Why Sonic 4 Sucks

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[@megamax6004]

The game doesn’t even feel like it’s an official sonic game.

[@creeperYT9824]

It looks like a rip off

[@taxisalad]

It legit looks like the Robert Cop and Nightmare Feddy of Sonic games

[@user-jx6gv9pp4s]

Yeah

[@p.andytheface.475]

Wait, this is official?

[@user-jx6gv9pp4s]

@@p.andytheface.475 Very hard to believe

[@Darksuperchaossonic]

Sonic 1, 2 and 3 have ceiling running. Sonic 4 has ceiling walking, and occasionally ceiling standing.

[@Shadic6098]

Master of Bad Puns [Rai] Hell, ceiling standing can't even be called an new feature because Sonic 06 claimed that feature 4 years ahead of time.

[@Unethical.Dodgson]

I think Sonic 06 claimed a lot of amazing features ahead of time. That game was the most feature complete sonic game. /joke

[@whiz8569]

+Cao Cao Like rolling on a ball. I'm glad they bought that back.

[@loadedsnail1936]

Master of Bad Puns [Rai] and sonic 5 will have full on celling standing.

[@DCNRS90YT]

Master of Bad Puns [Rai] Ceiling standing sounds impossible.

[@sanicsanic6890]

"Maybe when Sonic Mania sells 15 billion copies, they'll let the mania team remaster sonic 3 and package them in a collection and release it on steam or something." aged like fine wine lol Edit: OH MY GOD HAVE YOU PEOPLE EVER HEARD OF SARCASM!?!?

[@Tobunari]

Yeah, but at the cost for the music - apparently not even Loremaster Cybershell could secure the music - no retainer, no car battery. Also - Sonic Origins is still bad.

[@sanicsanic6890]

@@Tobunari I know this comment wasn’t supposed to be taken seriously

[@Tobunari]

@@sanicsanic6890 Well you're not the only one saying it.

[@sanicsanic6890]

@@Tobunari oh

[@pikachufrankie]

Aged like milk. The origins remake of Sonic 3 was bad.

[@wildberrysherbert3803]

One thing to make you feel better about this: episode 1 was not meant to be Sonic 4, it was originally going to be a mobile exclusive titled Sonic the Portable, which you can tell by looking at the background in Casino Street Zone. But Sega being Sega just changed the name and made it available for consoles for the sake of boosting sales.

[@superdean9966]

F you SEGA!

[@OmeleaffeGaming]

Sega should've made it stay mobile exclusive

[@wildberrysherbert3803]

@@OmeleaffeGaming absolutely

[@thejedisonic67]

decisions like that and the failure of sonic boom showed they learned none of the actual reasons why 06 failed, or in the formers case how they were cheapening the image of the brand without a shred of thought as to why without going to the dumbest scapegoats like humans existing, or sonic having a lot of friends

[@SmashyGuySRB2]

what bit of the Casino Street zone background tells about Sonic 4 was supposed to be a mobile exclusive

[@shakenbake7777]

I didn't know sega made flash games

[@75JUNAKI]

despacito play country roads Me too

[@Thomas_Studios]

Holy shit you fucking killed Sega

[@gusmichalinos7993]

I though this was on cool math games

[@rollnut4175]

Lol

[@MTH-Productions]

That would make a lot of sense

[@sthgamer_]

Look, Sega literally said Sonic 4 sucks because in the Sonic Mania elevator thing, it went from 3, K, then Mania. They just pretended it doesn't exist.

[@xx_th3_h0ly_sh1t_xx5]

Yep

[@XErox7X]

That was not saga, that was the person who made the animation. The people that run sage in Japan/Use, are retards. Sonic 4 sucks.

[@sthgamer_]

@@XErox7X Well, don't you think it's good they didn't include it?

[@drsnuff6881]

It doesn’t even have CD

[@sthgamer_]

@@drsnuff6881 damn you're right

[@genarftheunfuni5227]

My theory is that Sonic 4 was NOT intended to be Sonic 4, just a mobile game to have fun for a while and then forget about it (Sonic 4 ironically enough is better on Mobile than on consoles imo). But some degenerate decided to go "Hey Dimps, why don't you put this goofy game on consoles and advertise it as the 4th entry in the classic Sonic series?" and that's where everything went downhill.

[@joeser6666]

that's not a theory, that's the truth

[@hayato1886]

Considering the fact that in the background of the casino stage you can see an asset they didn't change that says Sonic the Portable, yeah. It was supposed to be a phone game that they ported to console for some reason

[@RustyMew]

Weird choice for them to dip Sonic’s model in Vaseline for this game, but, eh…

[@shahtayyib]

This literally looks like it runs on Adobe flash

[@daviepearie1092]

I mean when you get the game you have to use a launcher to play it on pc 😬

[@k-leb4671]

@@daviepearie1092 But a lot of PC games use a launcher. What are you trying to imply?

[@Starpotion]

That's an insult to Adobe flash tbh

[@NvanRoblox]

@@Starpotion He said that because it was made by sega so they could make this look better

[@merkquavious2]

@@daviepearie1092 what

[@VaerosTrash]

Fun Fact: Sonic 4's boss track was originally to appear in Sonic 3D blast, but Jon Burton (Sonic 3D Blast's game designer) claimed it was so fucking bad that was removed from the game very early on.

[@Zakoxd.]

Well technically it wasn't removed it just goes unused but yeah you're right I don't understand why dimps chose this shit out of all the boss tracks available They couldn't even make their own

[@deadturret4049]

The ost of this game is honestly beyond baffling. This is the same studio that made Sonic Rush, a game that is practically held together by its awesome soundtrack.

[@JmKrokY]

Uh

[@thesmilingman7576]

Well at least he didn't add it in the director's cut

[@elliotmidgley]

Bruh

[@InkyBoiArts]

The only good thing about Sonic 4 Ep 1 was when they ported it to Kindle, and Sonic had a unique waiting animation that wasn’t him tapping his foot, but jamming out to what looks like a smartphone, or at the least some sort of mp4/ music player. Sonic should get more unique idle animations, like in Frontiers

[@tubaraofluente]

what is the idle animation in Frontiers? I don't remember

[@InkyBoiArts]

@@tubaraofluente in Fronteirs, it changes depending on where you are in the story At the beginning, it’s a typical Sonic idle In the middle when he’s getting corrupted, he looks tired, and near the end, he’s practically on his knees, barely able to stand, but after the game, it returns to normal. I can’t remember the other characters idle animations though

[@Joshuatheidiot]

​@@InkyBoiArts That was a really cool detail lol

[@macrozs]

Episode 2 was my first ever sonic game, so it has a special place in my heart, but replaying it i could see how "less good" the game actuallly is. I mean it's fun (different from episode 1) and has some bang themes like the metal sonic one, and some cool original boss fights. So with all the flaws show'd in this video i give this game a 6/10 (5+1 point for nostalgia)

[@superdean9966]

Found the CHAD

[@SomeGuy-mg6gf]

same

[@badpiggyboi3093]

Sylvania castle act 4 theme was my childhood.

[@vriska222]

Every asset looks like it came from a completely different game.

[@randomanimation2624]

I like your jojo icon

[@goroakechi2216]

Because it was supposed to be mobile game

[@vriska222]

@@goroakechi2216 that doesnt excuse it

[@goroakechi2216]

@@vriska222 but I still hate sonic 4 Wait it makes sense Alot of game series the four games have to be bad Look at halo 4 Or black ops 4

[@Serek_Studios]

@@goroakechi2216 everything after halo 3 was trash

[@pantelisfilippidis5179]

Shame that sonic 4 fans cant play their favourite game now that flash is down

[@anscr-hdfan4739]

absolutely destroyed

[@orlandofurioso7329]

Laughs in JavaScript

[@anscr-hdfan4739]

@@orlandofurioso7329 you can play flash games using javascript?

[@orlandofurioso7329]

@@anscr-hdfan4739 shit i just got whooshed, never writing comments at 2 AM

[@celesterossi733]

You can play it on mobile

[@IMATIRE]

the fact sonic 4 has defenders makes laught so hard

[@Yeenuwu]

Looks like a cereal box flash game from 1999.

[@Joshuatheidiot]

That's not fair... Cereal box flash games have the excuse of being old.

[@TheTacoManMaster]

God damn absolute violation

[@steventechno]

"If this is Sonic 4, Why are we *regressing* in features? The Sims 4:

[@xx_th3_h0ly_sh1t_xx5]

Don't worry you can get the features back in paid DLC! Just like Sims 4...

[@steventechno]

@@xx_th3_h0ly_sh1t_xx5 Isn't that the truth...

[@xx_th3_h0ly_sh1t_xx5]

@@steventechno Y-Yeah...

[@ZoZo-fh6tq]

@@xx_th3_h0ly_sh1t_xx5 what dlc ?

[@rjante2236]

Oh, like Sword and Shield?

[@Krostian17Chile]

"I can't respect a man who has no problem with the physics in Sonic 4" This guy spittin' facts

[@hanezutchins2786]

I like how Jim used "virgin" as an insult. News Flash Jim, some people will go their entire lives without feeling sexual attraction to anyone

[@milkman2810]

@@hanezutchins2786 news flash moron, it’s a joke.

[@smashmouthegg570]

@@milkman2810 Some people stupid as fuck lmao.

[@milkman2810]

@@smashmouthegg570 you know what, true

[@deszalt4492]

Lol, glad Jim has moved past saying dumb edgy junk like this. It would seem hypocritical now haha.

[@SkewerKing]

"I wasn't even that harsh to the game, all I did was call it a pile of shit." -Cybershell, 2017

[@beegsoder]

This game makes 06 look like GOTY.

[@darghamo7467]

I'm sure you didn't play 06

[@beegsoder]

@@darghamo7467 I did.

[@shiny8454]

​@@darghamo746706's graphics are better, but it's just way buggier and has bad story choices (kind of like Elise, a human character, kissing sonic, the hedgehog, on the fucking lips)

[@PeruvianPotato]

​@@shiny8454I mean at least 4 had a more consistent art style and didn't suffer from being an uncanny mid 2000s game with blurry textures and models that just look... off.

[@S4nche]

I’m glad the “sonic 4 defense force” made cybershell do this video, cause he would’ve gone into hibernation and this video would never exist

[@Paccyd33]

Cyan Dave some people who actually like this game

[@hyperthethiccboi8698]

@@Paccyd33 or as i Like to call them morons who have no taste in games and just think they are good because it has good graphics that's it

[@legitknight30]

@@chorte Good graphics is not what I would use to describe Sonic 4.

[@maverickagao]

Looks like were on the good timeline, the legend is back

[@legitknight30]

@@maverickagao When J.R.R Tolkien wrote Return of the King this is what he meant.

[@comedicidiot]

"No series that released with an episode one only planned to have 2 episodes." *cries in Half-Life*

[@comedicidiot]

@@flordelizhawk358 What?

[@comedicidiot]

@@flordelizhawk358 Yeah, that kinda the point of the "cries in Half-Life"

[@comedicidiot]

@@flordelizhawk358 I can see how that mix up could happen. Sorry for the confusion.

[@fishingrod2253]

ironically enough sonic 4 was gonna get a episode 3 too the god damn irony

[@basilplushie2534]

Hey half life Alex exist

[@moodydoesstuff8198]

POV: you’re checking The comments to see if anyone said the game is good

[@cacovonluca]

We're two lol

[@MagikLeo]

@@cacovonluca Well we're three

[@GuidoLikesBread]

Lol thats true

[@Gear07]

Lmao

[@mr.tylerthunder2996]

lol

[@YegoKroeten]

I think the issue with the animations is that they're TOO fluid to convey speed. you can see sonics legs move at like 60fps and it just feels like he's dragging them. If they cut some frames out of the animation down to the keyframes, it could MAYBE animate well, but you can't save that model.

[@Unremarkable6969]

Game Journalists who say Sonic have too many friends are jealous because they have none.

[@weeeeee713]

true lol

[@ToyFreddyGaming1987]

Mr. Edgelord spitting facts

[@ILikeSoda229]

Haha

[@eggrobo]

LMAO

[@jamiegioca9448]

YOOOOOO, GET THEIR ASSES

[@Shirtgama]

Lmfao someone said "everyone likes sonic 4". They would've made that 3rd episode already if everyone liked it.

[@furiousstudios4438]

STOP IT, THEY’RE ALREADY DEEEEEAAAAD!

[@marlosuper]

some wacky people may think mania is sonic 4 episode 3 i mean there's a mod that labels it as such

[@Shirtgama]

@John Stonik allegedly there was plan to make a third one as said in the video but it was cancelled due to the unpopularity of the first two parts and felt they should just give up on the whole sonic 4 idea in general

[@hoodedman6579]

There are games that are very well-liked but did poorly financially, so they wouldn't get a sequel, such as Pyschonauts; Sonic 4 is obviously not an example of that.

[@Shirtgama]

@@hoodedman6579 episode two is an example then

[@thedman1754]

Adressing fans who say "Dimps made rush and advance" Just because you make 2 good game series, does not mean everything you make is a masterpeice. its like a chef making 2 Amazing steaks, then taking a shit on the plate for the third and everyone loves it because the last 2 were amazing.

[@Lexkiz]

Straight fucking facts

[@Persac7]

They are only good at Gameboy games They should stick to it

[@thedman1754]

@@Persac7 Rush wasn't on gameboy though

[@saaaiiiko]

Reading this while glancing at your profile picture just makes me laugh for no fucking reason

[@thedman1754]

@@saaaiiiko glad I could make you laugh dude

[@JSins_]

The “Sonic 4 Defense Force” is literally just a bunch of 10yo kids typing swear words into the comment box.

[@monkie7185]

I actually thought this was a bad fangame for so long oh my god

[@gneu1527]

Don't say to this guy that this is a sega game.

[@zalewa6220]

XD

[@doomxprie]

@@gneu1527 Hey, your from the Piggy Sucks vid!

[@PeruvianPotato]

@@doomxprie What?

[@doomxprie]

@@PeruvianPotato She was in a piggy sucks video

[@AC3electrosphere]

Being called a "confirmed virgin" by Jim Sterling of all people is fascinating to say the least.

[@bernkastel7438]

No offense but he looks like one

[@AC3electrosphere]

@@bernkastel7438 Yep, that's why I find it funny.

[@cattysplat]

@The Mutineers Considering it was Destructoid which all it had was edgy drama bait to flex on fanboys who had no way to respond outside of forum posts back then.

[@themanwiththebabyhands4650]

It's even funnier now that he's complaining that nobody is watching his videos or his shitty amateur wrestling crap.

[@Nilaikx]

@@bernkastel7438 He looks like a giant baby *not calling him immature, he literally does

[@AbruptAvalanche]

The worst part is that they had the gall to name it Sonic 4, as though this game stands shoulder to shoulder with the genesis trilogy. If they had called it "Sonic Mobile" or something, I think it would be less hated. You could more easily write it off for what it is - a low budget game for phones. It also sucks that now there can never be a proper Sonic 4 (something Mania probably could've been). They likely won't make a Sonic 5 either, as to not draw attention back to this pile of garbage. Sega ruined any potential for numbered Sonic games.

[@bloodykenshiro8218]

I'm surprised you got so much flak. I didn't even know Sonic 4 had defenders to begin with; an oddI surprise that was. In my head, Mania is Sonic 4, and even it has some issues, so the less said about this dunpster fire of a game that casually got the number, the better.

[@SchmergDergen]

Didn’t know this game had defenders.

[@goroakechi2216]

@@FlashbackGuyYT liar

[@goroakechi2216]

@@FlashbackGuyYT they don't exist Anymore than

[@JogG4DX]

1. They're retarded 2. They're just a little baby boy and they don't know any better

[@zennal2021]

Sonic boom show was decent, game sucked.

[@zaikage7727]

Fr

[@soupalex]

sonic 1, 2, 3: [gets hit] [throws rings up in an arc so the player can try to retrieve some of them] sonic 4: [gets hit] [throws rings down, through the floor]

[@user-jx6gv9pp4s]

This is true

[@TheReZisTLust]

@nihilistic_ jam sLoGaN

[@M_ZS19]

Bro im dying

[@YoshiLikesFate]

Its Sonic 8 bit all over again

[@YoshiLikesFate]

@Bluei there is a Sonic 1 and Sonic 2 8 bit versions. Try looking it up.

[@fe2k10]

The Sonic Advance trilogy was the real Sonic 4 for me.

[@Loopez_Gaming]

stop being too lenient on this game, it deserves way worse.

[@MarCelo-sf6xt]

3 years later and people are still mad about this video. True masterpiece Edit: My god this comment is nearly as old as the video was when I commented it. How the hell has it been 6 years

[@kieranstark7213]

These people were just jealous because they couldn’t make a valid video like Cybershell here! 😄

[@ZephyrUltimate_]

@@kieranstark7213 true subscriber energy right here 🥇

[@kieranstark7213]

I have over a hundred subs

[@funnigreenman8511]

Amazing this video is A true masterpeice

[@Raymanlegacy]

@@kieranstark7213 very true

[@daultimatenug453]

"the sonic 4 physics weren't that bad" i bet ya this guy loved 06's physics as well

[@user-ip7xe7hp5w]

Sonic 0’6 was actually pretty fun. Abusing all the glitches was the best lmao.

[@daultimatenug453]

@EggCraft @Jude Johnson I can agree this game was acutally fun when you abused the physics and did the craziest stuff, although some of the bugs didn't help out much

[@Squishito]

@Jude Johnson 06 didn't even _have_ physics, it was just like 4 pretty much but in 3D. It's worse actually. 06 is to the Adventure games what 4 is to the classics. 06 had no momentum, you couldn't even roll to build speed. You ran at the same set speed always no matter what, with a completely straight, stiff, momentum cutting air dash and an absolutely butchered spindash with zero functionality. Every loop or running segment had to lock you into basically a cutscene where you had zero input. This was because thanks to the state of the games physics, the characters were not capable of building momentum or accelerating past their hard speed cap normally.

[@daultimatenug453]

@Isaiah Zialo we all have opinions learn to respect them (i like 06)

[@Vadim-Z]

In all hindsight, I see why 06 was bad because glitches etc. As a kid, I never cared for the glitches and just abused them, but people are kinda assholes, they CAN not make a game look bad BY DOING GLITCHES INTENTIONALLY!!! The game glitches barely even happened either. But I could see what it was going for, personally the story was just beautiful, (Ignore the Sonic x Elise shit.) And I really like the Sonic 06 model, and the soundtrack, MMMMMMMM it's fucking awesome, I loved all the missions there was, shadow, sonic, and silver, all amazing in there own ways. I get some of the speed was off, but it felt natural for mach speed sonic. And just look at P-06 (Project-06) it made it all better, animations, some prefixes to physics and overal character expressiveness, and the the quality.

[@kajetanguss]

24:10 Like that's ever gonna happen. Right ?

[@waterbears9874]

The art style feels like if sega wanted to make sonic in a new super Mario bros style, but it’s just ever so slightly wrong

[@cumcockproductions6433]

The clownish boss music from episode 1 is actually an unused boss theme from sonic 3D blast. *I wonder why it was unused hmmmmmm HMMMMMMMM*

[@JordanISmith]

I think it sounds good..... when you place it as joke music .

[@cumcockproductions6433]

@@JordanISmith true

[@gabrielhenry7237]

Fun Fact:People called it Eggman’s Gay Circus when they didn’t know what it was

[@ohjoshua67]

That theme felt like something was going crazy in a circus… UGH.

[@_G.C]

@@gabrielhenry7237 Oh so like the big gay dance for dedede. Ytp's were something else

[@gooperrr6955]

Now lets listen to Sonic 4’s boss theme *Tik Tok ad plays*

[@MysteriousCowboyOfTheInternet]

Dang, the boss theme is so bad youtube thinks you'd rather watch a tik tok ad than hear it

[@M_ZS19]

@@MysteriousCowboyOfTheInternet I would.

[@nil8659]

@@MysteriousCowboyOfTheInternet I would

[@spookskeley]

Sonic 4 boss music is basically tiktoc dance thing where people would someone would dress up like a clown

[@barreldancer3505]

@@MysteriousCowboyOfTheInternet I would

[@mredbadger]

Someone at Sega has seen this

[@Lurdiak]

We now know that it was Sonic Team's horrible idea to turn what was planned to be a very low budget mobile Sonic game into "Sonic 4" for marketing reasons, so Dimps doesn't get as much of the blame for this awful game as they used to.

[@Kemuja]

"Sonic 4 Defense Force" sounds like a crappy Sonic Tower Defense fan game.

[@James-fs9ys]

Lol

[@user-jx6gv9pp4s]

Yes

[@benplus1503]

Made by Hummer Team in 1998.

[@secondperson5694]

Introducing 10,000 sonic 4 fans that'll ruin your comment section!

[@Mandalincoolboy]

@@benplus1503 somari 4 on snes

[@ja-vishaara]

Therapist: "Sonic walking gently up a vertical slope doesn't exist. He can't hurt you." Sonic 4:

[@luk_143]

Ahhhh! He exists!

[@oscar9680]

and there's people who defend this game. imagine that. true fucking lunatics

[@impartialknockback]

Sonic walking gently upside down is even worse

[@yourself1210]

Sonic frontiers:

[@TheTacoManMaster]

@@yourself1210don’t you dare compare sonic frontiers to sonic 4

[@ajflink]

I enjoyed Episode II of Sonic 4 because it was actually fun and did not feel like an early alpha or prototype like Episode I is. I see the potential behind this game if the team behind Sonic 4 was given more time to work on the game and more thorough testing was done. Does this excuse the final state and episodic nature of Sonic 4? No. To be honest, episodic games, unless you were Tell Tale, always seemed to end prematurely.

[@notunnamed2]

Yep. All of them except Telltales. But at the same time, Telltale ended prematurely so 💀💀

[@vansglitches1192]

Nah sonic literally walks at the speed of his running, he can walk on walls and cielings, sonic 4 turned him into spider man, the physics💀💀

[@djuv4375]

The difference between the bad of sonic 4 and sonic 06 is that sonics brokeness is actually fun.

[@eattheboard1684]

06 also had the basic coding aesthetics of Sonic games, Sonic 4 didn’t even have momentum or inertia, heck, Sonic could walk up walls as if he’s Spider-Man in this game.

[@diamondyoshi6649]

in which one?

[@georgiepig5726]

Yeah and sonics gem meter wasn't programmed correctly so he has unlimited gem powers

[@Man_Aslume]

That's why me and the unappreciated sonic game council have disowned sonic 4 and only kept 06

[@RiversLiver]

That's why I like Sonic 06.

[@tacoblude8208]

"Sonic 4 defense force"

[@drago3036]

Or, more accurately: "Sonic Forces me to defend this game"

[@traktor420]

Drago 303 at gun point

[@ViperAcidZX]

Please tell me that's a mod for Earth Defense Force 4.

[@cutman3931]

they can't prove that this game is objectively good

[@guilhermehey3736]

@@drago3036 Do you realize that you made a forces pun

[@thomasobrien1841]

A lot of this makes sense when you learn that this game was originally going to be a mobile spinoff with no association to the classics

[@lucariothehorrorguy5641]

This game has a higher metacritic score than Unleashed, Colors and Generations. Wtf

[@OfficialMilk]

Fun fact: a few weeks before release the ENTIRE GAME of episode 2 was leaked with the only difference being a “to be continued” screen after the credits. So the death egg not exploding was supposed to lead into an episode 3.

[@valletas]

Lol gotta love how a few weeks before release they decided "fuck this shit we arent making any episode 3"

[@zanmaru139]

I'm sure this was devastating to both of Sonic 4's fans.

[@theonetruefusion8533]

@@zanmaru139 you suck at wording

[@DonaldVale]

@@valletas oh same with Diddy Kong racing but way sadder

[@VincentVincent_89]

@@valletas lmao

[@anactualplant9574]

“They gave tails some sort of degenerative muscle disease” you are awesome dude

[@kjrayofficial]

Because they did!

[@menahemmenahem2924]

He gets tired after 7 botton presses

[@michellehuang1501]

Actually, he gets tired from your button presses.

[@M_ZS19]

@@michellehuang1501 thats what pisses me off

[@Xvladin]

Jim Sterling really went off the deep end

[@PeruvianPotato]

In more ways than one if you think about it.

[@sk00ks41]

This legit looks like a game in one of those banner ads on newgrounds or something with all those bootleg sonic flash games. But no, they sold it. For actual money.

[@dingledorf887]

Sk00ks glad i aint the only one

[@calvinismail9507]

true I used to play those at my grandmas house

[@Supersonicspyro]

Sk00ks then you need your eyes checked, because this does not look like a flash game

[@memessuce9016]

Supersonicspyro Will lol it looks it's fucking awful they fused all games, threw out all the good features and added more awful features because there we're not enough bad features and idiots like you still like and I don't even fucking know why

[@Supersonicspyro]

GameNiac lol, I don't think it looks awful, and people like you are the problem with the fanbase, forcing your opinion on others acting as if your opinion is almighty fact, this video is entirely subjective, there is absolutely no objective constructive evidence as to why they're bad, and he says people are retarded for liking it, this video made me lose brain cells over how retarded it was

[@dabluepittoo-aqua4213]

Funnily enough, the reason Episode 1's boss music wasn't used back in 3D Blast was because the main director didn't _like it,_ confirming that not even the staff likes the soundtrack of Sonic 4.

[@saltee3040]

But 3d blast was made by travellers tales and Sonic 4 was made by Dimps

[@eyeconqueror1185]

@@TheTomatoWatcher everyone makes mistakes

[@LonelySpaceDetective]

I thought it was the lead programmer who didn't like it, though. Or am I misremembering Jon/GameHut's video about Sonic 3D Blast facts?

[@SuperFreddy64-mp5ew]

BECAUSE SONIC 4 KILLED MY GRANDMA, OK?

[@DMHim299]

I searched up "cybershell sonic 4" and his mania video didn't pop up, what's going on? What is this!?

[@Squishito]

Just come back Cybershell, no ones even going to be mad, just come back and pretend like nothing happened. You said you were just going to get cigarettes but you've been gone a year, my Mum has been seeing other Sonic channels and I don't like them, I miss you Cybershell. Edit: Dad returned, I am sated. I will return to my slumber.

[@dreadfulroses]

until mania 2 is announced I dont think hes coming back

[@tuffcookie718]

make that two years

[@kaden6297]

Don't miss him he's shit

[@andreystudios589]

@@kaden6297 r/woosh

[@sucidalpikachu2478]

@@kaden6297 well his fans miss him so you don't have to be a ass about it.

[@somehelluvafanboy8357]

16:57 "Oil Ocean's looking a lot more like Sand Ocean right now"

[@Fi___]

Nice

[@folorbipple624]

when sonic said that sand hill line in forces I shut off the game and I still haven't booted it back up

[@Fi___]

@@folorbipple624 i just thought "sure sonic"

[@nanucinos2107]

i hate and love this comment

[@ObviousTrollFrom2007]

"Why?" -Sad Dunkey

[@moreedcola6837]

Now we have Sonic Superstars and Sonic Mania, Sonic 4 is now irrelevant and forgotten.

[@ImmSpiderman2428]

“At least it isn’t as bad as Sonic 06” They’re right. It’s even worse

[@gabrielsofta944]

Nah man you clearly haven't played 06. Obviously both games are bad, but at least you can beat Sonic 4 without encountering some bugs and glitches

[@xx_th3_h0ly_sh1t_xx5]

We did it boys, after years of bitching this vid has reached a million views I can now retire peacefully

[@marcosaurelio1953]

what are you doing here, i am wario

[@xx_th3_h0ly_sh1t_xx5]

@@marcosaurelio1953 Hello Wario

[@sluigi]

@Retro64 Hi hello shit! I'm dad.

[@LUKASISNOWONLINE]

I hate the attitude some "games journalists" have where we should just be happy with whatever garbage they give us, we deserve to have games we actually want to buy, they don't make them out of charity they're 80 bucks for fucks sake

[@Wilbyheh]

dont worry every 5 years or so we get a somewhat decent sonic game every 5 years or so

[@nman551]

*glares at forces*

[@dram3579]

I don’t really see this comment relating to this video

[@okarowarrior]

@@dram3579 you didnt even watched the video, then

[@satriosukarji1777]

@@dram3579 Did you not watch past 7 minutes? He pulls up a 2010 article when the game came out where a journalist does exactly that.

[@ThrackerZ0d]

i forgot how much Cybershell used to swear lol, but you can see it was a different time when he drops the R word out of nowhere, i do miss this time of youtube, but i'm glad it's gone nowdays, i wonder how he feels with this video now.

[@Andressennn909]

Plastic green hill zone

[@Golden-pm8sn]

"you can't even begin to comprehend my autism power level" Loved that line lol

[@lloydthehedgehogirving6049]

Me: *Are you challenging me?*

[@Mrneedlem0use2009]

Yeah I agree golden

[@luginess0]

22:29

[@asteria9963]

@Olivia 757 I don't, and I am autistic. Maybe grow a spine?

[@TheQuashingoftheTub]

@Olivia 757 I'm autistic myself, and I always feel seconhand embarrasment when someone gets mad at the mere _concept_ of even using the word autistic. It wasn't even in a negative connotation, dude.

[@WailingGecko]

Why does the game look like Walmart made the entire game

[@DiagonalTanooki]

@@Clover12469 shut up reddit

[@Clover12469]

@Nobody comments are not funny you troglodyte who said I was

[@Clover12469]

@@DiagonalTanooki I'm not reddit

[@burgerweegy5121]

@@Clover12469 ok what did u say and why did u delete it

[@burgerweegy5121]

@@DiagonalTanooki what did they say

[@stefanssmellsvictory105]

If Jim Sterling like this game, then that's evidence enough that this game is fucking horrible!

[@joewilliams-un8vu]

I don’t get why people try to defend Sonic 4 just because it was their childhood. Sonic 4 Episode 2 was one of the first games I ever played and I still think it is fairly mediocre.

[@seldomstudios6351]

sonic: what's this Fanbase: a well thought out and organised LIST OF COMPLAINTS!

[@scarlysix5034]

My stuff is never well thought out and organised, im a simple guy who likes Touhou, Pokemon, Zelda, Kirby, Megaman X, and a little bit of Sonic from time to time...

[@ATerriblePlayer]

Seldom Studios Nice Spongebob Reference

[@NeoGraena]

Seldom Studios the sonic fanbase is: "HERES MY ORIGINAL CHARACTER!!!!"

[@kieranstark7213]

Touhou, Pokemon, Zelda, Kirby, MegaMan X and Classic Sonic the Hedgehog FTW!!!! Come at me, Sonic 4 Defense Squad!!!!!!

[@brazencoronet17]

@@kieranstark7213 Sonic 4 episode 1 is a game with great replay value, and is fun time to time. the level design is sound and the graphics aren't too terrible, though still pretty below avrerage. Even mania didsn't scrap it completely with the ziplines from act 2. Sonic 4 ep. 1 is a good game

[@mush4326]

I wonder why 4 wasn’t a number on the sonic mania elevator

[@liam4736]

Clearly sonic 4 episode 2 is a 2/10 because it's episode 2, and episode 1 is a 1/10 because it's episode 1, so we just need to wait until sonic 4 episode 10 for the series to become a masterpiece 😎

[@BradyToons]

“I wasn’t even that harsh to the game...I only called it a pile of shit”😂😂whenever I’m having a bad day, I watch this vid

[@TailzDMW]

Same

[@DonaldVale]

I would get a bad day watching this video

[@TailzDMW]

@@DonaldVale L

[@DonaldVale]

@@TailzDMW ??

[@TailzDMW]

@@DonaldVale Why would you get a bad day watching this vid it’s fucking hilarious 😭😭😂😂

[@TheWeeabooCrewGamers]

It looks like Vinesauce Joel typed in "cool sonic toolbars" in a windows destruction video and this is what he got

[@snicksandstones]

Mug moment

[@thechipmunk5794]

This Game Looks Like Something That Would Be In Scratch Or Even On KZbin Kids

[@champion_ofcloud-var]

scratch is too high of a bar, ive made and seen scratch games that i enjoyed more than this

[@wiiwheel523]

Rumor has it that the Sonic 4 Defense Force is still lurking in the shadows to this very day

[@jinglejangle1533]

Holly fuck i remember playing this on a retro games website and i thought it was a fan game

[@nil8659]

sonic fan-games aren't this shitty,you know

[@dalton5229]

I like how we have solid evidence now that a fan game literally has the potential to be better than anything Sonic Team has done in like 30 years.

[@ShallowHydra]

3:00 You... you monster. you left one ring.

[@seldomstudios6351]

time to RESTART THE WHOLE THING!!

[@forcedcomedy6271]

I'm not the only one who is bothered by that??? Oh yes!

[@yansami9903]

ShallowDepth Lmao.

[@charmyzard]

*W O K E*

[@Bendanna93]

It's a metaphor

[@luccman9311]

defenders: ITS A GOOD GAME WITH GOOD PHYSICS AND YOU'RE WRONG also sonic casually jogging upside down

[@Tiger21820]

I believe that depending on how many zones a Sonic game has and the length of each act, should decide how many acts a zone should have! Sonic the Hedgehog doesn't have that many zones in it, and the acts are somewhat short, so I think 3 acts are plenty for that game! Sonic 2 and Sonic 3 & Knuckles have many zones, (and in Sonic 3 & Knuckles' case, LONG ACTS) so 2 acts are good enough! While I would say that this game has few enough zones for 3 acts to be suitable, due to the reputation of this game, even 2 acts could be too many! 3 act zones balance out Sonic games that have fewer zones with shorter acts (though I'm not sure that this principal should apply to this one!)!

[@lossflight]

"And then they'll package all 3 games together and release it on Steam or something" cybershell predicts the future once more (one time being hydrocity in mania)

[@PhantomOfficial07]

Are you talking about the new collection or are they already on steam?

[@lossflight]

@@PhantomOfficial07 im talking about the new collection Origins, coming out next year

[@PhantomOfficial07]

@@lossflight damn

[@minecraftveteranyoda4476]

Well…

[@shocktun3s729]

Holy fucking shit

[@GrandDab]

Good job tearing apart Sonic 4 without mentioning the completely obvious gripe of Sonic being slightly right of the center of the screen at all times making it impossible to see enemies before you hit them. Only someone that truly hates a game can dig into it for over 20 minutes and not touch that.

[@notsolykely693]

GRAND BAG!?

[@Formula_Zero_EX]

Do you think that Sonic is *_right_* wing? (Proceeds to leave.)

[@XhsTro]

This is written excactly how Cybershell would say it lol

[@thatoneshortsonicartist]

Sonic 4 isn't trash, it's a landfill

[@_gherry]

e-waste

[@thepizzaman6310]

"If you like sonic 4, thats not fine, this is a personal attack on on anyone who likes this game"

[@flynndemeeuw]

How to get splash hill in generations -play green hill with splash hill music

[@froghatvampirate]

"You can't even begin to comprehend my autism power level."

[@ShadowKnight5204]

I can though

[@zebuez]

same

[@amazydaisy]

stop using autism as an insult 💗

[@heckno15yearsago]

amazydaisy No.

[@beyondhaircraze4418]

@@amazydaisy It's not really an insult lol

[@sunvinn]

Cybershell's videos have insane replay value, I've came here for a laugh like 4 or 5 times already.

[@Ollimus]

Agreed

[@jack-l1gma]

same, must be the 100th+ time i've seen this. man has a way with words😭

[@hannahfbr]

this game just looks like a tech demo for a mobile game back in 2011

[@ShmooZeroOmega]

"Sorry Tails, if this looks gay for the viewers." -First thing I thought of when I saw that roll combo move

[@Sneedboy]

This comment aged like wine

[@zebrapringlez3141]

OH MY GOD

[@M_ZS19]

tails gets trolled

[@Passinthememes]

If this looks happy*

[@M_ZS19]

@@Passinthememes same thing

[@MrCrossa]

Roses are red, violets are blue, 6:14

[@TheToastOnFire]

Lol

[@sheilapowell584]

Lol

[@TheKrensada]

*claps slowly with great intensity*

[@ImprovingMonk]

Lol

[@nbarrett1184]

Nice dude

[@joeyboi]

the vitriolic hatred presented in this video is how you know someone is a true fan of a game series. a masterpiece

[@carlsagan2607]

Him calling out that journalist like that was just priceless

[@blackwhole3389]

Back when cybershell wasnt sponsered by sega

[@TeamDoodleBlocks]

Seems like sonic shoes stick to everything... He should put on his *SOAP* shoes.

[@glowkirby]

*Ba Dum Tsst*

[@WoobinTheScrub]

23:45

[@dkcrypt9103]

SA2 pun

[@mikusmekss6394]

wow

[@Luna_nasar]

True

[@Slick_Tails]

Why does the special roll technique look like Sonic and Tails are 69'ing? And yeah, I played episode 1 and couldn't stand it. Utter trash. Thank the chilli gods for Mania.

[@d3-penguin954]

Why does that roll look like they’re 69'ing? Because it’s sonic 4

[@qwertyiuwg4uwtwthn]

LMAO

[@iancortescontreras6084]

Tails in 4 ep 2: me and Sonic did it and... it was great

[@cheezyweezzy]

Glad I wasn't the only one who thought this

[@hanezutchins2786]

Uggghhhh why would you give us that mental image! XD

[@homerhat420]

This video is a certified hood classic

[@Ryan-Petre]

This video has 2006 AVGN energy.

[@shiny8454]

Yeah, except its funny when AVGN swears. He yells out the most random shit he'd rather do than play the video game he's reviewing, and I love it. Cybershell only says like 5 swear words in this video and says them casually and calm, not to complain.

[@mozardthebest]

I used to like Sonic 4, but after a while you realize what it is. A claimed "sequel" to the Genesis games that -introduce no interesting fun mechanics that aren't forced gimmicks(super combo thing) -no new level themes or environments, there's not a good original idea in any of these games, everything is based of a past game -the fact that there's no originality is shitty on its own, but what really drives that point in is the fact that this game has nothing to stand on, nothing to make it any better than the gems of the Genesis, it takes all of their ideas and adds: -shitty, shallow level design full of bottomless pits and speed boosters(because the physics are so bad that's the only way to get speed) -physics that are a far cry from the Genesis games, as the sense of control and speed I once had are gone, and tries to replicate that with constant speed boosters, but it doesn't work -bosses that are either shameless copies(Ep 1) or drag on too long(Ep 2) -and music that tries to sound like the Genesis games, but forgot to be good and catchy Sonic 4 just pisses me off, the fact that they aren't very good games to begin with is one thing, but the fact that they advertise themselves as "sequels" to some of my favorite games ever, is salt on the wound. The game only tries to appeal to nostalgia, and once that wears off, you realize that the game is shit. An imposter that doesn't deserve to be mentioned as part of the classic games.

[@inwencja2009]

Thanks.

[@TheHomieLew]

It only takes a minute or two to read, and yet it's several times more competent in addressing the point than an almost 25-minute video.

[@austinreed7343]

mozardthebest Other games before Mania, even those that also used the modern designs and weren’t advertised as follow ups to the originals, were better at this!

[@charmyzard]

Exactly the points Cyber made.

[@elijahbradley704]

mozardthebest it is the same with me.