Why Spain (Still) Has Cities in Africa

[@KhAnubis]

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[@karlo125]

Make video about croatia geografy like you did with indonesia and egypt

[@rangerrilles5572]

Oh wow its today!

[@A-HIS]

Spain always had cities in Africa. That is Spain since the early birth of the country in the late Middle Ages.

[@incogb6696]

@@A-HIS I love Morocco ☺️

[@jtsinspain]

Thank you for the very interesting etymological information regarding the placename "Ceuta"; fascinating! I should like to point out, above any confusion other commentaries may be in over "colonies" that Ceuta was/is not a colony - it was taken from the Moors in the course of the Reconquest, by Portugal, and came into Spanish hands following the accession of Philip II of Spain to the throne of Portugal in 1580; the question might be "why did it not return to Portugal in 1640 like other oversees dominions?", to which the clear answers would be that 1) it did not want to, preferring to be Spanish 2) that there was an intricate web of treaties between Portugal and Spain not to be jettisoned for the sake of an overseas territory that was nigh on unconquerable.

[@מ.מ-ה9ד]

0:14 Yes, Czechia would definitely be landlocked if that would happen.

[@Alkalus]

Can't be more landlocked than it already is.

[@מ.מ-ה9ד]

@@Alkalus Uzbekistan and Liechtenstein would argue that it definitely can be.

[@modmaker7617]

@@wonderbread7327 But Germany is temporarily giving Czechia it's ports.

[@quuaaarrrk8056]

@@wonderbread7327 So have a bunch of other countries (such as Austria, Hungary, Serbia), it's simply a silly small mistake

[@Zechariah_Mathieson1871]

​@@מ.מ-ה9ד And Uzbekistan as they are both the only "Doubly Landlocked" Nations on the World

[@jesusdavis2941]

In Spanish the term plazas de soberanía is not currently used for Ceuta & Melilla, it's used only for the outlying islands

[@geoffreycharles6330]

And what do you call them then?

[@CBZ-vk9bz]

@@geoffreycharles6330 Ciudades autónomas

[@mesaescritorio3290]

@@geoffreycharles6330 autonomous cities

[@casaroli]

@@incogb6696 no. That’s not what Spain calls them. It’s in the constitution: autonomous cities of Ceuta and Melilla.

[@Itisjustasaganow]

@@incogb6696 stop spreading some morrocan copium

[@geography_joe]

I’ve been to Ceuta on my way to Morocco, it was shocking to see how tall the border fences are. But ceuta itself was weirdly unremarkable, with the same architecture I’d expect from anywhere else in Spain. Its really quite interesting, plus there are more spanish flags in ceuta than I’d seen anywhere else

[@julianwitkowicz5339]

Yup, same here, I visited Mellija where I was crossing the border. City was simply...boring, but border, damn man. I felt like a criminal running away from Spanish law or smth

[@ixamisus]

my grandma is from ceuta!

[@incogb6696]

Ceuta has a major place in the Moroccan imaginary, because it hides an important symbolic for us. Many Spanish ignore it, but before the Portuguese took Ceuta, it was the 4th largest Moroccan city (after Fes, Marrakech and Meknes) and it was the largest Moroccan port. When the portuguese took it, the local population either fled to Tetouan / Fes or the rural neighboring area and the least lucky where enslaved and sent to Portugal. Having flags there does not erase it was ours, and the economic and symbolic meaning behind it. And yes we will fight, and yes the U.S. and France will back us.

[@ixamisus]

@@incogb6696 you really think they will fight the EU?

[@incogb6696]

@@ixamisus Who said the EU would back Spain? Spain is like a neglected child rn doing the most these past 2 weeks.. they just announced surrender of the Western Sahara .. we (Morocco) were backed by western powers; Spain is seen as not stable, and it’s leadership is truly not.. very much weirdos. Opps i said too much;)

[@lelsenpai]

Hi i`m from Ceuta. Ceuta is more spanish than granada because portugal conquer it after the end of the reconquista

[@markquintonii]

And that's the same reason Gibraltar is British!

[@et_falta_rambla]

@@markquintonii Gibraltar was centuries later than Ceuta.

[@markquintonii]

@@et_falta_rambla Morocco predates Spain as a country. However if we are only counting the time after a country freed itself from foreign occupation, than Spain has only been a country since the end of Napoleonic Wars and Britain has held Gibraltar longer than that. The fact of the matter is, is that as long as Spain holds on to Cueta and their other colonies, they lack a logical argument for regaining Gibraltar.

[@gonzalosanchezmartin3171]

@@markquintonii Do you realize that basically no one in Spain cares about Gibraltar being British, right? Sometimes someone says "¡Gibraltar Español!" as a joke, but no one is taking it seriously. There are no political parties in Spain claiming that Gibraltar should be Spanish

[@VictorLdVS]

@@gonzalosanchezmartin3171 Te tendría que importar más que los ingleses estén en Gibraltar de forma ilícita, pues controlan la puerta del Mediterráneo. España jamás cedió Gibraltar a Reino Unido, España solo le dió propiedades/puertos en Gibraltar y Reino Unido en su máxima desfachatez reclamó esos puertos como territorio inglés.

[@floppyearfriend]

Hey, I know I already pointed this out in a different video, but since my native language is Spanish I want to point out again that I really appreciate the efforts you make to pronounce foreign names correctly. Even if it's not 100% perfect it really does make your videos look better researched, and it makes your content much more enjoyable to watch. A lot of youtubers really mangle foreign pronunciations and it makes me wonder just how informed they are when they do things like mess up the Spanish soft G.

[@medicvolivill9325]

@Tasventi LP because of how many people don't make the least effort in pronunciation. Language is culture and its always appreciated that a foreginer tries to respect that.

[@miliba]

ikr! youtubers constantly mispronounce "croats" as "crotes"

[@ericburton5163]

@@medicvolivill9325 To me it's not a matter of trying or respect. It's ignorance. How he pronounced it in English is how most Americans would pronounce it phonetically if they had never had heard a native speaker pronounce. The reason why I say it's not a matter of respect is because to me it seems more like a way to try and make people feel dumb. And the reason why I say that is because I'm from a state in the US that has alot of weird pronounciations because the name started out Ojibwe, then French, then English and alot of the times the written word got stuck in the French version of the Ojibwe word. And people from places like Spain (or elsewhere) tell locals how they should pronounce the word! If you are against that, and think that the local version of the pronounciation should always be respected then I agree. It just seems to me like there are alot of double standards. Sorry for the rant, it just happened recently, so it was fresh and seeing these comments set me off because of the hypocracy! For all I know all of the people commenting this on this video and liking it wouldn't be the ones telling locals how to pronounce their own city just because they are American. But it definitely happens alot.

[@Георг-л5л]

Wht does anal dynamine mean?

[@omargerardolopez3294]

@@miliba scrotes lmao 💀

[@samwill7259]

"Straights of Gibraltar" is a way lamer name, wish we kept calling it "The Pillars of Hercules"

[@KhAnubis]

Tecnically the Pillars of Hercules actually refers to the lands either side of the strait (i.e. the Rock of Gibraltar and Jebel Musa in Morocco), not the waterway itself

[@samwill7259]

@@KhAnubis It is still an objectively cooler name.

[@scythal]

@@samwill7259 What about the "Channel of the Pillars" or the "Herculean Channel"?

[@samwill7259]

@@scythal Herculean Channel sounds dope but in order to keep things culturally neutral with a Christian nation in the "western" tradition on one side and an african islamic nation on the other "Channel of the Pillars" would be equally cool and more diplomatic.

[@juanausensi499]

@@samwill7259 Well, Hercules is neither Christian or Islamic, so I think it's pretty neutral.

[@Albanian_History]

The cities have been in Spanish control for longer than Morocco was a country Morocco have no claim at all😹

[@iliaselmaghrebi9114]

Morocco existed far longer then spain morocco is 2e oldest kingdom in the world After japan

[@jlm8098]

@@iliaselmaghrebi9114 not really, Ilias. Probably by the same measure you could say Spain history goes back to Visigoth and even Roman iberian peninsula. Which isn't really true.

[@iliaselmaghrebi9114]

@@jlm8098 i talk not about ancient time morocco was roman territory and also cartaghene and vandals i talk about the first morocco state established by sultan moulay idriss

[@jlm8098]

@@iliaselmaghrebi9114 I'm sorry but I don't agree. I reckon Morocco can find its origins in the Benimerin and Wattassid dinasties the same way we spanish can find ours in the kingdoms of Asturias and León. If you say Morocco exists since Idrisi I can say Spain exists since Visigoths

[@iliaselmaghrebi9114]

@@jlm8098 i disagree idris 1 is the first ruler to bring islam and unite all tribes under one king the moroccan culture started with him

[@beltrangarrote1982]

A Spaniard here. A "Colony" means: territory subject to foreign rule. The Protectorate was a colony, that's why it was decolonised. Ceuta and Melilla were Spain before Morocco was formed. They were never a colony. There is nothing to "give back" since it was never their's. The Canary Islands are another part of Spain in Africa also and nobody talks about it. I guess it's because they are an archipelago, hence no land border. There are more Countries with territories (not colonies) in more than 1 continent: Turkey, Russian, UK, France, Spain, USA, The Netherlands...

[@brandon1997XD]

@@incogb6696 what do you say if morocco did not exist until less than 100 years ago, morocco is a poor baby XD

[@incogb6696]

@@brandon1997XD i think u r mixing Morocco & spanish

[@jaimethespaniard]

@@incogb6696 Morocco was founded along with the Alawite dynasty unifying the country in 1666. Maghreb is not the same as Morocco, like Hispania is not the same as Spain.

[@incogb6696]

@@jaimethespaniard 🤣🤣 wallah Spanish education.. you guys are right on par with (the delusional) Black Americans..

[@incogb6696]

@Play Like a Boss ? stay on topic

[@miguellazarogil935]

You should have talked about "La marcha verde" which was a invasion of the Spanish Sahara in 1973. Morocco sent hundreds of thousands of civilians to walk into Spanish territory and Spain (with Franco severely ill and many conflicts with Sahara independentists) decided to leave all together. Some people say they tried to repeat that strat with Ceuta.

[@linkeychan1265]

How delusional you gonna be to say it was an invasion . then you should name reconquista an Invasion to Andulasia. The europeans are so ill that even when they left colonies they made sure they left them with border and cultral conflicts that we have to deal with till this day. and I hope Catalonia and Galcia get their independent soon those ppl are free to decide what they want.

[@jackal25301]

invasion ?? wtf are you talking about you colonized the land you settler and we drived you back period

[@mr_lemons6370]

La marcha verde was in 1975, but yeah. 1973 is the year of the foundation of the polisario front. Also worth to mention that it was backed by France and most notably the US and the CIA, contributing a lot to the general logistics of the marcha. The interest being to avoid a polisario front controlled by Algeria, then a soviet aligning country.

[@wheneggsdrop1701]

No, it wasn't it was a purely diplomatic and pressuring move to stop them from helping the Polisario Group. The Green march was announced and planned by the king while the border security withdrawal was not.

[@moeelma8788]

you mean taking back the land you stole by force in a peacefull way? seriously

[@rbb3686]

Western Sahara independentists are not trying to separate from Morocco. It is Morocco the one trying to seize Western Sahara against the referedemdum that should have had place after decolonization by Spain. This right to have a referendum is recognized by ONU.

[@VictorLdVS]

Morocco claims Ceuta and Melilla because they're spanish "colonies" but meanwhile Morroco invades the saharawi people because Morocco wants those natural resources in western Sahara. Yeah, I don't know who's more colonialist😐... 🇪🇦❤️🇪🇭 Oh, Morocco also conquered completely the Rif because before the colonization the Rif only accepted the Moroccan king as they're spiritual leader but in other terms the Rif was completely independent.

[@FULANODETAL]

@@VictorLdVS and Murdering about 10000 people in the "bullet years"

[@juanausensi499]

@@VictorLdVS Countries are as colonialist as others let them

[@VictorLdVS]

@@juanausensi499 well, we know who's Moroccos friend: France and the USA 🗿

[@freewal]

Hahaha good joke Spanish boys. Like the world don’t know what happened in Catalonia and Basque Country. And you are talking about referendum. Hahahahahz. Funny guys. Even one dared to talk about the Rif. Sure epsagouins like the French say. Keep dreamin. Spain has just officially supported Morrocco claims to its Sahara. A territory Moroccan before Spanish intervention in the Morocco Sahara on 1875. The Pacific Green March liberated those territories and traitors (collaborators) fled supported in their terrorist move by a terrorist state.

[@Leugim010]

“In their perspective it was a reconquest” well that’s literally what it was, the lands were not ruled by Muslims before they invaded the peninsula

[@juanangm95]

The land around Granada was Muslim for more than 7 centuries which is longer than it has been Christian for since then. Generations upon generations of Muslims were born, grew up, and died in Iberia and to say that they were foreign invaders when the land was invaded and Islamified centuries before them makes no sense. The Reconquista is an idea where the Christians who conquested the land from the Muslims are identified with the Christians that were conquered by them, but they're separated by hundreds of years and have very little in common culturally other than being Christians. So I and many other people don't agree that it's literally what it is, but rather an ideologically charged interpretation of history.

[@legrandboche712]

@Nithish When did the invaders hate the natives? And didn't something like that happen when Rome conquered Spain, or when Spain conquered America? Did such a thing like modern Spain even exist before the muslims, the visigoths and the romans?

[@rizkyadinata4076]

​​​@@juanangm95 Yet you forget that one of the biggest aspect of reconquista is also a matter of etnicity, moors and arab are literally invaders from north africa and before you mention the goth, the goth presence in ibera peninsula does not erase the fact that moors and arab are more or less are foreign as much as the goth. Anyway if the role were reserved,where muslim reconquer their land from christian and called it reconquest or liberation no one would try to argue with that.

[@josephberthier3360]

@@rizkyadinata4076 Lol. @Rizky Adinata By the time the castillians conquered Granada, the muslim populace of spain mostly consisted of native-born muslims (muladis), descended from indigeneous iberian population. The racial identities, whether you like it or not, usually tied to the religious aspect, i.e. every christian shall be called castillian, despite one might actually has mixed blood parentage, every muslim shall be called moors, despite, again, one might actually predominantly of indegenious iberian. And such concept is no foreign to the rest of the world. For example, assuming you are from Indonesia, similar concept also exist there. The Dutch colonials had outlined that the identity of 'natives' are tied to Islam. As consequence, non-middle eastern, non-indian, and non-native muslims (which means european and eastern asian muslims) are comsidered natives, despite there is no inch of actual native blood in their vein.

[@jonayz8655]

@@juanangm95 Go to Morocco then you will feel like at home

[@decostaacosta_]

The situation for Ceuta and Melilla has nothing to do with Gibraltar. Gibraltar was given to the British crown under a series of conditions which have been repeatedly ignored over the centuries, a population replacement and a grade of autonomy for Gibraltar which was never considered as possible.

[@Acorn-lodge]

At the end of the day all 3 are Ill gotten gains. All 3 are still modern day colonies. Please don't tell me you can seriously call out Gibraltar as a colony in one breath and not cueta and meililla? By the way I'm British and I'm admitting that I think Gibraltar is kind of a colony as I call it how I see it, but so are cueta and Melilla and I'm pretty sure any Moroccan would say the same thing to you that you say about the British but X 2

[@decostaacosta_]

@Samuel Hitch Ceuta and Melilla are not colonies, they are Spain like Madrid itself. I am not going to feed a debate which doesn't exist

[@Acorn-lodge]

@@decostaacosta_ thats the oldest trick in the book. What would you say if tomorrow the UK absorbed Gibraltar and declared it was another state within the United Kingdom? You wouldn't accept it. Well I not any morrocan accept your silly argument that those cities are anything but the remnants of the Spanish empire. Madrid isn't sitting on the coast of Morocco FFS 😂

[@decostaacosta_]

@@Acorn-lodge Man, you are the only one mentioning the Spanish empire. United Kingdom absorbed Gibraltar like 300 years ago, skipping the rules they accepted to follow. Ceuta and Melilla have been Spanish for more than 400 years. They were never Moroccan, they will never be. They were founded as Portuguese and Spanish cities respectively. Honestly, I am unable to see the correlation between their position on the map and a reason for a justified Moroccan colonisation.

[@Acorn-lodge]

@@decostaacosta_ exactly can't see correlation with Gibraltars position on a map and it being Spanish. I've stolen the below from a post on Quora as I too don't have the time to get into it. I guess we will have to agree to disagree. It makes nationalists (on both sides) feel good to rattle sabres and playing on perceived injustices is a great way of getting attention, especially in the run up to an election. Those who believe that Spain’s rights to Ceuta, for example, are stronger than the British claims to Gibraltar ought to check their history books. Ceuta was ceded to Spain by Portugal in 1668, under the Treaty of Lisbon, so has only been in possession of Ceuta for 45 years longer than the British have been in possession of Gibraltar. Likewise, those who claim that Spain have been in possession of Ceuta for longer than the Kingdom of Morocco existed are on equally thin ice: the current royal family of Morocco - the Alaouite dynasty - have been ruling the country since 1666 (only two years after Spain gained Ceuta from Portugal), with the interruptions since being colonial enterprises by powers including Spain, which is no fault of the Moroccans. Treaties can be rewritten and superseded but the crux of the matter is that the status quo always trumps the counterfactual. “What might have been” or indeed “what might in future be” might be very interesting but “how things actually are now” must always be the starting point for a process of examination. So, just as the British have a right to claim Gibraltar as “theirs” due to Treaties signed in the past, so does Spain have a right to claim Ceuta and (an even stronger claim to) Melilla. Worth noting that Morocco also claims territory that others believe is theirs - principally, Western Sahara, which Spain ceded in 1975, was immediately invaded and claimed by Morocco, in contradiction of the ICJ 1975 judgement that the Sarawi’s have the right to self determination. No one comes out of this well, frankly. These “possessions” are all a slightly uncomfortable vestige of colonial history. Lacking a clear solution to any of these problems of claim and counter claim, it’s perhaps worth reflecting that the process we usually fall back on for determining the outcome of such questions is democratic, understanding that the people who actually live in these places should probably be the ones to choose which country the land they live on “belongs to”, or if they want to be independent. As things stand: the people of Gibraltar clearly want Gibraltar to remain British. the people of Ceuta and Melilla clearly want their enclaves to remain Spanish. the people of Western Sahara almost certainly want Western Sahara to be independent. the goats on Perejil, Mogador etc almost certainly don’t care who rules but their owners have a clear preference for Morocco.

[@ProfessorPolitics]

Holy crap that ad transition was smoooooth. Hats off to you; incredibly clever to use the sponsorship to help make the point you were discussing.

[@Lucas.Blevins]

This is one of the best in-video ads I’ve ever seen. One of my favorite videos of yours too! Keep it up man

[@blackcid]

STILL???? Why USA has still cities in America? Why United Kingdom has still cities ein Great Britain?

[@_Viking]

Fun fact, the EU stretch over three continents: Europe, Africa and South America (French Guyana and several islands in the Caribbean) and three oceans: the Atlantic Ocean, the Mediterranean and the Indian Ocean (french islands outside Madagascar)

[@keywest5660]

And Pacific. Since Polynesia is a French dom tom

[@p_1945]

You're forget little french Island near newfoundland which in north America or you can argue Greenland which is Denmark autonomous area still be in north America and in EU too. (In case you count bounce of Caribbean are in south America)

[@_Viking]

@@p_1945 actually not. The French islands, st pierre and miquelon are french but not EU. The same for Greenland which is also not EU. There are also several other islands around the world which are European but not EU.

[@Javi-mi5pv]

@@_Viking they re France, so they are EU, they re just not Schengen Area for free movement. Dont say thanks.

[@mcp-78-92]

@@Javi-mi5pv Only nine territories located significantly far from the European continent shelf are formally and legally part of the EU, those recognised as "Outermost Regions" (OMRs). This includes the Canary Islands, Azores, Reunion, Guadeloupe, but does NOT include St Pierre et Miquelon (the French Islands in North America). St Pierre et Miquelon, like other territories such as New Caledonia, French Polynesia, Greenland, Aruba, etc... are called "Overseas Countries and Territories" (OCTs) and are formally and legally NOT part of the European Union. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_territories_of_members_of_the_European_Economic_Area

[@CordellBM]

I lived in Melilla! It's interesting to see Melilla & Ceuta getting some attention lately. One interesting thing in Melilla & I believe Ceuta too is they love their multiculturalism. They have a square of culture that shows the cooperation of the Spanish, Indians, Jews & Moroccans. The people are extremely patriotic & are majority Spanish but they still value other cultures. Moroccans tend to hate Melilla & Ceuta from my experience in Morocco & with refugees in Melilla & some Spanish people on the mainland barely know they exist. Not all of course but it's like you wouldn't know every town in your country. That's how Spanish they are. One thing that can't be denied though is Morocco has no claim to them aside from the fact that they are close to Morocco. According to international law, the Moroccan claim is considered extremely weak.

[@carmenn5621]

Every spanish person knows about Ceuta and Melilla, what do you mean?😅

[@CordellBM]

@@carmenn5621 Not true 😂 Ask around if you're living in Spain. Most have heard something about them but until the last few years not so much. Before the recent tensions some people I asked on the mainland didn't even know they existed, especially people under 25. I've had entire groups of teenage students ask me where Melilla is, not one of them knowing it exists

[@carmenn5621]

@@CordellBM I'm spanish and have been living in Spain all my life. It's true that some young people can be uneducated, and their geography is not very good (not just regarding Ceuta and Melilla, but maybe even other provinces they haven't come across), but the people who dont know about Ceuta and Melilla are a very small minority, I've never come across someone who didn't know about them.

[@CordellBM]

@@carmenn5621 Really? That's very surprising as it is very different to my experience in my 15 years in Spain. I've spent a lot of time in both Catalonia & Galicia so possibly it's more common in those regions but I've definitely found it to be the case. Not just students though, adults also. Recently people are definitely hearing more about them but back 13 years ago when I moved from Melilla to Girona, people had no clue where Melilla was & had no clue that it was in Africa. They have been on tv more and more recently though.

[@carmenn5621]

@@CordellBM I mean there's obviously people fron the older generations, like my grandparents, who didn't have access to education outside of learning to read and write, so there's people who lack general knowledge, but that's the case in every other country, it's not a thing of whether Ceuta and Melilla are considered an important territory or not. Actually, and I can only talk about my experience being from a younger generation, in geography class the most basic thing we study is every spanish territory, it's so basic it's almost like the abcs, thats why its hard for me to believe that some people wouldn't know them, but maybe that was the case 13 years ago, I wouldn't know. Obviously there's uncultured people everywhere, but it doesnt reflect the majority of the spanish

[@Carlos-kq9ov]

Guam, Islas Marianas del Norte, Islas Vírgenes, Puerto Rico, Haway y Samoa, son colonias de su país, los EEUU, mientras que Ceuta y Melilla son ciudades autónomas, cuyos ciudadanos tienen los mismos derechos y deberes que el resto de los españoles. ¿Por qué los habitantes de esas colonias siguen siendo (aún) súbditos de los EEUU de Norteamérica.

[@cruzzigil]

The Whataboutism is going strong here. Just waiting until he he brings up Gibraltar lmao

[@Carlos-kq9ov]

@@cruzzigil No, no es "y tú más". Es "no metas tus narices donde no tienes derecho a hacerlo". Lo de Gibraltar queda para los británicos, que, al contrario que España con sus ciudades africanas, usurpan un territorio español en contra de la legalidad internacional y los tratados firmados con España. En cuanto a los gringos, solo decirles que tienen una excelente oportunidad de empezar dando ejemplo, abandonando las bases militares que tienen en suelo español. Hasta nunca, colonos.

[@Carlos-kq9ov]

@@cruzzigil In another way, you'd better go home or go to hell. It's just the same.

[@irondequoit2931]

@@Carlos-kq9ov Sin hacer mención a que en Gibraltar los británicos han expandido sus límites más allá de lo que establece el tratado de Utretch.

[@carlos_93]

@@irondequoit2931 cierto, se quedaron con el istmo nunca cedido, en el cual hicieron un aeropuerto y además que no han dejado de ganar terreno al mar. Se cedieron las aguas del puerto ¡pero el de la época! No el que vemos hoy día.

[@sirmrdoor]

9:20 "despite being good catholics, spain never pulled out of ceuta and melilla." oh, you

[@Jason-mz6dm]

Caught that too, what a brilliant quip 😂

[@jonayz8655]

Why so much hatred against catholics and spaniards? I wish protestants stuck the nose in their own affairs and left the rest of mankind alone. So much envy...

[@jellysplatter2039]

@@jonayz8655 how is it hatred? It was a harmless joke about Catholic traditional standards. Coming from a Catholic, lighten up

[@XX_MelobraacRedux]

@@jonayz8655 It’s funny that he also said something about “European colonialism”, yet it’s once again the Spanish Black Legend used to only demonize Spanish colonies, but not not English or French colonies (although he did bring up Gibraltar, but that’s moreso as like a troll statement that British people use when they call the Spanish hypocrites for wanting Gibraltar but refusing to give up Ceuta and Melilla, regardless of the fact that the British has way more islands across the world.

[@jonayz8655]

@@XX_MelobraacRedux Exactly, they always sustain very proudly the point of the alleged Spanish hipocrisy concerning Gibraltar, but they overlook the fact that no country, organization or supranational body in this planet questions that Ceuta and Melilla are integrant parts of Spain. Nonetheless, the UN have stated that Gibraltar is a colony and has told the UK to decolonized it a give it back to Spain. The UK constantly ignore these statements arguing that the "local population" (they are actually colonists implanted by the Brits) want to remain British. The truth is that they can do as they please because they have nukes and we don't.

[@soldwyn]

Just a few days ago I‘ve seen these on a map and i‘ve been wondering why these cities are there. Thanks for the video, it was really informative!

[@audiovideando1592]

Ceuta (Abyla) and Melilla (Rusadir) were Phoenician colonies since about 700 aC, and due to their position on the coast, their history is more intertwined with Spain than with the African interior.

[@moradbenazzouz7233]

what is that for an infantile argument ? Maybee you should left granada toledo sevilla, they got more in cammon with their islamic history, than with manchego eating people ? What aboute that ?

[@audiovideando1592]

@@moradbenazzouz7233 I know those 3 cities. Spent childhood years in Toledo and youth in Sevilla. Also been several times in Granada. So, like we say, go teach your grandma how to fry eggs.

[@audiovideando1592]

@@moradbenazzouz7233 Let me explain something to you: we don't think God's job is to tell you what to wear, what to eat and what to drink. We don't like those restrictions

[@moradbenazzouz7233]

@@audiovideando1592 you explained nothing, in terms of education and knowledge, your folk lost it when we left, maybee it will be better to be not so rassist.

[@audiovideando1592]

@@moradbenazzouz7233 I didn't say anything racist. Better save the accusation for real racists

[@Siopaoko]

How beautiful are those cities. Madre España el país de mí sueño. Love from the Philippines ♥️

[@garbancitolentejas486]

Filipinas is my dreams love...

[@Siopaoko]

@@garbancitolentejas486 you're always welcome here 🥰

[@garbancitolentejas486]

@@Siopaoko Gracias. Salamat

[@MiryaSosume]

Filipinas en mi opinión es el mejor país de asia

[@Therockfan30]

Spain is not your mother. You have no genetic, cultural, or linguistic ties to Spain.

[@kingleo7281]

Viva Cristo Rey! ✝️ Ariba Reino de España! 🇪🇸

[@magrebi5954]

🇲🇦🇲🇦🦁👑🦁🇲🇦🇲🇦

[@JstZeldablackie]

@@magrebi5954 🇲🇦= NAZIonalism

[@A-HIS]

Santiago, y cierra España

[@Desco51]

@@magrebi5954 Nazi.

[@pedrotiradoanillo644]

Dejad las drogas

[@Saiyan_Elite]

That was actually a really good video! Thank you.

[@FS-flash]

It is not so uncommon. Turkey also still have a small part of Europe with a big city (Istanbul/Constantinopel). Russia still has an exclave inbetween Germany and Poland, (Kaliningrad)

[@carolinegelgot1038]

Love this style of video, well done!

[@StefanMilo]

Man your getting good at Geolayers

[@revinhatol]

*Had the African Romance language (which went extinct during the Middle Ages) even survived to this day, Ceuta and Melilla would adopt that language as co-official with Spanish.*

[@OpinionesDeJACCsOpinions]

I mean African Romance is a catch-all as it wasn't one language or at least it might not have been.

[@carlitoselcremita7816]

@@OpinionesDeJACCsOpinions ofc its not.In fact africans could stablish countries of nowadays thanks to the languages that europeans left them bc there are toooo many ethnicities

[@incogb6696]

@@carlitoselcremita7816 what are you saying? lmao

[@carlitoselcremita7816]

@@incogb6696 african countries didnt exist back then and they couldnt understand each other bc their languages were too diferent(africa is a big continent with many cultures inside of it).So in that aspect the colonization was good for providing the native ppl a language that actually lets them form countries(unite those tribes/ethnicities under the same state)

[@3st3st77]

​@@carlitoselcremita7816 None of what you said had anything to do with the discussion. They are talking about the form of Latin spoken in northern Africa when the place was part of the Roman Empire.

[@gabrielhamrle2779]

0:14 Why is Czechia marked red?

[@KhAnubis]

Because it would be landlocked if the Strait of Gibraltar were to close

[@1224chrisng]

Probably has something to do with the Danube river

[@gabrielhamrle2779]

Well I'm Czech myself so I was supraised that he marked Czechia as nation with access to sea. Maybe it was an epic joke, because Czechia would be landlock country if Gibraltar didn't exist, because Czechia is already a landlock country. That would be hilarious.

[@artman12]

@@1224chrisng Nah, if it had to do with the Danube, then Austria, Slovakia, Hungary and Serbia would also have been marked red.

[@KhAnubis]

Y'all are overanalyzing this joke to a hilarious degree

[@2SNesbit]

Back in 1975... just after leaving the Peace Corps in West Africa... I visited Moracco and planned to travel through Spain and France to England. I took a bus to Ceuta from Fes, but it didn't actually go into Ceuta. The bus pulled over on the side of the main road where a dirt/gravel road intersected. The driver pointed down that road and said, "Ceuta". A few other people and I got our luggage from the bus and walked about 100 yards down the road where our passports were checked and we entered Ceuta. I don't remember much about it because I took the ferry to Algeciras in mainland Spain the next day. (Nice view of Gibraltar crossing over by the way...) At that time though, I don't remember any fences... just a dusty small border post.

[@agarrikr2996]

Nice for you to visit.

[@agustinrodriguez-vu2gd]

Ceuta y Melilla son españolas antes de que existiera el estado marroquí como tal. En el Rif sólo había cabillas que no sé sometían al sultán, qué quedé claro de una vez .🇪🇦💪❤️

[@mulanho2993]

the Riffian people are from Morrocco?

[@islamzarrouk]

@@mulanho2993 yes of course

[@dracul3691]

Thats true

[@mulanho2993]

@@dracul3691 True lmao

[@layz007]

lo tomaste a la fuerza

[@tobirates916]

Very interesting! I’d never heard of these cities, or their exclave status. Video looks and sounds smashing. Keep up the good work, and good to see you traveling again!

[@incogb6696]

"The mule women of Melilla on the border of Spain and Morocco Documentary " on KZbin

[@fedeLibre]

Ceuta y Melilla son dos ciudades españolas, pertenecientes a España desde dos y tres siglos antes del nacimiento de USA. ¡Hay que estudiar historia!

[@fedeLibre]

@Mocrovich 🇲🇦 Por tu propio bien: estudia historia y de paso entérate que Marruecos y en concreto la familia real produce, exporta y se beneficia del comercio drogadictor de hachís en el mundo. Por cierto, si estudias historia o filosofía, no te drogues con hachis, sino seguirás creyendo las mismas mentiras que te cuentan tus líderes políticos y religiosos.

[@zeinebledou3931]

Spain in africa😂😂😂 hour claims are historically not accurate.

[@Alevuss92]

I know you tried to get the pronunciation - like you always do - but most locals in Ceuta would pronounce it ['seu.ta]. Ceuta is one of the few parts of Spain that has seseo, where /s/, /z/ and /c/ are pronounced as [s]. That said, in media interviews with the locals and in universities, you'll mostly hear ['θeu.ta] since pronouncing /c/ and /z/ as [θ] has more prestige. Cruz Ortiz, R. (2020). Seseo, ceceo y distinción de /s/ y /θ/: el caso de los políticos andaluces en Madrid. Fernández García, A. (2015). Repensar las fronteras lingüísticas del territorio español: Melilla, entre mosaico sociológico y paradigma lingüístico. Knoerrich, S. (2012). When Spain meets Morocco: discourses, language choices and linguistic policy in Ceuta and Melilla. Sayahi, L. (2011). Spanish in Contact with Arabic. Tilmatine, M. (2009). Ceuta y Melilla: elementos para una aproximación sociolingüística.

[@floppyearfriend]

Oh that's fascinating. Is the dialect in Ceuta/Melilla similar to the one in Andalusia besides the seseo?

[@jesusdavis2941]

There's a Spanish CNN anchor from Melilla, I've heard him mix both forms. Your explanation makes total sense on why he does that 👍🏽

[@incogb6696]

Bcs it’s Moroccan 💀..

[@zorrolimonero]

@@incogb6696 Pero si son parte de españa... 🤣

[@moeelma8788]

Its pronounced Sebta in arabic by the people who founded the city and you stole the land and changed the pronounciation... not chhhhhrouta lol

[@weapon9891]

You make excellent content my friend, keep it up!

[@jdgomez775]

If you think the Spanish are petty about holding to old colonial claims, the French are masters of that. Technically, France has borders in North and South America.

[@MiryaSosume]

UK and USA too

[@ismaelguzman8256]

Ceuta and Melilla aren't colonial claims

[@jdgomez775]

@@ismaelguzman8256 Cope

[@jdgomez775]

@@MiryaSosume UK tries and the US claims are mostly bases, not enclaves.

[@ismaelguzman8256]

@@jdgomez775 xd

[@dennisrosso5491]

Bro, don't tell the Americans that we still have cities in other continents or they'll come and "free" them like Cuba and Philippines.

[@vates4163]

Maine || visiting Ceuta and Melilla

[@JK-gu3tl]

Spain is the only country in the world to decline after hitting it big.

[@ermengolfreixes1526]

@@incogb6696 ok we give morroco ceuta and melilla but western sahara must become an independent country.

[@JK-gu3tl]

@@NoWoke-JustWake as soon as they hit gold, they're in decline.

[@jaimethespaniard]

@@JK-gu3tl As soon as they hit gold? It has been longest lasting global empire, over 300 years.

[@Dimitrishuter]

Congrats on the paradox collab! wasn't expecting that

[@wzupppp]

Canary islands are geographically part of Africa too and were originally inhabited by North African tribes

[@David_-_-_-_C]

North African tribes more related to present day spaniards than to arab invaders. We the spaniards are constantly accused of invading America, but it seems nobody remembers that lots of cultures were destroyed by the religion of peace and love. For example, the old egyptian culture.

[@wzupppp]

@@David_-_-_-_C First of all, the original canarians were Berbers from Morocco. Yes, berbers mixed with spaniards during islamic period but youre still overwhelmingly european, genetically and culturally. Secondly, the arabs were the ones who brought civilization to your country. Spain was insignificant before that time. Dont forget that berbers and arab are both semitic people, so berbers are more related to arabs than to spaniards. Main berber y-dna is e1b1b which they share with other north african and middle eastern people.

[@David_-_-_-_C]

@@wzupppp Do you know the aqueduct of Segovia? It was constructed by the Romans. Spain was very important to Rome. The first non italian people who were given Roman Citizenship were from Spain, specifically from Cádiz (Gades). Even nowadays you can see some seats on the Colisseum were reserved for the Gades nobility. Check it and correct me if I'm wrong. Two of the most loved roman emperors were of hispanic origin (probably romans mixed with local nobility). Séneca is a well known philosopher coming from Hispania. Insignificant Spain? It never was, it is not and it will never be. Deal with it. What can you say about your country in that time? You herded goats? And what's more important, what are your countries today? People only want to visit Egypt and only because of the Pyramids, constructed by non arab non muslim people.

[@mulanho2993]

@@David_-_-_-_C the maternal line is still 70% native, the land needs to be repopulated by the Amazigh, as we know which areas they came from.

[@mulanho2993]

@@David_-_-_-_C btw i am from china and a big fan of morrocco❤

[@kingrafboss]

First time I see a foreigner so well informed about this topic. Good job.

[@cyganeekk]

Love your videos!👍

[@EnriqueScottish]

Title saying “Still” leads to serious confusion. Ceuta & Melilla + other enclaves have been Spanish for many centuries now. Morroco wasn’t even formed.

[@ziyadrgb9584]

What he said that marined was morroco and Spain stol it

[@shadowtoad95]

Essentially, this makes Spain one of the few cross-continental countries in the world.

[@LuisGonzalez-dh6ue]

There are thousands of people trying to go over the fence from Marroco to Spain. But there is none that go from Spain to moroco. Free Sahara 🇪🇭

[@specialone3209]

Free Catalonia and Basque

[@mulanho2993]

hi, from china, the Sahroui people are from Morrocco😂😂 the invaders are Spanish, Latina/o, Hassinya Bedouin (i think i spelled that right but those are Arabs from the Hilal Invasion) & some Sudanese nomads. can u explain why Spanish people continously harrass moroccans? This is what i learned from research. Thanks.

[@LuisGonzalez-dh6ue]

@@mulanho2993 For territory, because it are our weaker neighbors. Why China harass Vietnam, India, Japan, Taiwan, etc.?

[@mulanho2993]

@@LuisGonzalez-dh6ue I don’t agree with my government, thats why I ask why so many Spanish do this to Marrooco.!

[@mulanho2993]

@@LuisGonzalez-dh6ue Because I think you will not be who you are today with Morroccan people…and I know this cost an African country a lot of money and their livelyhood, so it’s weird to me you will comtinue down wrong path. Most Asian countries support Morrocco for its territorial integrity Stop study their mummies!(•_•)=Ε/̵͇̿̿/'̿'̿ ̿

[@jannetteberends8730]

Great video. I’ve been through Ceuta in 1981, lovely town. And very Spanish indeed.

[@incogb6696]

Just like Canary is Spanish or how Angola is French

[@numedecanal1]

Half right

[@incogb6696]

@@numedecanal1

[@leatherandtactel]

@@incogb6696 Canary Islands are not part os Spain?

[@incogb6696]

@@leatherandtactel They are litterally in Africa and Spain moved in a new population in 14000s and genocided the Amazigh.

[@jorgyjojo3581]

Well, there are some inaccuracies in the video. Gali is not just the leader of a group seeking independence. He is the president of the Government of Western Sahara which a country that is almost fully invaded by Morocco and most of the saharawis are refugees in Algeria nowadays. Morocco has invaded the Western Sahara and kicked out the original population

[@thomasvanhiel6105]

Liar thats not true you just said this because you mad at morocco who claims their territory cueta and melila canary islands

[@zeinebledou3931]

Go learn history there is no western sahara we have very old documents that proves Moroccan land all allong. Polisario are terrorist gang funded by Algeria. By allah you will never see the Atlantic sea.

[@exiledbluemaxonian]

Interesting video about Ceuta and Melilla, my mum's older brother did his military service in these cities in the late 50's. Would loved to have asked him loads of questions about his time in North Africa. My dad was lucky and ended up in Jaca in the Pyrenees.

[@TitoEdwards]

The question isn't why Spain (Still) Has Cities in Africa, the question should be, why did the Spanish nations stop the reconquista at the Straits of Gibraltar and not continue to liberate all the formerly Christian lands of North Africa from the Saracens.

[@danieltourinho2057]

we were too busy with the americas xd

[@bathamsteryt]

0:14 yes Czechia isn't landlocked already

[@star_reshiram]

I think he included navigable rivers that flowed south into the Mediterranean Though I don't know enough of Czech geography to know if there was one that went through it

[@mestizounsolo5545]

Spain have those lands in North Africa FOR THE LAST 500 years you know 🤔

[@rykson161]

Palestine has their lands for more than 500 years ! The racism is stinking

[@UltimatePro777]

Istanbul is located in Europe but Istanbul is a city of Turkey and isn't a colonie. Ceuta and Melilla are located in Africa but Ceuta and Melilla are spanish cities and aren't colonies.

[@veronw3850]

lol get some education or invest in a map

[@JoRdi-ul4xg]

@Umbrella Studio yeah but literally nobody fucking cares it fell hundreds of years ago, get over it

[@ilias2marr]

no its a colony .They want to revenge so they colonize us because we colonize the sud of spain for 7 centery

[@skyleonidas9270]

I am spanish and I approve this video, impressive, a good % of spaniards dont know as much as you do about this conflict

[@carlosmarxo8132]

Despite the first attempt in 1437 to conquer Tanger failed, the portuguese conquered Tangier in 1471. Before that, Arzila was conquered. Portugal also conquered Alcacer Ceguer in 1458, destroying a pirate fleet that was helped by the muslim king. Portugal also founded some forts like Mazagan and Agadir. Until 1578 the portuguese were more or less sucessful, and there was a chance that Portugal would manage to take over a part of what is today Moroco. But the defeat at the Battle of Alcacer Quibir destroyed that dream.

[@RhyliezthUniverse]

Just a point here Western sahara wasnt a colony indeed, yes at the first stages but later on were tottaly integrated and annexed, with full citizenship and as a regular province as any other part of spain. Western sahara became a province, in fact theres people here in spanish that are saharauis that still have the citizenship of course as well as their daescendants. We were one, my parents told me how sad was for a lot of people that not anymore, peninsulars and saharauis that even today consider itself or independent or spanish but not moroccan (since morocco invaded backed by france and cia and that region never been morocco) Ceuta in melilla in the other hand is spain before morocco existed (as morocco). Even if morocco says its colonized is just not true

[@incogb6696]

lmaooo those are terroristas🙂

[@gothicgolem2947]

@@incogb6696 and why do u say that?

[@kashiogos]

@@gothicgolem2947 Ignore him, this person has posted like 100 comments about the same things, ultra-nationalists aren't known for being friendly nor easy to have a kind debate with.

[@gothicgolem2947]

@@kashiogos eh i like to debate but yeah I can imagine

[@kashiogos]

@@gothicgolem2947 So do I honestly, but debating while the other person is seemingly mocking you or not being nice isn't pleasant.

[@Doggys-Stuff]

As A Moroccan, I Don’t Care. Spain Keep Your Land There If You Want. Just Don’t Invade Us.

[@TravelingisFREEDOM]

This seems to be a very interesting place, I hope I can visit sometime in the future. Seeing and sharing places like this is why I love traveling and make videos so much! And please keep up the great job! Subscribed!!

[@RangaTurk]

The Spanish protectorate in Morocco was quite large during World War Two as opposed to what the case is at present. So much so that a plane load of American paratroopers got detained there by Franco's forces during Operation Torch and were held until February 1943.

[@GillamtheGreatest]

ngl i really wish you would have marked all the little rocks and stuff on the map when you were talking about them. made me all curious

[@beltrangarrote1982]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plazas_de_soberan%C3%ADa

[@rajesh_love_isreal_women]

bautiful spanish citites love from algeria

[@cristianxd6683]

Ceuta and melilla is spain from 1415/1495

[@belopan190]

me as having a spanish father and a morrocan mother i appreciate this video cuz i heard a different story form two different sides and never the actual story

[@Zelea-nj3pz]

A country is not limited by a continent so unsure why you put ‘still’ between brackets. Those 2 cities are as Spanish as Almeria or Malaga.

[@emib6599]

In every place in the world there seems to exist a random piece of land populated by people that can define themselves europeans citizens 🇪🇺 and use the euro 💶.

[@oscarotero8418]

There is an error in the video, not only Ceuta and Melilla belong to Spain many centuries ago, but Morocco did not exist as such. On the other hand, it is the great difference with Gibraltar, which was a city conquered from present-day Spain, and therefore the UN considers it a colony, not like Ceuta and Melilla, which are recognized as Spanish cities by the UN.

[@hichamma2604]

Prepara tus meletas ya vamos a venir. Y te vamos a sacar al mar . Españolito

[@incogb6696]

morocco since 789 AD Oscar de Hìllbìlly

[@Olsjaz]

The Commentor called Gibraltar an overseas territory and colonies to Ceuta and Melilla. Yeap, he got to be a pirate! What an idiot!

[@incogb6696]

"The mule women of Melilla on the border of Spain and Morocco Documentary " on KZbin

[@onurbschrednei4569]

also ceuta and melilla are right next to spain (only 40 km), just a short ferryride away. Uk is on the other side of Europe to Gibraltar.

[@triancey]

Great job, thank you so much.

[@aymanla471]

ceuta was never moroccan the native people of the area are called Riffians an ethnic group different from moroccans in central morocco they look different and they speak a different language and they had a state from 1921 to 1926 called rif republic..ceuta was portuguese even before the foundation of the current moroccan state and in the 1600s spain got it and its still spanish so stop this europe bad africa good thing ..by some measures even morocco is colonizing the area alot of riffains dont want to be moroccans like the people in western sahara which is also colonized by morocco except the sahrawis fought very hard and still fight to this day thats why they control a large chunk of their land...

[@gregorytheblackkitten9422]

Where did you learn this . Ass cheeks of taboon ?

[@hamzaalami7358]

The most stupid comment. Portugal take the city from the Marinids who we're a Moroccan royal family in 14 and 15th century to stop there raids on Iberia. Go educate yourself

[@naamloos5535]

@@hamzaalami7358 don’t worry, Spaniards are trying to find anything to justify their colonization lol

[@quuaaarrrk8056]

@@naamloos5535 Nah, it's just that Ceuta and Melilla have been Spanish (or Portuguese) since before colonialism in the modern sense even existed.

[@naamloos5535]

@@quuaaarrrk8056 So? Just Beacause they Were colonized for so long doesn't mean they're spanish, spain=europe Ceuta and melilia= africa

[@raulmanuelsanchezcasado7756]

Comparing Gibraltar with ceuta and Melilla is kind of insane

[@carlesmassiaurko7761]

Es guiri

[@maxwhite6690]

How about catalonia and the basque countries which wanted out of Spain?

[@guershh]

​@@maxwhite6690 the basque country independence thing is now more of a meme than anything and the Catalonia situation was just political bullshit as most of the people in both sides wish to remain Spanish

[@maxwhite6690]

@guershh2957 let them have a referendum then, sorted, but your government won't.

[@hibameral2323.]

I think it is insane just to u , there is something wrong with u guys , mellila n ceuta , Canary Islands are moroccan either u accept it or not .

[@pantx0]

Venga Chaval! Buen videillo!

[@iuliuscaesar9078]

They were Spanish cities all before all those other countries exist, in fact the whole Rif was, spaniards have been living there for centuries and the Kingdom of Spain holds an efective control over those territories.

[@incogb6696]

That’s news to us and news to every historian to exist .

[@ColonelFluffles]

Could you elaborate how the Rif was Spanish? Especially since you said the whole Rif?

[@ilias2marr]

if u claim ceuta and melilia spanish when u conquered them ,then sevilla and malaga city are moroccans because we conquered sud of spain for 7 century

[@carolinaechevarriamellado7676]

The title of this video is misleading and manipulative. The question is not 'still'. Ceuta and Melilla (the two cities) were Spanish territory before Morocco existed and before 'old Morocco' (before its colonization). Ceuta, in fact, was formerly larger and occupied territory that is now Morocco. They were different civilizations and they were African Christians (in the two cities). We must also take into account that the people who live in the two cities don't want to be Moroccan and feel and are Spanish. Moreover, for me, this is proof that the African continent isn't to blame for its poverty, but its politicians. The misery of Morocco mustn't expand to developed, sovereign and legal territories, but development must continue to expand through African lands (the respective countries). Manipulating international information to support you in a warlike invasion is amazing and shows how little interest Morocco has in improving the living conditions of its population.

[@wewenang5167]

and this coming from spanish people....still with your colonial mentality xD. Before Morocco existed? That land belongs to Islamic Kingdom which is part of Al Maghreb region during the Ottoman empire. So both those cities belongs to African not spaniards doesn't matter what religion there were or are today lmao.

[@wewenang5167]

funny you said they are different civilization or they are African Christians when the largest population of North African Christians are actually in Egypt which is a Muslim country. Not to mention there are a lot of Christians and Jews still living in Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria and Libya today. As if you wanna say that being Christians is the same as being civilized or developed...lol so funny. Then tell me about all those Christians African Nation in other part of Sub Saharan Africa like Congo, Republic of Central Africa, Lesotho, Uganda, Rwanda, Ivory Coast, Ethiopia...ect are they developed? xD

[@thomasvanhiel6105]

Spain is a occupie land

[@aqeelahmad8808]

Thanks for this very important video.

[@robertflores7219]

I love this video. Very informative. Wish I knew this when I was in Morocco . Keep these videos coming.

[@ludwigramirez4711]

Ceuta y Melilla have been Spanish for centuries, long before Morroco even existed. They are Spanish cities, not colonies, unlike Gibraltar, which is a literal english colony on spanish soil.

[@Cecilia-ky3uw]

gibraltar is barely even a colony, it is just a tiny island

[@ApeX-pj4mq]

Gibraltar has been English for 400 Years, that’s not a colony. Just because one of the many different prior Spanish nations happened to own it at some point does not mean they own it now. There is very clearly a border and a population difference

[@ludwigramirez4711]

@@ApeX-pj4mq Gibraltar isn't english at all. It has been hispanic historically until you took shamesly and with no right. Spain has existed long before english came into Gibraltar, not our fault you don't know history and rather twist it for your convinience.

[@plus_2853]

@@ludwigramirez4711 good joke but Morocco is the 2nd oldest monarchy in the world longer than spain's these cities are in moroccan soil they belong to us clearly

[@Cecilia-ky3uw]

@@ApeX-pj4mq exactly

[@Fogaata]

Cool educational video!

[@benjaminprietop]

it's pretty much the same situation with the Falkland/Malvinas islands. Argentina strongly claims them and always will, but pretty much the entirety of the island's population is British and wishes to remain that way, so...

[@jackwhitehead5233]

The Falklands are not 'strongly claimed' by Argentina, the Falklands have existed longer than Argentina. You can tell how weak the Argentine claim is because Argentina constantly refuses to go to the ICJ, despite being invited to do so by the UK multiple times.

[@robban5545]

MALVINAS IS BRITISH IN 1837, CEUTA 1415. 420 YEARS BEFORE.

[@jackwhitehead5233]

@@robban5545 irrelevant

[@robban5545]

@@jackwhitehead5233 Melilla conquered 1497.

[@robban5545]

Ceuta y Melilla, they are more like the Channel Islands, which are closer to France than to England. Will England give the islands back to France?

[@thegrumpydragon7601]

I wanted to visit Melilla but it’s a pain in the ass. Visited Lisbon very hilly and as a fat American 🥲

[@JoRdi-ul4xg]

You should visit barcelona lol

[@thegrumpydragon7601]

@@JoRdi-ul4xg it was on the list But we chose Paris and Lisbon Mostly because our last vacation spot spoke Spanish & wanted something different

[@JohannesN91]

9:59 I don't think they jump to the "airplane" in Ceuta. They will take a ferry like you said in the beginning of the video. Btw been in last week in Ceuta. The other coast of the border is btw more beautiful than that where you visited. The other side has amazingly high mountains, turquoise waters and higher view points where you can see at the same time Morocco (just few hundred meters away), a bit Atlantic ocean in horizon, European plate(with Spain and Gibraltar) and a bit Mediterranean sea.

[@ottovrizo5693]

Lets be real, no one would ever choose to stop being spanish and become moroccan.

[@incogb6696]

Who’se choice

[@incogb6696]

@@omarbayezza6790 DIMA🔥🔥🔥

[@Limpet-]

LETS BE REAL ……NO GIBRALTAR citizen would want to become Spanish and would never stop being BRITISH , FACT !

[@admar1208]

choice of who? at the time morocco was a lot more powerful and spain didn't even exist.

[@korpiz]

You could make a video asking why Turkey still has lands in Europe as well.

[@Go4Broke247]

Amazing, you're traveling to Ceuta and doing a video about it. Awesome!

[@anacasanova7350]

Porque UK tiene las Malvinas y Gibraltar, etc, etc? Porque Francia tiene montones de islas por todos los océanos ? , Porque USA tiene montones de islas por el mundo.? Porque Holanda tiene posesiones por el mundo.?

[@SB-xp4bd]

Free Anadlus 🇲🇦 on the loose

[@omargerardolopez3294]

*Neerlanda

[@donaldclifford5763]

Ever hear of the Bismark Archipelago?

[@martillodelajusticia7211]

Control over the maritimal territorty around it

[@donaldclifford5763]

There's a reason why Spanish is the second most widely spoken language, after English. And French is third.

[@skatingfreak1670]

Nice video KhAnubis. Another crazy thing about those two enclaves are they borders. Even though these are two cities they have some of the most craziest borders in the world. The amount of guards that are there as well as the multiple layers of security and fencing that they have set up. The amount of security that have is for a very good reason. The reason why is like some kind of cheat code for migrants. Since those enclaves are legally are part of Spain and Spain is apart of the European Union that means those cities are also officially apart of the E.U. as Khanubis already explained. That being said if the any migrants/immigrants who somehow made into the city they are immediately not allowed to be deported. The second they make it onto that soil that is it, because as mentioned earlier those cities (and those other pieces of land) are legally apart of the European Union making those cities (and pieces of land) subject to the laws of the E.U. Upon making it inside the city they could either choose to remain there in those cities are they could go and get taken to Europe and they could choose any country within the E.U. That being said, most migrants if not all of the migrants/immigrants now this. So large groups of these people start arriving and they camp somewhere outside on the morrocan side, waiting for more immigrants to show up to their camp sight, where they sleep, prepare food, eat and make and discuss their plans for the next day when they will be entering the city. Their playbook is to overwhelm the guards thru complete force and power if numbers and as many people to scale the multiple fences all at once. Other will engage the guards and try to slow them down, sacrificing their chance but for others to have the possibility to maybe make it thru all the obstacles and into the city because as they say, they cant stop all of them. Once they decide that they have enough people they begin to make their way out of their camps where they begin to make their way to the border. There are hundreds, more likely thousands of people, just about about all them young men whom are economic migrants. Upon realizing they are getting closer to the border they all begin to run. There reach the border showing up out of nowhere, wall full of people all running where they soon ambush the guards. Hundreds of those people make it across all those levels of the border and then they hundreds of people are seen running thru the city. Now that they are celebrating they begin to cause havoc which lasts until the next day. Homes are broken into, drivers are attacked, woman begin staying inside or making sure they aren't alone since reports of woman getting sexually assaulted and some of them raped while others were almost kidnapped. They are almost never charged and if some are its sometimes like one or two people even though the locals are reporting it was many many more. Soon after they are then taken to Europe and are released over there.

[@incogb6696]

Cheat code for Spain. "The mule women of Melilla on the border of Spain and Morocco Documentary " on KZbin

[@Thomas-lg6jx]

The Spanish govt should start putting so much security & such walls , electric wiring ect....& such that not even a rat can squeak through.........as for the ones who care to get through electronic wiring they should set up or electrified metal.mesh nets in the water & land mines on the beach .....a collection of pine boxes for them.that try illegally to enter.

[@1batarfi]

7:23 Why did you say here: Portugal controlled the city and did not say it was invaded as you said when the Muslims took control of the Iberian island? 5:06 The use of terminology here is heavily biased towards Spain 5:21 And here you used the term (the city was captured by the Portuguese and did not say invasion 6:45

[@pf7063]

Good video KhAnubis. One clarification: Ceuta and Melilla were Spanish territories, centuries ahead of Morocco existing as a country. Gibraltar occupation should have ended, based on the Utrecht peace agreement: so UK occupation is illegal, and under a weak United Nations supervision. So nothing to do with the Spanish cities…

[@jameshepburn4631]

The people of Gibraltar strongly want to stay British. Several plebiscites over the years have resulted in near unanimity for staying as is. The people speak English, drive what few streets there are on the left, are proud of being British, and essentially want nothing to do with Spain. Seems they should have the same rights as the Ceuta & Melilla Spanish have, namely to determine for themselves. Spain’s main problem in gaining Gibraltar back after its wartime loss about 300 years ago now, is NO OTHER country wants Spain in control there. NOBODY trusts the former Franco fiefdom to be in charge of such an important sea gate, let alone run it responsibly. They well remember Spain closing off land access to Gibraltar a few times when Spain had some extended hissy fits.

[@pf7063]

@@jameshepburn4631 James, yes being a tax haven is more attractive than being part of the most economically depressed area of Spain. But that has nothing to do with history, signed treaties, and legality. Neither Franco...

[@garbancitolentejas486]

@@jameshepburn4631 The people of Gibraltar live in La Linea.. what you say people from Gibraltar... they are people from Czyprus, Albania, Greece, Malta etc etc.. they are not natives from Gribraltar but people brought by British in 19th Century....Ceuta y Melilla has never been moroccian. but Spanish from.... Rome´s days?

[@jameshepburn4631]

@@garbancitolentejas486 Took a while to research and get info from Spanish Embassy, U.S. State Dept., tour operators and personal contacts, but the time was well spent to put facts against your propaganda. Turns out the population of Ceuta is less than 20% ethnic Spaniards. That’s less than your claimed foreigner population of Gibraltar. British ethnicity of Gibraltar by the way is appx 70% ( again from various sources including well known European travel guru Rick Steves). Cueta has a mongrel mix of at least 15 recognized ethnicities. Some are Moroccans, Tunisians, Non-Arab Berbers, Algerians, Mauritanians, Burkina Fasoans, Libyans, and other mostly Mediterranean Europeans & Africans. Spain’s tourism info as well as independent travel/holiday companies promote the ethnic mix of Cueta as a positive must see experience for tourists. They don’t try to leave unmentioned facts about Cueta’s population, unlike the Franco’s fiefdom folks bitching and whining about the people of Gibraltar wanting to remain happily British.

[@garbancitolentejas486]

​@@jameshepburn4631 Islamic population in Ceuta has come in recent years as an illegal population... Gibraltar issue has nothing to do with Ceuta. The latter never belonged to Morocco.....

[@caniblmolstr4503]

I have to say I really liked the Fate of Iberia and the events with it

[@carlbowles1808]

Thanks for clearing that up.

[@r-pu4md]

You should have talked about the illegal occupation of Western Sahara by Morocco. They are the actual colonizers.

[@manueltorres5063]

True

[@ilias2marr]

ceuta also a colonie

[@DR_ndo]

​@@ilias2marr Tiene estatuto de autonomía, algo que una colonia no tiene. Ceuta no es una colonia.

[@mr.battledroid2195]

moroccan nazionalists (yes, because they literally act like nazis) ask for ceuta and mellila and the canary islands despite these never being moroccan, being spanish even before morocco actually existed

[@saadiel7402]

The cities were colonised by Spain

[@mr.battledroid2195]

@@saadiel7402 they weren’t because Ceuta and Melilla were Visigoth even before the kingdoms that would form Spain got founded. The cordoba caliphate owned Ceuta and Melilla so castille and Aragon ended the reconquista with Ceuta and Melilla, these 2 cities being cities not colonies

[@hibameral2323.]

@@mr.battledroid2195 nah they were tanzaniens , they geographically, historically are moroccans n if u don t know this then don’t blame us for ur ignorance go educate ur self , man morocco existed way before spain existed and when we moors went to iberian land there were nothing called spain but small kingdoms like catalonia , morocco rulled spain and portugal and the capital city was marrakech then what are u just talking about

[@mr.battledroid2195]

@@hibameral2323. wtf is wrong with you? morocco didn't invade spain the ummayad caliphate did morocco did not exist by then and what was on the iberian peninsula was a big united visigothic kingdom then they all divided and formed spain, even if what you're saying was true (its not) ceuta and melilla are rightfully spanish and were taken in a war just like us spaniards don't demand north catalonia which was historically spanish but we lost it on the 30 years war, just as portuguese don't demand brasil because it used to be portuguese and just as us spaniards don't demand ifni despite it was rightfully spanish and was not a colony.

[@Great.Mauricia]

Moroccan cities before the migration of the Visigoths and before that belonged to the Kingdom of Mauritania before 700 BC.😅​@@mr.battledroid2195

[@pedromartinojeda]

You think that a Moroccan who has fled his country (a theocratic dictatorship full of poverty and misery) and who has settled in Ceuta or Melilla, enjoying the freedom and prosperity of living in Spain, wants Morocco to appropriate these cities. The most patriotic Spaniards are those emigrants and children of emigrants, who have found in Ceuta and Melilla the opportunity to live in a developed country, in freedom and being able to practice their religion and live their faith. The last thing they want is for those lands to be ruined by and become what they have fled from.

[@Vent5334]

Ofcourse a western person who knows nothing about morocco is calling a semi constitutional monarchy a "theocratic dictatorship"

[@alexpotts6520]

"Despite being good Catholics, Spain never pulled out of Ceuta and Melilla" Is... is that a joke about how they're not supposed to use contraception?

[@alex-eucmad.7133]

Ceuta and Melilla have absolutely nothing to do with the case of Gibraltar. And the reason is very simple: Ceuta and Melilla were already part of the territory of Spain before Morocco even existed as a country. However, Gibraltar did belong to Spain, and this territory was ceded to the British FOR 300 YEARS... time has passed and they have not kept their word and do not want to return it to Spain. In addition, the treaty by which Spain ceded the Rock of Gibraltar to the United Kingdom only spoke of the fortress and its surroundings. Nothing more. However, the English have built an airport IN SPANISH WATERS, in addition to reclaiming land from the sea to increase their territory, these waters being Spanish sovereignty. It is advisable to be well informed before stating that the case of Ceuta and Melilla is similar to that of Gibraltar because it is flatly false

[@nora937]

If ceuta and mellila belong to spain , well gibraltar belongs to the british , stop being hypocrites

[@alex-eucmad.7133]

@@nora937 can you explain why?

[@nora937]

@@alex-eucmad.7133 cause morocco already did exist , just cause it went through different dynasties doesnt mean that there was ‘no morocco’ , its just that it wasnt this last dynasty ruling over it when spain colonised it , but the dynasty before , ( so a hypothetical question , if morocco would all over get colonised today and then have people resist and take over again ‘most of the land’ so a new dynasty takes over again you beleive the foreign coloniser that still got part of the country has any right of the land ?) . And another thing some moroccan dynasties had big parts of current spain too when there was no country called spain yet , but ofc we would never claim spain since we dont even come from there originally , but ceuta and mellila are part of our native land

[@nora937]

@Rodolfo Antón Martínez I dont speak spanish

[@nora937]

@Rodolfo Antón Martínez ik versta hier het woord ‘traductor’ , en ik snap nie waarom ik degene ben die moeite moet doen hier , jij hebt op mij gecomment en niet andersom

[@yeeticus7206]

Cueta and mellila are Spanish. Morocco has a valid claim to them however I am more convinced by the Spanish argument. What I am not convinced by is Spain changing its tune about Gibraltar, very very similar situations and spinards would have to be very hypocritical to regard Gibraltar as Spanish while Ceuta and Mellila aren’t Moroccan.

[@incogb6696]

Gibraltar is named after a Moroccan. Sebta/Melila are 100% Moroccan

[@yeeticus7206]

@@incogb6696 u think Gibraltar is Moroccan?😂 Casablanca is a Spanish name for White House, doesn’t make it Spanish

[@MA-go7ee]

The fact that both cities are on the African mainland seems to be confusing many people. As though that automatically means they must be colonial projects Spain has no legitimate rights to. The logic here seems to be that Morocco must have a claims simply because the cities are closer to them than they are to Spain?? Because if they had the same history but were located on the other side of the Mediterranean closer to Spain is seriously doubt anyone would even entertain the idea that 500+ year old conquered territory is not legitimately Spain's.

[@incogb6696]

no bcs they are Moroccan & belong to Morocco

[@angelf2966]

@@incogb6696 Díselo a la ONU, Hassan.

[@incogb6696]

@@angelf2966 Ok, I will write a letter.

[@xelenaboo4447]

Its literally moroccan land. Spain has no business in africa

[@benicabanas9793]

@@xelenaboo4447 Now say it without whining 😁

[@MiryaSosume]

Gibraltar is a colony Ceuta y Melilla r not

[@JamesDelanoMcCarthysecondacc]

Gibraltar is overseas

[@MiryaSosume]

@@JamesDelanoMcCarthysecondacc it is a colony. Oversea territory ia just a name they put to disguise their obvious colonialism

[@JamesDelanoMcCarthysecondacc]

@@MiryaSosume stop yapping

[@MiryaSosume]

@@JamesDelanoMcCarthysecondacc keep telling yourself that👍 not helping ya...

[@JamesDelanoMcCarthysecondacc]

@@MiryaSosume and it's you

[@the_fixer2593]

9:19 "Despite being good Catholics, Spain never pulled out of Ceuta and Melilla." Really underrated joke there, slipped by me the first time I watched this.

[@Limpet-]

This video is quite biased towards the Spanish and doesn’t really reveal the true history about the Portuguese

[@kjul.]

I always thought these territories were some leftovers from the Spanish colonial area, really interesting and well made video!

[@sebastianstiernspetz7205]

I'm Swedish and my grandfather worked as a guest worker engineer in Algeria during the 1970s-80s. One time he told me a story. When he was driving (yes, driving) back to Sweden he entered Ceuta to take a ferry back to Spain. They almost didn't let him cross. I forgot why. Yes, I suck at telling stories, but I'm trying. Quiet.

[@pop7058]

You make me laugh so hard

[@marvinbrando722]

Waiting for the rest of the story

[@flopunkt3665]

Why wouldn't he take a ferry to Marseille?

[@beaver2527]

Oh so you're Swedish? Name every Swedish person.

[@abcdediaz5703]

¿No tenía dinero para el billete del ferry tal vez?

[@jaythompson5102]

Good job Paradox this is a good way to low key support your games.

[@silencemeviolateme6076]

Guess the same reason turkey still has cities in Europe.

[@moncef9778]

turkey in europa

[@silencemeviolateme6076]

@@moncef9778 and Spain is in north Africa