Why states have banned a once popular way to teach children to read

[@cdorman11]

"An uneducated populace is easier to cow, easier to control, and easier to enslave." - Thomas Jefferson "The secret of freedom lies in educating people, whereas the secret of tyranny is in keeping them ignorant." - Maximilien Robespierre

[@missladyanonymity]

🐄🐮?

[@ciobalina7445]

I don't think people who are too uneducated are productive workers, it doesn't make sense.

[@gigglehertz]

"I love the educated!" - DJT

[@111laetitia]

Perfectly put!! 🎉💯👍

[@CanadianMonarchist]

I suppose Robespierre would know about tyranny.

[@MyBizOnlu]

When our school announced they would change to sight reading I knew phonics were necessary so I started teaching them reading at age 4 with letter flashcards, artistically made by a neighbor. Both were reading in kindergarten and school told me I did not do them any favors. They were wrong on sight reading as well as me teaching my kids to read. Books are important at earliest age which promotes desire to read later on. If it ain't broke dont fix it, get back to phonics!!!

[@WarriorJournals]

When I saw that my niece had sight words to learn in kindergarten, my first thought was "Oh, this is not going to be good." We had already been teaching her the letters and writing and sounding them out since before preschool. And had been teaching her English & Spanish, Japanese writing, & some French. Her vocabulary and language skills were fantastic, even her preschool teacher commented about her vocab being so advanced. Sure enough she struggled with sight words and had to go to extra "reading" (sight words are not reading🙄) courses in kindergarten, but what did they expect after children have already learned to sound words out. She continued to struggle with it through first grade. Then sight words were over, and I went back to teaching her how to break down the syllables and sound the words out and keep her finger under the line so she wouldn't lose focus. We did so much one-on-one reading practice to catch her back up! I'm very happy and grateful to say that now, in fifth grade, she's a good reader in both English & Spanish. No teaching method for reading beats learning to just sound the letters out. I wish they would stop messing with all this nonsense.

[@bcc7777]

Mhmm, even memorization. My oldest would memorize books we read nightly and eventually he'd recognize the words, because I underlined them with my fingers. He read before kindergarten.

[@mitzimitchell6813]

I did hooked on phonics. I don’t care what they say, you need to have basic phonics.

[@SewingBoxDesigns]

Yep, schools want total control of how your child's brain is formed.

[@V_Hayden7]

lol, I just said the same thing "if ain't broke don't fix it." Seems like we should send some of the teachers back to school.

[@margiedenavarre7919]

New fads in education are promoted by salespeople trying to sell curriculum. And the admin falls for it every time. It’s pathetic.

[@JimiGosu]

Three Cueing isn't new. It's a failed method that was tried in the 1960's.

[@neilkurzman4907]

I remember the SRA reading cards from 60’s absolutely useless

[@syrenasketches6902]

It's all about the money. Complete scam.

[@bellfaith1065]

False it's by design

[@cindystuder9090]

Lots of federal money to be made as well.

[@weeblossompreschool]

Unfortunately, there seems to be a systematic attempt to lower the intelligence of the American children. 😢 Phonological and phonemic awareness are imperative when teaching a child to read. 🤗 These poor babies are in serious trouble.

[@jessicamontaperto810]

For dyslexia kids like myself it doesn’t work for kids with dyslexia .

[@NINA10117]

Easier for a corrupt government to control an uneducated population.

[@tamdsms]

@weeblossompreschool , Well said. I think the goal is to dumb down kids & future adults. Alexander Hamilton stated, "It seems to have been reserved to the people of this country, by their conduct and example, to decide the important question, whether societies of men are really capable or not of establishing good government from reflection and choice, or whether they are forever destined to depend for their political constitutions on accident and force." If they can't read, the public is so much easier to rule & control. That's a crime against democracy.

[@kimberlyakin8908]

Yes so we get tRump in office and People fall for cults. I believe it is systematic and planned. My high school { Im 60} In ILL. taught lies about the Pilgrims and then taught all the way to the Lies of the Alamo . then the Next year the same thing. we were NEVER taught about WW1 or WW2. I only Know Because My father fought in the war so I looked it up Myself and then took history In college. There are Kids In High school that know Nothing about the Holocaust and even less Know In college.

[@MonkeyMind69]

The specific culprit you're looking for is our 'Prussian' based education system. The Prussian based education system deliberately omits the Trivium (aka Grammar, logic, and rhetoric) from the curriculum. This system was brought to the United states and implemented on purpose, as a means of control, by Horace Mann in the mid 19th century. The Prussian based education system was designed to usher in the industrial revolution. They wanted to develop skills in children while still keeping them compliant to authority figures (bosses). The result was omitting the Trivium, also known as the liberal arts (because it's considered essential for a person to be free) from children's education. This system works much like the parable; Give a man a fish (so that he becomes dependent on you), vs. Teach a man to fish (so he becomes independent and free). In the context of the Prussian based system, teach kids what to think, vs. teach kids HOW to think critically. Sadly, not even most teachers realize they are part of the problem. In speaking with teachers, I've heard most of them say that they wanted to do more for kids when they started, but the 'system' makes it extremely difficult. Because this has been going on for so long (nearly 200 years, and fully implemented in 1979 when the federal government took control), the teachers are often a product of the same system they teach. The solution is getting parents to recognize the problem. It needs to be a grassroots movement since those in power don't want people to see the truth of the system. The Prussian based education system subverts critical thinking, but doesn't prevent it. It can be supplemented at home. The method of teaching that is considered to be the best at teaching the trivium is called the 'Socratic' method. It involves asking lots of questions, then questioning the answers. It involves debate, and going back in forth to consider all possibilities. Not only does one question the answers, but one questions the questions too, as well as the motivations of those asking or answering them. There is a rare college professor at Yale that has a youtube channel called Soc119 that uses this method. I sincerely believe that if we can create one single generation of critical thinkers worldwide, it will solve nearly ALL of humanity's problems.

[@shari9721]

Watching that so called "teacher" not only stop the child from trying to sound out the words , the method that actually works , but literally give him trouble for doing it and cover the words so he cant see them and had no choice but to look at the pictures , forcing the child to fail at reading was heartbreaking and infuriating . That "teacher" needs to be fired , she is not fit to actually teach .

[@jessicamontaperto810]

I d’ never do that I recommend book mark to sound out each word it does work I know what it is like to struggle with reading, I d’ not cover them

[@Ketowski]

@@jessicamontaperto810 So you mean using a bookmark, or a system called Bookmark?

[@karlrovey]

More likely, the teacher was required to use the "reading recovery" program.

[@cyndinelson8700]

We used I know when to turn the page at the right time while they’re reading out loud. Literally it was 12 kids w/ phonics that became competitive so we had a natural curiosity and want to learn. It gave us drive, I think the tuned into internet & television kids have no real drive to succeed at things, it’s like “ why do I need to know it now I can just ask Alexa or Siri”. That drives me mad when they’re not taken to camp or summer programs w/ friends or family of th same age range that could point out what th kid is missing is.. In th90’s when my grandmother, a teacher volunteered 2 read James & th Giant Peach at the public library about 7 friends were interested and grabbed copies 2 read along. It gave them understanding being able to look on th cover and follow what talking to the caterpillar concept was, as a child can’t be the same size literally. figurative isn’t easy to grasp.

[@vickisnemeth7474]

That teacher is using behaviourism to damage the kid's desire to sound out words and if she is not taken off him he might have trouble fixing his problems for the rest of his life.

[@evolunacy2]

“The system isn’t broken-it was designed this way”. The system is working fine for those in power. Nothing to see here.

[@cathylucas3653]

Correct. I’ve seen the pattern in diets and debt- the majority of us are supposed to fail

[@OldBrainPlasticity]

"Are we saying that children shouldn't have any pictures in their books"... We are saying eventually there shouldn't be pictures in the books, because that's what advancing means. So the pictures should NOT be a cue

[@BookAndLace]

AMEN! There are books like graphic novels that are adult, but decoding art and decoding letters for words are TWO VERY DIFFERENT skills. It's disgusting what this college dean is advocating.

[@ANewPlace]

There always need to be pictures in books for children

[@OldBrainPlasticity]

@ANewPlace and if you read my comment I never denied that. I said the goal was to help them advance to where the pictures aren't needed

[@Teverell]

Back in the late 90s in the UK, I went into a junior school (elementary?) once a week. The lesson I was there for was English, and the different kids were reading different books. I sat down with one kid and asked what he was reading. It was a Star Wars novel, in the X-wing series. The same series I was reading myself at eighteen. This kid was eight. Kids CAN learn to read anything, if they are taught properly. Teachers should use tried and tested and proven methods. To do any less is to rob the kids of their potential and their futures.

[@RichardChappell1]

That comment by Dr Dooley was such a massive strawman that it had to be either intentional dishonesty or incompetence. Based on her other comments, I don't believe incomptence. It looks far more like a planned intentional response to derail the question.

[@DarkArwen929]

When my son was very young and iwent to enroll him in public school i casually mentioned i was teaching my son to read. She suddenly sat up and told me not to do that. They would handle that. That sounded stupid to me and i ignored it. I'm conviced that schools intentionally create illiteratecy.

[@ankavoskuilen1725]

How stupid of the teacher. My grandpa, who was a teacher himself, taught us how to read when we were 5. We could read when we entered school. That was by no means any problem.

[@laurenj.5312]

You are right. They don't want children to learn different methods until they are failing. Then parents and teachers will have to seek and find other methods to teach the child to read.

[@bitrudder3792]

I find that arrogance pretty annoying. I was at Barnes & Noble one time and looked into a book meant for teachers to purchase. As homeschooling parent myself, I was curious...And then disgusted to see the sections that talked about how to talk to parents to keep them Out of their hair as it were. The assumption was that parents are stupid. They were massaging the egos of young teachers to keep parents out of the educational sphere.

[@Caok1955]

Disgusting..we speak..we associate sounds of words to the visual of letters singular and grouped.

[@theeTJ]

That’s terrible! My mom would read to me all the time when I was a toddler and I could read a few words by the time I was four. By the time I was 5 - I was on a roll! I encourage every parent to teach their children what the schools won’t.

[@LittleHandsBaking]

Yup, they are insane! They are doing the same thing in our school. And as soon as I figured my daughter was guessing, I had to take over! I exterminated completely the guessing, and taught her sister reading before kindergarten. We started when she was 4,5yo and she was reading by 5. I still remember the shock when my daughter said the teacher said we can also "look at the picture and guess", my heart sank. As an immigrant I was so disappointed. I studied three languages in my country and never a teacher told me to guess,even in my own language.

[@mademsoisellerhapsody]

Wait till you see what schools do with Math. Still puzzling over ‘front end estimation’ which means guess the sum. Students should be taught how to sum. Not how to guess.

[@LittleHandsBaking]

@mademsoisellerhapsody 😳 What grade is that? I work with both of them. So far I haven't heard anything about that. I know they don't show them at all the old way of doing addition and multiplication, but I do. We do history at at home and English. My oldest can read in my language, and she can read the words even though she doesn't know the meaning of all of them, which to me it really doesn't matter, she can learn the meaning anytime.

[@J.Anita24]

My son was as well. They pushed sight words. I had to go back and teach him phonics. He is getting better but still struggling. I started his little brother with phonics now he is 3 grades ahead. 😢 I wish I started my 1st baby with phonics

[@jordanwhite5470]

@@LittleHandsBaking Comprehension DOES matter; there's no point in reading if you don't understand what was read.

[@LittleHandsBaking]

@@jordanwhite5470 The point is to learn to read good. First you need to learn to read good, comprehension isn't that hard. In my country whenever there is a word in a text you may not know, it is explained at the bottom of the page, and there you go. You can read it as many times as you need to remind yourself what it means, and you'll remember it.

[@But4grace]

I saw this happening first hand in NYC and it was a failure. Teaching phonics gives kids the ability to learn skills that can help them deconstruct words they have never seen before

[@jazzyj6368]

I was taught hooked on phonics.

[@anneshirley95]

@@jazzyj6368you just opened a memory I forgot that I had.

[@patti5007]

Phonics works!!! They're trying to dumb down our children

[@elizabethtruscott2888]

Have you ever taught children to read?

[@alwaysyouramanda]

I had no idea they were stripping kids systemically of this ability. This is terrifying.

[@lizzy-wx4rx]

But where did this new method even come from? Even Sesame Street used phonics to teach kids to sound out words, when did that become controversial??

[@sarahy9513]

When someone wanted a PhD and was required to come up with some new method to get it. I have a theory about this and the common core math nightmare, that both were created by individuals who mistook the end results of competency (the ability to recognize words on sight in reading, and the ability to mentally use different strategies to group numbers in order to solve arithmetic problems in math) for the building blocks of competency and decided to only train those - thus the emphasis on sight words and drawing out boxes for math problems that don't need a visual illustration of number groupings. It's the type of foolishness that requires many years of higher education and self-aggrandizing to actually believe in. God help the children subject to these people and their experiments.

[@lizzy-wx4rx]

@@sarahy9513 That theory makes sense, I bet you're right.

[@choco1199]

Elmo is a better teacher than these idiots

[@PuddilyOops]

Lucy Calkins and Fountas and Pinelle. They sold the teachers schools this idea and they bought it. There’s a whole podcast about it. The other poster is right, they wanted to do something new because keeping the old methods isn’t going to sell new reading programs.

[@ladyterror4663]

This makes me sad, I was taught with phonics too. My mom would have me read aloud to her and if I couldn’t figure one out, to spell it out for her so she could tell me. Worked amazing and I’m an avid reader now.

[@wendigo333]

A better method. One on one reading time with your child at home. My mom taught me how to read with the Harry Potter books she owned. I was reading big chapter books by 1st grade because of that. Then in 7th grade I was understanding Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet without modern translation. The school system is sabotaging the parents here.

[@lorrainefoster1320]

My nana taught me how to read at 3. Kids should come reading already, however, everyone does not have that or they have to work and cannot read themselves.

[@wendigo333]

@lorrainefoster1320 True. Too true. I was lucky to be raised on books. I never even worked a computer until my mid teens.

[@Ketowski]

@@wendigo333 That’s probably better regarding computers. How do you feel about Australia banning internet under 16?

[@gregorymalchuk272]

That's still basically phonetic learning. Your mom helping you sound out words while reading books before bedtime.

[@Amygondor]

you're lying aobut R&J and shakspeare.

[@natalieshicks7880]

Having learned reading by phonics I taught my daughter how to read by phonics. When I sent her to public school K-4 she was reading books that were 1st or 2nd grade level. She would come home crying telling me that her teachers told her that she was reading wrong and to stop sounding out words. She was so upset by this that she stopped reading completely. It wasn't until she was a teenager being home schooled that she started reading the way I taught her. They also did this with math. When I sent her to school she was able to count to 100 by 1's, 2's, 5's and 10's. By the end of k-4 she couldn't do any of those things. I taught her how to add and subtract single digits, and double digits. They told her she was doing that wrong also. Teaching her the 'new' math that makes no sense. Worse thing I ever did was send her to a public school. If I could go back and change that decision I would.

[@lauralafauve5520]

Trying to explain to my grandson that our family for the last five generations had been doing math a certain way as an alternative to the way he was learning it at school! It's been tough going!

[@thesagesapprentice383]

This is good parenting. This sounds like what I did with my children.

[@BookAndLace]

like you I very much had them reading and doing math well above their grade level, but mine are still in the public system. We've been blessed with amazing teachers & disterics that have supported and encouraged my kids to keep at it. One even told us "I wish I had a class full of Williams" (my then 7 year old son). We do what we can and you absolutely can get your girl back on advanced reading/math track. As a librarian I say let her read anything and everything she wants - even if it seems "too easy" to you. If she is reading and enjoying it she will naturally advance herself when ready. And encourage her to read what she likes - don't worry about "classics" or romance vs SciFi vs non-fiction. Again, she will find her niche and fly. I read Hamlet in 6th grade because a teacher said I couldn't - that sparked defiance in me . . . ended up spending years in costuming/theater, got a full college scholarship, double majored in Art and Literature, and eventually ended up with a Masters degree. If a dyslexic little girl with depression (and suicidal thoughts) can recover, I KNOW your girl can. **fist bump** Fighting!

[@ThestorytellerofKatunga]

It is so easy to teach children to read by using sounds and phonics. It is easy. They are complicating reading by banning it.

[@MiamiPush2theLimit]

Public schools used to be awesome before Republicans made it their mission to destroy it.

[@morganbudreau8957]

With this method, kids will get to be teenagers and severely bullied because they don’t know how to read basic words. Reading pictures is not reading. Adult books don’t have a lot of pictures in them.

[@jessicamontaperto810]

True 75% fourth graders re’ below grade level those with dyslexia need it addressed outside of the school system with my experience they don’t help you, unfortunately the dyslexia centers re’ not cheap.

[@Ketowski]

@@jessicamontaperto810 Could kids access videos to help them sound out?

[@jerryshelton1481]

Yeah how many company memos have pictures how many government forms have pictures this is so stupid

[@jonathanjones3126]

​@@jessicamontaperto810dyslexia needs specialists they aren't cheap

[@speakrighttogod]

It's delibelrate. Keeping them dumbed down IS the goal!!!

[@joycewright5386]

Recently at my church I noticed a fairly large group of youth (ages 12 and up) were not singing the hymns. I asked the youth leader why the children don’t sing, thinking they didn’t like the hymn etc. She replied it was because most couldn’t read well enough so if they didn’t know the hymn by heart they can’t sing. Sad world.

[@AmandaTurner-m7b]

Kids at my church insisted wood could melt to two of my girls. They said wood burns it doesn’t melt and the kids replied you only think that because you are homeschooled so you don’t know any better. The kids were not playing they were serious. I told my girls to be glad we homeschool.

[@joycewright5386]

@ wow! Yes I applaud anyone that homeschools.

[@SamanthasUniverse]

We should definitely be seeing more lawsuits.

[@jordanwhite5470]

Then why didn't the Youth Leader do something about it?? Unbelievable !

[@jordanwhite5470]

@@AmandaTurner-m7b I'd be speaking to someone about the way my child was taunted.

[@ThePopUpH8r]

Get hooked on phonics

[@cerumara]

I'll second this.

[@jessicamontaperto810]

For severe dyslexia it does not work I don’t get phonics my boyfriend & I re” dyslexic I was warned my future kids ll have dyslexia & dyscalculia.

[@cerumara]

@@jessicamontaperto810 Well I don't have dyslexia but I have dyscalculia. It takes time but it 100% worked for me. I went to school with dyslexic children who learned using phonics (slower) --but I'd argue that any type of writing is learned slow if you are dyslexic. I did have remedial math to help out with support but I went through University with a 3.5 GPA and never failed a math class. Phonics may not work for everyone but it worked for the majority.

[@MNP208]

The “phonics game” is better!

[@MNP208]

@@jessicamontaperto810Yes, you’re correct, some kids need a different approach. What worked for you?

[@bettykambetsis896]

I am 71 years old. I could read and write before I started school. How? I watched my mother read. SHe read the newspaper every morning and afternoon. She read a book while she ate her lunch. When she laid down in the afternoon for a nap she read a chapter or two before closing her eyes. She received letters nearly every day from friends and family members and took time in the afternoon before making dinner to write her replies. My older sister taught me to read the "funny pages" which we spread out on the living room floor. My older brothers had school books which I was allowed to read as long as I could explain what I had read. I was grilled at the dinner table to explain what I had read if I was to be allowed back into their books again. My father sat me at the kitchen table to read to him while he dried the dinner dishes. In a home like that, how could I not learn how to read?

[@louannramirez4278]

We also learned phonics back then. The teachers, and our parents taught us how to sound out a word. Your love of reading came from your family and that’s wonderful but Dick and Jane taught us…..phonics. We had spelling tests every Fri too.

[@SamanthasUniverse]

That's not how you learn to read. If you aren't taught phonics, none of the other things your family did would have mattered.

[@trishayamada807]

@@SamanthasUniversemy son taught himself to read by age 4 because he wanted to play games with his older siblings and they need to be able to read to play. He’s now reading meteorology text books because he wants to be a storm chaser. He never learned phonics or any other way to read. He’s just a smart child who excels in academics. His pediatrician said it’s like conversing with a colleague.

[@lf4061]

@@SamanthasUniverse She did not say how she learned to read only pointed out all good examples provided her. I was taught phonics also but with a love of reading, I developed a very high vocabulary for my age by looking up words I did not know in a dictionary and as there are many words that are adapted from other languages and others that are not pronounced the way they are spelled, having someone tell you what they are and then memorizing them is also important. Yes, I think starting with phonics for the very young is good but it is not enough for more advanced vocabulary. However, the more important thing is not how a person learns to read, but that he/she does learn to read and definitely needs to learn to enjoy reading and learning. It should not have to be one way or the other, but should be enjoyable, interesting, and encouraging; just as this lady’s family were.

[@FusRoDarshinae]

I'm in my 40's, Our home life was like that too but also our parents spent hours every day reading books to and with us any time, not just at bedtime. Phonics was normal. By the time we got to school we were a couple of years ahead of the standard for 5 year olds in reading. 'School learning' began from birth really, in the home. I imagine a lot of parents in todays world dont have time or energy to spend with their children like that. Many parents have multiple jobs each, or struggle to read themselves.

[@pamelahaltmeyer.1288]

A structured, sequential phonics curriculum is needed. About eighty percent of English is phonetic and predictable.

[@bitrudder3792]

And with structured phonics programs, a smart kid can practically teach himself to read. they used to have them at our library and they were popular checkouts. And they are definitely helpful for any child.

[@lauralafauve5520]

Exactly

[@virginiamoss7045]

The real issue here is not what is needed to benefit kids. It's political corruption by Republicans harming our kids. What children need is protection from Republicans who want ill-educated voters in the future while enriching companies who bribe them to use their curriculum. That's what's going on. It has nothing to do with teaching kids to read.

[@Bob-p2q9q]

I recieved a letter from the school ,but it doesn't have pictures on it,how an i supposed to read it😂

[@jessicamontaperto810]

I d’ recommend read one paragraph at a time then use book mark to sound out the words). Keep doing that u ll improve

[@Ketowski]

@@jessicamontaperto810 The OP was just being sarcastic, but you have a good point.

[@bitrudder3792]

good one!

[@scottrobinson9334]

I would send it back and tell them I could not read it bc there are no images

[@bitrudder3792]

@ 😅

[@janesimply1363]

The Kentucky teacher is gaslighting the young boy trying to read! 3 Cueing is horrible. Dr. Dooley is grossly out of touch and is grasping at straws. She doesn’t make sense. Does she receive compensation $$$ for the “request” of the program? “Reading Recovery” is a plan for frustration & failure.

[@virginiamoss7045]

The boy's frustration made me cry. That was nothing but mental abuse! How tragic for him. And you can't undo that harm just like we can't unsee what we wish we had not seen.

[@terifinnegan6649]

I feel for kids. Phonics work

[@brittanydaniels1102]

Phonics doesn't work for every student because some have the temporal type of Auditory Processing Disorder (APD) that cause a person to not be able to use phonics to learn how to read at all.

[@jessicamontaperto810]

@@brittanydaniels1102& dyslexic as well). I don’t get phonics neither my nieces get it).

[@jonathanjones3126]

​@@brittanydaniels1102then you use another method for those kids, just like how their are different methods of learning for different people

[@cheryllwaldrop9732]

​@@brittanydaniels1102rare exceptions do not disprove general rules. How are you going to find out who the exceptions are unless you expose them to the phonics in the first place?

[@sarahy9513]

​@brittanydaniels1102 the key is in the word "disorder." Some small percentage will not be able to use the phonics method, that's true, but that's where specialized assistance comes in. This method, on the other hand, fails every child. We need to stop letting perfect be the enemy of good. Something that works for the vast majority should be the standard, with additional supplementation for specific disorders that make it unsuitable.

[@gregorymalchuk272]

It's incredible that these "experts" thought that turning the English language into glorified hieroglyphics was "progress". Humanity moving from away from hieroglyphs to phoneme based alphabets and written languages was a huge step of progress.

[@gmansard641]

I was about to make the same comment! I have studied several languages, phonetic writing systems are one of humanity's greatest inventions. We need to capitalize on their advantages.

[@mademsoisellerhapsody]

Teachers are not usually the brightest in the bunch

[@timgomolka644]

Now we’re using emojis which are the modern day hieroglyphics!

[@bitcoinconstitutionalist9252]

Sight reading is how to read Chinese because it CAN'T be sounded out. English is a phonetic language. It uses letters to make up our words, not pictures representing ideas. Teaching children to sight-read English is sabotaging their ability to read.

[@sr2291]

What about Russian?

[@ankavoskuilen1725]

​@@sr2291Russian just has different letters but it is phonics.

[@historianKelly]

​@@sr2291I took Russian in college. Once you know the sound (phonics) of each letter in the Cyrillic alphabet, you can literally pronounce ANY word in the Russian language. It's actually easier to speak than English - however, learning the rules & vocabulary are what got me!

[@bellalerman9359]

@@sr2291russian is phonics

[@makotoserenity]

This right here. I learned Japanese and once we got to Kanji “alphabet” we had to memorize that symbol (word). The symbols were adopted by the Chinese language. Each symbol has a story behind it. We had to memorize the visual, direction of each stroke, sounds, and story behind that symbol. And that is just for one word! It does not make sense to do this for the English language. English is already backwards compared to most of the world in how we speak structurally and we have so many rules that also complicate how we read/write. Why are we making it even harder?

[@peachykeen8504]

I saw the kindergarten teaching sight words. So I taught my child the phonic method at home. I had to make my own books, nothing was simple enough. "We see a tree. A fat cat sat on a mat." He had to read the books to me. Also we went to the library every weekend. We only got fun books. Reading had to be recreational, not a chore.

[@ankavoskuilen1725]

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[@historianKelly]

My mom was a young mom in the 1960s (she married as a teen & had all her kids by age 25). She loved to read, so she read to all of us literally from birth - for those of us who weren't 1st born, probably before, since she read out loud while we were in the womb 😂 I'm the 2nd child. She said I grabbed a brand new book one night at 3yo & read it to her. I'm 59 now and nearly completed a PhD before my health crashed. Taught my dyslexic sister to read using phonemic awareness when I was only 10. No one in my family, even with LDs, is illiterate or hates reading (math's a different story). I'm also a published historian & my sister wrote poetry. Our mom fostered that love in us. These teachers in GA are making these children hate & fear reading, therefore knowledge. It's a scary situation & I never trust ANYONE who keeps people uninformed.

[@reverbscherzo7850]

Sight words are supposed to be words that don't sound out at the kindergarten level. Examples are like, you, the, why, what, good. If you sound out the word "like", you get licky. They call them sight words, because they are the words that kindergarteners need to know, but can't sound out with the letter sounds knowledge they have at that level. If they're teaching only by sight, they're definitely doing it wrong.

[@taylornewman1339]

This was me! I was a reading recovery student! I didn't learn to read until I was 12. I was worse off because of the program not better.

[@3_up_moon]

Which program? The phonics program?

[@Seeker0fTruth]

@@3_up_moonNo the whole piece is about the program called “Reading Recovery” which the OP mentioned….

[@NottABlack]

​@@3_up_moon4:39 this

[@virginiamoss7045]

I'm so very sorry this happened to you. It was not right. Now your task is to do the best you can moving yourself forward in life with as much confidence as you can muster. I wish you well.

[@danieldelewis2448]

7:28 this is called a Freudian slip. She started to say requiring. Why is this significant? The fact that it is "required" means that there is still plenty of money to be made from teaching this failed method. The college is not going to simply walk away because it has been proven not to work. This is where the ethics of education has failed our students. Never forget that institutionalized discrimination started in the classroom, and is still found to be alive and well within the walls of these government institutions.

[@OutragedPufferfish]

Who's profiting from this failed method being taught, and how does the profit happen?

[@SewingBoxDesigns]

@OutragedPufferfish Companies that hire low intellect workers for low wages for one. And homeless advocates and cities that 'misplace' millions of dollars so they can herd the homeless drug addicts who will never succeed in life around. People so stupid they believe anything someone tells them are great voters.

[@danieldelewis2448]

@ you have to watch the video, it's laid out clearly. I think they even give dollar amounts

[@cheryllwaldrop9732]

​@@OutragedPufferfishIf you go back over the last few decades, you'll see how and why the curriculum landscape changed so drastically.

[@greenbyrd3665]

This is why people are so critical of the public school system. Every few years a new fad is introduced; completely upending student's education. Comletely ridiculous!!

[@SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648]

Not so sure the school should be blamed, but politicians.

[@Ketowski]

There are often a lot of pressures on educators and inadequate resources.

[@Ketowski]

@@SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648 It’s the corporations driving agendas now. They’re the politicians’ founders, so they’re operating like the bosses.

[@mcollins630]

They used to only do this with math!

[@bellfaith1065]

By design

[@lovinlife6630]

If children have to rely mostly on pictures and context clues to read instead of sounding out words, how are they going to succeed at writing and spelling words?

[@ankavoskuilen1725]

Easy:they are not.

[@lovinlife6630]

​@@ankavoskuilen1725 True

[@lauralafauve5520]

They don't. It's why I hate to see people harassed online when their spelling, etc., is horrible. We can't control how we are taught as children although it affects our entire life!

[@abeiradapraia]

@@lauralafauve5520them those people need to learn how to read and write properly before coming onto the internet and trying to write comments. They will be shamed, it is what it is.

[@cecedubois5147]

They aren't. And sadly, that's the point.

[@FamilyMatterswithAmber]

I homeschooled my 3 children and taught them how to read (no degree required). They thrived learning to read the old fashioned way...even the one who hated reading. There are so many counterintuitive, and frankly ridiculous, "methods" of teaching which schools and their "partners" force on our students that don't work. We don't need to reinvent the wheel and when they do it is at a high price.... of the child... who are the ones they are supposed to be helping (and the parents) .... Which is more expensive than any so called curriculum the ones in charge are buying.

[@SandyJ4321]

The core curriculum math…

[@LaraEdwards-x5p]

You need a PhD in education to unlearn the gut feeling that phonics is obviously the correct way to teach reading. Not to mention spelling in English, one of the hardest languages to spell. Fruit?! ui says oo

[@gloribyrd9259]

The public school system needs to go back to using a phonics based curriculum.

[@truthboomertruthbomber5125]

No money to be made.

[@Olivetree00]

"Are we saying kids shouldn't have pictures in their books? It doesn't make any sense" She's being willfully ignorant.

[@SheilaSmith-z8g]

No, she is NOT saying there should not be pictures in the books. She is saying children must learn phonics, and not rely on pictures to detect a word. We all learned to read and our primary readers had pictures.

[@creative_mindsrus1541]

Because if they can read they can read the truth about our Government and not fall for the lies

[@kimwoodhouse7891]

Why would you ask someone to “guess” when there are principles that allow them to break it down phonetically. Breaking it down allows them to learn what the word is, how to pronounce it, and supports spelling. What happens when they start reading books without pictures? What happens when the words start to become more complicated? How are they supposed to know they’ve guessed right? When students learn by sight, are they able to use the pronunciation key of a dictionary? How do you learn to love to read when reading is boiled down to guessing? How frustrating for students.

[@gregorymalchuk272]

Exactly. They're turning the English language into inscrutable hieroglyphs!

[@angelamarie8634]

This is what you do when you want children to grow up uneducated. It’s purposeful. Public school should be called the farm since it mass produces sheep.

[@sr2291]

You don't want them to learn to read?

[@ankavoskuilen1725]

When I was at university, I sometimes looked for information in books written in languages I didn't know. That is the only case in which I think guessing can be useful. Ofcourse there were no pictures but I tried to find words which could refer to the subject I was studying. When I thought it might be information I needed, I tried to find someone who could translate. Notice that I wasn't reading!!!!!!!!!!! Guessing is not reading.

[@cecedubois5147]

Breaking a word down phonetically also instills a sense of mastery in the young reader. "Guessing" at words sets kids up for failure. Terrible.

[@feefee2]

Funny...i actually stopped using the things with pictures when teaching my daughter because she was guessing the words from the pictures.

[@OutragedPufferfish]

Well done, Fee Fee 🤗

[@J.Anita24]

My son was as well. They pushed sight words. I had to go back and teach him phonics. He is getting better but still struggling. I started his little brother with phonics now he is 3 grades ahead. 😢 I wish I started my 1st baby with phonics

[@feefee2]

@J.Anita24 keep working with him! I'm old so I didn't know what a sight word was and just did the regular letter sounds. She's in kindergarten now and they are doing sight words but I had already taught her to sound out words. So if she can't remember the word she sounds it out

[@lovetobe6118]

Yep, same with my mother. When she figured out they didn't teach phonics she decided to not have me attend school and tutored me at home. When I finally got sent back to school I was six reading levels above my peers.

[@jordanwhite5470]

Exactly. We homeschooled, but because our artistic child was constantly distracted by the beautiful pictures (Abeka), we ended up going with Rod & Staff; which is a basis skills bare-bones approach to teaching (used by many Amish). It worked; we got used to focusing on the subject.

[@kristi1894]

Not being able to choose curriculum and teaching strategies that work for individual students is why I left teaching in a school. I started my own business teaching students reading and spelling one-on-one and saw much greater success.

[@deekang6244]

That administrator was horrible. Fire that woman. By the way, can she read?

[@ankavoskuilen1725]

I don't know if she can but she certainly didn't if she doesn't even knows what the method consists of.

[@aggravatedHart]

You have to sound out the words. Wtf is this?? I was raised in GA and we sounded out the words. Never heard of this other thing.

[@karlrovey]

That's because the methods used in "Reading Recovery" are relatively new and have only been widespread for about 15 years.

[@kimberlyhovis5864]

Well, I don't know if the Reading Recovery program existed when I was a kid back in the 1989 through 1991 school years, but I remember being given a book in both Kindergarten and 1st Grade and told to guess at each word. When my mom asked my first grade teacher about phonics, she told her that no one teaches that anymore. So, naturally, I ended 1st grade, not knowing how to read. Out of frustration, my mom pulled my siblings and I out of the public school system, and by the end of the following school year, I had caught up to my reading grade level with the Hooked on Phonics program. With that said, I'm glad that you were taught how to read correctly, but teaching without phonics has been around for at least over 30 years in the US public education system, unfortunately. You would think they would have figured out by now that teaching kids reading without phonics doesn't work, smh. Our public education system is broken.

[@kimberlyhovis5864]

​@karlrovey , public schools didn't teach phonics over 30 years ago either. I was simply given a book and told to guess at each word when I was in kindergarten and 1st grade. This was back in the late 1980s and early 1990s.

[@lilylittlemonster5]

@@kimberlyhovis5864 I remember it being instructed that way in the 1970's.

[@Flipper86]

⁠@@karlroveyNot true at all. Been around for over 25 years. Came from New Zealand/Australia before that. 😂

[@valeriefox-armes9644]

Started reading with both my children from the time they were newborns, running my finger under the words as I read them (just as my Mom did for my sisters and I). They were both reading on their own by the time they were three.

[@BrandilineMelt]

Homeschool mom here. I used phonics to teach my kids to read successfully. Even my child with dyslexia was successful. We went to church and I had teachers comment on how well all my children read. My dyslexic daughter read better than the public school children. This is just sad. It's all about the money.

[@airicastarwall1349]

My brother is a bit autistic, he was 4 or 5 before ehe finally grasped the alphabet, but years later through homeschooling he's a decent reader. Slow and doesn't like it but he can read. I get that homeschooling is not for everyone and not every parent can or should homeschooling but please do spend time with your kids and their schooling and help them along.

[@rainey1987]

Not sure why you want to teach your kid to read if you're just going to take him to church and fill his head with a bunch of bull crap

[@jordanwhite5470]

@@rainey1987 How sad that you have such an opinion.

[@rainey1987]

@@jordanwhite5470 not an opinion. It's just fact. If she said she was taking her kid to a scientology center youd be clutching pearls and decrying her as a cult follower. But cuz?she said church its differnt ? Nope. Still just bs indoctrination

[@bettyhussong7527]

As a former special education teacher, phonics is the key to reading. They took phonics out of the schools over 20 years ago and is just now using it again.

[@KarlaAkins1]

This is awful. Context can definitely be used for children with auditory processing issues, but for typical students, phonics is always best for learning to read in English.

[@jessicamontaperto810]

I have dyslexia, severe form, using book marks to help spell the words out & clay words I recommend them.

[@Ketowski]

@@jessicamontaperto810 So you suggest using clay to help shape the words or letter?

[@lazygardens]

You can use context (pictures and/or surrounding words) AFTER you learn to read, to figure out a word or two, but you can't start with that.

[@travcollier]

​@@lazygardensYeah... That's pretty much the problem here. Sight reading is what most people transition to after they figure out how to read with "sounding out". Teaching kindergarteners sight reading is like trying to teach algebra before basic arithmetic. FWIW: I think it is actually a good idea to introduce the idea of sight reading early (as well as algebra), but you really have to get the basics down before it makes sense.

[@Ketowski]

@@lazygardens Maybe. Most kids use pictures for reference when they’re read to. Many memorize the story. Most people can use sounding out to learn, but apparently not everyone. Various people with dyslexia and sensory development issues have commented on here. It’s understandable when we look at it from their perspective.

[@annelieseharrison9027]

My sons school uses sightwords. I remember learning about it when my son started kindergarten. He had to bring home a list of words he needed to memorize. I said theres no way im going to rely on them to teach my son how to read. My son is in grade 4 and he's the highest reading level of all his classmates. His classmates are at 3rd grade reading while my son is at 5th grade reading level. My son has been the highest level in all of his grades for the past 4 years.

[@kimberlyhovis5864]

I don't understand. How is it not obvious that when you tell a child not to sound out the words and to instead look at the pictures for context clues, those kids are still going to struggle with reading? Who the heck invented that program thinking that it was a good idea?! Forgive my insensitivity, but the stupidity here is beyond comprehensible.

[@bellfaith1065]

By design

[@bellfaith1065]

By design

[@bellfaith1065]

By design

[@wakeuppeople777]

I grew up with parents who read the newspaper everyday. As soon as I was old enough to hold it and pretend to read, my dad would pass a page to me. I was three. Reading has opened up worlds that I would never have had access to otherwise. My mom read to me before I was born because of a study she saw in a magazine about how it influences a child’s ability to understand and love the written word. We always had books. I say all of this to make one important point. It starts at home. We can’t rely on the school system to give our children what they need. Get your children good old paper and ink books. Put away the devices that talk to them and have real conversations. It teaches them language skills and self expression. Be patient and diligent, there will be great rewards for you and your child 💖

[@goodmeasure777]

Same here. I'm GenX and both parent's would read the newspaper. My Dad would have us read a paragraph. "You have to be familiar with current events" Phonics taught me to sound out Menachem Begin and Anwar Sadat. (Prime ministers of Israel and Egypt, at the time). Honestly, is it just Millennials or GenZ teaching in schools these days? My children are adult so I have no idea.

[@wakeuppeople777]

@ Those are good memories! We were taught and challenged. I don’t have any little ones in school now either so I’m not sure who’s doing the teaching. I do have a younger sister who teaches, however she is old school because of our parents. I think a lot of teachers are being discouraged from teaching the basics. The school administrators want them to only concentrate on what will be on tests so their numbers look good and they qualify for funds. The children are no longer the focus. That’s why it’s important that parents take responsibility. I’m not sure what generation these teachers are from, but I would not be willing to leave it all up to them.

[@jeannasmiley5712]

100% here! All my children heard me reading to them before and after they were born. Precious memories that have served them well.

[@helendancelot]

The point was made that kids can be reading and the school reverse the progress

[@wakeuppeople777]

@@jeannasmiley5712 Well done! It’s definitely a foundational skill that is truly valuable. If children start school already having that basic skill, it makes the other subjects less difficult for them to understand.

[@veronicaharwick9013]

Unless we want our children trapped at the 1st grade level in reading for the rest of their lives, I suggest people ban this so-called "Reading Recovery Program" immediately. This methodology is clearly harmful & frustrating to children and destructive to all future endeavors in their education. 😔

[@MommaBao]

On the first day of my son reading, I saw he was trying to read from looking at the picture. Immediately I had him try to read something without pictures

[@melisaco79]

I don’t know if anyone remembers the old vhs and dvds of Hooked On Phonics, but that’s what I used for my kids (now 26, 23 and 15) and they all are avid readers and writers. My kids were in LAUSD. When I noticed the schools falling short I took initiative and taught my kids myself on my days off and we made lifelong learning a part of our lifestyle. We go to the library together, discuss literature and they share their writing with me.

[@TexasRiverGirl]

We had that program, it was kind of expensive. I have know idea where it ended up over the years.

[@m.appleton9956]

The rest of the country learned about this from Sold A Story in 2020. Where has Georgia been?

[@kimcowling3296]

The teacher is telling the child to stop sounding out words?!?! WTF was that teacher thinking. She can’t be that stupid. After all how did she learn to read? Sheesh.

[@SENSEF]

RIGHT?! That's how she learned - guaranteed!

[@buvkyy]

listening to this makes me feel so much better about myself. I was taught to guess in everything like language and math. When I started taking piano lessons in high school, my teacher told me to stop “guessing”. Its taken me years to rethink how to learn on the piano. I feel like i have been deconstructing my brain in how to best study and learn in college. I now understand that its not me thats stupid, its the way I was taught.

[@sandyjuntunen4088]

HOMESCHOOL parents. Don't listen to these bozos!

[@gabegood8989]

yeah because homeschoolers don't come out as creepy kids/teens then creepy adults

[@Mombrain006]

@@gabegood8989well-adjusted, intelligent, self-sufficient, and able to socialize with any age group. There. I fixed it for you.

[@pooksmagoo6521]

@@gabegood8989they don’t actually! If you get them into sports and social experiences. Homeschool kids come out way more well rounded than the kids going to public school. Most kids in public school have gone through bullying, anxiety, depression and other trauma due to the lack of accountability and discipline in schools. Public schools kids are anxious, depressed, gender confused and apparently can’t read. But the homeschool kid weird. Only children give homeschool kids are weird as a response, most adults with kids realize school systems are shit.

[@babyluv3868]

You’re right, they don’t. My husband was homeschooled and has since taught himself all of the trades, can build houses, rebuild engines, do any mechanical work, and he’s a great speaker and definitely not creepy. He’s the best :)

[@kathycournoyer5868]

​@@babyluv3868 I agree home schooling allows the student to also learn real life skills, we switched to homeschooling because the way the schools are run. Thankfully we have places where home schooling students get to meet and interact and parents get to know each other and help if a parent is having trouble with a lesson.

[@avalasialove]

It’s even more unfortunate that none of the higher ups in education are willing to take responsibility for this flawed method. Instead they’ll just keep blaming iPads and calling parents lazy.

[@SewingBoxDesigns]

They call parents lazy, then sic the FBI on them when they advocate for their children.

[@abeiradapraia]

It’s both-parents are lazy, and the public fool system curriculum is awful.

[@EagleRue]

Reading phonetics. I learned to read this way and I have dyslexia and dyscalculia. We had a HUGE box that we got the kit in the mail- cards; phonetics it was amazing. The SRA Reading Laboratory was a series of kits that taught reading using phonetics in the late 1970s and early 1980s

[@jessicamontaperto810]

As a young with severe dyslexia I never got phonics it doesn’t work for all students with dyslexia or all students with dyscalculia.

[@goodmeasure777]

@EagleRue, Can you share how you were tested/assessed for dyscalculia?

[@jonathanjones3126]

​@@jessicamontaperto810did you get specialist help to overcome it?

[@DistractedDaisy]

I had a lisp and the school tried to help me get rid of it with Phonics in the 70’a! I was an awesome speller, speaker, and I am a pronunciation master! I have to fight not to correct every young person I work with ! They don’t appreciate the knowledge! It’s very sad!

[@karinwetzel1773]

Pictures? Pictures?? What happens when the student has to read a book without pictures? This is insane!

[@V_Hayden7]

Thanks Atlanta News First for bringing attention to this ongoing issue! I hope it gains traction! If I was a parent in Georgia I would demand Douly's resignation! Phonics don't seem to be taught anywhere today. When I discovered this I was flabbergasted. When I learned that reading scores in the U.S. were falling, I knew this was the reason. I grew up with phonics and could read by the time I entered kindergarten. As the saying goes, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"! 😏

[@nonyabidness5708]

Same! I was always the helper at reading time because I already knew how to read and I didn't go to pre-school... just had a mom who read me a ton of books!

[@SheilaSmith-z8g]

Learning to read starts with learning the sound of each letter in the alphabet. Learning the sounds of each vowel is essential, then all the consonants. There is NO other way to teach reading. Parents: There are online programs to teach reading the proper way.

[@fattoria_di_bastoni]

Without phonics forget about it. Reading is ESSENTIAL for a successful life. We’re approaching 2025 not 1825. It is also important for children to see their parents reading regularly.

[@elmadixon8293]

When I was five years old I begged anyone I had contact with to teach me to read, I was so curious what the story book was saying I wanted to read it myself. My mother told me I would be taught when I started school ,but it was s struggle to learn to read because the school taught sight reading not phonics. My first grade teacher was so frustrated with me it turned unto abuse and my mother thinking I wasn't bright lost interest in me as her child. In fifth grade my school required students to start a foreign language , I choice Spanish. My Spanish teach saw I was struggling to read Spanish and she realized I was not taught phonics. So the teacher took a few minutes over just a few days to explain that letters make sounds and so on. In turn I could read Spanish beautiful ,but knowing what the words ment was a whole other thing. In short I learned to read my native language, in my native country by being taught phonics by my Spanish teacher in order to learn Spanish. It is crazy!! When I had children I did not trust them to the public school nor my local private school because the schools taught sight reading, I home schooled. I think the reason the schools do not teach phonics is because they want the kids in America to fail. There cannot be any other reason!

[@cheryllwaldrop9732]

If you cannot read, or comprehend what you read, you have to take their word for everything. Simple as that.

[@brin3m]

if you are a parent of a very young child start teaching phonics now. it is simple. start with picture books that have one word below the picture. get a library card and take your kid to story hour. phonics books i used: Bob books, and any books that have the words repeated a lot in the beginning such as Dr Seuss' "Hop on Pop". ' When you go to the library ask the librarian for first reader books. Librarians are the best in helping you find the right book for each reading level. Read to them at home! oh and we also got books on tape, back then you would borrow a book that had a tape recording with it and your child would use a tape player and follow along by turning the page when a sound was made. i had the kids use their finger on the sentences as the person was reading it. OH and the best advice i was given was buy books about things your child shows an interest in such as cars, trucks, food, building, crafting, animals, nature, clouds. good luck!

[@shanat7]

This Doctor of Ed. from GSU is full of it.

[@annai157]

Get the 1955 book, *Why Johnny Can't Read* by Rudolph Flesch. It has the ideal road map for teaching reading. I implemented the method it describes. Phenomenal results. Can't recommend it highly enough.

[@TrialAndError8713]

Oh, wow. That reading recovery "teacher" in Kentucky should have been pulled out of the classroom IMMEDIATELY!

[@rootsrocksfeathers1975]

RIDICULOUS! We taught our sons how to read before first grade with PHONICS. It's easy and effective. Then schools went to sight reading, just knowing words. If he'd never seen a word, with sight reading, the kid had no idea it to figure it out. GO BACK TO PHONICS! But, parents don't seem educated enough to know that, either. Learn phonics, period. This three cueing method is stupid as hell. No wonder high school grads cannot read as well or me or my two sons could by second grade. You cannot live well if you cannot read. It's BASIC.

[@jenniferpollard9571]

The phonics approach is empowering.

[@rootsrocksfeathers1975]

@@jenniferpollard9571 It is and the only reason I can think of to push a nonsensical program like this three cue thing is that someone is lining their pockets by selling it to school systems. Why else stop using the tried and true? Always follow the money.

[@AshGreen359]

in 1979 phonics was taught and I struggled with it. Turns out I'm dyslexic and I didn't learn to read until the second grade. I repeated the second grade and was taught sight reading. By the time I was in third grade I was well above grade level in reading. Phomics makes sense in other languages where words are spelled phoenetically in general. English is a mess of a language that breaks it's own rules over and over. That being said, phonics is still useful but in the end everyone needs a combination of the two. Some kids learn better one way and other kids the other. Forcing one method of learning in everyone is beyond stupid.

[@slidegirl9166]

The “I See Sam” series was a wonderful phonetic system was great for my kids.

[@orbitalchild]

As somebody who's dyslexic and went through an intensive Orton Gillingham program that allowed me to learn to read and who has a dyslexic child who also went through an Orton Gillingham style program I will never understand people's reluctance to just fucking teach phonics

[@lynnealuebben1967]

Phonics AND context clues work together. ANY strategy that helps the child is good. Never stop a student when using their own strategies to learn. I can not understand why that teacher would stop the student from sounding it out.

[@karenhaley3444]

I learned to read through phonics. Worked great. Always has. Always will. I was stunned, years back, when schools stopped using the phonics method. I taught my girls how to read very early using phonics. They were reading two grade levels above when they started elementary school. I was called to a parent teacher conference for my youngest daughter, who was in 8th grade at the time, where her teacher complained she was reading a popular novel on her break. I knew my daughter was reading it and had no objection to the contents. I asked the teacher what grade level she considered the novel. She said," Well, 11th or 12th." I said, "So you are complaining that my daughter is reading four grade levels above her age?" Unbelievable.

[@susanrjohnson5134]

From my clinical experience with children, this type of whole-word “Sight-reading” (Taught by Reading Recovery) is just a skimming and scanning skill, recognizing a word by its first and last letters and the words overall length and shape (while associating the words shape, length, and identity of its first and last letters to a specific picture representing the word). This “sight” type of reading does not represent true reading because it blocks simultaneous inner-imaginative picturing, which occurs in the same Right/Pre-Frontal brain areas used to recognize words by “sight”. Phonetic-based reading (sounding-out words) occurs in a different brain area (L-Parital brain area) than sight-reading, and therefore allows for simultaneous inner-imaginative picturing of a scene or creation of an inner-imaginative movie”on the R-side of the brain, the same area used to memorize words by “sight-recognition”. This also assumes that the neurological pathways of bilateral-integration pathways are fully developed, between the two sides of the brain (I.e. child or teen can easily cross-lateral skip, forwards and backwards, while speaking an unfamiliar tongue-twister and can do a double-jump for every single swing of a rope that they twirl for themselves, forwards and backwards. Fluent sight-readers may also have problems spelling, punctuating, learning grammar and capitalization rules, in addition to impacting their comprehension and long-term memory for what was read, and especially making math and science word-problems difficult to understand (unless the problems are read out loud to the child, teenager, or adult). This my clinical experience as a mom, whose son had severe learning challenges because of being taught fluent sight-reading, and as a holistic, behavioral and developmental pediatrician for 40 years (now emeritus), and as a certified Waldorf Teacher for the past 25 years.

[@gregorymalchuk272]

The phonetics is the key to literacy. Sight reading is a higher skill that comes naturally once kids are phonetically literate. Without phonetic literacy, there is no literacy.

[@susanharris3092]

The best way to teach children to read is to read to them daily from birth. Even students with dyslexia and other learning disabilities do better are learn to read faster when this is done. Waiting until school age is too late. Also, what works for some students doesn’t work for others so teachers need to employ a variety of methods…banning one method of teaching in favor of another doesn’t work. I am speaking as a former 1st/2nd grade teacher as well as a parent.

[@DovieRuthAuthor]

Retired special education and reading teacher here. We found Read Naturally to be very beneficial. The students enjoyed it as well.

[@Ketowski]

So, would you admonish students for sounding out a word? Maybe it was the delivery that was the issue. Also, what research proves that it’s effective?

[@Thedesertcouple]

@@Ketowski no read naturally is a phonics based program so they wouldn’t admonish students for sounding out words.

[@nightreader1264]

You teach phonics and you have the red word. The red words you cannot sound out- you just have to memorize them. These words go along with the phonics. The kids will tell you that those are the words that we cannot sound out. If you have ever worked with kids that have Dyslexia- they need phonics.

[@roselynn816]

This is so messed up. This is pure evil. Teach kids whatever way works for that child! Why would we ban any teaching way?

[@Vesnicie]

Why are they purposefully making kids mentally brittle and less able to face challenges?! It's sick and profoundly cruel.

[@jordanwhite5470]

Uneducated "sheep" are easier to fool and misdirect.

[@Ohio_Memory_Bears]

This is definitely the dumbing down of American children. I was able to teach both my disabled children how to read and they are excellent readers and can even read better than their typical peers and we did all phonics. Go back to the old way of teaching and you’ll have smarter children.

[@mauchkimberly]

She speaks propaganda fluidly. You can tell by the slow speech, like she's speaking to a small child.

[@patriciahein8233]

I taught 50 years. I have been through all the fads. I taught phonics even when I was told not to do reading instruction that way, even reprimanded. There is nothing wrong with asking a child a child if their word choice makes sense in the context. However, the “sounding out” should come first and then the confirmation with the context. The child becomes a sight reader and picture reader. You cannot memorize enough words to become a fluent reader. As you become proficient at phonics, you then memorize words used often, and begin to recognize the exceptions to phonics rules. The labored sounding out becomes less frequent and the child reading smooths out allowing the brain to then concentrate on comprehension. That is why a young child will often not be able to tell you much about the page he just read, because all of his brain power is focused on discovering the words. Frequent rereading of stories for different purposes is helpful. Reading favorite stories over and over is a great way to help a child learn to read. Phonics is an absolute necessity!!!

[@sonyacooper8420]

They need to put hook on phonics back in schools.

[@HSR-bk5qb]

I don't remember hooked on phonics being in schools. It was mainly sold as a private system for parents.

[@tylerbhumphries]

@@HSR-bk5qb”Hooked on Phonics” the product/business was not in schools but phonic learning was used in schools. I was a Hooked on Phonics kid. I learned to read before pre-school because my parents bought the big box set with the books and flash cards. That would have been in 1999/2000. I also watched a lot of educational programming on PBS such as Reading Rainbow. This year, I found out most kids are learning to read using the cueing method now and I was stunned. How do you learn to read new words if you don’t know how to sound them out? Ridiculous.

[@voulathomacos-lagonas8445]

KNOWLEDGE WILL SET YOU FREE.... GRAMMAR.....SYLLABLES ....and BASICS ....you cannot build a house without having sound foundations...the same exists with reading and writing .....

[@charzemc]

Parents are first teachers so maybe home schooling is the only way to ensure that their children are getting a quality education.

[@szoenzsoenmiles62]

In pedagogy course in university, they told us which way was best to teach how to read, weird how now it's banned for "better" solutions

[@sclubb-r5o]

These parents can find plenty of basic phonics reading programs to teach their own children to read with proficiency in a very short time. I personally know about this! I used the ACE phonics program designed for very young kids just learning to read. My child had problems reading for years and at 12 years old we did this phonics coarse and it was like magic! No matter the age they can do this! My other advice to parents is to pull kids from public school if you want them to to have a well rounded common sense education instead of being a victim of public school educational hairbrained experimental ideas! Parents should always check out the curriculum schools are using before allowing their kids to be subjected to harmful and ridiculous educational theories. Parents need to get involved and if they get no results move your kid OUT………I did just that!

[@Ketowski]

Sounds good. Many parents are struggling with basics like working, etc. not everyone has the options you suggest.

[@TwisterTornado]

"Course", not "coarse". You used the one that means "rough".

[@TwisterTornado]

I used Hooked on Phonics and I could read by age 3.

[@goodmeasure777]

My grand daughter just turned 4, and I'm trying to convince her Mama, that I want to teach her phonics and even home school her.

[@TwisterTornado]

@@goodmeasure777 You can always tutor, and if nothing else, start reading stories together. If you think that they might be getting too old for that, there are also audiobooks, so they can listen and follow along.

[@johnrobison4635]

Without a good background understanding in phonics once a student graduates from their vocabulary program in primary school they no longer have the tools or ability to learn new words. It is extremely important that people can continue to develop their language skills throughout their lifetime as without a developing vocabulary they begin losing their ability to comprehend the world around them. If reading proficiency is frustrating then reading as a means of gathering information is extremely limited in their postgraduate abilities. This has far reaching consequences for society as a whole.

[@cateclism316]

Phonics is old school, so it's out of vogue. The only problem is, it works!

[@cheryllwaldrop9732]

It's only a problem if you don't want it to work.

[@cherismith5707]

The bureaucrats "believe that it works", but the parents (who live daily with the children) can see that it clearly doesn't.

[@kathycournoyer5868]

The school system is failing because they are not even trying to make sure students know how to write legibility and forget cursive handwriting. I got told by school system that they don't even assign homework of writing out spelling words, something I KNOW has worked for years,yet they assign words that many high school age students can't spell, to FOURTH GRADERS! Glad we're homeschooling now.

[@bitrudder3792]

good for you! I find it so interesting that one of my daughter's best friends was also homeschooled in the sense that she spent years doing ballet and had a tutor on the side. My daughter was one of the few people that had a decent vocabulary, compared to the run-of-the-mill school the kids she knew. We just always had lots of books around, read aloud a lot for fun. Did audiobooks in the car a fair amount of the time. Phonics, yes. She did have some visual and auditory learning challenges, but we definitely got around those as well. and even with those, the examiner was shocked that her language skills were a couple years beyond where her grade would have her, when every other child that they tested with her problems were multiple grades behind. When she found out we homeschooled, she understood. Parents don’t give up. She said if our child had been in school they would’ve simply passed her forward without dealing with it until it hit the crisis point. I get it. I knew something was off and I kept asking the former school teachers in our homeschool group if they were seeing anything to clue us in as to why she was struggling with certain subjects, but all they could see was how cooperative and pleasant she was to be around and that she accomplished what she was asked to do. The depth of the problem didn’t reveal itself until she had to start writing paragraphs. Then we found the help we needed, got some clarity, and were able to deal with that. The neuro developmental expert had a brain training program that worked really well, got it done in a number of months. No more tears during compositions! Her writing is beautiful.

[@SENSEF]

Handwriting doesn't matter. As adults working real jobs, how often do you write anything by hand? Typing matters. Signed by typing - Fellow Homeschooling Mom

[@bitrudder3792]

@@SENSEF - Touch typing has been one if the most valuable skills gleaned from my public education. I haven't seen THAT taught in public schools yet, and I see a lot of hunt-and-peck going on. (Maybe some schools are teaching touch-typing?) And while useful, typing (touch or not) doesn't have the same brain-building effect as learning to write with their hands. Cursive is more helpful for building accurate speed than basic, separate-letter manuscript-style printing. Writing helps brains develop. It is also important for being able to easily take notes and compose when devices, or the electricity to power them, are not available - or when we simply don't want to use those tools. Having things written or printed on paper can be invaluable. There is also No security of data online anymore, anywhere. It might be secure-ish today, but cyber-security continues to be a big problem. We may not need to write with our hands very often in our JOBS, but our lives are more than our jobs.

[@historianKelly]

​@@SENSEFAs an academic who became a college instructor, I handwrote in cursive all the time & still do. Printing takes too long, and there's no way you can type on someone's paper or test - impossibility. Also, no matter how many times I try drafting an essay at the computer, if I don't print it out & write down my corrections, which are usually pages long, it's going to be crap. Humans aren't machines. We need the tactile experience of pen/pencil in hand to help thoughts flow. This idea you're spouting is the death of creativity.

[@ellenraysmith4391]

A reading method that relies upon interpretation of graphics and pictures associated with the text is a failure by definition. If you need a picture to help you understand what the text is saying - you are not reading, you are not comprehending the text. You are GUESSING what the text says with the assistance of symbolic divination.. No lawyer, no doctor, no accountant, no academician, no scientist relies on picture books to understand what they are reading. And frankly, the “PhD from Georgia” struck me as an idiot. When asked why she supported or didn’t support a particular reading approach, her response was always begging the question: Well, we don’t think the research supports that. Numbers don’t lie. Most of Georgia’s 4th Graders cannot read. Explain THAT lady.

[@amysolley4268]

And this is why my children did so much better with me. My English comprehension isn't expert or anything, but by god I can read. They learned from me.

[@barbarabrooks4747]

Phonics using lots of rhyming words helps students be aware of the sounds and letters. We teach reading too young. Many students aren't ready until age 6 or 7. Others are ready at age 4. We need to divide up students by reading ability so that early readers aren't their back. Students not ready to read can learn to listen and answer detailed questions, edit letters and say sounds and practice drawing to improve coordination. Finland's schools are #1, but they don't teach reading until age 7.

[@olesyakonovalova592]

If any of you have kids who cannot read yet, try "The Logic of English" by Denise Ede. Mine started reading at 3,5. Remedial of older kids doing sight words worked with the Logic of English as well. They are readers and good writers now in high school.

[@orborn3580]

Simple phonics..”when two vowels go walking, the first one does the talking”…brilliant, yet simple. It is so infuriating when the so called experts want to reinvent the wheel and fix something that was never broken 😡😡

[@MNP208]

No good teacher says “stop doing that” to a child when they are learning. 🙄 Parents, start playing phonics games with your kids at a young age! You can teach your child the letter sounds and the consonant blends (i.e. “st” sound) by playing games at home. My kids learned word families first. 😊

[@DisMindy5767]

If you don't use phonics, you can't read The Jabberwocky. If you can read that, you really can read.

[@madelainebeaute]

Looking at the video is hurting my heart. The American school system is felling our children when it comes to better knowledge. It is like they want the future generations to be dumb.

[@historianKelly]

Luckily, so far, 19 states have decided their children deserve better. 31 other states need to stop this poo of turning America into a 3rd-world country.

[@Flipper86]

Had a second grade student come to a parochial school from public school. Strong family history of dyslexia and diagnosed with ADHD. 12 weeks of Reading Recovery, they assessed him for special ed. I had him read CvC words (hat, tip, cut) for time. He read 8 in 3 minutes. He could not blend or segment these simple words. By 5th grade, he was close to reading at grade level. Don’t get me started on how Reading Recovery is implemented in my district. . .waste of time and resources.

[@tashaburgess3753]

I really just don’t understand WHY is so difficult to teach children to read?? I definitely do not put all the responsibility and blame on teachers. WHERE AND WHAT ARE THESE CHILDREN’S PARENTS DOING IN EARLY YEARS TO PREPARE AND EQUIP THEIR CHILDREN TO BE SUCCESSFUL READERS??? It’s just ridiculous how some parents don’t put in the effort towards their children. You don’t wait until they are in school it starts way before then. My son was an excellent reader and that’s because I took the time to research how would teach him. I put in the EFFORT EVERYDAY to make sure he was on right path to be a proficient reader. Often schools don’t have all the answers nor the best methods to teach your child what they may be lacking. That’s up to you parents to tailor home education to help your children.

[@pmc2999]

And what about the second and third generation of parents who struggle with basic reading themselves? They've already been failed and how are they going to teach their children what they don't even know? And when they believe the "experts" that they should let the "experts" teach their children.

[@dennisgumm7016]

They are working, depending on digital babysitters that literally rot our childrens brains.

[@japeramalwah9797]

The fact that so called educators support this is absolutely disgusting!!! I put my son in private school because of the public education nonsense. Public school educators make it seem like they know best for your child and that there is no way you can know anything. While I respect that that there is a process to education, there are some simplistic approaches to education. I can say this as a parent and as a previous instructor who had to reach a large audience. My son was sorely mistreated in public schools which is why I ensured to keep him in private school because of nonsense like this. It’s a shame that educators have hijacked nonsensical education methods and then support utter foolishness! I don’t have grandchildren yet, but good god, they will not be in public schools!!!

[@AstronomicalLearners]

So important! Glad Gordon state college understands structured literacy.

[@miriamhavard7621]

And people wonder why so many are being homeschooled.

[@xijinbling2373]

"I need a nation of workers ,not free thinkers",John D. Rockefeller

[@alissonvonderlane862]

If these kids want to learn a new language, they have to start all over?!? Sounding it out ables you to 'read' any language using your alphabet.