It kinda sounds like you prefer maker 1 because of the memories you have made with it
@tyresr6 ай бұрын
Updates. Mario Maker 2 stopped getting updates before MM1 for some reason.
@SylkaChan5 ай бұрын
Besides the costumes, SMM2 is clearly better. I wish there would be an SMM3, there isn't enough currently.
@Sonic24prime6 ай бұрын
I’m sad because I only have Mario maker for the 3DS
@starmaster656 ай бұрын
I love both of these games and, while I think Mario Maker 2 might be better in terms of content with the world maker, 3D World theme, and multiplayer, Mario Maker just fits perfectly on Wii U with the GamePad. Amiibo costumes were great too, and it was such a special moment experiencing a game like that for the first time...
@TheHomieLew5 ай бұрын
There was a weird tonal shift from 1 to 2 that I've never really seen anyone mention. 1 used to really incentivize self-growth as a maker/player by offering goals you reach on your own, but in 2 it really expects to pit you in a competition. Everything from the gamemodes to medals tied to a leaderboard to the hard as balls achievements you can show off on your mii makes 2 feel more like a popularity contest which just isn't fun. You can even feel it in the levels. Ever wonder why there are so many "refreshing levels"? Clout Also bring back stacked pipes Nintendo
@FanicTheHedgehogYT7 ай бұрын
You know how sucks Wii U Online-Exclusive shutting because there's no amiibo in SMM2
@Ninjaeule976 ай бұрын
Pretendo is here to save the day.
@Loshkeylen6 ай бұрын
Mario Maker 2 should've had the amiibo costumes. It would've been such a good addition.
@kolkagaming12346 ай бұрын
I agree with you, but having all of them could’ve affected the games memory limit or something.
@splatjam644 ай бұрын
I guarantee you the reason why they removed them was due to multiplayer. It would be confusing having four players all wearing the Luigi amiibo costume, and if that's why they're removed then honestly I'm glad they were. Proper additional characters and multiplayer is a much better trade off.
@MrMajorLeagueGamer2 ай бұрын
They could at least make it as a normal mushroom
@victoralanhernandez68946 ай бұрын
I can honestly agree since I had more memories on mario maker instead of mario maker 2 and I was 6 crazy how a good game can be in your memory
@splatjam644 ай бұрын
I can definitely see valid reasons why someone would prefer the first over the second. For example, there was more engagement with the community with the first game, they would release their own official levels pretty frequently and this would be how most of the amiibo costumes were unlocked. Things like that really helped grow a community around the game, which is something the second game definitely feels like its lacking especially now in 2024. The gamepad also just felt way nicer to build with, the ui just worked so well. The sanitized charm in SMM2 is also another good argument to make, but there's one argument you raised that I just completely flat out disagree with. SMM2 isnt worse because it has too much content, if anything the game suffers from not having ENOUGH. The leap from 1 to two in terms of options was definitely a big leap, but it just wasnt big enough in my opinion. A lot of the features that were added were either things that should've been in the first game to begin with, or things being held back by the way they were implemented. The SMB2 gameplay is a perfect example of a good concept held back by execution, sure the game is objectively better for having it due to giving players more ways to spice up their levels, but its just being a power up instead of a full blown style really brings the whole thing down because if you want to design a level around the mario 2 mechanics, you have to constantly put the item everywhere in your level to ensure the player always has it, which just ruins the difficulty of levels in the most place. Another example that comes to mind of good concepts being held back is the fire spitting yoshis. The red yoshi is cool and all, but why just restrict the fire spitting to a specific yoshi? Wouldn't it be way cooler if they just implemented the SMW color coded ability system instead? Adding all four Koopa and Yoshi colors from SMW and have them behave the same way, would give players so many more options for their levels. There's also infuriating restrictions when it comes to what items can be used in what gamestyle *Cough* Fire Bros *Cough* Clear Pipes *Cough* The lack of options in the first game is more justifiable due to it being the first game and being on an unsuccessful system, but there really was no excuse for this game, especially if there's only one new gamestyle. Limitation does inspire creativity, but there's only so much you can draw with a stick in mud before it dries up. I don't know, maybe I'm just spoiled from SMBX and romhacks, but my biggest issue with SMM2 is that it doesn't feel as innovative as the first, but it's at least a little better than the first due to the added options. 🤷♂️
@overman13815 күн бұрын
i think mario maker 3 should either be a 3d engine, or could introduce scripting as well as sprite editing, and really anything else like that if nintendo wants to not have to release another sequel in atleast 10 years
@mioarajitca36686 ай бұрын
Nintendo should start to listen to their fans
@Rediscool96 ай бұрын
The hell does that have anything to do with this video in question?
@murrum38906 ай бұрын
You’re right Nintendo should start to listen to their fans.
@mioarajitca36686 ай бұрын
@@Rediscool9 yeah, the fact that if nintendo listened to their fans they would've known how to make a better game
@DavidHerrera-vb1qx5 ай бұрын
@@mioarajitca3668 Mario Wonder: 🗿 Tears of the kingdom: 🗿 Mario RPG remake: 🗿
@CyberSurfingHedgehog5 ай бұрын
Why should they?
@Stix19x6 ай бұрын
6:19 When are we getting that spotify release, SF Productions?
@minionmadness92025 ай бұрын
Bro's complaining that the sequel has more content. At this point I don't think anything can please this man😂.
@SFproductions15 ай бұрын
im not complaining what
@minionmadness92025 ай бұрын
@@SFproductions1 Then what was the point of this video? The sequel is abjectively a better game. Aside from the lack of amibo costumes.
@SFproductions15 ай бұрын
I'm just giving my opinion that's all. You don't have to agree with me
@placeholder_7-lud4 ай бұрын
I grew up with the 3ds version and I have so many memories with that, but alas, I have even more memories with SMM2, I was so hyped for that game and it's my most played game of all-time (by a large margin, SMM2 on 900+ hours and my second most MK8D is only at 300+ hours), I don't really have any experience with the Wii U version, except from once at a friend's house and a few times on an emulator, but the memories I have with both SMM3DS and SMM2 will make no amount of arguments surpass what these 2 games gave me
@we_are_legends_42356 ай бұрын
Yeah, I agree with the Mystery Mushroom being removed being a problem with the sequel, because although I technically have the first Mario Maker, I have the port that you said you don't talk about (the 3DS one).
@XehanortX26 ай бұрын
Nah I like MM2 more. But I hate how they pretty much gave up on updating the game, MM1 got so many updates and had events and stuff. If MM2 got updated at least for another year or two, it would be one of the best Mario games ever made.
@tzarg2 ай бұрын
6:44 …what, the touch screen still works on the switch version though. Idk maybe it's more convenient in the original, I haven't actually made a level in SMM1 for a long time so maybe that's what you're talking about
@epicon62 ай бұрын
You spent 10 minutes saying you prefer the first one, but everything you said just gave points to the sequel. Missing slopes on the original is honestly bad enough that it’s useless.
@AlessandroLoscueva3 ай бұрын
This vid really got me into your channel.
@NintendoFan71415 ай бұрын
I agree, SMM2 just didn't have the same appeal for me, mainly cause the level editing wasn't nearly as intuitive. I had made 75 levels in the first game, and was so excited for 2, and I even bought an amazon stylus that could work with the Switch, but I only ended up making 3 or 4 levels because all the intuitive design had been replaced with menus to manually select everything. Wanna change a koopa's color? You can't just give it a shake, no now you have to hold down on it for a couple seconds to bring up a menu and then select the koopa's color. Genuinely SMM2 feels soulless compared to the first game. I got my mileage out of playing levels in 2, but the creating part of the game was ruined for me, it was so unappealing.
@daddydwaved4 ай бұрын
Ehhhh I personally don’t agree with you of saying SMM2 is soulless, I still think it’s a decent game but I respect your opinion
@TrollmakerOfficial6 ай бұрын
Now try smm2 with mods. we got two whole new styles, nsmb2 nsmbw
@Cacodevidro4326 ай бұрын
Easy, little timmy levels in smm2 are worse
@RosbifChaud6 ай бұрын
I agree with you that SMM1 is better for MAKING levels with the touch screen. But making levels is less than 3% of the time the average players will spend on the games. People will probably make a dozen levels maximum. In that sens, I prefer having more content in the game and bit less intuitive Level Editor. It brings a lot more of variety. Also, yes... losing 100 Mario challenge and Amiibo costumes is a shame... But I love playing coop with my friend in SMM2!
@splaturials91565 ай бұрын
Simply untrue
@daddydwaved4 ай бұрын
Don’t say he’s wrong no opinions are right or wrong, that’s just his opinion.
@DaltonLunday21036 ай бұрын
Finally, I’m not alone on this hill. Mario maker 1 is better and I want to play as Sonic in a Mario game again
@jhsonbi59146 ай бұрын
I never got to experience the "charm" of Mario Maker because I didnt have a Wii U. For me that same charm started with Mario Maker 2 so I never really understood why people loved MM1 over 2 because, like you said, 2 just seemed to have way more content but now I realize that people just feel the exact same way about MM1 that I do for MM2.
@omegaaklx3036 ай бұрын
Rare SF productions L.
@MultiGamer64REAL5 ай бұрын
Mario Maker 2 is a better game on a worse console. Honestly, in terms of graphics and performance the Switch is better, but it lacks charm that the Wii U has and is less convenient (even with it being handheld wherever you go)
@barelyhere72006 ай бұрын
This is a nitpick but it annoys me that you can’t use the night theme in Mario maker 2 without the weird effect that it brings
@HeroQuestFans4 ай бұрын
good points. makes me think of all those homebrew arcade "VS Fighters" created in MUGEN... they were great, but people's character select screens would be ridiculous... character icons the size of a pin and it took forever to find the character you wanted (Marvel Vs. Capcom 2 in the official games to me pretty much hit the limit of having a reasonably large selection that didn't make it ridiculous... because eventually you just want to have a match and not take longer to pick your characters than to have that match that is going to be under 3 minutes)
@3st1nky6 ай бұрын
Nah Mario Maker 2 is better, improves on the first game in every way. Just because there's less easter eggs and no amiibo costumes doesn't mean Mario Maker 1 is better.
@splaturials91566 ай бұрын
Mario maker one is far less limiting with items and contraptions
@3st1nky6 ай бұрын
@@splaturials9156 It really isn't. Plus, Mario Maker 2 has the SM3DW style, new enemies, new course parts, new everything, new SLOPES, a story mode with actual decent levels, and its online still works lol. How is that not an upgrade in every aspect?
@Rediscool96 ай бұрын
@@splaturials9156 Doesn’t automatically make it a better game. There’s far more to Mario Maker than just making levels believe it or not.
@solelak5 ай бұрын
@@Rediscool9Even then, the level playing experience is much better in SMM2. Finding good levels is significantly easier in SMM2 with shorter codes and a more in depth search filter.
@Catohat526 ай бұрын
Banger video as always sf 🔥🔥🔥
@SFproductions16 ай бұрын
You already know 😎
@daddydwaved4 ай бұрын
Eh SFproductions is a okay KZbinr In my opinion, although I don’t agree with some of his hot takes,I respect his opinion but I still think his content just just average😐🙂
@train_go_boom20654 ай бұрын
I miss the overlapping pipes because I could make the the big pipes from mario 3 and mario u
@varietychan6 ай бұрын
There's a degree of wackiness in the original game with crazy sound effects and all sorts of charm. Mario Maker 2 feels more limiting, and the 3d World theme while cool, is ugly af
@daddydwaved4 ай бұрын
Well that’s your opinion,opinions vary
@varietychan4 ай бұрын
@@daddydwaved while your comment is right. I still find it a little rude the way you say it
@daddydwaved4 ай бұрын
Yea I get where you’re coming from, I just wanted to say it because I don’t like when people say their opinions as facts when people have that mindset they will have arguments with other people just to prove that there right
@BabyMaharaja05 ай бұрын
Mario Maker 2 is better by far
@gligarguy40106 ай бұрын
Very rare L take from SF. I'll still stay subbed though.
@splaturials91566 ай бұрын
Hes right mario maker has far more creative options like overlapping pipes
@Rediscool96 ай бұрын
@@splaturials9156 That doesn’t automatically make the game better
@splaturials91565 ай бұрын
@@Rediscool9 kinda does
@Rediscool95 ай бұрын
@@splaturials9156 Believe it or not, there’s FAR more to Mario Maker than just making levels.
@Samazuwhite6 ай бұрын
and the worst part of this, to this day, Mario Maker 2 doesn't have any new content or anything new that we know of. Also Mario Maker 3DS GOAT
@Max_Toons3 ай бұрын
You shouldn’t even count the 3DS port as part of the series. It’s honestly just a demo of the Wii U version.
@aaranthegamer6 ай бұрын
Super Mario Maker 1 was so good, but I always wanted a multiplayer added to the original and maybe even 3ds and Wii u crossplay would’ve made it cooler. It just ended too soon
@topdog231006 ай бұрын
It’s crazy how much Nintendo hates Mario Maker 2. Why did it stop getting updated after 2 updates?
@AdamAlkhasyi22 сағат бұрын
6:26 started
@NotBest7136 ай бұрын
I never played smm1, BUT... smm2 is better just because of that one glitch with a claw and a hammer bro that lets you do insane things (if you know, you know)
@SKIDDYTHEEVIL6 ай бұрын
FINALLY! SOME ONE UNDERSTANDS ME!!!!
@daddydwaved4 ай бұрын
Oh?? Okay🤨😅.
@bradtheceilingfan9968Ай бұрын
There's only one things that's blatantly better on the first 1 and that's downloading levels and editing them
@juicybear19865 ай бұрын
Great video. You hit the nail on the head. Sometimes more is less. This is the same reason why early seasons of fortnite were far superior in my opinion.
@hadi489306 ай бұрын
Put Sonic the Hedgehog Power-up in Super Mario Maker 2 on All Game Styles Like: 1. Super Mario Bros. 1 2. Super Mario Bros. 3 3. Super Mario World 4. New Super Mario Bros. U 5. Super Mario 3D World
@lj6714 ай бұрын
Can't u just use your wii u stylus to make levels?
@Jef2017Offical6 ай бұрын
If there was SLOPES it probably would be better but I only play maker 2 for 3D world mostly
@cyboyentertainment924 ай бұрын
The worst part about MM2 is that it has the best new additions but is still worse than its Wii U predecessor.
@quangamershyguyyz71664 ай бұрын
How is MM2 worse? It’s better than the original in almost every way
@justachipofftheiceberg63134 ай бұрын
I disagree completely, we need a Mario maker 3 for the switch that has every object obstacle and entity from all the Mario games going back to new super Mario Bros DS
@Deltarunefan5645 ай бұрын
As much as there is in 2 i agree in 1 you could turn into lanky mario
@tariqthehedgehog6 ай бұрын
The crew ahhhhhh video💀
@CSTH16 ай бұрын
"More content does not always equal a better experience." Let this man cook
@Traemonzoboi6 ай бұрын
Mario Maker 2 is still a good game in my point of view
@rhapsody26126 ай бұрын
SMM2 is easily the worst of the 3 games. Yes. I prefer the 3DS Port
@umaniezealah6672 ай бұрын
You can't use the wii u or 3ds anymore.
@xliteisaiahhehe6 ай бұрын
I wish this was the case for sonic. I would love to make levels in sonic gameplay. I enjoy sonic way of playing levels more then Mario.
@TheSultan14706 ай бұрын
Mario content on Sanic channel?!
@SFproductions16 ай бұрын
look at my pfp lmao
@TheSultan14706 ай бұрын
@@SFproductions1 Sonic and Knuckles
@StickmanGuides6 ай бұрын
@@TheSultan1470 Are you restarted?
@TheSultan14706 ай бұрын
@@StickmanGuides I would love to get restarted, yes, but no, I haven't restarted. Sounds like a very refreshing experience.
@0n1c4206 ай бұрын
@@TheSultan1470yoooo my fav game, super knuckles odyssey.
@GottaGoFast916 ай бұрын
Super Mario Maker had Sonic Amiibo support. WE KNOW WHICH IS THE GOAT NOW!
@ChibiSteak6 ай бұрын
5:45 fin.
@Cerberus5896 ай бұрын
Mario Maker 2 was a big downgrade from the 1st one for me in terms of personal enjoyment. It’s still good tho.
@yoshisreal6 ай бұрын
Mario Maker getting rid of overlapping pipes for the sequel has got to be the worst mistake in my opinion.
@splaturials91566 ай бұрын
100% AGREED mario maker 1 clears 2 Way better tool kit, in mario maker 1 there were no limitations you could stack pipes have shells inside a spring mario maker 2 feels corporate. Mario maker 2 has more items yet less creative options
@eliezersarcos78136 ай бұрын
Honestly i have to agree the amiibos the custom death sounds when someone falls to their death its easier to make levels and more SM2 is still great But SM1 IS SO MUCH BETTER This is a W TAKE
@Neoniq416 ай бұрын
Bruh u literally CAN use touch controls in MM2
@SFproductions16 ай бұрын
Brother didn't watch the video
@Neoniq416 ай бұрын
@@SFproductions1 It just works
@SFproductions16 ай бұрын
@@Neoniq41 yeah it works but it's not as good since you don't have a stylus
@Neoniq416 ай бұрын
@@SFproductions1 Works perfectly fine for me without any issues. If anything that matter is higly subjective, since it depends on the person's thumb size.
@SFproductions16 ай бұрын
@@Neoniq41 exactly and this video is entirely subjective lol
@eric46366 ай бұрын
HOW DARE YOU!!! SUPER MARIO MAKER 1 IS NOT BETTER THAN SUPER MARIO MAKER 2 BECAUSE SUPER MARIO MAKER 1 IS FUCKING OVERRATED!!! WHY CAN'T SUPER MARIO MAKER 2 GET SOME LOVE BECAUSE SUPER MARIO MAKER 2 IS REALLY UNDERRATED!!!
@murrum38906 ай бұрын
You’re right
@splaturials91565 ай бұрын
Hes wrong
@bradenmedeiros30505 ай бұрын
Im sorry smm2 has too much content
@SFproductions15 ай бұрын
Agreed
@cristoscoutroupis25676 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video. I thought I was the only one that noticed the downgrade that maker 2 was
@30THMAN.6 ай бұрын
I get why SMM1 is better than SMM2, because it just feel better, can't wait when SMM3 came out and you would call it the worst game of all time.
@SFproductions16 ай бұрын
bro i never said i disliked mairo maker 2 i still think its great lol so in no way do i think the next game will be bad
@knowingjordankid6 ай бұрын
I’m just going to stay as a true fact is “more content does not make a game better than others”. Super Mario Maker had an AMAZING experience with than Super Mario maker 2.
@The_Splatgoon6 ай бұрын
More people need to be talking how much better the first Mario Maker is.
@Rediscool96 ай бұрын
No they don’t because it is all entirely subjective at the end of the day. Deal with it.
@3st1nky6 ай бұрын
It isn't tho, Mario Maker 2 has more content and is better in every way
@andersonsansonowski56446 ай бұрын
What is NOT in mario maker 2 is that you can't play as , samus, kirby heck even SONIC THE HEDGEHOG!!!
@JoshuaRodroguez-hz5yb6 ай бұрын
I never had either game because they’re too obnoxious
@MarioandSonicmcqeenАй бұрын
Why would you want less content, if don't mind telling me?🫤