Why The .308 Win Is My Preferred Survival Cartridge

[@chopzmasta07]

Hey Jason! Is it true that you could break the polymer handle on your glock because of your crazy grip strength?

[@darraghkelly1744]

He was always so fond of the .308

[@danpoli5149]

Would love a 30-06 vs 308 video

[@cdexter1987]

I agree 308 is still king

[@johnwayne767]

Glock 43 survival pistol

[@factorybear5264]

I agree with you but I believe 30-06 is better, but for general prep and survival, i believe that one could thrive with a 7.62x39, especially in an sks platform. Having said that, as far as thriving goes, if one didn’t have to worry about competing with others firing at them, I would pick 22lr any day of the week for any application besides combat. As far as carrying capacity and quantity goes, give me a marlin 60 and a couple of bricks of 22lr and I’ll live out the rest of my life happy and healthy.

[@MatteoSixSeventyFour]

For prepping I'd have to side with 556/223 & 762x39. 556 is for obvious reasons. But the 7.62x39 is for some fairly practical ones. Its lighter than the 308/x51, so you can carry more. The 7.62x39 can fill a hunting role easily. If you can take it with 30-30 you can take it with 762x39. And while I'm not the biggest fan of an AR in 7.62x39. It can be done. Which means you can carry 1 rifle that covers both calibers and just about all of your needs. And with the pervasiveness of the AR & AK both types of ammo would have more value in a bartering role. Good video Jason

[@levlev.1028]

30-30 actually has ballistics closer to closer to 200+ grain 308 win load (I mean the bullets BC isn't as good because sectional density...) but like it has 2/3 the drop at 300 yards then 7.62x39 and like 1/3 at 500 yards...

[@MatteoSixSeventyFour]

fps_iron Really wasn't comparing ballistics per se. But as I said if you can reliably take it with 30-30 you can do so with 7.62x39.

[@levlev.1028]

@@MatteoSixSeventyFour I know

[@donalddickins8493]

MatteoSixSeventyFour once again like i told the last guy 308 is only like 1 pound heavier than 7.62 x39.

[@MatteoSixSeventyFour]

+Donald Dickins Well goodie for you. Yes, at 50 rounds there is a 1 pound difference. There is a 9.1 g or .3 ounce difference between the two cartridges. So at 100 rounds it's 2 lbs difference. So I can carry more rounds for the same weight. Or another way to look at it is I can carry fewer rounds for the same weight. Dealers choice, either way. But I have to ask WTF is the point of your comment? If it weights less then I can indeed carry more for the same weight.

[@geraldb4201]

well i do own a 556 in ar platform a remington 742 semi auto in 308 if i can only have 2 guns to do it all then id grab my 12ga pump and my bolt action 30-06 just never really trusted the semi autos as much dont need to worry about gun jams ive got about 500 rounds through my 9mm and it hasent had any problems with it feeding or any jam ups after the first 50 rounds but if it got down to pick your handgun id take a wheel gun

[@nemisous83]

I still think 7.62x39 is a much better all around. Mainly because it's lighter, cheaper, less recoil, the weapon that fires said round is light, and it's still ballistically very capable in a self defense or hunting role. Also touch on your bit about having to carry 200 rounds of .308 its not about how heavy it initally but in the long term. Having done a lot of hiking in both the military and civilian life less is always more in some cases and at mile 5-10 a 1 pound fully loaded AR magazine feels like 10 pounds not only that but it's more energy burned. People fail to realize how many calories you burn hiking or simply walking with your gear.

[@jazon9]

7.62x39 is too heavy compared to what he offers.

[@donalddickins8493]

Nick Graham dude 7.62 x39 is only like 1 pound lighter than 308. Plus you cant even compare 308 to 7.62 x39. 7.62 x39 maxes out around 550 yards, 308 can easily reach to 1000 and possibly a little further. Just think if 7.62 x 39 was the magical best cartridge than why do only 3rd world countries use it.

[@nemisous83]

First off where are you getting the one pound number from? The weight of round or the max loadout weight? Either way a max loadout for an FN FAL is 4 magazines and one in the rifle and the loadout for a AK47 is 6 magazines and 1 in the rifle so just with those number we have concluded that you can carry more ammo with the addition to the rifle in question being lighter. 550 meters is well past the effective range of any average soldier this is proven in ww2 that the average engagement distances where 50-300 meters. Which further justified the redundancy of full sized rifle rounds. While .308 is capable 9f going out to 1000 meters. There are very few people that can be effective at those distances as well as you would be hard pressed to find a self defense scenario where you need to defend your life.....at 1000 meters. Not only that but the ballistics of .308 at short range distances is absolutely pathetic compared to 7.62x39 and 5.56x45 rounds which are designed to tumble,yaw, and fragment. While .308 tends to just ice pick a .30 cal sized hole and causes little tissue damage. Also you final statement is a moot point because you have shown just how obsolete .308 is. How many first and second world countries still use .308 battle rifles???

[@nemisous83]

Terminal ballistics don't lie. This is why m14 wasn't very well received in Vietnam early on because effectively they where carrying more weight less ammo in the jungles than the NVA yielding no real advantage over the superior AK47. The reason the Battle rifle endured on into the latter half of the 20th century is largely due to armies clinging onto them for how cheap they where compared to modern rifles like ak47 and m16's respectively.

[@donalddickins8493]

@Nick 718 its the capability moron obviously 1000 yard shots wont be common.

[@blkrod2549]

Thank you for your thoughts.

[@tenacioustanderson6223]

For me 7.62x39 is what I have most experience with, so I will choose this. 556/223 is also good for my needs. If you have reasons for your preferred choice of caliber, then I don't understand the thumbs down.

[@MatteoSixSeventyFour]

Those would be my choices too. Way I see it An AR with an additional upper in the other covers many needs well. Although if you could only choose one to cover several needs/roles. I 'd go with the x39 as well.

[@playerzero2236]

I love .308 but if I had to choose only one it would be 5.56. I keep green tip and the full copper 55 gr. Green tip is good for barrier penetration and improvised body armour but on spft tissue the 55gr leaves a nasty wound channel. I would prefer being shot with 62gr green tip over the 55 gr. The 62 has a tendency to pass through without much fragmenting. The 55 gr almost always tumbles and shreds into tiny pieces and if it doesn't incapacitate someone immediately, the internal bleeding will deal with them within a minute, maybe a little more. When your adrenaline is sky high you bleed much faster. I don't anticipate having to engage anything beyond 500 meters but keeping a .308 bolt action around with spare ammo is a wise choice. That being said there are two wonderful characteristics of .308. .308 is very accurate. If you can see it. You can probably hit it with 1 maybe 2 shots if you have to make adjustments. It's powerful. .308 has what you might consider true stopping power. Not something you ever want to get clapped by. It's a big bullet moving very fast.

[@ДжерретНет]

77gr Sierra match king is better then both of those rounds in 556

[@duckhunter4660]

Really appreciate the wisdom. Have been slightly intrigued by the 6.5 but I think you are right and if I spend more time and money getting to know my 308, any benifit the 6.5 may have will be irrelevant.

[@oldager1662]

Thanks Jason. Keep up the great videos.

[@michaelorlowski2364]

Hey Jason, what's your .308 rifle ?

[@bobinch4858]

Thank you for your perspective on cartridge's. Your Grandpa tought you well and now you teach thousands of us. God bless you.

[@MultiDryder]

This is very similar to why I stick with 9mm instead of 357sig or even 7.62x39 over 6.5 grendal. As much as those calibers are cool they lack availability to make it a logistically viable cartridge even if say you were part of tactical unit like a security contractor where they have bottomless budgets resupplying with you favorite ammo ain't as easy.

[@martinandrews8496]

I agree with u other than primers rn. I can't find large rifle primers at all on line I got into the reloading game a bit late what version of the 308 do u prefer in semi auto?

[@jason135791113]

Love the 2 for 1 video: learn about .308 ammo and how to reload. Great info, thanks!

[@fanman8102]

Me thinks ye have struck a tacticool nerve with all those thumbs down. 223, 300AAC, 7.62x39, 308 or 357 Mag combo? Who cares which you choose? They all have pros and cons. Do your research and choose. For survival “you can only choose one” I prefer the 357 Mag. 308 is an excellent choice if you are a confident shooter at 400 - 600 yards. Not that much open range where I live.

[@jasonblahafirearmenthusias4699]

I used to borrow my grandpa's marlin lever action .357 mag to do a bit of hunting with using hot handloads, and my first pistol was a .357 mag, and if semi-autos were not an option I agree that it is a very versatile caliber for the handloader who wants to have a rifle and sidearm but only one ammo choice. I found it effective for deer and hogs at 50-75 yards in a lever gun.

[@missouripatriot6926]

One con of 308 vs 5.56 close combat 50 yards to 20 yards you can lay down alot of lesd alor quicker

[@theislandretreat4326]

I love my .308s too! What do you like to trim your .308 cases to?

[@MilitiauScom]

the military rifles and ammo are designed to injure and wound, which takes three men off the battle field instead of just one. This is different when it is a sniper shooting high priority targets, they need one shot one kill. Military snipers use............ 30 Cal. yup.

[@legowolf22]

SOCOM and DHS are switching to 6.5CM next year.

[@levlev.1028]

I would agree 100%. Except that you are a 200 lb. stronk guy, I'm a 115 lb. 15 year old male who can deadlift around 140 lbs. In cqb (or anything inside 100 yards) the party who hits the first 3-5 shots wins, I can put 4 5.56s on a 18" steel plate at 20 yards in less then a second. It takes me almost 3 seconds to do that with an AR10... so I guess I only agree 99.99%, sorry :)

[@darkstar7721]

I believe the army should give our solders m1a rifles instead ar15

[@ONLY1JLO]

☝🏽

[@jazon9]

7mm-08 the best. More flat trajectory than .308 win and more powerful than 6.5 creedmoor.

[@elemanjones6804]

308 is definetly king.

[@ONLY1JLO]

Wtf is up with all these downvotes?!

[@jasonblahafirearmenthusias4699]

My trolls who usually stalk my main channel, this is my small side project, are running dislike bots. It doesn't actually hurt a channel. lol

[@ONLY1JLO]

Jason Blaha Firearm Enthusiast Keep that attitude man. Don’t let anything get you down. A lot humans feel better about themselves when they treat each others like trash, no biggie.

[@LovingIdaho]

I love my 308 rifles

[@kylefrost2119]

Yeah man, that’s why every special operations force in the world is constantly trying to find new ways to shave every possible ounce off their kit. It’s because they’re out of shape. Quit talking about stuff in which you’ve never participated.

[@francismarionswampfox3468]

So angry, lol. It's a year later and I have slogged through the shit, my shtf is a Tavor 7 chambered in you guessed it .308. I still do my run with full kit. So...

[@bdm1000]

1. 223/5.56 2. 6.5 Creedmoor 3. 308 Everything else, a distant 4th

[@bobinch4858]

1. 12 gauge 2. 762x51 3. 308 Everything weaker a distance choice.

[@bdm1000]

I think you are overlooking something. Yes, the .308 is more effective at distance, and certainly it is more capable at penetrating armor and barriers, but it is NOT as effective as the 5.56 NATO at stopping someone in close quarter combat because it over penetrates. The bullet is not designed to tumble. It's like comparing a .357 SIG and a .44 magnum. The latter is more powerful, but the former has better stopping capability because it doesn't typically over penetrate.

[@nemisous83]

.308 doesn't even perform better than 5.56 in defeating armor.... Most level III plates will stop standard M80 ball clean in it's tracks yet XM193 will zip straight through it. And when you step up to level III+ then .308 loses all value.

[@MatteoSixSeventyFour]

That only applies in the standard 145 - 150gr and up loadings. In the 110gr to 140gr not so much.

[@bdm1000]

MatteoSixSeventyFour, what only applies?

[@MatteoSixSeventyFour]

Forum and Brim Poor performance in CQB. In lighter loadings over penetration isn't an issue.

[@bdm1000]

Over penetration is always a potential, and thus always a problem in my opinion. .223/5.56 on average will over penetrate even less when considering widely available ammunition in a WROL situation.

[@donttread5916]

/wow lots of dumbs dn 😅...i luv me sum 308/223 👍 .