Why the Atomos Ninja Phone is actually DOPE!

[@PhilHover]

Purchased and returned. 4K firmware has taken forever to launch and will only be 30p. Clamps to hold phone will not accommodate the iPhone 16 pro max in any case so you will need to go without. Thumb screws to lock in phone are difficult. V2 will probably fix a lot of the issues. Streaming and recording work well. Tools are nice.

[@mondobytes]

My understanding is that 4K firmware is right around the corner, not sure if 4K 30 is an iPhone limitation but does suck you can't do 4K 60 or higher. I do agree the thumbscrews are rubbish, I wouldn't say it's a deal breaker but I feel they could have done a much better job considering that so many phone clamps exist that are actually good!

[@MagieLamp]

thanks phil for the actual honest review 🙏 no support for the pro max model is an insane oversight, like how do you not add a few grams of plastic to accommodate all phones

[@aestheticsvideo]

I just wanted to second what @MagieLamp said, no support for pro max is nuts. And it's not like this is cheap either.

[@matsnaps]

I cannot get mine to save directly to my photos app on my iPhone. The only way to do it is to open atomos app, find files, download files, the open Apple files, then save files, and then it saves to my photos app. There has to be a better way surely that’s not right?

[@alfiefriday5338]

@@matsnaps I’m in the same boat. The ninja phone has been the most frustrating piece of tech I’ve used. Also I can’t get the firmware to update.

[@ChrisWilmshurst]

Is there a limitation on the cameras this can record from and is there any plans to record RAW footage? Also, could someone take the 4k footage recorded in this an use it for the final product? is there any quality differences between whats on the SD/CF card compared to the internal recording on the phone?

[@KofiYeboah]

I actually tried this! I left my signal in s log and used the hdr internal pro res, and it actually came out real decent !

[@mondobytes]

Atomos Ninja Phone works with any camera that has an HDMI output and can send a clean signal. As for any plans of recording RAW footage I'm going to guess that's an Apple limitation and not Atomos. I doubt Apple will unlock RAW recording, but one can hope right? As for difference in quality between on board recording and iPhone yes there's a difference, on board will always be better. Heck even when I've done my own testing with Prores external recorders vs internal recording I've always felt internal to be slightly better, this is no different.

[@AndGuz16]

Just watching this now, three weeks after you posted it. Thanks for sharing this video! Is the Atomos iPad adapter real or an Atomos talking point? Can’t find it anywhere. Any insight you could provide would be welcome. Thank you!

[@jaharoni]

much love on the review. i’ve been wanting to love this device but it’s sadly been a brick in a drawer since it came out. the new features that are trickling out are starting to make it worth it but one omission that really bothers me is the inability to record on camera and phone simultaneously. I can even do without touch functionality if only I can hit record in one place and have my files where I want them

[@chromafilmmaker]

Honnêtement je l’ai acheté mais un peu déçu de ne pas pouvoir contrôler la caméra alors que des application comme monitor+ le font c’est vraiment dommage ..

[@RichAesthetic]

Where can the iPad adapter be found? Also, my canon r6 can record HDR PQ not HLG, can can the iPhone record the r6’s HDR PQ as HLG? I know on the Ninja V+ the recording has to match the input from the camera no?

[@The_Idea_of_Dream_Vision]

Glad someone thought of this. I am using hdmi capture card and usb otg which is jus a complicated setup

[@iPhone-Cinematograhy]

Thank you for sharing!

[@JorgeHMartinez]

It does suck it doesnt have a recording feature like record a copy of the camera input onto an SD card. Would ve great to use for the older cameras like the Sony a7S that only did 4K externally. But even a basic 4K backup file would be great.

[@uzielisrael956]

Can you record directly to cloud without recording to your phone in order to save space or are you forced to use your phone storage?

[@sturm3n]

I have one, and it is nice, but I wish there was the ability to monitor with a LUT. Also, I wish I could plug an SSD into the accessory USB-C port and record my ProRes 422 HQ to the SSD.

[@mondobytes]

I feel the LUT monitoring might come with a firmware update, I agree on being able to use an SSD into the accessory USB-C port. I’m not sure if that’s an Apple limitation or they just haven’t thought about it. As someone who uses an SSD with my iPhone I’d say this is definitely something I’d like to see in the future.

[@iamsteveolson]

I use the Accsoon version. It does work well, but the number issue I have is that if you film in sunlight, then the iPhone screen dims and makes it completely unusable. Went back to a normal monitor. This isn’t the fault of the atomos, it is the iPhone. Outside of sunlight though, they are awesome.

[@mondobytes]

I've experienced that with the Accsoon one also but haven't with the Atomos, not sure if they throttle power input so the phone doesn't overheat.

[@iamsteveolson]

@ Interesting. Didn’t think about that.

[@movimox]

Tap to focus function ?

[@mondobytes]

Sadly no.

[@photomagique15]

I went with the port keys monitor you recommended last week

[@mondobytes]

Awesome, I love that monitor. I now have one for every camera I own.

[@photomagique15]

It’s the best monitor I have ever used thanks for the recommendation

[@rsraw1111]

Other option for Sony monitor and control app or monitor plus - much simpler and includes camera control and more functionality - with direct USB connection don’t need extra battery and also have good low latency. For my needs, much better option.

[@mondobytes]

Not everyone uses a Sony camera, also doesn't record internally, no camera to cloud, proxy recoding, drains your phones battery, etc. If you don't need or care for those things than yes I'd say those apps are decent options but I stopped using them because they were so buggy and always crashed or lost connection. Maybe they're much better now since the last time I tried it was almost 2 years ago, but if it works for you that's awesome! As they say, if it ain't broke don't fix it.

[@SimeonKolev]

@@mondobytes Monitor+ app works with HDMI signal ;) I use it with my Sony and Canon from work. You just need USB-C capture card for about 40-50$ and the only limitation is how much battery your phone has :) mine works for about 2 hours and I have some battery left for quick edit of some IG stories. If you shoot short stuff you do not need the NP-F battery.

[@mondobytes]

@@SimeonKolev Oh sweet, that's how long it's been since I used Camera+ that's pretty cool. Do you know if something like this would work as it's only $15 right now on sale: amzn.to/3ZdYBtp

[@robjoyce-lifestyle6464]

Does it work if you connect a SSD hard-drive enclosure to the iPhone while using this device?

[@mondobytes]

Unfortunately it does not, that was the first thing I tried. Not sure if it's a limitation with Apple or Atomos?

[@jacksonlevlog9963]

Hi I just have one quick question, if I use the dji mic connect to this, would the audio files be bake in the the footage to the card? Or do I need to link them together in post. Planning on using them on my new fx6, trying to not use the top handle from sony

[@JambuwantBhalu]

I'd have design slider on top instead of bottom lot easy and one handed operation

[@timdanyo898]

I don’t like having my personal phone in that application. I guess you could turn off every annoying pop up, alert, etc. the wifi live stream aspect is cool. Curious if zoom or meets would work?

[@mondobytes]

I'm not sure if Zoom or Meets works, I'll have to try it out later.

[@JeanSebastienHeroux]

How does this compare to the accsoon SEemoo

[@mondobytes]

They're very comparable, I prefer the UI on Atomos over Seemo but that doesn't mean the Seemo is bad, it's still very intuitive and easy to use. I say if you can get the Atomos on sale like it is right now for $200 then I would go for that one but at full retail $400 for Atomos and Acssoon for $180 ($143 on sale right now) then I'd go with Accsoon. I don't think the Atomos is $200 better.

[@omairkk]

does this allow you to record to an SSD via the spare Usb-c port ?

[@mondobytes]

Sadly no, it's one of the first things I tried as I always record to an SSD from my phone, I'm wondering if maybe they'll make that available in a future update but not sure if it's hardware locked by Apple?

[@Bolemcreations]

Does this work with android

[@mondobytes]

Works with Samsung S24

[@Bolemcreations]

@mondobytes Thank you brother

[@JonathanJacobsMakesVideos]

Have you figured out a way to trigger recording on the NinjaPhone from the camera? I can’t find an HDMI trigger option on mine.

[@mondobytes]

@@JonathanJacobsMakesVideos No, I’ve also looked and wish they would enable it. I know it’s possible and hopefully they add it soon.

[@nicksavage4763]

Interested to fully understand before Considering investing in New System

[@arthur3038]

i ask myself, why companies like SCN do not integrate at leas some of the features even the stupidest smartphone has .?

[@ShervinShares]

I think the Accseen Seemo 4K is MUCH better

[@mondobytes]

Value wise 💯

[@gwm-btdbattlesagar.ioandmo9988]

Budget Option (Only for sony) Monitor + App (Free but recommend the pro paid version 12 bucks one-time payment. Wireless charging case for your phone. Usb-usb c It also has the cloud and storage feature too Also frees up the hdmi port for wireless video village 👌 Boom

[@Pachiscruz2]

Looks Atomos is reacting to Acsoon (sorry if I misspelled the brand) that have the same product long ago. Let’s see how the prize goes

[@mondobytes]

As someone who’s used both I definitely think Atomos is more ironed out and 4K is a big deal. With that being said I do feel Atomos to be pricier which is nice they’re having a sale, too bad it’s not permanent.

[@redmercurylondon]

I've got the Accsoon, and it doesn't do 10 bit. I'm sending my one back.

[@DavinciHD_]

I like wha they are doing here with this one. But I much rather use The Acsoon Seemo 4k which the Ninja Phone is clearly a response to. It does the same thing for half the price and is compatible with a wider range of apple devices. For the price off he ninja phone device you might as well get a Ninja V. Just my opinion. Still a dope video . Technology is truly progressing

[@mondobytes]

@@DavinciHD_ You’re not wrong, I do feel Atomos experience is a bit polished but for double the price as you stated it doesn’t make sense. It is on sale right now which makes it worth it

[@redmercurylondon]

It's not 10 bit though.

[@DavinciHD_]

@@redmercurylondon that’s a good point

[@PrestonGladd]

Atomos can see the writing on the wall, in a few more years they will be obsolete, as our phones will be more capable than the monitors that they sell.

[@mondobytes]

I mean our phones are already more capable than any monitor out in the market but not everyone wants to use their phone as a monitor. Also I prefer using a smaller phone for personal use but choose to use a larger monitor for filming. I think there's a market for both and this is just another tool available to us to make life easier and more efficient.

[@PrestonGladd]

@@mondobytes I suppose what I mean to say is that in a few years we will have phones with 4 TB SSD's, IO that can support any signal, and wireless features that will make cables optional. Make the apple watch a bit bigger and more capable, and when your phone is in monitor mode your watch takes over and can handle most of your phone tasks. no need to have extra gear to deal with.

[@mondobytes]

​@@PrestonGladd Could be a possibility, it's much more complex though as we don't have universal standards and every camera manufacturer is doing their own thing. Everyone would have to agree to a specific standard and as much as I'd love to believe that will happen I don't see it being universally adopted which is why these products exist because they can take a video signal and now let you do whatever you want with it using your phones tech. The only company really using phone tech to extend a cameras capability is RED. The RED camera app control is really solid and you can tell is truly an extension to what the camera is capable of doing because it was designed by RED and not a third party. I believe the only way we will see this happen sooner than later is if Apple bought a camera brand, to be honest it's a shame Apple didn't buy RED instead of Nikon I feel we could have had an insane camera with tech that we've yet to see in Cinema using AI and computational video. But I guess time will tell.

[@PrestonGladd]

@@mondobytes maybe Apple will buy Nikon!!!! 🤞🏻

[@mondobytes]

@@PrestonGladd It’s unlikely, as Japanese culture places a strong emphasis on pride and loyalty. They would likely prioritize selling to a Japanese company over an American one.

[@NitroColaSSC]

Thanks for making the video! I'm most curious about the latency! Have you noticed it being an issue or is it basically non-existent?

[@colinthomas2525]

Please give us an answer.

[@johnmeric492]

Can you use this with Pyxis?

[@TommyHawksblood1]

Icloud always records evetything Auto 😊seel it to. A dummy

[@uzielisrael956]

Sad everyone keeps beating around the bush that you can't use an ssd with this thing who wants to fill their phone up with pro res files when that's why we attach a ssd to the iPhone

[@TravelWithAC]

Cool device. But it’s basically just an hdmi capture card $20 with good software. Now that Apple has introduced UVC since iOS17. The ability to use these devices as monitors are extremely easy as buying a $20 cable and plugging it in. It’s really just the software/app where it shines and adds the features. This device should be a lot cheaper than its $400 price tag No external drive option Horrible bracket for attaching your device Doesn’t come with a screen No luts At this price… why doesn’t it include the iPad attachment And doesn’t even include an hdmi cable 😂

[@mondobytes]

You’re not wrong.

[@ThaiLifeAmerican]

I use the highest and Android devices available currently I'm typing on a S24 Ultra I haven't had an iPhone since the iPhone 4S I just got an iPhone 15 from my work and I've had it for 2 months and I absolutely LOATHE it. Apple users have been convinced that being inconvenienced and doing things differently is somehow better They pretend that their phones never lock up or freeze that apps don't need to be reset It's absolutely the worst experience I've ever had with a phone and it's why I got rid of my iPhone 4 they're just absolute crap

[@ericsternberger2768]

if you love cables like you love spaghetti - this is the right device for you 😅

[@mondobytes]

Eh no different than a monitor 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@zmo190]

wtf almost 400 bucks f that shit

[@TommyHawksblood1]

I would say another way to waist your money. Your phone does everything when it is charged. You can buy a simple power surply. Yhe thong needed is called a camera stand. Guss you have no clue you can do all that on a good phone.

[@SarahBarrera-b2w]

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