Why The Batman Needs Dick Grayson | Video Essay

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@maurovillarreal2037
@maurovillarreal2037 2 жыл бұрын
I like how Robin showed growth and evolution. he's probably the only character in comics that the student can become the MASTER.
@parkerboy795
@parkerboy795 2 жыл бұрын
That's honestly a handful of the sidekicks: Bucky, Wally West, etc.
@maurovillarreal2037
@maurovillarreal2037 2 жыл бұрын
@@parkerboy795 Yeah but for another human to be batman and use the bat suit is pretty hard. the only 1 kinda close to that was Terry Maginace the Batman Beyond. But its still not the same because Terry has Bruce alive by his side to guide him as an Oracle teaching him the ropes and can see through Terry's bat suit thanks to the advanced technology. Terry also has the help of the Future technology that help him make mistakes cause the suit is better and stronger. And he can fly better and glide better etc.. Dick Grayson became batman without the high level Tech around the same time Batman was batman being just like batman. He even had his own robin and guided him like Bruce did him.
@maurovillarreal2037
@maurovillarreal2037 2 жыл бұрын
@@parkerboy795 Dick needed the tough mental strength like Bruce to with the same fighting skills as a human.
@gerarquiaFM
@gerarquiaFM 2 жыл бұрын
@@parkerboy795 yhea, but Dick its THE sidekick
@wesstewart2677
@wesstewart2677 2 жыл бұрын
Wally West boutta find you and deliver an infinite mass punch
@t.rexking441
@t.rexking441 2 жыл бұрын
I think having Dick in the sequel is the next logical step since it would allow Bruce to take what he learned in the first movie about not falling into solely striving for vengeance in order to prevent Dick from going down the path he could have gone through.
@t.rexking441
@t.rexking441 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaxsonlee10 Then that could leave two options 1. Wait until the third or fourth movie so Bruce is able to improve himself even more more and is better able to help Dick. And the next trilogy can be about their relationship. 2. Use Dick in the sequel and have Bruce's arc be trying to help Dick despite his still existing flaws, since parents aren't perfect.
@bigjawline9235
@bigjawline9235 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaxsonlee10 bc the kid also helps him
@scrabdusanproductions2104
@scrabdusanproductions2104 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaxsonlee10 The kid humanizes him. Bruce's unresolved character flaw from THE Batman is that he's afraid of connecting with people do to his fear of loss. The next movie could address that perfectly by bringing in Dick Grayson. Bruce helps Dick become a better man, and Dick helps Bruce grow out of his fear of loss.
@marcusmcneal7453
@marcusmcneal7453 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaxsonlee10 Because it's a process? In canon, Dick Grayson becomes Robin in Batman's 2nd or 3rd year when Bruce is still figuring everything out. The fact he's not a perfect mentor is actually the source of a lot great dramatic moments between the two. They don't always get along. Dick gets angry at Batman a lot. Batman screws up a lot. But they keep trying to perfect their relationship. As a parent, this is how it works. You never have it figured out when you're raising a kid, and thinking you do makes you a damn fool.
@svofoy_tre
@svofoy_tre 2 жыл бұрын
This is a great idea, and I think that instead of a trilogy they should go more so the Harry Potter/ Star Wars Route and have a lot more movies. Introducing Robin so early allows us to see the character develop without time skips (which I think ruin a lot of movies and shows). Robin is a huge part of Batman but is often neglected when it comes to the big screen, I think Matt Reeves is a capable enough director to do justice by him and tell a compelling story in which Batman and Robin touch each other’s lives, Batman isn’t just his savior, they help each other and that dynamic can lead this version of Bruce into his next arc.
@melfeek4304
@melfeek4304 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderwoman:"i shouldn't be suprised given that you brought Robin into crimefighting at age of nine" Batman:"Robin needed to ring the man who killed his family to justice." WW:"So he could turn out like you?" Batman:"So he wouldn't"
@urippe
@urippe 2 жыл бұрын
Wonder woman saying that was not a believable wonder woman thing to say so I will never understand why they chose her to say that lol. It would've been so much better if someone else said it like superman because he wasn't raised to fight people and lived a good life. So it would've put him in his place. Sorry for the thought/ rant but yeah I just wanted to say that lol
@JPMonster13
@JPMonster13 2 жыл бұрын
@@urippe I kinda see your point. Theres no way themyscarians don't train girls when their young. (Maybe it's the idea of it being real threats then training for her reasons though)
@urippe
@urippe 2 жыл бұрын
@@JPMonster13 they probably train them as real soldiers with real attacks. I'm sure that they have to do things among that nature to even become a warrior. Also I feel like realistically they would have to fight a lot of threats and stuff to protect themselves. In some variations of the comics the women there would leave and would seduce men on ships then kill them after and go back home to raise more children. Just wouldn't believe wonder woman of all people would say that lol especially because she herself was a rebel who wanted to fight and trained all her life to be the best
@shmeebs387
@shmeebs387 Жыл бұрын
@@urippe Superman wouldn't have made sense either because he knows Dick and Bruce well enough to know Bruce's position already. I think they picked Wonder Woman because she was one of the only leaguers that didn't have a sidekick at the time. It would have been hypocritical if Flash said it for example. Themyscarians train to defend against foreign threats where those kids would have to end up fighting for their own survival anyway. They don't send them out to fight grown men on the streets.
@urippe
@urippe Жыл бұрын
@@shmeebs387 yeah true unless it happened after Todd's death then maybe. But yeah ig those people wouldn't say it to him in general lol
@ayrtonpietrobelli6972
@ayrtonpietrobelli6972 2 жыл бұрын
Dick Grayson is still my favourite character ever, mostly because he’s someone people can realistically aspire to be. A guy who just wants to be happy and make others feel the same, earnestly and sincerely.
@saikog.
@saikog. 2 жыл бұрын
Ditto. Also blue is my favorite color.
@spinozilla2421
@spinozilla2421 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like if Dick is added, scarecrow would be nice villain to have to play with Batman fear of loss
@lightningbolt4419
@lightningbolt4419 2 жыл бұрын
Scarecrow in the batman universe would be amazing
@ItsRubenMorris
@ItsRubenMorris 2 жыл бұрын
Or, playing off the theme of hope and the shift in Bruce’s outlook away from darkness and rage, the fear that Dick would end up like him. I think it’d work super well to have Bruce’s biggest fear in a movie about Robin be the idea of what would happen to Dick if he doesn’t adopt him. Plus, it would help integrate Robin into the world of Reeves - giving insight into why Batman not only has Robin around, but NEEDS Robin (as Robin needs him).
@retrozip
@retrozip 2 жыл бұрын
I kinda want Dr.Pyg as the next villain. He pretty underrated
@calvinschaafsma202
@calvinschaafsma202 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking. Having someone who wants to show people that humanity isn’t as good as they say they are would be a great villain. Having this individual kill Grayson parents too would make it personal and could set up a great plot with Batman trying to teach Robin to control that rage and anger
@frostyfrenchtoast
@frostyfrenchtoast 2 жыл бұрын
Or have him prey on Greyson’s fear of not living up to Bruce and other insecurities. He’d be a great villain and obstacle for Dick to overcome
@sleepy9102
@sleepy9102 2 жыл бұрын
Nightwing is Batman’s healer. He always brings levity to every moment he spends around Batman. Always a clever quip or a fun scene in the mists of the never ending crusade Batman is in grossed in. Night-wing is the brightest star in the bat family.
@ThePatxiao
@ThePatxiao 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly Dick fits well for the themes. I think it's generally stated that Bruce adopting Dick was good for both of them. Bruce ensured that Dick didn't become like him and Dick brought joy to Bruce's life and thus that's why it's stated Dick is Bruce's favorite partner and yes that includes Superman. Dick is usually written as one of the nicest superheroes in DC and is more or less the favored successor to the cowl, the fact he had a highly popular run when he did become Batman and made Damain likable helps,.
@marcusmcneal7453
@marcusmcneal7453 2 жыл бұрын
In a weird way, Dick was arguably a better Batman than Bruce and that's why I loved that run so much. He had all of his strengths, but none of his weaknesses. He trusted others to help him out and guided Damian better than anyone else.
@lonewanderer1328
@lonewanderer1328 2 жыл бұрын
He even let dick be a 2nd batman when he came back from the past
@T.Sedric
@T.Sedric 2 жыл бұрын
But a kid wering red and green lighting next to batman kinda kill the dark tone at least in my opinion
@barry2349
@barry2349 2 жыл бұрын
@@T.Sedric dude why does every movie have to be so dark,robin is part of batman mythos
@T.Sedric
@T.Sedric 2 жыл бұрын
@@barry2349 Not every movie has to be dark but Batman has to be and if its nightwing then i wouldn't have any problem but bringing a kid to fight dangerous criminals next to him doesn't fit anymore at least in my opinion
@tygatygatyga6609
@tygatygatyga6609 2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you put “Grayson” in the title
@Artryom
@Artryom 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, since he’s the Robin that “lightens up” Bruce while the others do so too in their own way but they’re more so drive the story. Which is why Tim’s smart, Jason’s failed, Damian’s…. A challenge… Dick is the light that makes Batman a little brighter.
@Cloudy_Games_99
@Cloudy_Games_99 2 жыл бұрын
@@Artryom yeah that’s definitely not what that comment meant lol
@Artryom
@Artryom 2 жыл бұрын
@@Cloudy_Games_99 Yep
@awesomegaymer5786
@awesomegaymer5786 2 жыл бұрын
"why batman needs dick"
@Villakeen
@Villakeen 2 жыл бұрын
@@Cloudy_Games_99 Im dead.
@MVPMVE
@MVPMVE 2 жыл бұрын
I want Robin, and I want him to be Dick Grayson. Lots of comments are panting for Jason, but I don't think it works thematically. I think people are asking for Jason because he comes off more grounded/realistic (or just less goofy) since Dick was raised loved and thriving in the circus whereas Jason was the dark(er), hard-edged Gotham street orphan before he ever met Bruce. That, and I think people really wanna see Red Hood over Nightwing in the future because he's very DC's Punisher. I like Jason myself, but I do think Dick is a better character and necessary to move forward Bruce's (specifically, though also his Batman) own characterization. Starting with antagonistic Jason when Bruce barely stopped being Vengeance seems regressive. Dick is Hope, and keeping hope alive should be Bruce's whole point now, thematically.
@DilettanteThat
@DilettanteThat 2 жыл бұрын
Exactlyyyy, and if Jason does get introduce I think it should be in order. He can come along later on.
@scrabdusanproductions2104
@scrabdusanproductions2104 2 жыл бұрын
@@DilettanteThat Very true, Bruce takes Jason in because he thinks he can replicate the success of Dick, and he fails. Without Dick coming first, that dichotomy makes no sense.
@DilettanteThat
@DilettanteThat 2 жыл бұрын
@@scrabdusanproductions2104 Exactly what I was getting at. Plus a lot of Jasons insecurities and the origin of Robin come from Dick, just as Jasons bar for performance and so much more. A lot of Jasons time as Robin, just like the others times as Robin, rely on Dick. There would be no Robin without him. Which is why he always has to be the first. He's too essential, and doing it any other way would low-key be insulting. Robin was a nickname Dicks mother gave him, and is intrinsically apart of his backstory and character. Hell, Jasons time AFTER Robin is reliant on his time AS Robin, which was reliant on Dick whether he was there or not.
@m0urn1ng5tar5
@m0urn1ng5tar5 2 жыл бұрын
And I mean they don't REALLY need to make the Grayson family a circus act for him to still be Dick Grayson do they? If they're worried about it feeling too silly I don't see much wrong with altering this origins just a bit to fit more in line with this universe.
@scrabdusanproductions2104
@scrabdusanproductions2104 2 жыл бұрын
@@m0urn1ng5tar5 I mean, if they want to do a true adaptation of Dick Grayson, they should definitely keep the circus act origin.
@Artryom
@Artryom 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, hire you to be a DC writer cuz some of these guys don’t understand Grayson at all… Also, some don’t understand why Batman needs his Robin and leaves him as fanservice, just to be there it feels.
@randomt800kiddo2
@randomt800kiddo2 2 жыл бұрын
ric grayson lol, 1996 nightwing is the definitive nightwing still to this day
@prometheusmodelow8322
@prometheusmodelow8322 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, he needs THIS Robin, i don't get why so many brain dead Red Hood fans want Jason Todd to be the first Robin in this timeline "because it's gritty and realistic" LMAO, dude, if Jason was the first Robin ever, Bruce would have gone the Frank Miller route a long time ago.
@CRISIS_COMICS
@CRISIS_COMICS 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, people misinterpret Batman HARD. If you want cynical realism watch The Boys, The Batman is about hope.
@scrabdusanproductions2104
@scrabdusanproductions2104 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. The can do Jason eventually, but you can't just skip to him. It's important that Dick is there first because his influence on the other Robin's is a major part of all of their stories.
@damiantirado9616
@damiantirado9616 2 жыл бұрын
@@scrabdusanproductions2104 I think this Batman needs Dick Grayson however it actually makes more sense story wise for Jason Todd to be the first Robin.
@plain3089
@plain3089 2 жыл бұрын
@@damiantirado9616 why? It's not like either Dick or Jason have been established yet why would Jason make more sense story wise?
@hmm7458
@hmm7458 2 жыл бұрын
@@youtubeistryingtocensorme yeah it make it better.. that's why bat movies are such a hit you may not like it (its fine) but studio see success and money they pull
@cinemavalanche
@cinemavalanche 2 жыл бұрын
I also wouldn't put it pass them to introduce Dick Grayson, as they did namedrop Blüdhaven at the end of the movie. It's just a matter of time
@Artryom
@Artryom 2 жыл бұрын
Blüdhaven is forever a Dick Grayson reference as much as Gotham is a Batman reference. It’s just a matter of time, indeed…
@LP3Customs
@LP3Customs 2 жыл бұрын
Bruce's son, Dick, needs to be in this movie series. He is a more important character to the Batman mythos than almost any other. And the mayor's son CANNOT be the Robin. That kid was clearly rich and still had his mother to raise him. Dick lost both parents, leaving his only option to stay in Haley's Circus to be looked after by the other performers and ringmaster in order to provide enough money for himself.
@pamakasaka888
@pamakasaka888 2 жыл бұрын
Grayson is basically the humanity in batman, it would be nice to see the batman not shying away from robin
@LittlePatMan
@LittlePatMan 2 жыл бұрын
I noticed alot of themes of fatherhood and the mediums through which we exceed trauma. I feel like robin is the natural next step in this version of the character's development
@maleehadamda6814
@maleehadamda6814 2 жыл бұрын
You explained it so freaking well dude. Thank you for this video. People on Tumblr have already made up the robin for Battinson and I hope the sequel has a Robin because it is about damn time we get an accurate Dick Grayson as Robin.
@teriyakisauce7896
@teriyakisauce7896 2 жыл бұрын
I thought Tumblr was dead and waiting to be finally buried lol
@TinyToonStar
@TinyToonStar Жыл бұрын
​@teriyakisauce7896 Nah, it's still alive and thriving. Tumblr is like the cockroach of social media. That being said, yeah a lot of Batfans on Tumblr are waiting for Robin, and most of them are hoping for Dick Grayson
@liamowens6439
@liamowens6439 2 жыл бұрын
I love this idea of using the canonically first Robin, not only is Nightwing one of my favorite heroes but if this does become a big franchise and universe, when they get to the Jason Todd of it all, it would make his death and Batman’s failure, just that much more crushing.
@alsimmonshellspawn6021
@alsimmonshellspawn6021 2 жыл бұрын
Hollywood need to a 13 years old real gymnastic kid to play Grayson, you can't cgi his agile athleticism flexibility coordination and acrobatic moves.
@tannern6926
@tannern6926 2 жыл бұрын
Too bad they will cgi all that stuff. Everything catwoman did that showed her agility looked fake as hell.
@tyronleung5276
@tyronleung5276 2 жыл бұрын
I think they should go younger to 8 years old
@stellanewton7656
@stellanewton7656 2 жыл бұрын
Plot twist: you can. you just need good camera angles and a good choreography with a few dance lessons.
@alexandrefrauches132
@alexandrefrauches132 2 жыл бұрын
I really hope to see Dick Grayson in the sequel, however I don't think he should be Robin yet. Much like he did with Catwoman, I think Reeves should introduce Dick Grayson and show him yet building his identity as Robin. In the second movie he should just be kid with hte focus being on Bruce learning that, in order to help Dick, he can't just bring Grayson parents muderer to justice, he also must become a father figure the kid needs. By the end, he could decide to train Dick Grayson and then, third movie could have him now as Robin, with the a sub plot involving Bruce and Alfred discussion about he allowing Dick to become a vigilante like him.
@krackkokichi
@krackkokichi 2 жыл бұрын
personally, dick is my favorite comic book character so i would love to see him get an accurate big screen portrayal
@mariemiriel
@mariemiriel 2 жыл бұрын
I would love it if Dick was added to the Reeves Batman sequel. Dick is my favorite character in all of DC Comics and it's really frustrating that he's rarely put in the live-action movies. I liked the Christopher Nolan movies but having Joseph Gordon-Levitt's character made to be "Robin" at the very end of the trilogy was incredibly weak in my opinion. I know there's a fine line with how old Dick could be when he first becomes Robin. In some versions he's as young as nine but having him be nine in live-action would be kind of problematic because of child endangerment. But if he's too old, like being in his 20s in the Joel Schumacher movies, it kind of takes away the father/son dynamic that he has with Bruce. I think Dick being around 15 would be the best age in live-action. I can only hope Reeves' sequel will do him justice if he's put in it.
@lonestarr9759
@lonestarr9759 Жыл бұрын
I always hated that at the end
@mariemiriel
@mariemiriel Жыл бұрын
@@lonestarr9759 yeah me too. I remember watching that in the theater in 2012 thinking wtf that's not my Robin
@JustYourAverageYotsubro
@JustYourAverageYotsubro 2 жыл бұрын
As much as I love for them to add Jason Todd, Dick Grayson is the best choice for Bruce's character progression. He went from Vengeance to Hope and adding Jason Todd would just ruin that character growth for Bruce.
@thetypingavocado574
@thetypingavocado574 2 жыл бұрын
we truly need a robin with battinson, especially with this tone. great video!
@Retroholic
@Retroholic 2 жыл бұрын
I've been saying since the film released that Batman: Year Three is the most logical comic to adapt next not just because of the first film taking place Year Two but because the comic talks about Zucco being an Orphanage during his early years after his father is killed by debt collectors before leaving and working under the mob. this could tie in perfectly with Riddler's film origins at the Martha Wayne Orphanage leaving an at the time 13-14 year old Zucco 2-3 years older than Riddler and just old enough to be a somebody in Gotham around the time of Maroni's arrest and Falcone's rise to power probably causing him and other low-level gangsters to go into hiding. With the death of Falcone and the city being destroyed with a need to be rebuilt (which I honestly don't think the next movie will be in a flooded Gotham, i'm sure they'll have a timeskip to when it's fixed) around the time of the sequel is the opportune moment for the lower families of Gotham to fight for the place of king. part of that war to win Gotham would be the death of the Grayson's leading to Dick's introduction.
@damiantirado9616
@damiantirado9616 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly your idea isn’t really that good because time skipping would be the worst decision. A flooded Gotham is really just a missed opportunity for lots of things. I want to see how Batman deals with flooded Gotham.
@teriyakisauce7896
@teriyakisauce7896 2 жыл бұрын
@@damiantirado9616 Yeah I wouldn’t go as far as to say that this idea isn’t really good but there’s something I would love to see and that’s something similar to EP. VII to EP.VIII or Halloween to Halloween II where the second instalment picks up right from the end of the first one
@Retroholic
@Retroholic 2 жыл бұрын
@@damiantirado9616 late reply but it's not uncommon for comicbook movies to mix comic arcs so the sequel could be a mix of Year 3, Zero Year, and maybe alittle no man's land with Penguin rising to power and Joker existing without his title yet. Tho I wonder if they do that if they'll change the death of the Graysons to be tied to the flood destroying the circus or have it at one of very few elevated areas of Gotham that got damaged less. Just some food for thought
@rayparker4231
@rayparker4231 2 жыл бұрын
I personally would really like Scarecrow as the next villain and think introducing Robin could work well within the narrative. It could help drive Batman even more as to why he’s helping Dick Grayson to not become like him a kid who never left the alley the night his parents died. It would help him grow with him learning that he can help as Bruce Wayne as well after the last movie hinted that his Bruce Wayne persona could help the people of Gotham as well, even if he’s truly Batman. Scarecrow and his fear gas could definitely continue with the psyche aspect of everything and could create for some great visuals imo. Granted I’m rushing this comment before I click play so I can get out an idea of what I’d personally want to see if Robin is brought in by briefly touching on it but I’m excited to get into your reasonings of why Batman needs a Robin even if I agree
@luca553
@luca553 2 жыл бұрын
You explained this so well. I've watched this movie twice already and I think Dick Grayson getting introduced is the logical step to take next, it fits really well within the story and themes, and would also just be very interesting and cool to see :)
@TheAliAzhar
@TheAliAzhar 2 жыл бұрын
I am hoping for 15 or 14 years old version Robin not like a 17 or 18 one if they gonna bring Robin to the sequel
@runningwithscissors1524
@runningwithscissors1524 2 жыл бұрын
Pattinson himself said he wants a 13-year-old Robin. That makes sense to me, since 13 is old enough to have some level of maturity (and is a little more believable than a 9-year-old vigilante) but not so old that he would barely need Bruce’s guidance before immediately becoming independent, like if he were a 17/18-year-old kid.
@amazingonion
@amazingonion 2 жыл бұрын
If we do get Robin and I really hope we do. I hope they don't screw up his origins.
@plantainsame2049
@plantainsame2049 2 жыл бұрын
You know now that I think about it this could also be used for comedy as well as the obvious serious part I mean just imagine the awkward Robert Bruce with a kid that just sounds adorable
@bagre298
@bagre298 2 жыл бұрын
Great video man, seeing nightwing in movies would be such an awesome idea
@megs3147
@megs3147 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see Jason in later movies but you need to have Batman's greatest success, his hope, if you really want Jason and his death to really have gut punching impact it deserves. Dick processed his parents' deaths, he grew past his anger, Jason is characterised by his and his story as Robin ends badly. Having Bruce take in a kid and it ending like that? That would (and it does) send Batman down a dark path that doesn't continue the theme of hope that those 3 hours were building towards
@FUBUKAMII
@FUBUKAMII 2 жыл бұрын
I really hope they add Robin in the next movie but also question why Batman is making a child be a vigilante. Like Gordon gonna ask Batman “Don't bring a child into this" and Batman gonna reply with “He can hold on his own"
@zero-pl3tt
@zero-pl3tt 2 жыл бұрын
Generally in comics the story goes that Dick would've hunted down his parents killer with or without Bruce. By making him Robin, Bruce ensures that Dick at least does it under his eye, and doesn't become as mentally anguished as he did.
@joshuamendivil784
@joshuamendivil784 2 жыл бұрын
your channel is going to blow up, insane production, great storytelling, and cinematics.
@o.8.p149
@o.8.p149 2 жыл бұрын
Man I do I hope Robin comes in and I hope he doesn’t become robin at like 16 I actually want him to be a kid
@vazak11
@vazak11 2 жыл бұрын
This was a good video, I am glad someone else wants to see Robin n live action. I'd also love Cassandra Cain.
@stellanewton7656
@stellanewton7656 2 жыл бұрын
Cassandra Cain would be a lovely addition later on, but i'm not sure if this Batman is ready for her personal drama now. It would be hard to learn how to be a human being from mr "the night animal emo vengance".
@ManimalMoose
@ManimalMoose 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine if they actually could give this character enough time to have some adventures and maybe have several robins and have us see some stuff like Jason Todd's story within this universe. It'll probably never happen.
@HouseMDLover69
@HouseMDLover69 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah we haven't seen Robin in live action for quite sometime and I'm sure Matt would love to tackle dangerous things like Dick. Oh dammit
@thekeynotex
@thekeynotex 2 жыл бұрын
Pause
@Tylearn
@Tylearn 2 жыл бұрын
Best video you’ve made no contest
@CRISIS_COMICS
@CRISIS_COMICS 2 жыл бұрын
🙏🙏🙏
@-RedHood-
@-RedHood- 2 жыл бұрын
I think Dick Grayson and Tim Drake are the best Robins, but Dick Grayson is the best Robin to add in at Bruce's current stage.
@fathersolace2661
@fathersolace2661 2 жыл бұрын
You deserve a lot more attention buddy. Your videos are so detailed and the quality is amazing.
@CRISIS_COMICS
@CRISIS_COMICS 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, I really appreciate that. This was a labor of love so it means a lot to read those kind words. ✌️
@wegaming2571
@wegaming2571 2 жыл бұрын
@@CRISIS_COMICS When are you gonna do How Powerful Is Vergil? :D great video
@patburns64
@patburns64 Жыл бұрын
I agree 100% I just reread dark victory and I would love to see Dick Grayson join Pattinsons Batman.
@joshuamendivil784
@joshuamendivil784 2 жыл бұрын
this video is a love letter to grayson fans.
@isaiahlong8786
@isaiahlong8786 2 жыл бұрын
Question? What is it with Jason Todd and the Death in the family story that so many are obsessed with. How can you even think of Jason Todd before giving Dick Grayson his time in the sun. Yes losing a Robin was a hard hit to Batman but the development of Dick Grayson is a far better story. I know it’s Batman but can we please have a boy wonder to open the curtains and let a little sunlight in 😂
@shannonhubbard2209
@shannonhubbard2209 2 жыл бұрын
The opening of the video was so good I forgot what the video was actually about.
@colin3498
@colin3498 2 жыл бұрын
I agree this would be an interesting direction to take things but I think the next sequel will focus on the continued development of Catwoman and Batman's relationship. That being said I wouldn't be surprised if the next film introduces Robin as a fledgling superhero inspired by Batman, and will eventually be taken under Batman's wing in the third film.
@revalier3670
@revalier3670 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video and Robert Pattinson knocked it out the park with his performance. Please do How strong is Batman Beyond video!
@maqpi8335
@maqpi8335 2 жыл бұрын
Dick Grayson is basically Batman's skills and Superman's humanity
@kistertheartist
@kistertheartist 2 жыл бұрын
Robert said hed only do robin if he was 13. And i 100 percent agree. The way id go about it is one of two ways. One being the kid of the ex-mayor was named Dick, and his wifes maiden name was Grayson and they switched or some crap. Or the one i personally think is just a bit better. Howver my overall story is the same regardless of the origin. Robin was already an orphan, and maybe his orphanage flooded when Riddler blew the waterwall. He's living in the streets, and hates criminals because their corruption was the reason he is where he is. Somehow, Bruce stumbles upon him. And heres where the kicker is. Hes seen what happens when an orphan is left with this rage, in the Riddler, in himself. He knows the sick and twisted mind anger can breed. So he trains Dick to use it. Rather than kill those he deems responsible for his own life, he should use it to protect more boys like him. That Batman no longer stands for vengeance, but hope. Hope for the people. Hope that there is a future for Gotham free of the corruption, the pain. Hope for a future where no kid will drown themselves in pain and get lost in the rabbit hole of hate and despair. So that no child falls to their knees in tears knowing that no one will save them. He saves Dick from this path to save more of these kids. To save them all. He will bring the "rats" into the light. All of them. He will clutch their hand out of the rubble of the flood and carry them out to the new dawn of light and hope. That is what The Batman now stands for. Hope.
@isaiahlong8786
@isaiahlong8786 2 жыл бұрын
Loved this video! So many good points made. I personally think Dick is the best Robin and I’d probably cry if they introduced him in these films. Especially if they do the oath scene
@DBrealmadrid9606
@DBrealmadrid9606 2 жыл бұрын
A huge fan of your work! You have to make a video about DMC’s one and only wacky wohoo pizza boomer: Dante. His feats, how powerful he is and all...
@puffsnstuff8636
@puffsnstuff8636 2 жыл бұрын
I agree in the next movie he doesn't need an origin , hell he doesn't need a costume but WE need Dick Grayson, scene of mourning , realization Bruce is Batman and training all we need, he can even be 13 and train in the cave till hes taller haha
@Iceintheveins10
@Iceintheveins10 2 жыл бұрын
Beautifully made video, dude.
@marchionessamoretto7326
@marchionessamoretto7326 10 ай бұрын
Hollywood needs to make a Robin spin off movie.
@gabanna
@gabanna 2 жыл бұрын
watching this after reading issue #6 of the dc vs vampires really hit different
@stellanewton7656
@stellanewton7656 2 жыл бұрын
Can we all just pretend it didn't happen. Like this "Dark Knight Returns" story.
@egxtra
@egxtra 2 жыл бұрын
Found out about you in The Kojima Frequency. Noticed the variety of topics on the channel and opted for a topic I had some familiarity with. Between this and your podcast appearance, I didn't need any convincing in your ability to make sound points on the topics you cover, but I did need to see the full presentation. I wasn't expecting the latest film would be the anchor point that everything else would be tied to (haven't seen it, but it sounds like it'd be up my alley, pun not intended), but everything else lines up to what I understand of the character over the years. That being said, your delivery has offered a level of clarity that gives me hope that others will be able to reach this understanding, not just with Batman and Robin, but everything else featured on this channel.
@omario8295
@omario8295 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video!
@DLtheGreat
@DLtheGreat 2 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say you’re a great writer. The opening was amazing.
@malix3650
@malix3650 2 жыл бұрын
I think it would be a good scene where Batman brought Tony Zucco Infront of Dick and ask what do you want me to do?? And Dick saying to bring him in the police, Batman was ready to become a killer for this boy but when he realised that this boy was nothing like him he felt proud because all of his life thinking vengeance is the only way to save the people .
@TheSamuraijim87
@TheSamuraijim87 Жыл бұрын
Grayson is a brilliant fit, and this video was a brilliant exploration. In particular for the Bat Family, the development of Grayson into an adult, and his ups and downs with Bruce, as well as, his life long on-off love story with Barbara shows that Bruce has succeeded in growing something positive and new from the darkness of his own grief. I enjoyed the movie, and i think this explores a great direction to take the Batman.
@jockeyfield1954
@jockeyfield1954 2 жыл бұрын
the year is 2012, you have traveled back in time without realizing it. you tell a hardcore batman fan that robin would be a perfect edition for a character in the upcoming batman film. he gets angry and curses you out, saying how robin is a silly, goofy, and clumsy character that does nothing but get in batman's way the year is 2022, you have traveled back to the present. you tell that same batman fan that robin would be perfect for a character in the upcoming batman film. he thinks about it for a second and shrugs. saying he doesn't really care, although it would be nice to see robin on the big screen again
@ynfeli8987
@ynfeli8987 2 жыл бұрын
All I gotta say is YES! Amazing video🙏🏾🔥
@LadyRaeona
@LadyRaeona Жыл бұрын
i came into this thinking I wanted a jason todd robin first (mostly because I've scared DC will cancel everything before I ever get to see my boy on the big screen) but you're right. IT would be a loss not to start with the joy and balance as a character that Dick brings to the table.
@diajoji1587
@diajoji1587 2 жыл бұрын
Yesss another video, love it dude
@Vendaxel
@Vendaxel 2 жыл бұрын
Thank god I’m not the only one he’s important. The reason why he’s so angry in his earlier years is because he doesn’t have a partner/someone he can emotionally connect to, therefore he feels that he has nothing to lose. That’s why Snyders Batman is so violent, because his son is dead.
@Sunny_Didge_Game
@Sunny_Didge_Game 2 жыл бұрын
I think Grayson should be introduced late film in the sequel and is then Robin for the entirety of the third. Like maybe the climax of the next film is Freeze and Penguin teaming up, and their plan results in Dick's tragic backstory. I hope it's flying Grayson related btw.
@Artryom
@Artryom 2 жыл бұрын
Would he be Dick GRAYSON if it wasn’t flying Grayson related?
@Sunny_Didge_Game
@Sunny_Didge_Game 2 жыл бұрын
@@Artryom no, he really isnt.
@a.a677
@a.a677 2 жыл бұрын
I NEED Dick Grayson in the films
@MademoiselleRed1390
@MademoiselleRed1390 2 жыл бұрын
It's so fitting that the quintesentiall sidekick has one of if not THE most successful sidekick to hero/vigilante career with the most experience in the field.
@chuenjinyang4513
@chuenjinyang4513 2 жыл бұрын
I want to punch anyone who says "robin sucks and brings batman to a kids show and is lame" if u say this kind of stuff, we cannot be friends
@colinstudley4894
@colinstudley4894 2 жыл бұрын
don’t forget about Dick Grayson’s Elvis phase in the 60’s with his blue and yellow and and his full chest showing 😂
@cartoonishidealism582
@cartoonishidealism582 2 жыл бұрын
We don’t talk about Discowing
@CRISIS_COMICS
@CRISIS_COMICS 2 жыл бұрын
@@cartoonishidealism582 I love Discowing unironically
@tebS23
@tebS23 2 жыл бұрын
*'80s.
@sarahsakrani4797
@sarahsakrani4797 2 жыл бұрын
Your review of the movie makes me want to see it. And like the other comments I would love to see Dick Grayson there. He's full of anger at first but underneath it is a young boy full of hope and happiness. Them being together and Dick overcoming is anger and then becoming the happy child he is will help Batman grow. It will also give the people of Gotham more trust towards Batman and hope. It'll also give Batman someone to relate to and someone he doesn't have to hide things from.
@AeroFlame
@AeroFlame 2 жыл бұрын
Another master work by the GOAT
@CRISIS_COMICS
@CRISIS_COMICS 2 жыл бұрын
Means a lot coming from a theater major
@jordanglasper1064
@jordanglasper1064 Жыл бұрын
Phenomenal, this will be the best Batman storyline ever. Because then he would have somebody to help keep the darkness admit. Robin ultimate origin story
@mrmoviemanic1
@mrmoviemanic1 Жыл бұрын
I honestly wasn't as big of a fan of The Batman as many but I do think that if the sequel wants to be more investing it does need to introduce Robin in the form of Dick. People are ready for a Batman and Robin story, not just the same old Joker vs Batman phase which I feel we've been put into for too long. Exactly what you said. Dick is a symbol of everything Bruce can't be but is inspired to try and might be. I also feel Dick as Batman with Damien as Robin in a film would eventually change the game.
@litcomicsproductions5359
@litcomicsproductions5359 2 жыл бұрын
batman 2 pitch please!!! amazing video
@MademoiselleRed1390
@MademoiselleRed1390 2 жыл бұрын
As for death in the family, I think that the main issue with having your FIRST Robin die, is that you're essentially killing off the mantle and the concept entirely. I think people want it because of how gritty and realistic it is for a kid vigilante to end up dead, but that's also the downside to it. It's not the same to kill off a Robin when you already have a successful one that makes it a 50/50 chance, compared to killing your one and only Robin. The journey from sidekick to hero/vigilante is possible because Dick lived, the legacy of Robin continues because Dick Grayson is a success story in spite of Batman's failure to save Jason. So you NEED a successful Robin in the equation to sell the idea. People already question the child sidekicks as it is. If you kill the first Robin in universe, you're essentially supporting the notion that it's not possible and renouncing the possibility of trying again. Because it would be even more questionable to put ANOTHER child in risk when you have no success story to balance out the tragic one.
@frogmouth2
@frogmouth2 2 жыл бұрын
Superheroe movies nowadays are very used to not bothering with the origin of mainstays like spiderman or in this case batman, so if a robin would appear in the second film, (which would probably be themed around hope for something) then I can see them skipping Dick’s origin too. Which I think is for the better because not explaining something everyone knows with Batman’s origin was a great time save for a film that was 3 hours long.
@oxyyerks9849
@oxyyerks9849 2 жыл бұрын
You convinced me throughout this video
@Argos-xb8ek
@Argos-xb8ek Жыл бұрын
I think a Stand alone Robin movie would be great. Batman goes missing and Robin has to take over a while. It would be a fun what if.
@tyronleung5276
@tyronleung5276 2 жыл бұрын
Dick Grayson needs justice on film Joel Schumacher and Chris O'Donnell did the character dirty
@siravenueonsoundcloud3218
@siravenueonsoundcloud3218 2 жыл бұрын
Chris o Donnell was perfect it was the writing
@tyronleung5276
@tyronleung5276 2 жыл бұрын
@@siravenueonsoundcloud3218 Chris o donnell sucked for robin the dude was whiney and too old for the role being a 30 something playing a teenager dick grayson embarrassed with hiring a child actor to play a superhero in a comic book film.
@theolebrave1713
@theolebrave1713 2 жыл бұрын
Dick Grayson's robin is one of my favourite characters in all of comics. Such a genius character and is perfect with and without batman.
@imtr0yy
@imtr0yy 2 жыл бұрын
I think Dick is the best because when he was learning Batman was too
@devilscrucified3980
@devilscrucified3980 2 жыл бұрын
I loved this video
@user-ul3fr9dr4t
@user-ul3fr9dr4t 2 жыл бұрын
I think the thumbnail not saying “Batman Needs Duck” is a missed opportunity
@LPOband
@LPOband 9 ай бұрын
Cop: who’s the bat looking man? Batman: vengeance…
@she_love_oso2180
@she_love_oso2180 Жыл бұрын
I feel like scarecrow can be a great villain in this Batman’s universe or maybe calendar man as well
@Zeitgeist997
@Zeitgeist997 2 жыл бұрын
Watching this made me realize that smart people like stuff like NPR or PBS because they're fulfilled and can just sit back and enjoy life and other smart people sharing information. Someone desperate and searching for fulfillment aren't capable of understanding documentaries life this
@SugarT.ts_
@SugarT.ts_ 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, the only thing i can focus on when i watched it is; “God damn, this movie is *_obsessed_* with his boots..”
@Arma-Dinlo
@Arma-Dinlo 2 жыл бұрын
if Pattinson gets Grayson then we'll finally have the definitive live action batman
@ΚώσταςΠαππάς-φ7ζ
@ΚώσταςΠαππάς-φ7ζ 2 жыл бұрын
The only way Robin's introduction would be make sense if Dick Grayson tried to mimic Batman's activities as a vigilante on his own as a kid. Batman would find out and ask him to join him so he can keep an eye on him and guide him. There is so way someone in real life would try to recruit a young boy to keep criminality in check. I cant see any other way but this for Dick Grayson to be introduced.
@CRISIS_COMICS
@CRISIS_COMICS 2 жыл бұрын
Batman isn’t real life.
@ΚώσταςΠαππάς-φ7ζ
@ΚώσταςΠαππάς-φ7ζ 2 жыл бұрын
@@CRISIS_COMICS they have to make it as realistic as possible and thats the only way to do this.
@alondraperez-ramirez8363
@alondraperez-ramirez8363 2 жыл бұрын
You do know that Dick went out to find his parents' killer in the comics without Batman right? Grayson is a character who most definitely would have ended up in the costumed hero world regardless of Bruce. He had a great disciplined amount of training, he had the drive to stop others from sharing his fate.
@ΚώσταςΠαππάς-φ7ζ
@ΚώσταςΠαππάς-φ7ζ 2 жыл бұрын
@@alondraperez-ramirez8363 Batman: Dark Victory
@villiannewyork
@villiannewyork 2 жыл бұрын
@@CRISIS_COMICS The Reeves interpretation is more rooted but its still Batman. There's a fucking human bat with wings and a living crocodile.
@denniswilkinson5267
@denniswilkinson5267 Жыл бұрын
If I was Matt Reeves this is is how I'd incorporate Dick Grayson/Robin in The Batman universe. Dick Grayson is an orphan having witnessed his parents deaths at a Circus held in the city & at the age of nine he has been living on the street of Gotham, Four years after that he ends up becoming an ally of the vigilante The Batman. Bruce Wayne takes in the youngster but unknown to Bruce that this teenager is the new other vigilante in the city known as the boy wonder who had been helping The Caped Crusader
@charliefarmer4365
@charliefarmer4365 Жыл бұрын
Hear me out: If they are going to give him a mask like Batman's for protection while keeping it true to the comics, they should have fake hair attached to the helmet. It is in Dick's character to make the costume at least a little stylish.
@hey__you
@hey__you 10 ай бұрын
I think Jason is more 'batman solo movie' worthy because he has a dramatic arc and gives a big amount of trauma to Batman while Dick's one is more... growing up, slow paced... to see the results he does to Bruce it should take time. So I need a Robin movie for sure
@daman_thegoat9751
@daman_thegoat9751 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing
@Pelican07.23
@Pelican07.23 2 жыл бұрын
My opinion is that the robins make batman interesting ,each one explores a different side of him without them he comes off as a boring brooding vilglinte it's a shame that main stream media only sees them as lame sidekicks.
@josesarango3408
@josesarango3408 2 жыл бұрын
agreed completely
@maqpi8335
@maqpi8335 2 жыл бұрын
Grayson can work but the actor should look like he's 10 years old
@kaine5546
@kaine5546 2 жыл бұрын
Let’s send this to Matt reeves
@mbphilipblack8993
@mbphilipblack8993 2 жыл бұрын
If there's gonna be a Robin then I want Jason to be him as his character would play very well on Pattisnon's Batman as his morals and Ideals as the Red Hood or an angsty, unhinged and violent teen would resemble his original state as "Vengeance" Or directly juxtaposes him. The Joker could kill him sparking a rivalry when he's revived as he's been wronged leading to a hush storyline meets under the Red Hood where he teams up with the riddler and Hush and reveals his identity and his tactics and ideology leaving him a step behind or forcing him to become something his not proving Jason's point that's he's no better than the Crime he fights and the Red Hodds means are the only way forward. As he combats the crime in Gotham through violence and intimidation ultimately trying to be the biggest crime boss in Gotham getting Batman's attention and making him choose between Himself (Jason) or Joker seeing if he'd right his wrongs and see how Red Hood is one of his sins Making "the Sins of the farther" plot become full circle.
@CRISIS_COMICS
@CRISIS_COMICS 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta be Grayson first
@mbphilipblack8993
@mbphilipblack8993 2 жыл бұрын
@@CRISIS_COMICS Yeah i guess, can't argue with that as it makes sense chronologically. He is the poster boy the definitive Robin but I just feel Jason would work better especially with the direction of this Batman and the more grounded take and it would be nice to see him on the big screen and challenge Patt's Bat on a emotional level
@CRISIS_COMICS
@CRISIS_COMICS 2 жыл бұрын
@@mbphilipblack8993 Dick isn’t really any less grounded than Jason; unless you mean he’s more tragic which isn’t really the theme of The Batman. Grayson has as well nearly died and has more emotional confrontations with Bruce besides Death in the Family and Under the Red Hood; way more history.
@alondraperez-ramirez8363
@alondraperez-ramirez8363 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see Jason Todd on live action but Grayson has to come first. Without the 1st Robin Jason has nothing to compare himself to; no 'Goldie' for him to feel inadequate in comparison to. Plus there's a lot of potential in writing Dick confronted with Jason since each of them have a series of insecurities the other triggers with events like Jason being adopted whereas Dick was only a ward or how Jason gets compared to Dick even by villains that would be great to explore and set them up resolving these struggles and becoming brothers just in time for the tragedy to set in. They could even make a Revenge Of The Sith type of farewell for them seeing as Dick was in space when Jason died so one can easily write some brotherly teasing and a 'Love you, see you soon' type of goodbye that neither of them realize will be the last time they see each other before Jason gets killed. Batsibling dynamics in general are a fascinating topic that live action movies haven't explored so starting with these two is a good potential stepping stone.
@alexandernadeau3164
@alexandernadeau3164 2 жыл бұрын
Batman had to jump so nightwing could fly.
@ingridaguero6460
@ingridaguero6460 3 ай бұрын
I always thought Batman is the knight, the protector of what’s already there, but Robin is the light that helps people out of the darkness. Since that was the theme in The Batman, it only makes since to bring in an actual light. Plus Bruce didn’t smile once in the movie. How about they bring in a goofy, yet lovable child to get him to smile.
@dylan9492
@dylan9492 Жыл бұрын
Is that boy at the funeral Dick Grayson? If it was it makes sense why he seems himself in that boy because that’s how he exactly feel in the comics with Dick Grayson and it would be good jumping off point if they were to introduce Robin in the second film.
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