Why the Beechcraft Premier is Excellent

[@mikercflyer7383]

The Premier1driver is a happy user of the airplane which is a outstanding video channel too.

[@Rev1Kev]

Love Gregs channel!!

[@sk1dz833]

Having worked maintenance on this plane on several occassions now, the maintenance is by far the really troublesome part. By far the biggest issue this plane seems to have is bad Corrosion prevention. I had to remove a wing tip a while ago and had like 6 screws that completely corroded into the Nutplates, there also were many corrosion spots hidden behind the wing tip on structural parts of the outer most wing frame. On a different occasion we actually needed to take the entire plane apart to a point where it could be shipped off to the factory in crates. The entire Vertical Stabilizer Root was corroded heavily and the plane needed basically an entirely new tail because of that. We also needed two technicians to strike a flap roller bolt out with a mallet to remove the flap, said procedure went on for two hours until the bolt finally gave in. Third times the charm and on that plane, one of the handful of aluminium stiffeners around the composite fuselage was corroded. The entire Wing assembly was lowered off and out of the way to replace said stiffener.......... only to realize that we cant replace the stiffener because it wasnt just riveted but also glued into place, thus risking damage to the composite pressure cabin. Finally for the last hurrah as someone else mentioned, its getting extremely difficult to source up replacement parts, and this is me saying it despite me working for the company that built that plane (take a guess which company). I dislike seeing them at work mostly tho because they are incredibly frustrating to work on as little attention was paid on the maintenance staff actually being able to access aircraft systems or replace important parts.

[@stanktail]

Holy crap. This is why people use Netjets

[@sk1dz833]

@@stanktail funny you say that, they are probably our biggest customer. Planes from them are mostly well kept so Maintenance on them tends to be rather Problem free except from stuff they usually cant influence.

[@chriskonop469]

Engine TBO is 5,000 hours if they’re on warranty programs. The Premier is a fantastic airplane that is plagued by parts and support issues. Amazing cabin, great maintenance schedule, strong and lightweight, and goes way faster than anything else in its class. There are some high dollar hard to find parts these days, but overall it’s a great airplane. I wish Cessna/Textron didn’t kill it when they bought Beech. Flew and managed one for 13 years.

[@flyingconsultant1070]

I own a Premier and I fully subscribe to your comme. However, the parts issue you can also see with many business aircrafts in production. When I did my research, this was not a factor for me anymore. But it is true that spar parts are sometimes an issue like with many other business aircrafts in production.

[@ashleeducote7913]

I've owned a Premier for 6 years and have no parts or support issues. I hear this all of the time, especially from Citation people who are trying to justify paying double for smaller cabins and lower speeds. I am very happy with my Premier and would not trade it for any other light jet. The legs are my only complaint but for the acquisition price, operating cost, cabin size and speed, it simply has no peers.

[@stresswes]

​@@ashleeducote7913Do you still have the Premier Jet and have you experienced any corrosion or other maintenance issues to this day?

[@bartofilms]

I also first saw the Beech/Hawker Premier 1A on Greg’s P1D youtube channel. There’s a relatively young P1A type rated channel out there who does a more critical review of the Premier 1A in terms of its layout and avionics. Noteworthy were his criticisms of the original ProLine avionics. When compared to modern equivalents from Garmin, they are much heavier, taking up almost 1/2 of the starboard nose. He also found that the pre-flight procedures take longer than other aircraft in the class. He said that approach plates can take a long time to load, like 40 minutes or more and that the processing power of the early 2000’s ProLine is but a fraction of the latest available glass from Collins and/or Garmin. Also no externally serviceable potty and no thrust reverse capabilities. The Positives: Taller and Wider than average cabin; Better than average Useful Load; Solid feel and predictable maneuvering/stall character. High Speed, Good Time to Climb and Ceiling of FL41. Bottom Line: A single pilot, Mach .8 jet with Williams engines and Textron/Beech support, I doubt one could find a more economical executive jet for flights under 1,000nm.

[@DealorG]

As always, awesome video

[@stanktail]

Cool little jet of you have maintained well and kept away from salty air. Looks like a robin about to lay eggs with the way the fuselage tapers down to the wings.

[@wesmcgee1648]

They're great jets. Climb out is fast especially with one occupant.

[@markushandlemeyer6717]

Ditto to positive comments on the Premier. Awesome light jet ; fastest single-pilot jet in the world, a near standup cabin (match that CJ, Phenom or Honda!). The only deficiencies are its (only a very rudimentary) lavatory - and more importantly, its payload vs range performance. Max IFR range of 1,500 nm but if you want to go with 6 pax over 900 nm, forget it. The P2 made this and other excellent improvements but sadly, Bernie Madoff and Lehman Brothers killed the bizjet market for years and killed Beech's P2 and bankrupted Beech itself forcing it to be gobbled up by its arch-competitor - who woulda thunk it ?!

[@BillyJ10]

Love This Jet

[@jameskim62]

You are right on the money. I got to ride in it with Jack Roush few times. GREAT AIRPLANE. Too bad 2 wasn't developed.

[@Pilotc180]

Thats one person I would not want to ride with😀

[@jameskim62]

@@Pilotc180 I declined a ride in his P51

[@stanktail]

I'd rather hunt with Dick Cheney than fly with Jack Roush. Congrats....pin on medal, SURVIVED

[@stanktail]

@@jameskim62 I wouldn't get in a Ford Mustang with him nevermind a P51

[@jean-pierrehilbert2273]

I have 1800h in the Premier 1, a 2003 Model, great machine! I wonder if the flap problems, the spoiler problems and the tail de-ice problems were ever solved? Also, my airplane burned through PFDs like student's toaster burns bread.

[@richardkrentz7553]

Who said it was unpopular. This is one of the most efficient comfortable single pilot jet you can own for the money. Ask Greg from P1D.

[@XX-166]

Ask him about the maintenance and cost per hour. Greg’s a millionaire so he’s gonna have a good view of the plane he flies all the time.

[@jonbanner1]

@@XX-166 what jet isn't a maintenance hog? I'm sure Greg considered the cost of the maintenance in his decision.

[@XX-166]

@@jonbanner1 different jets different costs per hour and year. Do your homework Forrest and you’ll be wiser about the subject

[@XX-166]

@Aviation Dreamers head back downstairs to your mommies basement and finish your ham sandwich and Cheetos and Minecraft games Forrest.

[@ibnusahari]

This model just crashed in Malaysia last week. Nose dive onto a car on the ground, killing the driver, including 8 onboard. The fire ball from the crash burned and killed another motorcyclist, making a total of 10 souls perished from the accident.

[@lcprivatepilot1969]

Bring back an updated version of the STARSHIP!!

[@ryanh1222]

This makes me LOL! I have two of these on a charter certificate.

[@JeremyBechtold]

Great video. I like the narrator in this much better than prior videos. No offense, but the other narrator sounded computer generated. Very informative and great content. And I agree, premiere1driver is a great channel.

[@Dwaynesaviation]

Thanks for the review.. I've listened to everyone and decided to effect changes... Do you think I should stick with this narrator?

[@JeremyBechtold]

@@Dwaynesaviation I do. More personable and he has a better speaking tempo. I know it's hard writing a script and making sure everything is pronounced correctly as to not confuse anyone. I watch other channels that have some issues with pronunciation, maybe slang or just a regional dialect and it comes across as cringe.. at least to me. I run an aviation focused YT channel and I worry about all of that. Thankfully the owner of the company has a good speaking voice, so if I have to do voiceover work, I'm not too worried because I hate my own voice. Keep up the good work! I learn a lot about other aircraft from your channel.

[@Dwaynesaviation]

Thank you very much Jeremy

[@farwalker3672]

@@JeremyBechtold Agreed. I like this narrator much better myself.

[@darrellbedford4857]

@@Dwaynesaviation f course, this narrator has a nicer human sounding voice.

[@robinj.9329]

As I recall, most Insurance Companies will not let you off the ground unless you have TWO PILOTS that meet all of "their" requirements for training, experience, etc. So, why get a "Single Pilot" jet at all? (I want TWO fully trained pilots in the front of my 1930's designed Beech 18 !!!)

[@bobharrison7693]

Insurance for Part 91 single pilot ops was no problem right out of training. FAA was OK with single pilot part 135 ops but insurance required 2 pilots for part 135 flights.

[@majapashit666]

This one crashed in malaysia today i think same model

[@cabinvibenet5777]

New sub ! Liked 🐸🙏😊✌️☺️😃

[@macangunung8969]

Can anyone help me? I just want to know is it just one unit black box in this premier 1...?

[@bobharrison7693]

??????

[@tracemitchell2093]

I would love t see a comparison of this and the Honda jet

[@johnyoungs7453]

Amen. But while I'm sorry to say this, the Honda jet is absolutely butt-ass-ugly with those wing-mounted engines. The guy who was responsible for that design must've been on some heavy drugs...!!

[@tracemitchell2093]

@@johnyoungs7453I think its awesome and functional it’s practical you get 50cuft of baggage because of the engine placement

[@tracemitchell2093]

@@johnyoungs7453 it’s also faster, flies higher burns less fuel and has a longer range full usable lav and more room than any other jet in the class

[@richysuphiy]

Dont select lift/dump in flight!!!

[@michaelrosa5410]

I thought Beechcraft and Cessna are the same company ?

[@pencai-6868]

SUDAH TERHEMPAS MAT

[@BillyJ10]

👍

[@lancehoward6714]

And it looks like a penguin.

[@charlesdobrovolny7059]

Looks like a fat minivan. Even a CE550 looks better IMO.

[@matthewhaslam3219]

No. They're not

[@Optimus-Prime-Rib]

The most mechanically unreliable jet i have ever flown. Fun when it worked. We would take bets on whether it could do 5 sectors before being grounded. Rubbish airplane.

[@ashleeducote7913]

I've got over 2200 hours in a Premier and could not disagree with you more. It is a Citation killer which is why Textron grabbed it and is doing everything it can to make it die. The Premier is simply the best light jet I have ever seen when it comes to acquisition price, speed, cabin size and fuel efficiency.

[@antaresqamar]

Crashed on highway in Malaysia recently..but thats not the point..all type of aircraft crashed as well everywhere BUT dont mention Excellent when only CVR is available without black box to record all details of acft functions during post accident.

[@anastrading1815]

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