Why the Bulls Should NOT Trade Up In the Draft to Get Donovan Clingan

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Discussing the recent reports and rumors of the Bulls looking to trade up in the draft to select Donovan Clingan.
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[@_Tahmar]

Whatever we don’t want the Bulls to do in the draft, best believe they will do it.

[@lilbfrom094princeton8]

This is true

[@swaymcthunder1219]

​@lilbfrom094princeton8 as much as I hate to admit it, this man is speaking facts

[@BullsCentral]

lol

[@too2manyjs698]

It's like they get their ideas from reading the comments and trying to prove us wrong. This could be a grand social experiment...lol

[@_Tahmar]

@@too2manyjs698 🤣 Man it’s so depressing being a fan of this team. We haven’t had heart and soul since Noah was here. I miss that team so much.

[@masterkingedd1144]

Clingan would come in and immediately fill a need for the Bulls💯Shot Blocking and overall Size..I wouldn’t mind making a move long as we not giving up too much

[@collumnthomas7915]

But we can literally get edey or kelel ware (who can shoot unlike clingan) with the number 11 pick. I think we should try and trade vooch or demar to grizzlies for the 9nth pick so that way we can draft a wing along with a big. But yeah drafting a big NEEDS to be first

[@mikemade1211]

Trade down, grab kel el ware.

[@collumnthomas7915]

They need to get grizzlies pick since i hear they are shopping it . They’ll prob take vooch. Plus, there’s no guarantee as to how far down ware will go so that’s kinda risky

[@3912James]

Dude has a bit of an injury history. Because of this I'm not too high on drafting him.

[@lilbfrom094princeton8]

That’s fair… Good to see some Bulls fans have had enough of injuries.

[@collumnthomas7915]

Kelel ware or Zach edey good alternatives

[@jeffbartlett8565]

I'm absolutely checking the "no" box on trading up to 3, maybe if he fell to possibly 7, however, there are good options at 11 (not great) Williams, Holland, Knecht and 4 or so more options

[@PoorlyUtilized]

This would be such a bulls move

[@BullsCentral]

Indeed

[@jesussamurai8433]

So let me get this straight you dont want a rebuild, you dont want the bulls to trade, you dont want them to move up in the draft. So what exactly should the bulls do? Or are you on the AK “run it back” “we want to stay competitive” “Lonzo will come back and salvage the team”.

[@collumnthomas7915]

Keep the 11nth pick, try to trade for 9nth pick since grizzlies apparently are shopping it for a win now player so prob trade vooch or derozan. All in all bulls need to draft a center, NOT A WING( unless we get an extra pick). And they need to move on from lavine, vooch and hopefully derozan. Everybody else can stay

[@JayRandom2013]

@@collumnthomas7915none of these big are good enough to prioritize tbh

[@dikrantorian1311]

I would not give up any assets to move up. I would stay at 11 and pick whoever is available of the following three: 1. Matas Buzelis, 2. Kel'el Ware, or 3. Zach Edey. Or if all 3 are available at 11, I would probably pick Matas Buzelis or perhaps move down, pick up some assets, and then still pick one of the 3 players I want.

[@vondg4]

I personally like the idea of trading up to get Clingan as long as we aren’t giving up anything more than Caruso and 1 of either our #11 pick or more preferably that Portland pick. Also I think people saying “this isn’t the draft to trade up in” doesn’t mean much. Normally you can’t trade up in a stacked draft anyways because nobody wants to trade out of a pick like that. The reason this works is because none of the top prospects in this draft works for the Rockets really so it’s a prime time to trade up. Clingan is one of the most intriguing prospects in this draft in my opinion and at the end of the day is the Bulls see something special in him I can’t knock them for going after their guy. I’m a fan of Kel’el Ware personally but part of that is because I felt like Clingan was just out of reach for us @11

[@nubastyle]

I do not! Kalel Ware is better in every aspect and is a 42% 3point shooter at 7.1 More Athletic, excellent shhoter and defender. A Steal! Standing pat is the best option unless its in the Top 3. Eddy is a 7.4 Joker. Slow but effective. For him i would hipe we trade Zach to get Orlando's #18 pick and Johnathan Isaac.

[@JayRandom2013]

@@nubastylehe shot 1.7 3s a game and shot below 70% at the FT line, trust me he isn’t an excellent shooter

[@BallGuy-pm8pz]

@@nubastyle The deciding factor for clingan is 2 National Titles. I will go with the winner every time.

[@dtflore6]

Last 2x champion big man we got? Joakim noah.

[@CHI-JORDAN-CHI]

Oh yeah this is totally the same lol

[@user-jl9tj6vv8g]

He’s a winner brah like I don’t be understanding these takes frfr cuz these guys can and will be the total opposite of what y’all predict they will be in the nba he’s basically a taller walker kessler imo and Bulls fan would have killed to get walker so why not clingan I say give him a chance cuz trading some assets that I personally don’t think aren’t all that great and isn’t going to even touch the floor come playoffs isn’t going to matter if they do if for clingan

[@julyvincentdelapiedra741]

Would be nice getting him without giving up the 11th pick. So we can still draft at our original position

[@leaderboardsports]

Agree. I would not trade up for Cling Kong. If you trade up I would target Sarr, Risacher or Holland. Maybe if you can get #3 for AC only. I would just stay at #11 and take a solid player.

[@mattchy1821]

I’m so glad I’m not the only one that sees bro as a role player. Truth be told I don’t think he’s gonna be good in the slightest

[@WillEvans15]

I think back in 2022 we missed big time at #17 with Terry and you had a guy like Walker Kessler there who at the time was the best rim protector coming out of college. He has a little more upside than him at 7’2. In a weak draft class he may be one of the best if not the best coming out of this draft. Nothing to lose at our position. We are a play in team with or without Caruso or LaVine.

[@user-nn6ow3xt5o]

I don’t know what they were thinking. Maybe they thought since they had Drummond they didn’t have a need for him? I just don’t know why any team that doesn’t have a lot of size would pass on a rim protector like that.

[@saltysolution4127]

Why are people high on Clingan? I would still prefer college Walker Kessler over him

[@dikrantorian1311]

They should have picked Kessler. They missed out on him, so maybe they're thinking Clingan is the guy to get this time. He has a higher chance of being a bust than a productive starter. I'd pick Matas Buzelis, Kel'el Ware, or Zach Edey.

[@BallGuy-pm8pz]

@@dikrantorian1311 2 National Titles is the difference.

[@dikrantorian1311]

@BallGuy-pm8pz Two national titles don't necessarily mean a whole lot. Christian Laettner did that too, was also the national player of the year (so that's comparable to Clingan + Eddy) and was on the US Olympic dream team. Can't beat that resume. How did his NBA career turn out? 🤷‍♂️

[@BallGuy-pm8pz]

@@dikrantorian1311 In this new era, you have to get big man and Clingan is known for his defense and that's where the Bulls should start. Clingan is 280 and 7'2 at 20.

[@Frank-hv7xj]

Just randomly curious. Say Derrick Lively was in this draft and knowing what he is capable of. Is Lively to you worth trading up for? Just asking because im seeing some comparisons Clingan to Lively

[@dikrantorian1311]

Lively is a lob threat. This clunky Clingan isn't. Just saying. 🤷‍♂️

[@sachikoisara1183]

He does not fill a current need. I'd only use a 3rd pick to fill a current more immediate need such as the one vacated by a departing PF. (Williams)

[@strictlyent2236]

I thought going up for clingan would be a good move but I see a lot of other bulls fans against it

[@BullsCentral]

Just depends on how much they would have to sacrifice to move up

[@maco34576]

Meh I wouldn’t be that mad tbh. Give me anything at this point 😂

[@tylenhudson2913]

Caruso to Houston for the #3 Jabari Smith jr, Tari Eason. This is sorta what knicks got from Toronto for Anonuby. Or trade Lavine & Drummond to Houston for Jalen Green, Dillion Brooks, Tari Eason, and the #3 pick or Lavine to Detroit for Jaden Ivey, Wiseman, Isaiah Stewart for #5 pick ( Matas Buzelis). Then lastly, Zach Lavine and #11 to San Antonio for #4(Matas Buzelis) & #8(Kel’el Ware).

[@JayRandom2013]

Yall are bonkers lmao

[@bdailey8065]

Caruso straight up for the #3 pick, any additional compensation then no unless it's just someone like Dalen Terry.

[@lilbfrom094princeton8]

Bulls really have to scout this one. It’s not like the front office has a Ryan Poles.

[@breadwinner92]

I dont why your against it alex Caruso value is going to start to decline at the start of next year if your not going to extend him and giving him 25 million for a team looking for salary cap relief and looking to resign demar is a horrible look

[@3912James]

I hoped the Bulls traded Caruso this past February.

[@breadwinner92]

​@@3912JamesI even said to trade the veterans last off-season when everyone was trading all there assets to get star players before the new salary rules came into effect but here we are conunity

[@lilbfrom094princeton8]

Not worried about Caruso… He just made All NBA Defense AGAIN.

[@breadwinner92]

@lilbfrom094princeton8 but he's up for a extention this year that's probably 20 or 25 million a year and if he's not going to sign it I would look to trade him because having him walk for nothing is even worse

[@arteksta1943]

Didn’t they say the same thing about Jokic? Not athletic, clumsy and slow

[@mr.z9309]

As Spurs fan, would you take off your proctections on the 2025 pick(top10) for our 8th pick and a 2nd round pick? Lmk

[@BullsCentral]

No

[@mr.z9309]

@@BullsCentral 😂 had to ask

[@joaopferreira77]

I will trade Caruso for a top pick but with no draft picks involved.

[@ksteelegaming9561]

Buddy we need player to delvlope we are rebuilding

[@lemonrancher1037]

Bro what do u want

[@BallinVlogs]

I Disagreed We need a Center

[@jamesjamison5574]

If he kinda fall why not the 11th an that Portland pick we not goin to get

[@sammysam2615]

As long as Gar/Pax 2.0 and Jerry are still around, the wrong decisions will be made

[@Ghosthead83]

My question is is this really to draft a trade up for anybody?

[@BullsCentral]

No, it's not.

[@LongTimeBullsFan]

I’d have to respectfully disagree. Tired of watching teams drive comfortably to the paint against Vucevic. Take a look at what Derrick Lively has impacted the mavericks this season

[@221ddj]

I think the Bulls are gonna take some obscure guy from a Euroleague team. With this draft class being as forgettable as they come, this is the year to take the chance. It sucks that we don't have our 2025 pick, when the class is expected to be decent, that's the one thing AKME has been terrible at. Bulls have won 0 trades in their tenure and 0 sign and trades. We've woefully lost them all actually.

[@yegrosal]

he makes Luke Kornet look fluid. Why not just sign a guy like Luke Kornet?

[@MyungHanYoo]

Why not offer the pick swap + Lavine to move up? Will teams not see that as a good option?

[@dcoopthemann]

Personally, I don't get it. He looks like a 2nd. rounder to me. I know - in the 21st. CENTURY there are people who "STILL BELIEVE" you draft the "BIG MAN", etc, no matter what. I'm "NOT" one of them. I'm "OLD ENOUGH" and "KNOW ENOUGH" and "LEANED ENOUGH" to remember the Trailblazers drafting Sam Bowie (I don't count Houston drafting Akeem Olajuwon, 'cause he was a "DIFFERENT BEAST") "OVER" Michael Jordan, basically just because he was a "BIG MAN." And I'm DAMN SURE NOT "TRADING UP" to get him. THAT'S DEFINITELY OUT. SIDE NOTE: This draft - and off-season - is going to be HUGE - at least to me, for the Bulls. "IF" the Bulls don't get something substantial going, it might be time to "MOVE ON" from AK, too. I already think it's about time they "MOVE ON" from Donovan. I've seen enough of what he's "DOING" or should I say, "NOT DOING."

[@thehappyhermit01]

Because there's no players worth trading up for in this draft. Plain and simple.

[@dougmcbuckets1723]

If the bulls trade up what happens to VUC

[@breadwinner92]

Probably going to get traded as well there try to unload vuc as well but thats only if they found there center of the future

[@lilbfrom094princeton8]

Vuc would be a trading asset before his contract is up if the Bulls get mess around and draft the right guy.

[@jolandcarreon5554]

trade paw lavine and caruso and 11 pk for jalen green

[@Tonyvontony]

That's way too much

[@franklinscarlett9698]

Look if this is the guy they want. Why not???? Would not do something stupid but if they see something in him that they can develop and build. Why not???? Because this team needs to have a better second team. Look the playoffs now second team play has determined a lot of these series but if they think this guy can to develop into something to have an impact. Why not??.......I just don't take the NBA draft seriously. These guys are 4-5 year projects. More than likely he is going to be in the G league he is not to be on the opening roster if he is not in the rotation. You just don't know about the draft. These idiots that call themselves draft experts are 90% wrong years down the road. I would even waste time crying about the draft because you don't know who the bust is and who the star is.......

[@Ahmuh312]

Well it doesn’t matter because the bulls are going to draft the literal worse player that they possibly can.

[@blankblank6853]

Actually watch the prospect before making a video like this man. It comes off as lazy when you don't even put in the time to watch the prospect and judge them.

[@BullsCentral]

What makes you think I didn't watch him. You can assess a player's abilities based on their mixed tapes, their numbers and stock grades

[@blankblank6853]

@@BullsCentral 5:22 "I mean I watched this guy play granted I only saw him a bit in the tournament and just highlight footage" What makes me think you don't watch the prospect in depth are your own words. If you think you can rely on others opinions instead of actually watching the prospect in depth before giving a take like this we can agree to disagree.

[@walker1984]

Draft Bronny with our first. That would be about the same as doing something like trading up

[@edzinser9143]

With the number one pick in the draft via trade the Chicago bulls take Bronny James……….

[@IrishDark]

Bro AK isn't doing shit plus he will be nothing but a average role olayer at best

[@zoaaa7598]

First

[@user-rq7ym1jr9z]

I agree trading up is stupid. If anything trade back with a team like Cleveland depending on who they trade away before the draft if anyone. I can make a case that it's fair value to trade zach and pick 11 to Cleveland for one of mitchell, garland or Allen. I'd feel far better short and longterm trading back and landing either of those Cleveland guards and the messi/missi guy from Baylor or landing Allen and collier from usc over trading up for anyone in this draft. Of course three years from now whoever went pick 6-26 will be the first overall pick in mock redrafts