Why the EU's Right-Wing Groups Are Fighting Over Meloni

[@ChineseKiwi]

Someone had fun creating that thumbnail 😂

[@TheBooban]

Come on Barbie, let’s go party!

[@fredelboricua_5676]

Frrrrr😂😂😂

[@suckalamink]

AHAHAHHAH

[@Solid_Snake99]

FORZA ITALIA ORGOGLIO ITALIANO 🟢⚪🔴

[@1FDerek]

European politics is like the revenge of the blondes.

[@cgt3704]

This feels like a scene from a "teen" movie where every boy tries to win over the most popular girl in school

[@TheAtomoh]

Most popular fascist girl

[@Jafantant]

Oooffffff

[@HOI4notsoproplayer]

​@@TheAtomohcalling meloni fascist is the same level as calling the CSA fascist. Its not.

[@资深老司机-u1r]

Giogia is indeed the popular girl😂

[@aureliengdt5932]

@@szaszm_ wrong marine le pen is not fascist

[@maxmichalik4938]

Meloni's dominance over the ECR is so big, she's the group's leader without being an MEP. Why would she give this up instead of, at best, lending Von Der Leyen temporary support?

[@dai-belizariusz3087]

isnt pis bigger in ECR?

[@tepesobrejac4360]

@@dai-belizariusz3087 As number of MEPs, yes. But FdI is governing a country, while PIS is not. Moreover, Italy is much bigger as an economy and as a population than Poland. And to add on that, PIS became a pariah in European politics and as such they don't have much influence outside the ECR, while Meloni managed to collaborate with Brussels increasing her influence on the European stage.

[@maxmichalik4938]

@@tepesobrejac4360 To add to everything you said, there is a very good chance that FdL will be a much bigger part of the ECR MEP wise too after these next elections. They are going from 9 MEPs to very likely over 20. PiS is projected to lose around one third of their current seats.

[@tepesobrejac4360]

@@maxmichalik4938 Correct

[@oceanwave4502]

Von Der Leyen must go. She has been dragging EU into ideological wars around the world, instead of focusing on what truly matters. We need pragmatism in Europe!

[@Brown95P]

Meloni has had one of the biggest 180's I've ever seen in modern european history; not even Mussolini was this desired by his austrian counterpart.

[@VYZD846]

😂😂😂

[@Boretheory]

He actually was that’s the funny thing. Germany specifically went in Spain to get close to ita

[@nox5555]

@@Boretheory yeah but that was before they saw the sorry state of italy.

[@spaniardsrmoors6817]

@@Boretheory Italy was the main contributor to the Nationalist victory in Spain, not Germany.

[@spaniardsrmoors6817]

@@nox5555 What sorry state? Italy's Empire turned out to be as large as the German colonial/Nazi empires combined. It was Germany's betrayal that promised Italy 3 years to prepare (Pact of Steel) then invaded Poland 4 months later without notifying Italy, dragging an unprepared Italy into WWII and disaster. Same with Japan, invaded Pearl Harbor, never notifying Italy or Germany, bringing in America and guaranteeing an Allied victory. With Allies like those, Italy didn't need enemies.

[@rixorobert]

I would say she is probably gonna stay in the middle and profit from both sides by trying to attract parties from both the EPP and ID to the ECR

[@NP3GA]

Meloni is just going through her harem protagonist ark

[@strawberrykun6136]

This is killing me

[@JamilaJibril-e8h]

😂😂😂😂

[@adrianion6559]

😂😂😂😂

[@Lumi7708]

So modi got ntr

[@NP3GA]

@@Lumi7708 isn't the fat bastard the one that NTR's others usually?

[@frb1808]

Great analysis! Please check your pronunciation of _Fidesz_ tho. It's just FEE-des, since it's Magyar, not Polish.

[@wile123456]

I don't have high hopes when the same channel pronounces nVidia as Nuh-vidia

[@frb1808]

@@wile123456 ohhhh...

[@tobi6891]

And the sz is pronounced like a single s in English and not like an sh.

[@monkeeseemonkeedoo3745]

@@tobi6891 I KNEW IT. One thing I remembered

[@RandoTheRando]

I like hearing TLDR mispronounce things, also Robert Fiko

[@clpwhitechapel3713]

The notion that Meloni would consider entering the EPP is entirely fanciful.

[@ad_astra468]

Not at all her own government has Tajani as its foreign minister who is a massive EPP member.

[@lucaventinove3151]

@@ad_astra468 Yeah but she and her party are not at all aligned with the EPP. Her electoral base is very critical of the EPP, as it's seen as the "establishment"

[@ad_astra468]

@@lucaventinove3151 You mean the same electoral base she has been telling “Italy will make itself heard in Europe” and “Italy will change Europe” over and over? It’s very easy for Meloni to get its voter base to support her being part of the establishment as long as she turns EU policy more right wing and is vocal about it.

[@urubissoldat5452]

Agreed if she joins the EPP, she's dooming her party at home

[@lucaventinove3151]

@@ad_astra468 Those messages are exactly why she won't join the EPP, those messages are by definition anti establishment because the rhetoric is based on populist appeal on Meloni's ability to shake up things. She won't join the EPP, at most she'll try to ally her party with the EPP in Bruxelles but that's a very different thing to outright join

[@CaravaggioRoma]

she is incredibly clever and well prepared on any single political matter, either domestic politics and geopolitics. I have never witnessed such an energic and well prepared politician in the last 20 years in Italy.

[@user-tt8um8xn4q]

No she is not. She is just excellent at giving populist speeches. Every time she talks about some matter she just fakes up data or attacks easy targets (for example the leftists, the immigrants, the LGBTQ community). She never takes the blame for the unsuccessful actions of her government and instead tries to censor the press taking control of the national TV and reporting all the journalists who criticise her lead. She hasn't even got a degree though (she has only graduated from high school) so she definitely doesn't know anything about law (both domestic and foreign).

[@chuck948]

She won by lying about everything. Migration is at all time high in Italy she is a traitor

[@JohnDoe-mt7ws]

She has failed on one of her main pledges: controlling illegal immigration. She can only talk and play politics for so long. Eventually, voters would want to see what they are paying for

[@danny2518]

Are you her husband or smuck?

[@danny2518]

What are you doing about the invasion laying out the red carpet?

[@Froge0]

This is the type of Pride Month content we want to see

[@Bottleofwater-n5y]

Just because She's doing a good job Will never mean her ideologies are justified ;)

[@maszlagma]

​@Sage3356 I believe the original comment was sarcastic. Meloni is famously anti LGBTQ...

[@nathangaytano1431]

Fr this shit sounds like a Lesbian tv drama with like dramatic editing and stuff

[@captainvanisher988]

I wonder what we'll get for Greed Month and Gluttony Month. But what I am most excited about is Sloth Month.

[@user-df1ns1ob8y]

⁠@@captainvanisher988Gluttony month: three videos a day, all with bad audio and no image Greed month: every video costs 5€ to watch Sloth moth: no videos

[@hits_different]

As an italian, she’s not THE worst. She’s got a good reputation now cause in Europe they were expecting a new mussolini, but hers turned out to be a rather normal government

[@tobiisiba1641]

They weren't expecting anything they were just fear mongering,she is doing everything she said she will do, the media where the ones going over the top with their discrption as usual.

[@liljanasufaj4130]

She is too smart. She is being a pragmatist, choosing whatever suits her......

[@danny2518]

@alessandrof.6546 Exactly just like Obama did in America. He promised to bring us all together and give us transparency! The exact oposite is what we got! Doomed, even now!

[@danny2518]

@alessandrof.6546 Obama did the same in the USA!

[@thedread2597]

@alessandrof.6546 Not at all, she took out the reddito di cittadinanza, she convinced the european commission to help her make anti immigration deals with african nations (after an increase in 2022 she managed to bring immigration back down), she is now finally touching the healthcare system etc. She's going slowly since she had a lot of issues to deal with the first year, but she is more or less following her program. Could she do more? Sure, but she's arguably the most proactive government in a while

[@helomynameisJessica]

Orban's party's name (Fidesz) is pronounced with an English 's' sound (like the one in snake) instead of a 'sh' sound (like the one in shake)...

[@indefatigable8193]

It’s the way she touches her face, emotes wildly with her hands and slouches that makes me want to ditch my socialism.

[@jackyex]

Seduced by Fascism, in the literal uttermost meaning of the word.

[@andybrice2711]

Perhaps you could create a synthesis of the two ideologies. A kind of _National Sociali…_ OH WAIT NO NOT THAT!

[@dustingh]

@@andybrice2711 Or maybe a type of National _Bolshevism_ ?

[@miniaturejayhawk8702]

​@@dustingh thats pretty much the same minus the anti-semitism so what is your point exactly? Any notion that one could conclude from thinking about your suggestion would just end up proving hitlers point.

[@fakestiv]

wtf did I just read? 😂

[@konradferenczy1770]

Great video, as always. Just a correction: it's pronounced "fides", not "fidesh".

[@claram5482]

"Italy's LaLiga" 😂

[@JamilaJibril-e8h]

😂😂😂😂😂 Ayyyyo

[@HondaTiger56]

Remember when all the media compared her to Mussolini and called her a fasicst 🤣🤡

[@soundscape26]

Her past surely indicated that but once in power she obviously softened her approach to certain issues.

[@armingleiner5292]

​@@soundscape26 The media thinks anybody who doesnt love the Greens or other far left parties is a fascist.

[@Stinkstiefel69]

Could be because she is... It's more telling, that the EPP is willing to work with the far right

[@Solid_Snake99]

@@soundscape26 bs. GO MELONI !

[@aguspuig6615]

@@soundscape26 well thats every right wing politician in europe, they are all considered fascists until proven otherwise, and often after proven otherwise

[@juann1492]

Why would she join Marine Lepen? It would make more sense that lepen joined meloni, an italian lider would have it easier uniting the conservative parties of southern and eastern europe

[@Minimmalmythicist]

pfff could you see a French ultra reactionary want to accept Italian leadership?

[@dai-belizariusz3087]

eastern europe? like belarus and russia?

[@gerihuginn2143]

@@dai-belizariusz3087 you know that belarus and russia are not in EU right ?

[@YgalSharon]

France is generally considered western Europe and is the carrefour of most European corners if we're talking geopolitics.

[@teaser6089]

​@@YgalSharon I mean it's South Western

[@samgeorgo]

why do you keep referring to these parties as ‘far right’? right wing doesn’t mean far right please learn some history

[@blakeskolnick6750]

You understand that far right means relative to the political spectrum. Its why the title of the video is right-wing because coalitions of center right-wing and far right wing parties are different

[@garethbrown9191]

Possible more parties will join the European Conservatives & Reformists, away from the European People's Party and Identity & Democracy groups.

[@JaegerDreadful]

5:56 You forgot that the PVV is also part of the I&D group, and projected to win 9 seats so not really small.

[@ldubt4494]

Yes but they currently dont have seats yet.

[@Salvatore...23]

Meloni's party will take 25 seats and her two allies 16 seats, 57 MEPs, a good number

[@yookalaylee2289]

She’s attractive. Mystery solved

[@dunnowy123]

Ah yes, nothing to do with her being one of the most popular and successful right wing populists of the last 5 years.

[@AbrahamCasillas-t3o]

She looks like my tia.

[@bahamabartokmajestikassbis5240]

@@AbrahamCasillas-t3o your what?

[@ricequackers]

But the two suitors are also women...wait are you trying to write some European Parliament fanfiction? 😂

[@stefanoriva1738]

Are you sure? In italy we say that she looks like Gollum! But we are used to beautiful women...

[@FS-ft8ri]

Please dont join Ursula. She is overdue to leave the parlament with all these scandals...

[@martijn8554]

She's never been in the European parliament

[@Alexander_the_Greatest]

And the wifi terrible under the sea

[@SeanArrenMoscoso]

Then you haven't seen what the swedish social democrats are then

[@barbthegreat586]

Which scandals?

[@marilynlucero9363]

Did they change the thumbnail or am I missing something? Lol

[@GD-jc3wx]

Loved the thumbnail lol

[@XTSu-sl1bb]

Protect Europe

[@DeKevers]

Is this racist or asking for defence against threats like Russia?

[@selmaa6x]

​@@DeKeversThe first option, evidently. These people are unconcerned about Russia; I think that’s the least of their issues

[@shakirghazali2890]

Why ?

[@IHATEGOOGLESOMUCHFUCK]

From russia

[@TylerSolvestri]

@@IHATEGOOGLESOMUCHFUCKAnd Islamist, and from its own incompetence also

[@DirtySancheeezz]

I saw her black shirt friends at meetings....My grandpa that was born in Dalmatia remembers how the folks with same clothing killed his mother and father in 1943

[@GRegBellay]

7:41 Guys, Fidesz is pronunced [ˈfidɛs], not 'fidesh'. You always mess this up, like Robert Fico's name.

[@marcpaul6727]

Not all of us are Magyars... plus [fides] sounds extremely weird. That 'sh' sound just souds natural.

[@frb1808]

@@marcpaul6727 Still wrong, tho. Also, _Fidesz_ may just be Magyarized _fides_ from Latin, so it may not actually be that unusual.

[@marcpaul6727]

@@frb1808 Bro, FIDESZ is an acronym. And what has Latin to do with this? Hungarian isn't even of Indo-European origin and languages originating from PIE (or Latin, in this case) have transformed a lot.

[@frb1808]

@@marcpaul6727 I said it's Magyarized, not Magyar per se. Does Magyar need to be IE to borrow a word, respell it in its own way, and make an acronym out of it?

[@marcpaul6727]

@@frb1808 What??? Use Google and search for the meaning of FIDESZ. It has nothing to do with latin word "fides" and no, you can not "borrow a word and then make an acronym out of it" - how could you even do that?? How could you make an acronym from a single word? Take the L for not knowing your shiet.

[@AlokKumar-ue7ft]

We demand modi's picture in the thumbnail!!😂😂😂

[@029_rafeehidayat3]

nahh that thumbnail is something else

[@Hemalkukurkure]

Bro what is this thumbnail? 😂😂

[@busysaru888]

If you want to make a sausage, sometimes you need a little baloney.

[@motahmahendrenath7869]

She is a top model, blonde, attractive and wise - which is a rare commodity among female rulers - she seems to be the only one in front of all the other machos with brains, wisdom and common sense !!

[@JesusOrDestruction]

Not really a whiz when it comes to European politics but why don’t all of them form a coalition together? Why only one or the other?

[@felicepompa938]

Cause the EPP announced that they won't back, nor form a government with ID. ID is an oddball of right wing populist with crazy ideas and nobody wants to work with them. Until the AfD was kicked out they were in, and their leader gave a speech saying "The SS were just people, it is wrong to consider them monsters..migrants even those Who acquired citizenship must be forcefully repatriated.." when your gang says Bullshit like this nobody is working with you

[@jirivegner3711]

Because such a coalition would be too large, covering too large portions of left-right spectrum. With proportional representation there is little pressure to form "big tent" parties. It is usually better to have smaller, more focused parties.

[@issadraco532]

@@jirivegner3711 sure.. don't unite guys, it's gonna be bad for you! it's best if you stay divided and fight against one another so that we can pull off our radical leftist tricks and smoke you. that way even if you win and the people vote for you and support your ideas and policies, you still don't get to achieve anything or even pick a leader that represents you. just like that trump looking guy from i think the netherlands or whatever it was. elected by the people on strong european values and mandate to shut down the border and deport all the illegals back to where they came from, but then of course sneaky leftists come in and put together their dirty little dishonest schemes and block him from becoming president. so now even though the people elected a strong leader, they end up with some weak limp-wristed leftist that will just continue all of the policies that they voted against. great job.. yep, don't unite guys, trust me it's bad for you, us democrats are just looking out for your best interests here! hah!

[@herman65]

Because the EPP is a center-right block, while both the ECR and ID groups contain a lot of far-right parties that are impossible to work together with. Many of those parties are trying to dismantle the EU because they hate it. They are very nationalist and some of them even support Putin.

[@Notsogoodguitarguy]

If you got two diametrically opposed parties in a coalition, you'll literally get nothing done. Just look at Germany. FDP and the Greens are basically arch enemies, yet they're in a coalition. And now nothing gets done. Some wild, hair-brained schemes get approved, which a normally-functioning government would never do. E.g. pension reform, the building of the hydrogen infrastructure, etc.

[@adambartlett6277]

The ECR is not "far right" please stop calling them that. They are right wing but not far right

[@Lioness-of-Italy]

Call her Giorgia 💐🌹.. please 🇮🇹

[@MAN-MILK]

Reasons: 1. She's a decelerationist (which means she's moving the overton window to the right very slowly, which can be annoying but she is pusbing back against immigration, so thats cool) 2. She wins elections 3. She's attractive

[@willy90adp]

She Is not attractive at all, She look like Gollum with blonde hair

[@alex_zetsu]

Hang on Conversative MEPs sometimes didn't listen to John Major or David Cameron and were more Euroskeptic than either of them. Let's say Ursula von der Leyen gets Giorgia Meloni to agree on a deal and they're both happy and Leyden's party is happy. Will the MEPs even listen to Meloni or will they be like John or David's MEPs and just ignore her?

[@ThanhTruong-d9k]

Thanks

[@melanieevans5597]

The concrete walls of the right are secure , compared to the artificial walls of the left.

[@arthurread9164]

These right- wing groups in the European Parliament should combine which would give the right much more influence than thay have at present. Any issues they disagree on should be left for their MEP's to have a free vote they come up in the Parliament.

[@crhu319]

They can't with warmongers like van der Lying.

[@Salvatore...23]

@@crhu319 Meloni supports Ukraine, today there is news of a new package of military aid including the Leonardo Samp/T anti-missile system which is superior to the American Patriot

[@nomoreheroes93]

She’s good looking too - centrist political analysis always pretends that’s not a factor

[@krzysztof.k144]

Only ECR! ❤

[@federicomezzina5784]

I am not conservative, I do not like Meloni, nor Le Pen, but it's very sad how so many comments in this section are blatantly sexist and focus only on the fact of them being women, with all the obsolete stereotypes and shallow jokes that it brings along. If those were males, the dynamics would have been the same, because it's based on political logic, nothing more. But if they were males, many of those here who made sexist comments, wouldn't have done so.

[@LuisArreazaLandaeta]

Great analysis! Ms. Meloni is such a piece of work 🤷🏻

[@hudsondunn8385]

Duh. Cuz she’s hot!

[@EggsBenAddict]

IKR?

[@WolfetoneRebel1916]

Oh yea.

[@guyung3106]

and a great PM! I'm glad I voted for her

[@mrsupremegascon]

Blondies are ruling Europe right now lol

[@slopernafti902]

She's an old dog.

[@benenty692]

She the new Margaret Thatcher

[@pasqualesante9236]

W Giorgia Meloni, simply the best (in Italy, very soon in Europe)!!! 🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹

[@dave8323]

Because she's hot

[@arthas7]

And single😊

[@stefanoriva1738]

Are you sure? In italy we say that she looks like Gollum! But we are used to beautiful women...

[@sktt1488]

​@@stefanoriva1738she does look like gollum

[@arthas7]

@@stefanoriva1738 far away mountains always look attractive.. Am sure she is a gollum

[@milantoth6246]

Meloni wil never join the EPP. What is possible, however, is an EPP-ECR de facto coalition, with ID and the right of Renew Europe backing it. The only real obstacle to this was the AFD, as the CDU/CSU and their allies refused working with them under any circumstances. Even if the FPÖ were to not back such a coalition, they would still likely have the numbers for it to work.

[@Salvatore...23]

The AFD is not part of ECR ​​or even ID

[@XY-uc1tw]

As a German citizen, I do not care about other stuff. If somebody finally stop allowing misusage of asylum rights, he will get my vote!

[@emanuele19956]

Same

[@chuck948]

auslander raus!

[@annb1855]

Love seeing more women in politics 🙌

[@Lorre982]

Meloni before here elecion: Europe sucks, we want to return to our national currency, EU is evil, VonderLeyen is the devil, Meloni after her elecion: we need the EU, we need to emproove togheter, prease give us more of this Euro, hey Angy we are bbf now right? Do you want to spend your summer holyday for free in my Sardinian villa?

[@A190xx]

What has happened at TDLR? They no longer call Meloni far right and they suggest in another video that the new president of Mexico is far left.

[@RopekingRopethemall]

Don't give Ursula another chance she sucks

[@toyotaprius79]

And so does lePen and Meloni

[@mtaufiqn5040]

Then who will you choose to be european comissioner?

[@juan-ko5hz]

​@@mtaufiqn5040none. Dissolve EU

[@mtaufiqn5040]

@@juan-ko5hz agree

[@crashniels]

Europa nicht den Leyen überlassen

[@jackdubz4247]

If TLDR existed 90 years ago: "Hitler, what's his secret?" or "The Nazis. Bad or just misunderstood?"

[@nightmisterio]

Lyon is bad news

[@Zestieee]

I feel like there's something about blonde middle-aged women in politics nowadays

[@JustAnotherAccount8]

Glad you're no longer calling her far-right in the titles. All that fear mongering was just dumb and blatantly false

[@KuKKaBuRRo]

You are not italian, and do not know whats happening

[@JustAnotherAccount8]

@@KuKKaBuRRo Wild assumption to be making based on no evidence. Of course you're defending labelling her a far-right politician which also has no basis in reality.

[@Solstice261]

Anti-inmigrant, populist, anti-lgbtq, anti-green transition, right wing financial policies where those with more money benefit. She has mellowed but she is undoubtedly far-right, and that's fine it's a classification

[@markbecker5951]

@@Solstice261 I see you never meet an actual far right person.

[@gaddob3363]

@@KuKKaBuRRo I am Italian and you do not speak for me.

[@Anakin1999]

She’s like that pretty blonde girl in class that everyone’s trying to get the attention of but her dad votes BNP

[@beatonthedonis]

Von der Leyen is the new von Papen.

[@armingleiner5292]

Are you trolling? Meloni is a great center right leader and you compare her to whom? 🤡

[@Boretheory]

As an history buff I’m so HAPPY I GOT THIS ONE.

[@forgetful9845]

Elaborate? Wouldn't Hindenberg be a better example

[@pierluigiadreani2159]

I am disappointed by Meloni, I was hoping she was gonna do much more against immigration. Beside that she is doing ok, anyway the issue is key to me so I don't think I am gonna vote for her this election.

[@SgramITA91]

lo sai perchè non sta facendo niente, perchè non ci sta nulla che può fare ( senza violare i diritti umani ). Vi siete fatti nuovamente abbindolare dalle cazzate sull immigrazione e sul rimandarli a casa.

[@sarath2309]

You're not going to get a complete ban on immigration no matter whichever party u vote. Accept this fact and weigh ur opinions. At present having Meloni or somebody like Orban is the best u can count on. Rest all are con artists and grifters including the ID coalition in EU. They all would flip for some bucks. Nationalism is long dead mate. Move on

[@kc_1018]

You can't get everything in a coalition government.

[@johndurham6172]

I thought you were going to say because she was prettier than most of the leaders of the right 😄 the conservative leaders seem to be women 🤔

[@jeffafa3096]

We're kicking things off on thursday in The Netherlands, and my vote will go to the greens! 💚 I worry for European unity if Right-Wing groups will get a big majority, while we need unity now more than ever...

[@aguspuig6615]

i mean is right wing the oposite of unity? i feel like any talk with avarage europeans makes me think its the oposite

[@herman65]

@@aguspuig6615 Not the EPP (center-right), they generally want more unity as well (although it's a very broad block). But the ECR and ID groups contain a lot of far-right nationalist parties that want to dismantle the EU (and some even support Putin).

[@jacques.cousteau]

the greens are the most restarted party in europe, they closed nuclear plants just to re-open coal-powered factories in Germany. They are trying to go to war with China over EV and meanwhile are destroying the automotive industry and lots of people are losing their jobs because of them. Greenwashing at its finest but as long as they have their teenager minions they have a voting base. Why exactly would you vote for such a awful party?

[@jeffafa3096]

@@aguspuig6615 Most right-wing parties want more national autonomy. Some even call for abandoning the EU in their national elections.

[@jackdunn3235]

​@jeffafa3096 I agree. Unfortunately the Netherlands will go through a dark period. You can look to the UK to see what's coming. Cronyism, corruption and a drop in living standards.

[@kumarvivek1866]

*Christian nationalist party*

[@toniomineo]

Crazy how economically she’s not doing that great of a job, her coalition is kind of the usual right-wing Italian joke, socially Italy is taking step backs on rights, and internationally her anti-migration policies have only created more headaches (e.g.: Tunisia) - and yet, she’s still desired just because of power games. Awesome.

[@soundscape26]

I think part of it is due her image.

[@Micfri300]

Name me a better performing italian government in the last 30 years...

[@r-pu4md]

She has accomplished an image of power and strength and, most importantly, stability, which often lacks in Italian governments. Also, at least she’s doing something about the migration crisis, instead of sweeping it under the rug like so many others.

[@blablavbl7804]

​@@r-pu4mdumh what is she doing to tackle immigration exactly? During 2023 we saw the highest number of arrivals since 2016 and her pact with Tunisia burned down literally 2 weeks after it was signed. Are you talking about the deal with Albania to open immigration centres there perhaps? Because even those are the usual populist BS which will cost a lot and do nothing to actually make the situation better since they will hold a minuscule number of migrants that will have to be reallocated to Italy after 30 days. I'm really shocked to see how the situation has developed under her gov even though she really loved to shout how easy the solution was during the electoral campaign.

[@JesusOrDestruction]

Pro EU cope. Viva Meloni ❤

[@MArch-qc8mp]

Meloni is nice however everybody try to describe her as a monster ! She proved to be really pragmatic and totally inline with european culture . Europe is not Islam , so please everybody wake up now and do the right choice on 9th June !

[@darklightstar7211]

Shame on you!!your problem is islam bt you will.also go to dubai

[@mewmannamwem6087]

CAPITAL OF EUROPE IS ROMA

[@alko_xo]

First of all, she’s binary.

[@JamilaJibril-e8h]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😭

[@jeronimotamayolopera4834]

NEGOTIATE WITH RUSSIA.

[@rhubarbjin]

It's fascism... _for her!_ 💅

[@FanMusicIndian]

She played her cards right !!

[@Zonca2]

Again and again, what's far-right about any of these !?!?! everyone keeps using the word like boogeyman far too casually, looking out for your country and stopping mad immigration is not far-right

[@willhudson5625]

She was part of a fascist party when she was younger...

[@Zonca2]

@@willhudson5625 How much fascist? What did they advocate for?

[@willhudson5625]

@@Zonca2 It was called MSI and they defended Mussolini

[@peterfireflylund]

@@willhudson5625plenty of politicians were outright Communists when they were young. José Barroso, for example. Or Federico Mogherini. Or my own former PM in Denmark, Helle Thorning-Schmidt. I don’t remember any smear campaigns against them, even though that should obviously have kept them out of politics for life.

[@willhudson5625]

@@peterfireflylund being a communist is cool, being a fascist is bad, hope this helps

[@salvatoretrombetta243]

A message to the world:🇪🇺➕NATO ➕Stoltenberg ( nomen omen)➕Ursula von der pippen ( aka under the pink dress absolutely nothing)+Boris j.( a Turk who never went to a barber shop)+gentiloni ( aka un rome “ er bradipo”or “ er moviola)etc…🟰rome Termini rail station 🚽🚾 after 1year of 🚽cleaning strike‼️‼️‼️

[@jsthereforfun1648]

In India too she is loved and is kind of a celebraty and loved by all from the meme of Melodi (Meloni +Modi) 😂😂😂😂

[@shivampandey5978]

Thier memes are wild😂😂

[@NoEndForUs]

Loved only by Incels and creeps. Do everyone a favour, grow up and don't embarrass India anymore.

[@HOI4notsoproplayer]

She has way too many simps Left wing is too weak on that note lol

[@EarthSoulsAstrology]

She failed on what she promised to do for Italy

[@hermaeusmora2945]

Let's see what you can do when Prime Minister with the EU constantly up your ass and making threats against you.

[@francescomasiero7285]

Not true

[@AlFreeman-xy4jy]

Remember when Meloni won the elections in Italy? Two days later this channel was saying that Italy was finished, talking about domestic and foreign disasters, and the Spanish were sure to overtake Italy and take its place. This was not the case, Meloni has done more in 20 months than the centre left has done in 12 years.

[@francescomasiero7285]

@@AlFreeman-xy4jy Yes

[@hermaeusmora2945]

@@AlFreeman-xy4jy Yeah...this channel definitely has a leftist pro-EU bias

[@suspiciousafternoon]

it's because her face card does not decline

[@utahimes-iori]

she mothered too hard

[@teaser6089]

ECR and ID have to work together, that is what Europe needs!

[@jacklemonfizz6898]

Lega Salvini (ID) and FDI Meloni (ECR) are in the same government coalition in Italy, then i think work togheter in UE too.

[@Salvatore...23]

@@jacklemonfizz6898 In Italy in government there are the popular and conservatives and those of Salvini's ID, these parties have been together for thirty years and it works very well

[@jeannovacco5136]

This is about an EU president facing opposition and REACTING BY TRYING TO PIVOT -- not about Italy's Prime Minister.If EU president Ursula van der Lyn has has affiliated with leftist parties and built her base on that affiliation, THEN conservatives have no business teaming up with her. Meloni is the only one of these three women to be a Prime Minister of an important EU country. It's not a good look to cheapen that by joining a coalition headed by van der Lyon. Here's why, and it's not just about who's the big cheese. Many of the conservative votes in this EU parliamentary election, especially those of the youngest demographic as well as the oldest, ARE ACTUALLY VOTES AGAINST Van Der Lyn and repressive globalist policies she did nothing to discourage. Conservatives may not win enough votes to take over leadership of the EU with this one election. However, the pendulum is swinging the other way and gaining momentum. Van der Lyn should put a moist finger in the wind and guage its direction, then step off the podium before she gets knocked off of it. It would be refreshing to see alliances in the EU Parliament consolidated on an issue by issue basis, rather than reflecting deals made at a crucial moment by leaders of disparate oarties who then instruct members to vote in lockstep. The demands by the left for solidarity of elected representatives is what's causing a lot of the hardening of positions in the US -- and thereby threatening the democratic basis for a representative Republic -- although Joe Biden will claim otherwise in his rigid Demicrat party talking points, pushing just one of the autocratic electioneering tactics that is backfiring for leftists in the 2024 contest. Meloni succeeded after the weaponization of the Italian government undermined Matteo Salvini for his stance and actions on overwhelming international migration using Italy as the gateway to the EU, but he now serves as one of Melon's highly placed government ministers. That reality suggests that she should steer clear of any parliamentary coalition headed by Marine LePen -- because we know the press/medua is going to smear Meloni with the baggage of LaPen's father, just the way they tried to smear her with the old history of the name of the party she now leads. I'm not familiar enough with the operations of parliamentary systems or the politics of pluralities in countries subject to parliamentary legislation (ir of their larger supranatural organizations) sufficiently to suggest what Meloni "should" do with these overtures. But it shouldn't hurt for her to keep her own counsel rather than be prodded by this kind of news analysis. After the votes are tallied up, what shakes out in the EU, should dictate leadership decisions. Salvini teaming up Italy's conservative and formerly secessionist Northern League with its southern left wing Five Star Party didn't have staying power. Yet rebranding those conservatives as La Lega seems to be a good evolution. As soon as the words "far right" are written or spoken, people increasingly recognize a left wing propaganda slant to the message. Stated again, EU conservative parties attracting voters in numbers that surprised many observers is a rejection of the policies of the current EU president Van der Lyn (sp?) as well opposition to the ideological takeover of the EU by WEF extremists and climate change hysterics whose first policy impulse is to limit agricultural production of food by destroying daiiry herds and animal husbandry and putting sudden radical limits on fertilizer, even in the face of agricultural consumption in the EU being threatened by a ground war in Ukraine and, in Italy, evaporation during the pandemic of the water supply in its longest river, the Po. Van der Lyn needed to lay off turn on the civil liberties of European people, but she's been proving herself to be a power hungry career politician -- allowing Europeans to be put at risk of physical hunger. She didn't even stand up to to calks by the US Democrat president, Biden, to destroy the Nord Stream pipeline linking Russia and Germany, which represented an important advance in economic integration of Russia and an international cooperative basis for hope for maintaining peace on the Eurasian continent. He was running the idea up the flag to see who would saluted and no one in the EU leadership stood up to object. It's as if no one learned anything from the Nuremberg trials. There's no point in even getting into who would succeed Van der Lyn; Mario Draghi would not be throwing a bone to the Italians, as the world has already already seen enough off of his leadership, and his election just could represent spite work against Meloni. The reality is the the United Nations has lost the plot -- and catastrophically failed to prevent war in Europe, but instead turned to spreading existential fear to empower long-term energy agendas based on unprovable climate theories that give lip service to equitable global governance policies -- but in practice threaten to deprive developing and so-called third world countries of economic growth, efficient energy, and adequate nutritional sustenance, even while publicizing concerns about exactly the type of population collapse it seems to be engineering. The EU has similarly lost its way morphing from the Common Market with flexible rules for entry into a roach motel where a member countries can never leave without a full spectrum of stalling, slow walking and foot dragging by EU politicians who refuse to bargain in good faith, as we watched year after year with Britain. Meanwhile it has never come to terms with the unworkable infrastructure of an EU currency and Central Bank monetary policy excperiment piping the tune over 27 countries with vastly different fiscal policies and disparate records of tax collection, which means that some countries benefit from inflation while others not so much, , or not at all, inevitably leaning toward forcing some countries to bail out others, while crippling the financial growth of these neighboring nations through austerity measures. NATO also has transformed self and its new members into something it was not designed to be, as academics continue to pretend the national boundaries which were arbitrarily drawn during the chaos at the end of World War II are inviolate, even though there are some 60 instances of border changes codified since that global bloodletting ended. Europe would do well to start putting the interests of its people first, and stop putting its faith in multinational politics. As far as emulating the United States and sewing together a United States of Europe, it should recognize that the US fought multiple wars with or backed by European powers on its own soil and engaged in a deadly and crippling War Between the States, less than a century from its founding -- and is niw flirting with ideas of civil war, again under the influence of European ideologues and other elitist academics who are enamored with experimental political, economic, and social theories. This is a call for pragmatism, especially when a country's people are showing their displeasure with convoys of heavy equipment in the streets or simply marching and rioting in the streets -- rather than elected politicians trying to ignore them and indoctrinate them and even conscript them, which seems to reflect the policies of France's Macron. The bottom line is that excessively large political and economic entities and central planning ARE AT ODDS WITH THE WELL BEING OF MOST PEOPLE ON THE PLANET, when we move much beyond the building of essential infrastructure and the maintenance of facilities and services which support the public good, such as supplying water removing sewage and garbage building and maintaining roadways, maintaining a sound currency, setting and enforcing a code of laws for personal and commercial conduct, maintaining defense capabilities sufficient to deterring aggression -- and engaging in international diplomacy that fosters lucrative trade and communication rather than competing sets of hair trigger alliances. If nobody from nowhere like me can recognize these fundamental realities, why do we keep allowing human race to be led into catastrophes by following leaders informed largely by political expediency and simplistic utopian dreams of controlling large populations with indoctrination, authoritarian corercion, and grab bag of short-term incentives and disincentives, supported by experimental economic and social rule making which benefits nothing but a parasitic bureaucracy.

[@LoneWolf-wp9dn]

TLDR youre gonna get more immigration any way

[@MMerlyn91]

Because she has sold out and reneged on every single thing she promised to fight for, especiallt when it comes to migration.

[@Minimmalmythicist]

well, the thing is fighting migration is a much more complex issue than right wing politicians have told you. Indeed, one reason why Japan is in a bit of a mess is precisely because they haven´t got a lot of migration and they´re trying to deal with a very elderly population.

[@MMerlyn91]

@@Minimmalmythicist No, it's not, it's very simple, you've just been brainwashed to think it's a cOmPlEx issue by people who don't want illegal migration to stop. Please never bother me again, I don't like wasting my time with people like you. Thanks in advance.

[@aguspuig6615]

@@Minimmalmythicist but there has to be a way to get immigrants that dont openly hate your country

[@TylerSolvestri]

@@aguspuig6615Exactly, there’s millions of Italian descendants in the Americas, millions of skilled people around the world who would like to immigrate, bringing them in while also investing is social programs and incentivizing the economy to growth in different sectors is an obviously much more feasible option than stacking your country with military age Africans from the Sahel. European politicians are definitely into something devious when they so desperately try to do the opposite

[@JUAN_OLIVIER]

There is nothing right leaning about the EPP, they are center at best.

[@Purjo92]

They are center-right to right. Just because ECR and ID are right to far right on their policies doesn't mean more EPP as a more moderate right-wing group is somehow centrist. Renew Europe is the centrist group (even when they are obviously pro-business neoliberals), S&D is center-left, etc.

[@herman65]

They are definitely center-right (though the parties within vary a lot from center to right-wing). Always have been. The growth of the far-right doesn't change that.

[@JUAN_OLIVIER]

@Purjo92 @herman65 - And that is where you have a problem, calling actual center-right to right-wing groups far-right. Those so called "center-right" parties in the EPP are pro-lgbt, pro-immigration; pro-abortion. It is ridiculous how people call these parties that hold obvious leftist views "center-right".

[@arnabbiswas3973]

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[@Spirit451]

What's so special with Meloni? What exactly have she done for Italy?

[@khandovarbalest1369]

Stayed in charge for longer than one year.

[@blablavbl7804]

She isn't doing anything really, it's just that the other populist right party, Lega, is led by an Orangutan that looks like an utter idiot when compared to Meloni, so she has managed to steal his votes basically.

[@JesusOrDestruction]

She maintain order

[@tiziotizios0956]

Stability, in the last 30 years there have been many governments that have had a short life of about 1 and a half years. Unemployment is at its lowest since 2007 and employment is at an all-time high, real wages have grown more than inflation (wages in Italy have been stagnant since 1990), exports have increased, debt/GDP has decreased, GDP has increased more of France, Germany and the United Kingdom in recent years and in the G7, Italy, after the USA, has been the strongest and most dynamic economy compared to pre-Covid. Many promises made by Meloni have not been respected and there are still many problems to solve, it's true but she is still doing a good job

[@SeanArrenMoscoso]

A lot better than the previous one I can tell you that lol

[@joemanco-no4jy]

Let's rephrase without the "wok" TLDR News EU: Why EU Populists are Fighting over Meloni

[@thalesvondasos]

Because these people hold together like a bundle of sticks. If only there was a word for such a thing...

[@flaviospadavecchia5126]

Hahaha good one

[@tkc5980]

This Man out here seriously still accusing Meloni of being a Fascist Like it's 2022.

[@miroslan007]

​@@tkc5980 dude wtf

[@edc1569]

Always been like that mate, democracy is hard.

[@wigosas]

​@@tkc5980 Well, she is adjacent to them, she can't call herself antifascist, which is the ideology behind the Italian constitution

[@pabloastudillo6903]

Meloni is a true leader, unashamedly a patriot that stands for Italy.

[@les-fauxmonnayeurs9887]

I don't know who to vote for. I am a liberal and wants a stronger Europe. Better jobs, better defense and all I care is that low income under 70k-80k will be supported by thise owning more than 10milions

[@martijn8554]

Better jobs, better defence, these things are mostly national level stuff. People vastly overestimate the influence the EU has on their daily lives compared to national politics. Isn't there some vote helper you can use? They ask questions and then you look through the top three suggestions which you like best.

[@han090]

​@@martijn8554 With the EU proposing greater military cooperation and commin defence within the EU, it's Definitely not just a national issue.

[@nenasiek]

​@@han090 which some of us are against, dont act like its a done deal

[@benoregan9016]

I would recommend renew europe in that case, Its main points are economy and defense. Though I would recommend reading up on the party manifesto yourself aswell.

[@ad_astra468]

I guess Renew fits your ideals best.

[@donato_donato]

She's pledged to Draghi's mission, it was the condition the US posed to let thrm be elected. Wake up.

[@anj000]

I have no idea how anyone can call Ursula von der Leyen center-right. Her stance is not right wing by any means. And you yourself told that she made a coalition with left wing parties.

[@marcpaul6727]

Making coalitions doesn't really do anything with your inner compass. You have to make a coalition, so you do.

[@happyChappy96621]

Welcome to TLDR. Where anyone who utters a word about controlled migration is suddenly either center right or far right

[@olliestudio45]

because she is a member of the conservative (centre-right) Christian Democratic Union (CDU) as well as the European People's Party (EPP)

[@jirislavicek9954]

​@@olliestudio45CDU = Christian Democratic Union by name, Islamic Neo-Marxist Union by policy 🙈

[@ChrisDyn1]

@@olliestudio45 They're not actually centre-right though, are they. Th CDU allowed mass immigration, persecutes political opponents and enforces hate speech laws. None of that speaks to centre anything, let alone right wing. Do you see the Tories as right wing as well, when they arrested 3,000 for hate speech last year and allowed 1.2m people in last year? Is North Korea a republic because they claim to be?

[@dominantmarketing2102]

Im in love with her, so beautiful, so right wing. What else could i ask for in a woman!?

[@edgardebruin5539]

i would never vote for them

[@jimwagner7817]

I can not come around thinking you guys wouldnt've choosen such a wording and title if it was over a man

[@czwitek1995]

VdL called Meloni facist before 😂 god i can't stand VdL.

[@user-df1ns1ob8y]

Meloni has repeatedly supported and praised Mussolini.

[@thalesvondasos]

Oh yeah, Giorgia "Mussolini did nothing wrong" Meloni is _clearly_ not a fascist.

[@MainulWasTaken]

Being fascist is nothing wrong​@@user-df1ns1ob8y

[@czwitek1995]

@@thalesvondasos she's clearly not according to VdL today 🤡 or maybe she's just spineless 🤔

[@thalesvondasos]

Checks out, not having a spine is actually a prerequisite for joining the CDU

[@spencerberg7477]

I just don’t understand why she wouldn’t do the center right

[@thedread2597]

She has a good relationship with Von Der Leyen, but she is still the european establishment she always criticizes. Allying with her means another 4 years with little to no real change in the union

[@nightmisterio]

Not sure if she is what she seems, is she really right or a fake right?

[@DavidPoncha]

she's just right-wing, not center-right and not far-right, just "normal"-right

[@diogorodrigues747]

@@DavidPoncha Normal=conservative. There is also the liberal right.

[@DavidPoncha]

@@diogorodrigues747 true, there are multiple dimensions, it's no just right and left, but in the economic dimension I'm correct she's just regular right-wing, multiple things can correct at the same time

[@klausschwab26]

@@DavidPoncha can you define that?

[@Notsogoodguitarguy]

She seems to be a politician who can change her stance depending on the situation. Like with migration, like with EU, like with the war in Ukraine. When reality hits, if politicians don't change, it's a bad sign. She has at least that going for her.

[@soniyasinha3496]

This looks more like democracy than the two party system in the USA!

[@alexanderhemming6148]

oof, so she either has to stop pretending to be far right or she has to become far right?

[@aguspuig6615]

wait that implies that shes far right and pretending not to be AND that she is hasnt become far right yet. Wich one is it? (maybe shes just right wing, and we can stop calling annyone that mentions identity and immigration a fascist)

[@aesma2522]

The RN of Le Pen isn't fond of Meloni who has become too pro-EU for their taste. Also if an alliance occurred the RN would have more MEPs in the group than Meloni's party, so the RN would be the leader, Meloni isn't likely to want that instead of leading her own group. Also the ECR are more involved in Brussels' game, they actually work, whereas ID are against the EU even if they dare not talk about leaving it, so they barely attend parliament and do as little as possible.

[@naquimos3492]

Grande giorgia