Why the Far Right are on the Rise in Portugal

[@lightfm90]

Education, Health, Security completely destroyed. Average young Portuguese can't afford a room let alone a house to live in. Homelessness rising. These all contribute to these parties rising.

[@markdowding5737]

PS: "But the economy is growing! Which means we are doing a great job and should pat ourselves on the back"

[@ASocialistTransGirl]

The party doesn’t have any policy solutions for these issues.

[@legitplayin6977]

@@ASocialistTransGirlyeah but the party doesn’t like immigrants so that will work, right ? Right ?

[@krisdaschwab912]

And then far right comes in and destroys the public sector while doing nothing to solve any of those problems.

[@DiogoSilva-og7tc]

@@legitplayin6977 accepting hundreds of thousands of unskilled immigrants while our high skilled youth keeps migrating to other countries seems like a great model of migration for a country with all these issues.

[@sarasimoes9845]

30% of people under 40 born in Portugal left the country for a better life. That is a crazy number that shows how bad things are.

[@tcbbctagain572]

E estão a ser substituídos por africanos, árabes e indostânicos

[@murica7977]

And if things keep going the way they are, that number will only increase... I my self for as long as i remeber have been considering it as possibly the best finantial decision. The economy only keeps getting worse and the current party has the audacity to proclaim that "the economy is growing". The last few years the situation has only worsened.

[@sarasimoes9845]

@@murica7977 I am very glad I left over 8years ago. I can't imagine how people live in Portugal this days.

[@oldieANDgoldie]

where did you get this number?

[@imjennasidel6703]

its a real number search it @@oldieANDgoldie

[@tabletgenesis3439]

As a portuguese speaker, "Chega" is a word that literally means "Enough".

[@alessandro_junior_007]

As a native portuguese speaker, I can confirm this lol

[@Gary_The_Man76]

True portuguese = Brazilian

[@robertallison1580]

*Literally* it means 'Arrive!', as the 2nd person imperative of the verb chegar 'to arrive'. However in English we would say 'Enough!" (as in, 'I/we have had enough of this')

[@diogoperdigaodp]

@@robertallison1580it can mean both enough or arrive btw

[@Typhzorz]

Thanks ​@@robertallison1580 for teaching us about our own language 🙏

[@testerpt5]

same reason as other countries. Mainstream parties doing business as usual, and now being charged with corruption, extremely bad public funding management, selective "memory losses", etc.

[@jarodiking2559]

"geen actief herinnering aan" - mark rutte

[@Alektrios]

You describe one to one the problems we have in Germany exept the corruption

[@testerpt5]

@@Alektriosyou have corruption and a lot, it's just not perceived. Just search about corruption Germany Portugal submarines case...

[@kremepye3613]

You must be "far right" to say something like that!

[@pedrobarao4558]

​@@jarodiking2559but does he have a passive one?

[@markfoster2033]

'Many portugese are fed up of the 2 party duopoly'.As a UK voter I can relate to that!

[@ljosephdumas3113]

Same in USA.

[@tiagoreis5253]

the problem in portugal this party are BOTH LEFT WING both!!, they are the oposite sides of same coin, portugal dont have a right party since 1974, and thats is the problem

[@RDLFsama]

@@tiagoreis5253 This post is in fact wrong and he's most likely a comment from a fascist chega supporter. Before 1974 there was no Right or Left parties, there was a dictatorship.

[@cobracommander8133]

@@tiagoreis5253 The USA doesn't have a left-wing party, so I know the feeling. CHEGA would be a centrist party in the USA, our Republican's are further Right than CHEGA.

[@LuigiMan6]

​@@tiagoreis5253 PSD is clearly right wing (public-private partnerships, privatization of essential services, etc.) and it was with CDS (more right wing than PSD) in government twice. Please learn what right wing and left wing policies are, before spouting nonsense.

[@newAfonsoFGarcia]

Corrections: - There’s nothing unprecedented about Costa’s majority. It was the second from the socialists alone. - There have been 4 majorities during Portugal’s democratic period: 2 from the social democrats and 2 from the socialists. You can also count 2 more of post-electoral coalitions between the social democrats and the Christian democrats. - Counting those, Costa’s majority was not the first majority government to not go to the full term but the second, as the first PSD/CDS government didn’t survive when Barroso went to the EC presidency.

[@LouisMota]

There have been 6 absolute majorities in Portuguese elections. PSD 1979, 1980, 1987, 1991. PS 2005 and 2022

[@newAfonsoFGarcia]

@@LouisMota you’re right, forgot the 2 AD ones. And that makes this government the 4th majority government to not reach the end of the term.

[@paulomartins1008]

Correction: you fail to understand the context of the word "unprecedented". PS managed to obtain a majority, despite being called to elections after a scandal of its own making. That is what is unprecedented about that win. You need to brush up on your English.

[@Eltener123]

@@paulomartins1008 that's based on the assumption that there's no precedent for a party gaining a majority despite a scandal. Go back to school.

[@martim5800]

@@LouisMota There's PS 1975 too.

[@ciarantuomey5408]

The Netherlands, Sweden, Ireland and now Portugal have turned right why Housing and immigration.

[@sunu84]

Exactly

[@professionaltaxevader4638]

And emigration

[@Vitorruy1]

Netherlands was always right-wing

[@joelsantos456]

And CRIME...

[@joelsantos456]

And infinite CORRUPTION

[@diovmes]

As a Portuguese that lives in the Uk don’t worry we have very similar issues. Health system collapse, immigration, lack of housing, etc etc it’s all western problems. And we can’t see our governments doing anything about it, hence people looking at different options. That’s where populists come in.

[@hopeintruth5119]

Lack of housing is a first world problem. It's a very large trend for some reason. It is not just a Western problem. It is seen as it though, because most Western countries are first world

[@fireironthesecond2909]

To be fair the UK doesn’t really have any populists

[@inbb510]

The elephant in the room is the welfare system and people not having children largely down to respecting individual choices. Children in a developed welfare economy will always be an economic burden and sacrifice a parent's free time but then without them, things like healthcare, pensions, public transport and schools won't function. Or if it is under pressure now, it will almost certainly collapse with decreasing fertility rates and aging population. You can resort to mass immigration as a short-term band-aid solution but Europeans seem to have this notion that the world thinks/acts like them when any time outside continent suggests otherwise. From a cultural standpoint, if you want to perpetuate your left wing ideology for the long term then you also need to have children for this reason. Any left wing government that doesn't want to bring birth rate to replacement level and don't want to emphasise having children is a "duty" like paying taxes rather than a "choice" as we currently do, then those left wing governments deserve to fail in the long run. The only left wing government that is remotely close to understanding this is Denmark. As Europeans realise that their welfare State is a glorified Ponzi scheme that is collapsing in on itself, expect more far right emergence to proposer.

[@bookinsights1092]

I believe that the role of government should always be to help those on the lower end of society to make it in terms of housing, decent jobs, helping out with finding a partner. Then we would not have many discontent people.

[@fred7371]

@@inbb510 yes, because USA is a role model in social care, mobility, equality and health care. Top of the top. Also their not facing same pressures from low fertility. Are you a comedian, because i laughed from your wall of text. What next, your going to say migrants are criminals and there is a woke agenda on schools + great replacement theory?

[@DiogoLobo]

As Portuguese just want to congratulate you for such accurate video. 👏👏👏

[@TugaAvenger]

One of the best foreign pronunciations of "João" I've seen.

[@alguem24]

Yes, he said everything right except he didn't nasalize /aw/ to /ɐ̃w̃/

[@th3mllkm4n66]

It’s crazy how some people get it so wrong tho like “jow”. Like what’s so hard about saying “joo-woah-n” lol

[@manuelcapela7620]

And heard!

[@capmss]

@@th3mllkm4n66 I've heard some Nordic people treat the J as an I and pronouncing it "yawn" 😅

[@berlineczka]

And one of the worst of Visegrad :D

[@manuelcapela7620]

"Javier Milei style" > "To solve this fertility problem, Chega proposes a new ministry" 😂

[@stephmod7434]

That's what I though!

[@thesusposter48]

yeah the comparison with javier milei is not accurate in one of the most recent elections he was literally called socialist by the liberal party leader

[@manana1444]

"We want to reduce the to state to it's minimal essential functions" > "More Regulations" It's like a libertarian party that got drunk

[@brmicapa]

The tldr team is not wrong. That is just how much incoherent Chega is regarding the ideas it defends

[@RodrigoFerreira-bs6hd]

Depends on the day. On the tv debate against the Liberal party Chega made themselves look like complete socialists, suggesting to drastically raise the lowest pensions (most from people that never paid the right amount of taxes) with a massive cost he refused to admit

[@vladsky44]

I love Portugal. It's a country with so much potential which unfortunately is shackled by its government...

[@insertname5421]

Like any country having a government

[@TheSaltyGendo]

Chega is just more goverment. They just complain about the others to get votes, not because they care.

[@TheSaltyGendo]

And you think these guys will be any different if they get ellected? There are no honest or morally good politicians.

[@pnduarte4696]

no its not stop the crap.

[@ead-pv5lb]

​@@pnduarte4696yes, it is.

[@josepedrosantiagosilva9625]

In Europe, there's a growing sense of neglect towards the younger generation. They face lower salaries, longer work hours, and increased responsibilities while witnessing a surge in billionaires, particularly in countries like Germany. The housing market adds to their woes, as property prices soar, making it difficult to afford homes, let alone start families. To compensate, cheap labor from abroad is often favored, leading to frustration among the youth, who feel betrayed. People aren't inherently racist, but this frustration arises when governments prioritize external labor over addressing domestic issues. It's high time politicians acknowledge and tackle these pressing concerns rather than resorting to distractions. The younger generation deserves meaningful change.

[@diogor420]

As a Portuguese, I can confirm we are fucked.

[@endo4137]

It's joever

[@HOI4notsoproplayer]

As a brazillian Yooo we are on the same boat lets go!!!!

[@alexandre4193]

@@HOI4notsoproplayer no mesmo barco eu ainda não diria, talvez eles consigam reverter a situação política em que se encontram.

[@HOI4notsoproplayer]

@@alexandre4193 verdade o problema deles é bem menor Fazer o que né? Agora tudo que podemos fazer e sentar observar a chuva e beber nossa aguinha porque nem refrigerante da pra tankar o preço kkkkkkk

[@alexandre4193]

@@HOI4notsoproplayer certamente no Brasil não kkkkkk 😅

[@bruno7029]

What your not talking about is that all the emigration that is arriving and getting the Portuguese citizenship in less than 5 years with mafia of emigration financing it, and making money with it, will be in other countries of Europe once they have their Portuguese nationality.

[@editorrbr2107]

That is a really good point.

[@Tameemterminator]

Trust me , Portugal knows it since the beginning that none will stay once they acquire Portuguese citizenship yet their milking the all the money from the expats and immigrants

[@chriskasprzyk6235]

I believe you meant immigration, which is people arriving in Portugal. Emigration is people leaving the country, which young Portuguese have been doing in droves for several decades since opportunities are so much better in the US, UK, Canada, and some other EU countries.

[@bruno7029]

Exactly, we triplicated the immigration in 5 years, and we have probably the highest rate of emmigration in young people in Europe in this moment. There are documentarys about the mafia of immigration in Portugal in KZbin.

[@rapnoc4158]

os eleitores do chega são tão estúpidos que nem sabem a diferença entre imigração e emigração

[@mattheusveloso2]

"We want lower taxes and stop illegal immigration" Press: Wow look at how far right they are. 🤢🤢

[@titanicbigship]

Fr

[@almighty5839]

Fr what a joke the media are

[@editorrbr2107]

I have no idea how any of this is far right.

[@almighty5839]

@@editorrbr2107 it’s because they are biased and hate anything right wing

[@FelixTuga_]

facts, media is harsh with right-wing movements

[@winj3r]

The blame for the rise of a party like Chega is on the 2 main parties, PSD and PS. Between the them, we have 4 decades of staggering corruption and incompetence. A lot of people are fed up, desperate and are willing to vote for any alternative. Even if it's something as bad as Chega.

[@goncaloaraujo6644]

that's exactly what is happening

[@scarletcrusade77]

Why exactly is Chega bad?

[@tiagoreis5253]

its bad for the the same 2 parties not for us the people, for the first time in 50 years they grip on power is in check, social medias all doing the work of the state trys to pass a bad image of chega to trying not loose votes for them, calling comparing andre ventura to hitler and Mussolini, a real shit show for the past 6 months

[@purplehaze8557]

Don't forget open borders. Lisbon is starting to look like Islamabad.

[@eaglemob]

yep alleluia very true !!!

[@antoniooliveiras6974]

What far right?! In Portugal the Constitutional Court doenst allow Far right Party’s……

[@XIII_Vanitas]

I bet you also think that North Korea is a democracy because its full name is Democratic People's Republic of North Korea.

[@antoniooliveiras6974]

@@XIII_Vanitas no my friend! Just call the things by the name… don’t confuse right conservative with far right!!!

[@p_snimon_enis9850]

@@XIII_Vanitas I'm not a Chega supporter. Far from it. Antonio is right - our heavily socialism-influenced constitution does not give room for parties advocating fascist ideologies. I don't see anything "far" about Chega. It's just populist and annoying. That doesn't make you a Nazi, chill.

[@lukasdutli3473]

Chega is quite mild compared to other far right parties in Europe.

[@XIII_Vanitas]

@@p_snimon_enis9850 Why do you believe that fascism and nazism are the only far-right ideologies?

[@BeltsuRR]

Look, Costa and PS won the majority because they started this “Chega is the devil” speach. Rui Rio and his party PSD actually grew in votes, but the far left was so scared of Chega, that they voted PS and abandoned PCP and BE, far left parties who lost votes. Without it, Rio would be the PM, and who knows? Maybe he could form a government without Chega. Now, Costa may be a good salesman, but he is terrible at choosing the right people for the job. Terrible. Even with majority, there were too many scandals and outright incompetence, something that we already had with a minority PS government. Too many “boys” in the party, too many individual interests. The government fell, thanks to its own fault. People are unhappy with it, and, of course, there comes the parasite, far right party, Chega, on the rise. As Portuguese, I don’t believe that many people actually believe in Chega’s policies. They are being deceived. But, as you know, unhappiness can make up for some really stupid decisions. I’m really hoping for a new start for our country. Rui Rio seemed honest and dedicated. A real statesman. Too bad he left the party and politics. Now PSD has an uncharismatic leader (Montenegro). I believe that we need other party ruling (PS has rulled for something like 20 of the last 25 years, and our county is one of the poorest in Europe and doesn’t grow as it should and could), but I do not want a far right or far left party on the government. Gosh…

[@Kargnaras]

Very good explanation. Can confirm

[@pinguimbrav8728]

Estamos fodidos de qualquer maneira, é uma tristeza.

[@davethebarbarian4419]

First two sentences are true. The rest is wishful thinking. You wanted PSD to win, but that would have been impossible anyway. True, the "far-left" voters (we aren't actually talking about Communists, Anarchists, etc... here, because those would never vote for a moderate, we are talking about regular people who would normally cast votes for any party to the left of the Socialist Party) were scared shitless of actually having something change for once. We are talking about older people here. Pensioners and older public administration workers, who already are majority PS voters (and are a huge slice of the electorate), swung even harder in favour of PS, due to the boogeyman of a PSD+Chega alliance (which is EXTREMELY unlikely, with the current generation of PSD leaders). If that swing had not happened, the election would have ended up with both centrist parties hovering around the 30-something percent, no majorities besides PSD+Chega+something else possible, and therefore new election even earlier than this one.

[@davethebarbarian4419]

And, by the way, the scenario I described above is my prediction for the next election too. PS will probably win with 30-35% because the fear still lingers in older people. PSD will have 25-30% and Chega around 15%. Prime minister will be the PS candidate, Pedro Nuno Santos, without a majority and no possibility of coalition. Then we will wait and see, to know whether PSD will bring down the government. If they do, they will probably be asked to form a cabinet, but they will refuse to enter coalition with Chega, therefore triggering new elections. It's going to be a rough couple of years, guys.

[@RossBradley-vd5rc]

Bring back Salazar.

[@df3g]

Chega is not Far Right. Far Right parties are not even allowed in portuguese constitution.

[@AFT_05G]

They think anything right of Mao or Marx are far right lol

[@broadcastmadnesss]

Yes, it is.

[@AleaRandomAm]

​@@broadcastmadnesssOf course it is because you've heard it on TV.

[@df3g]

@@broadcastmadnesss No, it isn't. Care to support your claim?

[@broadcastmadnesss]

@@df3g No thanks, its leader is doing it quite all right by himself. Let alone one of his men of confidence, a former terrorist who has blood on his hands. Have a good one.

[@davide8982]

There’s no far-right party’s in Portugal or in the EU country’s. Extreme/far-right is not permitted by our Constitutional law, and all political party’s are certified and approved by the Constitutional Court. It’s quite ridiculous to see people talking about foreign politics country’s not knowing how they’re Political system works. You can fact check this.

[@marmanjoteta2100]

And to reduce Chega’s growth to a mere product of protest voting is also very inaccurate. While protest votes ended up being a part of the equation, most people who voted for Chega are aligned with the politics they are proposing on various topics across the board (immigration, taxes, gender ideology, bureaucracy, criminal penalties, fertility and consequential overload placed on the active population to keep the social security system running, specially with the intake of so many immigrants… the list goes on)

[@millycakeck]

não importa quantas voltas dês à questão, não é a lei que define se é ou deixa de ser, são as ideologias. as ideologias definem que certo partido é extrema direita ou deixa de ser, e se a lei diz que não, é só eles puxarem a carta que tu próprio estás a puxar e dizer "que é contra a lei constitucional". muita coisa é contra a lei e o pessoal vai lá e faz, agora imagina políticos...😅

[@inesbatosta]

It isn’t allowed but it’s almost impossible to prove a party is extremist. So they are ultimately allowed in spite of their extremism politics. You can fact check this.

[@Luzitanium]

there is far right but not in the parlament, the party Ergue-te or PNR is a far right

[@pedritu147]

Sim sim… por mais voltas que dês a verdade é que apoias essa corja. Obvio que convém pintar a coisa de ouro e democracia para enganar papalvos. Os alemães dos anos 40 também votaram no Hitler… se lhes dissessem o que o futuro governo iria fazer, provavelmente responderiam como tu… „there‘s no far right in Germany blablabla“… parabéns para ti.

[@historicalitalianmemer8495]

6:42 Portugalcykablyat moment

[@sciencefliestothemoon2305]

Question to the Portuguese in here, if you have such high taxes, shouldnt you also get a lot of services? Because if not, then it seems it is not a tax problem, but some serious lack of transparency on the government's side. And I don't see that as a point chega is listing, which means they will just be the same BS with a different cloth

[@kamiltrojnar3178]

Services are quite good, but the problem is that rich and digital nomads does not pay taxes. Only middle class and poor. As the only effective taxation is through income.

[@DragonBlueSpirit]

The services we have are so degraded.. honestly nothing works anymore in Portugal The healthcare is really bad rn and public school don't even have teachers so most of the kids are growing up without education

[@goncaloaraujo6644]

too many old people. PS (the socialist party that had majority in the recent elections) has a strong hold on the elderly. The big majority of their voters is 65+. They promise higher pensions and the elderly get crazy over it ahahah. Most of them are uneducated and most of them barely have enough to live so it's understandable but portugal has an inverted population age pyramid. In 5 to 8 years its going to be seriusly bad. Also, money hasnt been well spent. Portugal has a national airline for some reason... and its bleeding money. Then there's corruption, the government has given a lot a money from portuguese funds to friend's companies.

[@Lourenco-wp2lu]

We pay hight taxes with shity services at the moment but it hasn’t always been like that

[@nhecos2998]

Nah, it will be even worse. If you think things like public services don't work well right now, just you wait until after four years of these incompetents messing with the system. It's easier to destroy than to build something.

[@maicon9242]

"Far right" for "lefters" is everithing that is not left.

[@JustinCase-ld4ih]

True

[@slendii366]

Many see them as far right due to the leader’s many radical viewpoints and bigoted actions and comments.

[@wlsntech]

With all of these “Why “Random Country” is going Far-Right” I’m starting to think any sign of conservatism is seen as Far Right at this point.

[@KikoFSF]

Nah, he (André Ventura) actually said yesterday that two of his policies would be the "compression" of people's rights and the enlargement of police's rights. Not exactly democratic at all

[@FaithfulOfBrigantia]

​@@KikoFSF Democracy doesn't mean anarchy.

[@KikoFSF]

@@FaithfulOfBrigantia Where is the anarchy? We're the 6th most secure country in the world do people forget that?

[@FaithfulOfBrigantia]

@@KikoFSF Every single law that exists, compresses individual rights. In order for law enforcement to exist, one needs to give law enforcement aditional privileges not acessible to the civilian population. You claimed that "compressing individual rights" and "enlarging police's rights" is anti-democratic. Therefore the logical implication is that for something to be democratic according to you, it cannot have any compression of individual rights at all (which means anarchy).

[@FaithfulOfBrigantia]

Steelmaning your argument, what you are suggesting is that under PS, Portugal had the exact divinely ordained perfect balance between rights and restrictions (false), and any further change is going to immediately derail into complete tyranny (also false).

[@goncalooliveira7784]

A quick correction, Costa's absolute majority wasn't the second in the country's democratic history but the fourth. Aníbal Cavaco Silva won two majorities in the 1987 and 1991 legislative elections. José Sócrates won one majority in the 2005 legislative elections And, finally Antonio Costa won his absolute majority in the last elections. So, during the Third Republic, Portugal had four absolute majorities, two for the PSD and two for the PS.

[@diogorodrigues747]

AD also had two majorities in 1979 and early 1980s.

[@JoaoArriagaCunha]

There is no far-right in Portugal!

[@TheMyRogil]

Talvez o partido Ergue-te , mas que é irrelevante... Chamar de extrema direita a um partido como Chega, gostemos ou não dele, é ridículo...

[@antonioduarte5172]

​@@TheMyRogil Concordo perfeitamente, agora o PNR( atualmente Ergue-te) já considero extrema direita.

[@Redmailnet]

@@antonioduarte5172É o único - e o Pinto Coelho foi meu professor na escolinha. Fdd.

[@SouthPeter98]

Immigration in Portugal is completely out of the rails, it makes immigration in Germany or the US look like nothing in comparison. The issue is that Chega is the only party to even acknowledge this.

[@Bajolzas]

its still not as bad because we are a poor country, but we will be there if nothing is done.

[@TheDanorte]

Bullshit. Everyone acknowledges it. Right wing policies will only make it worse, like they did in the US and UK. Migration is a human right. You cannot stop people from doing it. If you make it harder, the illegal migration explodes. It's a very complicated matter, that the rightwing demonizes but if elected will only make worse. Never trust Chega to solve migration. Actually, don't trust chega with anything. They have no policies or strategies. They are populists. If you want the best for Portugal, support legal migration and welcome them. Only migration can build a better future for Portugal.

[@FaithfulOfBrigantia]

​@@Bajolzas We might be poor, but the third world is much poorer, and we have literally free entry to 350 Million of them.

[@Bajolzas]

@@FaithfulOfBrigantia I know, it's just you said our immigration is worse than Germany's or US's wich is not true.

[@FaithfulOfBrigantia]

@@Bajolzas Portugal has literally been importing more immigrants as a percentage of their population than both the U.S and Germany have. The only difference is that Germany and the U.S have been doing it for much longer, so the effects are already accumulative, Portugal just started, but it's going in absolute overdrive. Portugal is importing at the same rate as the U.K.

[@goncaloaraujo6644]

TLDR, Portugal has been shit

[@artonio5887]

Typical

[@istvanczap3004]

Portugalcykablyat

[@TheSaltyGendo]

You can find shit if you look hard enough. There are many more countries and populations who have it much worse than us.

[@goncaloaraujo6644]

@@TheSaltyGendo u r focusing on the wrong countries. We should strive to be better. We need to look at the best countries. Otherwise some day we'll end up next to the ones "who have it much worse than us". Being content with mediocrity isn't right.

[@Vitor.Machado]

😂

[@VOLUMEnightclub]

Can we stop saying “far-right” for everyone…isn’t it time we start being honest and say media went “far-left” otherwise these people wouldn’t be winning

[@ZnamTwojaMama101]

Called Chega Libertarian and like Milei then proceeds to explain they added more regulations... Remind me not to take them seriously.

[@goncalosilva97]

in their defense it's hard to keep up with Chega's mood swing. 4 years ago they wanted to end the public health system and now they want to develop it.

[@VOLUMEnightclub]

@@ZnamTwojaMama101 I wasn’t speaking about portugal specifically it’s everyone whose openly expresses their country “1st” is “far-right”…like so many of these people se policies are wildly different (Meloni, Trump, Milei, Wilders, etc)…it’s really lost all meaning at this point.

[@Patrick-y4d1z]

It is annoying. "Far right" seems to basically just mean against mass migration now. The term has lost all meaning.

[@callofbrokendreams]

​@@VOLUMEnightclub wait till you see any foreign coverage of india😂😂😂

[@evasterenberg]

After living in Portugal for a while I can assure that the country is in the edge of collapse. Absurdly high taxes drain people's already ridiculously low wages. Despite naming themselves socialists, the current party in power just governs for the rich. No wonder many rich people from the US, China, Russia, Brazil.. (and the list goes on and on) have settled in Portugal, being supported by loopholes in immigration laws and also benefiting on the so called "Golden Visa", which, in a nutshell, gives automatic residence to foreigners who purchase properties down here. This has lead to an unprecedented real state crisis all over the country, pushing locals away from cities into precarious shared dwellings in small villages which also lack housing and basic services such as schools, healthcare facilities and public transportation, not to mention those who end up leaving the country in search of better living conditions. After a quick search on the internet, you can easily find rooms in the main cities such as Lisbon and Porto (yes, rooms not houses or flats) being rented out for not less than 500 EUR, when most of people here don't make much more that 820 EUR (around 700 EUR after taxes), which is the local minimum wage. Also, it doesn't take much to notice that this cocktail of issues has been the cause of the emergence of shanty towns, astonishing rates of homelessness, crimes, suiсiдe and so on... If you've got this far, I hope that I could help you understand the reasons behind why the Portuguese are turning to the Right. The Left has just led their country to chaos, hunger and poverty. Yes, the Portuguese are struggling. All my support to the hardworking and brilliant people of this remarkable beautiful nation called Portugal! : )

[@MrHardGod]

Thank you for you explanation, Go Chega! Força André Ventura!

[@JustinCase-ld4ih]

You spoke the truth, and explained the result of 23 years in power by the socialist party, and amidst, some coalitions with the extreme far left

[@martins336]

Chega is not far-right. It is a right wing party that has in its majority previous members from PSD (Social Democrats). With PSD not doing opposition and getting closer to PS some members left to make Chega. They do not have anti-Imigration position, they just dont agree with the open borders policy from the previous government. They have been exposing much of the corruption and collusion of all parties to benefit from portuguese public funds.

[@vladsky44]

Not just Portugal but the whole of Europe needs stricter vetting and immigration processes. Although since Portugal is a first-receiving State, I'm sure its people would want to be especially careful.

[@martins336]

@@vladsky44 You have no idea how scandalous our migration policies and nationality are. I don't understand how we have not been kicked out of Schengen and EU.

[@teresa..M]

Right/Exacto

[@tiagozadra4307]

Chega is most definitely not like Javier Milei's party. Chega is still a strongly statist party. The closest thing we have to Javier Milei in Portugal is the Iniciativa Liberal (Liberal Initiative) party, though they are still quite a bit more moderate compared to Milei.

[@TheSaltyGendo]

We don't need more nationalists in our goverment. Nationalism is just a manipulation tactic that appeals to people's tribalism, not what would actually make the world better.

[@marcocorreia4794]

I just wrote the same thing. It is, if anything, more in the opposite direction of Milei than in any way, shape or form connected to it. It is absolutely not libertarian in any sense whatsoever.

[@peddersoldchap]

Iniciativa Liberal is nothing like Milei. Socially they are BE nr 2.

[@russelltimmerman3771]

Define "far right" please....

[@antoniodaguiar392]

All who are not in far left.

[@russelltimmerman3771]

And far left are all who are not "far right"...

[@BonVoyage861]

Basically anyone who doesn't want to continue down the Liberalism route

[@russelltimmerman3771]

Liberalism implies free choices and free speech which the left despises.

[@istvanczap3004]

​@@BonVoyage861yeah, because actual commies are notoriously liberal.

[@carlasmithlopeszhalyn1595]

Far right? where? I don't see it ...

[@thijmstickman8349]

"Reduce the state to its minimum essential functions" "Ban Mosques" "Fight gender Ideology". That seems textbook far right IMO

[@broadcastmadnesss]

You will see it very soon.

[@alexwmercer]

People are fed up of their communities and their nation being flooded by those who don’t share their values

[@abelg9053]

What the fuck is blooded?

[@alexwmercer]

@@abelg9053 ?

[@Menezarian]

"mas Portugal não tem valores, é um *estado-laico!"* simplesmente não.

[@alexwmercer]

@@Menezarian it isn’t an Islamic country that’s for sure, and the Portuguese people have their traditions and values

[@TheSaltyGendo]

And you think that groups of far right motherfuckers won't be corrupt? You think these people are good people? Don't be naive.

[@JCardoso-j9l]

Why would you call it ‘far-right’ what about the left then , would you called it far-left too? We as Portuguese people just want our country back and not having to leave the country and having corruption run almost freely.

[@billyungen]

Chega seem more like a classical liberal party than a “far-right” party. I don’t know if the “far-right” label is used as clickbait or simply because of ignorance. The term libertarian would come closer to what they stand for. “Far right” is far wrong.

[@sapereaudediogenes7282]

Easy its out of the German left wing play book. Just in Germany they will also call the Opposition Party the N... word Party. Portugal has been Ruled for the last 45 years by the PS and PSD Partys (both left wing). Also many of there members are part of the "Young Global Leaders" Society. Just like the Founders of TLDR, are too!

[@imBrunoPereira]

CHEGA isn't far-right, it's center-right conservative.

[@mariocamoes401]

PS is a predominantly Social Liberal party with a small Social Democratic wing, and PSD is a Liberal Conservative party, both became very influenced by Neoliberalism over the last 40years. Both use misleading names which don't match their ideologies nor government policies. While nominally keeping a "welfare state" both have contributed to de-fund public services (vs private interests) and privatisation of most natural monopolies/strategic sectors. They're basically just like Labour vs Tories (UK), or SPD vs CDU (Germany) or PSOE vs PP (Spain). The rise of the far right is understandable as the main establishment parties duopolies are corrupt, influenced by Neoliberalism, but hide under a "social" brand which they don't deserve. The Left - actual socialists (marxists, libertarian socialists, ecosocialists, etc) ends up proposing mostly Social Democratic bills which is seen as further desire to increase Government intervention and ends up being accused of idealism or of not understanding economics (neoclassic economics that is) because "we need to be fiscally competitive to grow the economy" (so basically Reaganomics/trickle down economics)....it seems for the dissatisfied that Chega is the only alternative. And this is exacerbated by Capitalist Realism, the feeling that there's no alternative to capitalism except totalitarian soviet communism or Cuban/Venezuelan poverty/misery. Red Scare everywhere. We're living "interesting" times. Fasten your seatbelts folks, we're heading towards an intensification of class struggle, propaganda wars, and systemic contradictions. History doesn't repeat itself but it surely rhymes 😅

[@melissacorbett4180]

Yep, so true about the failure of TINA (There Is No Alternative) Neoliberal policies causing the current collapse of mainstream political parties in lots of countries. Also, fair point about the "radical Left" parties mostly offering fairly moderate social democratic policies too. What I don't get about all this talk about "far-right" parties is that their economic policies are just repackaged neoliberal ones, for example Vox in Spain. So aside from the open bigotry, they're not actually offering anything new??? I'd love to no if I missed something 😅

[@tomaslima2371]

O PS se não é socialista não sei o que é meu amigo.

[@RamoaProdutcions]

What a great comment. Well explained, that is what Portugal politics are. Well done.

[@alucs6362]

Ótimo comentário, é absolutamente a análise correta na minha opinião. For the English speakers: Great comment, this is absolutely the correct analysis in my opinion.

[@rui.craveiro]

This comment is the perfect and complete example of the mindset that got us where we are.

[@dustin2269]

Everything is far right, when you are far left.

[@thegamingconqueror7955]

CHEGA (from the thumbnail) isn't far right, far right political parties are illegal in the Portuguese constitution, CHEGA doesn't seat on the far right seats of the European Parliament, they seat moderate right. Portugal has far left, left and center political parties, Chega is the only right political party and is branded as Fat Right by the mainstream midia. Not to mention we have a Communist party, which publicly supports dictatorships... And CHEGA is the one labelled "undemocratic". The media is run by members of the PS political party (the Director of information of one of the main news channels, SIC, is the brother of Antonio Costa, the Prime minister that just quit due to being investigated on allegations of corruption), which has been in power 21 years out of the last 30. For context, the elected "right" partys in Portugal are CHEGA, Iniciativa Liberal (a Liberal Party considered right, the only instance of this I know of in Europe) and PSD, a social democratic party. Our "center" is in reality center left... This country is the poorest of western Europe for a reason, we're govern by incompetence and corruption which is reelected every four years by the largest demographic group, pensioners, followed by people who work for the state and people who don't work and live off of the State, giving no contribution. The real working class, the minority, can't fight this off, that why we have one of, if no the largest percentage of emigration in Europe. All of our brightest and educated minds leave this darkhole in search from a better life, going for earning 1,300€ at the end of the month here to 13,000€ else where. Please understand we're stuck on a vicious cycle of PS bankrupting the country and PSD coming in, fixing most of the issues in 4 years, and the media branding them as the cause of the problem, to which PS is elected again, repeating the cycle. It comes to no one's surprise that studies in Portugal show the more qualifications one has, the more likely they are to vote right, with the large majority of people with no studies voting PS, the ones easily manipulated by the media. I haven't even address the housing crisis or the massive and unchecked amount of immigration from India and Bangladesh that's flooding the country, and subsequently Europe, receiving Portuguese nationality without even speaking the language, or the public hospitals with 800 days waiting list JUST TO SET AN APPOINTMENT, or the lack of teachers that are forced to live in vans because their job is 600km away from their home... It's pointless. I don't vote CHEGA, never have, but they not only have have every right to exist, they are a necessity, and the people agree, otherwise no one would vote for them.

[@Marianafxfigueira]

Can I show my friends your comment? Finally I see a person with commonsense! 😅 Thank you so much

[@showtimeblc]

Chega é de extrema direita não importa as voltas que tentes dar campeão Chega nunca vai chegar ao poder nem que fodas todo facista de merda

[@sanchodacruz3587]

Where's that place where Portuguese go to earn 13000 a month? I may be interested... Where do you got that study about people with studies most likely vote right? Because what I am seeing is an "extreme right" without concrete and realistic proposals deceiving people without studies and critical analysis capacity with populisms. About the housing problem, wasn't the "right" side that created the golden visas? Well, that was a good step into the housing problem we are facing now... The current "left" government at least is developing housing support programs. And the teachers problems is not something new, is something that come from the far past. When the right was in charge, it was the same or even worst, the right didn't actually do nothing about it... The right government freezed teacher's carrer some years ago, and now the left has been trying to help them. About the cycle that you are referring, this time the "left" doesn't leave the country in bankruptcy, so let's see what the "right" will do if they win the next elections...

[@thegamingconqueror7955]

@@sanchodacruz3587 Where? I'll tell you. Dentists in the Netherlands earn 16,000€ a month after 3 years in practice according to BGB Dentistry, cardiologists in Germany earn between 6,500€ and 22,520€ monthly according to salary explorer, software engineers in Switzerland earn between 111,702€ and 219,567€ annually according to levels fyi, do your own research. People with fewer studies do tend to vote left according to a study run by Catolica and shared by Publico, also, the right does have multiple proposals, maybe you should take a littlebit of you day to actually investigate and learn about their proposals instead of spewing ignorance and calling everything you're not informed about "populism". Gold visas don't amount to more than 3% of total house purchases in Portugal according to polígrafo. And the lovely housing support programs you mention the left is providing are no more than empty promises, no more than all the others Antonio Costa made along these last 8 year that he didn't keep (Expresso). Regarding the Teachers situation, the word you're looking for is "froze" not "freezed" and no, it wasn't the Right that froze them, it was PS, the government of José Sócrates (Polígrafo), the same government that gave Portugal the last bankruptcy, the same government that signed the troika memorandum that the Left loves to blame the right for (Publico). Thank you for proving my point, no better proof that people are being manipulated by the media into hating the right than the comment you wrote. I've attempted to provide links but KZbin deletes the comment, so you'll have to search it yourself, I've provided where I got the information from. I won't be devoting any more time replying to you further seeing as you don't demonstrate critical thinking and don't even bother researching the points you defend, it's not my job to inform you.

[@thegamingconqueror7955]

@@sanchodacruz3587 Where? I'll tell you. Dentists in the Netherlands earn 16,000€ a month after 3 years in practice according to BGB Dentistry, cardiologists in Germany earn between 6,500€ and 22,520€ monthly according to salary explorer, software engineers in Switzerland earn between 111,702€ and 219,567€ annually according to levels fyi, do your own research. People with fewer studies do tend to vote left according to a study run by Catolica and shared by Publico, also, the right does have multiple proposals, maybe you should take a littlebit of you day to actually investigate and learn about their proposals instead of spewing ignorance and calling everything you're not informed about "populism". Gold visas don't amount to more than 3% of total house purchases in Portugal according to polígrafo. And the lovely housing support programs you mention the left is providing are no more than empty promises, no more than all the others Antonio Costa made along these last 8 year that he didn't keep (Expresso). Regarding the Teachers situation, the word you're looking for is "froze" not "freezed" and no, it wasn't the Right that froze them, it was PS, the government of José Sócrates (Polígrafo), the same government that gave Portugal the last bankruptcy, the same government that signed the troika memorandum that the Left loves to blame the right for (Publico). Thank you for proving my point, no better proof that people are being manipulated by the media into hating the right than the comment you wrote. I've attempted to provide links but KZbin deletes the comment, so you'll have to search it yourself, I've provided where I got the information from. I won't be devoting any more time replying to you further seeing as you don't demonstrate critical thinking and don't even bother researching the points you defend, it's not my job to inform you.

[@brunoleal6323]

the portuguese media is a joke. As a Portuguese I'm gone vote on CHEGA. WE need to make Portugal Great Again

[@thewizardcat9934]

I always find it funny how Portugal history seems to be really similar to Spanish one, and its seems that it holds up to this day.

[@feastguy101]

You should compare it with post colonial Brasil. It’s creepy af, even the dictatorships had the same name.

[@marcofaria5343]

Actually, Spanish history is similar to Portuguese history, because everything that we've done they go and copy it

[@jorgepimentel6979]

2 regimes with the same name is the ONLY thing Portugal and post colonial Brasil have in common @@feastguy101

[@feastguy101]

@@jorgepimentel6979 a corrupt constitutional monarchy in the 19th century? A corrupt, ineffective republic in the beginning of the 20th? A quasi fascist dictatorship immediately after? The history of Portugal and Brasil from 1822 to 1945 is largely similar, and only begins to diverge in a significant way with the Second World War and it’s consequences.

[@sanchodacruz3587]

​@@marcofaria5343Yes, you're right. And Portugal is more than 3 hundred years older than Spain.

[@YanVermeer]

It is better to call these parties such as Chega, of PVV in the Netherlands, rightwing patriotic parties. In the current conditions of mass migration in Europe ()and USA etc), it is necessary to have parties that go against the Agenda ...

[@filipevaz9328]

Chega right now, couldn't be described as "Economic Liberals", honestly, they can't be described as any other thing but populist. At the same time they defend significant relief on taxation, they also defend agriculture subsidiaries, pensions raises, Police/Firefighters/Medical staff subsidiaries, Professors salary raises. They are the whole package, they want to do it all.

[@Mpl3564]

Without saying how they'll pay for all that.

[@JorgeLourenco000]

Socialist spotted.

[@nntflow7058]

They're only promising thing, everyone knows that they can't actually fulfilled most of these promises.

[@JorgeLourenco000]

@@nntflow7058 like every other party since 1976. Not a single one of them can fulfill all their proposals. The point here is, most of the parties of the "system" are afraid they will lose the exemption they have doing business below the table. Portugal did not become one of the most corrupt countries in Europe randomly.

[@Bajolzas]

@@Mpl3564 except they did say (if it will work is another thing)

[@DarthGriphin]

I, like most other portuguese people will also be immigrating soon enough, i am 15 currently, but living in what i would say, one of the poorest regions in Portugal, Baixo Alentejo, i see no alternative but to just go abroad to actually have a chance to work up the ladder, because Portugal isn't a meritocracy, you either know the right people or you don't get up in life, i am not going to university, just to get a shitty job with work hours resembling south korea, just to get payed the minimum salary.

[@nitr0gen949]

Do you plan to go to university then move abroad or simply move abroad after highschool?

[@DarthGriphin]

​@@nitr0gen949 go to university then go abroad

[@pablodelnorte9746]

Your English is amazing! Parabens.

[@DarthGriphin]

@@pablodelnorte9746 thanks bro

[@sapereaudediogenes7282]

Or you tell your parents to vote for Chega, to get these Problems Fixed! Or they just continue to vote for the same two Partys they have been voting for the last 45 years and you just like i did once are forced to go and work abroad. Pro Typ from me, Universaty in Germany is Free! And we have many Portuguese here.

[@mourgos1234]

Greek PM also made a "Family ministry" last summer and all the new minister (an unmarried woman btw) did so far was to bring same-sex political marriage law into the parliament 🤣🤣

[@drudastheone]

im Portuguese and at some point, ministers and secretaries were being hired and fired at such a quick pace that i went to Spain for the 22/23 new year eve and i remember being constantly checking the news to see if other one was fired. i guess smt like 5/6 ministers and secretaries got out in less than a week, but forgive my memory for not remembering the exact number :)

[@kamiltrojnar3178]

Portugal is officially joining honorary Eastern Europe. Drink Ginja and do some squatting. A warm welcome. TBH, Portugal had been doing quite alright in the recent years, but a lot of issues are ignored. I'm from Poland and for Ukrainian refugees, I had sorted out things in a matter of days, that in Portugal takes years. Taxation is OK, but free access to high quality public services of the ultra rich does not work well(as rich does not pay income tax, they get money from renting etc.). In fact it would be beneficial if country actually had some 4 zones like - Lisbon area, Madeira, Azores and the rest. Because let's be honest minimum wage in Lisbon should be around 1500 EUR, as life is extremely expensive here. Also digital nomads need to be taxed somehow, as now if someone earns 3000 EUR in Portugal his considered Rich and taxed heavily. But that's not really a case in the countries were digital nomads get their salary(and income taxation).

[@goncaloaraujo6644]

IL is pushing different economic zones too. It would be a very good ideia tbh

[@eaglemob]

Try the south on a touristic zone, for example Albufeira, Quarteira and if you try Vale Do Lobo then maybe you need 50000 € if you have a HOUSE or Villa. Actually maybe more. They raise my I.M.I because a have a good view, i am not a tourist. My house is from the 50's. My ancestors start to build it in the 30's but is registered as the 50's. And yes i see from Ohao until about Albufeira, the house was there before the Gov-Concelho De Loule higher up a thing that is more then payed. The difference in Portugal is big depending where you live.

[@joaosoares2570]

@@goncaloaraujo6644 No, it wouldnt. So people from Alentejo would earn what? 500 euros? They would be pretty much confined to where they were born because they couldnt afford spending 2 days in Lisbon or other expensive areas while people from Lisbon would be able to go on holidays anywhere and enjoy they ultra low prices.

[@mustachiog]

What?! Portugal had been doing quite alright in the recent years? Are you kidding me?! Taxation is OK? You probably don't pay what I pay! How come taxation is OK, when our public services are destroyed? Like, dude our taxation is one of the highest in EU, and our minimal wave is around 800 ish euros. If you don't know what portuguese are struggling with, just be quiet

[@epic8923]

​@@mustachiogWell, taxation in denmark is also quite high and people there don't seem to mind it that much. Mostly because that money is actually going into improving the public services that the country has. That's the issue with Portugal and many other countries around the world, greedy, self interest politicians shove tax payer money into their pocket instead of investing in the country. That's what, in my opinion, we should be calling out instead of just saying " uhh tax bad!!! government bad!!!!" If we elect politicians who actually give a damn about the country then I personally wouldn't mind paying high taxes perhaps others wouldn't too.And lets be honest, today's Portugal compared to Portugal from the late/early 2000'/10's is better, not by much but I'd still reckon it's better.

[@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714]

Will you ever stop calling the center right far right?

[@PhilipMarcYT]

They have no idea what far right actually is and the more they poke the bear, the more it increases.

[@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714]

@@PhilipMarcYT They should read up on the boy who cried wolf. If common sense is far right...

[@thunderbug8640]

"far" that word doesnt mean what it used to. By this kind of usage I’m "far" away from my keyboard while typing lol.

[@TheSaltyGendo]

They are comprised of racist and xenophobic nationalist who think that scapegoating the ciganos will think everything. You can tell they are fans of the mustache man.

[@duartepedro6475]

Nice video, as a portuguese I would caracterize Chega as socially right wing definitely but economically they have been spotted supporting such things as extreme wealth redistribution and such things, there are many sources of contradictions like that online, so economically i would say they are just populist, maybe consider looking into that for the next portugal video, cheers from Portugal!!

[@Feeshermon]

They just swing whichever way the wind blows, even if it is nonsensical or contradictory. Classic populism, really simple stuff. Obviously a lot of what they say will objectively not be possible, but all that matters to them is gaining vote % and winning elections, not governing.

[@chrisbennett6260]

interesting

[@artonio5887]

Chega isnt consistent at all, they want to reduce taxes and at the same time they want to increase a bunch of social spendings, i don't get where they'll get the money for all of that while also reducing taxes. It's a buzz word party imo. But oh well.

[@ab-ym3bf]

It is typical for "far right" parties to have that left/right split. You see it with Wilders in the Netherlands, and the fascists of Italy and the Nazi's of Germany way back when.

[@MVSSENJU]

That's it! They didn't mencion it in the video, but I'm pretty sure most people that vote Chega do it because they resent the boom of imigrants that came in the last couple of years. The economic measures of chega have always been a bit fuzzy, but people vote in them despite not believing or understanding very well what those measures are beyond "we are going to end corruption" and other big slogans like that.

[@nightcoreiscoold]

As a "Chega supporter" I can say that we are feed up with all this corruption, people that don't even have a job and have everything paid by the goverment, we want a better life! A lot of people see Chega as a racist/homofobic party, especially if we are talking about gypsies, but I don't think that's true.

[@broadcastmadnesss]

If you're poor, you will continue being poor with Chega. If you're very rich, you will do ok. The only difference is that you will be able to be a bit more racist, xenophobic and misogynist.

[@chriskasprzyk6235]

I wish Chega the best of luck. They are exactly what Portugal needs right now. Taxes and bureaucracy are criminally high. Immigration is far too high among groups that are more likely to be a net negative on the economy and among those who will under no circumstances try to assimilate into Portuguese culture.

[@nbgoodiscore1303]

Far-right? Just right.

[@hismajesty6272]

Ikr. It’s nothing unusual to be right of the literal socialists…

[@brunoalves-pg9eo]

Chega is not a far-right party. It is labeled that way by the opposition, but it's much more moderate than Le Pen's party, or even Meloni's. It's a traditional right-wing party with a populist rethoric.

[@𠂢]

Note that CHEGA is not far right, as the portuguese constitution prohibits that type of ideology. Also, PSD, as the name says (social democrats, which is a centre-left ideology), is centre-left, not centre-right, like many past leaders of the party have said like Rui Rio.

[@Mpl3564]

Nope. Names are useless in this context. The PSD programme is similar to any other in his centre-right European family of parties. Only those well biased to the right have such view. There are also communist saying that PS is right of centre, BTW. A question of lents...

[@𠂢]

@@Mpl3564 so you're saying past leaders of their own party don't know what ideology it is?

[@Mpl3564]

@@𠂢 In the case of PSD, yes, sure. Everybody knows that Social Democratic parties do not belong to the European People Party. This one gathers Christian Democracies. May be the founder of PSD, Sá Carneiro, had different ideas, but it was decades ago. Chega is different. The guy is an oppportunist capable of promising eveything and its opposite , but the prevailing message is far-right. Of course, nobody presents himself as an extremist, but that's what he is.

[@𠂢]

@@Mpl3564 im talking about rui rio, not sá carneiro. about ventura, if you think hes an extremist go protest to the constitutional court

[@sam11gambas]

@@Mpl3564 You are kind of brainwashed not gonna lie, do some more research before trying to educate others on the internet, you just come accross as dumb.

[@vi6ddarkking]

The reason we here in Portugal have been seemingly less right leaning. Is because the migration crisis has affected us far less since we're neither a destination country nor part of any of the migration routes due to our non existent mediterranean shore line. Also our small economy forced our immigration policy to be summarized with the phrase: "Germany is that away." But the problems with leftist economics has finally began to be too hard to ignore. Also the only way, the Chega party is Far Right if your center is Karl Marx.

[@goncaloaraujo6644]

CHEGA are just socialists disguised as a right wing party. their economic policies are left wing

[@uncompressed_wav_file]

If you were a person that calls Chega far-right, what would be the most likely reasons?

[@filipe5722]

​@@uncompressed_wav_fileThe likely reason being that they are way farther to the right than all the other right wing parties.

[@vi6ddarkking]

@@uncompressed_wav_file I am not. I agree with their policies. But if I had to put myself in the shoes of a current leftist. Their tough on crime attitude and disdain for immigration are the left's favorite beating sticks. So I would likely go with those.

[@vi6ddarkking]

@@uncompressed_wav_file I am not. I agree with their policies. But if I had to put myself in the shoes of a current leftist. Their tough on crime attitude and disdain for immigration are the left's favorite beating sticks. So I would likelly go with those.

[@Akephalos204]

Portugal Caralho ….. indo para o caralho digo

[@jenniferjuliana10]

Estou a rir e a chorar ao mesmo tempo ahahaha

[@diegorodrigovelasquezmeniz8026]

Portugal is brazil 2.0 now haha

[@helenaasousa]

Certamente!

[@JustinCase-ld4ih]

​@@diegorodrigovelasquezmeniz8026You're delusional

[@josejoao1621]

I command Costa for resigning. Many countries have leaders with scandal after scandal that do not resign…

[@diogocarvalho2934]

Well he is an example of that too. If you ask him now I'm sure he would say he regrets it and he was famous for holding ministers involved in the worst scandals indefinitely

[@PORTUGAL-AD-AETERNUM]

só o fez porque pensou que estava a ser investigado pela PJ 😂😂😂 Não te esqueças que esta pessoa foi apanhado numa escuta em 2006 se não estou em erro a informar certos pessoas do processo casa pia para não aparecem em certos sítios!!!! mas as pessoas gostam de se esquecer disso!!!

[@josejoao1621]

@@PORTUGAL-AD-AETERNUM acredita… Há piores, muito piores…

[@PORTUGAL-AD-AETERNUM]

​@@josejoao1621nao vale a pena já estão todos formatados

[@Andrew-px9fj]

Ate you joking? How many scandals with his own appointment making him also directly responsible happened and resigned!??? He resigned because of the whole cumulative, not sure if he still would if it was an isolated case tbh

[@zeitgeist888]

Something I find interesting is the common action to name right wing or right leaning political groups as "far right" and almost always in a negative way. However the left leaning or strong left wing groups are almost never labeled far left. This is harming dialog and open consideration of individual groups and specific policy concern. The reason so called far right groups are gaining ground in so many countries is often due to a concern the population has that isn't being addressed by any centrist or left wing group currently or recently in power. Farmers and unions being labeled far right is laughable yet it is happening and appears to try and denigrate their concerns rather than address them. If this continues far right will become meaningless and any concern will dissolve at the same time these groups will gain power and support and any chance to exclude extreme views or policy will die off.

[@idcallname8410]

Why are there people under each video who complains about this nonsense, I can hear "American" every time I read these. There are right wing and right leaning parties and they just don't attract that much attention as the far-right do, hell, they don't attract any because they are normal to see in the parliaments, while the far-left parties mostly have low representation in Europe and didn't overtake any elections lately. These complains are meaningless.

[@zeitgeist888]

@@idcallname8410 Can you point out some examples of media calling a group in EU country far left? Labels in and of themselves don't matter so much unless they are used intentionally to denigrate a group or political party. Call a group Nazi, Neo Nazi or fascist and it may be too far but call a group far right and it is intended to just fall under the threshold of acceptable language but still have the chilling effect.

[@idcallname8410]

@@zeitgeist888 do you see any far left party being relevant in Europe?

[@coyotelong4349]

@@zeitgeist888 Far left parties aren’t nearly as relevant in today’s Europe as far right parties are

[@opteko9567]

​@@idcallname8410 Yes. PSOE in Spain, for example

[@wiki3065]

It’s not far right, it’s conservative right. get your facts straight son

[@stefrob]

I would really like to point out that this video really looks very neat. New animations, new presentations, and an overall amazing choice/use of colours and images!

[@matthews1256]

Is the far right in the room with us?

[@Jennyeq]

2 years ago I was called a 'far right extremists' for saying I wasn't going to give my healthy 12 year the covid jab - since than I've concluded 'far right' is just a label given to anyone who thinks for themselves!

[@diogorodrigues747]

@@Jennyeq You're one of the reasons why the hospitals in Portugal are as they are these days. Not the only one of course but you're part of the problem and, in a fair world, you should not be accepted in the health system if you have a bad viral infection and you weren't vaccinated. You know, Darwin's Theory of Evolution solves everything...

[@coyotelong4349]

@@Jennyeq Nope, none of your ideas are original actually 😂

[@Patrick-y4d1z]

@@Jennyeq Far right is just a term people throw around for someone who disagress with them. Has no meaning anymore.

[@Pixels666P]

People's Monarchist Party?

[@andrepovoa988]

O PPM no PSD-PPM, Partido Popular Monárquico

[@espadarte_ex]

It's the least voted party in the coutry but they have wealthy sponsors.

[@miguelcardoso1903]

@FrancJ5793 And because they threated a lawsuit if they didn't integrated them and used the AD nameplate

[@JFDCamara]

No, it's not a communist monarchist party lol Funnily enough though most portuguese monarchists despise it and would never vote for them

[@DiogoGaming2]

Yes, People´s Stupidity Party, not relevant at all we dont want nothing to do with monarchy

[@RNKel1]

TLDR throws around the claim ‘far-right’ too much now, when these parties are seemingly just moderate to center right. Could we say this is bias?

[@Lourenco-wp2lu]

Chega is defenitly far-right, go and Watch their parlement members opinions

[@RNKel1]

@@Lourenco-wp2lu I’ll have to see, as although I myself am right leaning I do not what extremists in power from either side

[@HistoryBuff_0]

No we couldn't. By all metrics of political theory Chega is far-right. It's the right wingers who freak out after hearing "far-right" because they're scared to admit what they believe in.

[@The_oneand_Only1]

Yes, it’s annoying. Far right to me is are groups that believe they have supremacy over others regarding others because of ethnicity for no valid reason. What they claim to be far right is just commons sense and people wanting national identity and culture to remain. It’s funny how the extreme left are all for minorities and third world countries for maintaining their cultures but not for west cultures. The west must erase any history they have and any culture that sets them apart.

[@Wulfuswulferson]

To quote, 'Chega are described as far right by much of the international press though Chega disagree', then they list their stated values using Chega's wording. TLDR aren't calling them far-right and have presented them using their own language without making a value judgement on it, so pretty un-biased.

[@Sir_Alex-rd3sk]

I think that you got something wrong. The People's Monarchist party in Portugal has not amount of power. They don't have a single seat in the assembly of the Republic. They only have one seat in regional government and 1 in local government.

[@rive3051]

Describing Chega as a far right party is just plain wrong.

[@vap72a25]

Do you REALLY need to ask WHY? if you need it’s because you are living inside a bubble

[@realkekz]

Most people don't live in Portugal :

[@mrjaggerelvispaprica9938]

"Everything I don't like is far-right"

[@FlashdogFul28]

What like not being Anti-semitic ? or Racist

[@mrjaggerelvispaprica9938]

I was talking about how THEY describe Chega as far right just because they dont like it when they are supposedly are impartial

[@ChronicTheHempHog-mf3nh]

@@mrjaggerelvispaprica9938they have a left wing bias I remember when they advertised an opinionated video on nebula I think and a clip they showed was just woke takes

[@SeanKhayat999]

That's how it works

[@FaustsKanaal]

You do realize voter turnout in Portugal was 38% and it has never been much higher than 40% right. A lot of those non voters are for a large part rural, very conservative people. Chega can make huge gains just by convincing those people to go vote, often for the first time ever in their lives.

[@st4rpt_603]

Let's not pretend that a lot of older folk aren't more left-leaning (be it PS for the pensions or PCP) due to living during the dictatorship party

[@nbgoodiscore1303]

I'm 24 and for the first time I have a reason to vote.

[@JustinCase-ld4ih]

AHAHAHAHAHA, you're so desperate that you lie and twist reality...

[@JustinCase-ld4ih]

​@@nbgoodiscore1303Correct. Saving the country from socialism

[@Luzitanium]

There is Far Right in Portugal but not in the parlament, get yourself educated in the matter.

[@costaolisboeta]

he is clearly more than you are

[@pedrooliveira8463]

People who normally vote for PS are old people who dont care about politics, always vote for PS and always say that Portugal is going from bad to worse, Gypsies who have never worked a day in their lives and still have new Porches , BMW, Mercedes in their houses and normally dont pay rent among other things. There are other people that also abuse the system in terms of benefits etc, and on the other end of the spectrum there are people who come from influence/money who get positions within the party only to further their own interests. Soo people are sick of it and we wanna a change . 22 yeas of Socialism and we have, like someone says ,education, Health, Security completely destroyed, uncontrolled immigration and we need to stop this. Media and Left-leaning people try to say that Chega is bad , is fascist , racist and etc to scare people to not vote for them.

[@micaeloliveira2727]

Everyone in Europe is tired of not being listened to 😮 we want to preserve our identity and safety. Migration in Portugal is welcomed by the palop countries (Portuguese speaking countries) that share our costumes and religion . This stupid ineffective politics in Europe will break the Euro apart, the UK is gone and more to come unfortunately. We need people that do the will of the people

[@FaithfulOfBrigantia]

Migration from the CPLP is NOT any more welcome than from anywhere else. CPLP culture is drastically different from that of Portugal, and as far as safety is concerned, the CPLP are all among the absolute worst countries in the world and it shows, as they commit the most disproportional amount of crimes in relation to their population. The CPLP is NOT welcome, the Portuguese are absolutely fed up with them, the polls show it and so will the next elections.

[@Switzerland-t3u]

As an legal immigrant I will vote for Far right!

[@Velocity3644]

The more you talked about chega, the more i started to like them😂

[@miguelpadeiro762]

They're a far right party that rely on populism, heeding the cries of a miserable population, and outing select minority groups as "the fault of it all. To top it all of they're led by a clown. Thankfully. If we had a charismatic man on our hands we'd be in trouble If that's your cup of tea...

[@goncalosilva958]

Chega is a conservative right wing party. Not a far right party. Chega wants to avoid that Portugal becomes another "France or Sweden" of Europe where the values of Christianity are threatened. This is just one point of many that I would like to correct in your video. Thank you.

[@tcbbctagain572]

Ele tem os seus momentos

[@livelovelaugh2130]

I find all of these European "right-wing" parties so underwhelming. They may have something reasonable to say at times, but it gets lost in stupid of other things. They are reactionaries who have very clear ideas what what they oppose and very cague ones about what they support.

[@ruilopes00]

Perfectly put. They all fall apart when they are at the wheel

[@David-fi9yu]

I'm seeing a lot of comments of non-Portuguese people being awfully confident with their knowledge on Portugal when they don't even live here. Please, if you don't live here, don't act like you know what our people are going through.

[@stepanotrisal1512]

I'll take a wild stab in the dark and say it's because Portugal had basically no right wing parties for almost 50 years and it's not been working exactly wonderfully

[@pistoneteo]

Far right is the center of 30 years ago. 😂

[@ergodeus]

Yes, and 200 years ago the center wouldn't oppose a monarchy or a dictatorship. Your point? We evolve?

[@pistoneteo]

@@ergodeus Well from the 1800s we evolved. From the 2000s we clearly don't.

[@eaglemob]

Was the CDS correct ?

[@RNKel1]

Even moderate now seemingly is far right in some people’s minds

[@ASocialistTransGirl]

@@pistoneteoClearly, we do. History and progress move forward.

[@First-Name--Last-Name]

One word: immigration

[@PORTUGAL-AD-AETERNUM]

Chega is not far rigth, you cant have far rigth parties in portugal because of the constituion. But PS, BE, PCP are far left!!!

[@jeremymanson1781]

"...we hate state interference....so we are setting up a ministry for families..." 🤔

[@theconqueringram5295]

Yes, a two party duopoly does suck.

[@wh880]

How are any of the policies far right?🤣🤣

[@VyndakistOfficial]

The media is scared of capitalism

[@Patrick-y4d1z]

TLDR are just far-left. So to them, 99% of people are far-right.

[@hismajesty6272]

Because the news agencies don’t like them.

[@SeanKhayat999]

Same question I have

[@thijmstickman8349]

"Reduce the state to its minimum essential functions" "Ban Mosques" "Fight gender Ideology". That seems textbook far right IMO

[@lordmaur180]

Doing something most people ask for is not populism, it is democracy. Giving money or gifts to people or payng for control of midia to get votes or personal propaganda is populism

[@inbb510]

The People can be wrong. There is a reason why politicians lead countries and not People.

[@lordmaur180]

@@inbb510 Dude, thinking you know better what is best for people than thenselves is the definition of tyrany, and yes i know what you mean and i partially agree, but the point is the definition of populism

[@inbb510]

@@lordmaur180 noone wants to pay tax but governments still demand people pay it. It's no more tyrannical then that. At the end of the day, people get the government they deserve and Portugal elected the Socialists so they will get stuff Socialists campaigned for or prioritised in their manifesto.

[@inbb510]

@@lordmaur180 there's always an element of tyranny in every organised society. Otherwise you will just have anarchy. Democracy is just debating about what sort of tyranny we should tolerate.

[@Criticodopenico]

There is no far right in Portugal, Chega is a right party, but mostly left parties in portuguese parlament

[@ricard0m0rais]

The thing is, decreasing taxes, but keeping huge state companies and raising pensions for retirees, sending all the immigrants away when they keep the small businesses open because 1 in 3 Portuguese are moving to other countries... this can put us in bankruptcy... and on 10 of March communist party BE won't be in front of Liberal Party IL and Chega will be very closer to PS than what that graph shows, believe me...

[@ArnoBach]

Not far right, just right. Legacy media uses the term far right as a derogatory term and also when it doesn't even apply. It is either for us or you are far right, which is a joke.

[@mmarques2736]

It is a far-right party, you are suffering from cognitive dissonance. It has a political program based on xenophobia and ultra-libertarian politics, if you support its program, you are supporting a far-right program and you have to own it. If you don’t like it, ask yourself why you want to support them, and then think of a less radical way to make your concerns part of the political discussion.

[@MoveAlongGo]

Chega just wants The best for Portugal

[@lip3dits]

wrong

[@chiaraventura8384]

We are all screwed. (We as humans)

[@deolimjo]

as Portuguese citizen, I am fed up and disconnected with Portuguese politics, I do like some of Chega’s policies on taxation and on political correctness, we are fast loosing our identity, look at the example of UK, as result of multiculturalism has lost its values, Portugal needs a different approach one that I have longed for sometime this elections maybe be a great opportunity to change the Political landscape.

[@abody499]

has it? which values has the UK (the entire country according to you) lost?

[@deolimjo]

@@abody499 Judeu/ Christian values as you embraced other Gods in the name of multiculturalism and secularism.

[@abody499]

I did? really? I didn't know I did that. But the question is which particular values? I'd like to know which values I lost after I apparently embraced other gods, according to you. [edit: I must make it clear I don't know what it means to have "embraced other gods"] [double edit: but I did raise an eyebrow at the idea of embracing gods in the name of secularism]

[@archyarchfiendx2938]

TLDR are obsessed with right leaning parties. They have no issue with far left or even communist parties just right leaning parties are an issue for them.

[@danp5073]

Chega Chega, let's go Chega

[@lip3dits]

fuck chega. não passarão

[@MartimCorreia10]

As a portuguese, I can say that our wages being 1000 euros before taxes with houses costing 1500 euros of rent, with terrible overworking environments, 30% of the monthly wage going to the state and not getting social benefits, but worse benefits every year and with the rise of immigrants from central europe and the usa inflating our prices, making competing against them impossible and the fact that our immigration law just says that if you want to be here, you can be, you don't need a working contract or anything, which a lot of Indians took advantage, makes our system terrible in a lot of ways, too many indians, too many rich americans, too much taxes, piss poor wages and no economic growth (people say portugal is but in reality its just inflated numbers from the americans that come here) and in OCDE we have the biggest emigration rate with 30% of our young people immigrating because of those reasons. People say this is a problem of the western world, but its false, in Portugal specially Lisbon and Porto this has gone to such a big scale that people aren't surviving anymore, they're slowly dying and being replaced by Indians that don't care about being treated like dogs. Its truly shameful.

[@SeanKhayat999]

WOW You portugese have suffered

[@ricardorocha813]

We had Soares- Cavaco first dance followed by Guterres- Barroso, second dance, just to have Socrates-Passos Coelho third dance. Montenegro thinks he can dance with Costa but we are tired of this incompetence/ corruption that blow our country away. Chega worth's a chance so Stop repeat the infamous leftist speech of FAR-Right and so on. If Chega gets the power and became a far right dictatorship it will not be me or the ones who vote Chega to be blame but these so called moderate who are ruining Portugal for decades.

[@TheRealHelvetica]

Why go out of your way to call moderately conservative leaders “far right”?

[@SeanKhayat999]

Cause he's part of the system

[@dinurusanu7902]

How is this far right 😂😂😂😂😂

[@tomgachagan1347]

low tax policy and anti-immigration policies usually tend to make people far-right

[@dinurusanu7902]

@@tomgachagan1347 ik but it really shouldn’t be far right

[@zbynekurbanek3345]

@@tomgachagan1347 far right is no tax - low tax can make you want no tax ...but! far right is also no restrictions on immigration (because no taxes mean no state meaning no borders) anti-immigration policies are logically not right wing and cannot make people far right

[@Patrick-y4d1z]

@@tomgachagan1347 Anti-immigration has literally nothing to do with far-right. And low tax policiy isn't far-right either. Do you know what far-right means?

[@𠂢]

far right is prohibited by the constituion so thats one thing.

[@Carlos-tm6zk]

unprecedented majority? Didn't Socrates and Guterres had also on their second terms? And how did that turn out?