Why the Jedi Council DESPISED Ventress - Star Wars Explained

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@mRibbons
@mRibbons 11 ай бұрын
It's bizarre how deceit is so prevalent in the dark side, but dark siders still seem so blind to it.
@Ezinma88
@Ezinma88 11 ай бұрын
I've always found it weird that dark side masters feel angry and betrayed when their apprentices attempt to kill them. It's LITERALLY written into the rule of two the one will embody the power, and the other will crave it. So, you have to know they'll attempt to take you out at some point. Bane was actually disappointed that Zannah waited so long to attack him. He started to doubt his choice in apprentice. So, why were so many others shocked at the perceived betrayal/
@mylesharvey6488
@mylesharvey6488 11 ай бұрын
Exactly why the Later Day Sith were so weak.
@Indytelevision
@Indytelevision 11 ай бұрын
Liars lie so much they become vulnerable to lies whereas people who tell the truth aren't.
@robertagu5533
@robertagu5533 11 ай бұрын
They think to a being that they are the ones to be all, end all (possibly) it seems an think wether they are or not, "chosen one" or not that that'd be irrelevant due to them thinking of "how powerful, etc they are" an they'll be able to sense and/or handle ANY threat from anyone no matter where an whom it comes from. Probably even including they're apprentice... For some odd reasons or another
@thalmoragent9344
@thalmoragent9344 11 ай бұрын
​​@@Ezinma88They all believed they would be "the exception" to the rule... not surprising, it's their arrogance that fuels such a misconception
@kuze2474
@kuze2474 11 ай бұрын
Ventress is one of my favorite chars. Her death was heartbreaking. She would of been good in prequels as a bounty hunter career as she did for a little while in clone wars series.
@ImStillStealingSteel
@ImStillStealingSteel 11 ай бұрын
For Tales of The Jedi S2, I seriously hope they’ll do Ventress’ story. Especially up in til her death. She’s one of my faves as well, and I also was heartbroken with her death. She’s an awesome character and they should do her justice.
@chadsmith7075
@chadsmith7075 11 ай бұрын
me to , one of my favs.
@the_realbwkool
@the_realbwkool 11 ай бұрын
@@ImStillStealingSteel I never actually thought about that. A Tales of the Jedi episode (or even 2) dedicated to Ventress would be incredible
@overnightavenger1470
@overnightavenger1470 11 ай бұрын
When she die. I watched clone wars. Not religiously but last episode I saw her was anakin tracking her down to prove the innocence of asoka
@ImStillStealingSteel
@ImStillStealingSteel 11 ай бұрын
@@the_realbwkool - Exactly :) I mean, I freakin LOVE how they did Dooku’s story. Makes me wanna see more of Dooku in his young yrs. If not, Im happy with what we got :) I really hope they address Ventress’ story. She deserves that.
@dbrennan1523
@dbrennan1523 11 ай бұрын
It was interesting in Dark Disciple to see her fall in love and actually want to run away and leave it all behind for love, and to give up her life for her love. I don't think all the Council despised her, in Dark Disciple it seemed Yoda held compassion for her, and Obiwan seemed forgiving even with all she had done. Also, the council despised her but pardoned her and worked with her.
@creatoruser736
@creatoruser736 11 ай бұрын
The Nightsisters were so powerful that an outlaw wanted to use one of them as a weapon - but not powerful enough to refuse a simple outlaw.
@BillyBasd
@BillyBasd 11 ай бұрын
Yeah that didn't make much sense
@KING-tz6lo
@KING-tz6lo 11 ай бұрын
@@BillyBasdFr 😂
@kpbennett7743
@kpbennett7743 6 ай бұрын
I suppose it had to do with the influence that the outlaw had. Talzin didn't want to lose a branch of the network she had created, so she sacrificed one child for the general benefit of the whole coven.
@brokenbridge6316
@brokenbridge6316 11 ай бұрын
Asajj Ventress is one exceedingly curious individual. I wonder what would've happened had the Jedi actually taken her in.
@quieness
@quieness 11 ай бұрын
There should be a Videogame with her whole story, would be so cool
@Ezinma88
@Ezinma88 11 ай бұрын
Dark Disciple is one of my favourite Star Wars novels. Asajj Ventress and Obi Wan Kenobi are two of my favourite characters in the universe. So, always happy to read a book with lots of both of them. It was really sad to see her go out like that. She really believed that Dooku threw her aside because she was failure. And, that couldn't have been further from the truth. I'm glad she found love and family acceptance again. But, what a brutal existence she had. Not quite sure how she kept getting up in the morning, tbh.
@thalmoragent9344
@thalmoragent9344 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, the likes of her and Maul makes you realize that, despite their wrongdoings, were victims
@shadowbeast2276
@shadowbeast2276 11 ай бұрын
I always loved watching Kenobi & ventress flirting/trolling each other You can't possibly tell me the night sisters couldn't defend against criminals since they did reasonably well against droids
@DLR1997
@DLR1997 11 ай бұрын
They could; they just choose not to fight. Plus The Nightsisters are not a large clan; there are other witches on the planet who would be more than happy to see them gone
@shadowbeast2276
@shadowbeast2276 11 ай бұрын
@@DLR1997 yeah I get that. One thing that also has to be taking in consideration is we don't know the exact size & connections this criminal had
@TwiceStruck
@TwiceStruck 11 ай бұрын
​@@shadowbeast2276 it comes down to numbers, risk 3-5 adult night sisters in battle or give up one child. They could win, but it won't be easy and the losses would be to great even against pirates.
@shadowbeast2276
@shadowbeast2276 11 ай бұрын
@@TwiceStruck and who knows if they have "friends" that can be called in for reinforcements
@andrewmaderer1989
@andrewmaderer1989 11 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed this SW. I already like Ventress as a character but hearing her backstory makes me appreciate her much more. But also this style is exactly why I’m subbed. Your way of narrating with this exact background music while giving me lore I didn’t know about the prequel and Old Republic era will always hit. It just makes the Star Wars galaxy seem so alive and mysterious.
@mickhack8034
@mickhack8034 11 ай бұрын
They didnt because they hadnt sensed her before Ky Narec found her and after he died they already sensed the deep brooding pit of the Dark Side in her
@yleyatarn
@yleyatarn 11 ай бұрын
The order is an L.
@chrisproud4584
@chrisproud4584 11 ай бұрын
​@@yleyatarnqqà
@MattiusW
@MattiusW 11 ай бұрын
She deserves her own movie or mini series.
@weneedcriticalthinking
@weneedcriticalthinking 10 ай бұрын
She would be a great surprise for the Ahsoka series and then later her own series, yes pleases.Imo Asajj Ventress was a great character who should be resurrected. She could usually see right through bullsht and was a champion of the weak with good earnest at the true of heart, there is more to her than what meets the eye.
@DarthCrow
@DarthCrow 11 ай бұрын
I knew some of this... but ya, Asajj was given a raw deal throughout her life... another character made up for the prequels only to come to a bitter end because she could not exist in the sequels.
@dominickgaramella6431
@dominickgaramella6431 11 ай бұрын
Her fight with Anakin at the temple on yavin in the 2D micro series is 100% my favorite lightsaber fight in any and all Star Wars
@elsamariahertervig6171
@elsamariahertervig6171 11 ай бұрын
Such an awesome character. I would love to see her in live action production which will probably never happen.
@donovanbradford8231
@donovanbradford8231 11 ай бұрын
I will say I liked this origin because it explains how she wound up on the planet Duko found her on in the original animated Clone Wars cartoon but also explained her abilities. Because I also thought it a bit odd that she clearly had force abilities and used jedi lightsabers very well but seemed to still be very raw and unrefined almost like she was self taught. Which would make sense given she knew of the jedi and sith but didn't know let alone sense Duko's abilities, but it still didn't explain how she got her lightsabers that she first used. Overall I would have preferred her not to be apart of the Night Sister sense both Maul and his brother were, it gives that in this big wide galaxy only a few races really seem to have any ties to the darkside.
@thalmoragent9344
@thalmoragent9344 11 ай бұрын
5:20 Sad that she started off as a true jedi warrior, only to have the Council to be the cause of her newfound disdain for the jedi. The mavericks like her master and Qui-Gon are the few gems amongst the order The story of her and Maul are similar, at least in the way of abandonment and suffering never truly consoled. The sons and daughter of Dathomir all met a tragic end. (Although, makes you wonder how the Nightsisters couldn't manage to defend against a few slavers from taking one of their own....)
@albertlamar5938
@albertlamar5938 11 ай бұрын
Great story! Thank you. One question: how could a group of outlaws force Mother Talzin to do anything? Her power in both legends and canon seemed more than enough to toast such a group.
@MJH1703
@MJH1703 11 ай бұрын
I don't understand why the night sisters didn't just kill the criminals.
@soularprimestudios5930
@soularprimestudios5930 11 ай бұрын
True
@MatD1979
@MatD1979 9 ай бұрын
Stupendous, I think you're the best at Star Wars videos. The highest respect friend.
@ozmozis6073
@ozmozis6073 29 күн бұрын
I always wondered if Asajj if born at a later time, would've been accepted by Luke. The Jedi order was so stiff and locked in their ways, that those that sought balance and the light were considered unsuitable; even as Yoda preached how the Force 'binds all things' the order never practiced what they preached.
@dreadrath
@dreadrath 11 ай бұрын
The video title's hyperbole is unintentionally funny. The Jedi Council "There is no emotion. There is Peace." Also The Jedi Council "We DESPISE Ventress."
@johne.4884
@johne.4884 11 ай бұрын
It’s insulting they chose to write her dying simping for someone she just met.
@reallybigmistake
@reallybigmistake 7 ай бұрын
Remember in the Clone Wars movie and in the first season of Clone Wars when Obi Wan checks her out and smirks whenever Ventress shows up. It happened in the movie when Obi Wan fights Ventress and she takes off her skirt. It then happens again in Christophis when Obi fights Ventress alone. I miss stuff like this
@LordPrinceIV
@LordPrinceIV 11 ай бұрын
Because they're more good at making more problems for themselves than solutions.
@user-mh1rh3rz1c
@user-mh1rh3rz1c 11 ай бұрын
cough cough anakin cough
@someonebored0100
@someonebored0100 11 ай бұрын
Ventless conquered an entire planet and establish herself as its queen, and that was never touched upon
@morrgash
@morrgash 11 ай бұрын
She is imo the best character of TCW because I started hating her then loved her which is what I love about compelling characters!
@PereMarquette1223
@PereMarquette1223 11 ай бұрын
Ventress’s body was a temple… she was kind of her era’s Darth Talon.
@Gor85
@Gor85 11 ай бұрын
This is so bad. She is fantastic character. She redeemed herself in a way. I knew about Kay. I remember him from Clone Wars. So sad what happened. She wasn't all that evil. I remembered when she left bounty hunters. One asked" You think you're better than us now? Is that it? Asajj said:" No,but now I have a future". That's it. She wanted future,good life. Her families were stolen from her in the most painful ways. Dooku really cared for her,loved her. But had to leave her. He betrayed her because of fear for his life. He was scared. He had no option. I'm so glad she found love. True love and friendship-Quinlan Vos. He was also a maverick😁 like Qui-Gon. Or Obi-Wan in a way. They playfully bickered,had jokes,butted heads often😊 This is what Obi-Wan needed. Another Jedi similar to Anakin😊 Similar. She died as a hero and redeemed herself. She's a true hero of the Republic and the galaxy. Great video😊 May the Force be with you too😊
@jimjam5570
@jimjam5570 10 ай бұрын
Until you realize the republic and Jedi are also evil.
@timryan7422
@timryan7422 11 ай бұрын
Ventress is a great character. I am still undecided if I agree with killing her off in The Dark Disciple. I would like to see or read more of her adventures.
@demetriskatsianis2396
@demetriskatsianis2396 10 ай бұрын
I think that The Dark Disciple was the perfect conclusion of her story. If only it had been included in TCW series...(I also believe that in that case, fans would have gone completely crazy over Ventress and the producers would have been considering strongly to include her in more Star Wars stories and shows)
@bullgator4985
@bullgator4985 11 ай бұрын
Count Dooku is my favorite Star Wars character ever. However, the double curved hilt, light sabres she possessed are my favorite weapons.
@DMBLaan
@DMBLaan 11 ай бұрын
Vetress is, imo, another character that had better development in Legends, than Disney Canon. Though not as bad as some.
@KerplunkyGames
@KerplunkyGames 11 ай бұрын
Orphaned is a strong word. She was an adult for a few of those abandonments. I love Asaaj. She had such a great arc but ended too soon.
@jacksonyon5276
@jacksonyon5276 11 ай бұрын
I just watched this episode today. It’s a 10/10
@_xX_Storm_Xx_
@_xX_Storm_Xx_ 11 ай бұрын
what if dagan gera successfully trained the raiders and start to oppose the empire?
@yleyatarn
@yleyatarn 11 ай бұрын
The raiders are very skilled and well trained some being given sabers would be interesting if they actually succeeded.
@xanderburns1332
@xanderburns1332 11 ай бұрын
I always considered her more of a Sith assassin than an apprentice a tool not a successor
@scp2539
@scp2539 11 ай бұрын
didn't know her end so that was nice to learn, wish she had gotten something better as she was a cool character.
@starwarsguy9803
@starwarsguy9803 9 ай бұрын
Honestly Ventress is one of the Star Wars characters who needs to have a live action debut in some way
@liamwalton3469
@liamwalton3469 11 ай бұрын
I wish Ventress could of been redeemed and become the Padawan of Mace Windu
@devan735
@devan735 11 ай бұрын
this would be interesting
@liamwalton3469
@liamwalton3469 11 ай бұрын
@devan735 ikr he'd be the perfect Master for her with his style plus be able to rein her in
@devan735
@devan735 11 ай бұрын
@@liamwalton3469 she needs someone tough like him shes strong willed herself its a shame a storyline with these two wasnt more explored
@liamwalton3469
@liamwalton3469 11 ай бұрын
@@devan735 Ikr would of been perfect imagine if he knew her former Jedi Master Ky Narec too
@THEPIELORD42
@THEPIELORD42 11 ай бұрын
She would make a good main character in a Sith Survior game
@mattheweaton9111
@mattheweaton9111 11 ай бұрын
In legends she’s still alive
@djnavarro3212
@djnavarro3212 11 ай бұрын
So Ventress’s Jedi Master is much like Master Qui Gon then. Huh. No wonder her and Anakin were nearly so much alike when they were younger
@weneedcriticalthinking
@weneedcriticalthinking 10 ай бұрын
Asajj Ventress was a great character who should be resurrected. She could usually see right through bullsht and was a champion of the weak with good earnest at the true of heart, there is more to her than what meets the eye.
@jackleg2007
@jackleg2007 11 ай бұрын
Always liked her. Nitpick, how did she build her sabre without khyber crystal? Did her master have a spare? In other books, she lived, became a bounty hunter and hooked up with that Jedi with dreadlocks.
@derrickwhatley582
@derrickwhatley582 11 ай бұрын
I always told my wife if they made a live version of her i wanted actress Karen Gillan because the way she Nabula i know she would kill playing Ventress.
@danelamoreaux4166
@danelamoreaux4166 11 ай бұрын
When she died,she wasn't just free,she also found love.
@kingshadow8782
@kingshadow8782 11 ай бұрын
Hell Yeah!
@kingshadow8782
@kingshadow8782 11 ай бұрын
Hype!
@manuelgrothe608
@manuelgrothe608 11 ай бұрын
I vote Tales of The Jedi, The Bad Batch and Kenobi seasons 2-3
@nathanchun4880
@nathanchun4880 11 ай бұрын
The Jedi Council hated two former slaves. Wow that is just sad
@evilchaosboy
@evilchaosboy 11 ай бұрын
I like this Ventriss.
@mariusewert3317
@mariusewert3317 11 ай бұрын
What happend to her after EP3?
@jucecaiman6408
@jucecaiman6408 10 ай бұрын
The more learned about Ventress the more I loved her development and story. Of all the dark side characters in star wars there are only 2 (I've come across so far) who I was able to empathize with: Bane and Ventress.
@haidenstewart3272
@haidenstewart3272 11 ай бұрын
I still think it would’ve been better if she survived past the clone wars and met up with Ahsoka, one former Jedi and one former sith assassin, both in balance with the force now grey Jedi
@Iammarkessex
@Iammarkessex 10 ай бұрын
Aunt flows in town ☺️
@dans5662
@dans5662 11 ай бұрын
I didn't know she died period.
@VergilSparda2024
@VergilSparda2024 5 ай бұрын
Didn't Komari Vosa own those lightsabers beforehand?
@thatguy8514
@thatguy8514 11 ай бұрын
Best lightsabers
@jermf35
@jermf35 11 ай бұрын
Yes i did know yhis befote your holocron. Buy ivdo like the trist to t that you brought and thr more understanding of it. Noe herbstory the early parts are a lot more complete. I wish the Jedi would have asked her to become a Jedi and fully embrace the lite side. That wouldnhave been awesome and she would have been a great Jedi. But it is what it is.i like her story. I just wish it would have lasted longer and that the jedi would have taken her in at this point if her life. Thanks for the new thanks for the new Holocron.
@Armor_of_Torrent
@Armor_of_Torrent 10 ай бұрын
She deserved so much more.
@jackmorgan4817
@jackmorgan4817 3 ай бұрын
What if ashoka n ventress made a grey jedi order
@ryanmeyer3852
@ryanmeyer3852 11 ай бұрын
She was trained in the beginning
@ImmortalAbsol
@ImmortalAbsol 11 ай бұрын
She could have played it cool and the council wouldn't have known she took revenge or what age she began her training.
@MotorcycleCheetah
@MotorcycleCheetah 11 ай бұрын
DAMMIT GALAXY STOP ORPHANING THIS POOR GIRL!!!
@yourefriendlyneighborhoodbuddy
@yourefriendlyneighborhoodbuddy 11 ай бұрын
Imagine if she became a jedi
@davidchase9424
@davidchase9424 11 ай бұрын
Pretty sure being "orphaned" only applies when you are a child.
@robertagu5533
@robertagu5533 11 ай бұрын
The Order WAS being very UNJedi like "despising" her.. IF anything she coulda become an exceptionally gifted an POWERFUL Jedi which is kinda what was on her way to becoming, sorta.. having already BEEN a darksider an lived ALMOST long enough by time of the Empire if she'd lasted long enough thanks to that Quinn Lin Voss love story arc thing shed ultimately i think either somehow become a special Jedi exception OR turned into a version of Asoka tano at worst being something of a Galen Marik but still more good having seen an been through all the bad an it having lost alot of its hold sense Voss nearly turned her.
@ImmortalAbsol
@ImmortalAbsol 11 ай бұрын
Stress signal lol.
@Carcerian
@Carcerian 11 ай бұрын
You know Obi-wan totally hit that!
@chriswebber1468
@chriswebber1468 11 ай бұрын
She didn't die to Dooku, did she? I thought she outlived order 66 and got married
@davidsmith7962
@davidsmith7962 11 ай бұрын
Ventress was a cool character.
@rinokumera5907
@rinokumera5907 11 ай бұрын
Yo
@SHARKVADERS
@SHARKVADERS 11 ай бұрын
...NNNNNNOOOOOOO
@darkjesuit1
@darkjesuit1 11 ай бұрын
Is it me or has Ventress gotten… a little bigger up top in the thumbnail?
@Nate-ht4se
@Nate-ht4se 11 ай бұрын
LOL they bimboified her
@samuelrobles3737
@samuelrobles3737 11 ай бұрын
Day 188 of asking for a part 3 of what if anakin was trained by qui gon
@abscess7476
@abscess7476 11 ай бұрын
/eats crayon
@DakotaSmith-kp4lp
@DakotaSmith-kp4lp 11 ай бұрын
DAKOTA27
@kingshadow8782
@kingshadow8782 11 ай бұрын
A
@earwigg
@earwigg 11 ай бұрын
some gentle feedback, but when you say things in your script "but why did the person do the thing?" it is very distracting and could just be cut out of your script.
@Rubijoyal
@Rubijoyal 11 ай бұрын
This is so fucking sad. And what is with the writing of one bad action and BOOM! you are on the Dark Side. This is the failure of the Jedi hands down. No wonder why Obi Wan had a soft spot for her. This rigidity of who the Council trained and why they had such a strict age limit is part of why she was on the Dark Side to begin with. Then again, she would have likely have been killed during Order 66. If not, and she did get into the Order, she would likely have had a lot in common with Anakin, and those two would have been a powerful team along with Obi Wan
@tHeWasTeDYouTh
@tHeWasTeDYouTh 7 ай бұрын
When you realize that Dooku liked young damaged force sensitive women.
@Andrew01345
@Andrew01345 11 ай бұрын
L ventress
@PhoenixDawnX77
@PhoenixDawnX77 11 ай бұрын
You're gonna despise who tries to kill you. I think Jedi was too forgiving with this, and never got credit because they were too nice and their once criminals kept committing crimes (see Hando for starters).
@PhoenixDawnX77
@PhoenixDawnX77 11 ай бұрын
Great character Ventress was. I wish she got a chance to work with Ashoka, but had to make her attack Dooku. She should have survived Clone Wars and be a bounty hunter force user guiding Ashoka.
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