Why the Mountain Peak Umate on Coruscant is Actually Important to The Mandalorian

[@mitwhitgaming7722]

I always find it funny reading the opening of Heir to the Empire, where Luke drinks hot chocolate while looking at Coruscant's mountain ranges in the distance.

[@Maphisto86]

Yeah the lore about Coruscant hadn't been fully fleshed out yet when Timothy Zahn wrote his famous Thrawn trilogy. Oddly enough I believe Ralph McQuarrie did some concept artwork that depicted this park (something resembling it) for a art book on the worlds of the Star Wars universe before the prequels.

[@DKhuluq]

In the Jedi Academy trilogy Han takes Kyp Dutton skiing in the Manarai Mountains of Coruscant.

[@StarRider587]

God when I first read Heir to the Empire when I was little, that mention of hot chocolate threw my immersion off big time for a few moments lol. "Hot chocolate? In Star Wars??? What???"

[@cm275]

I believe it was in one the Black Fleet Crisis books, Luke explores Vader’s retreats which which was a beach or something on Coruscant. I also recall Leia meeting with another Senator in his sprawling gardens, but I suppose that could be on a rooftop. It’s been a long time since I read those books but I believe the author did some of that because he actively disliked the idea of a city planet.

[@Tennisgek07]

​@@cm275 wait, vader on a beach? That is NOT accurate

[@notmephisto1375]

I was rewatching Clone Wars when I saw this same park in one of the early Mandalore episodes and after the last episode of Mandalorian I had more context of what it actually was. I couldn't believe it had been there the whole time.

[@darkenkil4416]

​@@WyldStallion-bs9oo yes it is whether you like it or not. Come up with one criticism that doesn't also apply to the beloved original trilogy. Bet you can't.

[@dracolee_072]

@@darkenkil4416 had terrible writing “somehow palpating came back” it was a mess, the special effects and cinematography was amazing, class, they outdone themselves, but you delude yourself if you say there’s no criticisms with the sequels, the writing and story as a whole was terrible, rushed and a shameless cash grab.

[@darkenkil4416]

@@dracolee_072 you could argue as much for any of these films. That's an opinion you hold that I do not share so you're gonna have to come up with something more solid than that.

[@dracolee_072]

@@darkenkil4416 it’s an opinion it’s a fact, they didn’t know they were going to bring back palpatine until the last movie, if that’s not rushed writing I don’t know what is.

[@dr.boring7022]

​​@@dracolee_072 They also didn't know that Luke and Leia were going to be siblings, despite kissing in ESB. If that was planned writing, then sweet home Alabama! But yeah I do agree, the writing in the Sequels is worse, though not to say the Originals didn't have their faults.

[@MrHereWeGoYo]

Not "filler" at all to me. I welcome the change. Also, anytime I get to see more of Coruscant (not just the skyline) I'm all for it.

[@brianpinkey676]

A filler episode is one that doesn't follow the main story or characters. So yea it is a good filler episode.

[@gavinsmith9871]

I find the fact that touching the mountain was the point of going to it back in the High Republic, contrasted with it not being allowed in The Mandalorian, very telling.

[@HumbleAshe]

I really appreciate Umate by itself even outside of the context of the Mandalorian. Its appearance is pretty symbolic of the hyper industrialization and urbanization that has turned Coruscant into a planet of cities and steel that has basically overtaken the former nature that existed in the past.

[@STARKILLER15100]

An insight to what our planet would turn into if we discover space travel and discover new planets.

[@sootierpluto]

@@STARKILLER15100 Like in James Cameron's Avatar

[@kingssman2]

This is like encountering the peak of Mt. Everest in a park where everything below it is under city and there's sky scrapers still stretching above. Coruscant is a planet where it's unknown where the planet's original ground is nowhere in sight. You know there must be native dirt somewhere, but it's so far down that it's questionable if it can every be found.

[@pkscolax9480]

Might as well try grazing the event horizon of a black hole

[@Erykthebat]

Are we sure it ISN'T Everest?

[@worldcomicsreview354]

That concept of Coruscant is kind of stupid, mind you. The foundations of the buildings are more buildings? And the foundations of those are even more buildings?

[@kingssman2]

@@worldcomicsreview354 lol, Yes. It's buildings, all the way down. The planets gravity probably increased from the added mass. Wookiepedia mentions the Jedi Temple is 5,000 years old. Some sources say the first city was built 100,000 years ago.

[@net343]

@@Erykthebatthe star wars galaxy is literally “a galaxy far far away” also there are 2 non canon comics involving earth, one involved it being originally part of the galaxy but relocated and in another one it was in the milky way but strangely had a hyperlane from the center of the star wars galaxy, the millennium falcon traveled to it but crashed somewhere in the US before america was discovered , only chewbacca survived and went on to be known as bigfoot (his species lives up to 500 years and he’s 190 in the last movie)

[@GuanoLad]

Coruscant means sparkling and glittering. When Luke says of Tatooine "if there's a bright centre to the Universe, you're on the planet it's farthest from" it was subsequently taken literally by creators, when they put a planet named Coruscant in the centre of the galaxy, and Tatooine on the Outer Rim.

[@DKhuluq]

It was originally conceived as a city planet by Lucas called Had Abaddon

[@jaggedtharn8977]

I got that book when it was new, I've been fascinated by Coruscant for a very long time as a result, so it was awesome to see it get some love in live action.

[@tylertriezenberg1399]

The middle part wasn't what I expected or maybe even wanted, but calling it filler just because you can't immediately connect the dots to the main arc doesn't mean there isn't a connection we don't specifically know yet

[@christianshields4164]

I think this episode works because the detour is about characters actually established in the show and not character from another show like in the Book of Boba, not to mention said character, Dr Pershing didn’t have a lot of screen time in the earlier seasons

[@Savagely-Average]

I find that so many of the people that cry "FILLER!" or knock on Andor for it's pacing and theme are a lot of the same ones who also cry about Tatooine showing up time and again, or how The Mandalorian seems like a live action video game with all of the side quests. Folks want a fleshed-out galaxy, but somehow want it done magically... somehow.

[@CountryLifestyle2023]

Loved it so far. Nothing Is filler content, it all connects. And so many connections/easter eggs to older star wars content, and it's done well. Couldn't be happier

[@QuinchGaming]

I personally loved the episode. I guess I'm a sucker for stories that show us what the smaller "cogs" are doing, their motivations, their failings or their attempts to be something more. Pershing was the classic example of a scientist so fascinated & caught in the hold of "the science of it" that he doesn't see the world or the impact of what he's doing & he's easy to corrupt because of his naivety. He's always wanted to be a scientist, that's all he wants to be and all he can think about. Clearly he was entrapped for other reasons, it wasn't to benefit the Republic for sure but this episode was far from boring or "filler".

[@bootney66]

I loved this episode and the time spent on Coruscant. It was a nice change of pace and will help to provide context later on.

[@murilogoulart4935]

🎶Ain't No Mountain High Enough 🎶

[@juliuslacano1037]

Totally agree with you concerning the "filler" thing. Just because we don't yet know the full significance of how this folds into the overall story does not make it "filler". I thought this was a great episode and it showed those difficult questions and actions that must be taken when a fascist, or at least authoritarian, government transitions to a democracy.

[@venomous-prime]

“its just a boulder” “it’s not a boulder it’s a rock”

[@henryhammond7393]

Oh the Mandalorians used to ride these babies for miles…

[@barragethree5047]

​@@henryhammond7393 And she's in great shape!

[@alphabulblax1649]

I'm puzzled that anyone could think this episode was filler. Just because it didn't focus on Din, Grogu, and Bo Katan doesn't mean it had nothing important to establish. That's like saying the Crosshair episodes in The Bad Batch are filler.

[@aaronmichael6792]

I’m failing to see how this DOESN’T affect the main plot.

[@feshpince7181]

@@Sam_T2000 Man, I cannot understand how there are people like you out there. Subtext exists. That episode was far more important than just to hint at Moff Gideon returning. We will see more of Dr. Pershing's story, I guarantee it.

[@asdgty100]

It's important because Ahmed Best almost crashes into it

[@camero220]

i know this is what you do, but DAMN, your analysis and, well, I know this is literally the name of the channel, but your ability to so clearly EXPLAIN so much Star Wars is incredible. We very much appreciate all the work that goes into these.

[@lifevest1]

Why are the "world building" and "meanwhile, not where our main characters are" episodes the coolest?

[@orinanime]

One of my favorite episodes of this season. It was awesome seeing the return of Ahmed Bests character.

[@nfinity1421]

Thank you once again for placing this in context. While I would have said, part filler, since I liked the first part and last part of the episode, the middle, longer part, felt filler only because it was obvious Pershin was going to meet a bad end, it was just a question of how and when, so I spent that time looking for those answers, missing the significance of the world building going on. I do remember being impressed by the mountain top, thinking back to Isaac Asimov's Foundation series and its Empire's capitol Trantor, how sad those granted amnesty were addressed as numbers instead of names, and impressed (while horrified) when a mind flayer was confirmed to exist after season one's comment that it was just wartime propaganda. Outside of this, it was interesting with the implications in the rest of the episode outside of this. That strike team was coming for Bo and it was only because she was off helping Din that she wasn't home when it was bombed. It was also interesting to see that this cult seems to be more moral than either the Jedi or the New Republic. I don't know Death Watch, so hearing you speak about it helps mitigate this impression. Neither the Clone Wars, nor Rebels appealed to me in the few episodes I watched to view the entire series, so your episodes like this that put everything into context are very much appreciated and I do apologize for sounding negative at times. Your channel enhances my Star Wars experience. Thank you, very much, for these videos.

[@NotPaulAvery]

Am I the only one who saw Umate and was like, "I remember that from LEGO Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga! There's a kyber brick up there!!"

[@SkullMan19]

I thought Umate was *from* Light of the Jedi, I totally never noticed the appearances in the Clone Wars!

[@TooDarnEasy]

was juust about to comment the same.

[@Jansenbaker]

I haven't seen the episode with Satine on Coruscant in so long I had no idea Umate and the weird onion buildings had officially appeared in Star Wars prior to the release of the High Republic books. As far as I knew, the mountain thing in The Light of the Jedi was an invention of that story. I should really do that rewatch of the show I keep meaning to do. Interesting that the thing I thought they were bringing in from HR was really being brought from CW. Filoni at it again, I think.

[@miisgi9641]

I really liked the episode as a whole. I want more stories about the insurgencies and counter-insurgencies that must still be constantly happening in the city as the opulent class vies for power and shield themselves for the sigma of the old empire.

[@cpiff100]

Great breakdown

[@MinusTylerWorld]

I really liked how we saw Umate again during the chase sequence in Chapter 20 😏

[@redsworkshop]

I think you're missing the point of Pershing's story. The New Republic is shown to be just like the Empire. They repress him and others and treat them as numbers, just like the Empire did, they use a mind flayer, just like the Empire did. I think he genuinely wanted to do good work for the New Republic but even the office job they had him doing was destroying valuable knowledge that could have been used for good. Just like Pershing. In my opinion he was completely justified in rebelling, just like the people we cheered for rebelling against the Empire. And he didn't even want to rebel, he was going to just keep doing what he was told until Kaine manipulated him so that she could fry his brain. I don't see it as a case of, 'Well anyone will return to old ways with the right push.' I do think he was a good person who kept being manipulated, first by the Empire, then by Kaine. As someone who gets taken advantage of for their kindness regularly, I relate with the poor guy.

[@glennbrown2704]

I liked the part with Dr. Pershing. It would have been nice if they could have layered it in the first 3 episodes. Episode 1 of of season 3 seemed to remind us of the storylines were were going to get. Maybe 5 minutes with Dr. Pershing in that episode would have been great.

[@Matt-bg5wg]

Ok so who had “Jar Jar saves Grogu” on their bingo card?

[@armok409]

I don't think this was a filler episode either (same for pretty much all of the bad batch episodes that you've noted have been labeled as such by some), I can get how for some it can be a bit jarring or even frustrating that this episode was stepping away from the main characters to focus on a seemingly separate story, but this episode honestly felt like it was giving us important information/context for what's to come as well as helping build up to whatever big event the Mando slice of star wars has in store for us. Plus it was nice to catch up with the (maybe, possibly) good doctor and see more of Coruscant not to mention start diving more into the new republic on-screen at all even.

[@BretMuckdogs]

Thank you for this video.

[@thorakvideos2495]

I thought it was the best episode of the season so far.

[@ljc5277]

Ralph McQuarrie, forever Star Wars GOAT

[@depreseo]

Star wars fans: FILLER! Anime/manga fans: you keep on using that world. I do not think it means what you think it means. That asside. I think ume can represent a lot of things - to some it's civilisation conquering the natural world (look at history with the Romans conquering and controlling nature via aqueducts and having beast games in their apitheatred), but that can also be turned on its head with une representing the constant presence of the natural world and however much you cover it, belittle it or ignore it it's still there. For this episode it represents (to me) the new republic has conquered the empire, so the empire is now a small, insignificant hillock that is literally used to fill theatres like a freak show with the ted-talk esq scene at the beginning of the episode. Yes, with just like how only the small pack of ume is still visible the empire is still there. Moff Gidion was able to run his own small empire with a light cruiser in the outer rim because (like the mountain peak) the new republic ignored the outer rim, or thiught he threat insignificant because in the core worlds defended by the new republic fleet the threat is small, but in the iuter rim with little defences it was enough the turn systems. Likewise one small imperial agent in the heart of the amniaty programme was able to turn an individual who wanted to use clone techbology to better the galaxy (cloning new organs/modifying organs for the better) into a brain dead patsy because he a) knew too much, but also b) was arguing that the new republic shouldn't just be squandering tech just because it's imperial - it still works. One agent did that. Not an army, not a fleet. I also like to think of ume as an iceberg style analogy - at some point the multiple leveks if courasant will fall, and as those levels fall ume will seem like it's growing. But it's not growing. It's just there. Always has been. Amways will be - like the curruption forever at the heart kf the Republic.

[@yamilfigueroa3099]

I love this episode.

[@joshfactor1]

i mean it wasn't my favorite episode of all time but i did think it was at least somewhat interesting to see the inner workings of the nr

[@FATE522]

The Mandalorian season 3 is an understandable struggle for the audience who wanted a simple story opposed to a larger story. It's easier to watch a Mandalorian and baby Yoda doing side missions that help them grow as characters and grow closer to each other more than a story about a Mandalorian that is grappling with the weight of leadership calling to him, while Grogu will deal with the repercussions of not becoming a Jedi and that the galaxy has a looming threat to deal with before its too late.

[@elementzero3379]

We are members of "the audience", and that's not what my friends and I wanted. Grogu leaving with Luke was an awesome end to a very cool arc. We hoped to see Din Djarin's story continue from there. Instead, we have some great threads related to the Mandalorians, to Gideon, and hints of Thrawn that are weighed down and diluted by the terrible Grogu-related stuff. I am puzzled as to why Grogu was immediately thrust back into the story after such a fine exit. The realist in me says it's because Grogu is cute and sells merchandise. That's not a good reason to involve a character in a story.

[@LordVader5738]

For a little bit I thought Pershing would become Wernher von Braun for the New Republic. An ex-adversary, now turned ally, helping the New Republic reach incredible potential. Like you described Pershing not really a good guy in a bad situation, von Braun basically allowed enslaved Jews to build his rockets that were use to bomb London. Later on, von Braun also took USA to the moon with his Saturn V rocket. Would have been interesting to see Pershing maybe start making a clone army for the New Republic, and see the First Order sabotage it. Would have been even better if the "secret" clone army project was on Centax-2, like it was in Legends.

[@LordDagovere]

Umate imagine it's more important than we thought. 😅

[@weldonwin]

Considering that long ago, Corsuscant was the original homeworld to the Mandolarians ancestors, the mountain was probably an important site to them

[@JayStephens8]

So awesome that they actually showed this I hope we can eventually see coruscant before it was built up

[@PsychoStreak]

Coruscant is quite the interesting place. I could see myself reading a book or maybe a comic about adventurers that set out on a quest to get to the planet's actual surface. The deeper they go the more the strata of it's growth over the millenia like sedimentary rock. Lots of secrets and things lost in time to uncover and then when they get to the surface??

[@SteveVi0lence]

With all the mods people had in boba Fett and fennec shand having her whole torso be replaced, Pershing's whole excuse for wanting to help people doesn't make sense. Yes wanting to save his mother is important and significant, remember the saying "the road to hell is paved with good intentions"

[@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive]

The Star Wars TV shows have a lot of scenes and episodes I consider filler. Yet it boggles my mind that viewers called this episode filler. The Coruscant segment was set up for important storylines and pure world building, and was full of detail and deep lore confirmation for the top fans. _The Convert_ was a bottle episode with great thematic messages and a dark twist ending that reminded me of the Twilight Zone or Outer Limits.

[@StuartLugsden]

Alex, Mollie, I have a video idea for you. Since its almost 20 years old I would love to see you cover the 2002 clone wars microseries.

[@ChillinWithTheCapuchins]

This is my favorite episode so far this season!

[@medievalpeanut4269]

People complaining about "fillers" or the couple of episodes in Book of Boba with Mando don't understand the story, probably haven't watched the clone wars or rebels where more Mandalorian story has more to offer and generally aren't connecting the dots. At least it's obvious to me where they seem to be going with all this. Boba wants to run Tatooine for obvious reasons they showed in that series and because he wants to build something that is more honor bound than the criminals who have run Tatooine before. Boba proved this to Mando when he helped him and at the end Mando returned the favor coming to Boba aid (this is the way). Bo Katan is also representative of this, and they talk about the other worlds that are/were run by Mandalorians but she is channeling her sister to try and reunite the Mandalorians and change from just always fighting into something more. Everyone keeps shading the Armorer and maybe she will turn on them but I'm reading it more as she is leading Mando to find his purpose, he's building allies and he found the waters and... so this sets up the return of a Mandalore to unite the factions and hopefully in a new way. Mando + Grogu = Tarre Vizsla. In fact after the last episode, I wouldn't be surprised if the research Dr. Penn did doesn't get injected into Mando making him at least force sensitive. I think that they will also ride the Mythosaur and change from fighting each other to uniting by the end of this season or next. This would be a huge advantage to the new Republic, the Frist Order/Empire want Mandalorians fighting each other which removes them from the playing field. Also, I think we'll see that this is how they link Ashoka, Mando, Admiral Thrawn, Sabine and Ezra.

[@ashleygris]

When Chancellor Soh visited the monument I forgot it was in Clone Wars and I visualized a lovely botanical garden with a rock popping out the ground. Was a little disappointed haha

[@FCT70]

I thought the episode was brilliant, and I would love a New Republic series based on it.

[@Spitfire_Cowboy]

I have a funny feeling that we are watching a version of the Dark Empire series.

[@LordNinja109]

Imagine Starship writing a song about Coruscant. "We built this city! We built this city on Rock....!"

[@Oangulo6952]

I agree with what you said about "Fillers". When my Son introduced me to NARUTO, he told me about a "Filler list", so I could "avoid" those episodes. Which, I never understood, because there are a lot of hidden gems and character development that takes place in them. This episode of Mando is a great example of this. I loved the episode. And Elia Kane is a B word....🤬...😂...😜

[@omarbaba9892]

I have a feeling they chiselled around most of the mountain except the peak lol

[@thememester1190]

"It's not just a boulder.. it's a rock!"

[@paulmasterwindowclea]

Very well explained. I thank you

[@AbsolXGuardian]

I think the entire sequence on monument plaza also shows how happy the New Republic is to simply return to the Republic before it fell instead of make something better. They went back to looking exactly like the prequels, adding back the color and lights missing from Andor, so quick to get away from the toils of the siege. But it's probably a thin layer and Coruscant is weaker than it's been in a long time, with infrastructure in the mid levels not similarly repaired.

[@LankyLegs101]

I think by filler people just mean the episode doesn't directly address the main plot of that show. This did, but only really at the beginning and end, not for the main bulk. It's the same for the Mando episode of Boba Fett - they addressed the wider Mandoverse stuff, but not the main plot of the Book of Boba Fett. That doesn't necessarily mean it's bad or good - some excellent episodes of shows are filler if you use that definition.

[@StuartLugsden]

This. Its clearly the script for Rangers of the New Republic tacked onto The Mandalorian.

[@IsaacKuo]

Well okay, buuuuuut ... Dr. Pershing, his cloning experiments, and Moff Gideon are deeply connected to the main plot of the show. Moff Gideon is the main antagonist, and if he's still around he's still after Grogu. Obviously Dr. Pershing's experiments concentrated on cloning with raw material from Grogu. Dr. Pershing has featured heavily in Grogu's story from the start. I don't think you can make a case that the story around Dr. Pershing and Moff Gideon's comms officer doesn't directly address the main plot of the show.

[@LankyLegs101]

@@StuartLugsden I think they have to at some point if they're hoping that the Mandoverse will bridge the gap between episodes 6 and 7. They have to explain how the First Order can be such an obvious, enormous threat, but not enough for the New Republic to address it.

[@StuartLugsden]

@@LankyLegs101 It should have been its own thing. It shouldn't have been cancelled and tacked onto Mandos story. This show would have done so much.

[@Lr.Laecro.Lirus3445]

​@@StuartLugsden I mean, why all know what happened with the Cara Dune-actress.

[@SemiStableUniverse]

Wonder how they deal with seismic activity? Mountains move significantly on the order of meters over hundreds of years.

[@ilnikogo7034]

Episode 3 was great. I like this kind of style. Every show should take a look at Andor

[@kelborn40k84]

I had a thought about the episode inspired by a pal of mine. What if the imperial double agents work for Thrawn and the entire reassignment is a facade to gather loyal imperial forces on Coruscant undercover. There are several decommissioned Star Destroyers including equipment on the surface, which are also easily accessible. Furthemore, they can act directly if someone becomes a loose end. What if they gather to either start a terror campaign a la Ysanne Isard or we even get the Lusankya in canon, rising and manned by said imperial "good guys" to bombard Coruscant at point blank range, devastating it and Thrawn taking it as flagship. That's why the Republic decides to move the Senate around from world to world instead of staying on Coruscant, trying to avoid such a massacre again. In the end, the little peak has become a true mountain again with the city landscape around it blown to scrap. It would further set up the decisions made by the sequels and add galactic stakes to the show. Won't happen though but just imagine...

[@tmontes1974]

I loved it

[@dragonslyer74]

There was also a scene in the Han Solo omnibus. I think it was the second book that takes place in that plaza

[@JustDevon1]

I may not have liked the episode, but I definitely appreciated the themes around Umate peak

[@CloneScavengerVulpin8389]

May the force be with you.

[@hirohitodrip3008]

It also appears in S2 E14 :Duchess of mandalorw at 14:20

[@pt2k645]

Star Wars is all about dramatic irony and recontextualization. Any new series’s place on the timeline is essentially another character in the show.

[@johnthewatermen]

I think there’s a significance that it was shown twice this season. Reeks of foreboding.

[@RuffledOnTime]

"filler" as a word is so abused to the point that I disregard anything that comes after it in a comment.

[@Svensk7119]

What really bugs me is no one pronounces Coruscant the way they did in the books. Not everyone is going to pronounce it the same.

[@JamesErath]

Re: Filler I think a lot of people expect shows nowadays to just be long-form movies. Whenever there's an episode that doesn't advance the main plotline, people deride the episode as 'filler'. But really, these are TV shows. Sure, we want the plot to go places, but episodic storytelling doesn't have to stay tied to one plot. It's OK to have episodes irrelevant to the main plot of the show; that's just TV. People may not be used to it anymore, but there was a time that episodes of a show barely related to each other at all, except for setting and characters.

[@youvebeenmungaid1470]

not filler it was good kind of reminded me of Black mirror

[@urath11]

I agree. So cool to see the mountain in live action,I just reread light of the Jedi

[@EightThreeEight]

I was slightly surprised to learn that it's not pronounced "Ooh-mah-tay".

[@michaelconnell1010]

In which Star Wars begins its Age of Apostasy phase ;)

[@timothyhenegar7484]

To me the mountain represented something more. When the Taung fought their last stand on Courscant. There they faced the Battalions of Zhell on top of a volcano. When the Zhell approached, the Taung used the smoke and ploom of the volcano to ambush them one last time before their departure from the world. It was this conflict that coined the Mand'oa term: "Dha Werda Verda" Rage of the Shadow Warriors Any true Vode knows this tale. This is the way, Vode An.

[@hellotherecreations3118]

Yes, that's exactly what I was thinking. Imagine the Taung standing there and looking down at their enemy. Amazing.

[@timothyhenegar7484]

​@@hellotherecreations3118 I'm not so sure if this is the exact peak or mountain. Or if it is canon anymore, but the fact as they say, "It is there." Gets the mind and imagination stirring regarding both Mand'oa fans of the Mandalorian culture, and SW Legends lore fathoming and contemplating. I'm not happy with how they portrayed both the Professor, and the New Republic. But to see this tib bit in the episode was eye candy and an exciting moment to see in the episode.

[@hellotherecreations3118]

@@timothyhenegar7484 I agree with you on the professor and the New Republic, and I wasn't saying that this is the same mountain. It was still a spectacular treat that means different things to everyone. I never thought I'd see the day when we'd actually SEE some of Coruscant's surface, and therefore, the ancestral home of Mandalorians.

[@timothyhenegar7484]

@@hellotherecreations3118 Oh, totally true. Totally true. I never thought you said it was the same mountain, just the parallels of the scene to the lore with the Mandalorians.

[@saemoursaeless6242]

actually if someone says filler it means the episode can be summed up in an "and" sentence. Bo Katan joined the covert and the doctor got executed/lobotomized. You can add depth to your characters by progressing the plot, they didn't, they showed a full minute of talking about a mountain top for a "please dont touch the art" joke

[@justinjeffries1554]

Fit was so nice seeing that cause I was always confused. Is it a real park? Was it just a rock? Etc now we know

[@magus104]

Me thinking that was a model of the mountain instead of the planet has been built on so much that nope... its the legit top of the tallest mountain? crazy

[@therobertdilley]

I strongly agree with the recent @RobotHead review regarding the disappointment of seeing the New Republic acting as horribly as the Empire in this episode only in a more inept, unthinking way. I'm happy to see the developments in the show but wish they would get back to the level of story telling that was once considered basic. ie: show, don't tell.

[@Lr.Laecro.Lirus3445]

Robot Head is a god awful content-creator.

[@tmozzz]

Call me crazy but I feel like this ties into palpatine existing in the newest Star Wars movie . This episode added a lot of context to the galactic story as a whole

[@Jedi_With_Aesthetic]

Maybe in jedi survivor we will get to see the bottom of the mountain wonder how deep under the highest level we are going to be able to explore in that game that would be insane

[@fiktivhistoriker345]

This episode really surprised me. I thought Dr Pershing would be important for the plans of the new order and Palpatine, but now it seems that he is kinda dead or at least his memory wiped out. I wonder how they will carry this storyline out and how it will affect the story of Mando and Grogu. I'm confident that the authors have something in mind. I have just one question now. If the whole planet is covered with steel and concrete, where comes the air to breathe from?

[@bluesquadron8667]

Whats inside the cones at monument plaza

[@geneva214]

Im gonna guess that the Original Mandalorians will be canonized and have corusant as their homeworld like Legends

[@Wayward-Son]

I didn't hate the perching story in the last episode. I thought it was somewhat interesting to see Coruscant and the New Republic. My only complaint is that it went on for too long. I wish we had spent more time on Mandalore

[@alimtimm7355]

Inside the Jedi temple there is a mountain, and monument plaza has three towers. Plz don’t tell me the rebels demolished it, we all love it

[@Rose_Butterfly98]

I think people mistake filler and lore building, if it tells you more about the background and adds some value, it is not filler. Filler has to be almost completely irrelevant to the future of the story. Like episode 8. Some cool things here and there but really none of it accomplishes anything other than to give a reason why Luke dies and why most of the resistance is gone. They could've put the Holdo manoeuvre in at the start and made a proper movie.

[@flintheadofTN]

Sometimes a mountain is just a mountain, and the meaning we give it is more thought than the original writer put into it. That being said, I think Umate in this episode, if it has a deeper meaning, probably represents the foundations of the Empire poking through into the New Republic. Yeah, the name has changed, there's some new faces running the place, but ultimately the back bone of the Empire's technology, governmental infrastructure, and society is still there. In the same way, the city of Coruscant, as different as it may appear from the way the planet used to look, still rests on the bedrock of the planet, and the planet's topography still plays a part in the design of the city no matter how subtle that part my appear.

[@jasontestin9654]

so how tall this is the mountain and how can everyone breathe at that high elevation?

[@kyleroussel]

People do me a favor when they say the word "filler" to describe an episode of Mando/Bad Batch/Kenobi/etc. I know from that point forward, I can ignore anything else they say and move on to someone who might have something of value to add to the discussion.

[@benjaminroe311ify]

YES!

[@canadianbakin1304]

a lot of people think Bo will go back to her old ways to try and rule Mandalore again i dont think she will though admittadly it will be a struggle within herself to not become her old self and allow the one who carries the dark saber to rule legitimately she more than likely feels responsible for the fall of Mandalor in the first place joining death watch and fighting the civil war if none of that had happened maybe her home world wouldn't of been glassed so easily as they wouldn't of had clones on the planet during order 66

[@DarthRelkew]

Wait, people didn’t like Episode 19? I thought is was cool that we saw the Empire never go away and how creepy the New Republic punishes Imperial Officers

[@BrianHartman]

I think there are really two separate questions: Did the writers *intend* for the episode to be filler, and did it *feel* like filler? I don't think they *meant* it to be filler. I think they probably have enough material written that they didn't just stick that in to kill time. And it was too much of the episode to just be filler. It seems to me that Elia Kane is being set up to be a major antagonist of the season. That's fine, but they should've introduced her in a way that didn't bring the actual story to a crawl.

[@tylerhaunted]

Great, we're gonna get a Star Wars standalone film about a big rock 😂

[@danielmcelroy4505]

It's funny, I thought it was moreso connecting to hoe Mandalore is actually, biologically, not cursed and has a sense of continuity in spite of a trauma (like the Dr.). Regardless I kinda though this arc would make more sense in a different show (maybe Asoka if she's hunting Thrawn and the remnant/NR clashing is central bc this season is set up to be all about Mandalore and this episode didn't convince me the b plot included the struggles of planets or governments) or at least a different episode where the connection between Mandalore's independence and the NR's problems is more relevant.

[@christinao9061]

Are we gonna get a Satine mention in Mandalorian????

[@auroraglacialis]

Something I just realized - why does the Doctor wear glasses? Dont they have at least affordable eye lasering or therelike in the galaxy?