Why The New Honda CB750 Hornet Will Be The Best Middleweight Naked!

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[@brucerossonthetube]

The CB650R just became an instant classic. The new bike may be better in most measurable ways, but looks- wise, the 650 is stunning and the 750 looks very dated already.

[@gordjy]

yes, honda nailed it with the neo sport cafe style, although i have a cb1000r BE and not the 650.

[@PaydayGabeBCNV]

Yes,, the Iconic 4 into 1 sexy exhaust is the holy grail 😍👍.

[@jasper_of_puppets]

Indeed. BIG FAIL for them to go with the ugly, bug-faced, 2009-era headlight. By contrast, round headlights are timeless and will never go out of style. That's why the original Hornets (599 and 919 here in the USA) still look so good to this day.

[@233kosta]

Most, but not all. I (and many others I'm sure) enjoy the feel and responce of a cable throttle way more than its electronic counterpart (present on any bike with "rider modes"). I'd be willing to give up other features (like the modes, auto blip, etc) to retain it. Same goes for that ridiculous monstrosity they call a gauge cluster. I already have a big screen. Several, actually. Don't need one on the bike. It'll make all the professional opinion-havers very happy I'm sure, but to me it detracts from the experience.

[@andrasolivier7185]

Absolutely! The 650 has that solid and robust quality look. The 750 looks like some shit made of cheap plastic. I know that as a rider I could enjoy that perfect Honda everything (I find that perfectly suitable for me) but still the quality machine SHOULD have a quality look too. It IS a part of that rider feeling since we, human beings, have a memory...

[@FourIntoOne]

The 4 cylinder mill and the neo retro looks are what make the CB650 great and are its usp. This 750 (specs notwithstanding) is just a bit Meh. I actually think it looks a bit cheap.

[@ThermicLight]

Look I'm pretty partial to the I4 but honestly I think people are needlessly being prejudice, despite it's excellent stats, just because it's a P2. Like it or not unless you're buying a 1000cc you'll sparsely find an I4.

[@gsxraiders]

This bike is actually for me. A twin that's bigger than an MT07, but cheaper and more reliable than 890 Duke R. The 2 cylinders are where it's at. I love my inline 4 but 2s are so much better for backroad. I will be buying this!

[@headhunter531]

It looks like a 300cc bike

[@Thunder_Bear_mg]

If Honda made this styled more like the z650rs and sold it at the same price or lower, it would crush z650rs sales big time and probably steal a few trident sales as well.

[@BlazinBlades]

They should throw in jail the person responsible for designing that poultry inspired headlight…🤣😝😉

[@MichaelJeffrey]

Unfortunately, my favourite thing lately is the round light retro look 😢

[@captainaverage721]

Me to. The main reasons I bought one was the 'neo cafe' looks and the peaky in-line four

[@leandroflaherty]

Yup. Large lcd screens, plastic bug aesthetics and a thousand nanny modes are a negative. Especially to a bike like the CB which has always been classic lines.

[@jarielgt-r7850]

Round headlight is always timeless...

[@Prosecute-fauci]

Me too. I bought a 2019 Kawasaki W800 last month with 700 miles on it.

[@user-tm9ho3bm4v]

The pointy headlights look like crap

[@patbateman00]

When I first heard the announcement that Honda was making a 750 Hornet, I thought I might be tempted to trade up from the CB650r to get it. Looking at it now, I'm kinda relieved because there's absolutely no way I'm replacing my beautiful 4cyl CB650r for that thing.

[@kb34958]

Totally agree. I' m very disappointed

[@dinohuntr851]

I'm thinking the same thing. I'll happily keep my CB650r.

[@carlosandleon]

Tbh, it was known for a long time that it was gonna be a twin?

[@marinusk67]

great , they have made a ikea bike

[@nathanschlachter6612]

Everything they changed was the reason I bought my CB650R so it’s kinda disappointing

[@karlosh9286]

The new Hornet does look promising on performance spec and price, but I think I prefer the round headlights of the CB650R and Trident.

[@ws8080]

And the SV650X if you like the round headlight.

[@JosephActivate]

CB650R and Trident will still be my choice

[@BodybuildingSteve]

@@Fee.1 I dno? its a twisty/town bike and has more than enough power for that, I test rode one and thought it was amazing, so light you can just throw it into bends and sounds great too, 100% not a motorway machine though, even for small amounts

[@BodybuildingSteve]

@@Fee.1 in a vacuum? sorry i dont understand

[@BodybuildingSteve]

@@Fee.1 ohhh i see, I have rid quite a few nakeds I just said about the trident as its what the comment section was talking about

[@radu01]

Big mistake - the CB 4 piston engine made it unique in the class and to me is the absolute favourite (reason why I bought it brand new and enjoy it almost every day). Another reason is that the new Hornet is fugly compared to CB650R)

[@vigilant.]

Agree

[@Motoboo_Marine]

The price had it completing with 8-900cc bikes though. They wanted to compete with other 650s so they had to find a way to reduce the price.

[@neilfoster9517]

Totally agree the inline 4 made it unique

[@TheKayoO0]

@@Motoboo_Marine Well I agree I do not think it was meant to compete it was meant to be a step above.

[@bradp6639]

@@Motoboo_Marine was it though? The 650 is cheaper than the trident and £500 more than a mt07? Unless the current price is after some cuts

[@TK-_-421]

Wow. They managed to make it look exactly like a CB500F. Wish they kept the neo cafe style. I think it's going to be a bit boring compared to rivals but nice and competent in a typical Honda way that makes it overall nicer to own long term.

[@carlosandleon]

Isn't the round headlight version still around?

[@scobeno1911]

Yup. Thought that’s what it was when I seen the thumbnail. How disappointing/boring..

[@carlosandleon]

@@scobeno1911 Good news for us wanting cheap bike thougb

[@scobeno1911]

@@carlosandleon sure it’ll be a good ride, just thought it would look a bit better. I was considering the new hornet but not now.

[@hisride]

@@scobeno1911 exact same position as you. I was holding off on the MT-07 until I saw this. Jesus it looks nothing like the drawings or model revealed at EICMA. I think that so many people went at Honda for 'copying KTM' that they went more conservative. Such a shame. Still looking out for the new pstrom tho

[@moto-jeff]

Specs are good, especially for £7K, but typical Honda bland styling. Round headlight would have been better and would have also given a nod to the original Hornet.

[@im.js.17]

Why can't honda move away from the old design language? They did it with the 300, 650, and 1000, but kept the old language with the 500, and now kept it again for this. Based on what honda have said, I was really expecting something different and cool, not a cb500f with a bigger engine and a 5 inch TFT display. Sad. I thought honda would use this as an opportunity, but took two steps back with the look while taking a step forward with everything else. I was super excited but now I'm just looking at this as another bike to look past.

[@stubbingtonmarigold3032]

They didn’t just not “move away” from old design language- it is old parts on a modified frame.... the wheels/rotors , suspension, headlight, size , weight - it’s a new engine in a Cb500f chassis...... a downgrade from the cb650r

[@bikersquest]

I always thought the buzzy nature and sound of an inline 4 suited the whole hornet style so it's a little strange to me. I reckon it's super fun though, 90HP twin is the sweet spot for the street I reckon.

[@ThermicLight]

Hornets don't so much buzz than make a grunty helicopter sound. Which I suppose a P2 more closely resembles.

[@bikersquest]

@@ThermicLight Fair enough 😄

[@bobbingtonnoir5946]

My elderly neighbor nick named my Hornet 600 a "bumble bee" because of how the I4 engine sounds at idle.

[@verigone2677]

Yeah, the old hornets sounded more like Mosquitos...270 P-Twin is gonna give that Huey sound. Thankfully it isn't a straight P-Twin, that would have sounded like my neighbors new riding mower.

[@xxATR0CITY]

Just wish the styling was more inspiring. It looks like the cb500f and ktm had a baby

[@johnDukemaster]

The specs and price says YES! The looks says...something else...maybe it looks better in real life? Thank you mr Bob!

[@stubbingtonmarigold3032]

Dig deeper into the specs. It’s technically not the Cb500f chassis... but it is... the tires/rotors, the rear suspension, the weight, the size, the same forks, the same headlight... it’s more displacement, smaller gas tank, led lights, tft changes - that’s it. With that being said - I do like the cheesy red forks /black color way and it will be competitive at 8k usd... but maybe a little small

[@Stanley88845]

CB750 guts + CB650R styling would be the dream

[@dedyardana1224]

there is the Z650RS, but it use 180 degree twin, so it will sound like a ninja 250 but if I'm not mistaken team green charge quite a lot for the look

[@jacksonallan954]

The CB650R has far more in common with the Hornet lineage than this new 750. Every Hornet until now, whether 250, 600, or 900, has been an inline four. Most of them had round headlights and a UJM-inspired look. All were supposed to be sporty nakeds that could double up as commuter bikes. This CB750 looks fine, but slapping the "Hornet" label on it seems a bit arbitrary.

[@Logsi27]

Agreed! Trying to drum up excitement with that name and then unveil what is effectively a CB750F...

[@Oatmeal4Breakfast]

I'm not settling for anything less than inline 4. CB 650R is a proper proper bike with the modern retro looks.

[@ignaciobrenner1620]

lol. That´s one boring bike dude. Ride an mt 07 or and xsr 700, those are a different experience.

[@baronvonbangkok6255]

Agree. This Hornet is ugly AF and a twin. A downgrade.

[@Oatmeal4Breakfast]

@@ignaciobrenner1620 most people like that low to mid torque. Some like top end torque. But the supersport sound of inline 4 is so good. It screams. A perfect bike would be inline 4 sound at low to mid range torque like that of a v twin. But that's not possible. Most of these bikes bring their full potential on highways and not on regular commutes so inline 4 is awesome on highways. It pulls like a spaceship like in Interstellar travel.

[@ignaciobrenner1620]

@@Oatmeal4Breakfast mmm i really dont agree with the "pulling" you say. The perfect bikes are not 4 cylinder bikes. The best bikes are triples, that´s why no one is making 4 cylinder bikes. They are almost extint for a good reason.

[@Oatmeal4Breakfast]

@@ignaciobrenner1620 I didn't say 4 cyl bikes are perfect I said it's their sound that is perfect. And if with the early torque of a v twin for popping wheelies and quick accn, that would be a perfect all rounder bike. But all of that doesn't matter if you're going on a weekend blast on highways or racetrack and not in day to day traffic commutes. You can always keep the engine on boil to extract the max power of 4 cyl. And in that situation only the sound of the engine matters and that's where inline 4 wins. And the smoothness vibe free that it brings is also an added bonus. The only thing 4 cyl are lacking is their low to mid range torque which is very essential for in and out traffic accn. without burning much fuel and drawing unnecessary attention when you're not really going fast. But still the accn is more than enough to go woosh* from stop or slow moving traffic, it's just that it's not as good as v twin bikes. But on highways 4 cyl is better than any twin or 3 cyl coz of the top end performance. Thumpers Twin and 3 cyl will run out of max torque much earlier than 4 cyl when you're going really really fast. There's a reason for almost all leader bikes having 4 cyl. And no; 4 cyl are not going away. They're just going away in the middleweight segment. 1000 cc is dominated by 4 cyl.

[@gokulkrishm51]

Here's an idea, why not introduce a different varient like a "CB750 Classic" or "CB750 retro" with obviously a classic design? Starting from a good old round headlight :)

[@gsm_liv8980]

Hopefully they make a "mini Hawk 11" version of the same engine. It'd be one great-looking affordable middleweight cafe racer that somewhat competes with the SV650X and Scrambler 800 cafe racer (Suzuki please don't discontinue the SV-650 line)

[@gokulkrishm51]

@@gsm_liv8980 You know what, that's a great idea! I really hope someone at Honda comes up with this idea. SV seems like a great bike. Eager to see what Suzuki have been developing though.

[@gsm_liv8980]

Hopefully Suzuki won't give us the "mini GSX S1000" look that the leaked bike had. Would be so sad to see the more old-school bike go just to be replaced by that ugly "sporty naked" thing.

[@gokulkrishm51]

@@gsm_liv8980 It would be such a disappointment. I don't like how the GSX S1000 looks :(

[@mathias6423]

If you compare it against the bikes it should be compared to, mt-07, z650 and so on it seems to be a pretty impressive bike.

[@MarkKoolen]

I’m so glad with my 2021 cb650r because of the esthetics. Bikes are passion for me, that’s why things like a round headlight is more important for me than thinks like ride modes and so.

[@rantANDrave1987]

Wish they kept the cb650 headlight! Everything else seems fantastic. I’m wondering how close this matches Suzukis new P2

[@LunringNassar]

Love that they have made a new middleweight, but it kinda looks like it was made before the neo-retro's, like 2012-2014 vibe design, especially the front. As a honda fan, I'd buy it, since it uses a 270 degree crank, so it sounds like an MT07, which is amazing, and looks much better in terms of quality and performance, I'd bet this bike will be a hit.

[@rayletaxi]

Finally a budget focused middleweight with some better tech, should be interesting to see what other companies do to refresh their bikes to compete

[@Motoboo_Marine]

If they kept the round headlight it would look quite a bit better

[@JohnSmith-ef8nr]

If I was in the market for a new middleweight I'd get this over the MT07, the headlight isn't great but I still prefer it over the new mt 07 headlight.

[@nielsreijerse9285]

I am personally very tempted to get this bike. Just the whole package with a banging 2 cylinder with 270 degree crank, high torque figures and all the tech fitted too sounds like such a blast to ride. I mostly enjoy riding twisties where I stay kinda within speed limits so a top of 240 is not that interesting for me. I prefer torque and the tech sounds fun. A quickshifter, driving modes and a big 5 inch TFT dash. I wonder if this bike would be able to display sat nav too making my gorilla mount obsolete. Anyway, seems like a joy to ride and can't wait to take a test ride on it. Might be swapping from a Honda CB600F (4 cyl) 2012

[@mrricks420]

If it's anything like my Africa Twin's TFT then yes it will!

[@unclemearl]

What about the street triple as I thought that was middleweight?

[@bas7a881]

Street triple all the way. I was hoping that Hinds would’ve added some basic things to the hornet like cruise control and heated grips to out play the street triple, but they dropped the ball..again

[@unclemearl]

@@bas7a881 agreed 👍🏼 street also out performs stats I believe ?

[@bas7a881]

@@unclemearl easily. And let’s not forget, street triple has been in the market since 2006, they have been refined and perfected over the years. I am personally waiting for triumph to just add cruise control and heated grips to the street triple before buying one.

[@unclemearl]

@@bas7a881 the heated grips are an extra I think £250. I have the Street Rs so all the extras bar heated grips. Unsure how cruise would go on motorways as mine loves to scream so would be fun lol 😆

[@bas7a881]

@@unclemearl oh that’s good to know! Heated grips oem are critical. As far as cruise control, I mean they put it on the speed triple - so why the hell mot offer it as an option on the street triple lol!

[@PrimoStracciatella]

Big surprise that the new Hornet is a twin! Even the Hornet 250 was a four cylinder. Now Honda is building two 750cc parallel twins with a 270 degree crank, but very different engines. I don't understand all the complaints about the look, I like that it doesn't look too futuristic. And I don't have a problem with a "big CB500F" - that's what many riders asked for. Here it is.

[@dennisbuckley]

I’m no more an expert that the next tyre-kicker down the biker cafe but what we have here is not a bike launch but an engine launch, a middleweight plant that will see Honda through Euro 6, 7 and beyond, something that’s not going to set hearts fluttering but is versatile enough to drop into the much anticipated Trans Alp, add a DCT for a light tourer, a scrambler, who knows. The Hornet is marketing’s way of generating media interest and means that any future bike will be introduced as ‘having the engine from the Hornet’ and not ‘having the engine from the 750F’ to give added interest, kudos and credibility.

[@faisalfadzil9883]

Wish it had a round headlight

[@Gofr5]

I'm surprised Aprilia wasn't in this video. I still think the RS660/Tuono 660 are the bikes to beat in this segment. Though from what I see, the Hornet comes very close to matching the Aprilias. At a seemingly lower price point for almost as much power, almost as much tech, and Honda reliability, one can easily make the argument for it. Not bad, Honda, not bad. I'd probably shell out for the Tuono 660 still though.

[@thierryfaquet7405]

Totally different market. Those are entry level mid-weight bikes. When aprilia offer the absolute highest end of the category for double the price.

[@Max-oo9ez]

a 2009 shiver 750 has better specs than all of those bikes, it’s a pity it wasn’t even mentioned

[@billygraham2132]

Japan vs Italy. The stereotypes are real.

[@graeme6539]

They're nice bikes for sure, but they're £10k. These are £7-8k. I wouldn't call them direct competitors.

[@stanleyblazeraznik6047]

Aprilia quality is terrible and the dealer network is lacking.

[@tonymartinez7205]

I have a Honda CB500F ABS 2019 (got it new on July 2019) for commuting every day, excellent motorcycle, very easy to ride, nimble, very reliable, 75 MPG, low seat @ 30.9, easy to navigate thru heavy traffic. I needed more power so I got me the new Kawasaki Z650 ABS 2021, it is about the same size and weight of my CB500F but with much power, I paid $10.2K. I would have waited for this Honda CB750 Hornet, it seems like is the perfect motorcycle for me. The CB750 Hornet at that price and with all those features definitely will be my next motorcycle, I'll trade the CB500F and the Z650 for this new CB750, who cares about the looks? I don't. I tried the CB650R and CB1000R and these two bikes are super heavy, very high seat, not nimble at all and worse of all very expensive.

[@joshchapman3024]

So you’re taking away by far the best looking bike in the segment… for this.. great

[@PapaHolm]

Sure it is a descent bike , but very disappointing in looks , mainstream business as usual from Honda 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@MrPagro21]

It look just like a cb500f ☹

[@essexhognose1808]

It already looks dated

[@kennethsupas2115]

I agree with you,in the patent video they show that the Hornet has a agressive looks but in the end it looks like a CB500F with a CB650r tail light😪Honda dissapoint me again on their styling

[@un_belli_vable5506]

Very generic look

[@jordanmesa8820]

Why 2 cylinder, only not 4?

[@garyk8285]

I don't like the look of this bike... I prefer SV650X for styling, but SV650 for comfort I suppose. The Trident looks good too. You can fix the design on this bike by changing the front lights to something a bit more modern, and perhaps with an emblem shaped LED front headlight. But this current headlight looks quite dated already.

[@designIQ]

Hello, From a visual analysis of your video, in my humble opinion this model is no replacement for cb650r. Its rather a parts bin bike. It appears to be a mash-up between cycle parts and chassis of the 2022 cb500f, instrumentation of the 2022 cb1000r, and engine derived from maybe the nc750. I have owned both the 500f and 1000r platforms and am familiar with them. Observe for instance the tail section assy, rear footrest assy, front disk brakes, forks, and even the exhaust can to some extent - all closely resembling the cb500f. Even the rear tire is only 160 section not the 180 section common for mid weight street bikes. Only the fuel tank appears to be a new form. The cb650r is just a more high quality machine - more bike. Folks who were going to buy the cb500f may now get conflicted with this cb750 Hornet. Its just a beefed-up cb500f. Maybe even a spiritual successor to the earlier cb650f rather (minus 2 cylinders). Thank you and kind Regards!

[@adrianleeds3468]

Really appreciate the work you put into making these vids.

[@johntheaccountant5594]

The Honda CB650R and CBR650R are great motorbikes for those smooth 4 cylinder. 650cc is about the correct sized middle weight motorbike.

[@timparker9235]

it looks remarkably like my CB500F, I have to say - so maybe I will rename mine the baby hornet. I am thinking of upgrading the 500, so maybe I might be interested. Nice review though Bob

[@WL2K]

yUP looks like mine too lol

[@timparker9235]

@@WL2K funny that! 😀

[@jerhughes500]

Why the bug eye headlights? I’d go for the CBR.

[@DonGregers]

Got the 2021 CB650R, its nimble and a perfect for me, and i dont get he hole "5 -10 kilo lighter bigg fuss". Also its look nice, i dont really like the new Hornet look.

[@ThermicLight]

The difference in weight is near what you can expect between a full fuel tank. Not something I'd so easily scoff at.

[@detricklowe624]

Wait, they are replacing the 650r, not adding another bike to their showrooms? In that case, I don’t understand it. The 650r looks wayyy better. The Hornet is uninspired. I own a GSX-S750. I know what an uninspired design is, my bike fits squarely within the “it works” styling of Suzuki. Hopefully it rides well at least.

[@detricklowe624]

@Michael Bigdongovic Would the cb650r still be around? That's the part I'm confused over. The old Hornet has been long gone right?

[@TK-_-421]

The 650 I4 just passes current euro 5 but isn't future proof. It's why others have retired their midsize fours in favor of twins. But yeah I wish they kept the neo cafe styling.

[@stubbingtonmarigold3032]

$$$ , the cb650r is too expensive.

[@DashRendar308]

Damn, I almost regret buying an SV650 now. Almost. 🙂 The CB750 seems to have its peak power at the highest RPM of all the twins, thats almost red line. I'm sure it will have no problems since its a Honda, but I dont like to be so close to red line, so I think at reasonable rpm it will not have that much more power over the Yamaha and Suzuki. I was kinda hoping it would be a long stroking engine, kinda like the Africa Twin, with lots of low end torque. Still I can not wait to test ride this baby. With a round Headlight it would look better though, but thats my taste.

[@mattdog1982]

No regrets mate. The sv looks better and that v twin is a legend of an engine

[@josephmichael4219]

The 160 rear wheel just kind of kills it for me lookswise. Like it isn't as imposing as the competition with those juicy 180 wheels

[@ricrosa5250]

I hope they come out with with an RS or XSR version like Kawasaki and Yamaha. I'm not a fan of the looks.

[@gokulkrishm51]

Exactly my thoughts. At least a round headlight would've been interesting.

[@drewmorg.]

I own a CB500F right now and this bike is basically the bigger up specc'd brother! 90hp is such a nice step up and will feel significantly punchier than any of the Trident/SV650/MT07 offerings. Honda did a very good thing here. They invented another weight class and all the other brands will need to play catch up. Twins are where it's AT for the street!!!!

[@chrishart8548]

I think it's all planned how all the bikes never quite compete on a level playing field.

[@drewmorg.]

@@chrishart8548 Yep it's smart. Creating an identical product makes for a much sharper head to head competition. Here they can upsell from the MT-07 crew on the basis of TFT screen alone. Or power. Or USD suspension. People will be willing to pay for it as long as it doesn't bump itself into a totally new price bracket (MT-09). This is a softer Duke 890 for commuting and playing. Nothing else on the market like it. We will have to wait for the specs for the new SV700 but I think that will compete more on the budget side. I hope Honda does Up/Down quick shifter on this bike and it will be perfect.

[@chrishart8548]

@@drewmorg. reminds me of when bmw came out with the f800 bikes (800cc twin) most of the competition was either 650 of 1000cc or an inline 4 and when bmw offered an 800 or a 1200 honda did the Africa twin 1000cc better than the 800 not as good as the 1200. The price weight and power fell right in the middle. So no real comparison. Triumph did all triples so not really comparable.

[@drewmorg.]

@@chrishart8548 It's kinda like inventing new flavors with hints of other flavors. They are all foundational, yet create something unique when mixed a certain way. And we all keep admiring and buying lol

[@chrishart8548]

@@drewmorg. I realised what looks shiny and new will look old like the one I bought after a few years. Every time the new what comes out the old one looks a little worse. I'm not falling for it anymore.

[@AllboroLCD]

Clearly a one-up answer to the Trident! A TCS/Rev limiter killing sport mode would have been nice on mine. Honda did just make things a wee bit harder for Triumph with this one though. I suppose the insect head light look is just something well have to accept as the future trend sadly, though the moniker is quite fitting in this case : D

[@killosish]

Hope Honda or the aftermarket is gonna offer a round headlight at some point. This is one of the main reason why I'd pick a Trident

[@sferreirac]

In Portugal, being over 749cc makes it taxable as a bigger bike than its competition, making it more then twice the money on the yearly road tax, this is the biggest catch for me.

[@rightwingsafetysquad9872]

Portugal is a small market. Honda will probably just tell you to buy an NC750 instead.

[@Shketri94]

Same in Serbia, was dissapointed to see 755cc engine... I think I'm gonna go with suzuki's new 700cc naked, especially if it looks as good as the ongoing gsx s1000 (and I believe it will), because this hornet looks very bleak to me

[@sferreirac]

@@rightwingsafetysquad9872 or loose the rest of it's customers for the MT07 and Trident. Seems more likely.

[@josemariashearmandemacedo5841]

@@Shketri94 some people say the suzuki might be an 800cc

[@sch3l3]

same thing in Croatia

[@HuntPost22]

As someone coming from a Ninja 400 looking for a faster mt07 but not quite an mt09, I think I just found my new bike. Lots of tech, sporty and should be a wheelie monster. Looks upright and comfortable for an evening couple our ride. Looks darn near perfect, and the price is unbelievable. You’ve done it again Honda 🔥🔥

[@metaomicron72]

Have you seen the new Suzuki 8s? Imo looks great. For sure my choice. I too was looking at MT07s but compared to the Suzuki, the MT feels like a dinosaur

[@HuntPost22]

@@metaomicron72 wow those look nice, maybe that’ll be my third bike someday. I am actually currently preapproved for my buddies ‘14 Fz09, he’s extremely meticulous and does all of his own maintenance and he’s sellin it for $6k

[@metaomicron72]

@@HuntPost22 thats awesome! Enjoy it :)

[@kenanpopovcevic1075]

They will build neo-retro version of that, there was also cb650f before R version

[@im.js.17]

The 650r was the replacement for the 650f, not an addition. Really doubt they will make a retro version

[@Sagacious_LJ]

Another great video Bob, but a small error in the fuel consumption/range table. The Suzuki SV650 "miles" figure is incorrect - I believe it should be about 219 miles. Take care and keep the great videos coming.

[@Logsi27]

I was just about to get on the blower to a friend and ask her how many miles she gets to a tank as I thought that was mental at over 300 miles to a tank!

[@GG-gk7jn]

Looks like a CB500…. Disappointing But I’m sure it’s a very good bike 👍🏻

[@Vlerion88]

looks like a design for indian market😬

[@MotoVania]

I was assuming they’d unveil at EICMA since it was so close, I wonder if we’ll get a similar pre-show announcement for the Transalp 🤞

[@quinnkirlew9892]

Good vid, would have been nice to see a price comparison at the end though. Not sure how prices are going to translate here in the US. That was always the killer for the CB650R, it cost more than a GSXS750 while being lower specced.

[@KapitanPisoar1]

Gsxs750 is head and shoulders above all of those bikes, especially when you consider the price. Mt07 is ridiculously overpriced in comparison…

[@juarezoliveira4129]

HONDA É HONDA. SUZUKI 👎🏿

[@ignaciobrenner1620]

amazing specs for the new hornet but the looks are so sad. It looks like any CF moto with low cc. I would choose the XSR 700 all the time.

Also my view... let's hope Honda launches something classic looking based on this. After all having a new platform from scratch will allow them just that... new models with as little as possible rework a la XSR or Z650 RS

[@ignaciobrenner1620]

@ i hope so, its really dumb to only take of the market the cb 650 r with the neo retro looks

[@olaskabo5346]

Quick to the party Motobob with the first proper look I’ve seen today. Looks like a typical Honda product, well made and classy but maybe a tad unadventurous styling wise. Looking forward to your review on it.

[@motobob]

Coming soon!

[@mirkosrndovic]

I'm in love with this new Hornet, thank you Honda.

[@mototigress]

When will it come to the US? I love it.

[@nickclarkuk]

I hope they do a variant with a round headlight but if not this is still top of my list. It is an MT07 made with higher quality parts .

[@dmaxcustom]

Where the Cb650R was a different bike from the crowd, the Hornet is another parallel twin 270 crank. Waiting for actual reviews but so far, kinda meh.

[@metalsadman]

Looks like the motor will be the one they will put in the transalp, pretty good numbers for a middleweight.

[@PaydayGabeBCNV]

$8031. USD is not extreme considering Honda quality and fit and finish 🙌. Gotta wait for year Two though. Work out any potential gremlins. Plus,, Gotta see what Suzuki does w/the P-Strom🙏.

[@AxeAfrika242]

Unfortunately it looks absolutely horrendous. The front end looks like a little 300cc bike from the 2000s... The CBR 650 on the other end looked gorgeous.

[@RRRRefuelRideRace]

Looks nice. I wonder what are the optionals that you can get with it. Maybe a center stand? That would be great. Otherwise a good looking bike.

[@KapitanPisoar1]

It’s ugly as F 😂

[@RRRRefuelRideRace]

@@KapitanPisoar1 As "F", you mean... :)

[@StreetfighterBrah]

Honda should try an Inline 3 motor for this bike. Best of both twin and inline 4 motors.

[@kevirle5451]

Hope we get to see this in Australia. We missed the NC 750 for the last few years. Honda don't give any clues

[@Dr._Nope]

Almost everything about this thing sounds awesome! The thing that bugs me (pun definitely intended) are the looks. The bike looks okay, but compare that to bikes like the Trident and the MT-07 and it doesn't hold up to me. Those bikes look badass!

[@hawkrider88]

Shoot, the SV650 still looks better.

[@clubstyleridahd4695]

I was hoping for it to look a little more like the KTM lol

[@morri03]

It kind of does just not quite as ugly

[@jepoyasseht10]

Now these Gives me more reason to keep my cb650r. Nice video.

[@roggpaladin4852]

i don´t know.. I traded in my CB500F for the CB650R this year because I didn´t like the looks of the CB500F. I think the 750 looks just like the 500. The tech his nice though but. I will wait for the engine to be put either into a touring or retro version.

[@expatbiker1907]

WOW! 7k is very competitive. I thought it would be some where between these middle weights and something like a GSXR750 or Ducati monster. Cant wait to see the adventure bike from this platform

[@cjjorge6636]

i have a 2004 cb600f and i love this bike im going to add the new one to my barn asap

[@lgrw660factory]

This is exactly the bike I’ve been waiting for. At that price, it looks brilliant. Shut up and TAKE MY MONEY, Honda!

[@stubbingtonmarigold3032]

I don’t believe Honda will EVER price their stuff under anyone else.

[@muleavenger9772]

I like the look of the CB650 more. Maybe if they gave it more ques from the older hornet it would look nicer in my eyes. But on paper it looks great.

[@trunktoyz]

Lol @ 2:42. "20 more hurse purers" 🤣🤣🤣

[@lhyodaliwan5735]

Disappointed in the aesthetic design.

[@ukaszKokoszkiewicz]

Horrible headlight, worst then MT-09 :D

[@rabbychan]

What is your bike?

[@ukaszKokoszkiewicz]

@@rabbychan Now it's 2022 Yamaha XSR 900

[@lilsharky2163]

I like it. I just wish they would do a circle headlight. Like the ones on the super73 ebikes. Idk why I just think it looks so much cleaner than the funky jagged, wasp looking ones you always find on these style of bikes

[@efrey614]

98.7% of people agree with you 100% of the time. Including me! These new sv650 specs tank size power, and weight are so far off of my like new sv650N not by a little bit either. By 1 gallon of gas smaller tank and weighing wet 186kg not 200. The hp is only 73.8 compared to this 72 but in every way my 2008 Aluminum frame seems to be the better SV650 in ever single way on paper anyway. Emissions, abs, a steel frame with a gallon less gas , and less power weighing 14kg more is a lot more 30.865 pounds. I love my sv. But I love all my bikes 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@DenzilPeters]

I’m from india and I have the hornet 2.0! Which is basically the hornet 190 or something like that from other markets. It’s a nice bike! My first ever too, this big bike version of the hornet looks so sexy 👌🏽

[@MirchiBoy]

It's a cheaper bike to make for honda and you'll miss the 4-cylinders when they are gone. This a NC750 inside a cb650 modified frame. The look of the new bike looks like an asian knock off. It's all good, we still have Kawasaki for 4-cylinders.

[@ThermicLight]

Unfortunately I4 are becoming a thing of the past. At least when regarding anything under 1000cc. Though P2 have their strong points too.

[@vilhelmsbalodis7637]

Looks like bigger capacity CB500F and I LOVE it!

[@im.js.17]

I thought that was it's biggest downfall 😂 honda had an opportunity to make something new and different, yet kept the old styling language. painful to see

[@RRRRefuelRideRace]

You are quite right. The front is very similar and I like it to. Drop by when have time.

[@stevenbrooks1243]

I still have my 04 Matte Uranium Green CB919 Hornet great running still

[@giovanniricci4369]

Not a bike that would drive me mad but a good package for the price, thumbs up 👍✌

[@MrPagro21]

It's just a cb500f with more cc 😡

[@MrPagro21]

I was looking to buy it ill see what suzuki new 750 is saying

[@im.js.17]

@@MrPagro21 any release date for that suzuki? Based on what honda said, I was really expecting something different, but visually it really is a cb500f with a bigger engine and a 5 inch TFT display

[@MrPagro21]

@@im.js.17 Any time soon next year around the same time as the Honda. Also just wait they might release a sports bike version of the hornet. Honda always give you the most basic look than after 3 years then make it look nice and force you to upgrade.

[@adiohead]

Looks dated already.

[@AcatGaming]

Honda will definitely put this engine in a sportbike frame to compete against the R7, RS660, ninja 650 etc. Might be a good competition

[@ThermicLight]

Hopefully 🤞

[@Tobeon2]

I am overall content with my 2019 Suzuki GSX S750, but I wish it was lighter.... 190 kg with quick shifter?.. I am quite tempted.. 🤔

[@BarnettSpeedSuzukiThou]

Motorcycle manufacturers are getting very good at ugly headlight designs.

[@Niro.C]

This new CB750 Hornet does not have the gorgeous classy Neo-Retro style of the CB125/300/650/1000 R series and it cannot replace the CB650R as it turns to other types of buyers. I hope there will be a CB750R ...

[@jamesshaw3225]

What about comparing it to the Aprilia Tuono 660? rrp is £5 more than the Trident I belive? Yet it top trumps all the others on almost everything?

[@motobob]

Tuono 660 RRP is £9,700 which puts it in another league really, although I believe a lot of dealers are selling them a lot cheaper which is weird.

[@ThermicLight]

Rather niche considering the Aprilla is notably more expensive while being less reliable too.

[@bas7a881]

@@motobob true the tuono/rs 660s are in a diff league price wise, but what do the Japanese manufacturers or bmw or Triumph offering as competition. As far as I can tell none of them offer a bike that competes with the 660s on basic features like cruise control on a sub 900cc bike.

[@ghostfire1895]

CB750 Hornet figures look excellent ... I want this bike!

[@hondaexplorer]

Hoping for that 750 into an ADV 🤞🤞🤞

[@Motorard]

Middleweights. My new beginner bike to start on. Probably inclined to the trident but this hornet is a considerable bike

[@teamtempest844]

Dealer rejected SV. The 1 star reviews for Superbike Factory states everything you need to know.

[@steve-wu7jp]

Honda has so much heritage and yet they give us another generic cyborg bike that looks like the duke 890

[@blackshuckthe3rd879]

Personally I think the hornet tick's all the boxes . When available will test and most probably buy. 👍

[@stevekirk6399]

how about the Aprilia 660 factory? that has 100hp. but its £10,000!

[@bas7a881]

Both the Tuono 660 and Rs 660 beats all these bikes hands down for what they give you out of the gate. Cruise control, super electronics, all kinds of adjustability to suspension. Only issue is that it’s Italian. Damn things break too often: oil leaks; coolant leaks; mistimed valves; connecting rods breaking; electronics crapping out. You could have any one of those issues, all of them, or none of them. You simply don’t know. And if something gives, your bikes garaged for a couple months cos getting parts takes forever. If aprilia didn’t have this issue, I would’ve been all over it 😔

[@meilmontigny9201]

I would NEVER change my cb650r for the Hornet.

[@TheOverisel]

90hp from a 750 parallel twin is excellent. This is brake hp and no crank hp as well? The Triumph Speed Twin (I know not the same class) is a 1200 twin and make 96 hp at the crank.