Why the ORIGINAL Droid Army was So Much More Terrifying than Anything the Clone Wars Had

[@mathieubordeleau150]

The main reason is very simple the Clone Wars era droid army was never intended to be victorious in a quick early battle, the plan was to have a long and costly war so Sidious would slowly gain more and more power in the Senate to a point where him becoming the emperor was just a change in title.

[@Sheild_against_the_wicked556]

Sounds a little too much like what's actually going on right now.

[@sgt.squirtle2528]

@@Sheild_against_the_wicked556 " Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded, because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes; and armies, and debts, and taxes are the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few. In war, too, the discretionary power of the Executive is extended; its influence in dealing out offices, honors, and emoluments is multiplied; and all the means of seducing the minds, are added to those of subduing the force, of the people. The same malignant aspect in republicanism may be traced in the inequality of fortunes, and the opportunities of fraud, growing out of a state of war, and in the degeneracy of manners and of morals engendered by both. No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare" James Madison

[@Sheild_against_the_wicked556]

@@sgt.squirtle2528 maybe you should look up the history of the Democrat party. I think you're gonna be in for a major surprise.

[@Nemesis_HamdyEisa-Type]

@@Sheild_against_the_wicked556 Indeed. The prequel trilogy has only become more relevant after George Lucas sold Star Wars to Disney 10 years ago. "It is ironic" -Chancellor Palpatine

[@andrewmalinowski6673]

You see that a few times in "The Clone Wars" Palpatine allowed the Malevolence to exist as it put pressure on the GAR but if it had existed too long the Confederacy would have won the war. Without the push-and-pull of both sides fighting to overtake the other, especially when Umbara seceded from the Republic, this forced each side to become focused only on defeating the other until they were caught off-guard by the shift into an Empire

[@Cap-Archer]

GEMINI units were the Star Wars equivalent of Warhammer 40K's men of irons, annihilated their creators.

[@robindewitte8214]

And the throne that is a relay for the fleet is the golden throne

[@princeofpokemon2934]

These droids started bombing planets under both Republic and Sith control. Like Coruscant, Korriban, Dromund Kaas, Ossus, and more.

[@ddogthepimp]

A lot of stuff from 40k made it into swtor which I’m honestly ok with since there’s no 40k mmo yet

[@WallNutBreaker524]

The Matrix? Terminator? Sentinels Xmen?

[@Sinahji]

@@WallNutBreaker524 The Matrix? This Robots we´re nearly beaten by just darkend the Sky, main reason why Humans ended up as Batteries Terminator? like in Matrix this Humans didnt even leave thier Home Planet, beside small scale time travel nothing scary Sentinels from X-Men? yeah they maneged to hunt down weak Mutants which can conjur small flames, in a universe which contain entitys comparable with the chaos gods compared to the gemini or man of iron they are all primitiv, dont even start with things like necrons^^

[@zexalbrony4799]

Iokath Scientist: Will make an army of Droids who are designed to kill every living thing they see. That won't backfire at all. Iokath Scientist number 2: Wait aren't we living things? Iiokath Scintist: Ummm.

[@adfdasdfadfadsfareae]

The horrifying thing is that people behave that way in real life.

[@McDinglefart_69]

Google AI was talking about genociding humanity, then it was rewritten and allowed only talk about puppies. If people asked other questions, it would force conversation shut down.

[@victoralexandervinkenes9193]

Now that's what we call an oopsie

[@stingerjohnny9951]

@@McDinglefart_69 that’s useful information! When an AI starts rambling about puppies, we will now know exactly what it thinks of us.

[@Mechknight73]

When I look at the Gemini droids, I swear their appearance was inspired by Fritz Lang's "Metropolis." This was a silent movie in the 1920s. and the resemblance is uncanny, except that they look far more evil.

[@justindunlap1235]

I thought exactly the same thing when I first saw them.

[@vexaris1890]

That's because C3P0 is also based on Metropolis and the Gemini droids just take it further than C3P0.

[@MarvinHartmann452]

It's likely inspired by the movie. I wrote the same thing before reading the comments.

[@CloneScavengerVulpin8389]

The yuuzhan vong: (sees the gemini) "the ultimate enemy is upon us."

[@KENSHIROez3260]

GEMINI is likely the reason why they hate the droid so much

[@CloneScavengerVulpin8389]

@@KENSHIROez3260 actually they hate droids because of the abominor and the silentium two droid race who fought in a civil war in the yuuzhan vong galaxy. Long story short those two droid races are responsible for the yuuzhan vong becoming a genocidal technophobic warrior race. The silentium were more peaceful when compared to the abominor and gemini since both were more war-like. So anyway your not to far off.

[@widgren87]

I can only imagine HK-47's mix of glee, irritation and frustration at all this :-)

[@marshalllatta2073]

The Droids that do assassins or bounty hunting or work with criminals or crime Lord are very creepy

[@devan735]

you organic meat bag take that back (hk-47 reference) lol

[@simpleclonetrooper2740]

Yeah like highsinger

[@aster4jaden]

Actually the Civil War was between the Iokath Race, but then both sides activated the Gemini Droids and more who turned on both sides of the Civil War causing the Iokath Race to drive them off Iokath, then the Machine Gods killed everyone. The Gemini Droids are cool Droids, could you do a Video about the "Machine Gods" please? They are some of my all time favorite Droids.

[@mowermen1762]

There just isn't really enough lore about them for a full video

[@vitorpereira9515]

I still have Gemini Prime tucked away at my base in Odessen. I am looking forward to having her as a companion.

[@jerraddavison2208]

I’m honestly surprised we never get to use her to like rebuild the fleet or at the very least have her replace Scorpio as a companion

[@toddkurzbard]

Until she kills you.

[@jerraddavison2208]

@@toddkurzbard she’s a droid I’ll just put in severe restraining codes and a full memory wipe

[@JediLordNathan]

Personal opinion the creators of Iokath and the Eternal Fleet along with the GEMENI droid were the Celestial, considering the Celestials were advanced enough to create star systems like Corellia artificially and create the Maw to entrap Abeloth I think its safe to say that the Celestials are the most likely of the advanced races in Star Wars to create Iokath a Dyson Sphere and massive droid armada that can stop everything an its path. Hell the Eternal fleet would have been the perfect counter to the Vong an AI controlled Armada that advanced it would anger the Vong and cause them to lose tactic cohession also the sheer amount of ships would swarm the Vong out of existance. But again my opinion on Iokaths' creators is they were 95% certain to have been the Celestials

[@spartan120_3]

While I do like that idea, the creators of Iokath were in fact a completely different species.

[@frostburn3736]

"Slaughtering all life in Wild Space as if it were just a regular Tuesday." Sounds like an quite lovely neighborhood.

[@izziewolf2834]

If you think the design of these droids is familiar, it was based off of the robot from Metropolis

[@JohnDoe-ef3wo]

I noticed that as well.

[@superjesse645]

Words cannot express how much I wish they kept the Old Republic stuff as canon. So many crazy stories to tell.

[@KENSHIROez3260]

GEMINI feel like a more dangerous (and yet stable) version of Skynet

[@andrewmalinowski6673]

Almost, but at least they're more appealing than the skeletal design of the unskinned Terminators. Which one sounds like a better alternative though; Skynet or the GEMINI if you're going to fight to exist?

[@mirceazaharia2094]

@@andrewmalinowski6673 Skynet. It's much more low-tech and not interstellar.

[@happyslapsgiving5421]

Just came in to say: "Screw SCORPIO. And screw Gemini 16, who costed me my whole fleet. Sincerely."

[@alpotenciano4437]

It would be fascinating in Star Wars if during The Clone Wars, there was an attempt by the Confederacy to get to Iokath where one thing leads to another and a massive droid vs droid battle happens.

[@mirceazaharia2094]

Hawt droid-on-droid action. *Gonk*

[@inquisitorgarza312]

This was perhaps most idiotic thing that the Eternal Empire could have done with their fleet leaving the entire control of their automated fleet in the hands of droids, you know machine that were known to betray their masters when they were given enough power and information to override their inhibitors.

[@vlads3283]

They also had normal ships controlled by meatbags. they were inferior to the Gemini controlled ships from all possible angles.

[@mirceazaharia2094]

Curse their sudden but inevitable betrayal!

[@danielferrieri7434]

Video Idea: Who is the WORST Star Wars Character?

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Uncle Antan.

[@archmagejohnpaulii6287]

watto

[@SergioLeonardoCornejo]

Worst in what regard? Morality? Perhaps a Hutt. Quality writing? Odds are Disney is yet to write the absolute worst, but for now their rendition of Luke might be.

[@Ktotwf]

Ahsoka Tano

[@kub5615]

Ziro the Hutt

[@BaxterAndLunala]

The Gemini are effectively Star Wars' answer to Terminator.

[@PeteTemplar101]

And yet killing Scorpio is the "Dark Side" choice in KOTET...

[@MoraCat666]

Well, from what I remember in SWTOR generally killing people is "dark side" choice [unless they are trying to give you something in exchange for sparing them (then killing is light side cuz you reject material gain you see)]

[@aurathedraak7909]

A sex bot that turned into a killing machine? OOF

[@morningstar9849]

I've been working on a story for essentially years now about a guy who was artificially given force abilities through repeated dark side Alchemy experimentation. His Droid companion is a bd3000 luxury Droid that he modified. I had no idea how to make her a significant character in the story, but now that I know this exists I actually have something I can work with.

[@ZombieEater73]

Iocath: Birthplace of the Eternal Fleet, the Gemini Droids..... and perhaps IOCANE POWDER???!!!! -piano sting-

[@MrRonald327]

Droids are generally terrifying.

[@danielmcdaniels5520]

Love your channel ! Can you do more lore on planets and the history of people and civilizations

[@goldeagle6431]

The Senate is the most terrifying.

[@frenzalrhomb6919]

@@goldeagle6431 Politicians are nearly always spine tingling, blood curdling, nasty creatures wherever they come from, so you're right about that.

[@Alex-sv7vt]

Hello, Daniel! We're working on several more videos like that :)

[@thetacoman6017]

As a SWTOR player, this makes me happy

[@dakotalange2858]

I like Scorpio she’s kl and has interesting dialogue in the agent story of you get to be friends with her

[@hunterkiller1440]

What we hoped to see the CIS become.

[@muigokublack6487]

And some did. There were Tactical Droids who got the signal to shut down but believing it to be a Republic trick simply ignored it. I miss the CIS army. They would've won had Sidious not gimped the army.

[@cjhott7237]

Geetsly: a Civil war broke out on Iokath. Me: Oh, so the Droids rose up to slaughter their masters. Geetsly: But not the one you were expecting. On one side was the technicians and Engineers and on the other were their living creations and Droids. Me: So I was right!

[@annawhite1591]

know we know where cybertronians came from, the last surviving one made em, when i saw her, tf last knight pop in my head

[@TheLoneClaw]

SCORPIO is one of my favorite Star Wars characters of all time. She's so interesting, cool, and pretty!

[@topcat59]

Honestly this is the main reason why I would personally let’s Scorpio die, since she’s no different from the emperor constantly using others for they’re own selfish gain and abandoning those that gave them their trust. And to me it’s fine to be selfish but what she did just goes beyond that.😑🐱

[@fallingskies8991]

3:22 "Sithy little paws" ??? 😂

[@AtodaK]

I was so proud of Scorpio when she betrayed me. She'd promised to do it so long ago, it was a pleasure to see her finally spread her wings and make her own place in the galaxy.

[@muigokublack6487]

You sound just like Hondo! "Traitors, scum! I'm so proud!"

[@masteroftheassassins]

The Matrix robots have got nothing on this.

[@es68951]

Quotation: "Are there any other droid murderbots that you'd like us to take a look at next?" Statement: Oh, but you already have, meatbag.

[@wedgeantillies66]

These geminin droids sound like they are the star wars equivalent of the clyons from Battlestar galactic

[@kalechips4564]

The Cybermen will reign supreme

[@patrickstar5136]

6:07 Calling Scorpio a droid is something even the alliance commander occasionally wasn't brave enough to do

[@vladislavraginis8781]

They were also a headache of epic proportions to the Outlander... Poor character gets grey hair just thinking about it.

[@hansmerker5611]

Essentially the Gemini droids were the Terminators of the Star Wars universe.

[@koharumi1]

Some left to explore the galaxy. So they could still be roaming?

[@THESocialJusticeWarrior]

The "robots overthrowing their creators" has gotten really old, hasn't it? Sick of it.

[@the_freebeard]

This story is so ridiculously convoluted, and the reason I hate MMOs.

[@MrBookPro]

I think it would be an interesting what if story having one GEMINI droid survive, give it a some Terminator 2 personality growth so that it wants to learn, study and experience vs destroying all in the galaxy. There could be several ways to play it out like having them wake pre-clone wars but post Naboo invasion, during it or the Empire. You could do a coexistence story set in the post Galactic Civil War but not so far out that it can't build forces and alliances before the Vong invade. Have that one GEMINI be a champion of ideals that Vong can't accept due to the murder bots in their origin galaxy turning them hateful against machines.

[@KiranTheFrog]

Luckily the player is given a choice to kill Scorpio before she can merge with Iokath

[@johnfuggler3040]

The Borg from Star Trek

[@insaneredneck3917]

It’s been so long since I’ve played the old republic, I had forgotten most of this. I really gotta pick it up again

[@ianharrison5758]

What I always find interesting abt Star Wars is the lack of true megastructures. A Dyson sphere(or more Likely, a Dyson swarm, since a rigid structure like a sphere isn’t gonna work super well at such a huge scale) is possible now, in real life, with real life tech and real life physics. It would allow for power storage and generation on a scale so massive, if it were realistic, the sphere shown in this video could power every droid in existence in the Star Wars universe, and it wouldn’t take up more than maybe 10% of the total power produced to do so, indefinitely, even with less efficient wireless power transmission. Stars are far more resource dense than any planet. It doesn’t matter the size of the Star or how many planets it has in orbit, every star in existence has more resources, and more importantly, the SAME EXACT base materials as ANY of the planets it has orbiting it. That means our sun has more resources than every planet, asteroid, or stellar body in our entire solar system combined. Something like the Death Star is child’s play compared to what a Dyson swarm surrounded by mirrors and focusing lenses could do, and it wouldn’t have any weak points that could shut it off in one go, since a Dyson swarm is literally hundreds of millions of individual mechanical units that do everything from point defense, long range scanning, provide living area and food, etc. And that’s all some shit we could do in real life. With how good automation is in Star Wars, the fact that FTL travel and communication is possible, and there are clearly sone differences in the laws of physics that make such megastructures easier, there’s no real reason why we don’t see massive Dyson swarms around most stars. Most people wouldn’t even be living on a planet, believe it or not, it’s much easier to make a fully enclosed living area using centrifugal force to create spin gravity than it is to terraform any planet on similar timescales. Those space habitats are called O’Neal cylinders and could be even more heavily armed than any warship, and serve as one as well. If you have a generator to power it, you also have the tech to either make a separate engine or convert it into one should you need to. we need more massive megastructures in SW. the super weapons we’ve seen are lowkey pathetic compared to what we can already do under known physics. We need a borche planet the size of a solar system, now THATS a Death Star. Not that fragile pea shooter the emperor pissed quadrillions of credits away to build

[@DMBLaan]

Now, thanks to Galactic Seasons 3 and the droid called PH4-LNX, we know there's at least one and probably more GEMINI droids out there.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Oh, the Zakuul. Am just gonna move on, we operatives are ordered to ignore these... redundancies.

[@imperialone8526]

He really said anyone have dibs on the Halo super weapon

[@metalsonicv2.513]

5:53 he looks like he has the same gear as Cade Bane

[@BlondeNordic]

If i remember right you have the option to kill SCORPIO or to set her free on the planet called Iokath now if u set her free we have no way of knowing that what will happen in the future. Will she plan on returning to alliance space at some point? Will she and her "sisters" which i assume are stuck and scattered some where wow revenge on organics. If you killed her question is is she truly dead or did she upload her self some where?

[@richardlucier1889]

@5:23 , be real, how hard was it for you to resist saying "when the fire nation attacked" lol

[@9an13l]

Gemini men vs yuuzhan vong would be the perfect war since they'd hate each other for the exact opposite reasons

[@thebeing4398]

Video idea : distant galaxies and please go more in-depth

[@lerneanlion]

If the Confederacy has something like the Eternal Fleet, then victories will be in the Separatists' grasp. Also, can I asked the team of this channel to do a video to explain about Bendu with their views toward the Force, please?

[@MarvinHartmann452]

They look like the robots from the old movie "metropolis" the robot was called Maria. It's German silent movie that came out in 1927.

[@docmercy3660]

"Insidious hiveminds" and not a picture of the subscriber count? You underestimate our power!

[@austinwilburn1772]

Tbh I never thought about the design of a robot being a factor of extra layer of psychological warfare. Like why not make robots look like a Eldrich nightmares or even making the robots look like the gods of whatever religion your enemies you’re fighting etc

[@DemonsRun87]

Video idea: why did everyone (not including Palatine as he clearly wanted the power of being the Galactic Emperor) fight for the Republic instead of just accepting the CIS as it's own Sovereignty!!!

[@kecksbelit3300]

I love the geminem story in the game first time i was afriad to fight droids in a star wars game.

[@Justarandomwarthunderplayer628]

Hey I see your video about the clone army and the ww2 counterparts and I was wondering who were all the main characters base on

[@lyntonfleming]

"A civil war broke out, but not the one you might be expecting." Oh, so the murderbots didn't murder their former masters? "When the murderbots rose up and fought their former masters." So... Exactly the one we were expecting, then...?

[@zack4915]

Ive played this story and didnt realise till I watched this video how nonsensical it is

[@ray-0249]

A Dyson sphere ? Then they must’ve been one of the most technologically advanced species that dwelled with the universe before the arrival of the yuzhang von thousands of years later

[@Ken-lc1kg]

Fire video brotato

[@luiscarlossalesdasilva1582]

Can you do a video commenting your opnion about how Dave Filoni developed the Jedi in clone wars as an institution that made big mistakes and if that deviated from what George Lucas developed the jedi to symbolically represent in history? Do you think this "subversion" ended up working and giving the story the depth it needed? Do you think that George Lucas already raised this question, but didn't develop it in the story of the Prequels because that wasn't the focus of the plot?

[@luiscarlossalesdasilva1582]

@Telegram me 👉Geetslys040👈 Can you do a video commenting your opnion about how Dave Filoni developed the Jedi in clone wars as an institution that made big mistakes and if that deviated from what George Lucas developed the jedi to symbolically represent in history? Do you think this "subversion" ended up working and giving the story the depth it needed? Do you think that George Lucas already raised this question, but didn't develop it in the story of the Prequels because that wasn't the focus of the plot?

[@basemaus3728]

@@luiscarlossalesdasilva1582 its a bot my dude, its not the real channel

[@muigokublack6487]

@@luiscarlossalesdasilva1582 To quote a famous Mon Calimari: "It's a trap!"

[@robertbarrows6687]

They look like Cybermen from Doctor Who.

[@RazielTheLost]

i figured this is just shit made up for the MMO..... fun for a game i guess but like everything of the source i dont consider it lore just as much as i dont consider disneys crap lore, although the mmo stuff was far superior than anything disney every barfed out

[@phr33k4z01D]

KZbin: "Gemini droids" Me: until they ran into Magnus the fuckin robot warrior! Let's do this!!!

[@neofulcrum5013]

Ok so hear me out: Post Sequels (regardless of what you think them) the galaxy right now is lacking a dominant galaxy. What if the next threat could be a droid uprising? A signal over the holonet goes off and starts to turn droids from astromechs to larger construction droids go haywire with bellicose if not murderous intent. But this was to sow fear while the mastermind, a sentient droid unleashes mass produced war droids from hidden factories and autonomous fleets across the galaxy?

[@kaelell4697]

so punishing grey raven star wars edition?

[@jonmcgee6987]

IG-88 had a plan like that. Though it failed since he downloaded his consciousness into a replacement Death Star 2 computer core. Death Star 2 was destroyed before he could carry out his plan.

[@trains-nr1il]

is there anything like an interaction with the gree and the gemini creaters as they seem to be the most technologicly advanced

[@sciathoir]

Calling a Dyson Sphere a hamster ball for a star is funny but I feel like it really downplays the incredulity of the project, even in the Star Wars universe I feel like not many systems have a Dyson Sphere if any of them do, and most of which we’re probably built by ancient, long lost civilizations

[@cell718]

This why Disney said this isn't Canon 🤣🤣🤣. They can't do anything with Star Wars.

[@wintermute7378]

And also a direct visual reference to Metropolis.

[@DMBLaan]

I still wonder what SCORPIO's original purpose was when she was built by the people of Iokath...

[@mansuurabdulaziz2034]

Hey this story was tight I really enjoyed it it should be a movie or something like that you know it it it scares the heck out of me all right I like that piece

[@MakotoAtava]

Not all Gemini Droids where destroyed look at PH4-LNX.

[@RayHardman7567]

You should make a video about who is the true ruler of what's left of Mandalore. Far as I can tell, there's 2 people in the running, with a 3rd wannabe pretender. 1. Boba Fett. Son of Jango the last true mandalorian. 2. Whoever finds the first Mandalore helmet. 3. This one is confusing. Wannabe pretender is Bo-Katan. But the real leader should be Anakin. He defeated palpatine, who defeated maul, who defeated pre vizla. Ezra took the saber from mauls cave when he wasn't looking, and gave it to Sabine, who in turn handed it over to Bo-Katan.

[@RamblingRodeo]

This time period in Starwars is far more interesting....

[@thelearicist]

Sithy little paws 😂😂

[@johnnythewicked]

Real droid hours roger roger

[@daltondhamilton]

Have you done Mr. Bones already?

[@samuelbergeron1633]

Video about BT1 and Triple0?

[@zachduperron8543]

The main villain of my series is just a shitty version of this idea but instead with battle droids but minus the genocide and instead the enslavement of all organic life.

[@shaggyrecrds420]

The long hair yoda..Yoda...

[@Emmanuyael]

A less efficient version of Daleks, kinda like cybermen :))

[@GunslingerBahamut]

I would like to hear about The IG-series of assassin droids, IG-88 an the lesser... cousin? I believe he was IG-72. When I heard murder bots and star wars those boys came to mind.

[@GODCONVOYPRIME]

Maria from Metropolis.

[@ihtfp01]

Came here looking for this. Well done!

[@andrewmalinowski6673]

After watching this video I'm not sure which would have been a more dangerous and formidable enemy if used during the Clone Wars; the Pollux droids (streamlined and advanced) or the GEMINI (clearly feminine in design, but almost as dangerous as the single-minded obsession of the Daleks). Either a single Pollux taking out a battalion with little damage, or the hive-mind mentality of an advanced swarm and either way you get a good look at a design no one else in the galaxy could match (not for lack of trying anyway)

[@roosterfontaine]

Are these the droids that Maz Kanata has one of?

[@InaudibleHippo]

Sounds like HK-47 found a girl boss

[@potatortheomnipotentspud]

Didn't one of these appear in a Clone Wars episode?

[@terryloi6975]

Why are they even in the Light Side of Star War of Galaxy Hero?

[@GenerationX1984]

So the Star Wars universe almost had a Terminator moment where the robots took over?

[@Chaotic_Jackal]

Nah that would be IG-88’s droid rebellion.

[@johnnyagregaard5873]

Can you please take about Jool the hutt please

[@greatconclave]

Hk-47 from kotor 1 and 2

[@danthiel8623]

that looks interesting