Why the Oscars are a Joke

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The Oscars this year were an absolute joke, and not just for the reason you're all probably thinking. The animation industry deserves respect, and having it relegated to the kiddies table on the stage that is meant to celebrate the arts is utterly demeaning.
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[@princessaur]

The thing that got under my skin was them choosing the live-action princesses to hand out the award. Like "yeah animation is for KIDS but we're in the live-action versions, which makes them an adult thing, even though they usually just tell the exact same stories beat for beat."

[@Emptybee]

Those three are a microcosm of the Academy as a whole. They're pretty faces and animation terrifies them because you don't have to be pretty to star in it.

[@KeybladeMasterAndy]

Except worse.

[@willlyon7129]

The original story stories that Disney adapts were way darker than their animated counterparts.

[@amesstarline5482]

Odd, since I believe Beauty&TheBeast won best movie, well before animation got its own designated category. Live-Action BATB was very flat.

[@leebulger7112]

@@amesstarline5482 My mom likes the Live-Action BATB but something about it bugs me even though the main difference was the medium I "like" the remake but it does not add anything worthwhile that makes it stand out from the original.

[@gordontaylor2815]

Honestly, the Oscars have been going downhill for years now - this year's combination of "the slap" and the obvious disrespect for the artform of animation has just revealed that Hollywood can't paper over the flaws anymore.

[@TheSpeedfoever]

It's a place where dreams come true after all

[@racheljackson4428]

BULLIES!

[@brewster7498]

@@racheljackson4428 ???

[@Launchpad05]

If Hollywood had the power to wipe out the entire animation industry, it would, and it would no longer have to deal with those pesky cartoons ever again. That's how much contempt they have for animation.

[@2000sKingdomHeartzHimefujo]

“kids are watching these movies over and over and over” jesus they’re making it sound like these movies are mindless cashgrabs

[@Demonic_Culture_Nut]

It's even better since þe people saying þat are þe leads in mindless cashgrabs.

[@cousinparty7266]

@@Demonic_Culture_Nut Agreed but is it just me or does your th look VERY different?

[@jdawson7877]

ironic since the movies there staring in are cashgrabs.

[@CaptianDerp69]

The Oscars are a joke it's rich people telling other rich people how wonderful and talented they are for four hours.

[@KeybladeMasterAndy]

That's actually why they have usually gotten comedians like Chris Rock to host until recent years. They would take everybody down a peg or two.

[@hafirenggayuda]

Hollywood is their own "elite" private club.

[@kieranstark7213]

Ex: Will Smith Slaps Chris Rock

[@cliffturbo2146]

@@kieranstark7213 Even rich people slaps themselves.

[@JoeyTurner476]

...the fact that the three actresses play live-action "grown-up" versions of three beautifully animated "kiddy" movies really says a lot... they're secretly bitter because people are always gonna prefer the originals over their "attempts".

[@JoeyTurner476]

ALSO, something else about that speech that I hate - if watching an animated movie with your kids is such a chore... maybe you shouldn't have been parents, stupid! :P

[@gordontaylor2815]

The first rule of remakes is that, for better or worse, they will ALWAYS be compared to the original. A natural corollary to that rule is that if the remake is not regarded as "clearly better" than the original, it will always be treated as the "inferior version" (even if the movie is solid from a technical perspective).

[@ninjaked1265]

Pretty sure their speech was written by the Academy

[@willlyon7129]

This is why we need more animated films for adult audiences. Like in the 70s and 80s, American Pop, Heavy Metal, Wizards, Water-ship Down and Fritz the Cat.

[@CrazyCartoonCat12]

Preach, brother, preach!

[@WolfmanArt]

My heart goes to the animation community... I'm an adult with no kids, and yet I still prefer to watch animated films; the hours the animators, artists, and writers put into the films have my DEEPEST respect! It's the reason why I'm trying to be an animator!

[@chrisbrasel8060]

Good for you my man. I hope you can become animator yourself and do great things as one. Animation is art and it is cinema.

[@leebulger7112]

Animation is an art that should be respected, I think I am lucky to have a part time job at a Texas Roadhouse that is right next to a Theater so if there is a movie I want to see I can just walk across the parking lot.

[@chrisbrasel8060]

@@leebulger7112 I hope your making some great stuff. Animation is most definitely art and medium not a genre and just a kiddies thing. It's for everyone.

[@leebulger7112]

@@chrisbrasel8060 I do not animate but I do understand how people who do art feel but thanks anyway. I should have said I am just a Silverware roller.

[@leebulger7112]

@@chrisbrasel8060 I am just a silverware roller if you did not see the edit.

[@dissonanceparadiddle]

The irony of Disney owning the network the Oscars are on yet animation isn't taken seriously is wild.... Although Disney in that way keeps more ambitious, less kid centric animated films from winning and making people continue to have the notion that only Disney and Pixar matter.... What a vicious cycle

[@dorkfish1275]

disney delenda est pixar can live

[@dissonanceparadiddle]

@@dorkfish1275 honestly they're so in bed together at this point I see them as two halves at the same hole Pixar's slightly better but then again you got monsters like John Lassiter that I'm sure weren't alone in the company with all that garbage

[@TheSpeedfoever]

We love Disney movies that's why

[@dorkfish1275]

@@dissonanceparadiddle fair

[@dissonanceparadiddle]

@@TheSpeedfoever I love a ton of them too.... But there comes a point where this just gets insulting to the artists and viewers alike

[@DepthTravel]

the fact that they had the live action princesses present, is a bigger slap in the face to me as well. i wish animated characters would present instead of actual people.

[@welcometothemetaverse2523]

Even the cast of of Encanto got pushed to the side (and behind) during the "We Don't Talk About Bruno" performance in favor of other celebrities.

[@DepthTravel]

@@welcometothemetaverse2523 true! It felt like a KZbin video with an ad right in the middle, the ad being about the Oscars and rad they are.

[@Stargazer_Ley]

With the advances in technology, the could totally do that. That would be neat.

[@welcometothemetaverse2523]

@@DepthTravel They even had a giant globe on stage that showed TikTok videos that were actually better renditions.

[@annafowdy]

They did that in 2016.

[@MundoJuanci]

Flee should've won. The fact that they joked of "animation being just for kids" and they had an ADULT ANIMATED FILM NOMINATED IN THREE CATEGORIES

[@leebulger7112]

Did Flee win any of them?

[@cousinparty7266]

@@leebulger7112 No. It didn't have a shot in any of the categories considering Encanto became a worldwide sensation, Summer of Soul is unanimously agreed on as the best doc of the year, and same with Drive My Car.

[@leebulger7112]

@@cousinparty7266 I watched the Oscars and I was pretty sure Flee did not win any.

[@cousinparty7266]

@@leebulger7112 yeah that was my point. My point was also the fact that Flee was against some stiff competition in the categories it got nominated for.

[@leebulger7112]

@@cousinparty7266 I remember Best Animated Feature what were the other 2.

[@welcometothemetaverse2523]

Its so ironic yet fitting having 3 Disney live-action REMAKE princesses mock animated films of which their roles were just copycats of. I just don't get why the Academy always jokes like animated films are just for kids and for parents to endure despite having a category for them. Respect animation as an art form, damn it!

[@maxtull21]

Not to mention that Halle Bailey who plays Ariel in the live action adaptation of The Little Mermaid looks nothing like her and is an incredible insult to the character.

[@hafirenggayuda]

They (actors, film makers, everyone involved) kinda thinking animation are not conveying real life. "That's not a real movie" sort of thinking. Then again, they're also aware that animation grown better and high quality. Probably also afraid real life actors and settings would be replaced, losing jobs and profession

[@jdawson7877]

they don't care about the animation category it was only created just so it animated films couldn't win best picture.

[@_fussyfangs]

They're bitter because the live action remakes of the original animated movies *always SUCK* Won't be seeing The Little Mermaid remake either, the actress looks nothing like Ariel & it's a cash grab 😒

[@maxtull21]

@@_fussyfangs Likewise

[@creativelyjolie]

So I'm an animation major, and so I had to learn about the history of animation for school. What a lot of people don't get is animation started for ADULTS. Its when people started making children friendly animation that people started associating it for kids. I've had people come up to me and be like why do you like animated movies? Animation is for kids, grow up. I'm so freaking tired of people talking badly about animation. Animation is for EVERYONE. I also feel like the speeches for the animation section was a giant middle finger to the animation industry. Its like "Hey! I haven't seen any of the movies expect Encanto because of my kid." Its like you know the makers of those films are there right? Words can't describe how rude that was. Plus the fact that they had the live action princesses come out is like what others are saying below. Its pretty much coming off as animation is for kids, but live actions are for adults! Which is bullshit. Saying that kids watch these films over and over again isn't funny, its just plain rude. The last thing I will say is when people talk badly about animation I feel like sometimes people forget that its the adults working on the movies, not kids. So the next time someone talks badly about the medium they should think about these points first. Its ridiculous.

[@cortster12]

If people saw some of the animations I watch on various sites they'd change their tune about them 'being for kids' in a heart beat.

[@laoaidan2400]

Which type of animation are you majoring in? I’m majoring for computer (3D) animation. Both of them are difficult and it’s always infuriating how none of these “experts” in the movie industry (being experienced actors and such) think beyond their little bubble about what actually goes into making what they see on screen. It’s ironic too that when you criticize these actors and their movies, they get on their high horse Twitter accounts to defend it and shame the average person for doing it. How out of touch can you be?

[@creativelyjolie]

@@laoaidan2400 I completely agree. I used to major in 3D animation. I remember I actually had to write equations into Maya. There's so much math that goes into it. So props to you! Maya is super difficult. Since I'm not good at math and stuff I switched to cutout animation. Its a inbetween between hand drawn and maya. Think Rick and Morty and Bobs Burgers. The software I use is Toon Boom.

[@MinecraftIsLoveMinecraftIsLife]

they fail to realize that animation is a medium for telling a story, not a genre.

[@horsecrazypeep101]

Somebody publicly getting on stage and admitting they don’t know the material they’re presenting is really cringe !

[@Emptybee]

Dear Hollywood: Here's my quick and easy guide to answer the burning question "Should we remake this movie?" 1) Did it win an Oscar or otherwise garner critical acclaim? Do Not Remake. 2) Was it a huge commercial success? Do Not Remake. 3) Is it a cult classic or otherwise vindicated by history? Do Not Remake. 4) Did it come out less than two decades ago? Do Not Remake. 5) Do you have an interesting new take on the original idea? Something that adds to and improves it? If yes, then go right ahead. If no, Do Not Remake.

[@Dr.WaluigiReviews]

I find it sad that no respect is given at the Oscar's in recent years. Because there was a time that the Oscar's were a respectful and proud ceremony, but I find that since the end of the 2000's there has been more emphasis on being silly and cynical during the ceremonies that is honestly getting distracting and annoying.

[@TheCommenterDragon]

I've always found it stupid that there are people out there who believe that animation is made specifically for children, when it's obviously meant for people of all ages otherwise things like adult animated films,cartoons and even anime wouldn't exist.

[@williamwebster9437]

Excatly.

[@CyberLance26]

Yea but those people only know about Disney and know nothing else at all about animated shows and movies. Disney is literary the only animation that most people know about.

[@renamon5658]

The Oscars seem to be a way for Celebities to inflate their egos

[@welcometothemetaverse2523]

Even the cast of of Encanto got pushed to the side (and behind) during the "We Don't Talk About Bruno" performance in favor of other celebrities.

[@8AKI47]

@@welcometothemetaverse2523 i hated that performance i lost it all when megan appeared

[@cousinparty7266]

@@welcometothemetaverse2523 This and Regina's sexual harassment deserve as much attention as the slap and disrespect to animation from the ceremony, if not more.

[@marygraceoyangorin8918]

@@welcometothemetaverse2523 the Oscar's rendition of the song is one of the worst thing I have seen

[@willlyon7129]

We live in a world that idolize celebrities and there fictional personalities, but not the artists themselves.

[@Bunni-6942]

Agreed. Animation isn’t just for kids. It’s for all ages. -.-

[@TheCommenterDragon]

Exactly, otherwise there wouldn't be adult animated films,cartoons and anime...because even those are proof that animation is for all ages.

[@leebulger7112]

@@TheCommenterDragon Yeah, there are definitely moments in anime that are not for kids like even in the early parts of Naruto all bets were off who would live or die.

[@Azure9577]

@@leebulger7112 you should absolutely watch naoki urasawa's monster

[@leebulger7112]

@@Azure9577 Where can I find it? What is it about?

[@somesadnormie5881]

@@leebulger7112 Yeah but that's anime.

[@MegaAchilles23]

Only twice have non-Disney non-Pixar films won consecutive years 1. Shrek followed by Spirited Away 2. Wallace & Gromit followed by Happy Feet

[@NeoDragonCount]

Far as I'm concerned; true entertainment is dead. Sure there's a gem in there every now and again, but it gets disregarded by the "but the chart says" people. Hence we lost actual great series like The Owl House getting cut short because, apparently, people don't want to watch an episodic show because viewers might tune in at a specific episode and not know what's happening... In the age where streaming services thrive! If something is mainstream, it's hollow, impassionate and not worth it. For me, watching most movies now is a chore. Hence I haven't watched any new ones in ages.

[@TheSpeedfoever]

It's not dead yet it's coming back so don't give up

[@KeybladeMasterAndy]

Sounds like you've already given up.

[@NeoDragonCount]

@@KeybladeMasterAndy Hardly, I support indie entertainment.

[@HenshinFanatic]

@@TheSpeedfoever 3 epilogue specials does not constitute a return in my book.

[@guncannon109]

This could not have come at the better time Maddie as my wife and I just rewatched Avatar the Last Airbender for the first time in years. The entire series is amazing all the way through, this is true, but when we hit the episode "The Tales of Ba Sing Se" from season 2 there was one particular scene (yes, THAT one) that once it had concluded we needed to pause the episode as we immediately began to bawl our eyes out for a good 5-10 minutes. Animation is not only cinema, animation is ART.

[@13thfullmoon3]

I don’t get why they bashed animation so much. I really don’t.

[@tristanmilner9511]

"You're dead if you aim only for kids. Adults are only kids grown ups anyways." -Walt Disney Walt Disney himself never made animation only for children. Fantasia is fantastic example of that.

[@jdcman8949]

Well, there's the fact that Walt greatly condensed and altered the source material when he produced 'Pinocchio' and 'The Jungle Book', so he probably pissed off the estates of Collodi and Kipling for clownishly altering certain great works despite the groundbreaking (yet honestly wasted) high quality animation.

[@tristanmilner9511]

@@jdcman8949 except Walt passed away during Jungle Book's production. Granted, he did lighten the hell out of Kipling's original work.

[@jdcman8949]

He did the same for Collodi's 'Pinocchio', at least for the most part because, aside from altering the book's sequences and characters, the infamous donkey sequence has to be the one sequence that stays true to the tone of the book the most. The one difference, however, is that Disney's Pinocchio escapes the island only partially transformed while the Pinocchio in the book fully becomes a donkey and gets captured along with the other kidnapped boys. Also, in case you haven't heard, Guillermo del Toro is producing his own stop-motion animated version which will be released in this year's Christmas season. Hope he takes fewer liberties than Walt.

[@crystalfairy912]

Thank you for acknowledging the animated films that ARE meant for kids. Usually when this topic is brought up, people turn to the adult subject matters featured in animation or the rare adult animated movie. But there’s nothing wrong with animation being created FOR kids. That’s the joy of the medium! It’s no different from say Drake and Josh being for kids while How I Met Your Mother being for adults. It’s what you do with the medium that matters. And the Oscars have no right to bash animation the way they did. Oscars are on ABC. ABC is owned by Disney. Disney made its success on animation! Get your heads out of your butts, Academy!

[@marygraceoyangorin8918]

True!

[@sevenequalsoneheart6710]

My parents often made me feel stupid for enjoying anything that featured a fictional character or world. Even trying to get me to stop watching cartoons and playing video games when i turned 10 and start watching the news and talking about politics. I AM NOT JOKING. they scoff at me when i say i want to get into animation, writing and video game development because they think it is a waste of time. Right in front of my uncle who was (and still is) a professional artist, specializing in digital art, clay sculpting, Bronze Sculpting, and oil painting, and was trying to teach me the basics when i was a kid. I literally have no clue why they have had this mindset because when i was 4 i was being harrassed by my preschool teacher who kept trying to single me out as stupid when i was asked what i wanted to be when i grew up. I said Artist and they kept trying to argue with a 4 yr old why that wasnt an appropriate answer saying it was a job or hobby and not a career. And even trying to pick an "appropriate answer" for me themselves by saying i should be a janitor or a garbage man. My parents were there and argued if one kid wanted to be a superhero unicorn princess i had every right to say i wanted to be an artist. So how my parents ended up with that bitch of a teacher's mindset when i was being given private lessons by my uncle Is completely baffling. Even now they make me feel bad for wanting to be creative, trying to bond with my younger cousins and my niece who all are allowed to like cartoons even though the youngest of them is 12 and the eldest is 24. There double standards just infuriate me

[@volespirit247]

Your folks are unimaginative/uncreative jerkwads

[@isabeld.paredes4923]

How sad it must have been for you. I understand how you must have felt upon hearing those things. If you want to be an artist, especially an animator, go ahead. It's your dream By the way, I believe 10 is not exactly the age to be talking about news and politics (unless the kid is gifted and/or is genuinely interested in such topics)

[@sevenequalsoneheart6710]

@@isabeld.paredes4923 i mean i did have an 8th grade reading level and 12th grade comprehension level at 10. I don't know if that exactly equates to being gifted. My parents told me that i was offered a chance to skip a grade but because the supervisor never explained what was going on to my teachers i got in trouble for not being in my appropriate classroom and looking like a fool...

[@isabeld.paredes4923]

​@@sevenequalsoneheart6710 Your being able to have 12th-grade comprehension levels at 10 should have qualified you, at the very least, as a "bright normal" person. As for the skipping grades, my main problem with it is that it leaves the student sort of unprepared for the grade they're placing him or her in because they lack certain skills to understand certain subjects in the new grade and that should have been learned in the grade not attended

[@sevenequalsoneheart6710]

@@isabeld.paredes4923 i can see that being a problem. I can only speak for myself since the material always felt repetitive and a little too easy even in elementary school. The only upside i see with skipping grades is the idea of getting away from bullies sooner.

[@Stargazer_Ley]

What frequently gets on my nerves is being talked down to for liking animation. You want to know what happened this week in animation? A superhero animated series used the word nonbinary when a character came out as such. I cry at the end of season two of Young Justice everytime I watch it and thinking about Wally's birthday episode is also a tearjerker. The series is animated but no less powerful. As for movies, Lilo and Stitch will always be one of my favorite films. I've seen almost every DC animated film on HBOMax and The Flashpoint Paradox's ending is touching. I have rewatched Justice League vs the Fatal Five because the story is powerful (a young woman with ptsd is called to be a Green Lanturn and ends up being an inspiration for a young man in the future with schizophrina who comes back to protect the young woman- watch it it's good). I could rant for days about this and bring up animated films and series that are more powerful than people give them credit for. We grew up with animation what makes these people think we weren't going to make animation for ourselves as we got older?

[@leebulger7112]

I have not watched Young Justice for a long time, so I not remember that much but who is NB in it?

[@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr]

@@leebulger7112 , Halo is none binary in Season 4, but I was more extremely annoyed about the autistic child in that series because I’d much rather have no autistic and ADHD characters in media than lazily token characters presented in media.

[@leebulger7112]

@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr Not sure if I got that far in the series, I am autistic myself.

[@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr]

@@leebulger7112 , I should have given you a spoiler warning for the newest episode of Young Justice Season 4, and I’m sorry for giving you a massive spoiler.

[@leebulger7112]

@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr It not really a spoiler because I have not seen Young Justice in a long time but maybe I will watch it somehow and by the time I get to that point I will forget most of the details you told me. Where can I watch it?

[@rathsatyr3553]

There’s an innate shaming of your childhood that comes with adulthood for many. Some parents raise their children before they are ready and they conflate their ideas of adulthood (abandoning their childhood completely) is what it actually is.

[@anthonyanderson3448]

That feels insulting that these women wanted to criticize animated movies as a movie just for kids that the adults have to put up with. Yes some animated movies are targeted kids only but most of them has some mature subjects and stories that parents could enjoy. They forgotten what their old boss said. "If you only write for kids you are dead. Adults are only kids in the inside." Its sad they lost that touch.

[@m488thunderbird3]

With this news case in general I find that it shows much irony and exactly what James Arnold Taylor talks about with Hollywood, because does it almost feel as if MLP and other animations are seen as for Kids while ironically Will Smith is behaving more childish himself.

[@mozax8118]

1:33 THIS NOBODY PLAYING AS ARIEL IS A CRIME AGAINST MY CHILDHOOD AND HUMANITY!!!!!!!!!!

[@beethovensfidelio]

That nobody is singer Halle Bailey who is part of the R&B duo “Chloe x Halle” (Chloe is Halle‘s sister). The Holocaust was a crime against humanity, not the existence of a black Ariel. How dare you make that comparison! 😤 And if you think a black Ariel is going to ruin your childhood memories, then your childhood memories aren’t worth ruining. Besides, the Disney animated film already ruined the original Andersen fairy tale by having Ariel marry Prince Eric.

[@mozax8118]

@@beethovensfidelio ok 🙁

[@beethovensfidelio]

@@mozax8118 Did you express that same outrage when Auli’i Cravalho played Ariel in “The Little Mermaid Live!”, even though Auli’i is a Native Hawaiian woman with brown hair? Red wigs and hair dye exist! Besides, Ariel will still be the same dumb, bratty, and selfish teenager regardless of skin color.

[@mozax8118]

@@beethovensfidelio ok

[@jeremy1860]

Animation has been looked down on for years, and one day I hope it'll be given the respect it deserves 😟

[@8AKI47]

The mermaid live action is already a disappointment before even releasing

[@KSCGGuy14]

Here's my speech if I was to present the category: For many years, the art form known as animation has come a long. From the golden age with silly short cartoons, to now having a face to present an individual's vision through visuals. The nominees featured tonight have entertained, amazed and captivated millions from around the world. Their stories, either funny or breathtaking, have resonated to many nations and their civilians. No matter how old they might be.

[@KeeKage37]

It’s such a shame how so many times Animation and comics are always shown no respect and seen as “only for kids.” Despite many tackling serious and mature issues. Wether it’s general teams from Encanto, to the story of people trying to survive through harsh times like in the bread winner. Comics do it too, from many hero’s that had to deal with addiction, to societal issues and, various shades of trauma. Yet time and again it’s seen as just “kids stuff,” and both the story’s, medium, and creative team are never given the respect there due. Hopefully as more and more people shake off the stigma that adults can love both comics and animation the medium will finally be given the respect it deserves.

[@katherined]

Let's be honest to the live action princesses on the stage. Those (kids) animated films that you are remaking still are ten times better then your (grown up)m live action remakes. Those animated films are a work of art with their animation, they are full of life with memorable characters we all become attach to, songs we are still singing today, and stories that can only be shown through this media. They should be respected for all the hard work people put in to create these stories. By thee way, the whole animation is only for kids.... show them Watership down, Coraline, Sausage party, 9, Grave of the fireflies, and Akira (Also the attack on titan anime and Legend of Vox Machina tv show)

[@jdawson7877]

there probably just bitter because they know there inferior to the original versions.

[@gustyko8668]

Animation is NOT cinema....CINEMA IS ANIMATION!!! (And I'm not even being hyperbolic)

[@animehuntress9018]

Yeah, this and few other things really make me Not want to see the Little Mermaid when it comes out... and it really makes me worry for some of the other "Classics" they might do in Live Action.

[@Merlodica]

Ironic how the actresses at the Oscars heavily decried animated films as tiresome baby stuff, when not even a second before were boasting about the fact that they’re the live-action versions of these Disney characters. The sheer arrogance displayed here is enough to make me puke. I’m sick and tired of the entertainment industry, and the actors that infest it. Take a hike Hollywood and shove your contemptuous platitudes and attitudes where the sun don’t shine.

[@localtrashmamal]

Honestly, it less bothers me when people say that animation is for kids AND MORE when people get butthurt when an animated movie shows something like violence/gore, NSFW, substance abuse, etc. Like...sorry that this movie presented in a specific artform wasn't made for your toddler Jessica, maybe if you were a little careful about what your kids watch but NO.

[@tristanpetty7173]

Yeah. It's like, they are dismissive over animation being "too kiddy" but then, when confronted by something like The Plague Dogs or Sausage Party, it's always "Won't somebody please think of the children?"! It is so annoying and it gives the impression that some people just bash the medium simply for something to act above it.

[@jillevers1432]

This is amazing; animation isn't limited by age. And to add on, don't forget that it's adults who create animation, so during their process, they enjoy the work too. I also remember leaving a comment somewhere that the Hallie girl to play Ariel, how she has an amazing voice and did her part bringing out her "Ariel" when she sang for Disney's 50 anniversary. And then it got sad when someone replied, "she going to be the best Ariel," and while I believe she will, I stand by and say no one played out Disney's Ariel better than Jodi Benson (it's like say Will Smith was a better genie but no one really can top Robin's performance right?).

[@leebulger7112]

They do not just disrespect the audience but the animators that were likely inspired to be so by the films they see growing up and they work hard for every bit of it.

[@Orthus100]

Just finished a She-ra rewatch last night and I cry so many times watching it, or hell, even thinking about some scenes.

[@leebulger7112]

She-ra is great.

[@Hamantha]

The best thing to come from the speech was seeing the backlash and actual support out there

[@blaizegottman4139]

Yeah what the hell they didn't treat animation Right at all

[@JAProductions494]

As much as I hate them throwing animation under the bus, it wasn’t actually the part which annoyed me the most about the show The part which annoyed me the most was when they put the ‘lesser categories’ in the pre-show to save time and one of those was BEST EDITING!!! EDITING IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT PARTS OF FILMMAKING YOU CRUSTY OLD TWATS!!!! Sorry, got a bit mad. As a beginner editor who’s very passionate about the process, it really does piss me off

[@Legomicroman]

i assume that they've done that, because you can't squeeze celebrity-screentime out of the topic of editing. and i agree: editing is far too under-appreciated... come to think of it, the best move would be to make a YTP-Compilation about the 2022 Oscars, just out of spite.

[@williamwebster9437]

This is why I don't watch the Oscars at all. Sometimes it can be one darn joke. Your right, Mad Munchkin, the animation industry deserves better then this.

[@liliththesolarexalted2206]

Even the worst Animated movie is better than the best of the Oscar's self congratulatory rituals.

[@fictionfan0]

Ol' Walt must be rolling in his grave watching several of his company's movies make the nominations only for stuff like this to happen.

[@Rosemont104]

If parents do not want to watch the same dumb kids movie over and over, then they should develop a high-quality media palette and introduce the kids to a variety of good stories made by people who respect their intelligence, even make their kids watch something different every other day so that they learn to like a variety of movies.

[@jimmybanthrall4578]

the hosts for the animation Oscar gave the other Slap to the face.

[@whatalsaid]

I don't think those actresses meant any insult when insinuating that animation is specifically catered towards kids (They're in Disney's payroll). Clearly there's lots of animation catered for adults (Rick & Morty, BoJack Horseman, etc.) But the biggest consumers of animation as a whole are in fact children, and that's not a BAD thing. Content made for kids are PROBABLY better than Content made for adults, because when done right, they can tell a very compelling, rich story without having to rely on "mature" themes, such as blood, sex and swearing. Also, as someone who enjoys very common things (Animation, Marvel Movies, Teen movies from the early 2000s) I kind of HATE it when people try to dictate what is and isn't "CINEMA" Come at me, film snobs, but I'd rather watch Coraline or Mean Girls again than have to sit through Tree of Life or any given Martin Scorsese movie.

[@humblemarty]

To be fair, Animation is way more popular than the Oscars right now. I mostly know this because when I open up the internet and there's more people talking about cartoons, arguing over which decade of cartoons is better, or fanfics. The oscars got known for Jerry Springer drama evolving into a meme.

[@gordontaylor2815]

These issues have been building for years now, it's just the pair of incidents this year have shown that Hollywood can't address the problem with wishful thinking anymore...

[@thespartan-sangheili3224]

Yeah, was kind of awkward having to explain why I was tearing up during Avatar's tales of Ba Sing Sa, Iroh's Tale.

[@mk3a]

From the moment I read "...chinese f*ckin things" regarding Princess Kaguya and Song of the Sea (which are Japanese and Irish-Danish respectively), I stopped taking the Oscars seriously.

[@Merlodica]

Seriously? Did they really call Japanese animation Chinese cartoons?

[@mk3a]

@@Merlodica yes, look it up.

[@tashahemlock8195]

If the Oscars view animation as just kids stuff then the Animated feature award is... Pretty much redundant. I agree with what you said Munchinkin even tho I don't watch the Oscars myself, what those ladies said at the oscars is a big slap.... No... A punch in the face cause it's like your insulting cinema as a whole. If animation is suppose to be regulated to kids and adults have to endure THEN WHY THE F+Yay+k DID THEY MAKE THAT AWARD IN THE FIRST PLACE?! Animation is art and cinema is art. Those in the Oscar need to get their heads out of their asses and appreciate animation as MORE than something kids watch. Cause... Not all animation is for kids like Flee for example. Great vid BTW.

[@caitlinsnowfrost8244]

3:56 Spirited Away also won, beating out *two* Disney movies (Lilo & Stitch and Treasure Planet), plus Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron. And Shrek won the year before over Monsters Inc. Other non-Disney winners include Wallace And Grommit: Curse of the Were-Rabbit, Happy Feet, and Rango.

[@MadMunchkin]

yeh I meant the majority of times its always a disney or pixar movie that wins.

[@thephantommaster3619]

Boo time zone. But man that was shock

[@nickthepick8043]

This was genuinely fun to watch, and informative. Instead of going for the easily discussion of Will Smith's behavior, you got ammo to spare regarding the TRUE problems with the Oscars.

[@mattsa9540]

Those three women somehow made every corporate agree and enforced it

[@ΑΡΙΣΤΟΤΕΛΗΣΛΑΧΑΝΟΠΟΥΛΟΣ]

Judging animated movies based on their rating is stupid in general. If we did do that, we'd have to consider minions, a PG movie, more mature than the likes of Ratatouille and Zootopia

[@Thenumber1yoshi]

The fact that they treat animation as a lesser art form is a big reason why I’m glad they and their fellow award show’s ratings are tanking these days!

[@CrazyCartoonCat12]

The Oscars died out on me years ago, now it's nothing but dust. If anything, most animated movies tend to be more adult than most live action movies.

[@joshuaokoro-sokoh2993]

Honestly it's ignorance like this that makes me glad that they are movies like Perfect Blue, Watership down, Felidae, Sausage Party, Cool World, Padak, and other animated movies that are SO NOT FOR CHILDREN.

[@everywherecommunity3614]

Really, they let their kids watch Wizards, Fritz the Cat, and the South Park movie over and over??? Bad Parents- call 📞 911, call 📞 Child Services!!!

[@blue_wolf24]

I never watch the Oscars. I wouldn't know who almost any one is cause I don't what act is playing who; all I care for is how good the movies and how often I'll see it after the first viewing.

[@EdsonR13]

Do you think they even realized the irony that they all stared in movies that were already seen over and over again before they even started filming

[@n.b.eskerata1678]

I don't pay attention to the oscars or any other awards show for that matter. They bore me silly and I prefer to hunt down interesting animation productions on my own.

[@GreyWolfLeaderTW]

It's particularly rich given the films these girls starred in are considered inferior copies of the original animated works.

[@sharkanenoa5928]

When this was said I thought this would be the worst thing that would happen to animation this year... THIS WAS ONLY THE BEGINNING

[@charonib]

To be fair, the only time most of the people in that theater have to interact with animated films is when they need to put something on to get their victims to stop crying.

[@pikminfan6778]

Ralph Bakshi made Fritz the Cat X-rated to prove a point.

[@SGTSAM101ST]

All the Oscars r is big hollywood studios trying to sell u stuff & copius amounts of propaganda of the times

[@gagefranke6290]

These people do know what Ricky and Morty is, right? Or Arcane? Or Family Guy? Or South Park? Or Invincible? Or Archer? Or Attack on Titan? Or King of the Hill? Or BOJACK FUCKING HORSEMAN?!?!?!?!?!? That's not even close to half of it, but I think I've made my point...

[@Blue-fg8vt]

Can't wait to show my little brother full metal alchemist! I heard theirs a funny dog he will enjoy! Seriously though the tradgity of that scene makes me cry when I even think of it.

[@brucedawes1473]

Wow dude I just realized u still got videos going. It's good to see ur still staying creative

[@Bluemansonic]

Parents that "Endure" cartoons have never been happy

[@Canev821]

People act like some live actions movies don’t watch over and over

[@ravenmacbeth9384]

Live-action remakes of an animated film should not exist and if you don't like animation, you have no business working in the industry. It is already hard enough for animators, animation staff, and professional voice actors to find work, not to mention they barely get paid and are dangerously overworked. And then you have people like this that invalidate all of the time and effort that people who are actually passionate about the craft and are actively working towards better working conditions. It is nearly impossible to improve on a broken system if nobody takes you seriously.

[@leebulger7112]

Honestly, they only Disney remake I like are Jungle Book and Maleficent. Jungle Book because mainly Mogli stays in the jungle which makes sense after what he does in the climax and has more at stake in there because he cannot leave his home.

[@myliege8197]

This year's Oscars wasn't awarding anyone. It was specifically for salty insults.

[@mandryva3979]

I grew up watching mostly Godzilla movies, which I know aren't animated but most were dismissed as kid movies (looking at you Shows era movies), but I remember fondly watching Tom and Jerry movies with my mom as a kid, seeing Saint Seiya alongside my mom and dad, watching reruns of dragon ball with my dad at 1 am in the morning, and later on watching Barbie movies with my younger sisters, falling in love with Rapunzel's story and character, crying my heart out with Inside out. Nowadays I'm nearing 22 and I bond over with my sisters watching anime and sometimes old Godzilla flicks; which I should remark have shown a better father-son relationship between two giant monsters than most modern films have ever done with human actors; so fuck you Hollywood and your stupid "mature" idea of cinema.

[@joshuaokoro-sokoh2993]

Saying that animation is for children is like saying that the Mona Lisa is for children because it's a painting instead of a photograph. It's tone deaf and insulting and arrogant.

[@aguynamelex3146]

To be frank I would be bad mouthing animation if I was in a live-action version that was bad in comparison

[@di7209]

Either way they could’ve had some consideration for the 100s of people who work on animation. Be bitter if you want but damn keep it to yourself

[@aguynamelex3146]

@@di7209 I said that more as a joke, but yeah seriously were they that tone deaf

[@geetadhumane5793]

They just keep on insulting Animation again and again and again...like it is going out of fashion

[@o.r.aproductions8570]

1:42 The audacity!! LOL

[@-A-Hybrid-Skunk-Productions-]

I gotta agree with Maddy. I used to watch the Oscars alot. But so much changed i can no longer really watch it no more. Cept maybe snippets and clips. But just not the whole thing.

[@elizabethk007]

4:00 What you described happened to my sister just this past year. She was crying at the end of Guillermo del Toro’s Pinocchio and my cousin and uncle (who were not even paying attention to the film) laughed at her and said “Why are you crying? It’s just a cartoon.” Animation is not taken seriously by anybody outside of animation fans

[@Kusanagikaiser999]

I'm an adult......and my favorites movies are ALL ANIMATED ones, I watch animated shows, animated films because they make me feel things and lot of emotions, that speech at the Oscars just highlight why I hate the Oscars and I haven't watched a single Oscars in my life, worst the fact that the 3 LIVE ACTION PRINCESSES of Disney talk down to animation in general as KID STUFF is kinda saying in a way why these live action films that most of us hate, are making more money than the classic masterpieces that precede them, it just felt wrong in all the ways, specially with Flee be on the nominations, that felt like an slap, and also the fact that on an award ceremony, own by ABC who is OWN BY DISNEY, presented by 3 current live action Disney princesses, the winner was a DISNEY MOVIE, makes it even worse, and yes Mitchells vs the Machines got robbed, is like we can't have 2 years in a row of any other studio winning this category, had to be DISNEY, OVER AND OVER AND OVER, kinda takes away the hard work of the animators put in Encanto, because you actually rooting for the other underdogs, you know Disney is taking this always, how selfish this company can't be?.....is shocking to me because you will think we PASS THIS......we have shows like ARCANE, hell even kids shows like AVATAR, HILDA, OWL HOUSE, STEVEN UNIVERSE, and there is plenty of ADULT animated shows like CASTLEVANIA or LOVE DEATH AND ROBOTS.....not counting everything done in the east, from literally EVERY ANIME SHOW OR FILM in existence, to the amazing work countries like French and Irish are doing (shout out to Cartoon Saloon and their masterful catalogue of amazing films)....you will think because of all that, that mentality is gone, hell the major money makers in Hollywood now are SUPER HERO FILMS, in essence...KIDS FILMS with Animated scenes (yes all those amazing fights in the DCEU and MCU are animated by animators), so how in hell is this mentality still a curse to this day is beyond me, this and so many reasons more is why I will forever never ever forgive the Oscars, for not even nominated YOUR NAME and a SILENT VOICE in the years those films where electable to be nominated...but BOSS BABY DID, I will never ever watch the Oscars, they don't deserve it, they are OUTDATED at this point, not just in the animation category, they are no longer the gold stander to judge what CINEMA IS............and Animation is indeed...............CINEMA.

[@JacobFiveash]

Agreed. Animation is for everyone.

[@MisterJang0]

Wow, Amy Schumer didn't see any of the movies nominated except for Encanto because she has a toddler? This is a thing that's meant to be funny being said by a professional comedian? That just sounds like something someone would say around the water cooler at work.

[@randolfgarard]

The Oscar’s has been nothing but an hyper expensive circle jerk for the past fifteen years. Sadly the best award goes to the most woke film that nobody has ever seen.

[@KeybladeMasterAndy]

The emperor hasn't had clothes in years.

[@chasformer3091]

Of course the people talking shit about animated movies would be in live action remakes.

[@RainbowGale]

I think you cried for the same reason I cried when E.T. died when I was a child. Because it was a very emotional moment. In my case it was just so sad I couldn’t help it. In your case with Beauty and the Beast I’m guessing they were tears of joy, because the movie had a very emotional happy ending. Just a guess though.

[@MadMunchkin]

I know that it was an emotional moment, that was clear. I know the surface level of the why. I am always digging deeper into the why.

[@ZELtheIrken]

Yup. Can confirm that I a soon to be 32 year old person with a baby am indeed a child and still watch animated films without him. Not only do these types of things hurt animation as a whole but they completely gloss over adult animated series. Shame on all the people saying such things but especially to anyone from a live action remake of an animated movie. I hope Disney executives see this and put a kibosh on this sort of thing. ETA: The live action versions of the films are garbage and wouldn’t exist if the animated versions didn’t.

[@odinoco]

There's nothing I could say that I haven't said before, or that you didn't mention in this video, the lack of respect that people who work in the industry have towards one of the most important mediums is not unexpected, but it does make me sad sometimes, because what can the future of cinema be, if *these* people are the ones at the helm of the ship?

[@jdawson7877]

seriously the oscars are the ones who need to grow up there acting like those teenagers who don't watch and trash animation because they think not liking animation makes them look mature.

[@DVDandFilmBloke]

There's a reason I never take the Oscars seriously, all they care about is if a movie ticks the right boxes and if the right movie comes out at the right time regardless of quality. At the end of the day the Oscars mean nothing and very few best picture winners are actually memorable and, you know actually good. They have gotten better, for example in 2019 the first non-English language film won best picture but they have a lot more work to do. I know animation is not a genre (it doesn't even fit the definition of a genre for a start) but it reminds me of how certain genres and types of movies are ignored by the Oscars. I mean not one science fiction film has won best picture (although 14 were nominated) and only 6 horror films were ever nominated for best picture (although out of those 6 some would fit more into the thriller category). Interesting fact, at the 1991 Oscars Beauty and the Beast lost best picture to The Silence of the Lambs which is a horror film so I guess 1991 was the year the Oscars went outside their comfort zone (Plus I personally prefer Silence of the Lambs over Beauty and the Beast but hey, that's just an opinion). Also many blockbusters are ignored, and while I can agree most blockbusters are crap or at least entertaining at best there are many that have stood the test of time and are regarded as classics (Back to the Future and Die Hard should have been at least nominated), also a fair amount of obscure and challenging films are ignored, I mean Talk Radio deserved the Oscar more than Rain Man, but Talk Radio didn't tick the right boxes and no one went to see it back in 1988 (yes I have a bias against Rain Man).

[@KingdomHeartsBrawler]

The way I see it, the fact that there's even a specific "animated" category goes to show how badly the Academy disrespects animation. Animation is not a "genre"; it's a MEDIUM. It's a style of filmmaking used to make a movie, just like live-action, or motion capture, or what have you. It doesn't matter what form the movie takes - a movie is a movie is a movie. As long as the Oscars retain a specific category to coop up animation in, it will never receive the respect it deserves in the West. Bottom line, this is why anime is better (and I'm no weeb). The Japanese actually respect animation and their output freaking SHOWS it. NOT IN A MILLION YEARS will Western animation have something like Neon Genesis Evangelion, at least, not in the current climate.

[@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr]

Japanese voice actors and actors aren’t pretentious douchebags like voice actors and actors are in the West, so that’s yet another reason on why anime and manga are outselling comics and cartoons in the West nowadays.

[@dariushcreates]

I’m sadly not surprised by how pathetically awful Oscars treated Animation this year. Animation is what carried the industry through pandemic and this is how they repay them?

[@CalliopePony]

It's funny that I watched this video now, because I just got home from babysitting my nephew, and I showed him Beauty and the Beast. He snuggled up to me on the couch, and we had a wonderful time sharing the movie together.

[@onepresence9460]

For the next years, i will just keep watching The Annie Awards instead of the Oscars, because at least they treat animation with respect.

[@yoshifan3077]

that's why I never really liked the Oscars award they really don't care about animation no more

[@DalexTexas12]

The animation bashing is tiresome. This whole vibe of "Cartoons for Kids Only" argument is presented in bad faith. In my 30+ years residing on Planet Earth I have seen many of animated films and live action films and the cinema that I will always go to when I have free time and want to watch something I will go to my streaming services or DVD collection and what I will watch is literally ANYTHING that has the Henson name attached to it. That family has shaped my life, Sesame Street in my early years during the day, evenings watching the Muppet Show, Saturday mornings with Muppet Babies, and being scared out of my mind when watching the early scenes of Dark Crystal and Labyrinth. However, the biggest show in my life was created on the premise to "Stop All Wars" with Fraggle Rock. The KZbin channel Defunctland Did an entire series about Jim Henson and co from Teenage years with Sam and Friends and the Wilcons Coffee ads to his Early departure of the world of the living. If a Pig and a Frog's Wedding can make NATIONAL NEWS then Animation IS Cinema and the Academy (along with the MPAA) needs to change for the future and stop trying to keep everything locked in the past.