How 'Disney Adults' Are Destroying Disney

Woah! It's time for another video here on Mr. Cow! And this one totally wasn't delayed because of one of my external drives dying while editing! And speaking of dying, we're talking about Disney today! Remember Disney? They used to make movies and stuff about things and stuff would happen. Now Disney is mostly focused on reheating the same old bowl of stew over and over again to milk their core fan base. Who is Disney's core fanbase you ask? It's Disney Adults! What are Disney Adults? I'm not allowed to say here because it's TOO DISTURBING FOR TEXT BASED MEDIA. Not really but I have to make sure people watch the video. In fact I'm not even entirely sure if people read descriptions anymore so I kind of just write whatever I want. I remember this one time in highschool I had a teacher who would check our notes, and I would just right a bunch of sloppy nonsense about nothing and he fell for it everytime. I did not do well in school.
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[@henryblake6227]

In 2070 they'll start making animated versions of their live action movies. Can you imagine how great it'll be when we get an animated Lion King, or Mulan. I for one can't wait

[@Luvs2spwge-xu6rd]

But ofc it’ll be 3d animated! And still worse then the og!

[@benceszarvas5464]

​@@Luvs2spwge-xu6rd Or will be a puppet version

[@dylanwalker7006]

starring Chris Pratt as Robert Downey Junior

[@CrazyPan9000]

@@dylanwalker7006 I can already imagine Mufasa of course being played by Chris Pratt, he's so cool

[@HitTheFloor16]

@@CrazyPan9000bro they're gonna make Chris Pratt the new little mermaid 😭

[@misseli1]

I once read somewhere that if you want to recapture your childhood, the best way to do so is to experience *new things,* not revisit the things you knew as a kid. As a child you were constantly exposed to brand new things. Obsessively revisiting the same things is counterproductive to experiencing that wonder.

[@blondbraid7986]

I think it's part of the anti-intellectualism brought on by social media algoritms; people aren't encouraged to explore and seek out things n their own, instead they get an endless stream of slop based on their and their peers previous likes.

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

I agree, but if I want to recapture my childhood, then I'll just rewatch the movies I grew up with. I have no interest in the new sequels and reboots they keep making.

[@Joawlisdoingfine]

I did that when I watched cartoons with my brother New Ones! Just around covid...

[@princesspikachu3915]

It’s called “nostalgia” dude.

[@ZoraCatone]

@@misseli1 That's what we're trying to do. The suits are the ones assuming we want the same things repackaged over and over.

[@Mimikkyudayo]

Kind of ironic how Lilo and Stitch is the safe print money option when the original film had to be made in secret as the creators knew executives would have shot it down for being risky if presented too early. The films history is pretty much a lesson on creating new stuff and giving artist creative freedom while taking risk and now it gets a live action remake.

[@Maxler5795]

I heard someone say something that resonates a lot with me. Every franchise, every milk cow sucked dried, always, ALWAYS, starts as an original idea.

[@brainrich1358]

I wouldn't say "full creative freedom." Sometimes too many ideas can ruin a good thing. I would say "creativity with some limits." Like the saying goes, "Limitations can breed creativity."

[@nicolasbolas2247]

Disney finally realized their audience isn't children, its disney adults.

[@Jose04537]

And that audience is not going to live forever.

[@archdornan3694]

they’re just really old children

[@luisgabrielramos7923]

I mean, with that mentality, they are still kids

[@youngshmurda4233]

@@Jose04537which ones will?

[@princessmarlena1359]

Disney Adult-Children

[@dmanthemememan4475]

If you wanna hate watch something, pirate it. 🏴‍☠️

[@geministrial950]

This! Browsers with ad-blockers are so easy to get nowadays, i'm surprised people are still paying to watch anything

[@jakeford12]

Noted (maniacal laughter intensifies)

[@dirkechoes1377]

Yo ho, yo ho a Pirate's life for me

[@AnimatedTerror]

Do what you want cause a pirate is free! YOU ARE A PIRATE! 🏴‍☠️

[@AmberCommentsThings]

@@AnimatedTerror HARR HARR FIDDLEY-DEE

[@TheTundraTerror]

I'll never get over that one reddit post in r/AITA where some Disney Adult admitted to using the money given to her by her family for catering and spending it on Mickey and Minnie mascots. Also, I feel really bad for kids considering how pretty much everything marketing to them is either slop or reheated slop from the back of the fridge. If you're under the age of 12, you have nothing original to call your own.

[@markanderson7236]

Pretty much. Generation Alpha hasn't experienced cinematic events on the scale of those enjoyed by earlier generations, such as the Infinity Saga, for example.

[@WingedFish66]

@@markanderson7236 They're too busy having their brains rotted out from content farms on their ipads (that were given to them at birth no less) to notice or care

[@AchyParts]

​@@markanderson7236Well they have Skibidi Toilet 💀

[@TobyOliverHenryFan]

Yes, they do. They have this incredibly unoriginal era to begrudgingly call their own. But your comment made me think about the poor children of these "Disney Adults".

[@MTC-hy6ig]

​@@AchyParts good enough

[@3dsfan2002]

It’s so weird that kids in this generation are going to grow up with these sequels without having any knowledge of their predecessors unless their parents put them on on Disney plus or something

[@jackfreedman9678]

On the bright side, I'm fairly confident that a lot of the live-action stuff will fade into obscurity on Disney Plus.

[@samfeldstein4498]

or even worse they will have only seen the live actions remakes and not the original animated films

[@MTC-hy6ig]

Don't worry they got skibidi toilet 💪

[@ethandtheangryenglishguy8253]

That’s generation Alpha for you really

[@3dsfan2002]

@@ethandtheangryenglishguy8253 glade I’m not part of that generation

[@mitchellbambam5926]

“So this is how liberty dies; with thunderous applause.” -Quote from a Star Wars movie, a decade before Disney bought the franchise.

[@TheDooOver-ee9gf]

Disney buying Star Wars made me dislike them.

[@thedeadlylama6061]

Ironically its because of Star wars adults that George sold Star wars so the correlation is there

[@darthgamer9861]

@@thedeadlylama6061b-b-but the complainer is always right! pfff. I will never forgive the prequels haters for they encouraged to happen.

[@MTC-hy6ig]

Hi blitzwing

[@Skrillmast3r]

Fr

[@coolthings_1]

Toy Story 3 was the perfect ending for the franchise, about letting go of childhood/the things you love and being fond of the memories built through time and creating new ones. How ironic of Disney and the Disney Adults begging for another sequel to the story

[@johnparis4434]

It’s Disney’s one never fail series, their “break glass in emergency.” They use it whenever they need it lol. What are we on now, Toy Story 6(I don’t follow Disney news)

[@eatatjoes6751]

@@johnparis4434 5. The sixth one will be out most likely after that.

[@halkon4412]

Cringe, give me evil Buzz AI dystopia story now pls lololol

[@Lakeside80]

Yeah, each movie had a strong theme. 3 being a perfect ending for moving on. 4 is ok, it really was unnecessary, but you could argue there is still some theme there. Like the aftermath of moving on, becoming independent, finding new horizons. But the 5th one's theme seems to be 'don't use technology in excess'? Doesn't fit with the overall narrative at all.

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

​@@Lakeside80Toy Story 4 works against what the previous films did. It actively undoes what the previous films had set up. It didn't need to be made.

[@ZeepAtomic]

While Disney fans get showered with needless sequels and remakes, Warner Bros fans get the movies they're looking forward to dumped in the trash as a tax write-off. Man, Hollywood is hell on earth right now.

[@mattkugelman4369]

Honestly I think the only way to stop this is get executives to remember they aren’t gods

[@starstorm1267]

Hollywood has honestly always been hell on the earth. It was once tolerable when writers had more freedom, but now it seems to have gotten worse since companies started treating their writers like trash

[@mattkugelman4369]

@@starstorm1267 well problem the people in charge have become even greedier than before, they’ve become more tight-wadded and restrictive ever since they found out that general audiences will buy anything so long as they cater to either their nostalgia and/or popular ip

[@quangamershyguyyz7166]

Hmmmm, maybe being a Disney fan isn’t so bad after all

[@JudgeDunfeeTheParkitecter]

Warner Bros, I think is at least being careful of what they release and make everything they touch, even the slightly overrated Barbie, real gold. They know what trash they must throw out and what good must be released. Paramount is doomed and done. Disney is making a comeback. Universal is doing okay with their movies but way better with the parks. Star Wars and Marvel shall never be the same.

[@BBAANNAANNAA1]

When you cancel your disney + and hulu account you have to cancel twice. The first cancel button acts as just a pause. Fyi

[@LegendOfKitty]

My poverty had a silver lining. I was too poor for streaming services, so I never got Disney+ or Hulu to worry about their predatory terms and conditions. Still, thank you very much for sharing this info. It'll help a lot of people.

[@roythousand13]

😂

[@emmanuelchavez7748]

Apparently that gave the CEO a standing ovation, which is insane cause during the strike he'd rather let them starve than have a deal

[@ericnierstedt6242]

Well, remember, these are the fans not the actual workers. They don’t get affected by what he does.

[@ohboy-zi1yf]

i assure you that the actual workers are not happy about the current creative direction of disney, having original projects abandoned and opportunities squandered for the sake of pumping out as much pandering schlock as possible

[@AuraLeafstorm]

I hope the current generation of kids aren't being exposed to the live-action remakes before being shown the originals. Can you imagine a whole generation of people being nostalgic for the live-action remakes 10 years from now?

[@kobayashi1194]

The thought of kids today looking at the Live Action remakes of these movies more positively than the original animated remakes because they were shown it first by their idiot parents honestly keeps me up at night.

[@kathyhenry9512]

As a parent of a 3yo. I don't even turn on the live action for my kid, I give her the old animated classics and she loves them. I feel like most parents will gravitate to the stuff they loved rather than the remakes they didn't care for

[@Lakeside80]

Kids prefer colorful cartoons, guaranteed. They're gonna enjoy the originals much more than the bland lifeless live action remakes. Like put the original Lion King next to the remake as a choice, they will fall asleep within the first 5 minutes of the remake. They want the colorful, fun and bombastic original cartoons. Disney really tried to sell this fake narrative the remakes are for 'a new generation'. Absolutely not, it's been nostalgia for adults since the beginning.

[@theguyfromtsukihime3898]

The only one that gets a small pass is the Cinderella live action it's start is pretty decent along with the few additional stuff they added

[@AuraLeafstorm]

@@theguyfromtsukihime3898 I also recall thinking that the Aladdin and Jungle Book live-action remakes were decent too, so I suppose two or three of the remakes are passably enjoyable films on their own (when not actively comparing them to their original animated counterparts). Two or three is not a very good track record though, considering they've released about 20 so far and the majority of them are insultingly bad. And, at least in Aladdin's case, despite thinking that the remake was fine I'd still rather watch the animated version over it any day. The issue is the vast majority of these films didn't need to be remade in the first place. Aside from profiting off of nostalgia bait, it also insinuates that Disney thinks the originals are now outdated. Converting all of these stories to live-action is inherently insulting to the medium of animation - particularly traditional animation, which they don't even do anymore. Not to mention the fact that the majority of these remakes fumble in so many ways that it makes you appreciate how well done the originals were by comparison.

[@BrendanPappas]

I’m legitimately not kidding, that still of the Snow White remake reminded me of those super creepy 3D real-life renders of SpongeBob and Patrick. I can’t see how anybody would want to stare at that for an hour and a half.

[@SuperFlashDriver]

If you think that's bad, imagine having nightmares back in the 2000s with cartoon characters that made you feel a bit scared on the inside, and then they come to life in your bedroom being so uncanny realistic that they attempt to decapitate your head.....Yeah, that was me back in the 2000s......

[@WoodwindBuddies]

It’s also weirdly dark and bright at the same time and way too sparkly. The trailer is shot like a horror or thriller movie for some reason. There are scary things in 1937 Snow White like the spooky forest, but it’s not a horror movie at its core. Also the costuming choices are questionable. There are many cute coifs and Snow White dresses they could’ve given Zegler. I just hope the actors/actresses participating get to star in better projects with more care and thought put into them. Godspeed to them.

[@sealy1]

Fr what the fuck am I looking at

[@Its_hoekin_time]

8:07 funnily enough Disney confirmed that hunchback of notre dame was one of the only franchise off the table for a live action remake because the current ceo doesn’t like that movie apparently

[@goddessofchaos7754]

Ironically, that's one of the few Disney movies that would for a great live action

[@colbystearns5238]

I’m glad he doesn’t like it because he’s just going to eviscerate it like all the rest.

[@sketchytwin113]

THANK GOODNESS MY BOY QUASIMODO IS SAVED!!!!!!

[@IvannaRuizAgramonte]

Saved by the bell

[@IvannaRuizAgramonte]

​@goddessofchaos7754 eh... I would beg to differ.

[@Lakeside80]

Why is stitch so grey blue? They do know vibrant blue animals exist? Also, he's an alien, you can make him more colorful. I know the lighting he's in for the teaser is cold because he's in a white room, but I have a feeling he will be in cold lighting regardless. Even though it's set in Hawaii, a famously warmly lit place. Now I honestly prefer the idea of him having a completely different live action design. Regardless, it's gonna be garbage.

[@lazyhippie6139]

But since it's realistic, it has to be dull to look at.

[@Alf-gm7tf]

I can’t imagine how terrifying jumba is gonna look

[@ghoulthedamned]

So this is how Disney dies...with thunderous applause.

[@g1gabytez]

Ok but "Slaves to the Mouse" would go hard as a heavy metal band

[@JonathanGaeta]

It actually does. Imagine the lyrics

[@pennysanchez7656]

Just because you love Disney doesn't mean that you blindly accept everything the company does because they say so. I adore Disney for being a storyteller and being original (thanks to Disney TVA and WDAS), rather than being the one running the money. Disney is pretty much like a friend who just become an alcoholic. You used to have fond memories with them, but now they pretty much stopped caring and rather focus on something soulless as it becomes a shadow of its former self. Point being, I just hate what they have become recently… Disney in general (its classic animated films, their TV animation branch, and a select few of its old live-action films) has had a very special place in my heart.

[@Uhwatchdogsforthewiiu]

Same when they put it to it Disney makes amazing movies and shows but they don’t care about the people that care for good well entertainment they only care about people that don’t do anything’s with there lives and obsess over a goddamn FUCKING MOUSE a fictional rodent people dedicate their lives too

[@pennysanchez7656]

@NolanTHEfoodie It reminds me of those Nintendo fans where they pretty much dedicate their lives by doing nothing but constantly praise Nintendo for EVERYTHING. I know I kinda worded it poorly but I think you can get from what I am saying.

[@Uhwatchdogsforthewiiu]

@@pennysanchez7656yeah it really does remind of those I just hate those kind of people and hates a strong word like how can you think a large company with billions in assets is the most down to earth thing for you hmmmm?

[@txwtw]

@@Uhwatchdogsforthewiiu hold up they actually obsess over the…mouse?

[@pennysanchez7656]

@@txwtw I mean, the video literally explained right there.

[@arigangan]

Disney, and mainstream media in general, is becoming so dystopian. It's just depressing

[@los5039-l9c]

Yup, it only gets worse from here.

[@tyujg7495.]

Nah we already live in a dystopia

[@future8772]

@@los5039-l9c we should unalive ourselfves and hope next lifetime is better

[@los5039-l9c]

@@future8772 Ik right lol, sometimes it does feel like that.

[@thatspookagain4030]

​@@future8772I one hundred percent agree! You first.

[@misseli1]

Disney's parks are suffering for this too. I haven't been to the parks in years but I've seen videos about how old attractions are routinely being torn down and being replaced with attractions based on more recent movies for the sake of brand integration. Characters who were original to the parks are being replaced by more popular film characters for nostalgia's sake.

[@JonathanGaeta]

I went to Disneyland in 2022 and I haven’t gone back since. Like it’s completely different than how it was when I went a lot as a child in the 2000’s and early 2010’s as a teen. It’s quite sad what it has become, but people pay to go, and by people I’m not talking about average families, I’m talking Disney Adults and Disney influencers as they have hijacked the parks.

[@trevorwhitham6742]

Last time I went to Disney and probably the only time was when lights motors action was still a thing

[@whitneymouse]

Girl, just say you’re mad about Splash 🙄 it’s not about “brand integration”. It’s about being based on a racist movie the studio doesn’t want to be associated with. They renovated plenty of old attractions without tearing them down.

[@YvonneHoerde]

Well.... I think. that is the opposite. For example, if no one remembers the old Snow White, why not replace. it with a Frozen attraction? It is just the old folks that do not like it because it was not THEIR childhood.

[@YvonneHoerde]

@@JonathanGaeta The problem with new.Disney here is the insane prices. Even middle class families struggle to afford. the prices there. It might be even cheaper to do a whole trip to Europe in the states than to do a trip to Disney even if you live close to it. Disney must get a bit more down to Earth with its prices if they want to become family friendly again.

[@txag007]

This is what happens when you let a weatherman run a company that needs to rely on creativity.

[@TweetsieRailroader]

Hey, so... I'm a massive Disney Fan. It's one of my special interests, and trust me: I'm not happy with the direction of the company either. We've entered an era of creative stagnation for the company. Not just with the movies, but also, with the parks. Disney's less concerned about creating unique, original stories that resonate with people (Or even just adapting a Fairy Tale they haven't done yet), and more about making that bottom dollar, which, yes, is important, but a lot of the creativity the company was known for is lost, and that genuinely makes me sad. I love the Disney brand, but I do not like the Disney company. I may love Disney, but I refuse to be a shill for them.

[@mwelite1706]

I can genuinely respect Disney fans like you, OP. I remember seeing a disney shill outright say that Mulan 2020 filming near concentration camps was “wasn’t so bad.” so Disney fans like you that can criticize them are a godsend. (By the way I used to be a Disney fannbut after Mulan 2020) I started boycotting them. Not saying you have too as well)

[@TobyOliverHenryFan]

You've obviously learnt that nostalgia isn't everything and isn't blinded by it. Unlike a lot of other Disney fans.

[@happilyevanafter]

This is exactly how i feel. I LOVE Walt Disney the man and Walt Disney's versions of the parks and the company. But i CANNOT STAND what bob iger has done to the parks and the company. Its sad and disgusting to see what this once great company has become.

[@cefrinaldi8060]

Same, i grew up watching disney movie like donald, mickey, goofy, mulan, aladdin, toy story and many more. I love old disney but i refuse to associate with whatever evil company they have became today.

[@bluegold1026]

@@TobyOliverHenryFanNostalgia is one helluva drug. It's good every now and then but too much of it is gonna cause problems.

[@kishiberohan7955]

When I think of die hard fans harming franchises, Pokémon immediately comes to mind. Seriously, they will buy the shittiest product imaginable and defend it to the death (and I’m sadly part of that problem).

[@johnparis4434]

Dude we could have had monster hunter joker 2 animations. Instead we got Pokémon 😭 (look up monster hunter 2 all giants) Every monster has animations for same moves. Instead we got standard animation slop

[@IceFireofVoid]

At the same time, I think a substantial portion of western Pokemon fans are hyper fixated on negativity and go out of their way to blow every flaw of everything out of proportion for the sake of saying everything new is bad, while willfully ignoring any problems with older entries in the franchise, blinded by nostalgia. And yet they still continue to buy the games. And play the games. Because they like the games. But liking the games is unpopular in western online forums currently, so they have to pretend they hate it, regurgitating the same 3 or 4 popular talking points without being able to actually articulate what any of it means. It's a really really weird dynamic.

[@kishiberohan7955]

@@IceFireofVoid oh the older games aren’t great either. Generation 1 especially comes to mind here. IMO Pokémon was at its creative peak from Platinum to B2W2. Violet does have moments of whimsy (unlike sword 🤮) but the fact that it’s blatantly unfinished really holds it back from being great, which is an absolute shame.

[@IceFireofVoid]

@kishiberohan7955 The one that really gets me is people saying HG/SS were peak or S tier and I just do not get it. The games set in the Johto region are so so so bad in so many ways. Is Pokemon following you and one cool post-game fight really all it takes for people to praise it?

[@IceFireofVoid]

@user-lr7cc8iu3m Honestly the best way to do it. Online spaces get so toxic and ruin the enjoyment of things more often than not. Also so many Redditors/youtubers will go out of their way to bash a piece of media while making it extremely obvious they haven't seen/read/played it. Steven Universe was one of the worst for that. Toxic fandom, toxic hatedom.

[@casualdork6661]

Velma got a season 2 because Hulu ordered enough episodes to be split into two seasons from the start. It had nothing to do with hate watching, and its common practice to greenlight episodes and then split them into two seasons to keep people engaged with shows.

[@ZX-Gear]

Acolyte.

[@tacticianAlexandra]

@@ZX-Gear That live action. Which is not animation. Animation, it common to order up x number of episodes at once. Given how long it normally takes to create. Then it if it does well. Order more episodes to be created. Which given I have not heard of any more episodes of Velma being created. The op is likely in the right. That they order a large number of episodes and simply split them into two seasons. For something like he-man, it season one was 65 episodes. Velam season one and two are both the same episode count, at a mere ten. With such a low episode count. It only seems more likely, they split up the episodes into two seasons.

[@Unhingeddirtdog]

I think they did this for cuphead🙁

[@CarbonatedGravy]

Animation in particular kinda needs to do this because they reuse a lot of the framework, so if you invest in making it in the first place it’s pretty cheap after that. Basically standard if the show is a failure it gets canceled after season 2

[@venomousbunny9875]

So a Disney Adult is like the western equivalent of an Otaku?

[@squiddopop]

I mean anime was directly inspired by Disney so...

[@Uhwatchdogsforthewiiu]

Yes It is,it’s exactly the same

[@Quinn-he3vn]

​@@squiddopopNo, it wasn't 😭 Ya'll really can't accept non-Americans having their own thing can you

[@squiddopop]

@@Quinn-he3vn Astro Boy's style literally reflects that of Mickey Mouse It only takes like a 6 second google search to figure this out

[@Nick-ue7iw]

It literally is, some of the OG animators were inspired by Disney works, iirc one of them worked on dalmatians. Y'all just can't accept that America has given birth, directly or indirectly, to a lot of great things.

[@theotherjared9824]

Disney relies on "once in a lifetime" park visits with big families. Since they likely don't have lots of time and don't do tons of research, the parents will end up throwing around as much money as it takes to keep things running smoothly. Same principle goes for theatres and merchandise. Disney adults are smart enough to figure out how to exploit the system to get the most for the least. Disney obviously doesn't want that, but can't really tell them to go away either, so the only thing to do is disincentivize them by changing how the system works, degrading their business model even more until everyone leaves and never comes back.

[@paichni3474]

Imagine some sad animator who achieved their dream of working at disney. Spent years of their lives studying only to be told they have to work on the snow white 3 remake hd live action version or whatever.

[@trashman11]

Disney itself is killing Disney

[@NikoNikolaia]

This is all based on Disney’s laziness, inability to take risks and the egos apart of any of their projects. They can’t never be wrong, and if anyone stands against them or warn them why this isn’t a smart idea gets shunned and quiet out. This is a systematic problem Disney has had. They disregard their own rules and themes to make whatever they want.

[@ohno5559]

Disney adults have an outsize presence on social media but there's no way there's enough of them to be the primary economic force behind Disney's market strategy. Most likely Disney is unoriginal for the same reason most big companies are, which is that name recognition boosts sales in basically every case. Sure, that affects the core "Disney adults" but it also affects parents who remember something from their childhood and want to share it with their kids, or even childless adults who aren't necessarily hardcore Disney fans but are willing to see something because it's nostalgic to them and because Disney/Pixar has a reputation for appealing to all ages (something that's been damaged in recent years). I don't like what Disney is doing, and the presence of Disney adults makes it more annoying for sure, but this isn't some completely unique phenomenon. We see it everywhere, it's just what happens when capitalism intersects with art.

[@calebbridges4748]

This. Gonna block the channel here because the take of the video is wildly, ignorantly unfounded. It's simply not what's happening.

[@TheTundraTerror]

Found the Disney Adult.

[@eatatjoes6751]

@@calebbridges4748 *groans*

[@BrandonPilcher]

Not to mention that much of the current trend with Disney is happening under Bob Iger's watch. All the Disney CEOs have let the profit motive drive them to one extent or the other, but Iger in particular seems hellbent on emphasizing it over creativity and what audiences actually want.

[@JumboDS64]

@@calebbridges4748 It's simply that a special conclusion like this is more tantalizing than the more realistic conclusion of it not being so different from what's already been happening. It's a common pitfall

[@BadGuyRants]

You’re a fool if you’re embarrassed as an adult to like the stuff Walt Disney made. His animation was made for people who had grown up, lived life and could rediscover that innocence they once had! Now it’s just man babies.

[@Uhwatchdogsforthewiiu]

Yep the mouse is feeding all of his little adult babies

[@Nick-ue7iw]

Snow White was made for adults anyway. "Children's movie" wasn't a thing until after WWII. Same with looney toons, they were meant for adults not kids, kids found them enjoyable, but they were not the target audience.

[@leonardo899]

@@Uhwatchdogsforthewiiu Google adult babies, there are many of us. We love wearing diapers.

[@Butwhythough881]

It’s also worth noting that Mickey Mouse’s Steamboat Willie initially premiered before a gangster movie called Gang War. You know… FOR KIDS!

[@samuelharris2848]

I avoid anything Disney as much as possible and have for about 10 years. I noticed a theme when they started acquiring other studios. The best way I can describe it is, they were trying to monopolize nostalgic entertainment. I felt really uncomfortable letting 1 company control so much of my childhood entertainment. I intentionally avoid it so that my kids don't grow up with Disney as such a large part of their childhood.

[@pedecadonstudios714]

Finally. Sanity and integrity. Thank you.

[@Waffletigercat]

Incredibles 2 was such utter garbage that I have no interest in a third movie, despite how much I love the first one.

[@hollytheanimalcrossingfan]

So you're telling me if I want to watch it, wait for it to air on freeform?

[@Waffletigercat]

@@hollytheanimalcrossingfan Personally, I'd recommend saving yourself two hours and just never watching it.

[@PatriceBlaisdell-g4m]

I loved the 1 and second movie becuase I'm a child

[@Cuber875]

Imo Incredibles 2 was just "meh", it wasn't trash and still decently enjoyable, but a massive letdown from 1 being one of the best superhero movies ever. That's why I'm quite skeptical about Incredibles 3.

[@killgoretrout877]

also 18 years too late. Seriously it was the one Disney movie that needed a sequel and was demanded from the fans nope. But you can have 4 cars movies and 3 spin offs about planes no one watchedd

[@qliphalpuzzle5453]

Even tho I grew up watching Lilo and Stitch stuff; I’m too cynical to watch the live action

[@slivorywings2821]

Ditto, I loved animated Lilo and Stitch. I did try the live action one, and I didn't finish it.

[@slivorywings2821]

I'll watch a live action movie, but most of the time, Animation wins

[@Zombiezay]

Lilo and stitch is one of my favorite movies ever It’s one of the first movies I sat down and actually watched as a kid….. I’ll never watch the live action

[@salmoncakesremix]

As much of a fan of classic Disney movies and rides as I am, I too am exhausted by Bob Iger’s motive to rehash old IPs into soulless remakes. It says something when a hand drawn animated film from the 1940s or a boat ride from the 1960s still continue to leave a stronger impact than the multimillion dollar productions they keep announcing at D23. I’ll stick to original classics, thank you very much.

[@PeterPan54167]

Personally I’m a man child and all of the Disney pandering is insulting to my intelligence. I want House of Mouse on Disney + damn it, not Toy Story 8!

[@demo2823]

And I want more renaissance-like movies that are double layered for both a child and adult to enjoy. But instead they are going for shallow entertainment with a vague semblance of edginess to claim they covered adults.

[@Unhingeddirtdog]

Holy shit, house of mouse isnt on disney plus? This is actually so stupid😞

[@LucasCaminha]

I was about to say I'm kinda sad that the premise of Zootopia 2 sounds really interesting, and that a broken clock is right twice a day, so when they throw so much shit at the wall to see if it sticks, something's bound to... But then I remembered Disney's a heartless megacorporation, so I can just (find alternative ways to watch) their stuff without remorse. That is the morally correct way to do it.

[@kylemorello4787]

Honestly, I'm a Disney adult, and I'm not looking forward to anything in the thumbnail. Well, as far as uncanny photorealistic CG critters go, Stitch looks okay. He could've looked worse. He at least is as expressive as a '"real alien" could be. But that is DEFINITELY not a high bar. And watching a dumbed down retread of Disney's biggest 2000s masterpiece isn't gonna be on my to-do list just to watch a decently animated hybrd. Nor is watching a prequel to a version of The Lion King no one likes. And Robert Doomey Jr has convinced me that the MCU has officially lost its mind.

[@pofuno]

Keep away from kids you creep

[@Maskof_Infamy]

I’m not reading all of that

[@randomtinypotatocried]

After seeing the anime/manga series for Lilo and Stitch a few years ago, I no longer feel anything with the Lilo and Stitch property. I just wish we could get a break from live action Disney movies for atleast a year or two. It feels like Disney didn't learn their lesson with the whole live action remakes

[@Disisdabeast]

I agree with all of that except RDJ as Dr Doom because yeah ofc it's incredibly desperate. That's very apparent. However It has the potential to be VERY interesting so I'm going to let them cook with that one and just wait for it to come out before I shit on it.

[@kylemorello4787]

@@Disisdabeast fair enough.

[@magentapotatoes7891]

What's funny to me is how the Lilo and stitch reveal has stitch literally curse some obscene alien slur to the audience. Like, that's the line stitch said that made the alien council vomit, and he just yells it at the audience and everyone loved it. I fear they will forget the powerful scary evil gremlin stitch is and stick too close to the cutesy koala dog stitch and make him super dumb or something.

[@radical_rat]

I think it's a mistake to blame "Disney Adults" for the current state of Disney. The kind of people being described here will literally take anything Disney puts in front of them, and I don't think there's really enough of them to actually be the main source of income, even if they are very loud about it. Rather, I think the opposite is the case. Disney is leaning into remakes and franchises and nostalgia not to appeal to their already rabid audience who would buy a mouse-shaped shit on the floor, but to try to rope in people who've "aged out" of Disney and trying to rope them back in. Though the solution is still of course "stop buying it," Disney Adults are a symptom of the underlying greed and laziness, not the cause of it.

[@mandyjones2804]

I have respectfully disagree with this take. Akin to the single-digit percentage of whales that keep freemium mobile games and dying MMOs alive, Disney has a ludicrous amount of luxury merchandise and even McMansions (see: Disney Golden Oak™) that only the richest among us can afford. There are wedding packages that /start/ at upwards of $30,000USD. Don’t even get started on the Swarovski crystal figurines they market as “rare”, with pricetags in the thousand of dollars, even coming with “Certificates of Authenticity” that thickly lay on the feeling of luxury with their limited edition numbering system. However, the most damning evidence for Disney’s whale hunting is the tooth-achingly phony ~super secret~ exclusive, invite only luxury “Club 33” (that they definitely totally try to keep a secret, trust me bro), which not only has a $25,000 entry fee, but a $15,000 annual renewal fee…And a waiting list for just an *invite* that cast members rumor is almost *ten years long*. I’ll give you this one however- the Mouse wants every dollar it can get, and the extremely wealthy whales aren’t the only source of blubber around. They were clever enough to start making virtual Skinner boxes to draw in “Classic Whales” if you will, those that will pay and pay and pay out the nose for extra lives for just another match-three Bejeweled clone that’s a dime a dozen nowadays… But omg, it has Mickey Mouse on it!

[@PyxeledGenesis]

Mostly agree, but Disney adults are definitely fueling it too. SOMEONE had to watch those live actions to make them money, otherwise they'd have stopped. It's definitely not the kids choosing to watch them, and it's not the people who want Disney to succeed. It's grown people desperately suckling the teat of a long dead franchise that couldn't give a mouse's ass about them🤷‍♂️

[@jimmyhoffa5063]

12:11 sorry but this is a common misconception that just personally irritates me: Velma didn’t get a second season because of hatewatching, it was ALWAYS going to get a second season because they ordered two seasons worth of content at the start. Animation takes a while so studios typically order two seasons off the bat so that if the show turns out to be success they won’t risk losing that momentum in the second season by adding another year between seasons due to production time (this is especially true if the show is based off a pre-existing IP), and if it fails, well they have more filler for their catalog. It was always going to happen and any views hatewatching gave it had a negligible effect. Seriously, if the hatewatching actually made it successful then you’d think WB wouldn’t have just dumped the entire second season at once with zero promotion, wouldn’t they?

[@lavenderladida]

This video perfectly highlights why I clarify that while I like a lot of Disney works and have a few collectibles, I am an adult who likes Disney (some of it at least) NOT a **Disney Adult.** They’re a whole other level.

[@Uhwatchdogsforthewiiu]

Yeah I’m not a Disney fan like some there stuff more a Pixar guy but yeah no matter how much a fan you are you won’t be as unhinged as they are! There like swiftys if you say something bad about Taylor swift they will argue you if you say something bad about Disney the same thing.disney adults need a chill pill like a pharmacy worth of chill pills

[@beatlefreak67]

Dam that quote is exactly what I've been saying. They say they love Disney but really they hate actual cartoons. It feels like jocks became in charge of nerd stuff, they don't get why it's cool and just redo the most shallow aspects of them

[@GHOST25938]

"Robert Downey jr as MF DOOM" we all wish for a DOOM movie i see😭

[@OrangeLimeMusicMaker]

MF Doom is a rapper, Doom is a game

[@theseer5]

​@@OrangeLimeMusicMaker all caps when you spell the man name

[@cartoonboy6039]

It’s not even a joke, it’s just true especially now.

[@nicoleportnov3724]

I’m sorry but I’m sorta a Disney adult And I lost interest in most of Disney projects because of Raya and the last dragon

[@MrBassmann15]

Don't worry about it, I kinda was one too. I used to obsess over Disney parks and Universal too. I eventually grew out of it and got bored. It became too expensive, unoriginal, and there's a much bigger world out there than just amusement parks.

[@thawtianajawnson30]

@@MrBassmann15 That sucks for you.

[@Mr.H0LLYW00D]

​@@thawtianajawnson30 dude has a life outside in the real world, and you think that's sad😂😂😂

[@imechko_familia]

​@@MrBassmann15 honestly, I don't understand the appeal. I've been to disneyland twice as a kid and I hated it both times. 80% of it was standing in lines or walking through crowds, and I didn't get anything healthy to eat. I prefer small local amusement parks, where I can actually breathe and have fun.

[@kursedmilk]

Disney has created a whole generation of Peter Pans

[@josh0108]

Calling Disney Adults SCPs is hilarious!

[@craigthebrute1512]

It’s called a echo chamber

[@wantyoursleep6701]

An*

[@Nightwinghandsome204]

This comment section is a echo chamber

[@Radicalbeast]

as you said, the only intresting things are the original pixar ideas and incredibles 3

[@bunnie_bee]

I'm not a huge Disney person, but I *am* praying that fantastic 4 is gonna be good 🙏

[@JonathanMcCullough-so7ng]

@@bunnie_bee as a big marvel fan, if they get fantastic 4 wrong, im done with marvel

[@theopendoorev]

@@JonathanMcCullough-so7ngyou’ve already been giving them the benefit of the doubt too long brother

[@JonathanMcCullough-so7ng]

@@theopendoorev i agree, but i think they still have a small chance they can fix things

[@theopendoorev]

@@JonathanMcCullough-so7ng hey it might be far fetched but i still hope so too

[@jeanh9321]

As an adult, I haven’t gone to see a Disney Film in a theater because most of the new films just don’t interest me. My daughter convinced me to watch Encanto recently on TV. I enjoyed Encanto, which was a surprise for me. Disney just needs new fresh ideas, but they aren’t willing to take the chance on spending money on any fresh new ideas.

[@pridefulmaster1390]

I think it says something about Disney when the most creative and clearly made with action passion property they own at the moment is Kingdom Hearts. Also Gravity Falls and most of their 2010 era animated shows

[@teamfossil6312]

Does it even count as theirs? They provides the characters but they didn’t do any of the writing, nor did they do any of the work of making the games. It’d be like crediting tolkien fpr the battle for middle earth games

[@ghostcatt0]

Dont forget owl house in that! Cant believe they cancelled it

[@pinkdarkman]

Even Kingdom Hearts sucks now tbh. KH3 was literally the worst writing the series has ever had. (yes, worse than coded) KH3 was literally just nostalgia pandering and bringing dead characters back to life for seemingly no reason besides ruining the emotional impact of their deaths. Also the stories for the Disney characters were boring and overseen by the original movie creators so they had no creative freedom and you can tell. Kingdom Hearts is probably my biggest gaming let down. And don't tell me to play the mobile game, my phone is garbage lol.

[@teamfossil6312]

@@pinkdarkman If I remember correctly the games shut down and it just plays cutscenes now. There’s probably an emulator for it though

[@WidderJonesWannabe]

Can't disagree with who is demanding this more. (Sort of)Disney adult here 🙋🏻‍♀️ There's nothing I dislike more than remakes of originals. I HATE the slop redux they keep tossing out. I just want to rewatch the originals over and over and LOVE seeing brand new material. I don't persinally know a single Disney adult who thinks differently than I do... but maybe we're just the "good" kind of Disney adults? 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@VigilanteWilliamson]

I don't think the fans push remakes and sequels per se. I think in general, studios are afraid of originality.

[@thegaygreekjew]

This.

[@whitneymouse]

This! No one is asking for sequels and remakes.

[@wordpainter1]

I want to think that but all those people cheering when they put up all that garbage just made me so confused. Who would cheer for any of that???? Who wanted any of what was shown?? I imagine if they announced Toy Story 5 to a dead silent audience things might be different.

[@thegaygreekjew]

@@wordpainter1 They're already hyped up.

[@GM-yg9nq]

Unfortunately, it's not just Disney adults praising Disney's laziness. The general masses also do this sorta thing. And they're giving Disney more incentive to be lazy.

[@robbycooper6787]

11:45 if you’re going to be unoriginal adapt something from a book that hasn’t had a good adaptation yet, because at least there’s a reason to go see it because I couldn’t see it until they adapted it

[@TobyOliverHenryFan]

I hope all the 12k people that saw this video heard your message at the end and do it. "Stop buying it! Stop showing up!"

[@themaddiecommittee]

The only way they'll get people to see Mufasa is by sending out those tickets for free

[@roberts_archive]

Disney Adults played a hand in ruining the park experience for the 6 & 8 year old kids in our family we recently took to Disneyland. So many “Disney Adults” waiting in line for rides on a Monday morning/afternoon. Was really a shame, 60-90 min waits for rides all day long, not to mention the constant ride breakdowns.

[@valkyriedarquese]

adults and older kids deserve to go to disney too, it's not purely for little children. The issue is inefficient park operation and management. Tokyo disney is far more efficient even on its busiest days

[@Maskof_Infamy]

@@valkyriedarqueseis it really that unfair to have some park hours exclusive to families with children only?

[@LuluTheCorgi]

​@@Maskof_Infamycome and man we are already paying taxes to pay for your kids school and shit atleast don't take theme park aways from us

[@gamingforever9121]

@@LuluTheCorgifeck that your adults go do adult shit. Stop going to kids theme-parks .

[@pinkdarkman]

I'm not a Disney Adult, I was just born into a poor family with a single mom and 3 siblings so I never got to go as a kid and now I'm an adult with my own income so I can finally go to theme parks. Stop poverty shaming fam, we weren't all as lucky as your kids.

[@impagain]

I honestly know a few "Disney Adults" irl, and literally none of them like the live action remakes, none of them are excited for the new live actions, all of them think the Toy Story franchise needed to end with 3, and are painfully aware that all these sequels are pretty much soulless cash grabs. While Disney Adults are somewhat to blame, it's not really fair to pin it on them when all of this stems from the execs wanting to keep everything as safe, sterile, and marketable as possible, therefore erasing everything that made these stories interesting and challenging to begin with. Disney Adults are starving for something new, but will consume whatever crumbs they can get in the meantime.

[@isabellegoegebuer2777]

The fact that they consume whatever crumbs they can get in the meantime is exactly the core of the problem, though. Just stop throwing your money at the mouse. It's that simple.

[@ItsBAndBees]

The only way I, as a 30 yo, can enjoy disney is vicariously through my children. I let them decide what’s worth watching, and their joy is what makes me happy and remember my own childhood. Without my interference, they always go for the 2d Disney movies, the occasional frozen and Moana kick, but more often than not they want to watch anime and studio Ghibli films. Any time they’ve shown their friends My Neighbor Totoro, those other kids fall in love and beg me to play it when they come over. Kids need more imagination, whimsy, and NUANCE (they’re not dumb) and LESS adults telling them which kids movies they should like..

[@BlitzDemonGamer3032]

looks like Disney is depending on Disney Adults for there magic

[@DramakilzU]

I’m actually okay with Zootopia 2 if they make Nick the protagonist and somehow make the plot about the carnivores having unfair laws/restrictions placed on them due to herbivore bias.

[@garffeels]

this reminds me of how spongebob is in the current day, they rely on references from old episodes (or make sequels of the old episodes all together) to keep the show alive. it’s nostalgia bait

[@justchan2443]

8:55 I got sick watching that clip

[@ShadeX]

Saw your title and you got a great point. I remember going to see Logan in theaters and saw a massive line. That line wasn't for that film (since parents and kids were in line) but rather the Beauty and the Beast live action remake. Never underestimate Disney adults they love live action remake slop. As much as people complain about those films (me included) Disney adults will buy tickets for it.

[@leoconto1043]

On an unrelated topic, why is the entirety of wall-e on youtube? It was uploaded to KZbin 3 days ago and has 1,4m views and keeps reappearing in my recommendations.

[@demo2823]

Same. I think it's bot accounts trying to cash in.

[@ses694]

It reached 1.7M views before being deleted. The channel was a small youtuber, if it was a bot upload they must have been hacked.

[@IngenieroMan]

0:50 the worst part is that it isnt even an original IP, is based on the mattel hotwheels toy sub-IP

[@PullStar05]

You know what I want to see? A Mickey Mouse Movie. In all the years Disney’s used his mug on merchandising and thematic elements, we’ve never seen a Mickey Donald and Goofy comedy last more than 20 minutes. It would be the least derivative thing in the world to reinvigorate interest in Mickey Donald and Goofy, especially with how they are in the Epic Mickey and Kingdom Hearts games, along with the Paul Rudish Mickey cartoons you see posted all over social media. Also can like, they do something with Oswald please? How about something with him instead of Toy Story 7?

[@thegaygreekjew]

So you've never seen the Three Musketeers.

[@nunyabusiness4904]

For love of god nobody tell Disney that Bug’s Life is nearly 30 years old and has been untouched by sequels so far.

[@mathewperring]

I worked with a Disney adult, and it juat seemed weird how much of someone's personality can be poured into something that is the economic property of someone else.

[@simonclover1954]

I think you’re wrong about disney adults begging for more sequels. The common consensus for Toy Story 4 is that it didn’t need to be made and the franchise should have ended with 3. Also, most adults who enjoy disney have no issue with watching animation and are actually against the stigma that animation is only for kids, it could just be out of touch corporate execs.

[@alondraandrade2179]

As Chris Sanders wild robot becomes a global success, I also wonder what he thinks of own creation, lilo and stitch, being massacred.

[@jodo2785]

This next year is going to be the cinematic death of Disney They will never recover

[@clonecommanderrex8542]

Can we go back to when disney sequels are just fillers direct to DVDs while they work on bigger and unique movies

[@markanderson7236]

8:09 Yes, actually. A live-action remake of this film could be prestigious if it's written well.

[@jmn327]

It was something that already bled into the theme parks from just about the moment Iger took over the company: the mandate from corporate is "no original rides, shows, or attractions - everything you guys make needs to include characters from a pre-existing property we own"...in other words, Disney World is now mostly a big commercial for Disney+. It's bled tons of uniqueness and really thoughtful artistic choices out of the parks, and it's been kind of sad to watch.

[@teamfossil6312]

That idea dates back to the Eisner days, although it has definitely been wholeheartedly embraced by now

[@jmn327]

@@teamfossil6312 I wouldn't say that much, though; Eisner allowed for a nice balance of original attractions and some IP-driven material where it felt applicable - heck, the last non-IP original large scale attraction at a US Disney park was Expedition Everest in 2006, which opened a little while (I believe) after Eisner left. But yeah, *especially* ever since Harry Potter hit Universal, Iger-era Disney has no room for original concepts (or consistent theming, for that matter).

[@mannyegarica12]

They're making Lilo & stitch again even though Disney didn't have any faith. The first time it came out there have been records of people talking who worked at Disney saying that they didn't believe in Lilo and stitch.

[@wizardoferror9942]

OMG FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT I SOOOO AGREE. Disney adults are sucking the souls out of this company that it leads them to do soulless stuff like this. I miss the Disney that is creative and innovative. You know, they do an amazing original film to lure the average income family and nerd to theaters.

[@TOzzy_]

As a person who could be called a "Disney Adult", this is so true. No respect for art, just consumption of product. Very sad

[@toyotaprius79]

Time to learn the definition of "Market Failure", especially if you also noticed a car market flooded with hapless crossover-SUVs and rich-failson full sized pickups that are finaced with very handsome profit margins.

[@jojobizadTRASH]

Ok, the NIN Tron better be good. The soundtrack for the sequel slapped, so I do hope they don't fumble this one. Hell, I would kill for Tron 4 with Aphex Twin.

[@dytamic]

disney is a fascinating case study in business, because their philosophy is literally just "people will buy it anyway, it's disney!"

[@LucasDanielCab5]

4:34 can’t tell if this is satire or not but if it isn’t my condolonces

[@darrylcolosi4174]

Yea can we get a quick backstory (respectfully, if not that’s cool no worries dawg, great vid either way)

[@PyxeledGenesis]

This is why piracy is amazing. You get mediocre movies for free, and the soulless corps behind them don't make a dime off your viewings. I'll be watching a few of these sequels out of curiosity but they aren't getting my money for these spits in the face.

[@checkerboard_floor9552]

As a Disney adult, we don’t want this either?

[@psyky]

Do disney adults want live action? I thought it was the regular adults because they have some kinda stigma about wanting live action. I would think disney adults would watch any cartoon no pronlem

[@DaydreamsAllDay]

This video sums up what happened with the comics industry. Disneys future has already been seen with the comics industry, which is a small sliver of life compared to what it used to be. Making something new is risky, but it brings in a lot more newcomers than a story being retold for the millionth time.

[@v4mpshoot]

that south park special aged like fine wine

[@kingandrewcecil348]

The Panderverse one?

[@v4mpshoot]

@@kingandrewcecil348 yes

[@caiotheduck5640]

I'm a Disney Adult and even I know we can have better movies than that! Seriously man, what Hollywood does sucks!

[@traption4617]

Thats a bullshet lie! Im a proud disney adult and I want an unapologetically villian who is out for blood and chaos!

[@rickshabusky4553]

I think Disney live action films were made out of greed, ego and spite on the originals The new Snow White movie is a good example of this

[@swoozie]

Totally agree w/ Disney adults being the American version of Otaku. I just feel like Disney/Pixar’s recent original attempts are rushed to fill a calendar (Wish/Elementals) whereas back in the day Disney would take their time and rewrite scripts until they had a banger on their hands which is definitely not the current practice 😔

[@JonathanGaeta]

I honestly wish Disney would take their time crafting their animated movies like in the old days, but like you said it’s not their practice and they just rush these projects to meet the deadline which is not really good as you’re working overtime for the directors, editors, and animators, and you wonder why they feel rushed and not polished enough just to get a new Disney/Pixar animated film every year and not like a 1-2 year gap like before.

[@manaayek8091]

“Escaped scp entries” is the perfect way to describe disney adults.

[@THE_EDGEDAY_WATCHER]

I know. There needs to be an SCP entry similar to these quasi-Sapient humanoids. 6:38 😅😂

[@Lakeside80]

I bet Incredibles 3 will not age up the kids, and if they do it'll be by a teensy bit. Like any franchise, they want to keep the cute recognizable kids marketability. If they age them up, then their recognizable characters and family dynamics will change. Especially since the sequel left off exactly where the first ended. It's unlikely we will get a movie with meaningful growth. And man, was the sequel forgettable.

[@Attmay]

I tried to warn people to be a bit more discerning and a lot less passive in their support for the company.

[@00Boogie]

Disney adults are cringe, but the pivot away from conventional animation is a mistake Disney makes every so often. Matinee had a really funny scene lampooning the first time they tried that.

[@saltinefromindiana]

Mufasa is coming out the same day as Sonic 3, and I'd be lying if I said that I said that I want to see Mufasa over Sonic 3

[@teamfossil6312]

I didn’t know it was coming out this year, but yeah, I’m far more excited to see “teleports behind you” shadow then cgi lion slop

[@grendel8342]

Everyone remember those ai disney and Pixar posters? They need to make those. At least they'd be funny and original.