Why the Racing Line Doesn’t Win Races

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Winning an F1 Championship requires more than clocking the fastest laps; It requires ”race craft,” which includes knowing when the racing line isn’t the key to victory. Today we're going to explain why the racing line isn't necessarily the best way to win a race.
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[@lalaeez2063]

I prefer Forza racing lines where you go for the line that rams your opponent with utmost efficiency.

[@SOLPIU]

And nfs shift too 😂

[@318super98]

Its all about stealling their momentum as they take yours off the road 🤣🤣🤣

[@protogaming4295]

Thats where the unimog comes in

[@protogaming4295]

Also, 8 tires are better at braking than 4

[@bwabbel]

@@protogaming4295 exactly what i'm saying 😂

[@Driver61]

Come and do some racing guys!

[@Karan-nj2dk]

Great Scott! Didn't expect to find you here. I would like to hear your take on racecraft curbing ideal racing line (no pun intended), or sacrificing other conventional wisdoms about racing to gain track position. Your video on Verstappen's pace in wet touched upon this subject and it was eye-opening for a novice like me.

[@Skimmary]

Favourite youtubers 🤙

[@therrydicule]

They might do a LeMons race or something...

[@gerardleary1885]

Driver61 and Uncle Jerry? Does it get better?

[@stg607animations]

D R I V E R 6 1

[@floijd]

Hammond: "On Paper, this is the faster car." Clarkson: "Yes, but on TARMAC it isn't."

[@GogiTavadze]

What car it was about?

[@233kosta]

The paper was clearly wrong then ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@Weird_Cat_Thingy]

@@yvngpanda3036 I can't remember if that's the Focus or Fiesta in America

[@velvet_turtle7918]

@@Weird_Cat_Thingy it's the fusion

[@KiraPlaysGuitar]

@@velvet_turtle7918 :(

[@ronpinto9588]

When Senna first started racing in Europe, for an F3 team, a driver for the same team asked him how come, when it was raining, he drove in a different line than everyone else and still lapped at least one second faster than the rest. Senna explained to him that when the track was wet the usual racing line was covered in oil and rubber, making it much more slippery, which was why he would follow the line less used and was able to enjoy better grip than all others. I heard that the day after Senna died, in a Mexican TV show called "Caliente" where the host was interviewing people who, at one time or another" had had contact with Senna, and the explanation was given by a Mexican driver that drove for the first team Senna ever drove for in Europe.

[@nicholascrow8133]

wet line vs dry line

[@shaamilthattayil]

"...and I took the path less travelled by" Now where have I heard that before...🤔

[@d35p0]

Max really learnt from this

[@Someone25948]

This is common knowledge since the day people have been racing in the rain, Senna didn't discover this or anything

[@Leon-ub8pe]

@@Someone25948 Senna hater lmao he never said Senna created did

[@rizqirizaldo]

Jerry: slower, but fast? McQueen: turn left to turn right? This questions are the progenitor of legendary moments

[@williammilliron8735]

"Turn RIGHT to go LEFT" but yeah I was thinking the same thing lol

[@preston_vanderbilt]

Racing flat track motos in the Hooligan class for the first time… it just messed me up.

[@californiapoontappa]

@@preston_vanderbilt but all motos turn on gyroscope you are always counter steering

[@stg607animations]

Or ya know nuke the racers to win by default

[@bog4240]

@@stg607animations not funny didn't laugh

[@lexilex72]

"Winning isn't about following the racing line" *laughs in drag racing*

[@shadowguy530]

@dobelheintz same

[@BeyondSorrowYYY]

Hereby i declare war!

[@0xsergy]

if theres no turns its just a highway. 1v1 rust

[@alchemist6819]

@dobelheintz same

[@TinoushGTR]

Anyone can drive on a straight line in an automatic.

[@Jordiw00t]

Max Verstappens Brazil race in the wet is one of the perfect examples of adapting to the track conditions and choosing a different racing line.

[@allensinho4]

Didn’t he say it was just because he could see better?

[@ashham9183]

That drive from him is so fucking good

[@alalal123421]

lewis 2008 silverstone was also crazy

[@billymays4110]

Hamilton’s pole lap in Styria 2020

[@degebeundebende993]

@@allensinho4 Both, rubber gets slippery when it's wet, so he didn't drive on the rubbered in part. And definitely, not as much spray and more downforce if you drive outside the traditional racing line. Not to forget, wet and dry lines are very common practice in racing, but since wet lines come across the dry (rubbered) line, there are tricky little slippery spots which make them hard to master. Both lewis and max are known to be good drivers in the wet, and a well known F1 champion once said that wet driving separates the good from the great. I don't know how informed you are and maybe I'm preaching to the choir here 🤷🏼‍♂️.

[@nancyzasimova2044]

I’m an artist and and an ex-racer and the perfect racing line concept is similar to when you draw stylised humans/animals. You need to be very familiar with the anatomy before you can stylise convincingly. Same with racing. You still need to know the perfect racing line of by heart to be able to adjust yours intuitively according to external conditions. This is exactly why coaches are always teaching newbies about the racing line in detail at first.

[@RustOnWheels]

To become a master in arts one must master theory (and basics) first in order to deviate from (/ rise above) it as an artist.

[@709mash]

Reminds me of Stanley Kubrick's saying: "Get the facts right, then distort at your pleasure."

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[@inno-v8-ion165]

@@709mash I thought Neil DeGrasse Tyson said that? Either way, the statement is SO damn true

[@versth]

Ii​@@RustOnWheels

[@sandalphoncpu]

“Why Racing Line Doesn’t Win Races” Me an intellectual: *cuts corners*

[@JordanSVT]

Race: Has no check points Me: Cuts a straight line to the finish line

[@THE_EXPERIMENTER]

How did you make it say 210 years ago?

[@Starfighter-nk4mo]

@@THE_EXPERIMENTER That’s just his username

[@Weird_Cat_Thingy]

Jimmy Broadbent: *punts them into the wall*

[@stanleygarland1666]

and gets disqualified

[@rmn3d]

Lewis Nolanton's gonna haunt me in my dreams for a few months

[@drmaulana2600]

Also Jeremiah Webber

[@DaveB432]

The Vettel merger scares me the most!

[@randalllawkin]

Yeah that mug was ugly with that combo lol...not saying he is but you know, those.breads.

[@TGears314]

Time stamp?

[@JackFogos]

James PumpVettel is gonna give me nightmares too

[@JamaaLS]

After yesterday's crash this is very revealing.

[@a-peekgaming3544]

Lol yes

[@CYMotorsport]

6:40 good point: immediately thought of the bump at high Mirabeau in Monte Carlo where’s its best to slide right to keep grip despite it being overtly off the racing line albeit momentarily

[@stare4539]

Fr

[@felip0251]

"On a F1 track, most corners aren't simple arcs." Sochi: Hold my beer

[@gamespot6002]

ok

[@stap4811]

Keyword: most

[@user-sc8sx6pb3i]

*Hold my vodka

[@DaFifaKid]

congrats, now you realize what the word "most" means.

[@Hick25]

they’re moving the russian gp track to a different one, hopefully be less boring of a race

[@utr4_962]

"Hamilton saves his tires" Hamilton: Bono, my tyres are gone.

[@muhammadnaufal6317]

Perez: yes..

[@swapnilmankame]

Hamilton usually lies about tires to throw opponents off, all opponents are constantly listening on each other's radio thus have to speak in code. there was some mention about it in the behind the scenes video of red bull's HQ. (example he went radio silent when his tires were completely shredded and punctured in the last lap, yet he won with 3 wheels, google British Grand Prix 2020 Hamilton last lap)

[@HandlesSuck123]

And then when Lewis' tyre are actually gone, like in Silverstone, Lewis doesn't complain...

[@swapnilmankame]

@@dgogara New DTS fans don't seem to know it. its a rampant issue on Facebook

[@eliasdawi2846]

@@HandlesSuck123 what are you talking about, all 4 tire were definitely completely fine :p

[@SprintHillclimb]

this is quite funny after today

[@joseriveracondori5367]

This been recomended to me TODAY 😳

[@krankieboolean1340]

Hamilton won and drove faster and was able to pass cars that Bottas was unable to do.

[@richy2563]

This is such a fantastic explanation of various complicated concepts for amateurs to understand easily. Love that you guys are covering F1!

[@polarpandaX]

8:14 "slow to go fast" has the same energy as doc telling McQueen Turn right to go left

[@MrOscar5690]

I’m watching this as I play Gran Turismo 7.. When I get frustrated and start mashing the throttle I always have to remind myself “if I want to go fast, I have to slow down” My fiancé heard me say this to myself and she said that makes no sense Hahaha..

[@marianorivera3272]

@@MrOscar5690 it actually makes a lot of sense. If you’re trying to do something fast, you’re constantly focusing on micro-correcting your snappy imputs. Doing something slower and steadier until the input becomes flawless instinctively is more efficient because you need to focus less on corrections of hasty inputs.

[@MrOscar5690]

@@marianorivera3272 thanks.

[@s.willis8426]

I remember Michael Shumacher back in the day on a rainy GP, the rain broke with about 20 laps to go and many teams pulled into the pits to switch back to the dry tires but he stayed out and swerved to hit a few puddles on each lap to keep the rain tires cool enough to not degrade on the warming tarmac and finished on the rain tires (in first place). They were playing checkers, he was playing chess.

[@Aj00047]

He has most experience racing on worn down tires aswell….

[@ordenax]

To think that, in such little time is genius.

[@chickenlampbrent]

My experience was amateur stock car at the local circuit for a few years. It was a quarter-mile oval but it was trickier than it looked and the line you took might depend on how hot it was that day. I did a lot of door handle to door handle racing with one guy in an eagle talon against my 4th gen Prelude. I could never pull ahead of him if he kept the inside line but if I waited behind him, I knew his car would push up to the wall toward the end of the race on his hot tires. Having a nice racing line is alright when you're not in a pack and you get the line you get. You just have to be a ruthless opportunist if you want to win and take things right to the knife edge of control and hold it there for the duration. There's a mental state and you have to be decisive on frighteningly short notice and make the right decisions more than wrong ones. Even so, you can be doing everything right and it can still all go pear-shaped. Then when you're rolled over and crashing with a dislocated limb and you realize you have absolutely nothing to say about what's happening, that's interesting. Your brain seems to speed up and you can process data very quickly and this distorts time. Fascinating.

[@luijazzpiano]

"Hamilton is a seven times world champion because of his racecraft...." The entire Engineering team "am I a joke for you? "

[@Joran40]

@Kasper Hansen *literally the last driver to win the title without his team winning the constructors title*...

[@crishealingvtuber8626]

@Kasper Hansen the engine is way worse and he is still arriving 4th? Please. You don't break records being an average driver with the best car.

[@troll_486]

*literally that was 13 years ago*

[@Orphen_]

@@Joran40 Hamilton is a world champion because he is an amazing driver. He is a 7 times world champion because he got into the fastest car. However he got that seat because he is an amazing driver so... Yeah alot of it is on his own merit combined with some good timing on coming through and proving himself as a great driver. So for me there is no doubt that Hamilton is a great driver and one of the best on the grid over the past 13 years... However his team and the car he had surely contributed alot to him having all the successes that he had.

[@Joran40]

@@troll_486 shows that it is a really hard feat to do

[@JoelRipke]

"[Lewis Hamilton] is a 7-time world champion because of his race craft" I think you triggered all "it's the car" people

[@KG_Grandpa]

Russel showed that last season, but its not all car.

[@milktar2182]

Calling it a race craft makes it sound like his car is a floating hover car (more commonly called a ship) that you would see in WipE'out"

[@CS-yc6qp]

He’s a mathematical genius

[@vichs8457]

75% car

[@neovenom9833]

Imagine if his car was actually controlled from the pits. it would be the scandal of the century.😂

[@AJKing8]

"Intertia over grip" but as Martin Brundle says it, "Ambition over Adhesion"

[@zmalik8593]

He's got such a way with words

[@dtremblay17]

Haha i love him!!

[@mrbeans2425]

I LOVE that saying!

[@breakinghabits_II]

I’ve had this video in my “watch later” list for a couple of months now. Glad I finally got around to watching. Funny AF and educational, too. You’d make a brilliant teacher

[@draganbalzic4493]

8:56 It’s very difficult to imagine a date in this lifetime in which Mazespinner would be defending against Hamilton.

[@watersnortmoment3734]

Definitely not now

[@mamavswild]

He didn’t want to use any of the other drivers who could be in that position’s name though, because then the driver’s fans would come down hard on him. I totally would have if he had used MY favorite driver’s name and made it seem like Ham could easily catch him.

[@709mash]

Well he won't have that chance anymore 😉

[@devlinkeenoy8716]

maybe he doesn't want to get lapped

[@UNiTEDDKSilent21]

@@mamavswild This kinda just shows how you're an internet degenerate, getting mad at someone for saying something on the internet, how insane.

[@colevano]

Can Donut please finally teach the animator that it is spelled “braking point” and “brakes” not “breaking point” or “breaks.”

[@GBduds]

Shows a graph and says braking point

[@TGears314]

I said the same thing. 8:20 really bothered me. How many videos have had that error now?

[@JoelRipke]

Well, it's Mazepin...

[@j.seagle6867]

@@JoelRipke you have a good point there 🤣

[@something7992]

Breaking point f1 2021 lol

[@sonydominates]

Dear editor, Breaking = something destroyed Braking = slowing something down

[@TheOtherNeutrino]

For some drivers, the line is blurry.

[@DexteruL]

@@TheOtherNeutrino Some drivers do break their tires when braking ... it's called a lockup...

[@guccihorsepiss2406]

@@TheOtherNeutrino couch couch grosjean cough cough

[@zeyzerx3722]

@@guccihorsepiss2406 OmmHGg GuySs GroSsJJEaaNN cRassHHH GettTT ITttTT? IM sO FunNy SiNnCe 2012

[@StudioVRM]

@@TheOtherNeutrino For drivers like me, it's often both.

[@kippersgamingchannel937]

i learned about the out breaking strategy from initial d lol when takumi raced the r32

[@Somerandom1922]

I always loved the idea of taking a deeper (theoretically slower) line to have a higher exit speed before a straight where you can use your higher speed to overtake someone who took the proper racing line.

[@nickgehr6916]

Therapist: Lewis Nolanton isn't real Donut: Say sykes right now

[@heronumbertwo3171]

r/youngpeopleyoutube

[@OofThatsNice]

Under Appreciated comment right here

[@stg607animations]

r/young people KZbin @Hero Number Two

[@GanjaNinja]

@@heronumbertwo3171 Get out redditor!

[@heronumbertwo3171]

@@GanjaNinja well if you think about it the thread used against me have indirectly made the comment popular

[@joshuaw_270]

Throw all this out of the window when your on Gran Turismo and someone just decides to yeet you to the shadow realm.

[@johnmay6432]

Shadow realm…I see you’re a man of culture. Super culture 👍

[@Vinecars]

@@johnmay6432 Hello fellow viewer, he indeed is a man of culture.

[@One21P]

Early braking. Late turns. Those rammers understand racing line to best hit you at maximum speed. Winning line always beats the racing line.

[@MrPFMneto]

R4M_Shadow is out there to avenge us, brother! Don't bottle it just yet.

[@a1g0rhythm]

Glad you discussed the squared off corner @10:50 it works with lower class cars too. I pass in Wreakfest like this, you don't grind around the corner and have more acceleration distance, great for fwd or tail heavy rwd.

[@RustOnWheels]

I’ve been watching Donut for several years now, I can remember when most comments were just haters because they still had to find their own style. But man how I love how this channel has grown and Jeremiah is bar none my absolute favorite KZbinr when it comes to explaining technical stuff. This video only showed up in my feed today and it is absolutely compelling.

[@brandonpratt5701]

“When in doubt, flat out.” -Colin McRae

[@stefanocanzian9172]

Worst advice ever

[@R4M_Tommy]

That's why he ALWAYS crashed

[@cobbomusic]

doesnt quite work in road racing

[@akashsarma8241]

Please don’t I am in my 3 rd bumper already

[@pauloaz496]

Literally Kevin Magnussen

[@MexicanBagpiper96]

"Nolan Hamilton isn't real, he can't hurt you."

[@Shimeih]

He just hurt me😭😭😭 Judging from your advice I’m sensing that you’re the type pf kid my mom told me to stay away from 😂😂😂

[@jacobmartyniuk8001]

Really helpful video. I’m new to the sport and this was the most concise explanation of turning strategy I’ve heard yet.

[@giuliocallegari9366]

This was very informative on racing strategies+physics, I'd love to see other

[@homeless_kiddd7207]

Those photoshopped pictures makes Nolan look like he used a 65$ roll bar

[@tourgasmsvt]

He looks like Jared Leto in Panic Room

[@JohnRidesMx]

Hamilton passing Mazespin? Yeah sure like I dont know my Drivers

[@gepbalta]

He's passing Mazespin about 3 times/race. It's not that easy cause no one expecting him to defend his position while he's blue flagged, yet he does. :D

[@ev17dan]

Did you forget Baku?

[@stg607animations]

Mazespin be like: s🅱️innala

[@Drew311Drew]

@@gepbalta Lewis can only pass lord Mazepin with blue flags

[@th1nk_outside]

BLUE FLAGS. THIS GUY MAKES US LOSE THE POSITION!!!!!

[@tylerhoopes]

I love watching your commentary. It’s fun. It’s how I would tell a story. Thanks man for the hard work.

[@nathanhighlander]

Love your video & the way you explaining it, Jeremiah! You & James. Awesome! 🌟 And to Donut Media - you have awesome guys here. And even one of them was on the podium. 😊

[@pmmastiffs8763]

Years ago I had an old timer tell me “slow is smooth, smooth is fast”. It wasn’t able to understand that from an analytical standpoint until I felt it on my way to my first wins. Watch Hamilton drive, slow small changes and consistently fast lap times. Really wish I could explain verbally but the feeling is amazing!

[@233kosta]

It's all about time scales. A sharp input is capable of momentarily exceeding the available grip, breaking static traction often in an unrecoverable way and sending you into a spin while taking a corner much slower than is otherwise possible. That old timer is 100% on point.

[@mattevans1643]

That goes for many things in life. Being fast isn't fast, being smooth is fast. It's better to do things right the 1st time than to do it 2-3 times the wrong way.

[@ibbeats5183]

I heard this when watching videos on how to get better at dirt rally 2.0 and instantly started doing better stages, it also carried over to playing F1. Started shaving whole seconds off my lap times that i was certain i couldnt top

[@ntl9974]

@@ibbeats5183 like zen right?

[@ibbeats5183]

@@ntl9974 youre thinking of flow state, which is where you are in a zone where you are unconscious and reacting purely on instinct while driving. Im describing the pedal inputs. The smoother youre feet can be going on/ off the throttle/brake the better. Hope i cant help mate

[@nathanjoseph4284]

Day 7 of asking for an Up to Speed on how Donut Media came to be

[@locowaldo1542]

Day one of supporting this

[@nathanjoseph4284]

Also can I humbly request some more muscle car love on Donut please? Or how about more B2B on "normal" cars (like non F1, like actual proper road cars)

[@bobbydavy88]

Support initiated...

[@Super_Black1]

this is a must

[@aziackerman8985]

this one right here chief

[@redporschekilla]

Jeremiah, you are one of the coolest "coaches" in the Donut world, well the others are great, but none brings the geek stuff over like you do..... Thanks for being that champ, can't wait for the next class!!! You rock man!!

[@nolanpeters5462]

2:30 is also a great example of how orbital velocity works. The ISS is literally balancing on the line of too much speed and not enough grip, or vice versa. Except grip is gravity.

[@ntl9974]

Just two balanced forces

[@nolanpeters5462]

@@ntl9974 perfectly balanced as all things should be. Hi r/unexpectedthanos

[@silience4095]

@@ntl9974 Two balanced forces? There's only 1 force acting on the ISS.

[@silience4095]

Eh, I wouldn't say it's that much of a balance. Going a little slow will result in your altitude dropping, which will increase your speed, making you go back up again. It's how elliptical orbits go. For the ISS to stay in orbit, they actually have a HUGE velocity range. Anywhere from escape velocity at their altitude, to deorbit velocity at their altitude. Of course they want to be in a specific orbit, but they still have some wiggle room. The ISS actually boosts itself periodically, to keep the orbit in check, because it still experiences some aerodynamic drag.

[@nolanpeters5462]

@@silience4095 the elliptical is balance

[@RonanNotRyan]

Mahaveer Raghunathan: *_"Y'know, I'm something of a Formula 1 driver myself..."_*

[@kazefw3834]

The goat 🤣🤣

[@ev17dan]

Our lord!

[@shinra6856]

lord mahaveer does not need racing lines, the other drivers simply get out of the way when he's near

[@SidewaysLoveJP]

“To me the ultimate line isn’t the motive, it’s merely the result!” - Dr. Joushima Toshiya AKA GodHand just minutes before puking his guts out

[@alondjeckto]

His racing line produce to much earth forces

[@F1ll1nTh3Blanks]

@@alondjeckto 🤣👏

[@teammusketeers]

😂😂😂u said it b4 i did @Godhand.... #godarm#initialD

[@tehangrybird345]

“All corners are different” Me: laughs in NASCAR oval

[@johnnyracioppi]

laughs at Pocono

[@superlight1999]

Nhra : laugh at quarter mile strip

[@nerd888]

me: laughs in no car🥲

[@asdasikdaisncxzinaskdnmf]

thanks for being so down to earth in your videos

[@umar02121]

That why king mazepin doesn’t follow lines he know he’s a champ

[@harshitaseeja3290]

We mistook him for a bad driver, we should all apologize

[@BigBadGato]

Mazepin races for the worst team in F1 and has never been on podium. Lol "Champ"

[@cesardepena7498]

@@BigBadGato I don't think you know what a joke is, do you?

[@guccihorsepiss2406]

@@cesardepena7498 I don't think that, I'm sure of that

[@cesardepena7498]

@@guccihorsepiss2406 incase you did not know it is a joke

[@sjhart14]

This was a great video. The discussion around toy models is exactly the sort of thing I learned in engineering school. Knowing when a model is a helpful tool but also recognizing its limitations and assumptions is something we grapple with all the time. You guys are getting better every week.

[@darylcline7624]

I just started getting in to F1 racing and gaming. This video was an amazing intro in to it and why the racing line isn’t ideal. So glad I watched this before relying too much on it Great video man, I look forward to watching more of your content

[@chrissomos5710]

Great video! Love the F1 content. Keep it going.

[@hayyaananwar7856]

8:00 "suppose hamilton is behind mazepin" me: why only suppose when you can see it

[@TheUSDebt]

I felt like this was a bad example since lapping a car should be pretty different than a regular overtake

[@ailurusfulgens1849]

@@TheUSDebt he wasn't taking about lapping, he was just firing shots at Mazepin because that's what Donut Media has been doing lately. They could have taken Verstappen but then couldn't have said "He stays in the racing line for once".

[@gamespot6002]

no

[@bnl522]

3:47 Now that's a meme I've not heard in a long time

[@shiratori88]

Do you remember what that cat meme was called

[@DodgeViper92]

I'm glad I didn't have to scroll that far down for someone to mention it

[@bnl522]

@@shiratori88 Dramatic chipmunk!

[@thatlumberjack]

This was super useful information. Thank you so much!!!

[@timothyjudsontaylorofficia9786]

Great info. Much apreciated!

[@barak181]

It's spelled, "braking." You break a stick in two. You brake when you want to slow down your car.

[@madmaniacloony]

Breaking point is when you hit the breaks and they break so you take a break

[@madbruv]

Braykink

[@adnitesean5005]

Idk man, not my 1st language but i did check a translator Both spelled: "brāk" Edit: i thought everyone's talking about the pronunciation. Turns out it was the editor putting "breaking" instead of braking

[@sweetssandbox3526]

if you are in a Haas it is spelled breaking because you broke the car hitting your teammate into the wall

[@grim-ripa]

Nobody's perfect. Give the editor a brake 🤣

[@Driftuner]

You forgot the most important rule: "if you dont go for a gap that exists..."

[@aaronbustamante9282]

Takumi style

[@nclparlade_random1179]

"...you are no longer a racing driver." Senna Sempre 🇧🇷

[@nclparlade_random1179]

@@aaronbustamante9282 what

[@TakumisBizarreRacingAdventure]

"......you're gay." (No offense to LGBTQ community, I love gay people [P.S. I'm not gay])

[@websterk451]

You're no longer a racing driver

[@yungveilmusic9234]

im a total noob in car culture. but this channel gives me life and teaches me whats good and whats meh thanks for the rotary engine history! that was my first delve into the culture and now im hooked cuz of yall. sending love!

[@cavannanicolas]

Great video, so so so well explained! quality work here.

[@jammin0792]

It's good to know that all corners are beautiful to Jeremiah, not just the ones with increasing radii. Thank you Jerry, thank you for your acceptance

[@koreboredom4302]

You see three consecutive hairpins, I see a mid-air straight line.

[@aurickbiswas8233]

Imagine if this was Shingo's dialogue for the hairpin section of Akina

[@thatonecarguydirk4803]

Now THATS the Champion mindset 💯💯🤙🤙🙏🙏👊👊

[@saileille]

They say you cut the course. You'll have to slow down and give up the time gained.

[@uddinrokib7]

What a yolk! You are not allowed to cut the chicken.

[@rienezukana]

IROHAZAKA JUMP!

[@davidkelly6011]

Love these videos boys. This f1 content is top notch

[@AH-mq9fn]

Great job, your subject themes are spot on.

[@tapsmorer7415]

Hamilton after watching the video: "so you see.. My tires are gone"

[@garrettsmith419]

You completely forgot to account for Mazepin spinning out around the corner

[@slowdriver6868]

Nah bro he just exploiting the secret "extreme slip angle" technique

[@justincase9033]

And the blue flag for mazepin

[@bukwok]

mazespin.

[@robingrevenstuk8673]

@@bukwok fidgetspinner*

[@aydankhaliq2967]

Tsunoda has spun as much as mazepin.

[@anthonydunne932]

Excellent insights and I taught i knew all to know.. Well done 👏✔

[@vinayneilpanda5639]

Silverstone 2021 wants to know your location

[@AvAfanfromfrance]

I remember when Donut was a starting channel, and now I realize how much progress has been made. After all this time, there's still room for interesting subjects, with better and better production. Well done guys, there are a lot of channels that need to get up to speed

[@stillplana]

Dominic Toretto: The only thing you need is family.

[@drmaulana2600]

Fambly

[@camogap7392]

Family helps in doing a wheelie and a burnout at the same time lol

[@axel3895]

And 20 speed manual gear box

[@stillplana]

@@axel3895 😂😂😂😂

[@fajaradi1223]

@@axel3895 You're a shifty... Gearbox

[@royroy325]

Nice one for today HAM-MAX 👌 Silverstone '21

[@capyyy-_-]

I love your intro. Funny, hooks you in, and clearly made by a person of culture.

[@101jir]

"Toy model," I need to remember that term! I always wondered why in games you are given the same racing line regardless of your engine/transmission layout.

[@233kosta]

It's a polite term for a model so wrong you're best off ignoring.

[@101jir]

@@233kosta Thanks for the clarification

[@mobius7745]

In games not only the racing line is trash compared to a full blown complex geometric line, it also doesn't adapt to anything other than the breaking points being usually based on your speed, so it's worse than a geometric line and worse than a "winning line"

[@Volkain10]

@@mobius7745 still useful aslong as you acknowledge it’s not the best/only way around a track. I like to use it at tracks that don’t have a good break marker

[@cameronwebster6866]

I’ve also heard “spherical cow model” in reference to a joke where a farmer is having problems with his cows, so contacts a university for help, and after examining the problem and deliberating, the university announces they have a solution, but it only works for a spherical cow in a vacuum.

[@neilneilorangepeel]

“Breaking point” is that the same as a Braking point? Or is it where the car breaks down? 😂

[@enKrypt]

I think Hamilton found the "breaking point" at Baku.

[@elfenixnight]

we were talking about mazepin, so breaking is correct.

[@zwenkwiel816]

It's a sequel to point break

[@4cylindersoffury252]

No one mentioned Williams.

[@chaitanyarao5546]

@@enKrypt I hope you remember that this is a marathon and not a sprint

[@MadMatty72]

Really well explained dude, I'm impressed!

[@maxcoffeee]

Funny how this recommended after Sunday race 😂

[@iasaacglendale558]

alternate title: Why the line doesn't win races and Hamilton does.

[@MeltingRubberZ28]

Except the last four in a row

[@sandblockz7342]

@@MeltingRubberZ28 he forgot

[@ashleyrocke6009]

@@sandblockz7342 I think you have forgotten the past 7 Seasons, but ok...

[@SamuelSantos_]

F

[@lecrocodile5651]

Hamilton racing line™ like in Bahrain

[@Customsbymlm]

Jeremiah you should do more F1 videos they are all awesome and very informative

[@mrch4nce]

If anyone watched Fernando hold off Hamilton at the Hungarian GP you saw a masterclass in race craft.

[@alexlacl8730]

By both drivers

[@kylelargin9528]

Up to speed on Garrett, I would love to know how the biggest name in turbochargers came to be

[@jj02mc27]

Or Up to Speed on Bilstein, the shock masters

[@kazefw3834]

Or Up To Speed on Brembo

[@TurbhoeHDRemix]

Borg Warner?

[@eliasdawi2846]

love that these vids are detailed enough for people with pre knowledge of this stuff, but still understandable for people with a simpler understanding of physics, etc. and keep up the f1 content :D

[@marksaris7249]

It’s always like getting a little PHD lesson in whatever he’s talking about. I love it!

[@TheF8ofN8]

0:59 my heart stopped for a second.... he was actually calling out all the Nathaniel/Nathaneal out there 😂😂

[@PaganiGaming]

Day 385 of asking James to do an Up to speed on his Dad

[@Xanderboof]

One day…

[@Xanderboof]

@TheNoobGamer honestly. he’s the only day x of that I care about haha

[@shaulstrait4313]

It seems a bit too personal a thing to talk about to millions of people

[@spaghettiman2.052]

Day 134 of supporting PaganiGaming

[@niksperience]

Stay well Mr. PaganiGaming

[@jetostake]

that "Breaking" Point distracted me.

[@Fenolmenon]

Me too... I came here to comment that I hope that's not where the cars break!!

[@thromboid]

I guess it is the point at which the car breaks from the straight racing line, but that's being charitable... :)

[@mobile_plays2853]

Donut Media: Racing lines don't win races. Trackmania players: hold my beer

[@leonidous888]

I don't know if there is any other channel I watch with such interesting content presented by a personality that I could not be less interested in.

[@nathanstanley4733]

0:59 i got spooked when he said “yeah you nathaniel”

[@kittenswithketchup]

SAME 🤣 Hi Nathaniel! I'm Nathaniel!

[@natanaelmolina2198]

Same I freaked out a bit 😂

[@deleteduser5838]

first:Josh fight now:nathaniel fight

[@kittenswithketchup]

@@deleteduser5838 There is literally a Nathan fight going on in the same place next year. I'm definitely going since I only live a few hours from it.

[@natemorse937]

Me too!

[@web_jar6630]

It's so fun to see F1 stuff on Donut Media! The 'psychology of racing' mentioned in the beginning of the video got me thinking about this year's F1 championship and the performance that Red Bulls are showing leaving Mercedes AMG team under immense pressure. The fight between them, both on and off track is going to be intense!!

[@scarzx73]

It is intense

[@f1champ551]

And I can also see why the TV ratings see as such when it comes to F1.

[@RustOnWheels]

This aged quite well.

[@The_Opinion_of_Matt]

Excellent video, you guys covered a lot! Unfortunately I didn't learn any thing new. You mentioned the sun moving and thus moving where shade hits the track, heating the track up and cooling it down in spots as the sun moves (or rather the earth rotates). Clouds do this too, which brings me to wind. Yeah, you forgot wind. A tailwind can add speed on a straight resulting in a higher top speed and the tailwind can increase braking distances because it is pushing the car. Conversely a head wind will do the opposite, decreasing top speed, but also decreasing braking distance. Adjust you braking point as needed. Also, as discussed in Indy 500 coverage the wind can affect cornering. If you are driving at the edge of a car's grip a wind coming from the inside of a corner can push the car wide. Conversely, wind coming from the outside of a corner can help hold a car on the line, which means the corner can be taken faster if there is wind coming from the outside, but slower if from the inside. Second, and this may blow your mind, you know how we have differentials because the inside tire follows a shorter path around a corner than the outside tire and so the tires need to be able to turn different (differential, ehh, ehh) speeds. Well, this happens across the tires contact patch as well. The inner edge of a given tire will follow a shorter path than the outer edge of the same tire. Since they cannot turn different speeds most of a tire is slipping a little bit in every corner and what parts are slipping or gripping comes down to weight transfer. Next, the fastest a car can go is determined by tire grip. But, depending on the tire, there is a small window beyond 10/10ths of tire grip where the car can go faster and still maintain control. Drag racers will launch their car with the tires spinning ever so slightly because of this and the window between grippy slow and smokey slow is ever so narrow. This is also why Senna was the greatest, he was willing and able to use this window between grip and slip more effectively than most. Michael Schumacher was very good at this as well. Lastly, late apex is my favorite apex.

[@AgarwalRajan]

Sweet recommendation after today’s event 😂

[@Awesummzzz]

Those photoshops of you guys on Lewis, Seb, and Max are so cursed lmao

[@tsino2966]

I remember when F1 cars weren't so long and wide that fighting and defending for position was exciting. The cars were nimble and microturns didn't almost always cause oversteer or crashes in some cases.

[@dylan-nguyen]

Actually when I went to the BMW M performance school.. they said the geometric line isn’t the best! There were some scenarios where an outside line were better etc. 😁

[@samuelforsyth6374]

great video, heaps of clearly understandable correct info. nice

[@falkirk625]

Thanks for these F1 episodes. They're really great!

[@takomeex8003]

"All I think about is using my tires to the fullest and having a good race. [...]If you fully utilize your tires, then no matter what line you take it won't make much difference in racing time. [...] To me, the ideal racing line is not to be sought. It is nothing more than a result!" -Jōshima Toshiya

[@bentoombs]

Loved this, and all your guys videos. Is there any way that you can do a video on Sprint boat racing? And show the world how much fun we have. A 13' aluminum boat that has a roll bar and a Chevy V8 with a pump that squirts a ton. Look up webb's slew or anything Australia or New Zealand. Peace and thank you🤘

[@christoforospaphitis4090]

Nice simple explanation for the uninitiated. Of course it is way way way more complicated than that. Late Apex is especially preferrable if a long straight is following so whatever you make up in the turn in a geometric apex in a late apex would make you way more time.

[@jelksautox]

It’s the constant jabs at Mazespin for me.