Why the TANK and SUPPORTS blame each other...

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[@itisnottaken4444]

This tank is getting healed constantly and still finds a way to keep supports in his mouth. Whole time as sigma just begging the Rein to shatter him

[@quinnhutson5566]

Worst thing that happens to a team like this is holding the other team so hard that they get cocky and run in on the spawn. The team drops and they never get organized again.

[@eyeles8887]

im a teacher and seeing emongg engage with his class better than some of my coworkers is insane lol

[@nnightsong]

😭😭😭😭

[@whelksome]

when he started doing his greenscreen bits i literally was thinking he sounds like some of my favorite teachers from middle and high school lol

[@douglasanderson8016]

​@@whelksomeWell, you can't NOT LITERALLY think, can you.

[@meowmraow]

​@@douglasanderson8016bro is so bored

[@Real_MisterSir]

@@douglasanderson8016 no think, only winton

[@HmongHeroo]

Ngl, the Winton looking like he's spreading his wings in time stop at 11:05 kinda goes hard

[@someonesomwhere8915]

Lol same thing I was thinking

[@ering7822]

10:33 hurt my soul!! I don’t understand why some tank players win one team fight and think they are immune to bad plays. They had a good chance of winning that next team fight too if they’d stayed alive! 😂

[@bronxishomenomatterwhereig3149]

Bad tanks expect supports to out heal all damage. Bad supports don't think they have to provide value outside of healing

[@GeneraIRex]

NO DON'T "FIX" YOUR GREEN SCREEN!!!! It's perfect! It adds to the content!!!

[@SquishyMain]

It adds to the video, gives it character.

[@duckseatbread104]

How that rein didnt body the sigma more often i have no idea. He was dying to feed the whole game

[@mannyj5862]

Never fix the green screen

[@Real_MisterSir]

24:30 something to also keep in mind, is you could say "oh why are my team mates investing ults and deaths when clearly we're losing this fight" - well, those team mates are gold. And they think like gold players. And they see you, THEIR TANK, still fighting on point. They're not going to consider the strategic long game here, they're gonna see you contesting cart and they'll try their hardest to contribute. An easy fix is if you start playing properly yourself. Realize the fight is lost, start backing up early, and don't give your team an indication that it's still winnable if its not. Once they see you far away from the cart, do you think they'll just run past you and feed? Especially if you also say it in voice comms you're backing up to regroup? Sure maybe once or twice someone is gonna stay stubborn and do a dumb thing, but more often than not you're the one actively encouraging them to do dumb things to begin with. If they don't see you on cart, they will not think you(r team) is still contesting and engaging in this overtime fight. So if you want to be better than gold, start by proving you understand what is and isn't a good fight to commit to. If you can't figure this out in the heat of the battle, then guess what. You aint above gold yet. Keep improving.

[@Cheebzsta]

You had me until this: 'Once they see you far away from the cart, do you think they'll just run past you and feed?" Yes. XD But seriously this is a great post. :)

[@Real_MisterSir]

@@Cheebzsta I mean yea true xD they will cus they are still gold at the end of the day and do dumb shit haha. But as long as you're not a key part in incentivizing them to do dumb shit to begin with, it may just be that they'll feed half the time instead of every time :D

[@unklrukkus]

Enemy Ana kinda carried. She had some sick plays.

[@gardenshedd]

It was truly the aggressively confused stutter of, “processing what happened”, at 5:19 where I really knew we were all in for a treat in this one

[@TheBlueye13]

One more thing that helped me a lot. Give yourself a second longer to aim the follow up shots on gravtic flux. No reason to rush things. They are stunned for quite a while. Just make sure those two balls actually hit so you confirm the kill.

[@skittlemenow]

Creating space is a tanks job creating space that favors your team as much as possible is what makes a really good tank.

[@johnlewis7715]

While playing Orissa I got to say he was a bit overextended. If your team play’s aggressive it works. Usually in random queues people play passive though.

[@johnlewis7715]

Put a mic on while being the tank. Let them know you want to be aggressive and see if they play like that the first dive. If not then play on the cart until you get a pick

[@Lo0serx3]

not in my experience. in random queues I always seem to find the people who wanna go aggro even when it doesn't work

[@titusmanlius3933]

Red team should have win the map at 20'00 video time code, a good rein would have force Orisa to spin to touch while Reinhardt pin in. In my opinion, one of the problem for blue team was the Tracer pick : this hero can't kill Reinhardt shield, can't get Pharah and Mercy in the air, Moira can fade out... the only available target is Hanzo but Red team are really packed , I didn't see Tracer flank a lot ; yes they have Bastion to rekt Rein shield but Rein seems to play pretty good with corners to not loose his shield easily and Bastion wass not babysite by a Mercy so 30% less damage boost. At 31'00, red team should also been able to win the round ; Sigma was purple, Rein could have easily pin Sigma out of los of his supports and with high ground control make red team unable to contest the point the last 60s on timebank. I think that the fact Red team change their comp for their last defense was their worst choice, their Rein was good, Pharah-Mercy were untouchable. In fact, red team would have been able to win the last defense if they were able to split Sigma with Mei pick that low elo players forget the power of her ultimate or just her ice wall. On paper I can understand why blue team want Zarya as a tank : combo : The zarya graviton ; il would allow Tracer to make assured kill with pulse, same with Bastion and Ana could help too with a good anti heal grenade but in solo queue even in gold, you can't expect people to make such plays.

[@selfimprovementlabplus]

Been there too. Had a game against an insane widow where he perma killed my dps and somehow it was my fault. All we needed was one fight to stabilize but they decided to throw because I didn't want to swap. Feel bad man ;(

[@Pekara121]

just had a dps go 6-9 and he said tank diff lmao

[@diablotry5154]

As a tank or support? If support then understandable, there's not too many options to deal with widow effectively as a support. As tank though? Then you should be switching to dive on her with a winton or dva or something like that if she is hard shutting down your dps

[@selfimprovementlabplus]

Funny thing is, I was playing Winton. But my genji had an obsession of standing still that LITERALLY 3 secs into the match, he was dead... and again and again. I did shut down the widow but by then, they had ults so they steamrolled 2nd point. And then they flamed the hell out of me.

[@ReaveIdono]

​@@diablotry5154 I kill Widows with Kiriko and Zen tbh. You can help on all roles.

[@diablotry5154]

@@ReaveIdono good for you

[@icantpronounce]

one thing I'd like to mention is you can be aggressive against a rein with sig but you NEED to keep your rock for when he starts swinging

[@Luci-pz8xx]

Tanks wouldn't need to be healed if they stopped taking damage

[@matthewbrears2129]

I love it when tank/dps say "mercy pls" just so they can stand out in the open in front of the whole team taking damage lol

[@livelaughsol7066]

its kinda their job to take damage

[@HmongHeroo]

​@@livelaughsol7066​just because they can take damage doesn't mean they need to face tank everything and expect to get all resources from supports (especially not taking into account of where they are and just expecting them to be with you 24/7)

[@BelphegorXVI]

Seriously though, some people just take too much damage and seem unable to recognize it.

[@Luci-pz8xx]

@@livelaughsol7066 There is a difference between face tanking 5 people and playing around corners

[@Waffl3B1T]

ALRIGHT SO!

[@deeflow3714]

EMONGGG DO NOT FIX THE GREEN SCREEN BRO. IM TELLING YOU BRO, YOU FIX THAT SCREEN, IM UNSUBBING LMFAO

[@maxwella.gamingps4631]

26:09 he is completely right. When Im Rein, I love it when my enemy tank gets cocky and commits to a brawl. Easy ult charge and also sometimes creates an opening to firestrike the backline. That is why I have the voice lines "Are you afraid to fight me" and "are you chicken" to spam. Makes the enemy tanks overcommit lol

[@mlad5274]

90% Overwatch Matches TANK: "No heals" DPS: "No space" SUPPORT "No kills"

[@user-pf6pw6un7s]

whenever he plays the song i boop my cat on the nose

[@Smellyndo]

the tank mentality of 'must be frontline must walk to the enemy' is real. I started playing tank after only being on dps and heal and deer lord I do that all the time

[@DarthPicarat]

Ok...the mini opera killed me. 😆😆😆

[@Grifter]

You can use more than one ultra key effect to make it look cleaner btw.

[@supergogetasaiyan4]

Man, I just want to know where that song comes from, it really is a banger song. In all seriousness though, he could’ve touched the point as Orisa. There’s no reason why he should be hiding at max health and with abilities at the beginning

[@jaytch6639]

I believe you're after "Nessun Dorma" it's an aria from the opera "Turandot." Look up 3 tenors version if you want to hear it in full ❤

[@TheAeonflux10]

Usually it’s the DPS blaming the tank 😂

[@Wesley-xf1bd]

Can we start a petition, that when you ult with the orissa demon skin, "the only thing they fear is you" starts playing in-game

[@mr.parker8014]

The Boston accent coming out lmao HEAR ME OUT DO A SPECTATING VIDEO AS JEPH

[@neondead2.0.15]

Don't be pasive tank, pls. Orisa is the one of the heroes who cant glue herself to point and NOT die. You had amazing Bastion and Zen. (don't know about Tracer and Ana, but i think they did decent)

[@imagoatiswear1938]

I have a friend who has played since ow1 and they also thought that zarya counters rein so I assume that's why the supports wouldve wanted them to play zarya. That or to help with the antis? Who knows. Just my guesses. I would be fine with having this tank on my team ngl. They playedd pretty well

[@zeos26]

Don't fix your green screen

[@button9]

That bastion kept thinking they were the main character going in 1v5

[@darthmuffin03]

The sleep on tracer was so satisfyingggg. W ana play

[@YoutubeAndy6905]

We don’t need ow content when we have emong

[@D35H4]

30:30 Who is this Rein fighting?

[@ed4307]

I didnt even know double ot was possible

[@nathanbraun7296]

The only way I see Zarya getting value would to bubble the backline when Pharah was harassing support or to cleanse the Ann nade

[@prizory1101]

its about teamwork

[@jograt_gt2903]

He should add Ram in his hero pool.

[@shoppingcart238]

OF COURSE U HAVE A TREAT, ITS AN EMONGG BIDEO!

[@WolfRites]

I miss having two tanks.

[@dawn.1227]

Violet needs to stop ying off spawn

[@ekeclout3941]

You need better lighting for your greenscreen setup, one soft box will work wonders.

[@audiobolt3276]

Every time I watch these, I can't help but feel like I shouldn't be in silver. Then I look at my aim and remember I am in silver. LOL

[@daze6716]

its crazy how ill hop on some QP for a couple games and have my tank bum rush too far deep and blame it on me for not rushing into death with them xD i love support by tanks can make it suck

[@diablotry5154]

This is why you lock bring and *become* the tank

[@curliousoakshield2889]

Dang.. this whole game has just been a blatant team diff..

[@bellolovely3851]

Please dont fix ur green screen its so funny

[@poga23]

Tank: bitching Support: bitching DPS: dead

[@marcel_x_420]

When the real problem is dps selling with 10 kills and 15 deaths

[@jimmattox8244]

At 11:30 shouldn’t Anna be healing the orisa, while orisa is taking space?

[@punisheranimations6807]

Healing ana? What is she, a support? (I’m being obnoxious because all Ana’s I’ve seen think they are playing COD or something)

[@clownmona1298]

ALRIGHT SO

[@TarhosTheKnight]

Good morning!

[@jasonlau100]

so anyone saw the tracer or?

[@beartrap9367]

I think they both at fault here but if i had to choose one it would be the tank doesn’t understand the concept of cooldowns..

[@mr.parker8014]

Am i crazy or did they add trap rhythm to the song? And it doesnt even line up?

[@punisheranimations6807]

It’s another song that was playing already before.

[@terryblack2351]

you should wear a green shirt, then you would look like a floating head

[@Chai_586]

I’m still banned in emongs twitch chat. It’s been 84 years

[@epicsum7922]

I hate how he is over heating his Orisa gun, as an Orisa main, it gets on my nerves.

[@diablotry5154]

I'm sorry for your loss

[@epicsum7922]

Thank you

[@SocksNeedsHelp]

i love emo 🥰

[@marthajimenez3421]

They got way too greedy by the end of the game. Supports were fine, a feeding Sigma and Orisa isn't their job to babysit.

[@lucaant]

Bullshit it is ”everybody blame support”

[@nuh7159]

alrightttttt SO!

[@TheTrialsHimself]

video time

[@spookiertown]

real

[@soapgod5554]

I dislike these videos because Emongg only criticizes one player rather than the entire team, making it seem as if the player he's spectating was the reason why they lost. He failed to mention the bastion, who was being walked like a dog the entire match and hardly contested rein, forcing the person being spectated to take on his job of destroying shield, or the tracer, who had very little impact on the game other than picking up kills at the end of team fights and mercy picks. The list could go on, but the point is that the tank occasionally overextending wasn't the problem.

[@TheBlueye13]

First of all the person sending in the VOD consented to be criticised, the bastion did not. He might not want to be made fun of for views and I very much appreciated Emonggs approach to focus only on the person who sent in the VOD. Secondly this is supposed to be constructive feedback for the player to improve his playstyle. Telling him that the bastion was terrible won't help him.

[@unklrukkus]

Tank players are such babies, idc what anyone says, it’s the easiest role. You have so many cooldowns to save yourself, huge hp pool, and do as much dmg as a dps. Sigma even has shield health.

[@darioignaciocontrerasruz5861]

Forgot the hitboxes the size of a wall

[@darioignaciocontrerasruz5861]

Clearly u have never played tank. The size of tank makes the bigger healthpool not that big of a advantage since u receive damage easier.( Support has also big cooldowns that keep them alive btw)

[@aecor8260]

​@@darioignaciocontrerasruz5861Kiriko two tap

[@simplyshady880]

Except for the fact that a lot of the match relies on having a good tank. If you have a bad support or DPS then you could still get out a win but if you got a bad tank then your chances of winning go down dramatically. The tank also goes through a lot of stress because they're taking majority of the blows from the other team and the other roles aren't constantly being beamed by enemies in most games so they have the ability be a little more relaxed if you have a good tank. The reason why tanks can get as much damage as DPS is because they are in the front lines and shouldn't be dying as much as other roles so they have more chances to get out damage.

[@diablotry5154]

Tank is not the easiest role. You have a lot to deal with. Supports are also not the easiest even though they're the strongest, they also have a lot to deal with. Damage doesn't have a lot to deal with

[@mathewbegnoche2095]

I would blame the dps, who plays bastion and tracer? 2 of the weakest characters.

[@diablotry5154]

That's just plain wrong

[@Teh_Duck]

wh-what? dont play bastion into rein? are you high?

[@Battleress2]

watching some metal rank games is so damn painful, but at least we have the song to soothe the pain lmao 🫡😂

[@LordSignur]

i blame dps