Why The USS Monitor was Lost Forever

[@ITSHISTORY]

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[@BenJamInn-q3o]

DUDE THE CIVIL WAR WAS NOT ABOUT "MUH SLAVERY" IN ANY WAY... ABRAHAM LITERALLY WANTED TO SEND THE AFRICANS BACK TO AFRICA (YOU KNOW THE ONES WHO WERE PURCHASED FROM "THE WARRIOR QUEEN" BY JEWS) NO IT WAS DUE TO THE EXORBITANT TAXATION IMPOSED UPON THE SOUTHERN STATES BY FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.. BTW THE UNION OWNED MORE SLAVES THAN THE CONFEDERATES. " IF THIS WAR HAD BEEN FOUGHT UPON THE GROUNDS OF SLAVERY THEN I WOULD HAVE PERSONALLY PURCHASED EVERY ENSLAVED MAN IN THESE STATES OF THE CONFEDERACY AND SET THEM FREE MYSELF. NO SIR THIS WAR WAS ABOUT TAXATION UPON OUR STATES BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT" GEN. ROBERT.E.LEE

[@mcoop8464]

As a Navy Diver, I dived on the Monitor during three different expeditions in the early 2000s. During those summers, we recovered the steam engine, turret (with Dahlgren guns) and many other artifacts. Most of what we recovered, is in the Mariner museum in Newport News VA. One atrifact that I recovered (a prestine thermometer) is on display there.

[@TMacPen]

Did you dive during the Kelly Chouest Prop recovery? I was one of the Engineers onboard.

[@mcoop8464]

@@TMacPen That was the year before i got there. I believe that was summer of 98. I have been on Kelly Chouest for other dives (sidescan/helicopter recovery).

[@joycelago1315]

Amazing story. Thank you so much for sharing 😊

[@jkn107]

The USS Cairo gunboat, an ironclad, was sunk and buried in the Mississippi River mud. With many artifacts intact it was recovered and is now featured a national park in Vicksburg. The ironclad and the Vicksburg battlefield is worth the trip.

[@johnb3772]

One of the best presented artifacts on earth. You can go inside it and with pictures feel like you're there during the war, all while being on a platform within

[@shawnburnett8761]

One of my clients was the lead diver and in charge of raising the turret and prop. They found 2 complete skeletons in the turret which where sent to Hawaii to a facility that handles recovered military remains. They wanted to bring the entire ship up but the cost to do so would be too much and they would probably damage the ship trying to.

[@brysjrichards1850]

@@shawnburnett8761 my grandfather was also on the recovery team! I still have the t-shirt from him that he gave me a few years ago

[@joycelago1315]

WOW! That is such an amazing story. Thank you so much for sharing 😊

[@TMacPen]

You might have missed a few details. The Merrimack engines were actually condemned by the Navy, and was delayed in replacing hence the Confederates were able to salvage the hull (as her drydock was flooded when the Union left). The second part, the Turret was actually efficient and had a fairly good seal under her, but once again the old Navy brass had actually jacked the turret up to put packing (used hemp) as they didn't trust his seal invention. His Steam driven pumps were actually ahead of their time. The guns weren't trusted by the Navy and they refused to allow full powder charges. The Monitor actually broke off first when the pilot house was hit, but by the time she tried to return, the Virginia had decided to head back to port (she was concerned about running aground!). Also, during WWII, a ship actually dropped depth charges on her (also causing her wooden hull damage) mistaking her for a possible submarine in the early days of sonar. I have more details, but would take too long to go into. (I was on the Kelly Chouest when we recovered the Propeller and most of the shaft in the late 90s. I also worked at Newport News Shipyard in 84 as a Quality Control Inspector, and even did volunteer work at the Portsmouth Naval Shipyard Museum! I did retire from the Navy as a Machinist Mate in 97, though most of my time was on Submarines and one Destroyer. So I do have a little background. )

[@bobholtzmann]

I also read that the US Navy did drop depth charges on the Monitor in early WWII, when German U-Boats were regularly patrolling offshore. The sonar detection probably determined the elongated shape of a ship on the sea floor, and a Navy Destroyer most likely inflicted the most damage to it.

[@TMacPen]

@@bobholtzmann I read about that as well (unconfirmed sonar contact depth charged, though I was at the site during the Navy and museum dive when I was on the Kelly Chouest and couldn't really tell, one way or the other, but they definitely didn't have any direct hit on the hull resting on the bottom).

[@redensign24]

lost forever? the turret is raised and in a museum, and we know where the rest is.

[@ITSHISTORY]

Considering the state of it, especially after the destruction caused by anchors and failed attempts to recover the ship - it’s pretty much “Lost Forever” 😎

[@StoriedHistory1985]

@@ITSHISTORY But as mentioned, we have the turret. And I'm not aware of any attempt to recover the entire ship, just certain key features which have all been successfully recovered.

[@ITSHISTORY]

@@StoriedHistory1985 When you watch this video, You'll learn that recovery attempts badly damaged the shipwreck. We will cover the recovery of the turret towards the end of the video.

[@_SurferGeek_]

@@ITSHISTORY Folks have a tendency to comment while watching a video because they feel they know better. That they've caught you in a mistake or missed fact. Jumping to conclusions...

[@keithmoore5306]

@@ITSHISTORY don't forget being depth charged in WW2 after it was thought to be a sub resting on the bottom!!

[@bhami]

11:59 Re: "laid down on October 25, 1861, she launched on January 30th, that same year". Uh, no. That would be 1862.

[@SlavicUnionGaming]

@@bhami its funny when someone calls him out for mistakes he refuses to admit he made a mistake in comment, uploader is a smartass

[@cueman6]

@@bhami time travel 😆

[@cesarsantis5116]

In Chile there is an ironclad just a few years younger than the Monitor. Is called “Monitor Huáscar” and it is still floating. Now is a beautiful museum.

[@markfryer9880]

@@cesarsantis5116 In Port Phillip Bay we have the remains of HMVS Cerberus which was a twin turret monitor from around the same time period. Mark from Melbourne Australia 🇦🇺

[@racoming1035]

Huascar has a really interesting history.

[@douglasharley2440]

uss monitor was quite possibly the most revolutionary ship of all time, and imo also the first modern battleship...lol, even though she wasn't capable of traversing the open ocean. ain't nobody ever forgot about uss monitor, nor will they, and she ain't lost (she's just not all in one piece)!

[@Rememberingcivilwarhistory7744]

You said tail end of 1962 not 1862

[@tomr1630]

1962 ???

[@rb8058]

A great story with a lot of good research and b-roll undone by the typos and misstated dates

[@grumpyoldsailor9945]

When she was brought in they took her to one of the drydocks at Newport News Shipyard. That drydock happened to be right next to the USS Eisenhower while she was being refueled. I and many others watched from the flight deck as she was brought in.

[@vic5015]

USS Monitor was so low to the water as to basically be unseaworthy. In sone ways that probably helped. Hard to hit it. Its little surprise it sank.

[@thomsalveson9360]

You did not mention that the USS Monitor was equipped with Dahlgren Guns or that the Monitor's gun crews were NOT loading the powder to the gun's full potential. After the battle, when the designers found this out, they were livid. It was proven in later tests, that had Monitor's guns been fully loaded with powder, the solid shot would have penetrated the CSS Virginia's armor. I think that this would have been good information in this documentary.

[@fotograf736]

Definitely historic ships that have revolutionzed naval warfare.

[@scoutdynamics3272]

The crew of Virginia screwed up! They should have ignored the Monitor and gone after the wooden ships! History would record "The Monitor failed to protect the fleet"

[@johnpotter8039]

I had been fascinated by the Civil war ironclads since I was 9 years old, before the 1961-65 centennial. I also read a book, "Diving For Pleasure and Treasure", where the author made the bogus claim to have found the Monitor and having left a syrup bottle with a note in the turret embrasure (in other words, the ship had not capsized). I hoped that it would be found and put on display. I had to wait to visit until the end of 2023, but visited the Mariner's Museum and saw all of the artifacts. I walked the deck of the outdoor life-size model and really appreciated how small the ship was. I look forward to a return visit when the turret is on display. I learned a great deal and recommend the visit for anyone interested in Civil War naval technology.

[@ladyjane9980]

I was on the boat scuna diving (not that deep) but on that trip, we found the Monitor. What a moment.

[@BrandonKelly1987]

Your videos are great, the amount of detail in them is extraordinary. The history channel couldn't do much better.

[@ITSHISTORY]

Thank you so much!

[@kd7alt]

My great great grandfather was a captain on the Monitor.

[@jasonglisson1690]

I have always been enamored by the ironclads. The north and south versions were so different.

[@davidponseigo8811]

My great great grandfather was killed in the Peninsula Campaign at Malvern Hill while serving in the 2nd Louisiana ( fighting tigers ) .

[@jetsons101]

Hmmmmm At 6:39 that sure looks like the SS Great Britain --- it is back in the UK and is now a Museum Ship. Ryan, this was a enjoyable watch, the American Civil War was/is a very important part of American History.

[@felisconcolor1112]

The first modern warship: Rotating turret Armored deck Armored belt below the waterline And a difficult to hit low profile There might be a few other features - a double chambered hull, for example - but this "cheesebox on a raft" set the standard for all later warships.

[@JosipRadnik1]

... and ocean going capability. Oh wait - no, that wasn't one of Monitor's key features. That's also why Monitor set the standard for a new class of ships: coastline and harbour defence vessels, also called "Monitors". 😉 As for warships with the ability to dominate the oceans of the world, Turrets had to wait for a while before they became standard. There were some early attempts like HMS Monarch, the ill fated HMS Captain or USS Dictator (which to my knowledge was the first ocean going turret ship without sails) but all in all, broadside arrangements, central batteries, citadelles or barbettes remained the standard of the time until the mid/late 1870's worldwide due to the fact that fuel consumption and the lack of refuelling stations around the globe made the major navies of the world reluctant to rely on steam only. I don't know how far the armoured belt of Gloire went, but HMS Warriors belt also went below the waterline for about 6 feet if I am not mistaken. The armoured deck is a first one with Monitor, together with the rotating turret and the low profile. Yet, all those features attributed to it being practically unfit to operate in anything but the calmest of waters.

[@detroitredneckdetroitredne6674]

Hello from romulus Michigan brother thank you for sharing your knowledge and expertise and for taking us on your adventures through time and history GOD-BLESS brother

[@ITSHISTORY]

Thanks for watching!

[@bobnash4150]

The HMVS Cerberus is a Monitor aquired by the Colony of Victoris and can still be seen off shore in Melbourne Australia where she was sunk as a breakwater. There has been some discussion about raising her but nothing has come of it.

[@timothywalker4563]

Nice video. Haven’t seen a update on this in quite sometime 🤔

[@Helpline5815]

I know one of the guys who fought NOAA to get the right to dive the Monitor. Gary Gentile is a great guy and very interesting to read and listen to. He has so many stories and he's done it all in the diving community.

[@freetolook3727]

@5:46 It was the U.S.S. Merrimack and was renamed the C.S.S. Virginia by the south after resurrecting the hull, flipping it over and plating it with iron cladding

[@mikearmstrong8483]

They didn't flip anything over. The Merrimac had burned to main deck level, and no further because it was scuttled. The Confederates built a new casemate on the hull. Also, there was no USS Merrimac; the USS designation was not adopted until 1908.

[@WayneCampbell-l3b]

The turret for the USS Monitor was made at the Nashua Foundry, in Nashua NH. Theres a plaque dedicated to the event about 1/4 mile from the current location of the foundry , off East Hollis St. In current Nashua.

[@williamivey5296]

Monitor was a fully iron ship, so technically not an ironclad like Virginia. The only major timber component was part of the armor belt, rather than structural. Building it out of iron gave its construction a number of advantages, including speed of construction and more open interior volume.

[@AdmiralJT]

Dates seem to be biggest trouble anymore... 1862 not 1962

[@Rememberingcivilwarhistory7744]

I live in williamsburg-va the turret is at the mariners museum in Newport news I've seen it and the cannons it's really interesting and the rest of the shipping not lost I think they've made it a marine sanctuary

[@flingmonkey5494]

I read a summary once that, in essence, said that one night the people of England went to bed secure in the knowledge that they had the most powerful navy in the world. The next morning they woke up to find that the no longer had an effective navy at all. The exploits of the Merrimack, followed by her battle with the Monitor, showed that all wooden-hulled ships were all hopelessly obsolete as warships.

[@citizenVader]

I actually think it would be quite easy to replicate the ironclads from back then. Motivation, money, and dedicated manpower are necessary to succeed.

[@garyschlagheck603]

Wow, that's a very exciting video. Thank you 😊

[@RaymondMullen-t9j]

Great History , Keep it comin '''''...

[@jebstuartpreston]

I saw the U.S.S. Texas in dry dock and took pictures from the harbor tour.

[@jdcochran1984]

With the exception of a few small errors, overall a good video! However, there were no "Pacific" class monitors, I think you were meaning the Passaic class. Additionally, there was the Canonicus class, and the Miantonomoh class which had double turrets.

[@keithmoore5306]

being move in 1962? searched for with radar? i think you meant 1862 and sonar!!!

[@Chips2323]

Thanks Ryan Great subject matter, Ya I lived about 2/3 miles from where the Monitor is at the Museum, again thanks...

[@edwardmyers8782]

Firstly the battle ended in a draw , the ships were covered in wrought iron, not steel.

[@jcdenton9969]

Lost but not forgotten.

[@miketrissel5494]

@16.45 mark ... sorry to have to tell ya', but the Civil War was over, well before 1962 ... I was in second grade that year - I trust the teacher. 😁

[@boomr334]

Erratum, 16:45 you mean 1862 not 1962

[@WinningWinningWinning]

You have to do a story about Glenview Naval Air Station. It’s a really cool history as far as airports going to Chicago area I believe as the first airport aviation, and I believe the navy bought it for training Michigan to fly in and off, appears like they were decks of aircraft carriers, but I think a lot zeppelins have landed there. Amelia Earhart been there so it’s very interesting to have a museum at Lehigh Avenue in Glenview or retirees. Are you there get information from the guys at the museum you know the base used to be on where the Glenn is

[@ErichBowers]

During the Civil War. The U.S. Navy had two different types of Navy. They where the U.S. Mud Navy. They dealed with War on the Mississippi River. The other U.S. Navy was the actual U.S. Navy of the high seas in the Atlantic. . . Ret. U.S. Navy ⚓ history buffet. . . All Americans love the sting of battles. But most of all. Americans love to win. That's what makes America so great! Food for thought 🤔.. 🇺🇲

[@birbfromnotcanada]

No, it wasn't lost forever, they found it.

[@demetriousmcculler9211]

I have visited the mariners museum and seen the display wow

[@benperry2412]

Despite hours of combat, neither ship could claim a decisive victory. Their iron armor effectively deflected each other’s shots, leading to a draw. The Battle of Hampton Roads, was a tactical stalemate at best.

[@whyjnot420]

One of the interesting little facts about the USN circa the end of the civil war is that by hull count, it was the largest navy in the world. The bluewater component of the USN was puny compared to today and couldn't have dreamed of taking on even a 2nd rate bluewater navy in a proper battle. But the riverine and littoral (brownwater and greenwater) forces were easily the most powerful such naval components in the world. Those US monitors displaced a similar amount to interwar destroyers from 60 years later ffs.

[@HM2SGT]

*I can't remember who said it, but monitor was described as a cheese box on a raft*

[@rocketsurgeon4461]

Spoiler alert- they found it. I helped build the reconstruction of it at the Mariner’s museum in Virginia.

[@puppetguy8726]

I think you should have mentioned John Ericsson was a Swedish/foreign national.

[@EucPete]

@@puppetguy8726 John Ericsson’s mausoleum is located in a small town, Filipstad,Sweden where I was born.

[@CharlesKrum-wb7ev]

Iron Ore: To Newport News, New york and the river fore, and then off to war. After victory, bent into a plowshare. But since enemies yet prepare, old souls in reborn iron steam forth to bear, the cost of freedoms fare.

[@mikearmstrong8483]

There never was any ship called the USS Monitor. The USS designation was not adopted for US naval vessels until 1908. It was just called "Monitor".

[@steveshoemaker6347]

Thank you my friend for another fine IT'S HISTORY video..... Old F-4 Pilot Shoe🇺🇸

[@ramonworden4844]

Hey that is my great great uncle who was the Captain on the Monitor. Might have left out one great.

[@Lucifer-qt9gh]

@@ramonworden4844 worden? My great great grandpa

[@Lucifer-qt9gh]

My dads great great grandfather

[@Lucifer-qt9gh]

John Worden

[@alexius23]

It is also true that the Monitor only used half the amount of powder that the 11” guns later were able to use.

[@Rememberingcivilwarhistory7744]

Yeah because of that whole issue that happened on the Princeton where Ericksons cannon exploded

[@mikearmstrong8483]

Only half correct. There is a lot of misunderstanding about that. They used the full standard powder charge for the guns in battle. But although the guns had been proof fired with standard charges, they had not been proof fired with the double charges that were the "safety proofing".

[@stanleybest8833]

The Monitor is believed to have drawn depth charges during WW2.

[@jaybox4284]

only one mistake. there was no victor at hampton roads unlees you count kills of wood ships. and by that it would be the. CSS Virgina{formerly USS Merrimac} as it sank or crippled three capitol ships before the monitor was deployed. and as they fought to a stalemate and ran out of ammo to throw at each other when they parted ways. both later sank from unforunate events. i will say the monitor design was far more interesting in the amount of models built off the one platform. the longer dual turret ones being the most interesting. while the CSN had many sizes of ironclad they were all the same basic layout. and by the way the were no ap shells yet they only thought it would pierce. but the engagement proved the future need for better guns and ammo to fight iron ships in the future. and the virgina might not have been scuttled intentionally. the boiler turns to have been a salvaged train engine and may have been on the brink of failure from the start.

[@filipehn8860]

can youtalk abut the swedish länakatten SRJ Uppsala - Faringe

[@kiwidiesel]

This was a good watch. Off to play war thunder now.

[@richardnelson8488]

Thanks again !! Good show!!!☯️☮️☯️☮️👍

[@Damons-Old-Soul]

16:47 It lasted till 1962?! About a hundred years off. (sarcasm)

[@panzerabwerkanone]

"two ships armored entirely in steel"? I guess we don't know why they were called IRONclads? Also how would you find a sunken warship with RADAR? They were using sonar to locate the wreck. Project Artemis.

[@Weesel71]

OK, how is testing a new RADAR going to find a submerged / sunken target? USS PACIFIC is not found; USS PASSAIC is a class of coastal monitor built in 1862.

[@dougscott8161]

It's absolutely amazing that the Union Government had also the ability to travel back in time in order to have a launch date before the Keel laying.💩💣👎👇🧠🫀🦿🦾👀👁👅🐻🦨🦃♨🚦🕠🕒🕓🕑🔥🎱🔇🔕🚫⛔⚫🏴🏴‍☠

[@NeenerOops]

Im not very sure about RADAR being used to find a submerged object.

[@JosipRadnik1]

Look at those three pictures at 9:20: pretty standard faces of their time, but today they would easily form the top three of any "manly beard" contest in any given town. 😄

[@freetolook3727]

What's that knocking in the background in the beginning of the video?

[@WilliamBrown-qx1fx]

Every other Navy has ceased two too exist

[@wingmanjim6]

?????

[@WilliamBrown-qx1fx]

The point was wooden Navy's ceased importance to steal and gun turrets

[@freetolook3727]

Question: "Why the Monitor was lost forever?" Answer: "Because the deck was designed even with the water, it tried to be an ocean going ship and sunk under the waves."

[@Quickicecarreviews123]

The clickbait is getting worse on this channel sadly.

[@ilfarmboy]

15" not 5" / if the monitor used 30 lbs of gunpowder that the inventor suggested instead of 15 lbs that the navy told the ship to used would of made a increase in the amount of damage to the Virginia / the inventor didn't caused the disaster of the cannon exploding in the 1830 it was another man's design that exploded but Erisson(inventor)was blamed /

[@frankmenchaca9993]

How can radar locate sub suface vessel? I should think sonar would be a better solution.

[@simonleyman9290]

at 1650 you said 1962 did you mean 1862

[@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665]

Granddaddy of every other Narcosub built today.. 😂😉🇬🇧

[@DEATH7712]

lol 1962? I get it , you put out a lot of good content and can’t always get everything rt but that one seems like it should have been an easy catch?

[@rossjohnson1872]

@23:10 "At the tail end of 1962..." WTF?

[@griffinclary61]

1862 actually

[@jamesendsley2611]

The first two ironclads the southern Army built the first one it was 100% out of iron made out of metal top bottom haul everything and they were terrorizing up and down the rivers and stuff nearest the damn Yankee troops they discovered a boat in iron armor unlike the southerners built it from the ground up out of iron

[@pinkeye00]

Civil War did not happen over the election of Lincoln. lol

[@ssg9offical]

Frl

[@chiefslinginbeef3641]

Bruh muh slavery.

[@Will_CH1]

The Monitor didn't win the battle.

[@freetolook3727]

World of Warshits: Don't forget to bring your wallet.

[@s.porter8646]

Wait, the navy recovered it back in 06 clickbaitist

[@MarkMeader-e4r]

Ok it Wasn’t Built until 1862, not 1861!!! Get Your Information Right!!🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@MelvinAstrahan-b3f]

its not lost, we know where it is, what a stupid click bait title

[@jokeal3613]

Thumbs down for false title

[@IBM29]

The conflict was over States Rights, NOT specifically slavery. Putting down this myth is like putting Gov. Pritzker on a diet...

[@noneofyourbusiness2997]

State's rights? Yes, specifically the right to own people and to expand the right to own people to new areas.

[@AdmiralJT]

​​@@noneofyourbusiness2997the point is still it was federalism vs states rights. Slavery was on its way out anyways as technology progressed. Youre focused on a symptom and not the illness

[@IBM29]

@@AdmiralJT Glad to see someone who doesn't go apoplectic over an inconvenient fact. Thank you, sir.

[@noneofyourbusiness2997]

@@AdmiralJT The fight was over slavery. You are arguing a disproved apologist theory.

[@wingmanjim6]

@@noneofyourbusiness2997 I think it is fair to say that the two arguments are intertwined. Neither alone represents the complete picture. States' rights is certainly the overwhelming legal issue, however. Remember, as noted above, slavery was already on the decline due to many factors. That, of course, does not justify the inherent morality issue involved.

[@Hillbillyac-gk7jm]

Please guy! I like your content, but please don’t do anything on the American civil war until you really know why it was fought. Not what they teach you in grade school.

[@ssg9offical]

Then you tell us genius.

[@romad357]

The title is FALSE! The Monitor was found in 1973 and the location confirmed in 1974! Parts have been recovered such as almost the entire engine room, the turret WITH the guns, the ship's skeg, the red emergency lantern, etc. They are being conserved for display at the Mariners Museum in Newport News, VA.

[@timothyparrish-l1k]

All Ironside was the technology back in 1860 until 1865

[@newtagwhodis4535]

Could someone please ID that British tank on water we see at 22:44. That thing is a UNIT. Woah.