Why the warbow is King

[@theradiantknight9771]

I’m convinced the easiest way to bond with another man is over a medieval weapon

[@dashrendar5320]

I 100% agree haha

[@Raz.C]

Depending on what you mean by "bond," you might find that superglue works better.

[@AviationJeremy]

The other night, the Unsubscribe Podcast crew was nerding out hard on the war bow, especially horse archers. You’re the premier equivalent of a guntuber for pre-firearm arms. I’m SO glad Admin introduced me to your channel!

[@dashrendar5320]

So glad you enjoy it my friend! Such a blast to share history, break stuff and just have fun

[@MythicFool]

Admin, Dash, and tangentially Tod, together; this is wonderful.

[@Swampy_Hag]

I can only imagine being pulled over by a cop and them being absolutely baffled by what they find in your car

[@dashrendar5320]

Yes that always makes me nervous 😂

[@brodybezanilla7180]

Pretty sure these are all second amendment protected they were here first😂😊

[@Duckrabbit_Forging]

Admin is a cop lol

[@Stevarooni]

"He was dead before I even put him in the car, Officer."

[@Psycho-Ssnake]

Look directly at the body cam and say "hi everyone, dash here!"

[@dequitem]

Extremely interesting. Learned so much today. Now I feel much mor confident in my armor😅

[@dashrendar5320]

Haha well made armor is something special indeed…I am curious how the warbow would do truthfully but I think you would be safe with the additional layers

[@dequitem]

@@dashrendar5320 you have to shoot parts of armor made by me when we meet one day!

[@bob_stackin]

Been following since the last Admin collab, honestly this is one of the best channels on YT! keep it up brothers!

[@dashrendar5320]

Thank you my friend! Having an absolute blast

[@nubbyfresh5623]

Watching this back to back with admins video just doubled up on the front of the content. Awesome video! It's always fun on the viewer side of things when multiple channels you enjoy watching come together for a fun collaboration.

[@dashrendar5320]

Glad the fun came through. It was an absolute blast, nerd of a feather….😁

[@jwilliams3170]

That’s it. I’m writing a Dash Rendar character in my urban fantasy book series. There 100% needs to be this jacked nerdy dude that is super good at archery

[@dashrendar5320]

That would be an absolute honor!

[@jwilliams3170]

I’m literally already dreaming up a way for this guy to organically lose his shirt at some point

[@DuxLindy]

todd's crossbows aren't cheap. super sick to have and I'd almost feel bad shooting it since it's so true to form and todd is such a huge and well respected name in the space. maybe he'll collaborate with a bowyer to get some bows on his shop one day

[@bh-2198]

Admin was Rendar'ed speechless for a moment or two.

[@dashrendar5320]

😂

[@ynk_8]

Man, those medieval weapons benchmark videos are the best thing on youtube!

[@dashrendar5320]

They are indeed!

[@IOSALive]

Dash Rendar, Your videos always brighten my day, so I subscribed!

[@dashrendar5320]

Thank you, my friend, I truly appreciate that and I’m happy to have you

[@egorpoltoruhin2170]

What I love about this video is that archery or crossbow shooting is a container for ideas. Ideas that you can drive 8 hours to satisfy your interest, remaining playful while being focused. And all this is seasoned with humor, energy and positivity. After watching your videos, I look at the events of the day easier and more fun for a while. Thanks a lot. Priceless. And by the way, this is a good day to be a subscriber.😆 2:16

[@dashrendar5320]

Thank you so much for the kind words. It was an experience and well worth the trip to try and relive some history

[@grbdevnull5611]

Awesome choice to include the Arn footage. That is an amazing show/movie.

[@dashrendar5320]

Yeah it does not get a lot of love I feel but it’s truly fantastic

[@TheLonghunterBowyer]

Let's go two of my favorite KZbinrs collabing again great video guy's

[@dashrendar5320]

Let’s gooooooo 💪🏹

[@GUNNER67akaKelt]

The thing about crossbows was, as you mentioned, a soldier with only a little training could do what a longbowman took years of training to do.

[@dashrendar5320]

Yeah for sure. It was pretty darn close with minimal training. Which is crazy when arming a army

[@nickmendez5546]

The English molded their culture around longbow training for this reason. In the 1200s, they made it law that every man had to train longbow, starting at like 14-15 years old. Then, in the 1300s, they passed a law setting aside Sundays for training. Where all of the men in town would get together and train.

[@thefatefulforce8887]

Great vid guys. Love the collab and good comparisons as well as breakdown of the pros and cons of the two weapons.

[@dashrendar5320]

Thanks man! It was a ton of fun to get to try out an actual crossbow. Very cool and unique feel to it but super easy to pick up for sure. I can see the allure

[@tobyward7486]

Absolutely loved the video Dash ❤ seriously appreciate your channel, each video you keep outdoing yourself. The discussion was great, and the testing and comparisons were really cool. +1 Warbow 💪🏆

[@dashrendar5320]

So glad you enjoyed it! So much fun to do to try and live out some history and nerd out

[@Couponuser16]

Awesome video. The brigandine test is such a valuable and well done test. So far it seems like, you & admin result, Tod's workshop, and Way of Archery are the only people that have published video tests that are done with attention to period accuracy as well as using weapons capable of well over 100+J. Nicely done! If you two get together again, a potential idea could be how close of an analog to a heavy duty warbow is a compound bow of different weights so long as you use a heavy enough arrow. There is a video out there of 1000 grain arrow going 200fps out of ~70lb compound bow if I remember correctly. Plus, it would probably be fun to shoot such a heavy war arrow out of a true "state of the art" bow design to compare.

[@WayStedYou]

I imagine the amount of extra food you would need to maintain the bowmen would be part of the logistics too even outside of the training time needed.

[@gus7850]

It's great that you and admin have become buddies, first saw you on his channel, hope you guys do more collabs. Honestly its amazing how interest in weapons throughout all of history can bring together people lol

[@wildhunt5817]

I love how much your channel is growing man ❤ this is truly a blessing for you and us as subscribers 🙏🏼

[@dashrendar5320]

Thank you so much. It’s such a pleasure to share and it truly is a source of joy to just nerd out with people. I have loved every minute of doing this kind of content.

[@rohanbreheny5129]

This is definitely the collab i didnt know i needed haha Made my own sling because of this channel and ive been practicing with it to maintain my sanity during my final days of uni Cheers Dash you're a legend

[@dashrendar5320]

That’s awesome man! Slinging is a great way to break up the stresses of life for sure

[@patchbeard]

I followed both of you before you did your first video together and it's been awesome to see 2 of my favorite youtubers collab

[@garrettschienschang7898]

I have way more respect for you guys after I stopped shooting my bows for a few months and I’m now trying to get back into it. After a few months, not touching a bow I tried to go straight to a 70 pound recurve and even that is beyond me to hold it back for more than about two seconds.

[@dashrendar5320]

Man it dissipates so fast I feel like

[@samuelshook5028]

Such an awesome video, very informative. Watching this alongside tods workshop is an experience. Thank you for blessing us with this video!

[@dashrendar5320]

You are most welcome! It was a blessing for me to be able to compare an actual crossbow. I have never used nor even seen one so it was a real treat

[@EeZ3-808]

I’m here from Aaron’s channel. Loves the last collaboration. Exploring your channel now. As a child my dad introduced me to archery before he got me into firearms. One of my greatest childhood memories is shooting in an archery tournament as a 8 year old boy and winning my division. My dad and his friends didn’t place, so of course I felt like the champion of the group. Subscribed. And Aloha from the Big Island. 🤙🏽

[@dashrendar5320]

That is fantastic man! What a great memory, so glad you enjoyed the video. It was a blast and a privilege to see a crossbow in action, happy to have you along

[@Gwynnbleid95]

Now imagine the composite bow used by the steppe tribes such as rhe mongols. Examples in museums are between 120-180lbs!! And because they shoot on the outside, the rate of fire is even greater than western archers. Truly OP

[@luckrequired5382]

Movies: 5:28 Reality: 5:18 Very engaging video, really enjoyed this, Admin's a menace. 😄

[@dashrendar5320]

So glad you liked it. Was probably my favorite video I have ever done. So cool to see and use a crossbow

[@Time30013]

The team up I have been waiting for!

[@dashrendar5320]

Was an absolute blast!

[@TheArchersArms]

Thats awesome man. Great video and collab. Great to see the channel grow and the longer form videos. Keep it up 💪

[@froschnmaximus9108]

a crossbow from Tod is a legit historical replica and his War Bow vs Armor series on the tube is prime watchtime!

[@dashrendar5320]

Dude it’s so well done. He really covered everything so well in those videos

[@jessebell1930]

You did the mirror image with Administrative Results? Watched that one and loved it! Gonna love this one too! Love you man!😁

[@dashrendar5320]

Thanks my dude! Right back at you

[@NoMatureContent]

"Why dont you wear a shirt?" "Bro, look at me!?" Also, been hunting with a bow for a while (gotten fat and lazy lately and have been using a rifle). I've been practising with a long sword for a few years as well for fitness. Shit smokes you. Admin put me onto your content, love it.

[@nevisstkitts8264]

If it's historical re-enactment, longbow vs crossbow, very good analysis. However, consider this: Tod made and uses his calibrated crossbow that shoots heavy war arrows exactly replicating the ballistics from a 160 pound longbow. From a fantasy standpoint, add gastro-phetes reload and Tod's calibrated crossbow would reload as fast as a longbow. Then add Jorgen's magazine. At that point, the crossbow is very advantageous.

[@grayshadow1856]

Hell... yes... haven't even watched yet but i know i love this video

[@dashrendar5320]

It was a ton of fun!

[@TheGrace020]

Awesome collab and awesome video :DDDD and nice to see the Wolf medallion out 🐺

[@dashrendar5320]

It’s school of the wolf time 🐺🐺

[@zacharyshoemaker835]

Seee these results are exactly what i was talking about. Just like the English Longbow we incorrectly decided as a culture that crossbows were effective against plate. The Pope attempted to outlaw crossbows before the age of plate, we're talking chainmail. Thanks for the live testing. Skalligram tested his almost 1000lb windlass and he was very shocked at the results lol

[@dashrendar5320]

Yeah man well made armor is no joke. Even decent armor can do good work (as shown)

[@garciatempensoniv3700]

this has to be one of the most unexpected crossovers i have ever witnessed

[@dashrendar5320]

😂😂

[@N238E]

You might already know this, but certain historians have begun to question the idea that longbows were used for indirect fire. They point to artwork of the period showing longbows being implemented as a direct fire weapon in battle.

[@aixzi_official]

Haha :D, I thought the crossbow stronger too! It's just well behind a "meurtrière"!

[@dashrendar5320]

Haha

[@chrisgodfrey2846]

Really looking forwforward to deep diving this channel and hey might even get into longbows :0

[@dashrendar5320]

Awesome my dude! Hope you enjoy it and get that bow 💪🏹

[@PeterSolerom]

I would feel super nervous loading that thing too 5:07 crossbows are scary

[@dashrendar5320]

Yeah it really reminded me of setting a huge rat trap haha. So much tension on steel

[@DANIELSILVA-cc7bj]

It's your channel, do what you think is best with or without a shirt. People will always comment, that's what matters to boost the channel and if people comment because you're shirtless then give them something to comment on.

[@Recipe_For_Disaster_TV]

Gun tube is a gateway into bow tube, and I'm here for it.

[@dashrendar5320]

Hahaha

[@tatumergo3931]

And also into more heavy harder stuff like sword tube, and armour tube.

[@TheHorzabora]

You’ve gotten a new subscriber! Congrats! Edit: What these tests, among others, go to show is how much of a *tank* (literal comparison) a plate-armoured man was in the era prior to firearms (and indeed with early firearms, which was my school period of study, thanks English/Scottish Civil War). Someone in armour could take a hell of a beating and keep going, you had to rely on accuracy and technique - or overwhelming impact damage - to being them down.

[@dashrendar5320]

Thank you kindly my friend! Happy to have you

[@TheHorzabora]

@@dashrendar5320 I just like watching people LARP and play with cool historical and modern toys. I’ve a simple mind :-)

[@bhoogvliet]

Ah admin and dash.. im here for it 💪🏻💪🏻

[@BMO_Creative]

LOL I love this video man! Maybe for castle defense, they had more than one crossbow... and people reloading them for the shooter.

[@dashrendar5320]

Yeah for sure, it makes a lot of sense for castle defense and for quickly arming troops with lower skill levels

[@BMO_Creative]

and intimidation... lol... you come up to a wall and all these dudes have crossbows pointed at you, you don't know they can't get thru your armor... until you're brave enough to charge... LOL

[@MrSHADOWANGEL999]

Truly glorious

[@zacharymorris4504]

This is the bromance i never knew i needed

[@davidlunalozano1074]

Hey Dash ,my favorite ranger!You are more a D and D fighter sometimes with a lot of exp in all weapons!!

[@dashrendar5320]

Why thank you. High praise

[@arohk1579]

Great another channel to follow lol. I was impressed by this one as it was two skilled people going head to head. The results were not surprising though as the war bow is going to be superior. It's like comparing a .556 to a 7.62 both are deadly, but the 7.62 is superior.

[@dashrendar5320]

Hahaha yeah his stuff is much more high quality than mine. He is mainly a gun guy but loves the historical stuff as well

[@silverarm6130]

Awesome collab! 🥳

[@dashrendar5320]

Thank you my friend

[@bladeRoller]

Im surprised the bow didnt outpace further, since its a heavier projectile, it should keep it's momentum longer against air resistance.

[@dashrendar5320]

It’s mainly user error, I am not a distance shooter. I never really do long-distance shots like that so my angle is not great. I am sure it could perform a lot better than I did.

[@MartijnVos]

This video really shows why English archers at Crecy vastly outperformed the Genovese crossbowmen that the French used. Still, I'd expect a 600 lbs crossbow to do better against armour. 600 lbs?! Where does all that power go? Maybe it needs heavier bolts? The reason crossbows were banned, was mostly because they were easy. You don't have to train a lifetime with it to be effective, which means you could arm peasants with them and they could massacre knights. Of course then Edward 1 told his peasants to train a lifetime with a longbow.

[@dashrendar5320]

So a big thing that’s deceptive is that steel is a poor conductor for efficiency. If you have a composite crossbow, they actually are much more efficient. Additionally, the stroke is so much shorter that it generates less than acceleration. However, it can get pretty close to range and penetration power with literally zero training.

[@themartyr9086]

First time I ever saw Dash was on Admin’s channel, oh how the turn tables 😂 Great vid brother 👍🏻

[@dashrendar5320]

Haha thank you my friend! It was endless fun

[@ZootusSuitus]

Great content as always, BUT that Chivalry II clip! I've been meaning to ask if you've played it - beautiful game.

[@dashrendar5320]

Indeed it is! I am super pumped about kingdom come deliverance 2 as well

[@theprancingprussian]

I think there is just a deep urge to break things that I can relate to Something about owning something you can break hits different

[@dashrendar5320]

Hahaha indeed it does

[@siegfriedmordrake3229]

Never thought I'd live to see the day when Dash fires a crossbow

[@dashrendar5320]

Haha it felt like a betrayal 😂

[@ihavenomouthandimusttype9729]

Imagine a medieval LARP village with Todd'sworkshop and Lindybeige as blacksmiths, Tasting History as the Innkeeper, these two as the town gaurd, ModernHistoryTV as the stablehand, Shadiversity as the lord of the castle, Skallagrim as a fencing instructor, Metatron as monk of a military order, Scholagladiatoria as the swordsmith and Tony Robinson as the Bishop.

[@Psycho-Ssnake]

Matthew Jensen struts in fully garbed in samurai armor. Sensei Seth and Icy Mike show up just to play and have fun.

[@Psycho-Ssnake]

Matthew Jensen struts in fully garbed in samurai armor. Sensei Seth and Icy Mike show up just to play and have fun.

[@Psycho-Ssnake]

Matthew Jensen struts in fully garbed in samurai armor. Sensei Seth and Icy Mike show up just to play and have fun.

[@Psycho-Ssnake]

Matthew Jensen struts in fully garbed in samurai armor. Sensei Seth and Icy Mike show up just to play and have fun.

[@Psycho-Ssnake]

Matthew Jensen struts in fully garbed in samurai armor. Sensei Seth and Icy Mike show up just to play and have fun.

[@LeR0I]

Great job

[@dashrendar5320]

Thank you my friend!

[@bastienagullo9488]

You guys really made a point with this video ! The misconceptions about the crossbow efficiency are huge. It's mainly due to the fact that most people see history as a continuous line of technological evolution. (only going forward). With such a simple representation of history its really easy to consider that crossbow is "an improvement of the bow" (even if its false). I would also add that the smaller size of crossbow projectiles allows to carry much more ! Wich is a big advantage in a military campaign. And also the crosbow can be used in an open field in a very safe way if you carry a big shield in your back (just like genovese crossbowmens). Now pray for the weather to be dry and sunny ;) and pray for your general to protect you from the enemy cavalry (cause hey you really gonna miss some mobility with a pavese in your back)

[@dashrendar5320]

All very good points! Those are great logistical factors as well

[@jonathanengdahl9045]

One conclusion to draw from this is that Tods crossbows simply are not that good. Andreas Bichlers 460lbs composite crossbow delivers 100 joules with a 60 gram bolt which is slightly more than Tods 860lbs steel crossbow that delivers 88 joules with a 60 gram bolt

[@zekeolopwi6642]

These crossovers are peak

[@dashrendar5320]

Super fun to do!

[@eirikronaldfossheim]

The inefficiency of steel prods. You'll need a composite prod of around 1000 lb and 80 gram bolts to equal that bow with such heavy arrows.

[@WOOTcorey]

The thing that scared nobility and those in power, is that the crossbow is a weapon that can allow the average peasent to be deadly against anyone in as little as a day, or the time it takes to just craft one crossbow. Where as bows took months and years of training, both on how to use it and how to aim, but also the sheer physical prowess required. The key thing about the crossbow is the sheer turn around time.

[@Mattias_Thorslidlbrodir]

I will preface this by saying that I am only a hunting archer and I’ve never used a crossbow-but I did study medieval military history as part of my degree and I went into this video expecting the warbow to outperform the crossbow. Conventional military history wisdom is that the crossbow was in every performance metric inferior to the longbow but was popular due to much lower training requirement.

[@N238E]

It would be cool to see this redone with a 1500 lb windlass crossbow. Maybe from Tod's Workshop?

[@dashrendar5320]

Those cost a pretty penny haha maybe one day

[@thekaxmax]

that's the thing to remember with a mediaeval crossbow: they were about 10% efficient compared to a longbow or a recurve because of the draw length. So that 1200 lb war crossbow mentioned is about equivalent to a 120 lb longbow, and with ammo half the weight. Crossbows have only one main advantage: they don't take a lot of training, where a bow takes many years. Inswing torsion crossbows, however, fire arrows and close to the same draw length as a bow, so the weights will be comparable. a 250 lb torsion crossbow would be as scary as many people think a mediaeval crossbow was.

[@jonathanengdahl9045]

One conclusion to draw from this is that Tods crossbows simply are not that good. Andreas Bichlers 460lbs composite crossbow delivers 100 joules with a 60 gram bolt which is slightly more than Tods 860lbs steel crossbow that delivers 88 joules with a 60 gram bolt

[@thekaxmax]

@@jonathanengdahl9045 The one mentioned is a direct copy of a mediaeval original. Design elements of the bow make the difference--all it needs is 1-2cm less draw length and the useful power output drops significantly. Also note the bolts make a difference.

[@jonathanengdahl9045]

@@thekaxmax As far as I know Andreas Bichlers composite crossbows have equal or close to equal draw length as Tods steel crossbows. Composite material for crossbows is just that much better

[@jonathanengdahl9045]

@@thekaxmax Also worth noting is that steel crossbows would not have been the norm in the middle ages. They started being used in the 15th century at a time when they were already started to being replaced by firearms. From the 13th to 15th centuries belt spanned composite crossbows would have been the most common type of crossbow. Before the 13th century it would have been wood

[@thekaxmax]

@@jonathanengdahl9045 And so, shorter draw lengths again. At the time, the Chinese crossbows are more in line with a bow weight for the same delivered power because they used shortbows on stocks, not the abbreviated things the Europeans were using.

[@Paraclef]

Hello, thanks very much for all the things you produce and share. One question, I've never found anything on a recurved longbow, am I stupid for imagining this ? 😅

[@paulheberling2750]

Yes!! Finally! 🙌

[@dashrendar5320]

Let’s gooo!!!

[@Truth.Love.Liberty]

I just got my first war bow 130 pounds appreciate any critiques or tips dash. Actually, Im kind of surprised pretty sure I could pull back even more. Just did a shorts vid today. I feel an addiction coming on 🤣

[@dashrendar5320]

dude thats awesome! Its such a thrill and challenge to work on getting heavy weight draws back...good luck to you on your journey my friend! I would be happy to help in any way

[@TheArchersArms]

I love the python bits and the chivalry gameplay 👌

[@dashrendar5320]

Thanks man! Had a ton of fun with this one. Loved the filming and the editing

[@TheArchersArms]

@dashrendar5320 it was done really good. Maybe some moving shots and some of the slowmo shots that he got would have been perfect. But this was a solid 8.9 man. Great video and super fun. 👌

[@AuthenticallyAwful]

I can't believe I watched this channel go from like 750 subs to now 237,000 subs. Absolutely wild.

[@dashrendar5320]

Yeah it’s been a busy year 😂

[@AmarothEng]

I'd mention one more difference between a crossbow and a longbow. Crossbow is likely far more expensive to manufacture.

[@dashrendar5320]

That is true. And the bolts were easier and cheaper to make than good quality arroes

[@tatumergo3931]

But so much easier to use, that even a peasant can be easily armed with!

[@RachDarastrix2]

My theory. Many different sorts of methods of long range combat exist at one point. Throwing weapons, sling and stone, atlatl, bow, but there is actually a 500 year period when people think this doesn't work. One man uses all of these methods of long range fighting, trains for 8 years straight, still does not hit the target. The rest of the tribes in the region finally accept that long range combat does not work. So someone gets an idea. Throughout the region there is a great gathering of all the chiefs of all the tribes. I've got it, he says, if we must needs go to war, we sling stones. Cheapest most effective way of having long ranged combat. Just need a piece of string and a stone. We start in the morning, in the evening we go home, our anger is over and no one gets hurt. We stay back 80 feet, no closer, further acceptable. It is agreed. So in the morning they gather all their stones, they hurl them, picking up the stones hurled at them, and of course by evening no one gets hurt. In time there is another war. Then another. Then another. Same results. But one day someone actually hits someone. Everyone is taken aback in shock. How can this be? Its been proven that long ranged combat doesn't work, but a stone has struck its mark and someone lays dead. In the region another meeting of the chiefs is called. Someone says, so it seems some people actually can get good at long ranged combat with practice, what do we do? I got it... Someone says, switch to a skill they haven't practiced. Next we use bows. So for quite a while it is people who target practice is done on, eventually proving that long range combat is actually possible.

[@paulheberling2750]

That warbow has em beat!

[@dashrendar5320]

💪🏹

[@mattdefreitas525]

I need some war brothers 😂 You guys are awesome

[@dashrendar5320]

So much fun to be had haha

[@sammurphy5079]

Your my heroes 😂😂

[@Maria-EstherEsparza]

the crossbow bolts need much heavier tips than what is being used here.

[@30-OTT6]

How did volley fire work? Like you see in movies and shows, a commander would call nock, aim, loose. But was it up to each individual archer to pick a spot to aim? Did they have sections of fire? Would they ever call for fire on certain positions? Sorry if these are dumb obvious questions. Just came across your channel after i watched the Admin video

[@NathanRoeslein]

Does anyone find not just these videos satisfying but also just breaking and shooting holes in stuff it’s like those things were meant to be punctured

[@dashrendar5320]

Man, it’s the absolute best. That’s basically what my entire hobby and channel is centered around haha

[@jamesgilman1123]

My favorite now is my 65lbs Mongolian horse bow but I also have 2- 70lbs compound bows and a 50lbs compound. And my wife has a 300lbs cross bow. The only traditional bow is my horse bow

[@reverendbernfriedaxewielde8443]

I think now we get a good idea as to why bow and arrow was used by people as long as they did. Sure, a musketeer is devastating, but so is a Native American archer on horseback.

[@TheArchersArms]

Crossbows were dangerous because it was easier to train someone with them. 1,000 crossbowman vs 100 archers is never really a question lol 😆

[@dashrendar5320]

Hahaha 100%

[@philozoraptor6808]

I think the argument about crossbow being good vs armor / more powerfull than bows comes from two main sources (have to rebuke it all the time myself): 1) Aforementioned church ban + they have much higher poundage so layman with no understanding of draw length, power stroke and efficiency of limbs assumes that bigger number = better. 2) Video games such as AoE2 and Total War give crossbowmen bonus to armor penetration or some bonus true damage when compared to archers who are portrayed as being faster but weaker per shot.

[@VinceW187]

Because all the shirtless shorts I saw pass by, I never took you seriously, but this is a well-made video.

[@dashrendar5320]

Thanks, man, yeah, I kinda started off the wrong way. Long form is a lot more fun and you can make it more entertaining, but I just started getting better at it probably at the beginning of this year. I think it’s a big learning curve.

[@michaelgisi5959]

Admin!

[@davidreed2135]

seeing Admin swinging that bow around,bring up one of the scenes i always laugh about,when the bow itself becomes a melee weapon,i wonder how effective it would be.Or how much it would take before it breaks

[@dashrendar5320]

Huh, not a bad idea to test possibly…maybe with an olde bow

[@davidreed2135]

yes,wouldn't want to break a good bow for no reason

[@dashrendar5320]

I have an old bowl with a crack in it that I have been wanting to use for something that may just be the tickets

[@Neruomir]

People just look at the poundage without looking at the actual ballistics and physics differences. A war bow arrow is accelerated for far longer due to the longer draw length before leaving the bow imparting far more of the stored energy in the bow limbs to the projectile resulting in more kinetic energy. It's kinda like firing the same cartage out of a snub nose revolver vs a rifle, you just won't get the same energy transfer. However the longbow does not scale well and going past 180 punds is not really feasible for a war bow archer however a cross bow can scale far beyond that without putting to much strain on the crossbowman using ratchet and windlasses far into the realm of a siege ballistae if needs be as it's more of a material limit rather than a physical fitness and strength one.

[@henrykkeszenowicz4664]

Vaegir Marksman and Rhodok Sharpshooter having fun. 1257, colorized.

[@dashrendar5320]

😂

[@tremblingcolors]

I’m betting that the actual reason crossbows were outlawed wasn’t to do with what they could do in battle but what they could do outside of it. You gotta think that criminals and assassins got a hold of these and were killing and robbing people with them a ton. Nobility terrified they were going to get crossbowed while taking a shit like Tywin Lannister.

[@steelgoodwin]

Shirt?....Shirt! Shiirrrt!!! Shiiiiirrrrrttttt!!! Oh thats better, barbarian man with big bone crusher. 💪

[@dashrendar5320]

Hahahaha love it

[@steelgoodwin]

@@dashrendar5320 loved the Obi-Wan reference, followed by the misfire. Its pure gold.

[@charlesbangs9663]

Do you think that the crossbows of the Chinese that used an actual bow and arrow and the ancient Greek crossbows would get rid of the rang and pierce advantage of the bow?

[@dashrendar5320]

You know I am not 100% sure of the differences that would be entailed in that for mass and FPS. Would need to do some more research

[@charlesbangs9663]

@dashrendar5320 if it did it would give militias slwho didn't have time to train advantages over normal crossbows in the open field. On the crossbow and ambushed has got me thinking on changing up some of the elite units in my writing and dnd armies. I have already changed up rules on slings and been adding them to more intelligent things as a weapon, do to what you and several other channels have been showing they can do and how they were used historically. Thanks for what you are doing on this channel.

[@alfredjr2k556]

Both archery bows make me strong.

[@willywantoknow2563]

Many can draw a crossbow, very few can draw a war bow.

[@dashrendar5320]

True words my friend

[@RandomWolf44]

9:00 - 9:40 they both rolled nat 1's

[@TheArchersArms]

I think he could have given you some of the slowmo shots to use as well.

[@digitaldogs233]

My mate has a modern crossbow called a VLAD it's a multi shot crossbow meaning you have a mag you put around 6 arrows in and you cock it back by the lever it has, which means you can shoot off 6 arrows in about a minute. It's 120lb, now ive got a 60lb bow so soon as my bike is up and running I'm going to visit him and do the same test. Bare in mind his crossbow material is very different to the guy you was with, but the distance from shot from his compared to my 60 is same as you guys. He says his crossbow can penatrate better than my 60lb bow, I'm actually doubting that now, 60lb probably doesn't seem alot but concider that most hunters shoot a 45lb bow to hunt deer still says its a very dangerous weapon, especially at 25 yards. This was really interesting. I can see pros and cons to each. But even if the crossbow guy was behind cover at my level i could still run at him using a sling shot not allowing him to peak, and trust me some slings are also very powerful if you string up a 15kg exercise band which a guy i know in Malta does, he makes his own sling shots and some are OMG!!! powerful lol. With a jagged stone or a 1 ounce led ball it would probably knock him back, so there's that to, then when i get to him my axe is just a one hit. So only if he's got the higher ground has he got the advantage, if i had the appropriate armor on i could easy rush him shooting heavy led balls or even jagged edge stone and he wouldn't want to peep. Verses a warbow that could penatrate the armor i would need so i could run because you behind a tree is less than a target than him having to show his upper torso full on. Hmm interesting to see how that would work out, also let's say he takes a shot and i dodge he's got to use a tool to re arm the crossbow while being pelted by stones. I bet from say 15 yards i could get to him before he gets to shoot off another round.

[@ihavenomouthandimusttype9729]

The Chad Longbow vs the Chad Crossbow (not pictured the virgin modern firearm)

[@dashrendar5320]

Haha my favorite comment thus far!

[@Sandwich13455]

Wouldn't a bigger iron head on the bolt cause more damage or would the crossbow need upscaled,?Edit,14.44 nearly dash's end of KZbin channel

[@dashrendar5320]

I think you could afford to add more mass to the crossbow, it could add more damage if it had more mass for sure but I don’t know how it would effect the speed