Why the West "takes pleasure" in seeing the genocide in Palestine？

#usa #Gaza #university
Protests are erupting across US' university campuses in solidarity with the Palestinian people against Israel's military assault on Gaza, with over 150 people arrested.
In this charged climate, we turn to the voice of Jan Oberg - a former mediator involved in conflicts like the Kosovo War. Oberg contends that if the West truly prioritized human rights, it would pursue more consistent diplomatic and economic measures to resolve conflicts.
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[@thinkersforum4149]

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[@damnhandy]

Stalin said one death is a tragedy, but a million deaths is just a statistic!

[@sharonn381]

The reason Gaza is ruled by Hamas is because the people of Gaza voted for Hamas because they promised to annihilate the state of Israel and kill all the Jews. That is the definition of genocide. The Palestinian government is ruled by Mahmoud Abbas, who was involved in the Munich Olympic massacre, when the Israeli Olympic team were slaughtered in a Palestinian terror attack. The Palestinian government even gives monetary rewards to terrorists and their families. Research the "Pay to Slay" scheme. Palestinian children are brainwashed into hating the Jews in both children's TV programmes and at school. What they teach the children at school is no different from what the Nazis used to teach their children about the Jews. Some people have stated that too many people have been killed in the war, but at the start of the war, there were 30,000 Hamas terrorists in Gaza alone. We do not know how many people in Gaza have been killed because the official number of casualty/ death statistics are compiled by the Palestinian Health Ministry, which is run by Hamas. A terrorist organisation is not a credible source of information, and these numbers haven’t been independently verified and they don’t distinguish between civilians and terrorists. If the figures were true, there wouldn't be anyone left alive in Gaza. The Washington Institute for Near East Policy has documented significant discrepancies in Hamas’ fatality numbers in their report entitled How Hamas Manipulates Gaza Fatality Numbers: Examining the Male Undercount and Other Problems. At least 1000 rockets fired by Hamas landed in their own territory, and Hamas have gunned down civilians who were attempting to obtain aid from the IDF troops, as can be seen on video footage uploaded to the online Stand With Us videos. However, even if the stats are correct, it is still the lowest soldier to civilian ratio rate. As Colonel Richard Kemp’s research and calculations have shown, the Syrian Civil War resulted in 250, 000 deaths, the Yemeni civil war resulted in 150,000 deaths, the Tigray War in Ethiopia has killed 80,000 people and 2 million people have been killed in warfare in Sudan. In fact, every significant war in the middle east and Africa has had a much higher death toll than the Hamas war, including the Iraq-Iran War with an estimated 500,000 to 2 million deaths, and the Congo War which has been blamed for 6 million deaths since 1996. The ratio of soldier to civilian deaths in Gaza is 1.5:1 - the lowest casualty rate ever recorded in history. The UN estimates the global average to be an astonishing 9:1. This is especially impressive since Hamas places its infrastructure, launch pads, bunkers and ammunitions in densely populated areas and near hospitals and schools. People are unfairly criticising Israel for their conduct in this war which Hamas started. If you watch the Stand With Us online videos, you can see footage of the Israel Defence Forces evacuating and escorting Palestinian civilians to safe areas and providing aid and medical assistance to them. In fact, the IDF have evacuated 1.5 million Gazan civilians to safe zones, and, unlike other armies, the IDF has a whole unit dedicated to evacuation efforts. It is called the Population Evacuation Unit. This unit uses an advanced digital map that divides Gaza into over 600 polygons, enabling evacuations from very specific areas. The IDF employs phones calls, text messages, flyers, loudspeakers and media platforms to warn civilians to evacuate. No other army in the world lets its enemies know of impending attacks, because this would risk the lives of its own army members. Using various tools, the Population Evacuation Unit can keep tabs on how many residents have left a given area. What warning did Hamas give before they slaughtered thousands of people, kidnapped hundreds and beheaded innocent babies? John Spencer, Chair of the Urban Welfare Studies at the Modern War Institute at West Point and a retired US military officer has stated that “Israel has taken more measures to avoid needless civilian harm than virtually any other nation that’s fought an urban war...No military in modern world history has faced over 30,000 urban defenders in more than seven cities using human shields and hiding in hundreds of miles of underground networks purposely built under civilian cites, while holding hundreds of hostages. The sole reason for civilian deaths in Gaza is Hamas.”

[@sharonn381]

Try doing some research. The official data on civilian deaths which is often quoted by the media is misleading. UK Lawyers for Israel have stated that these figures "have been fabricated. These statistics are produced by the Hamas controlled Ministry of Health, and then circulated by the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (UNOCHA) as well as other UN bodies. The Palestinian statistics are also deployed in a way that implies wrongly that all the Palestinians killed were civilians, as there is no reference to the number of Palestinian combatants killed. The ratio of civilians to combatants killed is particularly relevant when assessing the proportionality of Israeli military actions and hence whether they are likely to have violated international humanitarian law.” Jonathan Turner, chief executive of UKLFI commented: “Credence given to these allegations is fuelling antisemitism on a major scale and is also liable to lead to incorrect decisions by public authorities on important issues.” However, even if these statistics were true, 13,000 Hamas combatants had been killed by the end of February 2024, meaning that there is a ratio of civilian-to-combatant deaths of less than 1.5:1, which is much lower than the typical ratio of civilian to combatant casualties in urban warfare according to a report from the UN Secretary General which found that in urban armed conflicts worldwide in 2021, 89 per cent of the casualties were civilians. Israel's lower than average civilian to combatant ratio is especially impressive, as Hamas places its infrastructure, launch pads, bunkers and ammunition in densely populated areas. Other articles which prove that these statistics are false include: "How the Gaza Ministry of Health Fakes Casualty Numbers” by Prof Abraham Wyner, "Statistically Impossible: A Critical Analysis of Hamas’s Women and Children Casualty Figures” by Profs Tom Simpson, Lewi Stone and Gregory Rose, "Gaza Fatality Data Has Become Completely Unreliable” by Gabriel Epstein from The Washington Institute, “The numbers of dead in Gaza don’t add up - and there is no easy explanation” by Mark Zlochin in The Telegraph, “Close review of Gaza casualty figures reported by UNOCHA based on daily Hamas ‘Ministry of Health’ numbers proves they are falsified” by Salo Aizenberg.

[@mzaki4949]

Freedom of Speech ends where the truth about israel begins. "Every time anyone says that Israel is our only friend in the Middle East, I can't help but think that before Israel, we had no enemies in the Middle East." - Father John Sheehan Anthony Bourdain once said, "Today, nearly everything is made in China, except for courage. Courage is made in Palestine."

[@abdullahk8691]

So true

[@StupidityBuster]

Sick pleasure and petty self-interest behind this barbarism of course

[@Rexorazor]

All for the sake of the Christian dooms day cult of Evangelicals.

[@ukchub6633]

Why bad people always win... 😔 😢

[@Rexorazor]

@@ukchub6633 Bad people are ALLOWED to win because good people are poossies.

[@glennbarrow8325]

​@@ukchub6633THE TRUE STORY regarding PALESTINE -Palestine is the land of the Prophets. -Jews have no rights in Palestine -Palestine is for Palestinians -Jerusalem is the capital of Palestine -There is no country of Israel Some of the Prophets who lived in Palestine are: Ibrahim (Abraham) Lot Ishmael Ishaq (Isaac) Ya'qoob (Jacob) Yusuf (Joseph) Daud (David) Solomon Zakariyyah (Zachariah) Yahya (John) {May the peace and blessing of Allah be upon them) Ibrahim(Abraham) has two sons: 1. Ismael 2. Isaac Isaac's son was Jacob(Ya'qoob) where most of the Prophets came from his lineage such as Yusuf(Joseph),Daud(David),Sulaiman(Solomon),Zakariyyah(Zacarias),Musa(Moses) and Yahya (John). The second name of Prophet Ya'qoob(Jacob) is ISRAEL so his clans are called BANU ISRAEL(Son's of Israel). Also, accordingly, ISRAEL means Abdullah (servant of Allah). But the tribe of Israel has been known for disobedience and stubbornness where they oppose and kill their own Prophets sent to them except for a small number them, this is how the Quran describes them. Among their disobedience are: -They disobeyed Prophet Solaiman (Solomon) -They disobeyed Prophet Musa (Moses) -They disobeyed Prophet Eisa (Jesus) -They killed Prophet Yahya (John) -They killed Prophet Zacariah (Zacarias). THAT'S WHY ALLAH PUNISHED THEM. THEIR PUNISHMENT IS THAT, THEY WOULD HAVE NO LAND IN THIS WORLD EXCEPT THOSE WHO BELIEVE. What happened to them for several centuries is that wherever they ended up in the middle east after the time of Prophet Eisa (Jesus), others went to Europe and America. In World War II between the years 1941 and 1945 the Holocaust occurred where nearly 6 million Jews died in Europe at the hands of Adolf Hitler of Germany. The reason for Adolf Hitler's great anger towards the Jews is about politics and religion where the Jews believe that people who do not belong to them are animals or the lowest creatures, because they believe that they are the chosen people who chosen by Allah, so Hitler did this to them. They only got land in Palestine because GREAT BRITAIN took pity on them where it was recommended to the UNITED NATIONS and the UN immediately received it in the year 1947, because the Jews also served for a long time in Great Britain. In the following year (1948) the Zionist Jews immediately declared their own country in Palestine which they called ISRAEL where it seemed as if they only arrived in Palestine as refugees until they gradually expanded their land to conquer in the lands of the Palestinians in a violent and forced way, at the same time they gathered all the Jews around the world where before they would have been scattered because of the punishment of Allah. This is where the Arab countries intervened and there was a war that has not ended until now between the JEWS and the ARABS. Apart from this conflict, the Jews also do not respect the Arabs because they believe that they are the only believers, so they did not believe in Prophet Muhammad SAW and it was easy for them to kill Arab Muslims. Why? Prophet Ismael, the brother of Prophet Isaac, is the son of Hajar, the second wife of Prophet Ibrahim, who used to be the maid of Sarah, who was the mother of Prophet Isaac, the first wife of Prophet Ibrahim (according to their history). And after the reign of the clans of Isaac in which the last Prophet among them was Prophet Eisa (Jesus), Allah gave this promise to the clan of Prophet Ismael where the last prophet and Messenger would come from his clan. Prophet Muhammad SAW. Because the last Prophet did not come from the family of Isaac, the Jews did not believe, believing that Prophet Ismael was inferior compared to their ancestor, Prophet Isaac, the son of Prophet Ibrahim's first wife, besides that, they really are people who disobeys, even to the early Prophets. In other words, the ongoing conflict between Jews and Arab Muslims is about religion and history. Palestine is a place of Arab Muslims, and the believers in the clans of Israel, it does not include those who disobey, they are not among in the promise of Allah. There are three existing religions in Palestine: 1. Judaism 2. Christianity 3. Islam WHY ARE THE CHRISTIANS IN PALESTINE NOT INCLUDED IN THE ENEMY OF THE PALESTINIAN MUSLIMS? Christians are not like Jews, where Jews are worse but they are the same race, Jews also consider Christians as enemies because they did not really believe in Prophet Eisa (Jesus), they are the ones who accused Mary committing adultery (Zina) and Prophet Eisa (Jesus) was a child of zina (adultery), so a great miracle happened from Allah where Prophet Eisa spoke when he was a baby to refute what the Jews were saying and prove the innocence of his mother. WHY DO THEY WANT TO TAKE JERUSALEM WHERE MASJID AL-AQSA IS LOCATED? They believe that here is the very temple of Prophet Solaiman that was destroyed and replaced by masjeds, so this is what they want to restore from its original, but if you go back to history and the books you will not find any solid evidence about the temple that they claim. Rather, the Masjid Al-aqsa is the one that was built by Prophet Adam and rebuilt by Prophet Solaiman. And they have no right to it because they also disobeyed Prophet Solaiman as we mentioned.

[@seniorskateboarder5958]

And Jewish college students.

[@zhillaburns1160]

Because they are psychopaths

[@Samaa-os7hx]

They're freemason Satanists. They enjoy hearing people scream in pain.

[@mariannegaetanopulma4077]

100%

[@PaulStringini]

We have one group that denies the genocide and another that absolutely REVELS in it. Definitely psychopathic.

[@gelinrefira]

Yes, becoming a neolib capitalist tends to do that to a person.

[@taliabraver]

Hamas?

[@annwigmoreinstitute4985]

the world is ruled by psychopaths

[@Rexorazor]

People allow psychos to rule. Stop voting for someone who is very eager to come to power.

[@jamelb2230]

Western psychopaths is what you actually mean because they are the ones who rule the world

[@myriamfelix5798]

Not the whole world, only western society.

[@Rexorazor]

@@myriamfelix5798 Jews.

[@johnr.b.murray3417]

JEWS

[@petermcculloch4933]

Our leaders have shown us we are as evil as those we call evil.

[@barefoot6745]

That's true for the majority of us, too. We eat slaughtered bodies every day and expect world peace. Our kitchens are battlefields, and our stomachs are mass graves. We are funding a genocide every time we buy meat. Irony.

[@harrishumble8118]

But as a Muslim i really appreciate it all the Christians and none Christians who stands for Palestine.

[@ShaopengChen]

So, you call these war criminals your leaders? Leading to what? You westerners are as guilty, because you voted these criminals into office. Live with your conscience.

[@enceladus4900]

people around the world dont cosider those u call evil, as evil. we only consider u westerners as evil. ur government keeps fooling u time and time again to convince u ur the good ones and others are evil. its just u stop being delusional

[@milakowalski4539]

@@harrishumble8118 I was an atheist and now I'm learning about Islam and I love learning about it. #FreePalestine

[@justinf1343]

If you have an ounce of empathy, what is happening makes your head spin. We are ruled by very evil people.

[@coolioso808]

If you also understand that we have been living in a deeply unjust, violent system of capitalist-led economic order for many decades, then you start to understand the root causes of our many problems. We must move beyond capitalism. We can, but we need more solidarity and education to unite us. I offer some great sources: Zeitgeist films by Peter Joseph, especially the new one "Requiem" coming out soon and One Small Town initiative with Michael Tellinger. Any others?

[@sp-dm8ej]

@@coolioso808 the problem is that any and every political system is susceptible to corruption. All it takes is someone who lacks empathy and seeks power to spoil an entire society, look at Lenin for example. What we really need is a mass enlightenment of the people, who can change the world, there are many ways to do it non-violently or violently, however the masses must understand the systemic corruption before they can actually change it forever.

[@barefoot6745]

Clearly. Their masks are coming off.

[@johnr.b.murray3417]

JEWZ

[@sharonn381]

The official data on civilian deaths which is often quoted by the media is misleading. UK Lawyers for Israel have stated that these figures "have been fabricated. These statistics are produced by the Hamas controlled Ministry of Health, and then circulated by the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (UNOCHA) as well as other UN bodies. The Palestinian statistics are also deployed in a way that implies wrongly that all the Palestinians killed were civilians, as there is no reference to the number of Palestinian combatants killed. The ratio of civilians to combatants killed is particularly relevant when assessing the proportionality of Israeli military actions and hence whether they are likely to have violated international humanitarian law.” Jonathan Turner, chief executive of UKLFI commented: “Credence given to these allegations is fuelling antisemitism on a major scale and is also liable to lead to incorrect decisions by public authorities on important issues.” However, even if these statistics were true, 13,000 Hamas combatants had been killed by the end of February 2024, meaning that there is a ratio of civilian-to-combatant deaths of less than 1.5:1, which is much lower than the typical ratio of civilian to combatant casualties in urban warfare according to a report from the UN Secretary General which found that in urban armed conflicts worldwide in 2021, 89 per cent of the casualties were civilians. Israel's lower than average civilian to combatant ratio is especially impressive, as Hamas places its infrastructure, launch pads, bunkers and ammunition in densely populated areas. Other articles which prove that these statistics are false include: "How the Gaza Ministry of Health Fakes Casualty Numbers” by Prof Abraham Wyner, "Statistically Impossible: A Critical Analysis of Hamas’s Women and Children Casualty Figures” by Profs Tom Simpson, Lewi Stone and Gregory Rose, "Gaza Fatality Data Has Become Completely Unreliable” by Gabriel Epstein from The Washington Institute, “The numbers of dead in Gaza don’t add up - and there is no easy explanation” by Mark Zlochin in The Telegraph, “Close review of Gaza casualty figures reported by UNOCHA based on daily Hamas ‘Ministry of Health’ numbers proves they are falsified” by Salo Aizenberg.

[@НемањаРашевић]

Thank you for mentioning Yugoslavia/Serbia, people tend to disregard and forget what atrocities NATO committed!

[@neilcolley25]

well said

[@shootingsportstransparency7461]

Serbians sometimes tend to "forget" their cruelties and Genocide on the Muslim community overthere

[@dmelson7502]

Korea, Vietnam Grenada Panama Iraq Yugoslavia, Serbia, Iraq Afghanistan Libya, Syria, Ukraine Gaza. Did I miss any? Not everybody forgets

[@ArbenMerlaku]

In yugoslavia was genocide srebrenica reqak vukovar and many other places dont forget !

[@ArbenMerlaku]

500.000 thousend people killed in former yugosllavia thats is a fact!!! True Wikipedia.if that is not e genocide?!? I dont now what a genocide is??

[@rul4522]

‘The west goes down’ you’re so right!

[@tidjaniassia7260]

In Congo is almost 12M ppl died with the help of the West

[@Alexdorio-kc9yf]

And nobody cares because there aren't jews to be accused there

[@nkristianschmidt]

Who is this West and what did he do in DRC?

[@БубликПомидорович]

You mean Leopold?

[@jhanavkant3038]

Absolutely correct that a single innocent death is illegal but it is sad USA continue to do so for years

[@davidsmith5094]

And accuse other countries of human rights violations !!! While they allow Israel to conduct human rights violations against Palestinians every day for decades,,,another Europe and the United States of America look the other way...

[@misanthropyunhinged]

over a century now

[@winesap2]

War has always legalized slaughter and there’s a huge industry built on war. War is the complete destruction of humans society and the environment. It does no good and accomplishes nothing.

[@eminasalinovic1732]

@@misanthropyunhinged usa is dead . jews are those that bring it down

[@FrBr69]

What have Muslims been doing for a thousand years and even today?

[@IOAN294]

Sanningen måste grävas fram 🙏❤️✌️🌍

[@whosaround5623]

Sanningen! De har tagit över Sverige.. trist😢

[@RobertSvensson1337]

Indeed, min vän

[@khan3116-vGR]

It's the Bitter truth about the western world.

[@walidechchafnajebendourou3369]

Bitter for Westerners

[@Rossoneri87]

A very intelligent man. He is so right.

[@nkristianschmidt]

He does not have skin in the game and neither do we

[@AkbarBessir]

Well said. The tyrants and corrupters live by the misery of others.

[@Rexorazor]

And they actively seek powerful positions in society.

[@barefoot6745]

​@@RexorazorSo they get to shape the law, put holes in it, and escape accountability. Look at law regarding ped0s and how well they're protected in the system. That pretty much tells us who's ruling us.

[@Vhlathanosh]

@@Rexorazor this is not said enough. We have psychopaths seeking power and people willingly giving despite knowing these people have a twisted morality.

[@Rexorazor]

@@Vhlathanosh I think it's mostly because they're the only ones willing to take leadership positions. Since they have no shame.

[@gregorylumpkin2128]

The pleasure that you speak of is rooted in the mentality of the super-rich. War, death, and theft of other folks resources overrides law.

[@QuocBinh-us7lb]

'Belief in a cruel God makes a cruel man'. Thomas Paine

[@hsingchen5141]

Truth most convincingly and powerfully expressed. Thank you.

[@ereynacarde-borre6803]

EXACTLY 💯💯💯💯 Why is it so hard for everyone to understand the very truthful things this man has just so eloquently stated?!! God please wake up and change the hearts of the world leaders who can bring this madness to an end!!!

[@ukchub6633]

😢This is why I don't want to watch news 😢

[@annlin0515]

Thank you for speaking out，respect

[@mdshamimakhtaransari8595]

I STAND WITH PALESTINE LOVE AND SUPPORT FROM INDIA 🇮🇳🇮🇳❤🇵🇸🇵🇸

[@rehanbeg4629]

But the Indian Government hates Muslims

[@tamie2714]

Ayatollah Khomeini: "THE PUREST JOY IN ISLAM IS TO KILL AND BE KILLED FOR ALLAH. In order to achieve victory of Islam in the world, we need to PROVOKE REPEATED CRISES, restore value to the idea of DEATH AND MARTYRDOM. If Iran has to vanish, that is not important. What is important is to ENGULF THE WORLD IN CRISES. " - 1984 Khomeini slaughtered more people during the first few years of his reign than were killed during all the years of his predecessor, Muhammad Reza Pahlavi. After all the massacres of non-Muslims in Iran, Khomeini said:" In Persia (Iran) NO PEOPLE have been killed so far - ONLY BEASTS! PURE EVIL MENTALITY from a religion that claims to be the true religion!

[@fatihaa7423]

Il faut que la vérité sorte ! Et que le monde sache ! 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 vive palestine ❤libre.

[@debswalker529]

Seriously this world has some very evil people

[@barefoot6745]

They are the ruling class.

[@OmarHamisi-p1p]

But the western ( US, UK , EU )ruling class are the worst devils on earth .

[@kobemop]

@@barefoot6745 Yes.

[@ASHLEYSHEHADA]

Not all of us in the West take pleasure in this 😢 Thank you for telling the truth.

[@MrMirville]

But Netanyahu did his thing perfectly well-informed through his agencies (the most top-notch in the world) that such massacre scenes of poor Arabs shown on TV or on Tik-Tok would appeal to little White (or would-ve white) fascists of all sorts throughout the West who feel fed-up with Muslim immigration.

[@charleswilkie2097]

Hey Mr Oberg - great stuff. Our own madness will destroy us.

[@juliethurner4099]

Excellent point.

[@jamesdixon2857]

I live in the west and im horrified by what my country is doing to Palestinians, i dont tell people what country im from because im ashamed of my country.

[@johnr.b.murray3417]

JEWZ

[@ondroed69]

to who?? there wasn't a single mention of any "palestinians" before 1964

[@mediterraneansea7543]

All countries and nations are good, if no crocodiles allowed to be in higher jobs.

[@naomideguyane]

@@ondroed69 Read some Shakespeare! He mentioned PALESTINE centuries ago! All colonialists deny the existence of the colonized people. Settlers always describe colonized peoples as savages/animals/parasites whose existence is harmful or negligible. Remember: "Algeria didn't exist"

[@adventurenfun]

@@ondroed69 well, if you look at Israeli history, all you will find is nothing but someone else owning it.

[@jaweedasadullah711]

*Free_Free_Palestine.* 👉🇵🇸👈

[@carahiggs7157]

Utter crap and totally racist hate speech

[@chickensoup2314]

Hardship is a ahead of the world

[@robbinghook3571]

Well said. But the Evils have their own way doing things.

[@johnr.b.murray3417]

JEWZ

[@PaulStringini]

One of the weirdest phenomena I am witnessing is the spectacle of one group that denies the genocide and another that absolutely REVELS in it.

[@yaoliang1580]

The US led collective West are now under the control of possessed criminals and yet their ignorant brainwashed public are still under the illusion that their criminal leaders are a beacon of light for the world. How shameful n despicable. Sadly the world is not just destroyed by the evil but also the ignorant

[@thulomanchay]

One of the weirdest phenomena I am witnessing is the spectacle of one group having genocide as their manifesto and another carrying it out on that group.

[@seniorskateboarder5958]

It's very true. We have become a culture here in America that loves to see other humans suffer or get ridiculed.

[@rabbitcreative]

I think that attitude stems in part from eating animals. Live vegan.

[@jamelb2230]

Thank you so much for your humanity and And to keep talking about Palestine 🇵🇸

[@YekunoAmlak333]

KZbin is blocking me from favoring you podcast. 👍🏽. Keep up the good work.

[@delir.6488]

Why is NOT illigal to kill 1 million? Because USA said so. Because the global police said, so ( USA)😅😅😅

[@kwokholuk8723]

The U$ is not qualified to be the global police. She is a warmonger.

[@kwokholuk8723]

She is not a police. She is a warmonger.

[@kwokholuk8723]

Police? She is a warm*nger.

[@fernandojackson7207]

Who has killed 1 million?

[@alminafirman5168]

​@fernandojackson7207 it is about iraq invasion.

[@jeremyhoe3371]

Totally agreed with you. They provide arms and money instead of negotiations and make the world a better place.

[@bobjeep748]

We've tried 2 or 3 times to broker a peace deal. What happened?

[@a_yusuf]

Great thoughts, great speech

[@usmanjawaid5362]

Justice delayed is justice denied.

[@DianaOng-z9i]

Mr Oberg, each time l think of what America is doing,ie the genocide in Gaza and supporting the killings in Ukraine, l am feel with outrage and disbelief that the world generally allows the American to do it. We look back with horror on the slaughter of Ghengis Khan, Hitler and we say ah those are the time when we are less enlightened. Now we live in enlightened time police by great country of high moral standing. Horror of horror, we now realised that the country that is supposed to protect us and take us to a dream future, is actually as bad as Hitler or even worse because they put on nice front even when most people now know the evil behind the mask. My innocent hope is that the united nation could stop them, but it’s clear that they are powerless and meek. It also not possible for other nations like Russia and China to stop them because l think the US will resort to MAD because they are so crazy that they would rather die than lose. So to match them, here’s a crazy thought - perhaps decent influential people like you and Prof Jeffrey Sach, Col Mcgreggor, could get together and fight them from within with the help of the students now protesting in many universities. Anyway come November, things may spontaneously erupt.

[@dkhailiaichrak7031]

this is a very important video and it deserves more views

[@rpscorp9457]

This guys a fraud...he failed in kosovo and is a failure now.

[@equality9882]

Is America democratic country? 😂

[@malphas6669]

It's a DEMONcratic country.....

[@Kashmir84828]

Hell no!!!!

[@Rexorazor]

But it definitely wants to install democracy everywhere else lol 😆🤣

[@coolioso808]

"Democracy" under capitalism is the rule of the rich. That's really it. Only if enough critical mass of people recognize the deep instability and injustice built into capitalism and seek to unite to change the system, can we overcome this. System change or bust. What do you prefer? There are many tools for us to use, don't despair! Like Peter Joseph's films and books, Michael Tellinger with Ubuntu Contributionism and One Small Town initiative, and academics who bring the data and reasoning for degrowth or "doughnut economics" for the 21st century like Jason Hickel and Kate Raworth.

[@Polly88]

@@coolioso808wow thank you so much for explaining this. Really crucial for the next generation to overcome this existing problem

[@lorenam8028]

Freedom and justice for Palestine 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸

[@ukchub6633]

Both side are evil 😈 shouldn't have kill each other in past. Both side need to stop... 😔 😢

[@missrosediana]

Thank you for speaking what we the ppl are trying yo speak!

[@dr.kishorkumar7695]

But why have fair thinking people not condemned the Hamas action of Oct.7th that triggered the present war in Gaza ?😮

[@Ouzrighara]

It is worth reading how a dozen of people can control the faith of billions while the latter are watching.

[@vedihav6280]

Thank you for telling the truth.

[@dkoz8321]

"Becouse million deaths is a statistic. Single death is a tragedy"-J. Stalin

[@rachelgeorge6294]

Commandment matters whether it is one or millions

[@MK_ULTRA420]

@@rachelgeorge6294 That doesn't change the will of socialism.

[@berniv7375]

Peace begins on your plate.🌱☮🌱🤔

[@barefoot6745]

Go vegan!

[@barefoot6745]

We eat slaughtered bodies every day and expect world peace. Our kitchen is a battlefield, and our stomachs are mass graves. We are funding a genocide every time we buy meat. Such hypocrisy, right?

[@naomideguyane]

“As long as there are slaughter houses there will always be battlefields.” ― Leo Tolstoy, What I Believe

[@mobsiesixsixsix9785]

Fish, chips and peace on my plate.

[@barefoot6745]

@@mobsiesixsixsix9785 Fish is NOT a vegetable.

[@Hiptoys]

Thank you!

[@tobyrescue5848]

As I heard someone saying: a killing is a crime is mass killing is a statistic.

[@barefoot6745]

The sun is setting. Definitely, this is the beginning of an end for the West. The writing is on the walls. The power is shifting.

[@barefoot6745]

@SparkConversation It is a good thing if you know what our leaders are doing behind our backs & whom they're worshiping.

[@dannysavich7740]

God bless you, sir, for speaking the truth.

[@Penessence]

Because that’s what happens when empires are in their final days, they all self destruct in an ugly way and dangerous way.

[@johnnopeyy4129]

It's quite literally the Roman Empire late 3rd century.

[@marcocatria8829]

GOOD BLESS You !!!! You are an honest person !

[@daaronr]

Ok but he is being paid by the Chinese government to spread this criticism of the west as propaganda

[@maryowen6094]

This is a very good, a very hard to hear analysis of why we are creating our own downfall; we are on the brink of our own destruction because we take pleasure in watching other people suffer, we allow them to suffer, we do not intervene. Our empire is collapsing.

[@wilhelmrost5733]

Excellent. And truly correct

[@Gio.761]

Absolutely right sir!!

[@sapphireemerald6882]

We live in a fiercely judgmental world. Everything is being weighed down from your net worth to your personality to your views. And arrogant critics think they will get away with anything. Seeking pleasure in somebody pain is sheer abnormality. But here we are dealing with a mindset, and you simply can not just disappear to please a few aggressors. Even though they desperately want you to. So the best solution is to ignore them. Follow your own policies and consistently following your own path. You will achieve your goals in life. That is humanity,peace, and unity of all nations that do not want war.

[@wandererlion2699]

Thanks for your clear-headedness.

[@nildaaimini1954]

This man speaks very nicely

[@afghanlala5836]

Stop this genocide of Palestinians🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸

[@ricardomatos2686]

Excellent point

[@Milan_G]

Well said sir!

[@snipeminecrafter3001]

Thank you presentation

[@MrBrunomuratori]

Thank you for comments Jan! You are incredibly and sadly totally right! I have been following all sorts of commentators since this conflict started but I have never heard or read anyone stating things so simply and succinctly! There is absolutely nothing left to add, the "west" is acting in a truly horrific way! Thank you also for the Yugoslavia comments, I always felt that this intervention was totally unjustified but, again, never heard it stated so clearly!

[@belkiztukus6641]

Thank you

[@elisabetfalke7409]

Tusind tak Jan.

[@josecarapinha3818]

Genocide? Millions? Where?

[@albertmockel6245]

How many more dead children and women you want to call it a genocide?

[@Cyril29a]

Seriously, you can see the qatar money lining his pockets.

[@nkristianschmidt]

There are people among the do-gooders who have no sense of numbers and proportions.

[@1258-Eckhart]

It is a conflation of "interest" with "principle" (e.g. "sovereignty"). But principles were agreed before the community, interests are a matter of all and nobody.

[@Naim-p8i]

Wrong on Yugo - Serbs started the war eth ically cleansed mass raped murdered civilians - and yes committed a Genocide in Bosnia.

[@ramatgan1]

I saw a video of a 8th year old boy in a Gaza Hospital whose parents were killed in a israeli air strike and who lost both his legs as they were amputated without anesthesia The hospital is existing on diesel generators as the occupiers shut down the electricity. We are living in very dark times.

[@nanabeenyi4016]

He said dont enjoy when you see someone suffering " what a wise man

[@siyuanzuo3750]

谢谢！

[@sholeha9003]

Thank you so much for your humanity and for keep talking about Palestine. #prayforgaza #stopgenocideingaza #freepalestine

[@aekta888]

US is being led/owned by Israel for many years and so we’ve been one in the same. Our gov’t is as equally depraved. :( I’m disgusted by being American; it turns out, I won’t be on the good side when the end comes. A sad prospect.

[@ukchub6633]

Sorry to hear...

[@jmmclaughlin1989]

As the saying goes, "A single death is a tragedy, a millions deaths is a statistic." When lots and lots and lots of people die in a relatively short frame of time, we don't really process it emotionally anymore. The number is simply too big to devote empathy and compassion towards. Many of us just shrug and go, "Aw jeez, that sure stinks. Glad I'm not those people."

[@sallouhahassan2105]

La "démocratie " a l'américains et européennes 😂😂😂

[@antonmihoc4109]

Thank you.

[@eniggma9353]

West was down in the dumpster ages ago, just see what is on the tube. I am not surprised.

[@rustshoo5068]

Perhaps the head of the UN should eat his own words when he lectured Israel two weeks after Oct 7 when he told it that the massacres “did not happen in a vacuum” and tell the American student protestors that the current state of play also “has not happened in a vacuum”.

[@teguhadisumantri1680]

Sad, but very true

[@henthust9784]

Even in Libya, they called it humanitarian intervention, when no human was in danger.

[@clarke1002]

Disconnect between politicians and ordinary working people. Politicians now seem to be able to be bought by corporate interests and lobbyists Workers don’t seem to have a say. Join your local union fight for your rights locally and make government listen through industrial action is the only way for change.

[@User-xpdgh1-yu_x]

From my conversation with many Zionist in TikTok, they feel that the Bible gave them the whole area including lands now Palestians are. Therefore, they view Palestians as a “problem” to be solved. How, I didn’t gather an answer cos they were too busy telling me they have a right to the place.

[@trf5482]

Thanks

[@vijjreddy]

ANOTHER EASY QUESTION - WE ARE NOT INTERESTED IN CRISES IF THEY HIT POOR PEOPLE - LIKE IN RWANDA OR CONGO OR ANY OTHER SUCH PLACE. WE WILL INTERVENE IF OUR INTERESTS ARE INVOLVED, OR WHERE OUR ENEMIES HAVE A DEEP INTEREST...

[@lowcc7602]

You are right. Genocide must not continue.

[@zlatahollstrand4682]

Bravo

[@kiongchen2015]

Well said. We have stepped into a path of 'cannibalism'.

[@pinaywanderer2986]

Respect to you sir #freepalestine 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸

[@AbdullahAhmed-xn7jw]

They're the west are hypocrites, I don't care what they say about Iran, but as a Sunni muslim, I support Iran's right as a sovereign country to defend and retaliate as is any nations right . Why does human rights and right to defend according to the west is selective to who they want, iam afraid that isn't how it should be. But in the face of what's happening in the middle east, the west is showing it's TRUE colours.

[@CKO88]

Guess who is the greediest, shameless and despicable of them all?

[@reaazali6347]

Do i get 3 choices.

[@ralphbernhard1757]

*In February 1948, George F. Kennan's Policy Planning Staff said: "[W]e have about 50% of the world's wealth but only 6.3% of its population. ... Our real task in the coming period is to devise a pattern of relationships which will permit us to maintain this position of disparity."[end of]* America's allies and foes in Europe are still being burnt to ensure this disparity continues. *It is how divide and rule is implemented.* Set up European and Eurasian nations against each other. The "playbook" of Great Britain and the USA for more than 100 years. Read Mackinder (Pivot of History, 1904) and Brzinzki (Grand Chessboard, 1997).

[@DiogoJ1]

Putin.

[@nancytai1550]

Well said!

[@albertfoo7952]

Well said 👍👏

[@nelsonc3984]

Because they don't care!

[@andre8860]

Watching from Russia Amen to that and thank you sir 🙏

[@WealthandHealth533]

Very brave and noble sons and daughters of our world. Standing up for truth, justice and humanity. Allah Almighty guide, protect and bring their efforts to fruition for the innocent people of Palestine. Ameen.

[@Bee123R]

It is human hypocrisy.

[@jackbottomly4420]

Good Points ! !

[@CalmCap-xt1vf]

Truth succinctly put, thank you for caring about Palestine