Why they won't let you buy your dream car or bike | ThisConnect Ep 03

[@shu_mar]

Here's the point that I think we missed making. 1. There is room for smaller volume vehicles now. I don't know that 10 years ago I could have said this with such confidence. But today, we have better information. Most of the 2- and 4-wheeler brands are sitting with under 5 per cent market share. Many sit with less one per cent. That's nuts. It means that the volume market won't come around to their product unless something exceptional happens. This is a conclusion with some time-history now. Which means you need a different strategy. If the mass-chase doesn't work, they must target niches with smaller volumes and larger profits. It's inevitable. Remember that 10,000 people is 0.56% of 1.8 billion. There are motorcycle brands that sell less than this annually and make working business cases to their bosses for a business that small. 2. You cannot break the market leader's hegemony with products that compete directly. This *cannot* be done. It never works. There are entire books as well as important chapters in seminal books dedicated to this idea. You can't beat Maruti by making a better Maruti than them! You _have_ to make something different! It took an Activa to challenge the Splendor. None of the 100cc machines, between 1984 and now (38 years!) did anything significant! Thanks @SagnikGhose for making me think further on this.

[@sagnikghose]

Well said, Shumi, this makes the problem clearer. The only fly in the ointment, so to speak, is (and I am putting on a VC Fund/ Angel/ investment bank hat now), that this is not a scalable proposition. Is this a great business idea which can make good money and generate healthy profits? Sure. But can this go for x to 100x in 5 years? Unlikely. Therefore, is this something that a VC/ large investment bank would like to pump in money into? Possibly not, because unless they can see at least a 5 ~ 6X return at the end of 8 ~ 10 years, there is no way they would risk their money into building this ecosystem. Therein lies the rub. Without substantial capital and the ability to sustain consistent and substantial losses for at least half a decade, which is possibly the length of time we would need to drive a habit change, this ecosystem cannot be built. Here's live proof. These are Ather numbers between 2019 to now. And they will be able to sustain this till economies of scale kick in. Year Revenue (In crores) Profits/Loss (In crores) FY 2019 Increase 11.7 Decrease -107.5 FY 2020 Increase 48.8 Decrease -219.9 FY 2021 Increase 79.8 Decrease -233.2 FY 2022 Increase 408.5 Decrease -344.1 While you and Karthikeya were looking at it customer backward, I was looking at the problem statement business/ investment backward, and that is probably why our sentiments differed. Thank you for putting the word out there anyway. Even if one manufacturer hears the resounding sounds of all these enthusiasts (including me) and brings in an exciting product, economies be damned, its a small battle won! Sagnik

[@shu__mar]

@@sagnikghose I disagree at the very start. Everything doesn't need to scale massively to work. It's a dummy we've been sold. Almost nothing *needs* to be 100x in 5 years. This is why our expectations, the products we buy and how we consume things, including content, is in disarray.

[@sagnikghose]

Of course it doesn't, Shumi, but without the promise of it being scalable, VCs won't fund it, because it is not an exciting enough for them, because ROI won't justify the size of the check. But the automobile sector needs massive investments, which is where traditional bank loans won't work, so you would need someone with that sort of financial might to fuel the beginning and growth. It's a vicious cycle, Shumi. :(

[@shu_mar]

@@sagnikghose Just give it time. The scalable-100x growth model has a fundamental flaw. It’ll fail and then we’ll relearn that enough is more important, more sustainable and more satisfying than more.

[@sagnikghose]

@@shu_mar Of course it has a flaw, which is why it has failed in multiple occasions, 1920, 1982, 1991, 2008, WeWork, FTX, all of it is tied down to the same flaw that you refer to. The funding winter now, and billions being wiped off valuations is tied in to the same flaw. But I have given up hope because we never seem to learn. People talk about CAC to LTV ratio all the time, and yet, it all gets chucked out of the window when the promise of unlimited returns loosens the purse-strings. It's hopeless is what it is.

[@RAYP90]

So luckily KZbin gave me a basic idea of this channel today and i subscribed immediately. Why? 1. More Voice, Less Music: Check 2. Real enthusiats: Check 3. Simple & Informative: Check 4. Singhee:Shumi in one frame: Check What a channel man, keep it up, hope it becomes the top auto lovers page on youtube. Oh btw, Swift Sport, the only one whose reviews i keep seeing on CarWoW UK and hope Maruti brings it in here.

[@motorinc]

Thank you so much! Welcome to the MotorInc family!

[@technotv3227]

Yeah that PD was such a sell out channel right from the Beginning !

[@suhasbharadwaj3645]

22:23 This bit on KTM Europe is eye opening. I being an engineer myself and working for a product totally get that the KTM guys are so connected with the product and the sport it is associated with. It makes all the difference in how it is conceptualised, manufactured and tested.

[@motorinc]

It's true also for enthusiast and serious riders we meet at various brands. It's just that for most 2W brands, they're the exception whereas in the European and Japanese companies (at their homes), they're the rule!

[@nomnommonsterr]

They deserve their success. Every iteration they bring something new to the motorcycle. Real king. However, don't like their subscription model with their new adventure 890 though.

[@jacquesnikolaiborder2751]

Ford Focus RS. I would've stayed Single and saved all my money and dedicated my life towards owning a Ford Focus RS. I absolutely love that car to bits.

[@motorinc]

❤️‍🔥

[@sandesh9225]

These two are like the Hammond and may of India we must protect them at all costs😄

[@sivajay968]

I see where you are coming from and I respect that, but "Hammond" was a terrible driver and these two deserve their own fame and name.

[@sivajay968]

I remember Hammond for not his quality conversation, but being goofy and crashing now and then

[@sandesh9225]

@@sivajay968 he was saved multiple times by jezza the legend Clarkson so I see what u mean 😂

[@motorinc]

Arrey arrey arrey. Huge references to drag us into the same place as. We're just happy to have the Kartik and Shumi of India with us at MotorInc!

[@shu_mar]

Haha! Thank you! But... what @MotorInc said 😄

[@NashCars]

I bought FZ16 with my first salary, first thing. No donation to any temple, no pledges honored to any cousins, no bank fds, rds started nothing, nada. All of my first salary went into FZ16. Ironically by the end of the month, I already was asking for money from my peers coz I had filled my baby tank up with whatever change was left in my newly incorporated salary account...... Have been waiting for 15 years since to have the same feeling with a Yamaha. May be 16th year is going to be lucky just like my Fz16, which by the way runs exactly how I took it out from the showroom 15 years back and still making memories with it on along with my daily office commutes. Love you guys for bringing out my plight in the open. I feel "naked" now ( all the pun intended 😊)

[@mohdkhajanaseeruddin537]

You guys are the reason, I got back to riding a bike after 20yrs at the age of 43....and o man o man! Its literally reliving! Had a small road block to this dream when I first bought the RE bullet in 2019(it was my dreak bike as a young fella...I had an Ind suzuki back then...) and ended up selling it in just 3 months despite atleast 10 trips to the workshop and a chasis replacement! Wthat an awful exp...RE bikes are some baba azam period....it was even worse experience than owing my rundown suzuki 20 yrs ago....however, it was you guys who kept the fire in me lit....I finally got home my duke 390!! And wow! What a ride it has been since!!! Thank you so much guys...respect and love 🙏❤️

[@motorinc]

Wow! Welcome back!

[@insolidusyt]

Small fact about Yamaha in Japan. Their employees are not allowed to drive any bike that is not a Yamaha into their office. I have a friend who works there so this is true. Also, being an ex-Mahindra RnD employee, I'm happy to hear the compliment. I had fun time while I worked there and can confirm that a good chunk of people who work there (especially the younger ones) are either enthusiasts or become aspiring ones.

[@motorinc]

Good to know Aditya! Yes, we know that Yamaha has that rule. We wish more companies in our business had rules that forced you to ride and drive to do better work too... even if it meant other brands are in use.

[@rscsingh7848]

🤣🤣🤣🤣 I live in Jamshedpur. So back in 2013-14, Tata Motors, here, made a similar imposition on its employees. As a result, their employees started dying of depression because Nano & Indica felt worse than their trucks (pun intended 😝😳😝).

[@roadsridesandbeyond6502]

Found this channel yesterday and have been watching back to back episodes without ff…saw my wife yelling at me multiple times without any sound and my tshirt almost lost its elasticity to my kids…yet I dint take out my AirPods…very satisfying!! Hats off!!

[@motorinc]

Ahahaha! Glad you’re loving the MotorInc experience!

[@ronniejindal3055]

Lol what a comment!

[@bindassanki]

I would've loved to buy a Yamaha MT03. KTMs are fun, but the sheer smoothness that Yamaha bike offers is something that I would have seriously considered.

[@motorinc]

Good choice!

[@sss23]

MT03 for sure ❤

[@jashsylde8136]

MT03 has a twinner. Its obviously better and smoother. i hate the Fz25 however, its terrible at vibes.

[@saurav_varma]

I'm so glad that someone is talking about the 86. I've been keeping a separate fund for the 86 (since I started earning) if it ever comes to India. I'm ready for it, bring it home Toyota.

[@motorinc]

A Hachi-Roku fund is crazy cool!

[@shu_mar]

Why didn't I think of this!

[@SirKart]

I need your name, address and telephone number. I’ll move in next door. All for the 86!

[@AnimeshDasAsmo]

The best one yet. You two are getting in to a solid groove, and are unapologetically being yourselves.

[@motorinc]

Thank you very much!

[@debmalyapal6936]

Such a heart to heart coversation and they are so ON POINT. Loving these podcasts guys. Emotional connect is there man!

[@motorinc]

Thanks Debmalya!

[@tanumoynandy6166]

To answer the last question put up to viewers : MT-03. Absolutely loved it after trying it around in SJ, California. When i finally had the money to buy one Motorcycle, i used to google launch dates and various blogs/websites gave out random dates that kept on being pushed further into the future. Ran out of patience, zeroed in on Duke 390 & RE interceptor. Ended up with the 650.

[@MisterBongo]

Such a meaningful discussion! Someone had to bring this up and I am glad you did. Given a chance, I would have the Honda CB500X. I checked in Q1 of this year, the showroom guys were "expecting" the 2022 version and now we are few days away from 2023! The sad part is, they are not even selling the older version.

[@motorinc]

Yes, the CB500X saga, from prices to actual sales has been strangely lackadaisical for sure!

[@iqbalsingh6425]

If the Honda 500X was available, I would have brought it. But Taxes and rules made it unviable to sell in India.

[@shu_mar]

@@iqbalsingh6425 I don't think it's a taxes and rules thing -- then all bikes should've been unviable. I think Honda's big bike division is either being lazy.. or more likely, the Japanese teams are making decision that the Indian teams ideally are better placed to.

[@Naps56]

@@shu_mar Japanese automakers are waiting for clarity from India's policymakers about the ICE v/s EV playing field they have created. Indians don't know Greta Thunberg', so they buy more Honda Activas in a month than all EV brands can push out in a year. It will take a Tesla or BYD 2-wheeler to change that. Because these brands spend huge sums on R&D, while the leading Indian EV scooter brand hires a dog for clickbait on social media.

[@rohitkejriwal1]

- Finally someone bought this topic up. I bought a VW Polo GT (1.2L, DSG) in 2017, while I love every bit of the car, I have always felt a bit short changed. The international spec Polo GT came with a 1.4L TSI engine and a 2 door version, better brakes, better quality interiors (soft touch dash). For two wheels, I always hoped for something from Yamaha. I always thought the Tracer 700 would be perfect for India, but with Yamaha making FZ with less power every generation it showcases their conservative approach. Kudos to RE and specially Sid Lal for turning around the company and are really making bikes which people can enjoy. Loved the podcast.

[@motorinc]

Spot on! Thanks Rohit!

[@chiraghegde9128]

I thought i lost the best motor enthusiasts when British trios left, but was glad we have shumi and his buddies ❤️

[@motorinc]

😱♥️

[@fleabass2604]

What brittrios?

[@rahulbhagat8139]

​@@fleabass2604Top Gear.

[@jashsylde8136]

@@fleabass2604 Jezza, Hamster and CaptainSlow

[@kshkdutta8]

For some reason, while I listened to these two legends speak, I constantly have the name Honda CRF running in my mind 😅 An absolute gem of a podcast. Brands might as well pay heed, because we as consumers will to what these two have to say!

[@SirKart]

Kartik: Keep calm and motor on! Shumi: Don’t stop till you get what you want. MotorInc: Let’s get together and fix this. Hehe

[@adhish_travellens]

There is so much to unfold in this topic and podcast. Having been in three roles so far in life - first as a motoring journalist, second as PR guy with an automotive company and third as an enthusiast, I have my own views which are pretty aligned to what you say. I can relate, once again, to so many stories here. I was also there for the CBR250 ride at Bira. I came back and booked that motorcycle off immediately. Had the first one in Pune back then and loved her. I also reconsidered getting her back now from the guy whom I sold her to. Coming back to the sexy cars and bikes that we don’t have access to - well, mostly it’s because of two reasons (from my understanding I developed while working inside an automotive company): 1. The pain of setting up the whole ecosystem. It’s not only about the car or bike, but it’s also about its spares, technicians to handle them and having a network across the (vast) country that we live in. 2. The tax structure and ease of doing business in India is not the best, to say the least. This means that the headache to make this happen over the benefits in P&L doesn’t work out. And as far as brands like Ducati who manage to bring their entire range as against those can’t, the difference is that the halo products is all that Ducati has. That’s their bread and butter. Unlike a Honda. Ducati can do that because all their resources are focused only on these machines while for others that’s not the case. Finally, also a word of appreciation for Ducati (without sounding like I am being paid for this), is that they have people with their heart at the right place. I remember riding with Francesco (I hope I remember the name right) in Rajasthan. He is their global head of sales. And he was pulling wheelies all around. These are the guys who can make sale happen! So is the case with their Indian team starting from MD to Comms to Service network. Everyone is an enthusiast!

[@motorinc]

But Adhish, what growth occurs without pain? 😄

[@ajayadhiya2010]

Hi, Ashish! Good to see you here, long time no see...well said..

[@sinner_ra]

Excellent discussion guys! I think the way the Honda (2W) is operating in India is analogous to how Fiat operated, before it left India. Fiat was more interested in selling their diesel engine (1.3 MJD) to other manufacturers (Maruti, Tata, Chevy etc) and didn’t pay much heed to their own capable products - Punto/Linea which eventually led to their demise. After Fiat’s departure, FCA is still doing the same. Selling their 2.0 MJD to Tata/MG and trying to survive on just one car - Jeep Compass. Honda is focusing more on the likes of Activa with no real intention in selling their more powerful bikes. Either they don’t offer them, or offer them at eye shattering prices! So much for their ‘don’t fix it, if it ain’t broke’ strategy.

[@motorinc]

Thanks Rahul! Yes, the Honda gameplay doesn't sit well with us either. And it's been _years_ without a spark in some ways.

[@nomnommonsterr]

I remember seeing R15 for the first time and thinking to myself 'man, what a weird looking motorcycle with a cycle tyre'. I had made up my mind it's a crappy motorcycle and I was never more wrong in my life till date. Yamaha had made a perfect track tool and there was nothing like it in the Indian market than. They showed a 150CC bike could out perform all the other motorcycles in the market in terms of everything. It was an instant love as soon as I test rode. It was my motorcycle that introduced me to the track and a couple of pan India tours on it. It paved the way for KTM in India. I feel heartbroken that Yamaha is still milking the last drop out of that engine with refreshed stickers now. Where are we now? V4? they had such nice apportunity to climb up the bigger CC ladder and they just concentrated on scooters. They forgot their true loyal customers. At least put that 150 mill into an off-road chassis and you'll have a successful motorcycle again. It deeply saddens me that a company like Yamaha is literally committing suicide in front of our eyes. Also, despite knowing T7 potential all over the world, instead of increasing their production capacity they decide to slap a new updated price sticker on it every now and then. What a tragedy. A tale for our grand kids 💔

[@motorinc]

Too right you are Mugen! 🤜🏽🤛🏽

[@sushrutdongargaonkar2073]

Kudos to you people for keeping the flag up for genuine automobile enthusiasm. Answering the question, I would have seriously given thought to 1. Yamaha 750s- preferably the R7 2. Swift sport in 4 door guise 3. Honda Jazz with the 1.5 litre engine

[@motorinc]

Thanks Sushrut! Good to see you here!

[@theXplorerRS]

Like always, great session. I just wish it was a little bit long, felt like it was over in a heartbeat. Liking the new setup and lighting, it's pleasing to the eyes. I hope you guys keep it this way. Now, coming to the bikes I would definitely put my money on (today): 1. Honda CBR 250RR 2. Suzuki GSX 250R 3. Yamaha XSR 155 4. Honda Rebel 500 5. Yamaha YZF R3 Coming to the bikes I would definitely put my money on (3-5 years time): 1. Yamaha MT 07 2. Tenere 3. Kawasaki KLR 650 These ones come to mind. But I have something to add, I did a shoot for Benelli once and got a chance to talk with someone higher up in the organizational structure (Aadishwar). I enquired why are we not getting the mainstream benellis that are available globally, he explained that the same model that sells outside has to be tweaked for India to get certified here. And most brands don't want their bikes to be tweaked a certain way JUST to pass certification. (Or they won't bother making the changes). He also said that there is a lot of beurocracy in India as compared to anywhere else in the world, which gets in the way of them launching a product like that. Anyway, thanks for the podcast. Make them long, no one is getting tired of listening to you guys. Keep riding and keep being awesome.

[@motorinc]

Thanks TheXplorer! The bureaucracy claim is true -- we do have a lot of it -- but in the same breath, its the playing field. No leader, in any field we know of, got to the top while resigning themselves to the nature of the playing field

[@theXplorerRS]

@@motorinc True that. One has to roll his sleeves and do something about it.

[@adithyanarayanr]

The Yamaha R3 is one motorcycle I would’ve definitely gone ahead and purchased if they were selling it at the dealers. The point you guys mage about Yamaha is spot on. They are taking us, the Indian motorists, for granted. Case in point - the MT15. The biggest gripe about the first generation was the steep price and lack of dual channel ABS. And what do they do with the second generation. Slap on a golden-coloured USD and push it off the factory with an even steeper pricing. Hondas too, with their ridiculous pricing strategy for both the 500X and CB300R (I own one), are toeing the same line. P.S. - Nice to see the ‘daylight mode’ on the podcast. Would be great if you could insert the slides of the motorcycles you think the audience might not be familiar with. The podcast would become even more helpful if we discovered unknown motorcycles from here.

[@shu_mar]

I don't want them to sit back and listen. I want them to think, go find new vehicles on Google if they must. Glad you like the "daylight mode!"

[@adithyanarayanr]

@@shu_mar I see

[@BikingBeast]

Brilliant podcast. Great insights into various products and companies by Kartik. Shumi’s truth bomb at 29:18 is spot on. Loved it! Loads of love to you two.

[@motorinc]

Thank you Biking Beast!

[@shu_mar]

Thank you BB!

[@SirKart]

Hola bro! Lotsa ❤. Thanks for the encouragement.

[@Jeru_on_the_road]

I know rite

[@abhisheksaini4034]

"Words given to emotions" the podcast is still echoing in my mind. Very true indeed. The motorcycle that I miss the most here in India is Yamaha r3. Although I own a Kawasaki Ninja 300, a motorcycle of nearly the same category but still I miss the in line symphony and buttery smoothness that that bike offered.

[@motorinc]

♥️♥️

[@PranavShroti]

Car - Ford Endavoure, been saving up for this, but than Ford pulled the plug. Bike - Honda CB500X no doubt about it… hands down.

[@motorinc]

Good choices! The Endie is obviously only a used car now. And the CB500X is just such a wasted opportunity for Honda to drive home why it's the world's most respected motorcycle company!

[@akshaymurukate7163]

As you said R15 has link monoshock, can you explain more about it like how it's different than others. (Cause I was wondering what that link is for and why it's there) Can it be even better if they put adjustable shock with link?

[@motorinc]

Even better if adjustable? Yes. The link is a lever that changes how much the wheel's travel (up and down) causes the suspension to compress or expand. It makes a small suspension unit more useful, as it were

[@akshaymurukate7163]

@@motorinc thanks for replay. Do you know any aftermarket/custom adjustable r15 shock I can get in india?

[@akshaymurukate7163]

@@kwaufwhesjwjks1753 on oyher bikes the the attachment point where the bolt goes directly attaches to the swingarm (so wheel travel = damper travel approx), while in r15 first it attaches to a rocker which attach to link wich attches to swingarm, by this mechanism wheel travel > damper travel (which has above mension benifits).

[@sujairajapaul6342]

It’s so refreshing to see this kind of content here. This is amazing. Thank you for doing this. Gives us hope. As for the topic of discussion, its not just limited to the automotive sector, we’ve been shafted elsewhere as well. I disagree with people that say we are a difficult market. We are a market and we pay. We are “Value” conscious, not just price conscious. People mix it up and take what comes their way. And this is seen in the service meted out at dealerships of luxury brands. I wish Honda would price the AT right, or at least Yamaha brings in the Tenere. I sold my ST and have been waiting to upgrade so yes am ready to put down the cash if the product is made available at the right price!!!

[@motorinc]

Absolutely right. We do have money and we are willing to pay. But most brands are busy focussing on their dull core products (which is fine) but ignoring the more exciting outer layer of fun products (which isn't)

[@randhirhindi]

My Honda highness is a beast. No vibration no heating good mileage.

[@scollege8771]

Hello Motorinc btw huge fan of shumi, big suggestion pls add pictures or shot clips of the vehicles u were taking about. I had no idea what you guys were talking about as i am a newbie into this world of automobiles(as most of the viewerws)

[@shu_mar]

Hey S! I'd say pause and google. You'll learn more this way. I don't think adding vehicle photo popups is the way. I want you you to think and learn, not sit and listen.

[@adim3190]

Yes pls do that

[@akshaykrishnan5768]

The bike I would’ve absolutely bought was the Yamaha R3. I eventually upgraded from my R15 (because Yamaha sacked the R3) to the G310R(which I absolutely love). But god do I miss the R3. Next upgrade would happen in another 2-3 years(middle weights), hoping the manufacturers don’t do what Yamaha did. Another point is not only about the product that we want, that they won’t let us buy, but about the lack of services that comes along with the product on the global market, that we don’t get access to. Like the BMW guys have tons of options when it comes to their bikes, where even the seat height for the F900R had 5 options. But we get only one option. This is just a very small example of how we get the base product and none of the stuff that comes along with it. People who are willing to pay 12L for a 900, won’t be hesitant to pay a little extra for the stuff that would make their riding better.

[@motorinc]

The second point we do understand that the logistics challenges for the brand can be difficult when volumes are low. It’s not impossible though. The first one? 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@ThulasidharanS]

Mind Blown! You guys spoke the heart and mind of all the enthusiasts especially with the Honda and all the fun things they failed to bring to India.

[@motorinc]

Thank you!

[@vishalsandal1053]

I recently was in discussion with my manager a few days back regarding the same that buying capacity of Indian Consumers have increased but the brands are not ready to cater the demand and continue to give us products which does not make any sense in terms of their competitions. I totally agree with you guys in terms of Japanese brands not keeping up with the competition. Shumi have correctly summarised that the brands are focused on Transactional buyers/volumes instead of enthusiasts. Loved the content can't have enough of it ☺

[@TheOtherBigGuy]

I just bought a 5 year old Polo GT TSI, if the manufacturer had offered me the European Polo in the current version here today with good parts, i was willing to pay good money had wverything saved down as well. All I got was Polo to be discontinued in India :/

[@srivatsa_m]

This conversation reminds me as a kid i used to cut out car/bike pics from newspapers & magazine’s making a wish list of sorts that i would buy when i had the money. Sadly none of them exist anymore or over the top pricing due to our taxation policies or low sales numbers like you guys talked about. Anyways, My wish list currently are these - Bikes - R3, ZX6R, Daytona 675R, Honda sub 500cc supersport, ........ Cars - Polo, Civic, Abarth Punto, Swift sport, Figo diesel, Cedia, ...... Damn putting this comment made me even frustrated & sadder 😠😤🥺😭

[@halfbikr]

900cc Activa 😆 Coming to your question. I was very eager to get the Yamaha R3. When it was on sale, i didn't have the money, now when i have the possibility to buy it, i can't buy one. The current gen makes me drool, hopefully one day they launch it and hopefully i will be in a position to get it!. 💙

[@motorinc]

There's always hope...

[@SumeetChalak]

My most recent purchase was the Honda CB300R, about 4 months ago. I am a Yamaha fan through and through, so would've either gone for the MT03 or the R3 had I been given a choice by the manufacturer.

[@motorinc]

❤

[@pj90971]

On point, no bullshit! Pure conversation!

[@motorinc]

Thank you very much!

[@SirKart]

This comment is an embodiment of the statement itself! 💪 Snappy suggestions for us? 😊

[@pj90971]

Just a suggestion or call it a demand! I ride a Himalayan and I love big bikes, so maybe if you guys could share hacks to deals with problems that Himalayan has or any other such big bike has and create a feedback video for the companies and an educational video for us. Would be a great help!

[@shu_mar]

@@pj90971 What a terrific idea! Feedback noted and appreciated!

[@speedbikers]

Thanks for starting these podcasts. You two are my most favourite auto journalists. I don’t have to keep subscribed to @powerdrift anymore 😀😀

[@motorinc]

Thank you very much! Check out the new episode!

[@tarun8601]

As usual such an excellent episode! Loved the conversation! Kudos!

[@motorinc]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@shu_mar]

Cheers!

[@TheRoamingDelhiite]

Bike - Yamaha R3 is the bike which I would have bought but Yamaha discontinued it. Car - Maruti Suzuki Esteem, brilliant car to drive but no longer sold in the market.

[@motorinc]

Thanks for sharing

[@kaushikdas9477]

Volkswagen Polo the internation version. But sadly due to the sub 4 meter rule its never launched in India. These podcasts are like very on point. Keep it going man.

[@motorinc]

Thank you Kaushik!

[@anuragsiddhu465]

now this setup is much much better ..and your content is always good ..keep up the good work.

[@motorinc]

Cheers! Glad you love it!

[@shu_mar]

Thanks Anurag!

[@AryanSharma-hh3xp]

Great video on a topic that had to be addressed at some point of time. I definitely wanted to own a new Yamaha R3. 4 wheelers - a brand new Maruti Gypsy.

[@rupeshsane8175]

Initially i thought this Shumi guy was not that impactful when i started watching motorinc videos...but boy he has grown on me, this video just cemented his status as on my favourite in the motoring community...absolute respect for this guy now!!

[@motorinc]

Welcome to the community! And, thank you for the ❤️!

[@shreyjoshi4629]

Loved the topic. There are very few options for mid size advs. Again thank you for bringing this topic to talking table. We'd really love all the 7s from Yamaha, 790 & 890s of ktm and bunch of other products. I've lost hope for the muscle car segment. I'd love them on Indian road. Even countries like Indonesia are getting better products.

[@motorinc]

Mid-Size ADVs are brilliant, for sure!

[@shu_mar]

They're more than brilliant. We need the stepping stones for riders to graduate to larger machines with more skill and confidence. We are being forced to skip steps because the steps aren't on sale!

[@shreyjoshi4629]

@@shu_mar exactly, we're forced to go to big GS or tiger or Africa because we don't have 890 or tenere.

[@Randomthoughts944]

Yamaha FZs is my favourite 150cc commuter I ever brought. When I am saying this already brought, ride and sold in OLX almost 10 bikes and scooter since last 8 years. In 2016 I brought a FZs V2 and sold in 2018. That was the best 150cc bike I ever had so far. I know its not powerful as it looks but the driving dynamics, balance, looks everything is exceptional. Before that I had a pulsar 150 and even brought a Gixxer 155 BS6 in 2021 which is now sold. But nothing compared to FZs in terms of having fun when drive. I will never forget FZs even if I have a Royal Enfield now. When I owned it, it was just a good bike for me but with time and after riding so many 150cc later on I realised why FZs was special.

[@ChrisBOMtoATL]

Motorinc makes me watch all their videos again and make notes as if I missed something.

[@motorinc]

Aww! Thank you so much MotoChefChris! That's awesome!

[@RishalRaj]

My answer to the question posed at the end Car: Honda Civic, Tesla Model X, and the Endeavour if Ford comes back to India (slightly shorter list since I'm not much of a car guy yet) Bike: KTM 890 Adventure (or even the 390 Adventure sold outside with the Adjustable Suspension), Kawasaki KLX 250 (I have been imagining some version of this in the Xpulse), and a lot of Yamahas in the Sport and Naked genre that you already mentioned I do have a question however. I had a feeling that Shumi (and Kartikeya to some extent) was more controlled in this video, in terms of expressing true exasperation, compared to what you guys feel. If its not conscious and happening purely because of a habit thing with trying to be more neutral (how most journalism seems to work), then it can be more raw for the audience here at MotorINC, simply because I feel the people here (generalising from my personal perspective) might be more receptive to stronger opinions Keep up the fabulous work. Cheers!

[@Saidul0_0]

The Pain in Singhee's face through out the episode. was too much for me to handle. You guys are making stuff is what I dreamt in the past as an enthusisast to listen/consume. And it is finally Happening in our own India (I listenHigh side low side by Revzilla, Past Gas by Donut). I have listened all the episodes of powerdrift podcast (Torque tha Talk LOL). Cant wait for all the legendary stuff I could listen from two of the Biggest elephants (Both sitting together and talking stuff I could listen all day. Like 2AM Bro Talks we have) All the suppots and luck your way!!!

[@motorinc]

Thanks Saidul! We’ll trumpet your compliments to the 🐘s!

[@vardanrathi7777]

Ignis 4x4 (All Grip / AWD). In the world of hefty Scorpios and Thars, a compact Ignis 4x4 will make offroading so much fun !

[@motorinc]

Hell yeah!

[@nishantjdrums]

Loved the pod! I'd like to see the Swift Sport too, or maybe some other hot (I'll take lukewarm too) hatch in India. Sad that there aren't driver-focused hatchbacks and sedans in the sub-20L category, to replace the fun Fords.

[@motorinc]

So frikkin'' true!

[@SirKart]

How do we make a country of car lovers if we don’t get some true next-door neighbor variety heart throbs.

[@srikanthnowonever]

I miss the Fiats-Puntos and Abarths. Or a general availablity of affordable, fun to drive, engaging hatchbacks. Glad to see more hatchback lovers in a world that's lost confusing steroid induced small cars as SUVs.

[@ussvmehar7352]

N line.. a bit of driver focus

[@ussvmehar7352]

​@@srikanthnowoneverwe won't get them bcos tge so called enthusists never bought them.. period.

[@P3Aesthetics]

was lucky enough to get the Abarth Punto when it launched... its been 7 years, and Fiat is gone, but still, this car makes me smile while driving.

[@motorinc]

♥️

[@AdityaDevSultan]

We should send this video toh people who were waiving ✌🏼 at cb200x launch. Great podcast though, I also wanted to know them how come Chinese companies have it easier. This year has been an array of launched , cfmoto, qjmotors, benellis, motomorini.

[@motorinc]

Do they have it easier? We think they don't have a choice. So they're offering a wider range of options to try and make a dent in one of the hardest markets on Earth. So it appears that they can expand their range faster (and they must) but look at the sales numbers and you'll see that their challenge, as a Chinese brand especially, are very large too

[@roopvarun]

2W: VStorm (Vtwin) 4W: Jimny - Thor waiting lines did the survey already and I feel wait can be over sooner. If question is tweaked to be Revival/Launch, 2W: Impulse/Karizma (these were ahead of their times and could have been accepted better if relaunched now) - a Road legal factory fitted one of Impulse with Karizma engine makes more leads. 4W: Gypsy(King) - This one also might align with Jimny. May they launch Jimmy as NEXA offering while Gypsy(King) as Arena offering.

[@roopvarun]

*Thar

[@homosapien5156]

The Yamaha XSR 155 is one motorcycle I hoped I would be able to buy but we don't get that here in India.

[@motorinc]

💙

[@tonyjohnson3155]

I am watching this channel because, 01. I love motorcycles, this channel gives so much informations about bikes.. 02. Listening to you guys, gives me peace of mind. This calm and peaceful Vibes, you know.. 03. I am not good at English, but you guys talks such a way that, I can listen and understand each and every words very clearly.. Yes you guys are helping me with my English too.. I am Tony from Kerala, My dream bike is Gixxer SF 250. And I'm gonna buy it very soon.. ( because I finally managed to get a government job 😌) Thanks a lot ..

[@motorinc]

Wow! Thanks Tony! You made our day! Glad you find MotorInc interesting and useful! ❤️

[@aagni_]

The R6 is that one motorcycle I saved up for and that was the reason I started a separate savings account. It never came to India and Yamaha ended up pulling the plug but I would have invested my hard earned money on it. Not as crazy as the R1 but track focused and a pain to ride on the Indian roads. I did get the chance to ride it but only once that too in a parking lot in France but those 2 minutes were amazing.

[@motorinc]

An R6 account sounds so cool!

[@aagni_]

@@motorinc sad it never came to India and I really didn't want to import it🥲😅

[@anandhvenkataramani7228]

Dream Car - Mazda MX5 (NA) and (ND). Dream Bike - 1979 Honda CB 650.

[@motorinc]

♥️

[@anandhvenkataramani7228]

@@motorinc - One question that's been plaguing me - why in the world isn't Mazda in India? They have some fabulous sportsters, hatchbacks and SUVs! Most will killer looks too! And priced right, they can slot in a sweet spot, giving serious competition to VW; Skoda, and even Hyundai, and Toyota as well.

[@Rev350]

The one bike that I’d put my money on if that were available here in India and priced correctly is the Kawasaki’s Zx25R. I was hoping that shumi would mention it at some point in the podcast. Moreover, there are very less options in India for the price range from 5L-10L (personal opinion). Talking about Yamaha, I was really expecting them to get the WR155 to India after the xpulse’s launch.

[@manthenvashishth3769]

My neighbour has the accord 3.0 V6 vtec sad part is now it's just in shambles the neighbour went to Japan and never came back maybe he found peace(jdm) in Japan. Also fiat and abarth didn't quite make it up to the list man I remember my family was very close to getting the Abarth Punto but eventually we didn't as fiat and abarth were leaving so my father refused blatantly to buy a fiat. That car was such an amazing scorpion ready to sting.

[@motorinc]

Damn. An Accord V6 dying is just sad

[@anoopvadayampady]

Kawasaki Ninja ZX-25R is the one motorcycle I would buy if it comes to India. But after reading their press release on the New Zealand website, I knew it was never gonna make it to India. At least they should have given us Indians the choice they gave to New Zealand people.

[@motorinc]

❤️

[@Vijurckxx]

1. Husqvarna 401s 2. Yamaha R3 3. Kawasaki zx25R 4. Aprilia Rs125 and the gp250 5. Yamaha rx100 ( 😭) For cars, well most of them are currently out of my reach but they would be: 1. Dodge challenger 2. Kia stinger 3. A class hatchback 4. Jeep renegade 5. BMW M2 I would also like to point out that most manufacturers, two or four wheelers, they put an inferior engine-gearbox combination for the indian market as compared to their foreign counterparts. ( Baleno RS for example)

[@motorinc]

Thanks for sharing

[@debmalyapal6936]

The Yamaha R3 is the bike Ford Endeavour is the Car I would definitely buy. #deadserious

[@shu_mar]

Thank you Debmalya! I’m not sure about a new Endie showing up. But the R3…. 🤞🏽

[@motorinc]

Hey Yamaha! Are you listening? See how often the R3 shows up in this conversation!

[@ShivaShankar-iq5ue]

The 14r. That one sat on my feelings for a very long time. I was timelessly and tirelessly working towards a lot of reasons to pocket one into my garage. But No, I can’t have it! I would love to. But NO.

[@raghavchinda7719]

I would've definetly bought a Daytona 765 R even if I had to pay a premium for it! Best middleweight sports bike. Even a ZX-6R would work but Kawasaki just won't launch it in India. There are not really any good options in market right now for faired middleweight bikes.

[@motorinc]

Absolutely right! Triumph doesn't make a 675R at the moment, so that's out. But we can't see why Kawasaki India cannot have the ZX-6R here! But in the same breath, Kawasaki's service prices will make you sweat and that, to us, is the weak link in Team Green's story

[@shu_mar]

R7. R7. R7.R7. R7. R7.R7. R7. R7.R7. R7. R7.R7. R7. R7.R7. R7. R7.R7. R7. R7.R7. R7. R7.R7. R7. R7.R7. R7. R7.R7. R7. R7.R7. R7. R7.R7. R7. R7.R7. R7. R7.

[@Kalicharanmv]

All for Bleed blue! Have been actually already spent money for the Blue, MT - 07 is the one i am still waiting to spend my money on!

[@motorinc]

Shumi rode the MT-07 in New Zealand years ago! He loved it!

[@flamecaster07]

Shumi and Kartikeya dropping truth bombs! Oh and let's also not forget how amazingly well the Kawasaki Ninja 400 is priced.

[@motorinc]

Brilliant, brilliant pricing for sure!

[@shu_mar]

Yes, in another 10-20 years I'll have saved up enough to get me a Ninja 400 for sure

[@SirKart]

Awesome! Glad to hear your from you Indrojit! Please buzz us with any reccos that you have for us!

[@anmolkale16]

@@motorinc I think you can also CB 300R to that list, like that pricing is amazing for a localized bike. 😆

[@THEPRASHANTSARDAR]

32:36 Suzuki Bandit naked (You might have covered it in some other episode, But as you asked this question this came from my heart )

[@SOUTHLADBLR]

The Suzuki SV 650 was one i was looking out for since I was in 10th grade. Waiting and hoping that Suzuki brings it to India. Still keeping the hopes up.

[@motorinc]

Sadly the v-twin is on its way out… 🙁

[@mechcoder_93]

First of all really appreciate the gutsy attitude of both gentleman to talk about the real problem enthusiasts are genuinely facing. Coming to that one motorcycle I always wanted in my garage is either a Honda CRF 250/300 really (or) a Yamaha WR250R. I know for the fact there would be very less volumes out of it but our Indian roads deserve these dual sport motorcycles. They make a very strong case like a do it all 1 motorcycle.

[@shubhajitsaha856]

Was eagerly waiting for the next episode ❤️

[@motorinc]

And? What did you think of it?

[@shubhajitsaha856]

@@motorinc Spot on ... Enjoyed it thoroughly 🔥

[@shu_mar]

@@shubhajitsaha856 Thank you!

[@radhey1851]

didn't really expect to sit and listen through the whole thing but very happy to be proven wrong. And as for the question that Shumi asked, it may not be the right answer he was looking for but I had decided to put my money down on a tiago jtp as my first own car, only to realise that the product website was outdated and they had pulled the car from production a couple months ago. Sigh...

[@motorinc]

Damn. That JTP escaping your garage would've hurt!

[@radhey1851]

@@motorinc Haha, well it happened for the best I guess, I love my second hand diesel Ameo that I bought instead of the JTP :)

[@samirranjanmajhi]

I really really wanted to buy the Octavia RS 230 even without a test drive. But they only brought limited numbers to India. So I had to "settle" with a 1.8.

[@motorinc]

😊♥️

[@Jeru_on_the_road]

Thank you again . I really loved this straight down to earth , real talk no Instagram filtered relish conversations that socks the living day lights out of me . Anyway, I had an Rd 350 back in university and Yamaha R15 ,so I really am sadden with what is happening currently in India.

[@SirKart]

Glad to hear that Jeremy! What do you ride now though?

[@Jeru_on_the_road]

@@SirKart The good old fashioned Himalayan, that is underpowered lol , but I still love it .

[@SirKart]

@@Jeru_on_the_road it’s a sweet bike. Are you looking forward to the 450?

[@Jeru_on_the_road]

@@SirKart yes, well the Himalayan really needs that extra BHP, it's also the oldest engine as well as you experts already know. However, I'm honestly looking forward to the 650 Himalayan they have planned, owing to the kind of long distance riding I'm into, but God knows when thats rolling out. But again this is just the bulleter in me talking, me being the third generation in the family. But let's see , you guys will know first , so yeah, so looking forward to that too. 😊

[@abhishekm3592]

The Honda S660, hands down would have got one if it were sold in India. Would have been a fun little car to throw around corners without burning a hole in the pocket. It's just sad the manufacturers ditch the 2 doors versions for the Indian market, take the Jimmy for example.

[@SirKart]

They should do both right! I really wish they would.

[@abhishekm3592]

@@SirKart yes they should, the thar is a 2 door but still sells in good volume. Suzuki makes 2 door jimny in India and exports them but won't sell it to us. That is just sad.

[@ashwin812]

i20N, Polo GTI, Fiesta ST, RS3 avant, GR Yaris. Basically a 200+ bhp hot hatch capable of sub 6s 0-100 and cornering like a leach. Or, Mazda MX5 Miata, Fiat 124 Abarth, GR86, Supra.

[@motorinc]

♥️

[@fatboywithfatboy1001]

Loved this...

[@SirKart]

#inmyhead I’m a fat boy trapped in a fat boys body. I loved the handle. Hehe.

[@fatboywithfatboy1001]

@@SirKart it actually means a fat boy with harley davidson fatboy 😆

[@SirKart]

@@fatboywithfatboy1001 I know bro! But it unleashed that thought from my head - I have to start working out again!

[@fatboywithfatboy1001]

@@SirKart thanks😉

[@MrPsvkrishna]

Glad they did not bring Swift with the 1 star rating body and 130hp. No enthusiast will appreciate this. Yamaha R6 was my dream bike, but it was never sold in India directly. VW Golf (preferably R) would have been best car for Indian roads, and if that was on sale, I would have upgraded from Polo to Golf...

[@motorinc]

Sunil! You're a regular here... we love it! Actually, the Swift in Europe is far better equipped which translates to better ratings by a fair margin -- you should check it out. The 130bhp Swift Sport would actually be faster *and* safer! R6 on sale would be pure gold for sure... and it's never happened. The Polo GTI did come and go, but the Golf R would be an interesting option to have for sure

[@MrPsvkrishna]

@@motorinc I was a student where Shumi taught us to ride better. So I'm always there to support my guruji. He is one of the reasons to keep my 2013 d390 with me. I was bugging him in IM too after this channel started. Also messaged when i didn't see many videos of him in PD. I wish there was At least the proper last video to sign off from there before this channel and reset video.

[@Y_cos]

I would definitely go for Yamaha R6!❤

[@shu_mar]

I did! And I loved it. They are SO FRIKKIN' GOOD!

[@Y_cos]

@@shu_mar hopefully someday I’ll too if not on the road, least at race track 🤩 🤞

[@varunvp437]

Admin, Please collect the list of comments mentioning Yamaha R3 and drop a mail to YAMAHA. Let them understand what they are missing out on 😤

[@motorinc]

💯

[@kmshyamsundar]

I own a dominar. Its not as light or agile as a ktm 390. But it's not priced to do that anyway. For the price, i honestly enjoyed it. Me and my friend on a 600km trip me on dominar and he on a meteor. Both bikes are brand new too. And we both agree the dominar is a hell lot more comfortable on a long ride than the metor and both are priced almost the same. And for me personally, the engine sound, the seats, the general look of the bike all seems right at its price point.

[@anmolkale16]

The Dominar is unnecessarily been made heavier so to not cannibalize the sales of KTM's. There is a 20kg weight difference in those bikes like Bajaj can easily cut 10kgs off that Dominar, which would make it much better and still have enough differentiation from KTM.

[@motorinc]

The one thing we can guarantee at MotorInc is that not agreeing with is okay! It isn't important to us that Shumi says the Domi needs to be better and you think it's fine. It *is* important that you enjoyed your ride and we hope you continue to!

[@shu_mar]

I'm glad you're enjoying your riding! But no, until Bajaj makes serious improvements to the Dominar, I'm still not recommending them.

[@greetingsman]

Now this is what I wanted from the classic motorcycles episode in the other channel(nice but not taking names). The talk..discuss motorcycles man..just go on..Working in my cabin..listening to this..and waiting when I get out on the roads and ride(no I am not an irresponsible rider, quick and non patient but not irresponsible). Yess..go Shumi and Kartik..Honestly..I always loved you two..I see myself working like this everyday..

[@motorinc]

Thanks Mrinal! Stay tuned for more!

[@harishramakrishnan3818]

Also wish to see the Yamaha Tracer series in India... as Shumi rightly said when triumph can sustain and still give us products from the international catalogue...Yamaha & Honda can do as well... Funny to note you felt its nt even time worthy to discuss about Suzuki 2wheelers😁

[@motorinc]

Exactly! A Tracer would be supercool!

[@AnkurRajpali]

Such unfiltered honesty by both of you guys! Loved it!

[@motorinc]

Thank you Ankur!

[@SirKart]

Broski ❤

[@219arun]

Haha from pitch black to way too bright. Also so insightful every time, love this podcast to make my workdays less boring.

[@motorinc]

We're prepping you for our line of sunglasses....

[@shu_mar]

Bright? We can turn it up further? Want? Say say? 😄

[@219arun]

@@motorinc Haha I would buy them gladly

[@219arun]

@@shu_mar I think this is as much as my eyes could handle. I work in a cave XD

[@abhijitkundu1879]

Thank you Sumi for honestly appreciating Royal Enfield and its perception to perceive 🌹🌹

[@prorider4992]

Yamaha mt07 for sure

[@qmt6965]

CB 150R would have been my go to 1st bike, since it most inevitably is a Honda, but since that dream is reserved for the Europeans and Malaysian market, I had to go with the Hunter 350 Metro Dapper. Did some cosmetic changes to give it a scrambler treatment (thrown off the rear fender and saree guard, added a somewhat decent tyre hugger and an X shaped headlight grill) and enjoying every moment of the ride Amen. I am about to be 23 when I am typing this. And guys, these podcasts bring a sweet smile on my face. :) Thanks mate!

[@motorinc]

Damn! We wish YT would let you send a photo here!

[@qmt6965]

@@motorinc So true!!! :')

[@write2lloyd]

+1 . Just upload somewhere and send us a link.

[@rxost1273]

The Yamaha R3

[@motorinc]

❤

[@ronniejindal3055]

Now that it is available, even though neutered in some ways, did you buy it?

[@rxost1273]

@@ronniejindal3055 Yamaha has still made sure that they won't let everyone buy their dream bike. The R15 which I own itself is a huge stretch for me 🥲.

[@ArjunKumar-qn3ex]

really liking this channel , so glad you guys went out on your own

[@motorinc]

Welcome aboard!

[@peterczeck]

So, I would have bought 1. Honda Rebel 300 (priced not like honda big wing) 2. Ford competitor to Creta (loved and had the ecosport) 3. New Gen Renault Duster (Have the first gen one, still driving it, loving it)

[@motorinc]

Good choices! ❤️

[@VijayThakur007]

#Suggestion - whenever you're taking about any car or bike, please show image of the product as well for the reference purpose. So that we can get the idea as well. @motorinc #motorinc

[@wakinditube269]

Exactly!!

[@LonelyRacoon]

I'd beg to differ. The whole vibe of the podcast is just so pure (for the lack of better word in my vocab). I mean its just 2 guys talking about vehicles with a plain background and just the voices (not even music). Its a very unique thing to do. Especially when you have such well phrased person like Shumi and such a enthusiastic guy like Kartik (who are just so well composed throughout), it actually distracts when you have pop-up of vehicles in between. I actually like the podcast because of its very basic (which is a compliment here) and pure approach.

[@shu_mar]

I beg to differ as well. I don't want to 1/ distract you from the conversation at all. 2/ I don't want to have pop-up images of vehicles clogging the screen either. If a certain vehicle piqued your interest, I'd much rather you took the time to find out about it and learnt something than to sit back and absorb information as a passive viewer.

[@motorinc]

@Rishav Dev: Thank you. It's just two guys talking. And we've been in conversations where people keep pulling their phones out to show each other photos/videos and they're worse for the interruptions for sure.

[@LonelyRacoon]

@@motorinc you're welcome. It's so soothing to see you guys just talking ❤️

[@Mainak_B]

The Yamaha R3... hands down... What a beautiful motorcycle...

[@jaytrivedi2539]

You guys are a gem of automotive journalism

[@motorinc]

Thank you Jay! ❤️

[@madihalli]

I don't have a particular bike I wanted to buy, because i have already bought the one i wanted to ride and its slightly disappointing. What i would have loved having? Choice. To choose from an array of good capable bikes. Not but the only one there is in a segment.

[@motorinc]

Which bike we are talking about?

[@SirKart]

Spill the beans!

[@shu_mar]

Which one? Which one?

[@madihalli]

@@shu_mar KTM 390 ADV. Although, overall it's a good bike, there will always bevthat one small nagging problem. For the SVC it's a normal thing. You tell them the bike isn't starting it's a common problem. The bike isn't tracking straight, it's a common problem. Nothing is taken seriously untill you complain on the app and even after that they're in a hurry to tell you some BS story and send the bike saying it's been fixed and the moment you sign on their form, it's back to the same cycle. I'm tired of making the SVC runs. Some garages are good but even for them it takes a keen person to actually think that I might have a genuine problem and takes 2 or 3 visits min to fix it. Also the money involved. It goes a little out of budget when you're visiting the garage 2 or 3 times for the same problem and each time you change a different thing and still the problem doesn't get solved.

[@riddhimukherjee2722]

One Bike that I miss everyday and surely I will pick that one if that comes alive again is the 1st generation of Hero KarizmaR..

[@motorinc]

♥️

[@pritamsarkar5043]

Awesome guys… this is the kind of conversation we should be having… it’s like someone is speaking my heart out for me… I been dreaming of having this conversation with all the manufacturers in India… I’m sorry that I’m going on blabbering about myself but trust me I feel so connected to your thoughts, I like my very own… I ❤ U Shumi… so so much brother U’hv inspired me my whole life and Kartik what can I say man ❤ u too and the passion and zeal with which you communicate about motorcycles. Kudos to you two for making this show/channel 👍🏼

[@motorinc]

Thanks Pritam! Welcome to the MotorInc family!

[@lazymeet]

Yamaha Tnere700 for sure. but since now I have moved to Canada, I ll be getting a chance to fulfill my dream

[@motorinc]

Nice nice! Tell us how it feels to ride once you get it!