Why This Battle NOT Close…

[@SirPlayzAlot]

DEATH BATTLE be like: *I'm gonna pretend I didn't see that*

[@__Soya__]

This guy felt like death battle with his Sonic bias fr

[@TheUndyingDemon.]

@@__Soya__cry

[@__Soya__]

@@TheUndyingDemon. Why? It’s only a video after all.

[@TheUndyingDemon.]

@@__Soya__ fair point, carry on

[@TheUndyingDemon.]

@@__Soya__ have a good day and ignore my past comment, I was in a bad mood

[@vspxeclipse]

"ACTUALLY ITS (E - KID - NA) 🤓

[@Tyrecordslol]

Saying it wrongs boosts engagement 😎

[@Halostown]

@@Tyrecordslolthis miner knows cheat codes 😱

[@Plagiarism-at-its-finest]

@@Tyrecordslolhow could you

[@ath477]

​@@Tyrecordslolyo could you make a minecraft version of telephones by vacations

[@colecole640]

​@@Tyrecordslolnigga if you really think that knuckles is as fast as sonic....... then I honestly don't know what to say frfr😑😑😑😑

[@AlsoSomeoneAgainBah]

Bro is Slaying every single Sonic Death battle

[@greenspeedser]

Bc he can't cope

[@AlsoSomeoneAgainBah]

@@greenspeedser 🧱

[@Retro_Edits763]

@@AlsoSomeoneAgainBah huh

[@herebybuu]

Coco nut cream blood

[@vgamer4993]

Not his fault that Death Battle DRAMATICALLY downplayed Sonic characters for years.

[@moaitv1]

Yeah but don't forget the coconut gun, if fired in spurts it's gonna hurt

[@Sunshine.LeBron23]

He's bigger, Faster, and stronger too. He's the first member of the D.K. crew!

[@thunderx456]

So put your hands together, if you wanna clap. And see Knuckles the Echidna get fucking clapped! (DK! DONKEY KONG! 🗣🔥🔥🔥) Edit: Btw I think Knuckles wins, I just wanted to join in on this

[@Sunshine.LeBron23]

@@thunderx456 Depends which knuckles

[@InfernoSage]

​​@@Sunshine.LeBron23 u completely ignored the video

[@InfernoSage]

Knuckles would punch the coconut and it would explode into nothingness

[@OneSadApe]

As much as I love Dk Knuckles completely deatroys purely because unlike Donkey Kong he doesn't chuckle he rather flex his muscles

[@cooljrgaming9729]

While you make a good point, DK has a coconut gun, which fires in spurts. If he shoots Knuckles, it's gonna hurt.

[@OneSadApe]

​@@cooljrgaming9729Your right I also forgot that he's bigger faster and stronger to since he's the first member of the DK crew

[@deaconaligood]

@@cooljrgaming9729Then again, if Knuckles can break the front part of a cliff down with a single punch, he also can tank that, since otherwise he'd just break his hand, which he was fine

[@cooljrgaming9729]

@@deaconaligood With all due respect, DK punched the moon down onto the earth and was also fine after.

[@Nah-Bruh-I-asked]

⁠@@cooljrgaming9729 Yeah, but like Tyre says, one Chaos Emerald can literally move large parts of the Earth in a matter of seconds, which as he said, is calculated to be Large Planetary or Star Level. And like Tyre also said, with just one Chaos Emerald, Knuckles can destroy a whole large planet or even a star. As much as I love DK, he doesn’t even come close to Knuckles.

[@billgaytes9114]

Knuckles is pretty underrated

[@Dwavie]

FrFr

[@Glitchy39991]

fr

[@CarterSusboi]

Heyyy

[@A-M-computer]

Approved

[@GiovanniKody100]

Overrated*

[@Deluxe-rs9iu]

my boy knuckles finally gets the respect he needs

[@lighttium]

lol

[@JesusFreak-ex7on]

YES KNUCKLES🎉

[@Nah-Bruh-I-asked]

Knuckles is definitely underrated. Bro can glide and is powerful as shit. Not to mention, dude literally knocked the Chaos Emeralds out of Sonic while he was literally Super Sonic, and Knuckles was just himself. He deserves more than what he gets.

[@Deluxe-rs9iu]

@@Nah-Bruh-I-asked the fact he did it as classic makes him look EVEN stronger

[@Nah-Bruh-I-asked]

@@Deluxe-rs9iu EXACTLY! The classics are literally smaller than the moderns, the fact he was able to do that while he was classic makes him look so much stronger. People need to give Knuckles more recognition. He is probably one of, if not, the strongest character in the Sonic Franchise. He could easily solo DK. Death Battle making DK win is dumb, to be honest. Knuckles destroys DK and it’s not even a contest.

[@kixgdayday854]

Knuckles is really the strongest character in the sonic universe, the creators just black balled him because shadow got all the kids eyes so now they only d-ride the hedgehogs, he even tames the powers of the chaos emeralds and master emerald without even transforming, y'all better y'all homework on knuckles, he's really that dude.

[@banjo9158]

Physically yes, not the most powerful overall though.

[@kastenedwards1217]

@@banjo9158welll duh

[@niyol8982]

Yeah, in the classic games he was by far the strongest, pushing sonic to hyper in order to beat him in his base cant be understated

[@Vindication1134]

@@niyol8982 Hyper Sonic isn't canon. The player can also defeat Knuckles in base just as easily. Canonically Sonic defeated Knuckles without any emeralds. Classic Knuckles isn't stronger than he is now, everyone from the classic era is just weak.

[@Vindication1134]

No, classic characters are just weak, including super sonic. As the series progressed, more powerful characters were introduced. Since Knuckles by this point is no longer an enemy of Sonic's, he has been matched and surpassed

[@ThatOneEpicMemeLord]

I’m pretty sure a moon slamming into earth would make DK stronger than the gravitational force of the earth.

[@RaijinRain]

Makes sense. But the moon is also literally the size of his island And the punch hurt DK hand right after so he can't really take the same AP he can dish out. (Edit: Well dunno if it makes sense because it's not like he's killing himself doing it)

[@banjo9158]

@@RaijinRain It didn't seen to hurt him much though, his hand got red, but than it quickly went back to normal.

[@RaijinRain]

@@banjo9158 Probably felt like when you punch a steel beam abit then be like "Ah damn"

[@banjo9158]

@@RaijinRain Yeah, like that.

[@adamkean2243]

I Agree, But That Was Still Only One Chaos Emerald. Super Knuckles Uses 7.

[@axiom6000]

Knuckles slams, he’s much stronger, faster and durable. With the Chaos emeralds he has even more hax.

[@GingaNinja112]

Donkey Kong can move at the speed of sound and destroyed the moon has once punched so fast his fists also ignited and in the beta Donkey Kong 64 he had a gun but Knuckles has the canon super knuckles where he would absolutely destroy DK but if it came to Tails Vs Luigi, Luigi would solo

[@Sebo994]

@@GingaNinja112i had a aneurysm reading that.

[@grease08]

@@Sebo994 Donkey Kong can move at the speed of sound and destroyed the moon has once punched so fast his fists also ignited and in the beta Donkey Kong 64 he had a gun but Knuckles has the canon super knuckles where he would absolutely destroy DK but if it came to Tails Vs Luigi, Luigi would sol

[@Glitchy39991]

@@grease08 Bro💀

[@ThatOneEpicMemeLord]

@@GingaNinja112Hey fellow Meme Lord!

[@Darragh.Rewind]

Awesome video Tyrecords can’t wait for the Sonic vs Kirby video

[@Demestial]

sonic is dusting kirby

[@cooljrgaming9729]

Kirby is going to literally and metaphorically devour Sonic

[@Kerry-yl1sc]

He alr made a sonic vs Kirby video lol only og fans know that

[@Darragh.Rewind]

I know I saw the shorts one

[@Skeletal-Dude]

Kirby solos a lot of universes

[@ahmadkazan5473]

Combat wise knuckles is a better dk who has acess to the choas emeralds,meaning he can warp time and space pretty much unconditionally,that alone would win him the fight.

[@necoarcgamer69]

boy what

[@Real_Aron]

Super Knuckles isn't canon to sonic lore. Also WARP TIME AND SPACE... WHEN THIS HAPPEN... Even, Sonic can't do this.

[@cyanthehedgehog777]

@@Real_Aron chaos emeralds

[@necoarcgamer69]

@@Real_Aron didn't he go super in sonic 2? also it is canon sega said everything is canon

[@jaredwong-bynoe2750]

@@Real_Arona quote from frontiers “Things would have gone faster soon if i went super knuckles”

[@footballismylife9107]

This was awesome keep it up Tyler

[@cyanthehedgehog777]

0:46 "Woah! This guy's faster than Sonic!"

[@Chips0269]

I got the reference, but not faster than sonic ✌️

[@MobianBF]

Now this is all a different story if Knuckles took DK's banana stash.

[@CheosgamerX-ik1kq]

Knuckles actually pushed the moon as well in base

[@nokingo10098]

​@HyperTheHedgehog1991Yes while Sonic was going full speed

[@Coolstrongwarriorbro27]

Nah bro don’t listen to death battle, they don’t like sonic characters that much

[@Christian-fn4cw]

​@@Coolstrongwarriorbro27didn't they make shadow lose to mewtwo😂😂😂

[@Coolstrongwarriorbro27]

@@Christian-fn4cw probably 😔

[@Axxidous]

Knuckles. Given that DK is 3 times cartoonier, you can also expect each feat to be only a third the actual impact on the same scale. But yeah, Super Knuckles. It’s over.

[@highlandave8507]

Where's Strong Kong?

[@MarkiplierMeatMuncher8]

That makes no sense but go off ig

[@Axxidous]

@@MarkiplierMeatMuncher8 Think Underdog vs Superman

[@joshk-vi2pz]

CURIOUS GORGE SOLOS

[@ScorpionistheGOAT-om9dm]

Cap it’s a damn monkey

[@AmyRoseSpiritsOfHellFanGaming]

Uhm…actually, this video is NOT about Curious George.💀

[@comical5586]

@@AmyRoseSpiritsOfHellFanGaming correct reply is "erm…acktually, this video is NOT about Curious George.🤓"

[@AnimationDude_]

DK: I punch the moon Knuckles: Time to shatter the Master Frickin Emerald with one punch!

[@__Soya__]

Well it's only a diamond so what do you expect.

[@AnimationDude_]

@@__Soya__ Said emerald is FAR stronger than a chaos emerald. A chaos emerald has infinite power which scales to low universal without context

[@banjo9158]

@@AnimationDude_ That doesn't mean it's very durable, or anything.

[@AnimationDude_]

@@banjo9158 Durability >= AP The Master Emerald grants Multiversal AP

[@banjo9158]

@@AnimationDude_ No, that's not how it works, you can't say something is relative like that unless it's showed to be.

[@Da_Boeh7312]

Toon force is a power that Mario Characters have shown to have on a consistent basis and because Mario and Sonic Characters are originally video game characters, it only feels fair to utilize their video game feats. People heavily sleep on the powers and abilities of Mario characters both with and without their powerups. Look at it this way: if Nintendo felt like it was a priority to establish just how strong Mario characters are, then the series would have more consistent scaling, but the thing is, Mario is usually whatever the story/game requires of him, which is why the powerscaling is all over the place, but even with the little they do show, it's pretty clear that Mario or any character from his series isn't outright getting stomped by any Sonic character any day. They would have to work, and I mean WORK for that junk and even then, it's ridiculous how much Mario characters can handle. I'll admit I'm slightly more biased towards Mario, but it's also just annoying to hear how blatantly disrespectful and frankly insufferable SOME Sonic fans are in these types of debates.

[@DBattleedits]

U just said my feelings out loud 💀, couldn’t have said it better myself

[@RaccoonThunderMario_Official]

Yeah I mean remember when Ty said that 3D World Mario (Which I still don't agree with his every Mario is not the same Mario argument) > Paper Mario and the only reason why he thinks that is because Mario has more power-ups in 3D World. That has to be one of the most stupidest things I've ever heard because let me ask if we pretend the power-ups don't exist what kind of accomplishments did 3D World Mario show that make him superior to Paper Mario? What feats does he have that would put Paper Mario to shame? I honestly can't come up with anything. It's as if he's trying to say that Paper Mario's accomplishments are irrelevant just because 3D World Mario has more power-ups. I mean heck he even got what power-ups 3D World Mario had in his arsenal wrong. He said that 3D World Mario could use the Gold Flower which doesn't come from 3D World but instead from NSMB2 (and if you're going to say he meant to include the 2D titles as well he specified that Mario is the same in ONLY 3D Land and 3D World he didn't mention anything about him being the same Mario in the 2D games as well). He also says White Tanooki Mario (and in this case normal Tanooki Mario as well) can't fly but we see in the credits of 3D Land that he CAN fly with the suit. I honestly believe all he does is look at the Mario characters with a broad perspective and don't take into consideration just how strong they are without power-ups. Not to mention his "Not every Mario is the same Mario" statement can easily be debunked by one cutscene in Odyssey alone. (It's when Mario captures Bowser).

[@banjo9158]

@@RaccoonThunderMario_Official I don't like to point fingers like that, but it does feel like there is bias going on here when it comes to analyzing the Mario characters.

[@__Soya__]

​@@banjo9158Hes just a bit(extremely) biased

[@Da_Boeh7312]

@@__Soya__ It seriously feels that way. I understand that factors like nostalgia and things like that are factors when making videos like this, so the Sonic characters always have that advantage

[@Beastmd]

Knuckles dodges meteors in meteor herd too

[@bumpkinfishywishy-lc8wq]

Next video: Tails vs Luigi

[@nightmarexgaming120]

Unless super tails, Luigi destroys

[@kwproductions6737]

​@@nightmarexgaming120watch this man with somehow misconstrue what every Sonic developer says and somehow make it so tails wins this man has a biased and it's obvious

[@ScorpionistheGOAT-om9dm]

@@kwproductions6737 yes, he is biased but sonic tails and knuckles will beat Mario Luigi and dk but he definitely lowballs the Mario characters

[@Punkyyyyy]

@@kwproductions6737there’s something called evidence

[@sonic34577]

Knuckels the enchipalidana negs kong so hard he erased him from existence.

[@Mcervera]

Don’t forget the fact that in the start of sonic 3, knuckles can knock out sonic in super form *with a single punch* (from what I’m aware of)

[@CloggedUrethra445]

thats because he caught him off guard, if sonic knew it was coming he would've been fine

[@errorstudioz]

​@@CloggedUrethra445 Still impressive

[@kastenedwards1217]

@@CloggedUrethra445what does catching him off guard have to do with any thing

[@AndreBabani]

Ok naw: 0:43: Dk literally does this in jungle beat in his one on one fights. He can also clap or yell loud enough to create powerful shockwaves that can reflect projectiles. 0:57: it is true that chaos emeralds are very powerful and can do this, but their powers are mysterious and alter to fit the situation. Just because they were used like this in unleashed, does not mean that they can grant knuckles enough power to destroy stars just by holding it. They've never done that before. 1:59: I hate this argument. Just because he can "keep up with sonic", doesn't mean he is anywhere near as fast. Thats never been implied except mayyyyyybe in the classic games. And even then, its only like that for gameplay reasons. Thats like saying Mario is faster than light because he can outpace Rosalina in 3d world. We can assume that knuckles' speed is superhuman, and that his reaction speed is insane since he fought sonic, but in terms of movement? We've yet to see evidence of how fast he can truly go in his games. The only thing I don't have a counter for is super knuckles. Dk doesn't have an answer for invincibility or universal/multiversal power. But saying Knuckles would beat dk in base? Wild man. Plain wrong.

[@CaptainF123]

I mean knuckles can boost in Frontiers.

[@AndreBabani]

@@CaptainF123 yes, but there's no way to measure how fast he's actually going. And he's noticeably slower than sonic in that game (I played it, still stuck on the stupid master king). Again, we can assume he has superhuman speed, but saying he's any faster than mach 1 is pushing it i'd say.

[@3DoublePoint]

Is it be fair enough that knuckles beat DK in base form?

[@AndreBabani]

@@3DoublePoint could you rephrase that? I'm not sure what you're saying.

[@3DoublePoint]

@@AndreBabani Donkey Kong has more cartoon Iogic on his side. People said having cartoon physics doesn't mean anything???

[@MatthewSutisna]

i like turtles

[@MickeyDaMoose14]

i like trains

[@MatthewSutisna]

@@MickeyDaMoose14i like cars

[@TMP876]

@@MickeyDaMoose14I like the 2010’s

[@SansINess53]

A lot of people forget knuckles is smart but it just that the series overtime makes him a side character. Like bro in sonic adventure he had a reason to attack sonic and in adventure 2 there was still a reason but in sonic heroes and beyond they dumbed him down to a side character.

[@ChaosX-y2m]

Berleezy gonna see this

[@Kiryukingz15]

Ok I get why sonic would beat Mario and knuckles would beat donkey Kong even as a Mario fan I can admit that but I swear to god if he says Amy beats peach he is bias. And if he says sonic beats Kirby that is a whole other story but love this guys videos! Keep up the good work man

[@galedrpepper]

Kirby’s 20cms big just saying

[@Kiryukingz15]

Ok but what if they are the same hight then the tides would turn

[@MaskedKilla90]

Another W vid from the goat

[@A.R.T.4]

Wasn’t one of the first texts about Knuckles a mention that he was as strong as Sonic is fast? If that stays true then as Sonic gets faster, Knuckles gets stronger.

[@CaptainF123]

Damn that's actually pretty cool I feel it's always the hedgehogs who get all the insane feats in the franchise eg:Sonic Shadow Silver. They all do crazy ass shit but the best stuff anybody else has done would be Tails taking down Chaos 4.

[@banjo9158]

Yes, but it doesn't work exactly like that.

[@kcreator8844]

It's not meant to be tooken literal, especially how it is written . With the words " its said that" instead of "knuckles is." So it isn't really true. If it was, knuckles would destroy everything and anything.

[@Hazmurger]

I’m surprised you didn’t mention the time knuckles punched the chaos emeralds out of super Sonic on Sonic 3

[@bladethehedgecat]

That was because Knux actually ambushed Sonic

[@banjo9158]

That's Classic Super Sonic, classic super forms aren't that strong compared to even the characters without transformation in the Adventure Era. normal Adventure era Sonic is stronger than Classic era Super Sonic. so it's not that impressive.

[@AlanWildonger]

And if u use the 4126 cheat code 2 times he knocks the super emeralds out of hyper sonic

[@Youmustdierghtnow]

​@@AlanWildongertried it and it didnt work

[@AlanWildonger]

@@Youmustdierghtnowu have to be sonic

[@Gogeta-pl3bj]

Wait, Sonic can time travel, so does that mean silver is his son?

[@BeefBoss2010]

Don't bring fanfiction into this.

[@Gogeta-pl3bj]

@@BeefBoss2010 bro I’m joking chill

[@BeefBoss2010]

@@Gogeta-pl3bj WE REALLY DON'T WANNA GET IN THAT WORLD

[@nerdydebaterjj]

​@@BeefBoss2010in His World?

[@segtendo381]

HIS WORLD​@@nerdydebaterjj

[@Fang1st]

Yeah, I stopped watching death battle forever ago. It was fun for a while, but once you figure out that they fudge results for entertainment or personal preferences then there's no point. They nerfed Knuckles into the ground with the 'hybridization' crap they pull where they combined all the forms of knuckles, taking the worst parts from Boom and leaving out feats like in Sonic X. The literal moment I saw the announcement for Yang vs Tifa I knew every single fight was basically rigged. It doesn't matter if Yang actually does beat Tifa or not, they just needed Yang to win that fight for the team up they did with Rooster Teeth, lol.

[@FictionalFanatic]

Tifa should of won, she helped beat Sephiroth in the original FF7. Which they stated beats Vergil somehow, even though that's debatable at best. So by there logic Yang>Tifa>Sephiroth>Vergil which makes 0 sense. Vergil would stomp all of RWBY.

[@Fang1st]

@TheRealityWatcher I think so too, but it didn't matter to DB, as long as Yang won.

[@Jacksontrooper777]

Some matchups are right some match up so wrong now they're in a terrible state

[@Shonin23]

Fr Tails is nowhere near as close to Sonic in power as Luigi is to Mario

[@comicfan1324]

Apparently, death battle has never heard of Hyper Knuckles

[@Cosmic-f6n]

It was stated that Knuckles strength is relative to sonic speed it immeasurable

[@Iron_Dog07]

Are we going to ignore the fact that knuckles punched sonic out of his super form?

[@elohimbaptiste134]

Yeah that’s puts him Above DK

[@RaccoonThunderMario_Official]

I swear I could have sworn I heard a lot of people say that he was able to do that only because he used the Master Emerald's energy and/or because Sonic was still new to the Super form at the time.

[@banjo9158]

That's Classic Super Sonic, he is not that powerful.

[@Iron_Dog07]

@@banjo9158 classic and modern are the same sonic. just are different ages

[@Iron_Dog07]

@@RaccoonThunderMario_Official maybe idk tho

[@excalibur7733]

This is actually pretty good scaling

[@caramelflann]

Also remember that he punched sonic out of his super form while in base

[@izaiahblue9163]

Knuckles can go super and hyper form now as of sonic origins.😂😂😂😂

[@singriioticstudios]

Check ya sources my friend

[@Soniciscool91]

Knuckles goes hyper in sonic 3 and knuckles

[@izaiahblue9163]

I did l, check the​ game sonic origins dude.😂😂@@singriioticstudios

[@Vindication1134]

Origins isn’t canon

[@izaiahblue9163]

I did 😂​@@singriioticstudios

[@Bannanakaito]

Nah dk is WAY too strong for knuckles to beat. He pulled boats casually while he stranded on them, meaning his strength exceed the laws of physics.

[@DeviousCockroach]

All the feats and you chose pulling boats? Dawg

[@Bannanakaito]

@@DeviousCockroach dude I know he punched the moon out of orbit, but this one is crazier cause it's literally impossible by the laws of physic

[@DeviousCockroach]

@@Bannanakaito that does not make him strong? Sonic characters break the laws of physics and time on a daily basis

[@Bannanakaito]

@@DeviousCockroach how doesn't it dude?

[@DeviousCockroach]

@@Bannanakaito Basically, he is just pulling the weight of a boat plus himself. Adding in that little sprinkle of "breaking laws of physics" barely does anything, as his opponent does that on a regular basis.

[@highlandave8507]

So nevermind Strong Kong mode, how the Crystal Coconuts work, everything thing that happened in Donkey Kong: Jungle Beat, and his multiple gadgets.

[@__Soya__]

This guy is so Sonic bias it hurts😭

[@ltlucster0207]

@@__Soya__Fr

[@Lord_Joez]

Don't forget supercharged donkey Kong, either.

[@highlandave8507]

@Jaydenthemannn Pot callin the kettle black. Have you actually seen Sonic glazers? Y'all make finding hay in a needle stack an easier chore and no one out here glazing Mario. No one claiming Mario beats Goku like the Sonic fanbase try to gaslight you to believing

[@highlandave8507]

@Jaydenthemannn Keep making yourself believe that nonsense,as if I'm not a big Sonic fan myself since '99. I watch all the shows and movies and played the games and Knuckles does not beat Donkey Kong, especially when Ty deliberately ignored 50% of DK specific lore himself. Again, the gaslighting is not going to work here. Never said Sonic doesn't beat Mario, because he does, but just barely, and both Xeno Goku, Capsule CorpGoku, and Composite Goku are a whole other beast.

[@MobianBF]

Invalid DK doesn't have a super form.

[@KingBeckwood]

He has super kong and strong kong

[@3DoublePoint]

​@@KingBeckwoodBut knuckles can't break him though.

[@herebybuu]

Just give him ssj4

[@Gnome-nf7ev]

If only there was a video game that had video game character fighting each other.. oh wait smash bros. Wtf Nintendo you missed so hard on this one. We could’ve found out in smash bros who would have won.

[@Punkyyyyy]

@Jaydenthemannnthey had too for game balance

[@PikachuGamerSMT]

Knuckles scales way higher Low 1-C whilst DK is way lower High 4-C which is like WAY LOWER THAN KNUCKLES (Source VSBattles Wiki) also this is base form Knuckles

[@mydoodes4883]

You forgot to mention donkey Kongs strong kong form which also makes him invincible, and you left out that donkey Kong can punch so fast that his fists ignite making him 5x the speed of sound as well… Also super and hyper knuckles are not canon. According to the creator of the sonic 3 the dialogue of knuckles mentioning super knuckles in frontiers was just a joke, and the super form he has in sonic heroes is just sonic boosting tails and knuckles with his own chaos energy.

[@Glitchy39991]

Please shut up, super knuckles is canon.

[@mydoodes4883]

@@Glitchy39991 well the creator said the form wasn’t, and super knuckles has yet to appear in any sonic games aside from classic sonic remakes.

[@Glitchy39991]

@@mydoodes4883 sonic 3 and knuckles is technically canon, because it was suppose to all be one game (all in sonic 3) but it had to be separated because genesis limits

[@thewentypenalty9727]

Bro what? Super Knuckles is Canon if it wasnt then he wouldn't have brought it up even if it was just a joke. Strong Kong lasts less longer than any super form as in the Canon it can last for days. And yeah it was sonics own chaos energy. If it wasn't and sonic was giving both tails and knuckles their super forms then it would've shown them being in their super forms. Like how sonic did with shadow and silver in sonic 06.

[@3DoublePoint]

​@@mydoodes4883Super knuckles is cannons, I think. he mentions something about it in Frontiers. But they never showed up his Form in any appears to sonic games, So.​

[@R2be]

U forgot to mention that knuckles punched super sonic out of his super state

[@RaccoonThunderMario_Official]

I'm pretty sure it's because Knuckles has a direct connection with the Emeralds which is why he's the only one that could do that. Not to mention he caught Sonic off guard when that happened.

[@R2be]

@@RaccoonThunderMario_Official possible

[@Minilla_TM]

Nah CURIOUS GEORGE FINNA SOLO EVEN IF DONKEY KONG AND KNUCKLES COMBINED BRO

[@FamousAaron99]

Not to mention, the moon DK punched wasn't the size of an actual moon, as you can see it's full size as it lands on an island. The feat is impressive, but it takes time to wind up before striking.

[@FamousAaron99]

@Raro-b2b source?

[@DJVector2763]

Wait people actually thought that Donkey Kong would beat Knuckles the Enchilada?!?!

[@spincycle6724]

I swear T does a better job than death battle

[@GokeezyTheSaiyan]

No he doesn’t. Tyre needs to blatantly ignore the characters feats and lore in order to make the sonic characters win, and he also needs to downplay their abilities as well. And I noticed how he didn’t have enough courage to show us all of DK’s abilities and strength feats because he knew he was stronger. Unlike him, DB actually researched and did a good job, tyre wanked knuckles.

[@spincycle6724]

@@GokeezyTheSaiyan nah Knuckles can react to speedsters and has amped forms which can power him up unlimited times but I respect your opion plus sonic and mario actually was more fair

[@spincycle6724]

and listened to act themual feats instead of ignoring

[@spincycle6724]

@@GokeezyTheSaiyan death battle sometimes just don't research like with spider-man 2099 vs Batman Beyond

[@TamimAshraf-ic2jg]

Without watching the video is knuckles😊

[@MobianBF]

Top 10 best fights:

[@Tfprime84]

Most if not all sonic characters would probably solo the entire Mario universe tbch. Chaos Emeralds are one of the most op hax in fiction.

[@damienc.3970]

Super emeralds

[@Demestial]

@@damienc.3970 NAHHHHHH MARIO VERSE IS DONE

[@AiGeneratedWaluigi]

*tails seeing Mario and Luigi infinitely use magic door to one hit ko hyper sonic*:

[@Demestial]

@@AiGeneratedWaluigi nah

[@thewentypenalty9727]

​​@@AiGeneratedWaluigi 1 super emerald is enough to Make super sonic. All 7 makes 7 super sonics Into 1 sonic. Basically sonic in his hyper form is 7 times stronger than super sonic do you think magic door can even damage super sonic? Let alone TOUCH him????

[@jocoolshow]

Knuckles doesn’t need the Emeralds for that beyond planet to Star level scaling, as of Adventure 1, Sonic, Tails and Knuckles scale relative to Chaos 4 who ofc has 4 chaos emeralds. And based on how Sonic as a series works, the characters get stronger over time

[@RaccoonThunderMario_Official]

If that was the case then why did they need the Gaia Temples and the Chao Emeralds if they could move the planets pieces themselves?

[@greenspeedser]

Yall scaling is wanking ppl

[@RaccoonThunderMario_Official]

@@blackhole527 I was thinking of the context of Knuckles being able to just punch the planet pieces back into place. I already know about what the Chaos Emeralds can do.

[@LeonButcher-ib9rf]

​@@RaccoonThunderMario_Official I think he means in AP in not DC (or something similar to an area healing effect)

[@xavierlove9603]

Stop the cap sonic d rider

[@AaronRobinson-ut3fk]

for a Sonic d rider he actually tries to research on both sides

[@FictionalFanatic]

Bros a Nintendo fan who only owns one platform. Fake gamer confirmed.

[@st2k27]

@@FictionalFanaticor is the type of person to say Zeno goku is cannon

[@Punkyyyyy]

Not surprising coming from a bfdi pfp

[@st2k27]

@@Punkyyyyy I know right

[@Javiere778]

Better hope a DK fan doesn't come out of nowhere

[@Real_Aron]

I like the Monkey

[@khalidsaeedali8756]

​@@Real_Aronhmmmm monkey

[@cringemariobros2516]

The amount of biased is crazy

[@_NormalEditor]

This is all of his videos. There is 0 point watching them because he’s just gonna make the sonic characters win

[@greenspeedser]

​@@_NormalEditorfinally true

[@cringemariobros2516]

@@_NormalEditor next he’s going to say Tails beats Luigi

[@SansINess53]

I remember now, death battle only lets victory slip to certain communities, since remember most of their current fights are just bullshit spam like tails would be destroyed by luigi but they nerfed luigi just so tails wins same with the sonic vs mario video.

[@therealralseideltarune]

DONKEY KONG SOLOS!!!!!

[@boomthestickboi]

YAAAA DK DONKEY KONG DK DONKEYDONKEYKONG

[@nerdydebaterjj]

Bot

[@Demestial]

knuckles solo

[@aireiswhitfield7]

This is way better than Death Battle👏👏👏

[@xandarian07]

No hate but shouldn’t we take into account that DK has gone toe to toe with Mario who based off the feats he pulls he must have some form of toonforce

[@thewentypenalty9727]

You see maro can't beat sonic. And knuckles can keep up with sonic which means that knuckles could probably beat dk and Mario. And about the toon force thing knuckles can just wish that away with the 7 chaos emeralds. As blaze said that if all the 7 chaos emeralds are together a miracle or a wish can happen.

[@highlandave8507]

​@@thewentypenalty9727Knuckles has never beaten Sonic in the games and Mario has only beaten DK by outsmarting him. DK claps Mario and even a super powered Bowser in some instances, and then there's Strong Kong and the wish granting abilities of the Crystal Coconuts.

[@thewentypenalty9727]

I never said knuckles beat sonic I just said knuckles can keep up with him.

[@xandarian07]

@@thewentypenalty9727 I guess yeah

[@banjo9158]

@@thewentypenalty9727 Not really either, Sonic toyed with Knuckles in Sonic Battle.

[@Jolynesimpnumber4]

If Super Knuckles is allowed then Super Kong is allowed

[@elohimbaptiste134]

Ofc but knuckles would still win 😂💀

[@Alexthegoat124]

All the sonic fans when they see this video: 😃😁 Don't celebrate to early sonic fans I will try to make a debunk video I will try pretty soon.. No hate btw

[@SansINess53]

Actually in generations, classic sonic and modern sonic are both able to bring time to limbo to make it come back to life after the time eater took everything, remember this was stated in a cutscene not a USA manual or something like that, it is applied that classic sonic and modern sonic are able to do that because time collided. Soooo classic sonic would be equal to modern sonic meaning classic knuckles would equal to knuckles.

[@johnpett1955]

Bro, you just calculated Light Gaia's feat. Sure one chaos emerald is strong enough move a continent, but not everyone can use the chaos emeralds in the same way. Hence why Sonic needs all seven to go super. Knuckles has never been shown to do any feat that's as strong as Donkey Kong hitting the moon out of orbit.

[@nokingo10098]

Knuckles is stronger face it

[@SlidesHandler13]

Knuckles hit Sonic out of his super form in base which should be invincible.

[@sonicjustin63]

Knuckles is literally the guardian of them. So he may know how to use them better then sonic.

[@cooljrgaming9729]

@@nokingo10098 Where's Knuckles' coconut gun?

[@banjo9158]

@@SlidesHandler13 CLASSIC Super Sonic, he is weaker than even Adventure Era Sonic. it's not that impressive.

[@SansINess53]

Sonic vs mario death battle actually nerfed both characters but they nerfed sonic and mario so much that even classic sonic can beat both with ease.

[@michaelafton2619]

yeah you kinda underestimated dk here if were considering super knux then yeah he wins but base to base dk wins extreme diff

[@highlandave8507]

DK has Strong Kong mode to counter Super Knuckles

[@SlidesHandler13]

Knuckles hit super sonic in base form

[@banjo9158]

@@SlidesHandler13 Classic Super Sonic** which is not that strong.

[@SlidesHandler13]

@@banjo9158 bro what? Again although he had help with beating the time eater he was still able to do *damage* to him which I doubted dk can. Base classic sonic could go to past and present shown in sonic CD, whether or not he's a less powerful version of super sonic his ability is still going invincible which knuckles either using raw strength or chaos energy to knock him out of super is still a good feat.

[@banjo9158]

@@SlidesHandler13 Classic Sonic don't do that on his own, Little Planet have unstable time, it can be future or past at any point, you just need the time stones to control that. Idk why is so hard for you to accept that Classic Super Sonic just isn't that powerful, even if you go by the classic games itself, he never showed up much poweful feats, you saying Classic Super Sonic is less powerful than modern sonic actually nerf the characters more overall than helps your argument against DK.

[@cyberrex7071]

Knuckles actually isn’t as fast as Sonic, but his strength is said he on par to Sonic’s speed (which we know at this point as far surpassed the speed of light multiple times). He also punched Sonic so hard, he reverted him out of his Super Form and made him drop the chaos emeralds. Keep in mind, Super Transformations grant near invincibility and can not be harmed but still knocked back. There are beings however that have managed to damage Super Sonic, such as Solaris, Dark Gaia, and Time Eater. All are deity like beings with a huge connection to the Chaos Force. Knuckles would have been using a chaos energy induced punch to pull that off.

[@NotXenoxXeno]

Donkey Kong stronger😅🎉😂

[@nerdydebaterjj]

Bot

[@NotXenoxXeno]

@@nerdydebaterjj How

[@dantemitsoyu977]

Based on feats donkey Kong Scaling knuckles based on sonic Knuckles

[@greenspeedser]

So knuckles get wanked even tho he doesn't do anything in the modern games

[@DSK_Terrence_Official]

Knuckles is obviously stronger. Knuckles Fans 👇

[@greenspeedser]

Sad knuckles isn't

[@DSK_Terrence_Official]

@@greenspeedser yea he is

[@brittanyfulton3865]

I have a feeling that this will be it’s a good thing for the sonic

[@metalsonic4.1therobothedge24]

Knuckles is easily faster than time itself tho, hypersonic speed is lowball

[@PluggedFaith]

Knuckles is in Bedrock creative mode 🕺🏻

[@jatarokemuri5443]

Knuckles may have large some feats, but he’s always giving 105%. Donkey Kong’s lazier and more carefree, and he still managed to punch the moon down.

[@TheBizarreKnuckles]

Let’s go!!!!!!!! This vid fire 🔥

[@vibecheck6180]

I know Knuckles beats DK with speed and experience alone, let alone other stats like power and defense, but the glazing here is insane for Knuckles. It is NOT no diff 💀

[@PikachuGamerSMT]

Knuckles scales WAY HIGHER Low 1-C whilst DK was High 4-C or something around that anyways still lower than Knux (Source VSBattles Wiki)

[@Guestplayz-Roblox]

DO Shadow vs luigi next.

[@SansINess53]

I love super fake sonic in mania, it is just a cheat code on a cheat code. Gosh it is like sonic absorbing his super form into base.

[@toalesovikk7168]

People need to remember some Nintendo characters are not realistic in their feats, whereas Sonic characters although cartoonish in appearance they are bounded by physics. It’s like Vegeta vs Arale. It doesn’t matter if you are multi universal, you’ll still get beat by a character that defies logic.

[@Candjstudios2024]

Dk once punched at extreme speeds and destroyed a character who is literally considered unkillable. Knuckles dies if he touches a yellow rock.

[@jboyathegamer]

See now at 1:20 super knuckles may be canon but we never have see anyone of sonics first 3 freinds aka tails knuckles and amy go into their super forms in the modern era i dont know why but we've only seen the classic ones go into their which makes 0 sense and at 1:44 would that really count as a super form heroes only gave them bubbles like i said i dont know why sega wont just give them super forms

[@kingnick460]

"Power creep"

[@jboyathegamer]

@@kingnick460 what do you mean?

[@kingnick460]

in terms of power forms, only males from sonic lore can turn into there super states.@@jboyathegamer

[@jboyathegamer]

@@kingnick460 yeah but as I said we never seen them turn super in their modern states it's kinds weird

[@thevideogameclan9639]

Death battle already covered this

[@shardsoftime0952]

It was shit

[@thevideogameclan9639]

@@shardsoftime0952 cool

[@khalidsaeedali8756]

Edit:...Their cover was shaky in bad way

[@thevideogameclan9639]

@@khalidsaeedali8756 Awesome

[@MarcusParoline-hr2wj]

I really hated how sometimes other people would just Nerf one character so that they could just feel better that their favorite character would win

[@Bro_that_cant_sleep]

Take notes Death Battle

[@greenspeedser]

Bro this vid is literally even wronger 😅 but believe what u want ig. It's the best way to cope

[@Shonin23]

@@greenspeedser “Wronger” sure kid keep fucking up grade 1 grammar

[@Shonin23]

@@greenspeedser Literally watch the damn video. You’re the only one coping here lol

[@Talxic]

hey man no disrespect donkey kong hasn't really shown any massive feats, although if it went down i think dk and knuckles would be chill. dk isn't really the one to fight unless you piss him off, same with knuckles so there'd be no fight

[@greenspeedser]

Moon feat literally destroys knuckles

[@thequickmasterrace6]

⁠@@greenspeedserKnuckles Knocked Sonic out of his Super form, I doubt it will

[@The_Gabe]

Eyo do Bowser vs Eggman

[@Javiere778]

Like isn't it obvious at Sonic characters can pretty much beat any Mario character

[@L47Le]

Knuckles only needs 10 seconds

[@BenjaminBroom-n4r]

Dk does have a trick up his sleeve jungle rush (his final smash) imagine being hit an insane amount of times by punches that knock the moon out of orbit

[@DuckyVonSoto]

Bro Knuckles straight up punched the Chaos Emeralds out of Sonic! Screw needing one emerald to do so much damage, he could probably do planetary destruction if you convinced him it'd protect the master emerald.

[@Chawle-ol3fu]

Knuckles wins but that chaos emerald feat doesn’t really contribute because that’s the emerald doesn’t give knuckles the same powers as it . The Emeralds are stated to have infinite energy but the super forms clearly are not infinitely powerful.

[@Xuga027]

Can u make a vid why Super Knuckles is pink😭?

[@NotLegendaryLol]

sonic vs irl weightlifter when?

[@Chill-Noob1]

Irl weightlifter solos

[@Thing_of_somes]

Death battle been quiet after this dropped

[@RYANTHECRITE]

The only thing that might help donkey Kong if they ever got into a battle would be his durability because just like knuckles donkey Kong has also survived hits from powerful enemies

[@ScorpionistheGOAT-om9dm]

So has knuckles

[@RYANTHECRITE]

@@ScorpionistheGOAT-om9dm I know so they're both pretty equal when it comes to durability

[@ScorpionistheGOAT-om9dm]

@@RYANTHECRITE not really

[@ScorpionistheGOAT-om9dm]

@@RYANTHECRITE knuckles got beat by a shadow without his inhibitor rings and also survived the vacuum of space

[@RYANTHECRITE]

@@ScorpionistheGOAT-om9dm yes but donkey Kong has survived an explosion powerful enough to launch him into orbit in the first place

[@theog_spider6212]

if yall wanna learn more about sonic the hedgehog than the CREATORS THEMSELVES, go to him.

[@UniversesUnited]

dawg he doesnt even need a chaos emerald! all he needs is 5 rings and a sandwich

[@ZionPorter-iu7nt]

Nice miner you're such a good miner