Why This Disc Is Making EVERYONE Upset

[@netdaddy]

just wait, they will all drop $10 in price when noone is buying them

[@caseysmith544]

Or at least normal premium plastic prices like $17--$23 like other pro players.

[@edithkramer7689]

This is very true. Unless it's a mold I lean on and have strong opinions about the specific run (Basby eagles, NS fbs, and Heimberg destroyers) I just wait till I find it on sale or super sale and then I buy 2 or 3.

[@caseysmith544]

@@edithkramer7689 I do similar for oop molds like Impact ESP at 170--172 grams, 174--176 gram version, Star Archon around 165--167 grams or Champion Shark 3 around 175 grams midrange distance disc as well as gaps where I need a hook at the end. Stalker, I have a bunch or pre, flight number discs becuse I had to find a new mold as soon as XL was stopped in 2010's and as I did Discraft was running off old stock of Stalkers for a new flight number and a Page Pierce signature disc. I feared all OS fairway and 9 speed were going oop becuse of a dumb comment where Paul Mc Beath said he had no need for a true fairway and 9 speed disc getting all molds gone just to please Paul McBeth. Now in Star Shark around 175 grams, I have 3 good backups one almost G-Star oops but I could use high dome runs of G-Star Shark just fine as my approach disc and super windy putter if need be.

[@JJR0SS]

DD has to pay Rickys salary somewhow.

[@josephkebbekus5780]

I think I'll stick with used bin destroyers (or any other mold lol). Picked up a nice bottom stamped one for $7 last week

[@caseysmith544]

Same Reason I Now use since 2019, F2 Innova where 90% nothing is wrong in actual mold up and have some Misprint Discraft/DGA now like an Impact and one of my Pro Line Titanic was a Misprint where both the stamp was put on and a section was kind of weak.

[@bobbyshizz2138]

Innova F2 Halo Star Destroyers $14

[@vistadiscgolf]

House of Discs need to spend their money on marketing and branding. They've done nothing but show themselves to be all about money, at least pretend to want to "grow the sport". It seems to me that disc golfers buy the players that they are fans of more than anything else. Simon/MVP could drop a $33 disc and it would sell, no issues because they way they market, you don't feel like they are just trying to bend you over (even if they actually are). No one is going to do that for Trilogy now because everything that made them gain their cult following are gone. They used to have the best presence on social medial, now I'm not even sure I could name another pro outside of Ricky and Kona.. It's funny because around 2019 or so, I thought Innova would be in trouble in 5-10 years because these other companies (MVP, DD, Discmania) were doing such an amazing job of engaging their communities and their trust essentially. Now, they are looking great, keep prices down and bank on volume while these other companies basically price themselves out of the market. It's sad, but I'm glad I have an unhealthy collection of discs as to where I'm not pressed to buy anything at this point.

[@tvgreign9882]

They gotta make money to pay for Kona's contract. But on a serious note its way too much and wont help "grow the sport"

[@brandynbeyer5130]

I just got a Proto glow Heimburg destroyer for $23 plus shipping.

[@Christopher-Lenz]

Yea whatever happened to her? She do a Paige n shut it down as soon as she got paid?

[@postjazz1258]

@@Christopher-Lenz she had cancer

[@Christopher-Lenz]

@@postjazz1258 omg that's terrible. 💙🛐

[@HolyCityDisc-iples]

I wonder if DD really understood the power of their social media presence driving sales. When I started getting more into disc golf, the Disc Golf Answer Man show was still going strong. I loved what Bobby Brown and Robert McCall were doing. I purchased Judges and Truths cause they all loved them. I picked up Felons because Eric Oakley wouldn't stop talking about them. Danny Lindal's Physics of Flight series might still be the best instructional content on KZbin. But when DGAM ended and Danny and Anthony were clearly being pulled in other directions, I didn't sense the same love for the game and for those who played it. Now that most of those folks have left DD, I struggle to really care about DD's line up. I've never been impressed by the pros just because of their ability; I'd much rather listen to an AM with clear communication skills and passion. And I will never be able to crush an anhyzer flex like Ricky, so if he throws it, I don't need it (SBSlammer, General, Enforcer, etc.). Now I throw mostly L64, and I wish I could say it was just because I love the Beetle, Keystone, Fuse, and River (which I do). But if I am honest, a huge part of it is L64's KZbin with Jonathan, Johannes, and Tomas making the game and their discs look fun. I think they also recognize that their main market needs to be AMs. The Royal Line plastic has some incredibly throwable discs that have sold very well (Hope, Savior, Trust, Brave, Strive) while the overstable stuff is still great (Glory, Honor, Rive), it just isn't needed by your average weekend warrior noodle arm and so doesn't move as well.

[@curtisridenour]

The glory is my go to overstable fairway backhand and Forehand. I bought two exactly the same for when I lose the first one or it gets too flippy.

[@frog23988]

I started playing in the early 1980s and at that time you bought disc mostly out of the truck of some ones car for around 6.00 and you only had a choice of Innova and Discraft and Lightning. None of which ever cost me more than 6.00 each. When Covid came about I started buying some of the newer discs that had better plastics and love them so much more but 15 00 dollars was my limit on most disc. I will say they are a lot better now but I play a round with my 80s stuff and my newer ones and I gained around 2 to 3 strokes on a round. But hell I am in my 70s now so if I had had them sooner maybe I would have gained 5 strokes.

[@ponz_s]

Welp I mean $6 in 1984 was about $15.50 in 2021 adjusted for inflation and the technology with discs has come very far in 30 years. So paying 20 bucks for a new disc in current year isn't completely absurd. You can also just buy used discs which will be significantly cheaper and do the same thing as most new discs if you know what you're looking for.

[@bwpSnakeEyes]

I just did a quick look--- Every company has discs for sale starting at least $25 and going as high as $40

[@wacky295]

play it again sports, used discs, etc... you can build a pro level bag (18 - 25 discs) for 100 - 180 $.

[@wildrunsdiscgolf]

Great point. Some of my favorite discs are used ones I bought for cheap

[@Clbynrod]

At my local pond I can build a bag for $0

[@p0p_t4rt92]

The sockibomb felon was the same price, and now it's 45% off on DDs website. It's a great disc, and it's worth the sale price ($18), but not much more. Definitely not $33+tax+shipping. Same thing will probably happen with the general.

[@cosmolean]

Ironically disc golf tends to self regulate in the sense most people get into it because it's low cost entertainment in a typically easy access, uncrowded environment. If the popularity increases so much that courses are crowded or start charging fees, and disc prices become expensive it drives away people from the game.

[@VinceRegan]

That is perfect description of open market dynamics

[@curtisridenour]

But there are people like me that like private courses because they are well maintained and not overcrowded. Beaver Ranch is excellent and the season pass is worth every penny.

[@Veggamattic]

I see no reason to buy DD products. Now this gives me even more reason to ignore.

[@tonykaze]

Things don't need to "change". Players just need to stop pretending to be brand loyalists. At this point there are 5 makers for every mould that isn't a Mamba, Tern, or Watt/Ohm. Just shop around.

[@brionbee]

Why is it that whenever I see disc golf being covered on KZbin nowadays it's always about problems and scandal? Don't most of us play disc golf to get away from problems and scandal?

[@benwigginsbikes]

Most people bitching about it can't throw a 12 speed anyway...neither can I though.

[@HARwinsOUTagain]

There comes a point where a player has all the discs they need in their bag and a bunch on the side already. Once people hit that point, they don't buy more discs and then the market slowly starts to dwindle. There will always be beginners coming to the sport to bring it back up but they aren't ones buying all these damn signature discs.

[@cautiousoptimist1926]

I like watching the top players, but I don't care what they throw. And, unless you throw better than 65 mph there is no reason for any of you to care.

[@flyingfishsurf]

The collector's market lost its mind long ago. Hell, $35 sounds cheap.

[@caseysmith544]

Yes, some molds like a very unliked by most people a Discraft Impact is now selling for an average $40 all becuse Paul Mc Beth Found some discs in Misprint stack not selling he used in off season after his first full season with Discraft in 2018. Even a Champion Gator Ring of Gators/older Champion is selling for quite a bit becuse of people hearing hype on disc and how beefy mold is when a Metal flake is going to have almost same beefy flight and is a regular production run disc for $20 pre tax or the shipping cost of around $4--$5.

[@Mdjagg]

No chance a single disc cost more than a dollar to make, post r&d. Manufacturers are feeling the economy sink, and are boosting prices to try and keep up their margins. About to be zero buyers if this trend continues.

[@pres13vt]

Absolutely ZERO chance they cost less than a dollar to make. You clearly have no idea what plastic costs.

[@Mdjagg]

Please, for the record, tell us how much 180g of plastic costs.

[@pres13vt]

@@Mdjagg More than a dollar.

[@lyykuppi]

Well, selling a disc does include creating a company, desinging discs/molds, distributing, advertising, pay of workers, pay of website, sales programs, accounting. You have to count that in also.

[@howdyhey4985]

I remember seeing Kyle Klines Vanguard at my local shop for $38 at release and thought that was absolutely absurd.

[@curtisridenour]

You can have mine for 10 bucks. It is too stable for the slot I wanted.

[@EazyCash1993]

​@@curtisridenour I'll take it!

[@ZachMarshall3]

Disc prices are going up tournament prices are goin up and disc golfers who play and buy disc are going away weird

[@nickfuriously775]

It’s mass produced plastic, with huge amounts of stock held in reserve to inflate prices. I don’t buy anything anymore except when a disc breaks in too much for the slot it fills, and I just replace it, I’m not spending money to test anything new.

[@brandynbeyer5130]

Same! I’ve been on that hamster wheel and I prefer to stay off it.

[@ilikesnow]

Showing Presnell footage while talking about Trilogy was pretty weird.

[@ericjepson3765]

I throw 90% Innova and their prices haven't changed too much in 18+ years. I don't remember ever paying less than $14.99 for Star since the mid 2000's and now it's $18.99. Not bad considering... Also their Tour series discs are only $21ish and those are Halo. So I stick with Innova mostly. Great beer at a tasty price.

[@edithkramer7689]

F2 bro...

[@ericjepson3765]

@edithkramer7689 Yeah, I didn't even mention that. The F2 section is always stocked so, contrary to what was mentioned in the video, trying new stuff is just as affordable as ever, as long as you're trying Innova. I think Star F2s are only $12.

[@curtisridenour]

Wraith, Mako3, Destroyer, Firebird, Teebird, Thunderbird, are all top tier molds against all manufacturers. Too bad Innova's 4 speeds and down are trash. MVP/Axiom has the best putters by far.

[@ericjepson3765]

@curtisridenour Throwing putters are definitely Innova's weak spot, especially if you want something on the flippier side. They have many options, but most of them are doney and kinda meh. I started throwing a Star Invader though and it might be knocking my Envy out of the bag. Certainly doesn't go as far, but that is normally a good thing for approaches.

[@fishblade2]

And this is a prime example of companies testing the water. If this Disc has been successful the competitors would’ve taken notice immediately, and all disks would’ve started slowly going up.

[@adambroussard8192]

Got one as an am payout. Really nice disc. But I thought the vendor just put a ridiculous price on it just to make sure ams didn’t get their money worth from payouts. But nope, it was just actually that expensive.

[@1andonlyMiro]

What do you mean DD:s plastic quality has gone down? I've bought Trilogy products and personally I haven't seen any decrease in quality 🤔🧐

[@curtisridenour]

I agree. I am a huge fan of Lat 64 plastic.

[@superblitz]

My shop has informed me that MVP will start increasing prices. To be fair with the process of creating an overmold, it is surprising they were selling discs for the prices they have been.

[@jre9571]

Even $20 is ridiculous… never mind $33. I like trying to support Pro’s via sig-discs… this is, simply put: Greed. Be it by Dynamic, or Rick, or any other Company ballsy enough to proudly slap this BS $33 price tag.

[@chaostrife44]

They’re just doing it wrong. It’s common for many players to shell out for a signature series disc for a player they like or because it’s a special run or plastic. Examples are plentiful: Calvin destroyer, sexton Firebird, cloudbreaker, PMB anything. What’s missing here is a stock General at the base price. Plenty of people will pay for the premium option if there is a choice, but when you take away that choice it just looks and feels like a cash grab.

[@brandynbeyer5130]

Dynamic is dropping in favor very quickly. I like all disc brands but I could do without any DD besides the Justice.

[@brandynbeyer5130]

Their logo should be handcuffs anyway, why the crown when everything is “jail related”?!

[@goldenruletv7301]

I have no DD discs, but I do have a few Lattitude discs.

[@caseysmith544]

Even other brands made by same manufacture Latitude 64 are more popular in USA. Probably due to company House of Disc/Hall of Disc now running brand, however company has not ruined brands like Discmania becuse brand is not having prices increased by a huge margin.

[@caseysmith544]

@@brandynbeyer5130 Or simple Police badges with a D in each one.

[@d4v1dTV]

You might not even need a Justice after the Swarm came out

[@jannejaakkola5836]

While it's expensive for sure, I think it's quite a bit of an overreaction to draw such conclusions over one disc. At least in Europe, the DD prices are very comparable to other brands and most brands (at least Discmania, Prodigy, Innova, Axiom, Clash to name a few) have more expensive discs than the General. I guess from DD's point of view, this is their big new release of the year and a Sockibomb signature model. I'm just surprised that they really haven't been able to create any hype for the disc so that is why the price feels so high.

[@harleybk3]

I’m one of those “Covid brought me here” players, but from the start I bough almost exclusively used discs, with the exception being several discs from the then $10 F2 stuff from the local shop. Since used premium stuff is so reasonably priced, why not? Of course I understand the need to sell the new stuff. After all, that’s ultimately the source of the used stuff I buy.

[@curtisridenour]

I have never liked Dynamic but I hold a special place in my heart for Lat 64 as I learned to throw forehand with an Opto Trident. I am a huge fan of the royal line plastic and the grace, and glory are excellent discs. But, if House of Discs is going to keep price gouging, i am sure i can find some very similar discs from infinite/innova/discraft to replace them when thry get lost.

[@crusher26638]

Could it be collectors item rather than a better plastic? I seen a Nate Sexton Firebird in the store for $30. I know they sold for crazy amounts as a collector Disc. It’s not my cup of tea, but maybe that’s what they were going for?????? Although if that’s the case it seems like a weak stamp and no one announcement that it was limited edition.

[@serenityinsilence]

I personally blame the Covid boom on this kind of price hike. The huge influx of money into the sport gave manufacturers a false sense of security and they overpaid on their contracts. Now that the demand for discs has dropped, they are stuck with contracts they can barely pay. Now they are passing on the burden to consumers by overcharging for a disc.

[@ryansuter4424]

Brand Loyalty? I see Latitude 64,Westside Discs, Dynamic Discs, and Kastaplast as one company. With that said you buy the General instead of another similar disc because you like Ricky.

[@josephsorenson6924]

I used to be a big paintballer back in the day tournements etc.. these are some of the reasons why i quit after so long. They have priced the average player out of the sport. 30 dollars for a disc is excessive but people will buy it.

[@jwoellhof]

the manufacturer wants to capitalize on a new release instead of selling out to scalpers, so i don't see a problem here. the market will decide the price of the disc in the long run. full disclosure: DD and Ricky fan here, but im not paying $33.00 for this disc. i'll wait and see, maybe find one in a used bin to give it a toss.

[@jacobjohnson6649]

Didn't upset me. Gladly bought a few to help support Ricky. Hey by the way, how has Ricky been throwing that General? 😂

[@mikeslinde5506]

How about Simon’s Tilt……a disc that NONODY can use and yet people are dumb enough to purchase it!….AHHHHH!

[@SJH22]

That person is bitching about 8 dollars They prolly smoke cigs or drink beer or smoke weed (or a litany of ither things that are unnecessary expenditures during our daily lives and this is their cutoff point? Haha

[@vicccey1345]

their trying to find a price point in which the market will bear....I don't think it necessarily comes from let's get our money back right now....

[@michaeutech9201]

discs are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more similar than ya'll make them out to be. work on form.

[@ClearedforAdventure]

I’ll bet your thrasher does fly like your nuke OS

[@dyvel]

On the other hand - you have to be pretty strong player to handle a 12 4 0 4 disc. You probably already spent thousands

[@brodymiller5222]

Solid video with research well done. As a retailer, I am nervous about every decision that HoD makes.

[@bwpSnakeEyes]

Nothing wrong with DD plastic. Beats in quick, and holds stability for a long time.

[@cjkoehler]

If the trilogy brands could start putting out their discs in Kastaplast K1 plastic, that would be great.

[@Gynan]

I've spent more on less. My favorite drivers are OOP lol Vote with your wallet.

[@HonduDan]

I'll pick up a gently used one in a month on the used racknfor 10 bucks.

[@akkadian1995]

The market takes care of itself. They will sell or they won't. Either way, problem solved.

[@Jase-ul5yi]

Yes, it's not a big deal. They come out at that price then price lowers if they don't sell well. Or they all sell out. Lol. That's just how it works. Am I buying one? Yes.😅

[@bensieber6960]

My whole bag is Trilogy; I got hooked with their fantastic beginner discs and have stuck with them as my game has evolved, but the way they've been boosting their prices over the last couple of years, I'm really starting to think about branching out. Lately I've been buying MVP/Axiom/Streamline for my brother, and their prices are waaaaaay better. I like a lot of their molds as well. If it weren't for the awesome used disc section at my local brick-and-mortar I probably would have been buying/throwing different plastic by now. Then again I've learned the value of already seasoned discs, and pick up sweet fliers for well under $10 all the time.

[@wildrunsdiscgolf]

Yeah, nothing wrong with liking what you like. If you dont need to replace much then no need to worry about elevated prices at the moment. But I think competition is going to really drive everyone to compete on price and quality plastics (at least soon, I hope)

[@Trizzer89]

What weirdo gets mad at a price hen they dont have to pay it? Touch grass, people

[@OjaiBonsai]

I think people will buy them. When that happens everyone else will raise their prices.

[@kennethsensenig767]

I agree that $33 is pricey for a disc, but I’m a staunch supporter of the plastic quality of Lat 64. Top notch stuff if you ask me. Also the General is a really good mold, goes really far for how overstable it is!

[@mikethomas5451]

An aweful lot of babbling and repeating the same comments here.

[@championofthesun2346]

Literally sold out day 1. If you dont like it dont buy it. Simple.

[@uppertributaries]

I think the demand is high, so they are banking.

[@Davedoesthat]

They gotta pay that dumb Kona contract. . . Lol

[@allaboutthegyro]

33 is outright excessive for a redone Enforcer

[@robertmarr2700]

Stopped buying DD years ago

[@Clbynrod]

At my local pond i can build a bag for $0

[@JohnFnLopez]

Disks priced above 20 bucks are for other people. I'm only interested in disk priced 15-20 bucks. Oh well. I expect all companies to try to jump on the "supply chain inflation" scam. When they do, f__k them, I'll buy only used discs. Plastic just can't be good enough for price gouging.

[@davidarellano870]

I've been playing since the 70s and there's no way I'd pay that much. I hope they don't ruin the game

[@ulrichvonstomp6031]

Dang Dude! You and I are like dinosaurs! lol. I was doinking discs off of trees on made up courses back then.😃

[@fishblade2]

I’m sure they are going to companies are probably about to start slamming prices up together to make people have to pay more and it wouldn’t be the first time greed has resulted in the destruction of something good

[@jvladcliff4083]

There are literally better discs for less $

[@trilakesrob]

yep, a big swing and miss here on DD part for making the disc "buyable". They ran a huge splashy add for it, Ricky is throwing it a bunch, so maybe the lemmings will buy it, but wow I suspect this price point is over the line for even hype and celebrity motivation.

[@infogobbler]

I'd use it if I found it, maybe.

[@WarlordOfArttr99yhi99y4rt]

I got a Tone Salt from Clash discs for 27.99 that is shipped in from Finland

[@michaelr1397]

You need to remember the people are paying for the players contracts not the company. Like RW probably gets $5 per disc . So the company adds $5 dollars to the disc. They are not giving the players $5 of there money its $5 from the people. That's why price seems high. So remember the people are the ones sponsoring the player not the company. Also disc golf is not Immune to the Inflation in the country right now. Like Paul said in 5 year mark he sold 250,000 disc which netted him one million dollars so $5 disc from the people.

[@S.R.II.]

When I seen the VC's entering the disc golf space I said it would only be bad for the consumer. Things like this prove it. They are not interested in bettering the sport in anyway just exploiting it for profit.

[@teenor1823]

I dispose of my income in the form of plastic all the time. I usually only shop through select online retailers when things are on sale that offer free shipping over a certain amount or hit the used racks at my local disc golf store to keep things reasonable. Went to my local store and spent $105 yesterday and got 8 used discs and 2 new putters (also got one of mine that I lost awhile back too). The base plastic putters were $15.99 and the most expensive used disc was $10. New disc prices at MSRP are nutty.

[@jamesmoulson9854]

I just picked up a used Westside Sorcerer and DD Raider for $10 at Maple Hill Memorial Day sale. Both were in great condition. The only discs I buy brand new now are putters.

[@rocknu55]

There's a saying I actually think I came up with it. "As long as people keep buying it, they will keep selling it." Be smarter with your purchases ladies and gentlemen, it's just a piece of plastic and is in no way worth $33

[@TrashPanda069]

I think where innova and discraft play it smart is sure they may come out with a disc at $23-25 but the follow it up a few months later with a stock premium plastic version for 15-20 and of course some molds go all the way down to base or a base premium mix. They understand no everyone can drop 25 on a new disc so they try and cash in on the die hards and collectors, then open up to the rest of the consumer base. But as you pointed out this looks like a stock premium disc shouldn’t be over 25 IMO and if they need to sell some higher than make a limited run stamp and plastic mix to make it worth it for the die hards/collectors.

[@shahaydaj]

I got mine at DDO and pretty sure I didn’t pay that price for them. I love the disc but I don’t have that kind of money to get more. Guess I’ll throw these two until forever…

[@tcthomlins]

I bought one just because everyone is complaining about the price. I think I’ll give it to my dog and buy another one. Grow the sport!

[@joehand9822]

I notice a trend with all the companies doing signature series for their pros. They also charge more for those signatures But you can buy the same disk With just the artwork which is bomb artwork for a lot less. I will not pay more money for a disk just because it has name on it.

[@wesendreizehn6710]

Raw material for a 170g disc doesn't cost more than 50¢, even if the prices double or triple, its still almost irrelevant for the retail price.

[@tadmckowski3348]

Dynamic discs is not reading the room. If people wouldn’t pay that price for innova halo plastic, they’re definitely not paying for this general.

[@DiscGolfKyle]

That cost is unreal for a disc. What’s happening to DD values??

[@RaleighRich]

An Innova X-caliber is pretty much the same disc. Bought mine for $22 CDN. Still in my bag.

[@rlk7460]

Inflation and also greed

[@Lou-jl4ov]

market so over-saturated.

[@Trizzer89]

It is easy to tell if they use cheaper plastic. It wont fly as well. Performance is the only thing that matters, so always check a reputable review

[@bradromans4719]

I'm not upset.

[@Eaglemadhatter]

I've never paid over $60 for a disc but they were used and signed and sextons and there was 4 of them.

[@haukionkannel]

Just wait $50 discs is not so far future!

[@haukionkannel]

These are not for usage. These are collector items…

[@artem_mma]

This is how much discs cost in New Zealand anyway lol

[@ulrichvonstomp6031]

For that kind of money it should come with a locater chip embedded in it or maybe be able to swim to the shore! 😃

[@thedaytimehero]

Thats cute. Heimburg destroyers are like $42 in Sweden.

[@JaredRichey-ly9qr]

Remember when everyone was boycotting innova because they wouldn’t go all in with multimillion dollar contracts to players? Innova is looking pretty smart right now. That Kona contract aged especially poorly.

[@trev3971]

Dave's been ahead of the game for 40 years.

[@calvinpoon6945]

Just trying to make up for Ricky's and Kona's contract salerys

[@NotSoFast71]

If it’s too expensive, don’t buy it. If it doesn’t sell, then they will not try to sell them for that price in the future. No one complains that Ferraris cost dozens of times what a Toyota does. They simply don’t buy them if they can’t afford them. Toyota doesn’t start selling Camrys for $300,000 just because Ferrari sells their cars for that much. It’s a niche disc that about 1% of disc golfers can throw correctly.

[@eikzoon4008]

this is normal for icelanders for all discs:')

[@fishblade2]

Things like this, scare me about the future of the sport as it becomes more popular more money will be involved before we know it the courses will not be beginner friendly in attempts of making it like what the “pros” play, They will all start to cost money to play, discs will go up as much as they can as long as people will continue to buy them which they will as the popularity grows, and then the more expensive the more that people will take them when they find them instead of returning them to their owner. The community will slowly fall apart. The sport will no longer be about having a genuinely good time with friends. It will no longer be a fun activity to do that doesn’t cost much for people to get into with more popularity. People will start getting greedy and turn it into the most profitable thing they can…

[@JaredRichey-ly9qr]

What makes you think disc golf is going to continue to grow? The Covid boom is over and every company is selling way less discs then they did during the pandemic.

[@trev3971]

The peak is long gone. This is last gasp private equity bullshit. DD will be out of business in three years and Vendis will scavenge the IP that has value.

[@fillei]

Yea in Sweden inova halodisc are 35-50$+ If its a tour series disc.

[@trev3971]

That's a bummer, but not surprising for an imported good. This is a domestic price for a domestic product. Bonkers.

[@hooperbloop7625]

Good luck with that.

[@HenkeGust87]

The bag you working on looking like a BP-1 copy almost. Might be wrong

[@caseysmith544]

BP-1 from Prodigy is replaced by 2 or 3 version of same bag.

[@wildrunsdiscgolf]

My bag has higher density 600D polyester, more durable straps, and water proofing on the bottom of the bag as well as small quality of life changes. I know the look is similar but the durability is much better (and cheaper)

[@HenkeGust87]

@wildrunsdiscgolf durability is key I know prodigy and many disc manufacturers bags got done issues with that.

[@dave42015]

Interesting perspective about the business side of things. Why is this capitalism thing so great? Unfortunately greed is the undoing of many brands that are bought out by vulture capitalist. For those that want a 33 dollar frisbee more power to them. Honestly house of disc probably isn't stressed about how they're selling in America. 33 dollars might jive with their European market where disc golf is more popular and their people do have more disposable income.