4 THINGS THAT ARE KILLING YOUR BACKHAND DISTANCE

These disc golf tips and tricks were most commonly found to improve the players I coach. I am officially not a professional disc golfer yet, but I paired my interest in physiology and coaching to help break down common mistakes disc golfers make with their form. I hope you find this video informational and helpful. If you want to support, like and subscribing would be great. I also have a disc golf shop located in Santa Cruz, CA. I will leave the link to my online store below. Thanks for all your support.
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[@chrisgreene8152]

Out of all the form videos I have watched and it's been many, this was the first time it really made sense what your body needs to be doing. Awesome explanation and thank you!

[@TheDiscZone]

@@chrisgreene8152 I'm glad you enjoyed the video. Hope these tips help and thank you for watching/commenting!

[@angarizna9337]

Probably the clearest and most concise explanation of rounding I've seen. Thank you!!

[@yoyo-uw5hq]

You haven't seen Overthrow Disc Golf?

[@FrigginCatsBruh]

Your channel better blow up! Your demeanor is soothing, so I was immediately comfortable. Then your explanations were the first to ever truly click for me. I've never had a coach or anything, but of all the videos I've watched, this was it. I have issues with all 4 usually. So excited to work on these now that I understand. I started playing 2 years ago or so but almost purely forehand, hitting 300' regularly. Switched to BH this year and do great with approach shots but my drives are hit or miss. And nothing has ever really 'clicked' besides just experimenting and seeing what works. I like detailed explanations and you're great at them! Immediately subscribed brother, thank you!

[@TheDiscZone]

@@FrigginCatsBruh Thanks for the watch and sub, I really appreciate it! Glad you liked the video and hope those tips click for you.

[@FrigginCatsBruh]

@@TheDiscZone thanks man! I'll come back and let ya know when they do 🍻

[@vega1221]

Wow you are a natural at teaching! Keep up with the tips. Ive been playing for about 10 years but never had anyone teach me and had horrible form till about 2 years ago when i started watching videos and filming myself. You have no idea until you film yourself. Been a long journey and i still regress sometimes but def better. Keep killing it ")

[@TheDiscZone]

Thank you, I really appreciate it! It is crazy how taking videos of your form can help you recognize everything that you are doing wrong. I never even thought about taking videos of my technique when I first started either.

[@ivanolson2151]

Great information and techniques that break down elements of the throwing technique that other instructors seem to overlook, very helpful!

[@thrildmedia8798]

I need to watch this on repeat. Nice break down

[@regalrun]

I’ve been playing a year and watching videos and this was so helpful… excellent information and demonstration.

[@TheDiscZone]

@@regalrun I'm glad you enjoyed watching the video!

[@gregreece2826]

Wow. That’s a lot to soak in. The nose of the disc being the furthest away explains why my anhysers peter out and float down. They’re all nose up. Back to the field I guess. Great video. I’m a fan. I’ll check out the store soon. Thank you.

[@TheDiscZone]

I hope the nose angle drills help with your anhyzer releases. Let me know how it goes and I'll see you at the shop!

[@CO77938]

Well done brother. Great stuff and useful.

[@alexxela754]

Grate tips! Haven’t really heard it described this way before. Looking forward to try coiling my hips harder and testing some harder nose down throws😎

[@TheDiscZone]

@@alexxela754 I hope it works! Let me know how it goes

[@thomasmunch7968]

Great video - excellent points and thorough explanation.

[@ConsensusReality]

Great job ... thanks. Definitely make more videos.

[@MatiasPiispanen]

Awesome video. Thanks for explaining these things so clearly :)

[@TheDiscZone]

@@MatiasPiispanen Glad you liked it. Hope some of the tips help.

[@tmaing1980]

One of best videos that i see. Thanks

[@isaiahfuenzalida8615]

So helpful dude. Keep it up!

[@discbee9107]

Awesome video, very helpful! Many thanks 🙏

[@TheDiscZone]

@@discbee9107 I'm glad you enjoyed it!

[@josephroberts3501]

Good video. Information is all good stuff. I've probably watched all the backhand tips videos there are at this point. I've always struggled with nose up after playing 10 years. Even on a good day half my drives are noticeably nose up. Your advice to move the grip into the fatty part of the hand makes sense but feels weird. Almost like its natural to want to get as much hand on it as possible but I'm gonna give it a go for awhile and see if i can't get out of the 300 foot club finally lol

[@TheDiscZone]

@@josephroberts3501 I hope the tip helps! You don't have to go to high into the fatty part of your palm, but try to experiment. Also, you can just try loosening your finger too to see if that helps.

[@josephroberts3501]

@@TheDiscZone just got back from practice and a full round of throwing nose down drives. Thanks for that tip! Couple of them went into the ground but it was fine. They were nose down. Ended up shredding all round. I've been playing a long time and its never felt this good! Subscribed. 😃

[@TheDiscZone]

@@josephroberts3501 Stoked it worked out! I appreciate the sub.

[@ernestibanez1388]

Very helpful and informative, I can’t wait to try out these techniques. Thanks. 😎

[@ernestibanez1388]

Thanks again! I just started 5 months ago at my very young age of 58😅 and have joined the local disc golf club the course I play at is with in walking distance of my home so I am there practically on a daily bases. If I am not at work or sleeping or growing spiritually, I live, breath,watch and play disc golf. On a good release I can reach 250 feet. My club is very encouraging and helpful. “I know these techniques you described on this video will help my distance. It is almost 6am in the morning here in WA state and will be out on the course by 9am. I’ll let you know how much my distance increases in the near future…

[@tobblerone]

Never saw the Grip TIP. Great Advice! Thanks.

[@TheDiscZone]

@@tobblerone Let me know how the grip works! Thanks again!

[@HonduDan]

This is really good, very well explained. Good job man!

[@shoon3175]

subscribed, thank you for making this, been struggling so much with grip-related videos and this one clicked for me

[@TheDiscZone]

That's great to hear!

[@ganyrehs]

Wow, never knew I was rounding a lot. Great video!

[@TheDiscZone]

@@ganyrehs Thanks, hope the tips help!

[@Balanceiskey-nd6el]

Sweet video man thank you so much for making it! Lots of food for thought as I work on my technique. Thanks for growing the sport!

[@TheDiscZone]

@@Balanceiskey-nd6el Thank you for watching it!

[@markoates9057]

Subbed! Great comprehensive explanations of the most critical and common issues. Also, congrats on the store - looks great, I hope it does well!

[@marion1600]

I think that leaning back in the reachback is caused by the idea that people naturally get that the more they reach back the further the disc will fly. I had no idea I was leaning back before I filmed myself cause it didn't feel like leaning back. Our mind can really play tricks to us

[@TheDiscZone]

Yeah, a lot of people, including myself, used to make throwing very complicated. When in reality, all you have to do is keep it relatively simple to throw farther.

[@mortenhalkjrjacobsen3621]

absolute killer video. Thanks man. Request: Nose angel video. I guess it's related to all of the aspects you're referring to in this video. But I think my form is pretty solid, but I throw nose up all the time. I will however try your tip.. if it helps I'll get back. Thanks once again

[@TheDiscZone]

Thanks! Let me know if it works and what changes you notice.

[@gabrielabbas1137]

thank you, i subscribed for more, this was the best explanation i have watched i'll be looking for future videos

[@TheDiscZone]

Thanks Gabriel, I appreciate the support!

[@oldhead_]

Very good explanation..thanks!

[@coolbananaboy5075]

Great video! Thx.

[@coreycalamity1395]

Been trying to fix my nose angle for the last 2 months im throwing 8 degrees nose up mostly and still hitting 400-430 with 62-65 mph. this is the first video suggesting grip as the issue cant wait to try it out.

[@TheDiscZone]

@@coreycalamity1395 I hope it works out. With negative nose angle you would probably be throwing around 480-500ft, possibly more. Let me know how it goes!

[@bustatron]

I don't think this is good, but I started putting my pointer finger mostly straight and gripping harder w/ thumb and other 3 fingers. Nose angle fixed! But disc harder to hold on to for strong swings. His 'loosen pointer finger' tip might be thr ticket.

[@robertkluttz8313]

I'm an older player in my mid 50's combined with being short and stocky and found that I just do not have enough wrist flexibility to throw nose down with a traditional power grip. Also, my hands are not large enough to be able to hook my index finger under the rim if I position the disk more nose down before gripping. i.e moving he back of the disc further up the pad of my thumb moves the front down far enough that i can only hook my middle finger. So something that I found that allows me to get nose down is to only do a 2 finger power grip with my index and middle finger. What little bit of distance I lose by not having all 4 fingers hooked is MORE than made up for by getting the nose down.

[@jakefoust79]

Your nose up cant mathematically be that high given the mph… but one thing that’s been helping me is tensing my abs. Idk why but it seems to magically help my nose sngle

[@coreycalamity1395]

@@jakefoust79 I'm not a math expert but thats exactly what my tech disc says. so you are saying mph is effected by nose angle? also have not had time to throw since watching this video results will be coming soon.

[@punkglitch]

This video was very helpful! Would love a video of more drills!

[@TheDiscZone]

@@punkglitch I'll definitely make more videos on technique soon!

[@pulsatingtimebomb]

Simple explanatio... im going to look for a weight shift version frkm you.

[@AChristopherMathews]

Very helpful

[@barryfischer8608]

You did an excellent job of describing 'How to throw.' Excellent points made on all the aspects of a proper throw - including nose angle. #706

[@TheDiscZone]

@@barryfischer8608 Thanks!

[@nathandonaldson2762]

Great video! Thanks

[@jamppadps]

Corrected the nose angle using the 13:00 method, but it resulted in index finger pain. This is likely because the tilt causes the index finger to be the last to release the disc. The left side of the finger is quite sore after several rounds of disc golf.

[@TheDiscZone]

@@jamppadps I'm glad it worked. Maybe try using the second method and put the disc higher up in your palm to see if that limits your index finger pain.

[@TopdiscFinland]

I have to try new grip ❤

[@VictorPadilla-j5q]

Very helpful 🙏

[@dirtroadscholar]

Great video. Only thing I think there is left for you to do is come to where I live and give me lessons, because you covered it all.

[@TheDiscZone]

I'm glad you liked the video. I do actively coach in the California Bay Area (Santa Cruz, San Jose, Monterey). If you're not in that area, I would be open to online sessions as well!

[@dirtroadscholar]

@@TheDiscZone I'll really consider that! I really appreciate that offer. Tired of being stuck at 325' with my backhand. - I have a question, hopefully I can word it right. This is what I think has kind of been my hang up. At 7:30 in the video when you are talking about that 45 degree motion, in and out of the power pocket. When you do that motion, is it something you are consciously and physically making your arm do at the elbow? I mean, that sounds crazy, but are you consciously and physically folding your arm in at the elbow and unfolding your arm back out? Other people make it sound like the motion of uncoiling your body makes your arm naturally perform that motion and I've never understood that. For me to perform that motion I have to consciously and physically make my arm fold in and unfold out. I don't coil and uncoil so fast that my arm just closes and whips back open on it's own. Hopefully that question makes sense.

[@TheDiscZone]

@@dirtroadscholar​​⁠When I first started correcting my rounding, I was 100% actively/consciously "pulling"/folding my arm into the right placement. It took me a couple weeks of actively practicing with and without a disc to finally get it down. I know a lot of coaches will deem this process as natural or not really have a step by step process to correct rounding, so I decided to make my own. After practicing for a few weeks, I was able to convert this motion to muscle memory, so now I don't really actively think about the whole process anymore. Let me know if I answered your question. I would be happy to go more in depth.

[@dirtroadscholar]

@@TheDiscZone Thank you for that response. I'll get out there and consciously practice getting in and out of that arm fold until I'm not having to actively think about it. It will be easier to stick with it knowing I'm practicing the correct motion. - I think one thing that messed me up, and kept me rounding, was when watching videos in slow motion it makes the elbow fold/bend motion into the "power pocket" look as though they are in that position for longer than they really are. In reality they are getting in and out of it really quickly. - Thank you again. I think you have been of great assistance.

[@pauldupree7862]

Herby k's is my favorite hole in the wall type place.

[@TheDiscZone]

@@pauldupree7862 Can't believe I met someone in the comments that has been to Herby K's. Are you from Louisiana?

[@pauldupree7862]

@TheDiscZone I live in idaho but my family lives in shrevesport. I played the port city open this year and we made sure to go to herby k. That elevation change is something else.

[@bustatron]

This is pretty good video. Thumb up.

[@TheDiscZone]

Thanks, I appreciate it!

[@aaronjohnston1363]

Great video.

[@DiscGolfAU]

Be good if you could do a similar video covering forehand

[@TheDiscZone]

@@DiscGolfAU I could do that. I don't have a stellar forehand, but I can break down the mechanics of how to throw farther. I'll definitely be making more content like this soon though!

[@michaelclarke1716]

Enjoyed the video. 1 critique to your video. I assume you recorded in your backyard or something. Does it backup to a highway or main road? I would try to find someone to record your audio that isnt picking up a bunch of background noise. The sound of cars was pretty prominent. Unless it was just a very windy day. But still rather noticeable.

[@TheDiscZone]

Thanks for your comment. I'm glad you enjoyed the video. I definitely need to get a mic and record in a better area, preferably with no cars or wind lol.

[@jblps]

farther* good tips can't wait to try it

[@isaacfranks2272]

For the last few months, my form has been my best ever. The major catalyst has been leaning back in my run-up. This backwards lean forces me to fully transfer my weight from the back foot to the front. My arm stays loose and my elbow never fully straightens (except on full power shots), so the backwards lean isn’t related to an overextended reachback like your typical student. After watching this, I’m worried that my backwards lean is robbing me of distance and control since I have to straighten my spine during the swing. I’m very attached to my lean though, since I’ve found a very comfortable rhythm, hitting lines up to 380-400 with minimal effort. Do you have any ideas or tips for how to feel that weight shift and ensure that it still happens, even as I try to keep my spine on one plane? I want to fix my spine angle but I’m worried about undoing all my recent progress caused by the backwards lean lol.

[@TheDiscZone]

@@isaacfranks2272 I fully understand your concern. To give you a proper technique tip, I would have to see your form, but I would recommend trying to stay/put more pressure on the balls of your feet during your X Step. This will help activate more muscles in your calf/leg and assist in feeling your weight shift. Also, if you are properly weighting your feet, you can notice that your trailing foot will be off the ground just prior to releasing your throw. Hope I didn't put anything confusing. Let me know if you have any questions!

[@isaacfranks2272]

@@TheDiscZone thanks! Doing field work in a couple days and I’ll definitely be focusing on spine angle and moving on the balls of my feet. If it ends up not making sense in application, I’ll film myself and try to break it down (and if that doesn’t help I’ll come back here with the recording lol). Thanks for the help!

[@dannyherr6628]

I do all of these lol

[@stephenh1387]

Great stuff! How can I practice not foot faulting on my Minnie during walk up upshot’s from the field?

[@TheDiscZone]

@@stephenh1387 Glad you liked it. Try to walk up slower and have a more controlled pace when you walk up. After that, practice makes perfect.

[@stephenh1387]

Thanks! After three years of playing I am finally willing to do field work. Great advise to walk up slowly, I want to incorporate that also in my form when driving off the tee and use your tips above- cuz I know things are off as I’m not gaining distance. Thanks again for the quick reply!

[@TheDiscZone]

@@stephenh1387 Let me know how it goes!

[@Miloshe71]

I would grab a wireless mic to remove background noise

[@TheDiscZone]

@@Miloshe71 Just got one from my buddy yesterday! I forgot the cable for the video thats coming out today, but I'll make sure to use it on future videos!

[@user-yt4kn4gt6c]

Just out of curiosity what is your PB throw??

[@TheDiscZone]

On a golf line, around 470 ft. Typically I throw around 420-440 ft on average.

[@jethrosmith6224]

I’m pretty sure you just saved my rotator cuff.

[@TheDiscZone]

That's good to hear. Need more people playing disc golf for longer.

[@PocketSand1776]

Great video

[@colebrock4695]

This guy straight up looking like a young anthony barella lol

[@TheDiscZone]

@@colebrock4695 😂 thanks. He's 10 months older than me lol

[@FrigginCatsBruh]

AB is young

[@scottw5253]

All great information with the exception of how to get negative nose angle. It really doesn't have anything to do with the wrist. Nose down comes from the effect of gyroscopic precession. It is the slight upward force of the forefinger "snapping" into the thumb at the moment of release. Pete Ulibarri has two really good videos explaining gyroscopic precession and how it relates to a nose down release: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b6C8Y5mFp86WhpYsi=9wzyeKjflNj9iX29 and kzbin.info/www/bejne/sH2UnIyLhrdsiMUsi=Xz5HK6ejK0qNgDu3

[@TheDiscZone]

Thanks Scott. I'm glad you found the video informational. I'll definitely take a look at Pete's videos to better understand nose angle. I use to experiment with grip to try and throw nose down. When I put the disc slightly higher into my palm it seemed that I had reduced my nose angle significantly. I must have induced gyroscopic precession by switching my grip. Thanks again!

[@samibberg105]

I guess I’m the only one confused right now. In the first part you are talking about the hips moving first, then the upper body and finally arm, creating lag. But on the third part you describe this exactly same order as main cause for rounding. Please tell this old man one more time! 😅

[@TheDiscZone]

@@samibberg105 Ah, I can see why you are confused. Generally, rounding is caused when your arm lags way too far behind. So far behind that it leads to your disc being behind your trailing shoulder, which you don't want. You want to activate your arm to at least make a power pocket, so that your shoulder is not experiencing so much stress during your throw. If needed, I can explain it more, but essentially you must bring your disc to your chest if you want to throw far. Hope this helps.

[@samibberg105]

@@TheDiscZone thank you!

[@InsideMario]

Really needed to adjust the camera angle to show your feet

[@TheDiscZone]

Yeah, sorry about that. Realized that as I was editing. Try to visualize your feet being perpendicular to where you are throwing. If you're feet are ever pointing more than 45 degrees backwards (away from your target), you are likely linking your hips and torso.

[@larzen8197]

Tip for your first point. Push your right hip up (if you are right handed). This will force a small x-step and this will make your toes point the same way

[@TheDiscZone]

@@larzen8197 Great way of explaining it. This translates from a lot of other sports as well I just realized. Thanks for commenting.