Why This GRUESOME Jurassic Park Theory Is INSANELY Cool

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Klayton Fioriti

Klayton Fioriti

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@KlaytonFioriti
@KlaytonFioriti Жыл бұрын
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@charlieknight5065
@charlieknight5065 Жыл бұрын
Thank You
@AP-mf4fz
@AP-mf4fz 3 ай бұрын
It was raptors
@MrLynamYT
@MrLynamYT Жыл бұрын
Dinosaurs lose on a cargo boat to terrorize workers would make a really cool survival horror story for Jurassic.
@73Emlo
@73Emlo Жыл бұрын
Maybe that will be the follow up to The Last Voyage of the Demeter. Just a series of trapped on a boat with predators series.
@jbcatz5
@jbcatz5 Жыл бұрын
@@73EmloMaritime successor to Snakes on a Plane?
@Bibochan18
@Bibochan18 Жыл бұрын
Universal, make this a game NOW, PLEASE!!!
@fistinyourface7053
@fistinyourface7053 Жыл бұрын
@@jbcatz5 "I had it with these mothaf*** raptors on this mothaf*** boat!"
@HeinrichCha
@HeinrichCha Жыл бұрын
@MrLynamYT that's a really good idea!
@chaoticinkinc.3145
@chaoticinkinc.3145 Жыл бұрын
The theory persists because they did a HORRIBLE job of relaying that information to the audience. There really needed to be a scene of the rex getting loose or even a just quick shot of them checking CCTV or finding one dying man that can point to the rex right before it busts out of the hold.
@aaronhill8315
@aaronhill8315 Жыл бұрын
Kinda wished they would have moved to one of the other islands for a movie. Like Isla Muerta.
@ethandoyle4978
@ethandoyle4978 Жыл бұрын
That’s something that could happen in the next movie.
@aaronhill8315
@aaronhill8315 Жыл бұрын
@@ethandoyle4978 hopefully but it's in the directors hands
@MrLynamYT
@MrLynamYT Жыл бұрын
That would be awesome!
@duskycat2326
@duskycat2326 Жыл бұрын
Same!!
@RaptorStudios
@RaptorStudios Жыл бұрын
It would be cool if they made a short film of when the T. Rex is lifted onto the boat, when it breaks out later, and how they get it back in. Maybe 15 minutes or something to show what happened.
@carastone3473
@carastone3473 Жыл бұрын
Who got it back into the cargo hold? There was NO ONE left alive on the ship when it got to San Diego.
@UGNAvalon
@UGNAvalon Жыл бұрын
@carastone3473 Obviously that crewmate ended up as Daddy Rex’s last inflight meal before arrival.
@RaptorStudios
@RaptorStudios Жыл бұрын
@@carastone3473 Apparently what happened was the T. Rex killed the guy at the wheel by busting through the wall behind him, but you can’t see that in the movie. The two last people on the boat got in back in. One used himself as bait to lead the T. Rex back in the cargo hold, while the other, who was already injured, shut the door. You can see his hand still gripping the button in the movie.
@shainewhite2781
@shainewhite2781 Жыл бұрын
I've always known about this theory since it was originally in the script but never filmed. There is even art concept of the Rex being loaded onto the ship, while raptors are watching this from afar.
@StoneAxeArky
@StoneAxeArky Жыл бұрын
I remember hearing and reading about the Raptor theory online (back when dial-up was still a thing) shortly after The Lost World came out. And, honestly, I think it makes a lot of sense, especially when you consider the required angle for one of the deaths in relation to the large size of the T-rex on board. Of course, the more likely explanation based on how the ship return sequence was shot could be that Spielberg does not show every angle for the kill inside the ship. But, I do think the Raptor theory makes more sense within the logic of that world based on what is shown, and is a lot cooler.
@thickerconstrictor9037
@thickerconstrictor9037 Жыл бұрын
This all could have been a moot point if Spielberg had just shown some damage to the wheelhouse. There is absolutely zero evidence whatsoever to show that raptors were loose on the ship. None. Except it makes sense in people's heads but the fact is if there is nothing in the movie at all that is relayed to the people watching the movie to tell them that's what happened then it's not what happened. Because there's no point in keeping what actually happened a secret from the audience in a movie. So the answer is a plot hole and it was caused by sloppy filmmaking because they added the T-Rex in San Diego stuff last minute. And could have so easily been fixed
@Captain_Cook917
@Captain_Cook917 Жыл бұрын
Wait I forgot because I haven’t watched lost world in a while .was the baby Rex on the boat and if so could that have been what killed them
@MisterX867
@MisterX867 11 ай бұрын
​@@Captain_Cook917the infant Rex was flown into San Diego ahead of the ship that had the adult.
@Captain_Cook917
@Captain_Cook917 11 ай бұрын
@@MisterX867 oh thx
@wallineric
@wallineric Жыл бұрын
I always found that confusing. 100% of the crew is dead and there's a severed hand in a small space. If you just went below deck you'd be safe from a giant dinosaur. If more than just the Rex was captured (like Fallen Kingdom), chaos occurred on the voyage and then during the dock crash the Rex, Raptors and who knows what else was unleashed on San Diego that would have been insane.
@natedrawsthings
@natedrawsthings Жыл бұрын
That's always been an argument of mine. You can hide from a rex in a small space (like below Decks. It's not gonna fit. Ever.) Where the raptors are much more terrifying because they can follow you into those smaller spaces.
@MarqFJA87
@MarqFJA87 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, this is my only major criticism of the T. rex being intended to have been the sole cause of the whole crew being killed. A lot of them would have been deep in the ship attending to various tasks, like running/overseeing the engine room. That being said, according to the storyboards for this ultimately unfilmed sequence, the captain's cabin in which the severed hand is found would've had a whole side of it destroyed by the T. rex smashing its head into it... and conveniently, it's the side that we're *never* shown in the movie, whether from the outside or the inside. Personally, I would've had a raptor or two hitch a ride to kill off the remaining crew inside, only to eventually die themselves, whether by a mortally wounded crew member managing to blast one in the face with superheated steam from one of the pipes lining the walls or some other environmental hazard on the ship, or a crew member armed with a shotgun or even a knife achieving a mutual kill.
@steel749
@steel749 Жыл бұрын
People can do the mental gymnastics to justify that it was the T rex doing the killing but it never made any sense. I like TLW but people need to just let go of that T rex crap haha
@joshuariddensdale2126
@joshuariddensdale2126 Жыл бұрын
I know it was just an easter egg in Dominion, but it would've been so cool if the guy who looked just like Nedry was actually his son all grown up. It would've given Nedry further reason for becoming an agent for Biosyn. Hammond getting cheap on him despite Nedry having a family to support would cause him to secretly work for Biosyn, since as Dodgson states, Nedry was due to be paid $1.5 million for the embryos.
@ghostmadlittlemiss
@ghostmadlittlemiss Жыл бұрын
Ooh, think I missed that Easter egg. Which guy was that? When abouts in the film was he? Funnily enough, one of the Lego Jurassic World cartoons contained Nedry's nephew. I think his name was Danny. Very clearly for kids but reasonably entertaining, if you switch your brain off and don't expect canon.
@michaeldiaz9999
@michaeldiaz9999 Жыл бұрын
Speaking of Nick Van Owen, was there any confirmation as to what happened to him after the Site B incident? He just disappeared without rhyme or reason and that was so dang frustrating.
@Dinoslay
@Dinoslay Жыл бұрын
IKR. It’s like he ceased from existing.
@romeowhiskey2759
@romeowhiskey2759 Жыл бұрын
@@Dinoslay good, he was an awful and pointless character
@jbcatz5
@jbcatz5 Жыл бұрын
@@romeowhiskey2759He’s the character who caused most of the problems in the movie. Releasing the captive dinosaurs destroyed the communications equipment the InGen team brought, then he unloaded the gun before it could be used to save someone.
@SupremeGreatGrandmaster
@SupremeGreatGrandmaster 6 ай бұрын
Nick Van Owen was arrested, tried, and convicted for all the deaths he caused. He currently resides in San Quentin prison.
@minimaggiit
@minimaggiit 6 ай бұрын
He got sniped by roland.
@Jose_Lopez08
@Jose_Lopez08 Жыл бұрын
Glad your going over the theory of the raptors killing the crew of the s.s. venture it is a great fan theory personally it would have been cool to see in the lost world.
@chris.shamblin
@chris.shamblin Жыл бұрын
An Alien or The Last Voyage of The Demeter type of horror film about what exactly happened to the crew of the Venture could be just the shot of pure terror that the franchise needs. I think it could be a cool stand-alone film on its own, especially if you did incorporate raptors into the story.
@thatonea-hole
@thatonea-hole Жыл бұрын
Voyage of the Venture - Lost World: Jurassic Park would probably be the title if it comes about
@AndrewStonerock
@AndrewStonerock Жыл бұрын
I always just assumed the baby rex killed the owner of the hand.
@Makasennn
@Makasennn Жыл бұрын
The baby was no where near the ship. It was at the park already drugged TF up lol
@BKAngmar
@BKAngmar 11 ай бұрын
Ludlow literally said that the baby rex was taken in via plane
@Venator94
@Venator94 Жыл бұрын
Ah, yes, the Ninjaraptor: nobody saw them, nobody heard them, nobody mentioned them in the movie, but people can swear it was them who killed the S.S. Venture crew. My heroes. ❤
@The-Black-Death
@The-Black-Death 4 ай бұрын
About the concept art of the Raptor scene, you really have to look at the environment with it looking like it's flooding from the pipes in the hallway, along with those valves that are often seen in ships, it makes me really think that was supposed to be one of the lower decks of the ship that were flooding. That is unless you want to say that's supposed to be the basement or whatever for the worker village centre, but the water would've already flooded that whole room even before anyone got there since that place was abandoned for a long time.
@o-mangaming5042
@o-mangaming5042 Жыл бұрын
Now that you've said it, yeah, there's enough bread crumbs to tell us that the Rex was responsible for the crew getting killed, however . . . It really should've been raptors. The baby rex wasn't anywhere near the captain's cabin, and something big like a T-Rex isn't going to waste calories hunting small prey like us. Especially if it's risking injury breaking into a structure like the captain's deck. It woke up dehydrated, surrounded by water. I'm not sure it wouldn't have run to the edge and ducked down to let the water cool it off (I'm assuming it could smell the salt in the water and know not to drink it.) A raptor pack in the tight confines of a ship would make short work of the crew, and actually get enough calories from the hunt to be worth doing.
@maidenreligion12
@maidenreligion12 Жыл бұрын
Remember that it was searching for its baby. The movie shows us that Rexes have strong paternal instincts. Anyone not its baby was a target. That's always how I viewed it, anyways. It was more pissed off than actually hunting humans. Though, that being said it does still follow the 'monster/shark' trope of hunting humans, regardless of how much sense that would actually make.
@ZombieBarioth
@ZombieBarioth Жыл бұрын
@@maidenreligion12 Exactly, most of the carnage done by the buck and doe was alluded to be due to them searching for junior. Then there's the scene where they're trying to mend it's leg in the RV and he cries, alerting the parents who then proceed to attack the vehicle, pushing it over the edge of a cliff. That alone shows they may have an intellect similar to crows. Now imagine that, but on a cargo ship, with a baby t-rex potentially on the loose as well crying for help.
@o-mangaming5042
@o-mangaming5042 Жыл бұрын
@@maidenreligion12 Yeah, it's very much a monster thing rather than an animal thing. Even wild animals don't break walls to hunt for their babies, because walls f*cking hurt even when you're bigger than an elephant. Wild animals don't have health insurance or money. No trip to the hospital for them.
@thickerconstrictor9037
@thickerconstrictor9037 Жыл бұрын
Those bread crumbs are far more than people have to support that it was raptors. It's irrelevant what it should have been. The fact is it was always the T-Rex. There is absolutely nothing else that shows it could be raptors except for the fact that the T-Rex couldn't fit in the wheelhouse. There's literally nothing. And if it's a secret from the audience then it's nothing more than a pipe dream. Because there's no point in making the answer unknowable by the audience. The fact is it all could have been fixed simply by showing damage to the wheelhouse.. but the real true answer people just are uncomfortable with but people's discomfort doesn't make their other hypotheses true. The fact is this team and the San Diego stuff was added and the very last minute and it was sloppy and it's a plot hole. There were no raptors. It was always the T-Rex it was just done sloppy
@The-Black-Death
@The-Black-Death 4 ай бұрын
@@thickerconstrictor9037 There's concept art of the raptors watching the t-rex being loaded onto the ship and in the flooded lower decks of the ship, not to mention the homage to the first book with the raptors getting onto a cargo ship and the arm scene from the first book. There's also context of Pteranodons preying upon fishing boats that got too close to the island earlier into the movie as well. But I guess we just aren't going to talk about that at all.
@anthonyarnold531
@anthonyarnold531 Жыл бұрын
What if….It was the spinosaurus? His snot fits in the doorway, just saying🫣
@nemesisyt2338
@nemesisyt2338 Жыл бұрын
He's been created in 1999.Two years after The Lost World
@SpaceSponge
@SpaceSponge Жыл бұрын
I still to this day believe it was raptors I just can't see a huge giant T-Rex being able to do that much damage in tight spaces
@chilldagod1441
@chilldagod1441 Жыл бұрын
I agree, def a huge plothole they didn't care to make well-defined. Anyone who's read the books would immediately connect the dots with the velociraptor tails seen on the boat as it sailed away. And the rex big ass head never would fit in that small space without destroying it where the arm was hanging
@thickerconstrictor9037
@thickerconstrictor9037 Жыл бұрын
No matter how much you believe it you're still wrong. There's no point in having the answer be raptors when absolutely nothing in the movie relays information about it being raptors to the audience. It can't be raptors if we don't know it's raptors based on something we see in the movie or even concept. The fact is it was the T-Rex and it's a plothole. And no matter how much somebody wants it to be something else, it's not. The T-Rex couldn't have been its head in there which is why it was a mistake that was due to all that material being rushed because it was a last-minute addition by Spielberg it could have easily been fixed simply by showing damage to the wheelhouse but there was never supposed to be raptors on board nothing in the movie at all therefore there were not it's just a mistake.
@chilldagod1441
@chilldagod1441 Жыл бұрын
*tiger scratches at air making aggressive tiger snarl sound*
@The-Black-Death
@The-Black-Death 4 ай бұрын
@@thickerconstrictor9037 Yeah but that's one thing too, with the way the ship is built, there's no way possible for the T-rex to angle itself to drive it's whole head into the whole wheelhouse like you said. But at the same time I can see how it could've been Raptors or even Pteranodons when you put them into context, especially the concept art which clearly shows a Raptor in a flooded deck of the ship that definitely doesn't look like the flooded basement of the worker village Centre, not to mention the other concept art out there showing the raptors watching the t-rex being loaded onto the ship from afar. With the hand being possible for the T-rex if it could get a grip and just bit or tore him out of the wheelhouse, if not paying homage to the arm scene in the first movie with the Raptors idea, along with the part of the Raptors escaping off the island by getting onto the cargo ships in the first book. Along with context we have of fishermen being known to go missing from being too close to the isle, which can really only mean Pteranodons unless they docked onto the shore, and we do see Pteranodons at the end of the movie. Overall the scene is meant to be mysterious BECAUSE it was rushed seemingly so there's a few ways you can look at it when you consider the context here, so really the only way to view it is with context and put it into perspective to interpret these things if we aren't given a clear answer because we seemingly won't get a concrete one, because the T-rex one even then simply isn't good enough to write off as the answer once you have that context. Writing it off as a plothole will get you nowhere when you haven't even looked at or considered the context at play.
@mrjacktraphere3665
@mrjacktraphere3665 Жыл бұрын
Will the legend reply?👀
@KlaytonFioriti
@KlaytonFioriti Жыл бұрын
Yes
@joeyblaze2509
@joeyblaze2509 Жыл бұрын
Love the vids man idk why Universal hasn't taken some notes from the channel
@charlieknight5065
@charlieknight5065 Жыл бұрын
Agreed 💯
@michaeldiaz9999
@michaeldiaz9999 Жыл бұрын
Heck, raptors on a boat and a crewman with a gun fighting them off would make an awesome videogame in my opinion.
@Cxxpzyfzx
@Cxxpzyfzx Жыл бұрын
I fr wish universal would go back and make more movies like the return to Jurassic park but they would probably never and all I can do is dream
@xReMi13x
@xReMi13x Жыл бұрын
man i wish we wouldve got the trex escaping on the ship scene in the movie. that wouldve made tlw so much cooler! btw, tlw has always been one of my favorites of the series
@gokuprince88vegeta35
@gokuprince88vegeta35 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you uploaded a video Klayton BTW today is my birthday 🎂 🎉 🎈
@Dragoncurve
@Dragoncurve Жыл бұрын
Happy birthday!
@RogueT-Rex8468
@RogueT-Rex8468 Жыл бұрын
Would have loved to see the loading scene. Honestly would have filled gaps and really just been fun to watch- poor buck though.
@Dinoslay
@Dinoslay Жыл бұрын
I personally hope that they’ll slightly retcon the deaths on S.S Venture back at 1997 as having been caused by the raptors? Why? It could open up a nice sequel in the current World timeline where the OG raptors can at last see some action again in the form of a plot where a long established breeding population of Sorna raptors is discovered deep within South America years after the classic trilogy incidents. Turns out that these not only are the culprits responsible for the Buck getting loose on the boat but have also evaded discovery on the mainland for so long due to a very special ability. Again borrowing from the Crichton novels(like the film-makers should have long ago), due to a high amount of chromatophores in their skin these raptors were actually capable of blending into their surroundings long before the Indominus Rex was even a glint in Henry Wu’s eyes, a genetic accident leading to the deadliest species of stealth hunter in the world now responsible for modern day myths of hupia making people disappear in Costa Rica. Cue present day dinosaur experts being called in to investigate, finding out that InGen’s lysine contingency plan did did absolutely squat and figure out a way to safely coexist with the living remnants of John Hammond’s original park project now occupying new territory while trying to survive attacks from this blast from the past.
@charlieknight5065
@charlieknight5065 Жыл бұрын
Showing LOVE for my absolute FAVORITE channel period Thank You for another great video once again my friend I've been a subscriber for several years now and I've been a huge fan since day one and honestly thanks to you for all your videos over the years and how they truly have helped piece together the entire Jurassic Park franchise I truly do appreciate it Klayton seriously man. Thanks again and have a blessed weekend everyone. I'm Charlie Knight and I approve this message LoL
@HK_roller_delayed
@HK_roller_delayed Жыл бұрын
Facts.. about fiction..
@shainewhite2781
@shainewhite2781 Жыл бұрын
4:40, this was also a deleted scene, showing an extended Raptor fight scene between Malcolm.
@pirateraider1708
@pirateraider1708 Жыл бұрын
My old take on it: Raptors got on the boat, attacked the crew, then the T-Rex broke free and attacked the raptors and the remaining crew, save for one guy who was already down from a raptor attack. The last raptor fled into cargo hold, followed by the Rex, and the guy used his dying moments to trap them in there.
@Levinewak
@Levinewak Жыл бұрын
Would a like to see Metriacanthosaurus with camouflaging abilities
@shainewhite2781
@shainewhite2781 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video!! See you later!! Stay safe.😊
@klynol
@klynol Жыл бұрын
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@KobitaPara-b5q
@KobitaPara-b5q Жыл бұрын
vare cool video
@Dean20105
@Dean20105 Жыл бұрын
Hello love your content
@LBTElectricDinoOnline
@LBTElectricDinoOnline Жыл бұрын
Pretty awesome video about the gruesome death scenes in the Jurassic Franchise especially The Lost World Jurassic Park and I do agree that The Lost World is very underrated and I pretty much agree with your points on the gruesome death theories in the Jurassic Franchise. Great work on this and as always, Take It Easy and Life Finds A Way.
@johnschwalb
@johnschwalb Жыл бұрын
Me: click video and see no comments. Checks when video posted. 50s ago. What are the chances....
@Serjo777
@Serjo777 Жыл бұрын
Raptors in the narrow corridors of a ship would be _the_ most terrifying scene ever, if well done. I don't think anything could ever top that. Would also be cool and incredibly intense if that was part of a JP horror game, and a guaranteed heart attack if it's in VR ^^
@chaosthebaryonyx6344
@chaosthebaryonyx6344 Жыл бұрын
Heck I even got chills from the monolophosaurus in the mansion in cc. Especially if it's super quiet and dark with the only sound being the ship going left and right and then a dude opens his flashlight and seeing a raptor eating one of his crewmates. So gooood!
@JakeFromYoutube
@JakeFromYoutube Жыл бұрын
8:11 how about a "Jurassic Cruise" movie? Takes place in the 90s, a cruise ship heads down to Costa Rica, passes Nublar and raptors get on the ship, the same way some had been escaping. From there on it's pure chaos and everyone trying to survive best the can. And for an added bonus, maybe after the raptors had been defeated, I'd have a Plesiosaurus attack the boat towards the end of the movie, maybe 2, causing the ship to crash or sink, leaving very few survivors, and whoever is left to swim to the nearest island or island the ship crashed into/neat which would turn out to be Isla Sorna.
@krisfrederick5001
@krisfrederick5001 Жыл бұрын
Jurassic Park was a horror movie. With cute lunchboxes for kids. And we absolutely loved it
@TheBombayMasterTony
@TheBombayMasterTony Жыл бұрын
That theory is really cool and would make for a great scene in a film.
@t-rexcellentreviews1663
@t-rexcellentreviews1663 11 ай бұрын
Raptors on a Boat, the next spinoff to Snakes on a Plane.
@eddiehoplight2003
@eddiehoplight2003 Жыл бұрын
I'd imagine that's how the tiger stripe raptors and jp3 raptors got off Isla sorna, some rich dude wanting velociraptor attack dogs for his mansion, goes in with some mercenaries tranquilizes the raptors, they wake up on the ship, eat everybody and then the boat crashes in a similar manor to the ss venture
@nicholaslienandjaja1815
@nicholaslienandjaja1815 Жыл бұрын
Another fan theory I once saw: The crew was attacked by some sort of sea creature (this came before the Mosasaurus in Jurassic World).
@doofenshmirtz1327
@doofenshmirtz1327 Жыл бұрын
Maybe the raptors killed the people and the T. rex ate the raptors. Only reason I think this is because there is not enough collateral damage for this to be a T. rex
@DarthVader-ux4uk
@DarthVader-ux4uk Жыл бұрын
This movie was so brutal lol I can’t believe my dad took me to the movie lol 1997
@ethancoolbro18gamer86
@ethancoolbro18gamer86 Жыл бұрын
Good video! (I haven't watched it yet)
@lanceams483
@lanceams483 Жыл бұрын
I want a "battle of big rock" type of short series where we see explanations for some of these interesting sequences. The T-Rex on the Boat is up there, but I'd also like to see more about Isla Sorna Site B before it was abandoned, and even more about the early stages of Jurassic Park's creation.
@GabbaGhoul3000
@GabbaGhoul3000 Жыл бұрын
Right! Imagine people getting killed during the building of the park, and them just covering it up. Also agree on Site B before the hurricane blows in
@VanguardEmmett
@VanguardEmmett Жыл бұрын
Theory: what if they were pterosaurs that had been flying away from the island and attacked the boat while in the middle of the ocean.
@andreiagaldoni1509
@andreiagaldoni1509 Жыл бұрын
Hi Klayton!
@kaijuslayer3334
@kaijuslayer3334 7 ай бұрын
The T-Rex theory just makes no sense when you consider how big the ship is. Ships like that have a lot of under deck space and there are people who stay below that deck most of the time to man most of the ship’s functions and keep an eye on it. There’s no way a Rex could ever kill everyone on the ship because there would still be people under deck in areas the Rex could never get to.
@shainewhite2781
@shainewhite2781 Жыл бұрын
6:10, i still believe that it was Raptors that killed the crew on the ship.
@DinoMasterBrandon
@DinoMasterBrandon Жыл бұрын
Hi
@CasualPrince8
@CasualPrince8 9 ай бұрын
Klayton did a video explaining this exact same thing a long time ago that currently has over a million views, but I'm pretty sure the reason he made this was 1. To go more in-depth on the topic, and 2. Because people STILL won't shut the fuck up about this. This is basically Klaton saying (in the nicest possible way): "There weren't any f*cking Raptors on the SS Venture, you eejits." Like...The Lost World has been out for literal decades now. It is a LITERAL FACT that the Rex killed the crew, however badly they showed that being the case. So...can we stop discussing it?
@guillaumebabey4484
@guillaumebabey4484 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, back in the day nobody in my circle EVER mentionned that raptor hypothesis. Must of us suspected either Pterosaurs (since the movie concludes on a Geosternbergia/Pteranodon) or even marine reptiles because they were already present in lore and merchandising even if we never saw them. That piece of concept art was nowhere to be found in my place and the internet was still only burgeoning back in 1997. As for the T.rex breaking out that was the official answer and critics back in the day overtly critised that ellipse in the final product as a plothole.
@thewanderingbeard7506
@thewanderingbeard7506 Жыл бұрын
Yeah , sorry buddy but you are absolutely 100% wrong. I mean the very simple fact that a t Rex couldn't fit inside the cabin .... that's basically an end all be all. Like legitimately physically impossible. I think they were trying to suggest raptors got on the boat , based on the first book. But it was literally not possible it was the Rex.
@Devin_Stromgren
@Devin_Stromgren Жыл бұрын
I've always found the question of what killed the guys on the parasailing boat in JP3 far more mysterious.
@marcusraines4803
@marcusraines4803 Жыл бұрын
I thought it was the baby t-rex back in the day. But I remember my dad and uncles questioning this plot point. Good times.
@echo1eyesonly13
@echo1eyesonly13 Жыл бұрын
How the Jurassic World franchise would most likely handle a Raptors on the ship scene - As the S.S. Venture sails towards the mainland, one of the ships crew hears a sound that causes the hairs on the back of his neck to stand up. He turns around to see a Velociraptor is staring at him. His eyes quickly scan the ship where they spot a second Raptor approaching his location. The Raptors have boarded the ship and now their hunting us he thinks to himself. As the two Raptors approach the worker he slowly raises his hand towards them, signalling them to stop. The Raptors look at the man with his hand raised at them, and roll their eyes, thinking to themselves, why does everyone keep doing that to us lately? Do they actually think that would work? After the ship crashed into the San Diego dock and the Rex had escaped, Ingen workers from the Press conference board what's left of the Venture and are horrified by what they find. The bodies of the crew, each with a hand missing, are everywhere on the ship. The Rex couldn't have done all this on its own, one Ingen security worker thinks to himself. Just then, he hears the rev of an engine, and quickly turns around to see several Velociraptors on motorcycles jumping off the ships deck As the final Raptor makes her jump, she shouts back at the security worker, "So long suckers."
@FarradMuseumofTruth
@FarradMuseumofTruth Жыл бұрын
Thank you. May Allah bless you. You bring ease to many, surely you know this, with such passion and hardwork.
@VaciliNikoMavich
@VaciliNikoMavich Жыл бұрын
Maybe it was the Stealth Carnotaurus? Could have massacred everyone since its “element” is night time. Could have killed everyone, ate its fill, and then left.
@ChaserJonDoe
@ChaserJonDoe Жыл бұрын
Dinosaurs being loose in a remote area with nearly/fully uncontacted tribes or just fully isolated communities could be fun to see
@DelainaTheJurassicFan
@DelainaTheJurassicFan Жыл бұрын
I believe that the Raptors killed everyone on the S.S Venture...and a Plesiosaur! Though, yes, we never got to see the Plesiosaur on screen, but could this marine reptile have played a part in killing everyone on the boat? Great video, Klayton! Keep up the great work!
@nathanielwindsor9146
@nathanielwindsor9146 Жыл бұрын
Can you explain your plesiosaur theory a little more? Nothing I’d considered before but I’m intrigued on your vision.
@Deathallo3
@Deathallo3 Жыл бұрын
I think it could occur in several different ways, honestly. But, wouldn’t there be lots of parts everywhere if raptors did it. either way, I like all of the ideas of such horror.
@verdant2215
@verdant2215 Жыл бұрын
What's really scary is the fact these genetic abominations actually killed many people and they were never euthanized for it. They were rounded up and sent back to the island. That's what really scared me.
@mrnorthernspitfire3067
@mrnorthernspitfire3067 Жыл бұрын
The concept art looks quite similar to the card that you got with the Raptor toy that was tied into the first movie, it was the one that opened its jaws if you pushed its leg in.
@kaytlinjustis5643
@kaytlinjustis5643 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, considering the fact that there's still a SEVERED HAND, literally CLINGING to the cargo-ship's wheel, and no other sign of the remaining crew members... A T-rex makes sense. Amputated hands will still cling or clutch something when connection to the brain is lost, especially from a gruesome death.
@regalecusglesne3022
@regalecusglesne3022 Жыл бұрын
it's stupid. how does a tyrannosaurus 5 meter tall and 20 tons heavy get into a ship bridge and slaughter the boatswain, only to then return back to its enclosure? not to mention the others who died in narrow corridors. if the tyrannosaurus was responsible the ship would've least been torn to shreds by the animal trying to move around.
@DissectThatFilm
@DissectThatFilm Жыл бұрын
The only way I don't feel it was the raptors is the fact they're not on the boat when it crashed. Where did they go? Are they on the mainland? So many questions.
@LinkSergilBelmont
@LinkSergilBelmont Жыл бұрын
6:53 “Resident Evil: Revelations Jurassic Park style.” I know there's already the Dino Crisis video game series by Capcom. But imagine if Capcom or Naughty Dog and Universal work together to produce a survival horror Jurassic Park video game. The plot is heavily inspired by the books with some elements from the first two films. Gameplay or controls can be similar to modern Resident Evil games or The Last of US games.
@fedevto
@fedevto Жыл бұрын
Klayton! Greetings from Argentina. I swear I think I've seen all the videos you've uploaded. This is my favorite KZbin channel, because, well, I love Jurassic Park just like you. I want to comment on something that got me thinking in the video. Hopefully, they'll give us fans some love with a movie based on some part of the books, or for example, raptors escaping to one of the islands that aren't Nublar or Sorna, because we have Isla Matanceros, Isla Muerta, Isla Pena.We all think of thousands of ideas to make a good, bloody movie just like we fans want. They could also do something about the creation of forbidden species on Isla Sorna before the Hurricane Clarissa ruined the labs etc. I swear I want a good movie in a few years , not a 15-minute short. I'm tired, I want some real JP content. I'm saying this after Dominion, which, for me, was an insult to Jurassic Park fans. Well, looking forward to your next video, Klayton. You're awesome!
@baddragonite
@baddragonite Жыл бұрын
It is a plot hole but I kinda like how they keep it mysterious even if there is some explanation
@andrewcoulthard-clark
@andrewcoulthard-clark Жыл бұрын
Klayton, in 2018 you covered the cancellation of Jurassic World: Survivor, and ended with a question mark about if it might be released along side the release of Fallen Kingdom. Is that something you could revisit please, now that you know more?
@dareka9425
@dareka9425 Жыл бұрын
They should've let the T-Rex smash out of the ship WHILE it was docking. No absent raptors, no long dead dead crew, no mystery, no decades long fan theories. Just a ship crew not administrating the sedative properly and not realizing that the T-Rex is fully awake while they were distracted by Malcolm and friends' protests during docking. It'll be a bit of a homage to the Raptor cage scene at the start of Jurassic Park and in line with Malcolm and friends' unintended manslaughter of other people with good intentions throughout Lost World.
@victorribeiro6772
@victorribeiro6772 Жыл бұрын
"Resident Evil Revelations meets Jurassic Park" would probably be one of my favorite things ever
@thickerconstrictor9037
@thickerconstrictor9037 Жыл бұрын
The one and only issue that I have with this scene that makes it sloppy is the lack of the hole in the wheelhouse. That's literally it. It's not at all hard to see how the T-Rex could have done everything else. The T-Rex is essentially overdosing on the animal version of fentanyl. So they give it what is essentially narcan to stop the overdose. This turns the animal into a raging locomotive like they like to say. It breaks free of it supports and starts attacking the crew on board. If they had just put a hole in the wheelhouse to show how the captain got attacked, everything else falls into place. The T-Rex attacks the crew and mortally wound one guy but doesn't kill him right away. The T-Rex chases the one or two living people down into the cargo hold and the crew member that is mortally wounded crawls over to the button and closes the T-Rex in the cargo hold before dying. Now everyone is dead and the T-Rex is stuck below. Nothing remotely remarkable about that. And the hole in the wheelhouse shows how the T-Rex was able to leave the severed hand on the wheel. That would have literally fixed the whole scenario. At the end of the day the entire San Diego stuff feels really out of place in an otherwise wonderful sequel. I think this sequel was just about as perfect as it could have been until the San Diego stuff happened. It was rushed and probably needed about 15 more minutes. Now don't get me wrong I still love the San Diego stuff because I love T-Rex and I think that overall it's still the best sequel hands down but they definitely were sloppy with that last 15 minutes or so. And it could have all been at least passable if they just put a hole and some damage to the wheelhouse. But I don't think there's any good evidence whatsoever that raptors got loose. People always try to come up with a hypothesis to explain stuff but nothing gets revealed to the audience about that hypothesis happening so it makes absolutely no sense. There's no point in having there be an answer to something that in no way is relayed to the audience whatsoever. If it was supposed to be raptors they wouldn't make it a secret from the audience. Because what people are doing now is just looking at it as if it's real life and saying if this is real life this is how it happened, but it's not real life. it's a movie. there's no reason to hide the answer from the audience. the answer is that it is the T-Rex. it always was the T-Rex. it always will be the T-Rex, and it doesn't matter if raptors make sense to you or not. that's not the answer. It was never raptors nor was it ever supposed to be. it will never be raptors whether the wheelhouse plot hole makes sense or not. The fact is it's a plothole. And as much as it may suck to hear, sometimes plot holes exist and there is no logical answer and that's the case here. but the answer is not raptors just because you are uncomfortable with the fact that there's a plot hole
@princessmaly
@princessmaly Жыл бұрын
No way dude, it wasn't raptors, and it wasn't the rex either. It was Dracula!
@bigalgames7963
@bigalgames7963 Жыл бұрын
If only Lost World could get its own "Snyder Cut" per say
@Wolfbane1677
@Wolfbane1677 9 ай бұрын
When I was younger I thought it was the baby T-Rex but a few years growing up and I realized how stupid that was because the baby was at Jurassic park LA. XD
@livjohansson-morrison4682
@livjohansson-morrison4682 Жыл бұрын
questions that remain are: why didn’t the tyrannosaurus doe stop inGen from abducting the baby and getting away with her husband? Why did the tyrannosaurus doe give up after eating Burke from continuing to pursue Van Owen, Harding and Kelly?
@binchillin888
@binchillin888 Жыл бұрын
You keep saying it's factual when it's really still speculation. There is no way a hand would stay attached to the wheel while being killed. You say someone led it back into the cargo hold, they would have had to close the door and nobody was left on board. No bodies were found. How do they close the hold door with nobody operating the controls? I'm not going to say it's raptors, I'll say it's a sloppy effect that's really just there for shock value with no explanation. It's a PG-13 film after all so remains wouldn't have been left laying around to see whether they were human or dinosaur.
@akhasshativeritsol1950
@akhasshativeritsol1950 Жыл бұрын
Ok, ive never seen that concept art before, but i do remember thinking as a kid "That severed hand is weird. Maybe velociraptors did it? Cuz like, that Trex definitely didn't do it...."
@Emperor_Oshron
@Emperor_Oshron Жыл бұрын
speaking of the question of what killed the crew on the _Venture,_ i remember way back when on Jurassic Park Legacy some alternate theories were floated that it might've retroactively been the spinosaurus. and, jokingly, that the one or two survivors who weren't killed by the spino then got terrorized by ghost pirates XDDDDD a bit more seriously, my own preferred take on what was responsible for an alternate continuity of the films is that it could've been troodons in the vein of _Jurassic Park: The Game,_ inspired by some being inserted into the side-area of the scene in the _Lego Jurassic World_ game, which i'm convinced is a reference to the theory that raptors were responsible
@varanid9
@varanid9 Жыл бұрын
That the Tyrannosaurus Rex could kill everyone on the boat is ridiculous. EVERYBODY was in the hold?? How did he kill the guy in the wheel-house? And if he was on deck, how did he get back in the hold? Highly unlikely scenario on top of another highly unlikely scenario on top of yet another highly unlikely scenario would have to be the case for this to happen.
@Aaron-hu4wl
@Aaron-hu4wl 10 ай бұрын
Couldn’t the juvenile T. rex be the one responsible for the severed hand? Would explain the small space being undisturbed.
@LamangoKaijura
@LamangoKaijura Жыл бұрын
I still don't know how that big t-rex head fit in the main cabin of the ship to eat the driver. The whole cabin's intact. But my new theory? It was Jeff Goldblum. He broke loose on the boat and ate everyone making his dinosaur growls.
@noahlongoria6006
@noahlongoria6006 Жыл бұрын
Funny thing when I first saw the movie I remembered it differently during the trex San Diego scene , rampaging through the city it was a trex , pteranodon and some long neck dino like brachiosaurus causing mayhem. I don’t know I’m getting mixed up with some other movie or show but some reason that’s what I remembered
@nseven1117
@nseven1117 Жыл бұрын
what killed the people on the boat? Mr. Freeze: The Ice Age!
@roycehuepers4325
@roycehuepers4325 Жыл бұрын
Hmm... kinda wanna start a horror comic like this now... though maybe a cruise ship for raptors instead... like Dead Island kinda feel but with dinosaurs. 🤔 which would be a good nod to Jurassic Park and World. Now I gotta think on this
@chichiboypumpi
@chichiboypumpi Жыл бұрын
It's like did a certain big sword-wielding, spiky blond hair boy pork with a beautiful, raven-haired fighter under an airship, and the creators confirmed that they did but still non-shipping fans have opposing opinions.
@KimKhan
@KimKhan Жыл бұрын
If ti was the T-rex, I just have a question. Who killed the machinists? Did every single working person on the ship die?
@JohnBustt
@JohnBustt 3 ай бұрын
I always figured the baby Rex killed the captain. The captain probably investigated the main incident of the T-Rex becoming loose on the boat, somehow gets injured, and ends up being eaten by the baby Rex while he is at the wheel. Made sense to me when I was a kid at least lol.
@johngaracinii8827
@johngaracinii8827 Жыл бұрын
I genuinely don't know where else to ask lol but, I've written a dinosaur book recently and I'm trying to find websites where I could have a test audience. Any ideas? LOL
@floydharper1216
@floydharper1216 Жыл бұрын
The art has nothing to do with the lost world, its from a card that came with one of the raptor toys from fhe first movie, the one that didnt make sound
@GTalon5
@GTalon5 Жыл бұрын
To add more fuel to the fire. The game 'Jurassic Park: Rampage Edition'. If you play as the raptor, the last level is getting onto a cargo ship.
@alexsanchez5629
@alexsanchez5629 Жыл бұрын
If it was Raptors, what happened to them after the SS Venture hit the San Diego docks, were they killed in battle with the crew or jumped off to the ocean or the T-rex consumed the Raptors?? So many damn theories 😅
@rocarolan2003
@rocarolan2003 Жыл бұрын
To this day I criticize Spielberg throwing that San Diego scene in at the end. It should have been in the third movie. Plus if you are going to do it. Why not at the very end have Malcolm find evidence of raptors just as the boat leaves with the trex. Then it's a mystery if raptors have actually gotten to the mainland.
@andrewsmallacombe9468
@andrewsmallacombe9468 Жыл бұрын
I can see a "dinosaur hunter" movie based on the concept of raptors (and other dinosaurs) escaping to the mainland. Maybe with either Nick or Billy back in a major role.
@ryanhogge8
@ryanhogge8 11 ай бұрын
Sorry boss, you're missing out on a view because of two unskippable ads. Have engagement instead.
@Centauratron
@Centauratron Жыл бұрын
The severed hand in the wheelhouse still damns the idea of the Rex killing everyone because they didn't show a giant hole for the Rex to have shoved his head inside, and no degree of saying "continuity issue/mistake" will make people overlook it. Without that giant Rex head-sized hole, our options either become raptors loose on the ship or this Rex can alter its size like Ant-Man and casually walk into the wheelhouse through the door. Whether or not the hole was present in old storyboards doesn't matter since it didn't make it into the actual film and in that context...raptors are pretty much the only thing that make sense.
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