Why This Man Shot 16 Dead Including His Mum | Killing Spree: Hungerford | Absolute Crime

The Hungerford massacre was a spree shooting in England on 19 August 1987, when 27-year-old Michael Ryan shot dead sixteen people, including an unarmed police officer and his own mother. But why?
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[@pateicialane4740]

If you think someone with a gun dangerous tell the police at least you tried!

[@BariLopesh]

Hungerford is 6 miles from where I live, in 87 I was at a playgroup, we were scheduled to go for a. group picnic on Hungerford common that exact day but we didn't end up going because a few kids were ill and it was decided to cancel it.... I don't really remember it but my parents mention it every time something about Michael Ryan pops up 😬😬😬😬

[@orderofmagnitude-TPATP]

Where abouts are you? I'm now in Corsham but was near devizes

[@BariLopesh]

@@orderofmagnitude-TPATP Still in Thatcham for my sins 🤣

[@davidharcula2933]

Still may I say sorry to all human being who Lost Life n family of All

[@lindagatti7796]

Countries all over the world have to start focusing on mental health. Money well spent if adhered to.

[@JesusAlfonsoRafael]

you have no evidence it even works luv, just wasting more money on social services that do nothing but spend money - doesnt address any root causes of anything

[@sueallen952]

Ive lived in wales all my life, im 68, never heard of any gun killings ever unless ive lived under a stone!!!

[@unalunar7362]

The ghouls tourists afterwards were awful. Looking for bullet holes etc. sick!!!

[@onetiredempath]

People do Really love to “rubberneck” crime scenes Came up on a car wreck years ago, knew all but 1 of the people, teenagers, involved and it traumatized me so much I cannot rubberneck again. Also, cannot go by that intersection again without reliving the accident. Changed me!

[@allancouceiro9255]

In 1987 I was 11 years old, I remember my parents talking about some terrible crime they'd heard about on tv. We used to live in a small town, it was nowhere near Hungerford, but I just wanted to be part of this story for no reason.

[@sueallen952]

I think you need a hobby

[@jamesb.9155]

Fortunately for Britain and similarly in Australia, within ten years of this event, most all guns were taken out of public hands and out of the the hands of any and all such fey random fellows resulting in a safer society.

[@JesusAlfonsoRafael]

Americans wont like that

[@carmencita.k]

That's pretty bad,6 hours before the Police caught up with him!!😧

[@tinajefferies5682]

All 4 men who went on gun rampages in the UK, used legally held weapons. Michael Ryan, killed 15, injured 16 (Hungerford, Berkshire, England 1987,) Thomas Hamilton,killed 17 - 16 children 1 teacher (Dunblane, Scotland 1996), Derek Bird, killed 12, injured 11 (several small towns - county of Cumbria, England 2010), and Jake Davison,killed 5 [1 child] injured 2 (Plymouth, Devon, England 2021). All had mental health problems. Says a lot for the UK gun licensing system.

[@cocksure8430]

150,000 people die every year from cigarettes, 200,000 from alcohol. All legally sold and owned. Every year. Boring news stories....

[@allancouceiro9255]

Four men, from 1987 until today? I suggest the gun laws are working very well.

[@joe6146]

Raul moatt?

[@cocksure8430]

@@joe6146 Hardly a rampage was it? Killed one guy (because his idiot ex told him it was a policeman she was cheating with while he was in prison, signing his death warrant, the horrible little c*nt..) One officer shot in face, survived until later suicide due to blindness, and shot-injured her. Should of killed her and let everyone else alone if you ask me. Mass shooter? Nah....

[@orderofmagnitude-TPATP]

One of those that is terrified of a pew pew....

[@garrieleepeck8753]

I remember this like yesterday i spent many year's looking deep into it .very interesting

[@stevemartin6144]

Was he "celebrating" the 45th anniversary of the Dieppe Raid in some insane manner? He was after all a "Military Nut" and loony toons.

[@montanamangum4026]

Could be! That's an interesting take.

[@DarkStar-wu9nq]

That’s a German victory so it’s highly unlikely if he was a military buff 😂

[@everest9707]

Probably not, considering that the Dieppe Raid did not start with the kidnapping and murder of a woman picnicking with her children.

[@richardmesser388]

I was camping in the savernack forest the day ryan killed his first victim. Myself and my dad were walking the forest at the time. When we returned to the campsite, we were told not to leave the site, and throughout the day we heard the shots in nearby hungerford.

[@poppydrury1376]

:0

[@janetmitchell3559]

It put HUNGERFORD on the map of your mind ...you'll never forget. X

[@IngramPetersJr-nr7rm]

Pat Pantziarka is a dead ringer for Zlatan!

[@brandonhurt7980]

Bs

[@michelle7377]

If your life is that awful, why not just do your self in, why kill and wound so many. I will never understand!! RIP to all that lost their lives.

[@paigeleigh2554]

❤

[@natecanale7889]

Rule#1, dont point a gun at someone unless u need to protect yourself or your family

[@TheConspiredOne]

Rule #2, dont be a pussy....fight with your fists.

[@Fred-rj3er]

Don't point a gun at anybody unless you intend to kill them.

[@meggold3422]

People who think nothing of killing a lot of people would certainly not care if the guns they were using were illegal. All firearm bans do is leave citizens to be sitting ducks. Also, due to the lax immigration status in many parts of the world, as well as the underlying reasons for violence not being dealt with, legal citizens are being murdered, sometimes just with knives or even bare hands. The West no longer know how to defend themselves anymore, and worse, people are believing more and more that they shouldn't. God, provide comfort to the victims' families, and be with us now.

[@roaropgard8575]

Oh my god😢😭

[@requiscatinpace7392]

That bumpkin in the grey hoodie should be a character in the Vicar of Dibley.

[@sandrabeck8788]

It is such a joke that people love to say”guns don’t kill, people do!” If this guy had a sling shot, or a spoon, instead of an automatic rifle, it would have been a different story. Guns don’t kill indeed.

[@montanamangum4026]

Or use a knife, an ax, or a vehicle. Guns don't kill. It's a tool. That's why guns aren't charged for murder, people are. This isn't a weapon argument, it's a mental health issue.

[@bullast2046]

And spoons make people fat. Pencils make people stupid.

[@montanamangum4026]

@@bullast2046 I knew that spoon was the cause! Roflmao 🤣 wonder what sporks do???

[@richardmesser388]

A water pistol maybe??

[@bullast2046]

An automatic weapon? Your ignorance is showing.. but Remember.. Kane killed Abel with a rock.. stop blaming the inanimate object.. they just sit around until someone uses them, I’ll intent or not.. like a hammer.. did you know, statistically speaking, hands and feet are the leading cause of death? By a lot.. what about automotive deaths each year? Crickets? Typical

[@scotttait2197]

What i dont get is this says he used a kalashnikov Ak47 , but wiki sais it was an M1 carbine and a barretta! , it was a chinese type 56 not a genuine AK

[@katherinecollins4685]

Awful man

[@montanamangum4026]

As an American, this broke my heart. Had hoped a country with strict gun laws would never experience a mass shooting. Guess Murders happen everywhere. Truly sad. Our world needs to do better with mental health. Thanks for the great posts! I too was ignorant of when the UK implemented gun restrictions. I'm still heartbroken 💔. Brit or American or anyone else, I hope we figure it all out before more die. I watch true crime. Our world has problems, people. Not individual countries...OUR World 🌎🌍

[@peternagy-im4be]

Then why doesn't America do something about it then? The latest guy Biden seems little more than a comatose sheep. Stop the ridiculous free use of automatic weapons etc. But no you just carry on until the next massacre. Utter insanity.

[@Ziggletooth]

Don't use this tragedy to assert your misguided brainwashed political views. The logical error is so obvious that it can only be attributed to willful ignorance. Are you against vehicle licenses too? After all some people will still drive without a license. Let's just ignore the many many more accidents that would result in significantly more incapable people habitually driving everywhere. Total deaths from firearms per 100k people UK 0.24 USA 10.89 Yup, no issue there... I mean it's not 0 for the UK so that means 0.24 = 10.89. It's only 45x more. Fact: Violent crime levels between the UK and USA are comparable but significantly less deaths in the UK due to less of those involving fire arms. I don't care how you justify your flawed ideology, that's the reality. Deal with it or don't whatever but don't use this situation to assert your political views while trying to disguise yourself with superficial politeness like a cult leader raking in their victims.

[@yukiefromoz2573]

They happen everywhere. Just not as often as America.

[@montanamangum4026]

@@yukiefromoz2573 ya, I know. :(

[@zachall101]

This was what made the gun laws strict, it wasn’t after the laws had been passed

[@kurt44mg42]

At 27:53 Not an AK-47. Strictly speaking, it was a Chinese (Norinco) Type 56, which is a licensed derivative of the Soviet-designed Автомат Калашников.

[@55tranquility]

I remember this happening I was 11 or 12, it was all over the news, Hungerford is an hour away from where I live - in fact I was there today. I used to know a guy who was there on the day and was from Hungerford, and was in the same school year as Ryan. He says everyone knew he was a weird gun nut, it was common knowledge. In fact he used to boast about driving around with his machine gun in his car. Even before the UK introduced its strict gun laws banning all automatic weapons and handguns, gun crime was practically unheard of outside bank raids, there wasn't a gun ownership culture - so this was the first time something like this had happened, hence the response was the complete tightening and restrictions of firearms.

[@floridagolf2010]

We have had 4 gun rampages in 30 years. America has that many bi monthly. We dealt with guns properly, unlike the land of the free

[@natecanale7889]

Either way killings happen

[@motojunkie8348]

Y'all can't even deal with all those Muslims and Africans taking your white women. Sit back down.

[@dashippo]

​@@natecanale7889 A little like saying a papercut is the same as a beheading. The severity matters

[@TheConspiredOne]

Yeah American's are basically in the stone age with guns still hahaha.

[@montanamangum4026]

Yep, we have guns. The entire world has murder. Doesn't matter how or with what you murder with, the victim is just as dead. Instead of comparing and judging, Mr. Collings, you might come up with a solution to our world wide mental health problem.

[@clare2401]

All the Americans in the comments getting over excited about a mass shooting that happened in Britain almost 40 years ago 😂

[@peternagy-im4be]

In their insane country this happens every month yet they just shrug and carry on. America the great satan.

[@marianamelendez7397]

It doesn't make it any more or less horrific. It's not a competition, it's a tragedy.

[@clare2401]

@@marianamelendez7397 Who said it was or it wasn't......

[@marianamelendez7397]

@@clare2401 laughing at things like this isn't a good thing

[@NevadaLamb]

Your comment depresses me. I was born a year after this happened. Why you gotta remind me I’m almost 40?!! 😭😂

[@MuhammadAdamGhamkoley]

An incel.

[@TonyMontana-bl3qe]

Michael Ryan went straight to hell🔥👹 😫

[@missdeebates]

Not sure about that, but life became a living hell for his victims, survivors and their families, still feeling it today and every day.

[@erikaleonard2848]

💔🥺

[@susanwilliams4953]

Evil coward. May the victims rest in peace..

[@juniusvindex769]

He was at the shooting range in Devizes early in the morning of the shootings. I had a client who spoke to him wandering about by her house by the range. It was only later that day via the news, she realised who he was and his hold-all was full of guns and ammunition.

[@orderofmagnitude-TPATP]

Oh wow. I'm in devizes

[@davidharcula2933]

Still the devil's way of control u ur free will n ur anger 😡

[@DBEdwards]

Such a tragic tale. I thought such bloody outrage was American

[@davidharcula2933]

Still u professional Rick u Life thk u

[@billdesmet3929]

These police are so Slow, unacceptable!!! 😢

[@missdeebates]

It is a very small town, by the time that extra police and armed police arrived most of the killings and wounding were already over. The first officer attending was killed, he was there pretty quickly.

[@davidharcula2933]

Still had many chances to stop.

[@birdshenanigans8506]

Tactical officer my arse...

[@davidharcula2933]

Still he had a chance to stop.

[@billdesmet3929]

Just a spoiled Liberal child that never was told NO........ Zero Accountability and Discipline-

[@avago2day]

I was a member of a gun club from 1985 to 1987. I remember distinctly target shooting in the indoor range with one other person stood on my left side shooting a Colt 1911 .45 caliber with an extended magazine. That person was Michael Ryan. I used to visit a gun shop in Marlborough with my father-in-law, a shop where Ryan worked (he always made out he owned the business, but he didn't) when anyone he knew, including us entered the shop, the first thing he would do was to grab a pistol from under the counter a point it at us (for a laugh). We all knew he was totally unhinged and would never be able to own a firearm or shotgun certificate, but for a bent police officer my father-in-law knew, and I met once or twice, bragged he was so clever that he could get anyone the appropriate certificates, and that's what he did! I only knew his first name, and will not mention it here. I knew a few of the victims (through my father-in-law) who lived at the time in Chilton Foliat, less that 2 miles from Hungerford. May they rest in peace.

[@missdeebates]

I'll make a point of directing that police officer, you mention, to your comment and see what he has to say about it.

[@realflorida211]

Mum 😂😆😂

[@davidharcula2933]

Still gun laws over board?

[@orderofmagnitude-TPATP]

Yes. Criminals care nothing for laws. Punishing only law abiders. Bad people exist and will use something else if they can't get hold of a pew pew. Biggest victim count in usa by 1 person wasnt done by a firearm; but a truck.

[@carmencita.k]

Can't remember how long his rampage went on for,but if the woman in the petrol station rang the Police ASAP and told them what happened,I wonder how long it would take for the armed police to arrive.😢

[@scotttait2197]

Woman in petrol station was 2nd victim she wouldnt have been able to call

[@missdeebates]

​@@scotttait2197I don't think she was killed, I believe that he fired a shot and the gun jammed, she probably did call the police, not sure if Froxfield is in Wiltshire or West Berkshire which would be Thames Valley Police.

[@missdeebates]

Not sure if Froxfield is in West Berkshire, Thames Valley Police or Wiltshire, which has its own police force.

[@Franklin22sas]

You had derek bird the taxi driver whitehaven cumbria killing people aswell

[@elainetalling1797]

And ..

[@peterkavanagh64]

Car!?

[@amplituhedron1300]

Made any covid lockdown resisting far harder,,,

[@michaelwalton-ii1ch]

mike gattin

[@antonyross9957]

he was on magic mushrooms or something!

[@Steven-ze2zk]

He looks like Hitler in all of those pictures.

[@reallyryan_]

how

[@Steven-ze2zk]

@@reallyryan_ Similar face and expression. Have you not seen the child picture of Hitler? Compare it to the child picture of this guy.

[@dude926]

​@@Steven-ze2zkwait you are actually right

[@dominewimbury2039]

🤣 You yanks piping up makes me lol. At least our gun laws don't allow this sort of thing anymore! You lot still get at least one a day because you don't want to bother sorting it out

[@donnaw4249]

They don't "allow it" but it still happened nonetheless. Imagine that.

[@orderofmagnitude-TPATP]

​@@donnaw4249OP does not understand Criminals don't care about laws

[@janetmitchell3559]

, I almost cried at the moment he shot HIS MOTHER. ... so Tragic It put HUNGERFORD on the map

[@cocksure8430]

No, Ordnance survey put Hungerford on the map.

[@janetmitchell3559]

@@cocksure8430 you know what I mean

[@missdeebates]

I really did cry, when he shot my mother and killed my father.

[@dipiti8739]

Gun culture and hunting exists in UK too, like in US. Those who make arms and ammunition, and they are keen to sell them for money.

[@orderofmagnitude-TPATP]

And bad people exist without fire arms. Biggest victim count in the USA wasnt done by any fire arm - but with a truck. Do you look at me with contempt because I own xbows that are fast cockin and magazined and go through bullet proof armour?

[@wendyhall7630]

dreadful thing but the only person that xpoliceman cared was the shot policeman. every human being matters who are murdered weather you are police, soldiers. lords ladys etc. e are all the same and should be respected as the same human beings. lots of peolple murdered that day not just that the policeman. sorry if i sound horrible, but you get fed up with this

[@samanthamcdonagh7856]

Why do people always say “we never got a chance to find out why” These people must be really thick if they don’t understand the concept of rage and indiscriminate violence.

[@fredflintstoner596]

Mrs Richards: "I paid for a room with a view !" Basil: (pointing to the lovely view) "That is Torquay, Madam ." Mrs Richards: "It's not good enough!" Basil: "May I ask what you were expecting to see out of a Torquay hotel bedroom window ? Sydney Opera House, perhaps? the Hanging Gardens of Babylon? Herds of wildebeest sweeping majestically past?..." Mrs Richards: "Don't be silly! I expect to be able to see the sea!" Basil: "You can see the sea, it's over there between the land and the sky." Mrs Richards: "I'm not satisfied. But I shall stay. But I expect a reduction." Basil: "Why?! Because Krakatoa's not erupting at the moment ?"

[@davidharcula2933]

Still ur All innocent person.s

[@RBS314]

I can’t believe armed swat teams weren’t able to confront him earlier, before he committed so many murders. I guess in the US I’m used to seeing these spree murders stopped sooner. Such a screwed up society we live in.

[@mydogky]

Our police at that time were not armed ,and very few people had guns, even today our police aren't armed though we do now have more armed units, our gun laws are very strict and not available to the majority of uk citizens. The good thing is these type of events are extremely rare here in the UK, this happened in 1987, there are only a couple of other events that have happened similar to this ,so its very rare occurrence.

[@stevemcelmy9354]

The Uvalde massacre wasn't stopped quickly. The police that day hid outside.

[@KainisDarc]

Right, lets be surprised that it take time to come to some small village with proper units.

[@peterkavanagh64]

Most ly foods

[@plywoodcarjohnson5412]

A bit like a miniature Ukraine. All of a sudden the local Putin starts attacking. Leaving a trail of bodies behind.

[@RunningFreeForeverFree]

Maybe it's me but he looks like a young Donald J Trump.

[@cunicularium5424]

Omg I swear I was coming to the comments to say that exact same thing 😂😂😂😂😂

[@elhuddleston17]

I'm for Trump but he could be long distance relationship. I had married short time I drove a handicap bus in KCMO 1989-91 I lived around 20 miles South one day while waiting at the therapy school I went in to have a look in a large room children was doing different exercise I noticed one boy and did a double take he looked exactly like my husband's male family members I mean with a buzz hair cut, sport shape glasses polo golf shirt with the three buttons at the top, blue jeans bagging in the front area and tennis shoes the black ones with stripes on the side the kind you get at the time from Kmart only thing was he was like a wet noodle. I thought wow but forgot but back in again later and he was there I asked one of the women about him they said he was given up at birth because of his birth defects and a nurse adopt him because she had training in his issues. So I say to my husband one day about the job and the little boy he said he had a great nephew his niece gave up the boy because of birth defects. I said wow it could be him. We went over to his brother's house of the boy and my husband said something to them they was never allowed to see him or talk to him but the adopted mom would give up dates to his older brother and grandparents so they brought a picture out of the little boy and it was the one at the center on a large ball I had seen him on.

[@davidharcula2933]

Still ur responsibility

[@sihammer7942]

One positive aspect that came from the madness of this event was it brought about the ban of the sort of weapons that no regular citizen has any business whatsoever, owning. The whole issue of guns + gun ownership is far from complex, comparing the UK with the US provides results as clear as you could ever want, the reality of things is plain for all to see. Where guns are freely available within society there is a high level of gun crime + violence, as we see in the US. Where guns are banned + strictly controlled, that society will experience very little gun crime + violence, as we see in the UK. It really is that simple, by removing a threat from society you remove, or at least reduce, the threat it offers. As I said, it's far from complex, in fact it's painfully obvious, which leads to the question of the US + the carnage they allow to continue, unchecked, to this day. What is going on in America, mass shootings, school shootings, gun crime is out of control + they do nothing to prevent it, wtf is going on??? Well, again it's quite simple to answer that question but it's ugly + it can't be justified, which is why you rarely see it brought to any attention. I like to do so, though, I've followed this issue for a number years, now, there's something about it that's most unusual which keeps me interested, it relates to the fundamental question I mentioned before. America + guns, what is going on?????? The voting majority feel that owning guns is in some way important, so much so they're willing to ignore no end of violence, everything that comes with guns in society, as long as they get to keep their guns they're happy. That's how it is, America wants its guns, why they should be allowed to keep them, however, that's something no one is able to provide a satisfactory answer for. That's the unusual thing I was on about, an issue you're either for, or against, + in this case the majority are for guns, they just can't come up with a credible argument to support their being so. How do guns benefit American communities, what advantages do they offer????? Errrrrrr....... Questions like that, they haven't got a clue!!!!! A common attempt to justify themselves is to state, the right to bear arms is in The Constitution.......... So what, the idea that makes it right is laughable, typical of what you get with regards to this matter. Guns have no place in a modern society + offer nothing beneficial to it, that's quite simply a fact, another one is people don't need a gun, they have absolutely no good reason for having one. Protection/Self-defence, is the reason most often given for having a gun which again I find laughable. People say that without thinking, unless they're a moron, otherwise they'd realise there's not much sign of any protection coming from all these weapons, the US is the most dangerous nation in the developed world, fool!!!!! Trying to justify any pro-gun stance invariably leads to looking like an idiot, I can walk all over any of the same old arguments that people use, I enjoy doing so, it's easy enough + requires little intelligence, I prove that much quite clearly! Anyway, just to be clear before I go, America loves its guns, guns they don't need, can't justify, + bring nothing but crime + violence, no amount of which, however, could ever justify giving them up, at least not to this day.............. In the future, who knows?.?.?.?.

[@DarkStar-wu9nq]

1987 - very rare event to have a mass shooting Mass Illegal immigration - monthly massacres …… = part and parcel of U.K. - Sidiq Khan

[@Dnay-f8r]

Monthly massacres 😂 must be living in a different universe to the rest of the country

[@DarkStar-wu9nq]

@@Dnay-f8r Oh how funny massacres are You sick POs

[@jamesb.9155]

You've got black illegals migrating in running amok along with a large Moslem population. What could possibly be going wrong?

[@davidharcula2933]

Still we must believe it God 🙏 100

[@elainetalling1797]

God is wicked

[@lawxx6]

How can this happen inside the UK? They have a zero tolerance for guns

[@danielrobbins9776]

Amen. It's funny how having a zero tolerance policy doesn't seem to keep crazy gunmen from killing. It's really weird, right?

[@borkboxtv8167]

There's alot of crime in the UK with guns amd knives trust me not as bad as some places but it's bad people tend to think the UK has no crime snd that is definitely false because we do

[@livewellwitheds6885]

@@danielrobbins9776 at least this doesn't happen ALL THE TIME like in the US. In each of the last three years, there have been more than 600 mass shootings, almost two a day on average.

[@clare2401]

This happened in 1987. We didn't have our gun reforms then. After Dunblane in 96, that's when we cracked right down on it. We decided two in 10 years was plenty enough

[@Fred-rj3er]

Only since this and Dunblaine lol. I assume you are a pro gun American lol. Look to your own.

[@bokvarv1926]

I don't like the insinuations that something triggered this, it was never triggered, it was his choise. he chose to kill, he wanted nothing else than to kill and that is what he did, this was done by a man that only wanted this a man that chose this, independently of any childhood factors, ot having a bad bay, or not hugged enough por other silly excusee. Please CHOOSE then act, and ONLY that, the WHY is never relevant at all and just an excuse

[@montanamangum4026]

Actually Sir, the why is relevant to many. Not to excuse the perpetrator, but rather to be able to identify the mental problem so it can be used as a preemptive strike to prevent another incident. I agree with you. No one can determine another's choice. It's impossible.

[@bokvarv1926]

@@montanamangum4026 the why has a place, but only ti understand, never to excuse and unfortunately it is only used to excuse and thus it needs to be gone, no WHy at all, If I shoot you in the chest and you die, the WHY matters little, no WHY can unkill you

[@DavidLJarvis]

Hi.

[@danielrobbins9776]

Hey Britain, America's 2nd amendment might actually help your citizens with the ability to defend themselves.

[@dashippo]

Hey America, maybe fix your own issues first. 131 incidents (and counting) of 4 or more dead since the start of the year. Nobody needs your "advice"

[@TheConspiredOne]

How was the new school shooting?

[@clare2401]

​@dashippo Exactly. The Americans are out in full force on this video. This happened almost 40 years ago, it's that rare they made a TV episode about it. If we did a TV episode on every mass shooting in America, we'd be there watching every day for the next thousand years

[@TheConspiredOne]

@@clare2401 They are soo blinded it is funny. When will they wake up and realise.....it is like a teenager who hasnt grown up yet.

[@Fred-rj3er]

Daniel 😅😂😂🤣😅🤣😂😂🤣😅😅🤣😂😂🤣😅🤣🤣😂😂🤣😅🤣😂😂🤣😅🤣😂😂🤣 YEEEE HAAAAA. MAJOR BOMB THE BARSTEWARDS! PMSL.

[@cocksure8430]

The word you want is 'DID'....