Why this Omni-Wheel is Really Weird

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James Bruton

James Bruton

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@jamesbruton
@jamesbruton 2 жыл бұрын
Check out part 2 - will it balance on one wheel? kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJDFiYpoq8ueo5I
@Prank-_-Patrol
@Prank-_-Patrol 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know if you know this, but herbie was ment to me in fan4stic, and was ment to be just like the robot at the start of this video, but with a soccer or basketball!
@ccmc919
@ccmc919 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y5vUc36QoLWhbpI
@ChrisHillASMR
@ChrisHillASMR 2 жыл бұрын
This really grinds my gears.....need to angle the teeth properly for engagement. Deeper grooves. Gears need to engage properly to get any work out of them. I wish I lived in a higher IQ dimension.
@hxhdfjifzirstc894
@hxhdfjifzirstc894 2 жыл бұрын
I really couldn't figure out the potential advantages of a single complicated wheel over 4 simple wheels... What is this going to be applied to?
@cartoonhead5819
@cartoonhead5819 2 жыл бұрын
The Mel science web site is garbage. Nice Clear Pricing!!!! No request for subsription or info... WTF
@dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668
@dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668 2 жыл бұрын
The Honda U3-X looks like a chair an evil mastermind would have
@lancethrustworthy
@lancethrustworthy 2 жыл бұрын
I want several of it and its further evolved descendants.
@leftaroundabout
@leftaroundabout 2 жыл бұрын
It looks like something a hilarious Bond villain caricature played by Mike Myers or David Mitchell would have.
@scrocrates6380
@scrocrates6380 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking
@TechyBen
@TechyBen 2 жыл бұрын
OK Go did an entire music video dancing with these. XD
@remy-
@remy- 2 жыл бұрын
We miss the option for the evil-sidekick-cat 😂
@H34...
@H34... 2 жыл бұрын
here as well as with some of your gearbox videos (harmonic drive, and I think one of the cycloidal drives), you use flexible filament for grip or ductility. It does do both of those things but it also saps efficiency and puts more load on the motor. Think biking on a flat, soft tire vs an inflated and much harder one. It's a balancing act to get grip and efficiency, but in my experience most 3d printing flexible filaments are too soft for transmission rollers. Maybe try PLA rollers with just a thin rubber tire on the small wheels for grip.
@EgorKaskader
@EgorKaskader 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, compared to the traditional machining, hobby-level printers may be working with tolerances of 0.1 - 0.2mm even when tuned quite well, which is a lot more slop than you'd expect from machined parts. That could have an impact on how well harder rollers grip.
@syedsulaiman8380
@syedsulaiman8380 2 жыл бұрын
Have you ever used TPU depending on the infill u can't make it very hard I don't think ur they are as soft as you think they are
@H34...
@H34... 2 жыл бұрын
@@syedsulaiman8380 I've got a roll of TPU and have seen lots of other people's prints as well. It may feel "firm" to the touch but its still very soft as compared to the rubber on a tire or drive belt.
@H34...
@H34... 2 жыл бұрын
@@EgorKaskader True, but even then I think you'd be better off with two hard rollers, with one having a thin TPU tire for more traction and to soak up the loose tolerances. Or at least one soft wheel and one hard wheel to minimize the energy lost to soft, squishy rollers.
@Bizzybugproductions
@Bizzybugproductions 2 жыл бұрын
Listen, you don’t know a thing
@bpark10001
@bpark10001 2 жыл бұрын
What you have here is essentially 2 mecanum wheels engaging intermediate rollers which engage the floor. In my opinion, 2 side-by-side mecanum wheels directly engaging the floor would be better. The only thing you would have to assure is division of the load between the 2 wheels. That can be done with a short equalization lever.
@Acamperfull
@Acamperfull 2 жыл бұрын
Yes but then there would be an extra torque when the two side-by-side mecanum wheels are rotating in the opposite direction
@isaaczoesch158
@isaaczoesch158 2 жыл бұрын
yes, but then the sideways movement would be very reliant on floor traction due to the mencanum wheels. his design would be more relaible on a vareity of surfaces.
@Blayzeing
@Blayzeing 2 жыл бұрын
An interesting observation, though for self-balancing (his ultimate goal with this) co-axial dual-mecanum wheels are notoriously difficult to use. They also have the down-side of blocking rotation about the axis perpendicular to the line formed between the two wheels, meaning that it wouldn't be able to balance on uneven surfaces (or go up a hill sideways) nearly as well.
@randomblogger2835
@randomblogger2835 2 жыл бұрын
here's a crazy idea,. have two mecanum wheels, but put one inside the other!
@bpark10001
@bpark10001 2 жыл бұрын
@@isaaczoesch158 ANY balancing scheme with 1 or 2 wheels MUST have friction with the surface just to balance. That's why bikers suddenly fall when encountering icy or wet slick roads. The 2 wheels could be guaranteed equal force-bearing by using a lever equalization link (like used in steam locomotives). The largest objection to the 2 side-by-side scheme is the torque about the vertical axis generated when driving the wheels in opposite directions. This could be mitigated by using 3 wheels side-by-side, the outer 2 driven together, & the center one separately. (He might object to this as the vehicle is no longer technically "1 wheel". But the best way to do this is to have real legitimate gearing to drive the smaller wheels. This will be intricate with bevel gears, but doable with his extensive 3D printing equipment & experience if he makes the wheel larger. This would permit the small wheels to be football shaped, giving a true circular outside profile.
@Nightmare-fe9hr
@Nightmare-fe9hr 2 жыл бұрын
you could get more grip between the sub wheels of the omniwheel and the rollers on the side plates by making the subwheels with a 45 degree diamond pattern instead of straight ridges. This way the ridges of the rollers will match up and apply a pushing/pulling force instead of mostly friction
@justsomeguywithoutamustach7151
@justsomeguywithoutamustach7151 2 жыл бұрын
@Get on the cross and don’t look back Stop spamming
@liampowers8570
@liampowers8570 2 жыл бұрын
@@justsomeguywithoutamustach7151 the original comment may be deleted, but based on the name I have a pretty good idea of what was posted
@joshua43214
@joshua43214 2 жыл бұрын
I think you may have mis-interpreted part of the patent. Those "teeth" should be helical. All you are doing is reducing the contact area between the driven and drive wheels in your design. Either make them with matching helices, or make them smooth (smooth is probably better unless you understand gears and can machine them more accurately than a 3d print).
@hxhdfjifzirstc894
@hxhdfjifzirstc894 2 жыл бұрын
There's many things odd about this design.
@sharks3010
@sharks3010 2 жыл бұрын
Your 'prototypes' and 'test devices' are amazing accomplishments all on their own! Well done!
@CharlesVanNoland
@CharlesVanNoland 2 жыл бұрын
I don't like the patented idea - too much rubbing/friction. The OmBURo concept is much more realistic albeit with room for optimizations. Having the little wheels rolling obliquely against one-another sounds very inefficient.
@doopfdeckel
@doopfdeckel 2 жыл бұрын
...so does the flexible shaft and the 90° gears. would to good to be true if this is every day life some day.
@notahotshot
@notahotshot 2 жыл бұрын
@@doopfdeckel "would to good to be true if this is every day life some day" Lol wut?
@生マグロ-s8e
@生マグロ-s8e 2 жыл бұрын
I think multiple 90° helical gear connections and a large circumference long flexible shaft would produce more friction/be harder to drive. Especially if you have a larger weight on top like a human
@downey2294
@downey2294 2 жыл бұрын
@@生マグロ-s8e or your mom... hehe sorry i couldn't help myself
@xxportalxx.
@xxportalxx. 2 жыл бұрын
@@生マグロ-s8e they both use flex shafts in the original designs he showed.
@trombone_pasha
@trombone_pasha 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe those small driving wheels on sides can have some kind of spiral-shaped gear teeth so they would lock with the bigger wheels. Or it's named helix, not spiral. The point is that the teeth on the smallest wheels can be not just parallel to their axis but go under 45º angle around
@olgittj1507
@olgittj1507 2 жыл бұрын
One seemingly important difference between your omni-wheel and its inspirations is that the smaller wheels aren't interconnected. I think you are losing a bit of torque and efficiency potential by essentially driving only 1-2 smaller wheels at a time (the ones in contact with ground) rather than all of them.
@nekkowe
@nekkowe 2 жыл бұрын
After the ornithopter videos (no difference in AoA between up/downstroke) and that CMG project (no way to desaturate the gyros), it seems to be a bit of a common theme here that important details of the technology are routinely neglected. Amazing projects nonetheless, even if the results end up hampered by it
@olik136
@olik136 2 жыл бұрын
but they also seem to use a flexi shaft in both directions- I think they are only strong in one direction and you can damage them easily if you use in the other direction
@brendansimons6811
@brendansimons6811 2 жыл бұрын
Love it. Do you have any issues with the "strafe" speed being so much slower than the "roll" speed? Seems like it might cause a bit of a control problem
@CelestialProotDIY
@CelestialProotDIY 2 жыл бұрын
@C l a r a ♥️ Silence, thot bot. Men are talking about stuff that actually matters.
@Astronopolis
@Astronopolis 2 жыл бұрын
Probably just a case of using just some spare motors, he seems to have just been doing proof of concept here. A faster more powerful motor would do the trick, I think he’s still gotta work out the play in the rollers themselves to work out precision and accuracy with the movement before being able to balance I suspect
@HainjeDAF
@HainjeDAF 2 жыл бұрын
What if you use interlocking conical gears on the ends of the rim wheel axles. So you get a form of 'bent gear coupler'. These conical gears cab be made for other angles than just 90 degrees like in a differential.
@ncstudio333
@ncstudio333 2 жыл бұрын
You're seriously a genius man... I wish I had your level of consistent intellectual persistence
@jacobellinger8027
@jacobellinger8027 2 жыл бұрын
if you had a singular ball in the center with the rollers acting as stabilizers instead of the locomotion; could you then have an omni-wheel made from a ball?
@da.de.7915
@da.de.7915 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKq4oGd7lsyLq5I that would be this with a smaller ball
@johnpetters3328
@johnpetters3328 2 жыл бұрын
Problem with a ball is the dirt you pick Up from the ground getting stuck in the drive, if this wasnt the case Every car in the world would have had globular Tires by now
@jennalove6755
@jennalove6755 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnpetters3328 Brushes and maybe compressed air
@jpratt8676
@jpratt8676 2 жыл бұрын
​@@jennalove6755 Yeah, seems like it would be pretty simple to push air through from the top to flush out and even cool the wheel if need be.
@j0nny93rs
@j0nny93rs 2 жыл бұрын
think we need to show more appreciation to Honda who are just inventive geniuses.
@pirojfmifhghek566
@pirojfmifhghek566 2 жыл бұрын
Honda's R&D dept christmas parties must be fuckin' wild.
@ramonperezsanchez
@ramonperezsanchez 2 жыл бұрын
Love it, love it, love it... sometime you just stumble upon videos that ust gets all the gears in your head turning.... this is def one of them! Thank you so much for psting! Cheers from Dominican Republic.
@reinierdungelmann5311
@reinierdungelmann5311 2 жыл бұрын
This guy has more sponsors than the super bowl.
@Hconinja
@Hconinja 2 жыл бұрын
can i just say, has antone noticed that this guy has the most ad sponsors than any video that anyone has watched, well for me that is. anyone agree?
@BazilRat
@BazilRat 2 жыл бұрын
So, if the two motors engage at the same direction but different speed, does it move diagonally?
@mars5train601
@mars5train601 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@TheClumsyFairy
@TheClumsyFairy 2 жыл бұрын
It never ceases to amaze me how many sponsors you can get in a video .
@ErosNicolau
@ErosNicolau 2 жыл бұрын
Idea: mount the two driving wheels at a slight angle relative to the vertical central plane - this way you only get traction - and, more importantly, friction - where you need it: at the bottom
@iAmTheSquidThing
@iAmTheSquidThing 2 жыл бұрын
It strikes me that the whole mechanism could be simpler if you were only concerned about driving the bottom 3 or 4 rollers.
@ErosNicolau
@ErosNicolau 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, the only reason to drive all the wheels is simplicity of design
@huzeff
@huzeff 2 жыл бұрын
Was about to comment on that as well! But slanted wheels would cause problems with contact patch between the main and driving wheels. The same goes for smaller and eccentrically mounted (towards the bottom) side wheels. Maybe some clever geometry could prevent this?
@ErosNicolau
@ErosNicolau 2 жыл бұрын
@@huzeff I'm sure the geometry would have to adapt - but that's not an issue for James
@andymouse
@andymouse 2 жыл бұрын
This is so cool, that guy just floating about on a chair in all directions is awesome I can't wait to see the next iteration...cheers.
@GerhardAEUhlhorn
@GerhardAEUhlhorn 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! 🙂 You should make the teeth of the TPU wheels disgonal so that they mesh like a gear. And you should perhaps make the large rollers more like a barrel, i.e. make the outer diameters somewhat smaller than the diameter in the middle.
@bryantv2410
@bryantv2410 2 жыл бұрын
I just found this channel so I don't know anything about past projects but at 1:07 it's mentioned that it turns opposite way it leans. Theirs a video called "Most people don't know how bikes work" by Veritasium It mentions this weird effect is also on bikes. With a slow mo from the front. It could be useful to know these types of things as well as maybe getting slow mo of a unicycle turning.
@GGGG_3333
@GGGG_3333 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant concept, great execution as usual 👍
@chip1pan
@chip1pan 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing how old the gyroscope is and never let us down and used so proficiently today in many different fields
@surfcello
@surfcello 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if you could print a helical tooth pattern on the outer rollers that the smaller drive rollers can bite into? I assume it would have to be two counter-twisting helices, one for each side of rollers, so effectively the outer rollers would just be knobby.
@Theimtheimtheim
@Theimtheimtheim 2 жыл бұрын
This will probably not work because the outer wheels are flat/cylindrical and not round/parts of a torus as shown in the patent. But its worth a try, i guess 🤔
@claws61821
@claws61821 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking this as well but having trouble thinking of a profile that would allow engagement with both sets of smaller rollers as well as the ground... Somehow your comment reminded me of a video I saw recently (past three months) with some very interesting knurled or cross-hatched gear profiles that might work.
@JustLuckyYT
@JustLuckyYT 2 жыл бұрын
* Skips to 8:09 * My Smooth Brain: Haha Cokie Cola Lids
@fernandop1
@fernandop1 2 жыл бұрын
*While I do like the experiments, I would also like to know what could be useful for?* Because to be honest, sometimes I have no clue of any practical applications In this case, I do know Omni-Wheel applications, but for 1 wheel? Not really.
@AnnoDominiAD
@AnnoDominiAD 2 жыл бұрын
2 omni wheels = omni directional bike 4 omni wheels = omni directional cars etc
@hxhdfjifzirstc894
@hxhdfjifzirstc894 2 жыл бұрын
That's what I was wondering, the whole way through. I couldn't think of anything to do with it.
@hxhdfjifzirstc894
@hxhdfjifzirstc894 2 жыл бұрын
@@AnnoDominiAD But what's the point of an omni directional car or bike? And if it's so great, why choose the most complicated way to do it? What are we even talking about, here?
@komandoklucha
@komandoklucha 2 жыл бұрын
@@AnnoDominiAD its too complicadted to be durable and cheap enough and on top of that you have grip problems due to small wheels etc. there are way simpler designs
@ChubiChan
@ChubiChan 2 жыл бұрын
Less Parts, less complexity, Add it to existing things. Automated shopping cart grabber. Can't get big trains of carts, but a few of them could navigate a car park and use a raising and lowering "arm" to grab carts and move them back into the store. Obviously would need sensors and cameras to avoid cars and people. Patient Transport in Hospitals. Instead of needing an orderly to push a patient around, a "come along" could be used by nurses and doctors to push a patient behind/ahead of them, or could be used to move the mobility challenged around larger facilities. Cheaper to use a base "platform" that is a regular wheelchair, then just have a few bots to do the movement when the patient/practitioner cannot Assisted Drive in various carts. Could counteract turbulence in Airplane carts with a single wheel (saving weight in the process). Could be retrofitted to attach to medical carts and crash cash to aid in reducing energy needed to push and move them, and allow the carts to be physically heavier without affecting the person who needs to push it. Warehouse carts/shelves could have the same idea where one wheel is all thats needed to assist the person moving them aside to get to other items. Mobility scooters. 3 wheel trike style mobility scooters require the operator to lean forward and twist to turn, which is not possible for all users. Joystick controls are easier, but more expensive, requiring 2 motor driven wheels, and they drive different from a typical system. This could combine the driving pattern and simplicity of 3 wheel, with the control scheme and ease of use of joystick drive. While yes, 2 wheels, or more wheels, can be used in all above applications, if this design could use a singular drive motor that's clutched, it can reduce electrical needs and lead to better battery life on all of these items. As well, the space savings can allow this design to be used in weight and space critical operations like on boats, planes, small warehouses, and trains. The cost savings, when a design is industrialized and produced in mass enough, of having 1 omni-wheel versus 2 or 4 could also prove to be superior for multi-unit applications such as the cart grabber or shelf mover in a warehouse. The 5th wheel applications are very diverse for retrofitting, and worth exploring by themselves.
@gamersgambit7517
@gamersgambit7517 2 жыл бұрын
I've gotta show this to my FTC team! They're gonna love this, thanks for the amazing video
@TheAstronomyDude
@TheAstronomyDude 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if there is a special gear tooth geometry that would increase the contact between the red rollers.
@Movies.HDR.4K
@Movies.HDR.4K 2 жыл бұрын
Really nice concept.wish to see how BMW AVTR wheels works..james should make one....
@victorro8760
@victorro8760 2 жыл бұрын
Is there a way to have a motor fixed to the body that drives only the current bottom wheel? that way there is much less friction and you are not wasting power turning all those other wheels that are not touching the ground. Edit: You would also be able to turn at the same time as you are going forward. It doesn't look to me like the current build does that. Edit 2: Maybe the 3 current bottom wheels so you can turn when going up hill or on uneven terrain.
@macrumpton
@macrumpton 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing. Why drive all the other rollers when the 3 on the bottom are doing all the work. You could just have a friction drive on the bottom 3 rollers.
@jdmeesey
@jdmeesey 2 жыл бұрын
Use pulleys on the secondary gears to drive the axles of small treads for better ground contact and power delivery, since you could make a high precision set of gears to drive the whole mechanism and keep it protected within the assembly. A tire or pair of tires might work well too…
@nkronert
@nkronert 2 жыл бұрын
I'm always amazed seeing the solutions that the human brain can come up with. I'm also impressed that people are capable of turning such ideas into actual 3D models so they can be manufactured. I am a bit worried about wear and tear on this particular omni wheel.
@Paul-rs4gd
@Paul-rs4gd 2 жыл бұрын
Just wait until you see the solutions that non-human brains come up with....
@nkronert
@nkronert 2 жыл бұрын
@@Paul-rs4gd an air hockey table? 😉
@Agnemons
@Agnemons 2 жыл бұрын
One advantage with the Honda patent version is that all the small wheels are contributing to the rotation force applied the two or three wheels actually supporting the unit. One possible way to make "rope" axle would be to use multiple layers of carbon fibre or kevlar with each layer twisted in opposite directions. You would, of course, have to bind the rope axle . Could possibly use resin.
@theofficialczex1708
@theofficialczex1708 2 жыл бұрын
You always have great socks, James. Completely off-topic, but I just had to point it out.
@Chris_the_Muso
@Chris_the_Muso 2 жыл бұрын
For in-line two wheel vehicles you actually do have to turn left before you can turn right. This is so counter intuitive most people will fail to grasp it until presented with a physical experiment. For an omniwheel bike this would require you to slip to the left before executing the right turn. You would then have to reverse the procedure to come out of the turn. The required angle of slip can be calculated by balancing the centripetal force for a given radius of turn with the downward force of gravity such that the resulting vector is through the centre of mass to the wheels.
@stevenpaul6216
@stevenpaul6216 2 жыл бұрын
I'm just a simple guy, I discover a channel that blows my mind in the first 10 seconds of the first video and I like and subscribe immediately
@ColdWindPhoenix84
@ColdWindPhoenix84 2 жыл бұрын
I bet if you used a narrow hub for the drive rollers with a thick you tread you will get the best of both worlds. Flex of the wheel and less play against the axle. Freaking amazing build. I look forward to seeing more.
@dunk92
@dunk92 2 жыл бұрын
the problem this will never work in real cars, because it has to many parts, and it would be to expensive and difficult to replace every part, what makes it not practical. But it is a nice concept.
@dadsfriendlyrobotcompany
@dadsfriendlyrobotcompany 2 жыл бұрын
James, for a flexible shaft, you can use a spring, like what you find in a drain snake. They are super tough and can take a lot of torsional load while bent in a radius.
@welshpete12
@welshpete12 2 жыл бұрын
A very clear explanation of a very ingenious mechanism !
@shawngrabowski988
@shawngrabowski988 2 жыл бұрын
So darn cool. AWESOME PRACTICAL Designs and experimentation
@robbiebecker8672
@robbiebecker8672 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine understanding this and inventing it
@LouisFox89
@LouisFox89 2 жыл бұрын
This is such high quality stuff!
@derSeega
@derSeega 2 жыл бұрын
How many sponsors can you have per video? James: "Yes"
@IsaacKuo
@IsaacKuo 2 жыл бұрын
The complexity is just crazy. To me it feels like a lot of excess mass and bulk when only the tiny wheels at the bottom are actually utilized at any given time. If I were trying to make a single wheel balancing robot, I'd go with a tilted wok shaped wheel. One motor drives the slightly bent axle, while the other motor drives the wheel. The key is to have a small amount of bend, so it's possible to quickly switch direction. It's possible for it to be passively stable, actually, but with a small hemisphere or ball shape it would require active stability.
@hxhdfjifzirstc894
@hxhdfjifzirstc894 2 жыл бұрын
You seem to know what you're talking about. What is the point of all this? What is the advantage of balancing a robot on a single wheel? Isn't four simple wheels far more cost effective and practical than some Rube Goldberg single wheel contraption? I just don't get the point.
@IsaacKuo
@IsaacKuo 2 жыл бұрын
@@hxhdfjifzirstc894 It's just fun to try and engineer. There isn't really a practical point.
@LUISDIAZ7777
@LUISDIAZ7777 2 жыл бұрын
AMIGO , ERES EL MEJOR, TU CANAL ES UNICO,SALUDOS DESDE CALI,COLOMBIA....GRACIAS!!!
@AndiClasht
@AndiClasht 2 жыл бұрын
Great work, keep it up 😉👍
@robinholmes785
@robinholmes785 2 жыл бұрын
Three suggestions. 1) Run the side driver wheel plates on lower centers so only the driven wheels that are in contact with the ground are controlled. This should considerably reduce friction. 2) Barel the outer driven wheels to conform to the other diameter for a smooth ride and concave the driver wheels to mesh. 3) The" teeth" on the driver and driven wheels should be helical.
@techguy6565
@techguy6565 2 жыл бұрын
I think using worm gear can directly change the spinning direction from the large wheel to the small wheel. Moreover, springs or some elastic plastic can detach the gear of small wheel from the large wheel. When the small wheel press against the ground, the gear bind together again. This may reduce the energy loss due to the friction when moving the useless small wheel
@RND_ADV_X
@RND_ADV_X 2 жыл бұрын
That "tilting changing the way the wheel steers" is exactly why I decided to dismantle my one wheeled Vespa. I saw the 1000w one that Bel Y Bel made a couple years ago, and decided to try making one with a much stronger 3000w motor, and it was just too hard to control at that speed. You could definitely upscale this Omni wheel to a serious vehicle! I think would only cost about 2000£. Just mount a 42v 1000-2000w brushless ebike motor on each side.
@mr.j8032
@mr.j8032 2 жыл бұрын
Wow this is an awesome project. Very detailed and time consuming but an amazing project. Cannot imagine how long the prints took where I can only stand to print at max 4 hours at a time lol
@therealzilch
@therealzilch 2 жыл бұрын
The coolness factor here broke my meter. Subscribed.
@lerk.
@lerk. 2 жыл бұрын
That unexpected twisting was covered in that veritasium video with the bike that can (not/only) steer right.
@KOZMOuvBORG
@KOZMOuvBORG 2 жыл бұрын
1:12 "steer in the opposite way it was leaning" - to start a turn on a bicycle, you need to give a brief push to the other handlebar.
@randysonnicksen9475
@randysonnicksen9475 2 жыл бұрын
You could also tilt the axis of the driving hubs so that the hub wheels only contact the main wheels at the bottom, since that's the only place it matters. This would likely significantly reduce the friction losses in the system.
@ManuelBTC21
@ManuelBTC21 2 жыл бұрын
Fabulous work, congratulations. I have a feeling I'm looking at a summary of years of work. It's a wonderful new world we live in with 3D printers, cheap electronics and control systems.
@asleeperj
@asleeperj 2 жыл бұрын
1:09 It's not an unexpected twist. Look into how motorcycles steer. The wheel falls to the outside of the direction turned. The same thing happens in a car, except you have another set of wheels to catch the fall. This is why something hanging from a rear view mirror goes to the outside of a turn.
@nato88888
@nato88888 2 жыл бұрын
I cannot believe I live in a time where this kind of bizarrely niche and amazing information is freely available to anyone..... There is hope for humanity.
@anonymousprime1738
@anonymousprime1738 2 жыл бұрын
Tbh it’s channels like yours that keep my inspiration going to get a degree in mechanical engineering
@rectorsquid
@rectorsquid 2 жыл бұрын
I was watching and thinking "what about a reaction wheel" and then you got to that. These are very clever and cool machines you built!
@sergeypalkin
@sergeypalkin 2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff and description 👍
@spartanboxing1
@spartanboxing1 2 жыл бұрын
glad you took the advice and did it!
@warrior4christ777
@warrior4christ777 2 жыл бұрын
Very creative.i really enjoyed the learning /development of the idea into the actual prototype. Would love to have a 3d printer .it just takes so much time.
@LibLibertyLibertarian
@LibLibertyLibertarian 2 жыл бұрын
There's a simpler way to do that. You have a large wheel that's open on the inside as to house a L-R driving mechanism. The hub would be biased to the opposite side (like a car wheel) or use a hub less wheel with the rollers around it. The bottom where ground contact is made sits just 1 or 2 omni wheels that drives only the ground contact rollers left or right. *The reason it's an omni wheel is so the forward/reverse rotation of the large wheel doesn't cause friction for the smaller wheel which drives the left/right motion. *You may want 2 so that thetrnsition between rollers is seamless.
@marklatham5692
@marklatham5692 2 жыл бұрын
If the center wheel and the two outer wheels had different centers of rotation then you could adjust it such that only the bottom would be "active" ... thus reducing friction. Great job at conceptualizing this.
@__Bondrewd__
@__Bondrewd__ Жыл бұрын
The terrifying speed of digrodation. Two hundred years ago , two-wheeled cars were made, railway cars on one rail. Not on the rail that occupies 2.3 of the width of the train itself, but a simple rail. And all this on a gyroscope. But then everyone forgot about it, and the technology went into stabilizers for ship guns.
@anderstroberg3704
@anderstroberg3704 2 жыл бұрын
If you are confused by the steering in the wrong direction when tilted, look up motorcycle countersteering. It's the same effect, and there are huge amounts of info on it. Basically, when riding at speed, you countersteer, in other words, you turn the handlebars left to go right.
@danmortenson5274
@danmortenson5274 2 жыл бұрын
For those thinking this is anti-intuitive, simply visualize that when you TURN the front wheel on a moving motorcycle (when you put sideways pressure on the handlebars), you are thereby REMOVING the front wheel from the two-wheel system that's keeping the bike straight, leading it to lean in the opposite direction. Steering is very responsive when approached from this perspective. You can change lanes in a trice.
@timplett1
@timplett1 2 жыл бұрын
What if you made the perimeter wheels spur gears (probably best with truncated teeth) and engaged them with a large wheel, basically a very thin slice of a large diameter worm wheel. Driving the whole assembly would move back and forth, and driving the worm gear backwards or forwards would rotate the rollers, moving side to side. Obviously not great for a dirty environment, but could be an interesting concept to play with.
@ThePalrex
@ThePalrex 2 жыл бұрын
2:14 I'M FUCKING INVINCIBLE
@arkano01
@arkano01 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, seriously. How come you are not working for space X, tesla, boston dynamics or related. This is the kind of smart people who has to drive our future!! Good work man!!
@aldotrillo5156
@aldotrillo5156 2 жыл бұрын
I like the idea, probably you could make it lighter by only keeping traction in the lowest part of the wheel, as the rest of the wheel doesn't really work
@cobrasvt347
@cobrasvt347 2 жыл бұрын
As to why when riding a bike you must change the center of gravity by first turning left to go right. This your single wheel robot always wants to go in the opposite direction.
@tonyr4873
@tonyr4873 2 жыл бұрын
I ordered the MEL Science kit from the advert. They sent a turd in a jar and a magnifying glass, had hours of fun with it. Yay MEL Science!
@piconano
@piconano 2 жыл бұрын
That's so clever! Excellent video. Hope to see more of this later.
@verdatum
@verdatum 2 жыл бұрын
I'm planning on using a number of these techniques on an upcoming project, to make a replica of the killer tire from the film Rubber. But all the parts have to basically float inside the walls of the tire so that the center remains completely empty. I haven't completely worked out if I want it to be able to lean left and right by shifting gyros or if I can turn the battery box into a servo actuated counterweight in the top and have that be sufficient.
@sinanx
@sinanx 11 ай бұрын
Ideally you wouldnt need any rotating small wheel apart from the one that touches the ground. So I am thinking either dont drive any wheel but the bottom one at a time or maybe a fixed small wheel that always stays on the contact area and comes into effect by a levering mechanism or similar when there is sideways motion needed?
@zakharovmedia
@zakharovmedia 2 жыл бұрын
This is genuinely impressive!
@OpeyCorp
@OpeyCorp 2 жыл бұрын
I seen a video on youtube bout a bolt with two way threads.. That is to say threads, which would allow you to turn a nut clockwise or counter clockwise and still tighten it or loosen it. instead of looking more like a screw. if you used this same idea on you main drive wheels, you coold put bi-directional "teeth/threads" into the main wheels that would fit the rollers on each side better and maximize contact and grip between the rollers and the main hub.
@Lohoydo
@Lohoydo 2 жыл бұрын
Could you make the small wheels bevel gears, and the larger wheels cross-threading bevel gears (similar to a bolt that can take both left and right hand threaded nuts) to reduce slippage? The math would be a pain though
@yoshimikoyama2922
@yoshimikoyama2922 2 жыл бұрын
I have seen a RC toy called Air Hogs Upriser that has driven omniwheel and able to self balance on single wheel. Its internal mechanism is more similar to traditional differential drive gears. Not sure whether it is still suitable for more heavy-duty robots.
@MostlyPennyCat
@MostlyPennyCat 2 жыл бұрын
I invented something similar back in the 90s. It's purpose was to create a robot for robot wars that addressed the number one problem, the control and feedback system. I called it Drive By Wire and you can see something similar in your one wheel robot and stabilised gun mounts in Main Battle Tanks. Yours looks better though, can I use it?
@NATHANJK3
@NATHANJK3 2 жыл бұрын
Bro your work is amazing… oh god. Great equipment and program. thanks to share.
@1.618_Murphy
@1.618_Murphy 2 жыл бұрын
1:45 You've created *BB-8* 🤩🤩👍👍
@Naarii14
@Naarii14 2 жыл бұрын
I have absolutely no idea what is going on for 90% of the vid but i am entertained.
@AbiNubli
@AbiNubli 2 жыл бұрын
I've rode U3-X. It's looks magical but feels surprisingly natural to use. Honda totally should mass market it
@cael87
@cael87 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that the lines don't match up would mean they are actively reducing friction in that configuration - try using a surface of many consistently spaced bumps.
@LiterallyMeRyanGosling-0
@LiterallyMeRyanGosling-0 2 жыл бұрын
This guy is like MumboJumbo combined with Maker’s Muse.
@yashroghelia2237
@yashroghelia2237 5 ай бұрын
Hello Sir. What is the wheel you used for demonstration at 1:58 . Also can you please provide a link ?
@skaggreen4212
@skaggreen4212 2 жыл бұрын
Very well presented, good work!!
@warrior4christ777
@warrior4christ777 2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure the friction, if used day in and day out would rake havoc on the gears. I enjoy they concept development of the project
@CharlesVanNoland
@CharlesVanNoland 2 жыл бұрын
What about something that functions more like a unicycle? Have a single drive wheel and allow it to pivot/turn rapidly to pursue a target direction toward underneath the agent's mass. Yes, the mass would rotate in the opposite direction a bit but you could also separate the 'head' from the 'body' and let the body/wheel act on eachother while the head just sorta does its own thing for navigating with sensors/cameras. To roll in a direction it would effectively start rolling the opposite direction to cause itself to begin falling in the direction it wishes to go and then quickly accelerate in that direction to hold itself up. I think that would be a really fun and rewarding challenge for a single-wheeled bot but I'm more of a math/algorithms nerd than an electrical engineering one, and coding up maths is my forte.
@TheSuthern101
@TheSuthern101 2 жыл бұрын
I think that would be fun to see, especially considering the more or less torque needed to turn, based on load weight and the surface on which the when is operating. Imagine a 12" wheel trying to quickly turn left/right 45 degrees in grass, or a rubber when with a lot of weight doing it on asphalt.
@rajchoudhary4349
@rajchoudhary4349 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing engineering minds..!! How on earth this is even balancing.. !!
@MarinusMakesStuff
@MarinusMakesStuff 2 жыл бұрын
I think a big solution would be to connect all the shafts of each big grippy gear on the center hub, together with a flexible shaft like in the other design. This way, when two gears do not interface properly, this effect is mitigated by all the other gears that do make full contact. This of course also asks for bearings next to each gear in the central hub, so this might become a heavy wheel by itself. But I think it's worth upscaling it a bit and going all the way.
@johnpetters3328
@johnpetters3328 2 жыл бұрын
This is really cool but it seems to me it would easily break if you used it daily. IF there was a Hole through the middle of the Tire, Maybe you could cover the sideway rollers with a flexibel donut shaped outer layer, this way protecting it from damage and weather. Means you need to put the drive torus in the center of the wheel and find a way to transfer movement without to much friction on the protective layer so the idea isn't without cons im afraid. You are doing brilliant work, Keep it Up!😀
@peta1001
@peta1001 Жыл бұрын
Sounds very good for a final engineering exam. The number of wheels or legs, for the same matter, was experimented with for millenniums. The mother nature decided it was 4. What we can contribute to it is not to invent an acrobatic stick, but to eliminate mechanical (wearing off) parts as many as possible. That is what will do in space exploring or elsewhere. The nature solved many problems using the available ways and tools. There is still plenty to learn from it.
@gordonpromish9218
@gordonpromish9218 2 жыл бұрын
I suspect it would be a good idea to redesign this so that the contact patch is not the same surface as the drive gearing.
@JavierGuerra_g
@JavierGuerra_g 2 жыл бұрын
you could drive only the rollers that touch the ground. just the 2 or 3 that are at the lowest point at any moment
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