Why This Soft Reboot Failed | Doctor Who 2024 Season 1 Review / Reaction

[@burgunbeerd]

Was the Soft Reboot a GOOD or BAD idea? And don't forget to subscribe!

[@Kelvryn]

No idea what the hell your talking about. This season was Awesome!...lol

[@wantedmost123]

Is that what we're calling it, "Went through therapy" nope it's just gone woke and unfortunately the fans of old do not want this shoved in their faces.

[@nicholasdickens2801]

Bad.

[@purefoldnz3070]

it wasnt really a soft reboot at all, especially if you bringing back such a classic villain as Sutekh or Mel! Really loved the series except for the weird snot monster which was dumb as all hell.

[@RaikenXion]

I really think alot of this underneath has to do with rtd himself and him losing his partner. Because some years before, his writing wasn't like this, but now all of a sudden, it's like he's just became, not Bitter but, like he's just unashamedly, unapologetically just writing purely himself as a Gay man into his work now, fully, not holding back at all. Also the whole thing with Ncuti's Dr, feeling alone etc, I think is also Davis, basically putting it all out there regards how he feels personally. Now the problem isn't that he is a Gay man, the problem becomes this "silly tonal" direction of the show you mentioned, which is something I've actually noticed so many other Dr. Who fans out there have also brought up in their own reviews and overall analysis of the new series. I'm thinking this is just Davis letting it all out as kind of therapy in his writing now. What this has done is overall made it now less actual "Doctor Who" and instead it's just become something else entirely, to where it's simply not recognizable anymore. I'm thinking Disney's aquisition of the IP now has also had alot to do with things, it's fairly evident the woke direction Disney has been going in recent years. I guess you may not like the use of that word here but it's simply how most people out there feel. And I'd speculate Disney also pandered to Davis, and encouraged him to kind of really let his hair down with Dr. Who now, which is what rtd has done. Admit it, this is just "Doctor Who" in only name now.

[@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec]

At least Clara whole mystery got a decent pay off: She was a nobody who chooses the adventure to save the doctor

[@KadeSmash]

We haven't had any real chances to have pay offs yet, we've had one series with a cliff hanger ending, or did you not watch?

[@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec]

@ Did you not watch season 7b? When Clara jumped into the Doctor’s time stream to rescue the doctor from the great intelligence?

[@KadeSmash]

@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec oh my dear friend, I've watched so much doctor who, and there's three unresolved major events in the show. Clara, the cracks in time, and the Silence. Sure they say the cracks came from the doctor's exploding tardis but did you ever stop to ask why it happened? Clara is still out there with Me as far as we all know and so is madam kavarian

[@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec]

@ The doctor was literally dying and the Tardis was dying itself. Turning the console into a time stream.

[@KadeSmash]

@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec i also know that we've received the same warning in at least 2 series now. Time said, "Your time is coming to an end. No life, no regeneration." Mrs Flood last series said, "I'm sorry to say his story ends in absolute terror". The doctor may very well die in the next few series because dalek caan had a similar prophecy when he was thrown out of the time War and saw all of time

[@SocksFCGameArchives]

I think bigeneration is the worst concept since The Timeless Child. I could sort of excuse the similar concept of Meta Crisis because that was at least built towards with the hand in the jar. But to me it feels like a cop out if the Gatwa episodes fail, RTD can just bring Tennant back to desperately save the ratings although the damage has already been done. So we've got two Tennants running about the universe now as well?

[@BornIn68]

RTD wants inclusivity, maybe he should try including coherent story lines for a start

[@me-li8kd]

Things were a lot better when things were exclusive not inclusive.

[@jacobyoung2045]

So true

[@chadhoy7489]

Hes an asshole

[@nicklennox]

This is more interesting than the show

[@sg-zd8eb]

Anything is.

[@jacobyoung2045]

@@sg-zd8eb 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@nicholasdickens2801]

Not to be cruel that’s a low bar to clear. 😂

[@juliandarch9278]

Limbo more like, low isn't low enough

[@nurimep]

Naw I quit after 3 seconds if these guys.

[@guksack]

0:40 - Same situation with RTD and Lucas for sure. A New Hope/Doctor Who Eccleston era are both absolutely the products of trying really hard with their one shot to make everything work. Later we just get "I'm in charge now and nobody is going to shoot me down so I'm just going to do whatever and nobody can stop me". He's not maxed out as a writer (It's a Sin was fantastic) but he's maxed out with his own DW universe here I think.

[@tomnorton4277]

Not the same at all. George Lucas never lost his touch. The idiots who claim he did never understood Star Wars in the first place. Furthermore, people constantly questioned his ideas during the Prequels, to the point where he gave some of those ideas to Steven Spielberg by the time he got to Revenge of the Sith just because he was so exhausted by having all of his decisions challenged. Russell T Davies on the other hand is the Doctor Who equivalent of the morons who think they know Star Wars better than its creator does. He got lucky the first time because people like Steven Moffat rescued him from his own retardation but Davies actually is a delusional "my way or the highway" narcissist.

[@TONEDEAFSOUND]

he should have went as dark as physically possible if he really wanted to grab a younger audience younger audiences love creepy things right now but unfortunately rtd gave us confusing theater kid trying too hard :/ still can’t believe he wrote torchwood wishing we would have seen things get very dark because to me that’s when dr who shines. the new season had no weight

[@StarlingInSpace]

The doctor did nothing but cry, it’s become a parody of itself

[@me-li8kd]

If they HAD to go gay...why couldn't they have gone with someone less foppish? They picked the worst stereotype of a gay man to presumably...combat the stereotype of gay men.🥴

[@adamfreddo5703]

Its extraordinary how perfect of an introduction 2005 was. Like so many KZbinrs who are experiencing from the 2005 series you can see how much it can still grab people.

[@mayotango1317]

I find 2005 chessy and a copy of Buffy.

[@alexmiyamoto4832]

@@mayotango1317 yeah I can't go back to 2005, it's oddly easier to go back to the 1989 series than 2005. Gladly come back to 2010 though

[@user-fz1ou5bm9f]

I only got into Doctor Who about a year ago. I picked up the general plot points and iconic items from the pre-2005 restart, but have an actually sat down and watched those original episodes. Not quite sure how Buffy, which is more fantasy, relates to Doctor Who, which is definitely sci-fi. I guess technically you can draw similarities between anything. Even apples and oranges… Technically, they’re both fruit. Anyway, the night doctor threw to the 12th doctor had me captivated. There were some less than awesome episodes, but overall it grabbed me. The introduction of Jody Whitaker, as the doctor caused me to lose all interest, despite me trying to hold on. David Tennant returning was what drew me back in, hoping for some of that NeWho magic (which the doctor would eventually figure out was not magic and fairies after all, and had a satisfyingly sci-fi answer.). Ncuti's Doctor shouldn’t be considered a reboot, soft or otherwise. His character doesn’t seem to fit with the previous doctors and their growth. It would make more sense if he was from a “Pete’s world”, alternate universe, and temporarily ended up stuck and not even realizing he was in a different universe entirely. Having an alternate doctor “jump the void”, feels more realistic than the current show, which feels like it is bordering on “jumping the shark”. If Disney wants to keep Ncuti's doctor around, then do it as a spin off series… After he gets returned to his original universe. “There’s no place like home, there’s no place like home, there’s no place like home.“. Heck I might even give a thumbs up if they revealed that the doctor had been frozen and carbonate in the middle of his regeneration from his 12th self. That Jody Whitaker‘s doctor was actually the first two slip through the dimensional crack. Period her subsequent regeneration freeze the actual doctor, Han Solo style. Proof we get David Tennant, and Ncuti’s doctor finally gets to go back to his own universe. David Tennant, Doctor putters around the universe once more, and we get a nice set up for when he regenerates.

[@mayotango1317]

@@user-fz1ou5bm9f Tennant never felt like the Doctor to me, too emotional and too romantic and less Doctorish. There is something disturbing about his obsession with Rose Tyler (RTD's Buffy) who aged badly. RTD copy the style of story arcs and big bad of Buffy, even the same humor and family drama. Ncuti Gatwa is a Doctor who finally got therapy and washed his hands of his past traumas. Finally. He feel more the Doctor that the human Tennant. And we already saw the Doctor face the Satan in a black hole, and the Seventh Doctor has already faced other gods. There are fairies in Torchwood, and the Eighth Doctor had an intimate relationship with Fritz Kreiner. So don't complain. Doctor Who is a show about everything, no only sci-fi. Even Tennant say "magic door" o "witchcraft" in Series 2 and 3.

[@user-fz1ou5bm9f]

@@mayotango1317 Considering we’re discussing a fictional, alien character… I can’t say for sure how well one would take to therapy. Going from a human perspective? Going to therapy and washing your hands does not eliminate the effects of past traumas. It helps you cope for sure. You learn ways to de-escalate when triggered. If The 15th doctor has managed to wash his hands of his past traumas, I’m gonna have to caulk it up to fictional, telepathic Time Lord abilities. Lucky 15th doctor. That his therapy took that long to even start… I’ll use the word odd, considering his 11th self pretty much found out that he wasn’t responsible for duo genocide. Also, if we’re going to pick at obsessive relationships, involving the doctor, One name pops into mine before Rose… Clara anyone? Billions of years of torture, whether he can remember or not depends on which script writer you ask. He gets out of the time dial and literally plucks her from moments before her death and doesn’t care about the consequences. David Tennant is often called the most “human“ doctor. If he’s as obsessive as you believe he is of rose, does it not make sense that when he regenerated from 9 to 10 that might end up shaping his newly regenerated self? Anyway, this conversation is pretty much gotten ridiculous. Every fan of Doctor Who has their own opinion on every little thing. That’s perfectly fine and absolutely normal. In the end, this isn’t about what makes a best “doctor“. It’s about recent Who. Obviously to drum up so much debate means that something has happened. You say for better, others say for worse. original Fan, NeWho fans, present show fans, and future show fans… It’ll be interesting to see who among them sticks with the series. Also, there will always be similarities between one show and another. Overlap happens. How much people see an overlap depends on the individual person’s perspective. After all I could’ve sworn I heard someone say that UNIT moved into the Avengers Tower… Silly me, that’s probably just someone’s opinion and perhaps a case of perceived overlap. Anyway, too much time wasted on a fictional topic and the back-and-forth of two people who will most likely never see each other’s faces in real life. Can’t even have debates in person anymore. Anyway, I’m now going to go and continue to learn about the atrocities that happened in Fiji under British rule. That’s where therapy, really would have been needed and is still needed. Unlike Doctor Who, generational trauma isn’t fictional. ‘Fun’ fact… The 10th doctor and Rose meet a “werewolf” and the Queen during what some might call the height of the plantation horrors in Fiji. Do you think the show would’ve had a less Buffy vibe if Rose had asked her about ‘that’, instead of trying to get her to say “we are not amused“? Despite our back-and-forth and personal opinions. I do, truly, wish for you to have a pleasant day. Best wishes.

[@captainmanic]

How do you cosplay a character that changes clothes every episode?

[@MaccamatBux]

Wear the most iconic costumes like his Dot and Bubble outfit or Christmas Special outfit.

[@tussk.]

@@MaccamatBux I dont think iconic means what you think it means.

[@TheNthDr]

He's had more costumes than pertwee did , but then pertwee's were very stylish

[@MaccamatBux]

@@tussk. relating to or of the nature of an icon; regarded as a representative symbol or as worthy of veneration. Seems like I do to me.

[@MaccamatBux]

@@jonylawson73 cool beans mate

[@verngriffiths5933]

Loads of money, but so bland and unoriginal. UNIT in Avengers Tower (the similarity in design is bizarre and if Disney weren't involved, probably actionable) and then a big part of the finale is characters being dusted... Did no-one in production raise their hand and say "Um, hey Russell, did you see Infinity War, at all?"

[@lowkeyz99]

He did saw it. Thats why he copied the formula

[@friendlyotaku9525]

Yeah writers get inspired by other media, that's nothing new.

[@verngriffiths5933]

@@friendlyotaku9525 it's not inspirational when what it engenders is a feeling of 'I've seen all this before' - it's the difference between an homage and a ripoff.

[@friendlyotaku9525]

@@verngriffiths5933 It's a homage, it's not that serious. RTD is a fan of the likes of Star Trek and the MCU.

[@vb2806]

​@@friendlyotaku9525keep on defending the horrible show

[@NoFormalTraining]

I'm thinking the Sutekh element might not have been needed in this season, maybe left as a hint of things to come in season 2 (not that we really got much hints about him specifically in the first place) and have season 1 deal with the Doctor and Ruby building up their relationship and figuring out the mystery behind her abandonment at the church. I think the biggest problem was the revelations about Rubys mum that we got in the last two episodes, just ignored or re-wrote everything we'd already found out about her before hand. It's kinda like trying to solve a murder mystery by playing along with the clues the writer gives you, only in the last five minutes the killer is revealed as a new character no one ever even heard of before! I'll give RTD this, he's learned the art of manipulating social media to stir up interest well, but I wonder if he's spent more time doing that and less time revising his scripts and asking if they make sense. I think he needs a good script editor to review them for him and take on board their notes.

[@a.i.1905]

In a weird way, I’m pleased to hear some others talk about how Ncuti’s doctor fell a bit flat. This is what I thought too - no real ‘this is the doctor’ moment, no real presence, etc. Ruby became my favourite part of the season after 73 yards, which I thought was a masterpiece but all of the Ruby reveal was such a let down it took away the one thing I liked about this series so now I look back on it shaking my head and probably won’t bother watching series two (especially as you say it’s already being filmed and they’ve had no chance to get feedback!)

[@tomnorton4277]

73 yards isn't even a well written episode. There's no such thing as a well written script in this season - even Steven Moffat's Boom was mediocre - but Millie Gibson's such a good actress that she can elevate sloppy writing. She actually has screen-presence and doesn't need to overact or burst into tears to get people to like her. Ncuti Gatwa has to do both because he's got nothing else going for him outside of being black and gay. Granted, Millie's a very attractive woman so her looks certainly helped but I was impressed by how well she handled the goodbye scene in the finale. On paper, it could have been incredibly melodramatic and cheesy but in practice, Millie made Ruby's emotions feel real. She initially tried to pretend that everything was normal and gradually broke down throughout the scene until it culminated with that tearful "I love you".

[@a.i.1905]

@@tomnorton4277 completely agree! Millie Gibson was the clear stand-out to me in this series. To think she led 73 yards as her FIRST episode at 18 and pulled it off is incredible, she’s definitely going places. My friend and I were talking the other day about the fact Ncuti doesn’t have an iconic outfit. The companion changes clothes each week so I’m conditioned now to see changing clothes as companion and doctor as iconic outfit. Maybe that also contributes to me not really feeling Ncuti as the doctor this series, I just hope it gets better for S2 😬

[@Melkur1981]

73 yards actually felt like an attempt at good television.

[@lozD83]

Guys. For real. You think people are calling the show woke purely because of casting? You don't understand the fans at all, in that case. It's the ridiculous dialog that's woke. "Something a male-identifying timelord wouldn't understand", etc. No need for it

[@charg1nmalaz0r51]

Yeah i have noticed a lot of people that argue against things being woke have no actual clue what people mean when they use the term.

[@jvblhc]

I watched every episode from Eccleston to Capaldi. Not all of them were great, but overall, I had a lot of fun watching. The Jodie years - not do much, though there were some good stories. These Ncuti episodes are some of the worst stories ever. Boom and 75 Yards were the best for me. I also think Millie Gibson as Ruby was the best character of the series. But overall, the season was near worthless. A Doctor who cries every episode. Just about every white male dies in any story. While Ruby is in danger, the Doctor is having fun time with one of those white males who doesn't get killed. Russel T Davies completely forgetting how to right a good story. This is not the Doctor Who stories I want to watch.

[@Dedition]

Ncuti's acting genuinely sucked. His delivery in almost every aspect was pretty sh*t. I feel like everyone is pretending he's good because of his skin colour and/or sexuality instead of his actual acting. I'm tired of hearing how "charming" he apparently is when none of it translates to the screen. I look at the delivery of what was supposed to be the most powerful line of the last episode where he realises he's still alive and it just fails to be Doctor-esque. He sounds whiny and the twang in his voice makes it impossible to not hear a child who sounds like he's struggling to come to grips with the situation he's in within every scene. I'm utterly confused why people keep pretending he's a good actor. I could understand it for Jodie as she seemed to genuinely teeter between some bad acting but also completely abysmal writing but Ncuti is just...bad. I don't get why people keep saying "he's so charming" when talking about his acting. What part? Genuinely. What are we seeing that's endearing? That he smiles and cries a lot? Or?

[@PaulRichards-vz4pl]

I agree. Gatwa isn’t convincing at all in the role. Terrible casting. If they wanted a good black actor to play the Doctor then Paterson Joseph or Adrian Lester would have been far better in this role. They are classy older actors with a beautiful use of the English language.

[@Pireslvhc]

I've only seen him in two roles, Eric from "Sex education" and the Doctor from "Doctor Who" and at certain points I couldn't tell the two apart. To me, that's a very telling sign of bad acting.

[@PaulRichards-vz4pl]

@@Pireslvhc Exactly. His range isn’t there for a role like the Doctor. Someone like Laurence Rickard or Adrian Lester would have been stronger choices. I think Russel T Davis has messed it up.

[@BrandonBayles-h2r]

@@Pireslvhc David Tennant is basically the same guy in Good Omens too

[@anthonygreen7063]

I have no problem with the actor who plays the Doctor being gay, but I do with the character of the Doctor seeming like a sexual predator, and in Rogue, conforming to the stereotype of gay men going after easy sex with someone they've just met. I know we've had hints of romance in the modern show before, notably with the Doctor and Rose (1). I'm not keen on it, to be honest, as a fan of the classic era, but I could live with it. But the full on snogging of someone he'd just met went way beyond that. I got the impression Davis just wanted to have that in there, almost to troll old fans like me. But the main problem was, as you guys said, was that none of the episodes was up to much. The best scene for me was the scene in the pub in 73 Yards, and that was thrown away as a joke at the expense of people, mainly English people, who expect people in remote areas of Wales to be backward. And that whole episode didn't really happen, in the end. Dot and Bubble was the best episode, but again, the main point seemed to be again to troll fans, this time for being racists. I'm not some racist Tory, and there's a way of doing politics in Doctor Who (see the Pertwee era), but this isn't it. And someone needs to tell RTD, and David Tennant, that there is a discussion to be had over, to be current, women's spaces. At the moment, these two come across as smug and aggressive, and RTD in particular is merely alienating much of his potential audience. I'll leave aside the problem RTD created for himself with his 'bi generation'. I mean, what was Tenant's Doctor doing while the word was ending in Empire of Death, watching it on television with Donna and her family, minus Rose (2) who was hanging around UNIT. Maybe he realised that none of it mattered because, in the end, everyone would live?

[@DoctorHowTV]

It needs fresh writers, as you say. A break is the only way to do that. The Fitzroy Crowd have had control for too long and the shine is definitely off.

[@ftumschk]

Except, of course, RTD wasn't part of the Fitzroy Tavern set. He was based in Manchester when the "Fitzroy Crowd" was in full swing.

[@williamwatson4354]

I'm an American fan who has loved this show since 1978. Its been a major part of my life. But they lost me with Chibs and sadly, Russell has done nothing to restore the show.

[@lucariodx8344]

I watch around 2005 and after Peter Capaldi I lost interest. I decided to hunt for classic ones

[@wolfywonder8480]

Honestly, from a writing perspective a lot of the choices in this series baffled me. Ruby doesn’t work as a companion on a fundamental level, to me, because no sane person would be so obsessed with finding their birth parent (who gave them up as a newborn) that they’d want to travel through time and space with a stranger. At least, no one except a literal child (like teenager at the oldest). It might’ve worked if they had the Doctor and Ruby actively going places seeking her mom out, but they didn’t - they just sort of wandered around and got into hijinks. Father’s Day is such a great episode because it finally pays off why Rose came with the Doctor despite barely knowing him and questioning her own choice - we get an answer to those questions as well as a great moment for us to better understand her as a person. But there was no such story here, that payoff was relegated to the very end of the finale in what felt like a tacked-on scene. The smaller episode count didn’t help, since it felt like the Doctor and Ruby barely got any time to actually develop an on-screen relationship. This limited the ability for them to effectively sow the seeds for the end of season mysteries (Sutekh and Ruby’s whole deal), and in general put the show in a chokehold. I can understand that they wanted the fifteenth Doctor to be more emotionally available after so many incarnations refusing to be honest with their feelings, but he cries in practically every episode and often just stands around in shock when anything gets in his way instead of acting. That’s not even mentioning the weirdness of Rogue, where he has this weird whirlwind romance with a random dude? Over the span of one episode? Like, Reinette came onto the Doctor a hundred times harder in The Girl in the Fireplace, but he didn’t fall in love with her, so why is this dude somehow an exception? The whole god/fantasy focus felt really weird, since the show hasn’t touched that stuff in absolute ages - I’d argue for good reason. When a sci-fi show doesn’t use scientific explanations anymore (however unbelievable they were), it stops being sci-fi and just becomes fiction. Why should I care about the tension of Boom when some cosmic god could just snap their fingers and fix anything that could go wrong in the plot (not that it seems the Doctor is on good terms with any of them)? It just kills the stakes for me, as well as making any solution the Doctor proposes seem asinine, since he has to rely on things like memory as time and belief as reality to succeed. I just… It’s so messy that I don’t think there’s any easy retcon fix for this (unlike the Timeless Child, which I’d argue could possibly work if the Timeless Child was the Master instead of the Doctor - though it’d still be messy as all hell) and, at this point, I’m bracing myself for a couple more years like the Chibnall era has been before the show either gets new blood or goes into hibernation for another twenty years.

[@undead_corsair]

Thank you for doing thoughtful criticism while directly calling out and pushing back against the anti-woke crowd's bs.

[@blackphoenix77]

This season had a few good episodes (Boom, Dot and Bubble), but the finale was the worst one. RTD never should have come back; he can't recapture the magic of 2005. It's time for someone new.

[@jacobyoung2045]

I agree this season didn't suffer from wokeness. It just suffered from bad writing.

[@Quotheraving]

To be fair there is a significant overlap between writing with an ideological agenda and poor writing. When you start with a fixed idea that you want to insert into the story, no matter what, then the story and characters must necessarily take second place. Navigating those ideologically fixed points in a manner that feels natural to the audience is a significant challenge and out of the reach of most writers.

[@wignallyt]

It suffered from both.

[@jacobyoung2045]

@wignallyt I actually refused to watch this season after seeing how woke and damn insulting the 60th anniversary was. I decided to give the season a shot, and the first 7 episodes weren't that bad compared to the 60th and Jody's era. Then, the last episode was just an insult to the fan base. After setting up a story throughout an entire season and to resolve it in the way they did. At this point, they should end Doctor who because it painful to watch.

[@jacobyoung2045]

@@Quotheraving True

[@alexandersolodovnikov4840]

Nah, a bit from both. The writing didn't do LGBT community any justice.

[@Rognik]

When I heard RTD was coming back, i was definitely hesitant. Sure, I was a little excited that the originator was coming back, but there's also the hesitancy of regressing back to "what worked". And here we are, with Ruby's overinflated importance, barely any time of the two working as a team, and ending pretty much back where we started. I'm hopeful for Season 2, but I think we all know it will probably disappoint us.

[@0MujaKina0]

LOL! The 13th Doctor era is somehow better than the 15th Doctor era!😂

[@girthbloodstool339]

Yeah, pretty much in agreement about this season - not much character development, which makes Ruby and the Doctor's relationship just seem really unearned. Too many big swings, not enough 'normal' episodes in a season that turned out to be too short for the things it tried. I really only like Dot & Bubble and 73 Yards, and that one, like the finale, did not make a lick of sense. I've been watching since the original run's season 5 (so I have seen lost episodes!) and was hoping we'd see a return to form after the DIRE Chibnall years. Maybe this a wobble, and season '2' will be better - can't say I'll really miss Ruby - I never really got know her in the first place. I hope I won't end up 'duty-watching' like I have in recent seasons.

[@mayotango1317]

And what is "normal" Doctor Who episodes for you?

[@Woke_Invaders]

​@@mayotango1317One that portrays the Dr. for example, not a lame copycat.

[@mayotango1317]

@@Woke_Invaders No, that's Jodie Whittaker imitating Tennant.

[@girthbloodstool339]

@@mayotango1317 where they show up at a time and place, run around, and solve a non-universe ending problem. O, and that is not shit.

[@Woke_Invaders]

@@mayotango1317 At least she tried. N'cuti plays himself.

[@mathieuleader8601]

*15 the ONE WHO WEEPS*

[@CoastersandPop]

There was so much more that could have been developed emotionally for Ruby, the complexity of feeling out of place, not part of one thing, not looking like your family is great sparks for drama but it was not used. The immediate “we’re besties” just felt false and weird and the amount of silly episodes - goblins vs space babies, I’m looking at you, just did not work. Hopefully for a second season and I hope there is a major twist for ruby as otherwise the “I’m not Jodie Whittaker in a cloak” pointy mum is bad.

[@mayotango1317]

I think work better that the Fam in the Chibnall era.

[@carealoo744]

Been looking for these guys for 6 months!

[@Anarchosyn]

Right there with you guys. I was such a Whovian back when Davies took over that I almost refused to watch the revival - Pyramids of Mars was actually my introduction to the show (in the mid 80s, on American public access television). My Doctors where 4 through 7, and it took a lot for me to consider the revival worth my time... but it sucked me in, in large part due to the contributions of Moffat, Gatiss, and Paul Cornell. Davies did a great job at expanding the (family) dynamics, and exploring a more rounded companion characterization, and -- like the gent on the left in your podcast said -- Chibs left me a touch cold. All that said, I know my Who. This.. this was maybe even worse than what Chibnall brought to the screen. I'm gutted to say that, and I didn't like much during that era, but Chibs never had an ending like 73 Yards, or trash like Space Babies (*and* Chibs' episode to explore the difference of his Doctor, The Witchfinders, explored the power dynamics of gender better than Dot and Bubble did race, but I knew Davies couldn't handle race ever since Shakespeare Code). Anyhoo, the one thing I feel you guys didn't comment on was the lack of an outfit identity with Ncuti. Maybe it's my classic Whovian bias, but Doctors tend to be defined by some general outfit, and that went right out the window this season. Shame... (he was also hip and fashionable? The Doctor is a dork, come on..)

[@michaeldaniel5009]

The doctor finds a time loop. "There's someone trapped in here" He frees them. Its Sutekh "Oh shit" CRASH IN OPENING CREDITS thats better than RTD

[@georgeetboom7719]

There’s just no dynamic build up of them being friends. Like I’m just watching buffy instead of this and Star Wars now as it’s so much better character wise

[@burgunbeerd]

@@georgeetboom7719 Buffy is S tier storytelling

[@georgeetboom7719]

@@burgunbeerd totally is. I’m only on the 3rd season so have so much more to come!!! Seems like we just need new big shows and retire the old ones.

[@wignallyt]

As the comments below show, there are masses of problems with this series and the direction RTD has taken. He has to go.

[@Melkur1981]

One of my worries is that 15 won't improve in S2, as it was filmed so close to the last series. There won't be any feedback until he films a third season, and that's IF he even gets one. Don't get me started on Ruby. Do we have to pretend that audience has the power to elevate a character in a fictional universe to make her arc work? Christ. Also, the whole Sonic looking like a gun was just dumb and hypocritical. I wish this would stop.

[@M3rche]

Inclusivity is good but first you have to focus on a coherent story line and THEN you can work on inclusivity.

[@muqtarali34]

This series suffers heavily from the change from 13 episodes to 8

[@dylanmcwilliam]

One thing that you pointed out was about how he isnt charming or funny in this series, I agree, and its strange because Ncuti displays so much charisma and great character in interviews, but when i compare that to his performance, its really bizarre because its almost like hes doing a impression of himself, but one without the natural charisma or wit he has in real life, and thats his interpretation of the doctor, it comes across as quite shallow and i dont yet fully buy him as the character

[@chrise7359]

Romance and Dr Who don't make good bedfellows regardless of genders. The fact that the Doctor was infatuated like a teen did sit badly, the fact it was a bounty hunter even worse.

[@thedeadpoolwhochuckles.6852]

I thought woke meant they couldn't be arsed to write a decent story so they just throw in some identity politics and call it a day. A god wouldn't give a toss what pronouns its called, but the actor playing it would. Everyone is just doing what The Rock does and plays themselves.

[@robbycooper6787]

The season felt way to short, and the mystery was barely noticeable if it wasn’t for the internet takin it for ad revenue.

[@heavysetmedia1904]

it seems that anything that is now on Disney or partnered with them is just rubbish. I feel bad that the second season is already shot? cause you know they are not going to be any different. maybe they will get the feedback before they start on a season 3? if it even stays on that long.

[@Benji568]

Oh god, did you hear the controversy around Neil Gaiman recently???

[@amongstreality3487]

One of the worst parts of the season is that they hired Ncuti for the role of the Doctor. He was busy with a different tv show and movie. Hence, we got 2 Doctor light episodes(that's 1/4 of the season), almost no character and relationship development between the Doctor and Ruby. By the end of the season, you don't care about Ruby and her leaving adventures with the Doctor behind, because we weren't shown how their relationship developed, and also knew that Ruby is officially part of the next season.

[@Domgo-d1w]

A staggeringly bad first season, with unquestionably the worst actor to ever play the Doctor.

[@lucasoheyze4597]

No, Jodie Whittaker was the worst.

[@elsienova4269]

@@lucasoheyze4597 Jodie had nice moments and there was stuff she geniunenly tried to make work with her acting skills (which are miles and miles better than Gatwa. Jodie tried the idea of a childish Doctor which led to fun scenes and good dialogue sometimes, she tried to put more emphasis on The Doctor tinkering with tech and making stuff which was a nice thing that was a big part of the classic series. Gatwa brought absolutely nothing, he only made The Doctor cry and that's it, because the truth is that he's a terrible actor, and an actor that only had roles in comedy non serious shows about sex before this, and that's what he tries to do here and it fails hard. Every single Doctor casting this far has had experience in emotional/serious roles before becoming The Doctor that gave them the experience to do the kind of stuff they did.

[@PatriciaCoberly]

R.I.P., Doctor Who.

[@Andrew-up3dr]

Imagine if it was the toymaker who was behind the confession dile in heaven sent the doctor dose say a few times he's in someone's game and when he get out at the end galifrays just completely fucked because the toy maker played a game with the planet and won

[@sadomensgaudaprime8142]

Elephant in the room,,, A quality BBC show has been hijacked by Disney, and been reduced in every way imaginable. It is now simply Disney+ 'filler',,, Badly written, badly acted, and weirdly ,,,still cheap looking. ( Even though it apparently cost a fortune. ) And as for 'Nothing woke happened' words fail me.

[@Throgmoyd]

Your analysis seems considered and reasonable - the problem is - I jus don't CARE anymore - so I can't watch past the first couple of minutes. Still, you have helped me realise that I dislike 'whatever currently masquerades as Docto Who' so much, that not ony can I not stomach watching the show itself anymore - but I can't even stomach watching REVIEWS of the bloody mess. I am sure you are splendid fellows with insightful views - but after over 50 years watching, I am officially OUT FOR GOOD.

[@mayotango1317]

Well, for those who have seen it, this new era is more creative and imaginative. You sound like those Moffat-Haters that never watch his era but hate Matt Smith.

[@mayotango1317]

Why is a mess if you never watch it?

[@tomnorton4277]

@@mayotango1317 Being influenced by The Last Jedi is not creative or imaginative. It's completely retarded.

[@steelBlender3D]

It seems to me that he wanted to make this soft reboot for a younger audience, but my sons 13 and has been watching it since he could walk and dnf'd the season. So what age is this being aimed at 3 to 4? In a way its worse than jodies run, because it wasn't bad, just boring

[@iisotter8944]

Dr Who 'OG' fan, through out its run the story was sometimes really bad, but the actor playing the DR would totally make it special. The DR was usually played by outstanding actors, usually stage actors with great presence. So for example the female DR should have been someone like Zoe Wanamaker, or Helena Bonham Carter. Traditionally great stage actors, with quirks and a huge presence, it did not matter that suddenly Daleks were upstairs, or the story silly, because the Dr was amazing to watch.

[@tussk.]

It failed because Ncuti was too busy doing something else to commit to the role, and it's obvious that he hadn't watched a single episode of Dr Who before he started filming. RTD put all of his eggs into the young black and gay basket, hoping to draw a new audience who would watch just because of who Ncuti is, and didn't spend any time building the character. Every Doctor has had a defining feature and moment, but this one just danced around the sets, crying and running away when he should have been the centre of the story.

[@mayotango1317]

Really? Ncuti feel like the Eight Doctor for me.

[@me-li8kd]

Crying. That was his thing.

[@mayotango1317]

@@me-li8kd Like Tennant.

[@rhyswallace3590]

Ncuti Gatwa actually did watch the show before he took on the role. Him being black and gay has nothing to do with anything. Tf is wrong with you?

[@lapniappe]

I've said this before, but i shall repeat it because i think this needs to stick. Jodi Whittaker stated that she only watched 2-3 episodes and then just stopped because it wasn't her style and she wanted to do her own thing. (and then you know made comments about how we needed to expand the shows gaze. (how would you know this - if you only watched two episodes in preparation?). but ultimately, Jodi didn't have to prepare because it was always very obvious this was who Chibnail wanted. Fastforward to Gatwa who is not natively British, who ticks 3 boxes on the DEI scale and of course this HAS to be our doctor. Was he a fan? i don't know. Did he prepare? OBVIOUSLY not. I think he spoke once about how the show was Britain's legacy and he wanted not to fail it but everything else was about NOT wanting to be great, how people needs to touch grass and how this is all about breaking barriers. Why was that the focus? Now compare those two - to Eccleston. he was not a fan of the show but he KNEW what the Doctor was. Tennant - MASSIVE fan - fully prepared to take on the role Smith - not a big fan - but fully researched the show's history. Capaldi - MASSIVE fan. truly honoured to finally be part of the shows lore. These 4 men did want to break barriers or shift the gaze or "represent" people or anything like that. they wanted to be. THE DOCTOR. They ALL had THE MOMENT. (countless moments). of when the going through space and time Lark ended and the Lonely God activated. you saw the duality of the being known as the Doctor. you could see why he ran because we saw when he stopped, what chaos he could bring. Did Whittaker do that? at all? Did Gatwa? the writing failed Capaldi. but Gatwa and Whittaker failed themselves

[@surpreemleadernoot]

I honestly really liked this season of doctor who however there are few things I didn't like and I am happy when I find people talking about those things and not "Omg that actress was born a boy oh how dare this show, its too woke"

[@ErmIDK19]

His acting is god awful ! Just AWFUL

[@MER17T]

he's trying to be Matt smith and fails

[@friendlyotaku9525]

How is his acting awful? His acting is fantastic so no.

[@elelonger4409]

He just been directed

[@user-fz1ou5bm9f]

I feel that Ncuti's ‘positive support’ from audiences is more of an aim to be politically correct than an actual critique of the actor playing the iconic role of The Doctor. I think he ended up being the wrong choice for the role because they were “trying” to be inclusive. We have already seen almost effortless inclusiveness with characters, such as Captain Jack. His sexual preferences… Well, I don’t think he actually had any preferences, he was kind of good to go for anyone. Alien or not. LOL. If they want to steer the show away from Caucasian actors and actresses that’s no big deal. But you don’t go looking for someone based on skin colour you go looking for a ‘Doctor’. You choose an actor or actress based on how true they will be to the character and role they will be in. Everything else is secondary. Whatever the “fantasy” aspect would crop up in the NeWho it would either be a mystery. The doctor was determined to figure out or had a sci-fi explanation. The doctor gets excited at the idea of ghosts and werewolves, but he’s always trying to figure out the, in his opinion, impossible. Unravel the mystery. This supposed “soft reboot“ feels like it needs a hard boot off the 12th story of a building. The whole thing would be more believable. If it turned out, there was a crack between the universes that coincided with the doctor getting shot/bi-generating. The existence of Ncuti's 15th Doctor, was actually just an alternate universe doctor Who hasn’t realized he’s not in Kansas anymore. (think Pete’s world). If that was the case then Ncuti's Doctor being “Just nice“ could very well be because he unknowingly had a different past from the current realities doctor. Maybe he went through “therapy“ for no reason at all, the traumas the doctor of the current universe faced wouldn’t be engrained in him. So of course therapy to treat an issue. That’s actually not an issue. Wouldn’t change much of anything. It might leave the 15th doctor wondering about why certain things make him cry, while other things that should affect him simply don’t. Or at least not nearly as strongly. Pretty much what I’m saying is “find a crack and send this doctor back”. Tenants doctor suddenly regains purpose in the wider scope of the universe again. It might even set it up nicely for the next regeneration.

[@ftumschk]

Hopefully, RTD will now realise that season arcs aren't as useful or necessary as some people think they are. If he'd given us eight or nine discrete stories, instead of having to shoe-horn in a breadcrumb trail that ultimately fizzled out, I honestly think this season would have been so much better. Sadly, the weak finale dragged down everything that went before. RTD could have given us an object lesson in what S11 should have been, but instead it felt a bit flat. As to the question of whether the finale was a shitty cherry on a shit cake, I disagree. I thought that much of this season was bold, entertaining and pretty darned good. Apart from Rogue which, even after repeated viewings, still strikes me as a lame period drama with a "meh" Doctor Who story built around it.

[@EuroMIX2]

I've heard it suggested that Disney guaranteed them 2 seasons of (presumably) 8 episodes each. In that case, to write around the lack of the classic revival amount of 13, make both seasons two halves of the same major mystery. End the last episode of the first half with a big reveal to act as a cliffhanger to draw people into watching the next season which concludes that arc. That way the first half can focus more on building the Doctor and Ruby's relationship before we get a reveal that alters how they might feel about each other and/or what is going on. I feel like that would allow for much better pacing.

[@achromat666]

As much as I loved RTD's first run, I'm more and more convinced someone else should have taken the reins, though I do wonder how much Disney and the BBC are affecting things. and since both the show was struggling to find a new showrunner when they went back to Russell, they could have just taken a hiatus, which I personally think they should have done after Twice in a Lifetime. New Who is woefully undercooked, and even if he's courting a younger audience, he did a better job of engaging old and new viewers the first time around. Seems more like an excuse.

[@Eustaphios21]

I really appreciate you guys touching base on the whole "woke" thing. Thank you for explaining that. Its important to distinguish the difference between poor writing, and directing, and something being bad because of politics. Dr who has always been inclusive. The fact the director admitted he lied to drum up content is absolutely wild, and not something to brag about.

[@Koronoir]

I never trusted RTD as a writter, was literally what I said when he was revealed as the new Showrunner "No... I don't want this dude that can't write a pay off properly and is fully based on deus ex machina to finish it..." I'm pretty sure the success of the first time was pure luck(I recommend to rewatch it... You will see many things I saw the first time that made me dislike RTD first Era)

[@Thedocwills]

Why it failed? Dont rely on a villian who only old fans know and there’s still more lore to catch up on. The original reboot didn’t rely on remember this

[@roberthardman367]

This season made me feel so drained of motivation because it lacked any substance or excitement but thank god I had you two to watch to reassure me

[@mayotango1317]

So you never watch it but still complains?

[@roberthardman367]

@@mayotango1317 No I watched all of it, what about that sentence implied I didn’t watch it? Learn to read

[@mayotango1317]

@@roberthardman367 Sorry, it's custom. Years ago, many Moffat-Haters hated Matt Smith for being the "other man to replace the dead Tenth Doctor" and even said that they have never seen his era.

[@roberthardman367]

@@mayotango1317 Apology accepted, sadly I’ve seen it all and matt smith was the least of our worries

[@mayotango1317]

@@roberthardman367 What? The Moffat era is the golden age.

[@timelesschronicles2182]

I've been watching Doctor Who for 45+ years and this was hands down the worse season ever, largely due to what you discussed in this video. In addition, I thought that the season finale was the worse episode EVER! Oh, sure you can point to others that were bad and disappointing, and had poor endings, but none have made me actually angry over how stupid the entire episode was. From knowing the resolution would be ANOTHER reset button to the plot conveniences to non-sensical plot points and the dumbing down of one of the greatest villains of the Classical Era to the stupid resolution of Ruby's mother, everything was terrible. I usually hate it when people say so-and-so "ruined" something like Star Wars, Star Trek, etc., but I really think that RTD is coming very close for me.

[@RH1812]

Disappointment. That’s my one word review of the season

[@stancollins6593]

Ncuti regenerates end of season 2.

[@friendlyotaku9525]

No, he's confirmed he's sticking around for Season 2.

[@Luna-cn4pj]

6:00 also with Rey ppl did question what her parents where why she was orphaned on jakuu

[@spiderden666]

Most people did that after finding out later in the movie she was a force user prodigy that could learn any force power on the fly and master it (mind controlling a storm trooper) and the fight with Kylo. Before that she could be an abandoned orphan in Jakku and most people wouldn't make massive theory posts on her heritage.

[@ipip5516]

First of, really enjoyed your videos covering Who, your views on editing and production etc have been great. I like Tchuti as an actor but I don't understand what he brings to the role honestly. It feels motivated for the wrong reasons and I feel bad for him as his identity is being used when he could be in other fulfilling roles. I also think this version of RTD is spiteful at his previous fans and he makes jabs at them throughout just to spite himself honestly. This series feels very "committee" written where they spitball various conjectures like "lets make Maestro a drag queen actor", "Oh yes, lets use Jinks Monsoon". "Lets have a Ruby alone to prove how strong she is." "Oh yes, and she takes down a white supremist government who loves nuclear arms". The finale is pretty much a shot for shot of the Master finale just really bad at least John Simm carried it. There were no good side actors either in this.

[@friendlyotaku9525]

"Ncuti as an actor but I don't understand what he brings to the role" He brings a fantastic, charismatic and fun performance. He's amazing!

[@MizziProductions]

They could’ve said that Sutekh was the one who derailed 10 and Rose, throwing them into the parallel world. That would’ve been interesting. I really don’t think Ncuti brought anything to The Doctor, and I really wish RTD had done the kitchen sink interactions too.

[@NaldragVG]

There's a lot of issues with this season and I say this as someone who mostly gave it the benefit of the doubt until Empire of Death. For starters, I think a lot of good will came from people just due to the general positive reception of the 60th anniversary specials and it left people desiring more of that... and I think in a just universe we would have gotten a full season of David and Catherine again since for returning viewers you'd already know who these characters are and not have to worry about character building near as much. (It also would have also given Ncuti's schedule even more time to clear up since Sex Education's last season was in production longer than expected.) That said, there clearly wasn't enough episodes for what RTD wanted to do story wise with Ruby so he couldn't really flesh out her character and it also just feels like a lot of stuff got left on the cutting room floor, cause I'm pretty sure I remember RTD saying 15's jukebox was supposed to be somewhat more utilized and the most you get from it is the cute bit in The Devil's Chord where it turns out to be finishing off the Doctor Who theme after Maestro started it. Personally if I were showrunner as weird as it sounds if I heard "hey you got eight episodes" I'd either try to do something like Flux again, or just do a season structured like McCoy's seasons. With either four (four two-parters) or five (two one-parters and three two-parters) serials just because it'd give the Doctor and companion a lot more room to breath and flesh out as characters and I think it's a shame that RTD didn't really think about doing that and probably isn't doing that for Season 2 either. It also really just doesn't help that unlike previous RTD finales even if they had some rubbish deus-ex machina or not it at least paid off all the main arcs the season was telling outside of the few breadcrumbs sprinkled for the next season and Empire of Death HAD the rubbish deus-ex machina while also just not paying off the overall arc very well and just writing it off as "well you read into all these hints about her mother too much also ignore the fact that Ruby makes it snow when she's sad and that gods think she's a freak". Ultimately I think this season fails as a result of death by a thousand cuts... followed by having your head blown off by a shotgun at the very end.

[@me-li8kd]

positive reception...lol

[@suitablestrawberry687]

Writing has felt off starting in the specials and through series 1. So many things don't make sense and too few interesting character moments with the cast. And why go with Space Babies as the opening series episode, how is that ever a good introduction for new Disney+ viewers? Does seem RTD has seriously dropped the ball on writing and concepts, perhaps nobody else on the team could voice a critical view to correct the mistakes. If they have already filmed series 2 then we have to expect the confidence (or hubris) was still holding sway and it will be more of the same. If we had the option then I would suggest the next series be 4 two-part episodes. Simpler stories with better structure and more time to develop a scenario, the characters, tension, cliffhanger and resolution. After flux and series 1 it might be time for a simpler approach to stories.

[@funkydanieluk]

Ncuti is terrible. He seems like he is either giggling like an idiot and trying not to laugh...or crying again. He is completely miss caste.

[@chouinardfrancais]

tbh he acts the way the script wants him to... the script is just garbage

[@friendlyotaku9525]

He's not miscast but you certainly misspelled there! He's fantastic.

[@vb2806]

He can only play one character and that is Eric from s3x education, that's his range

[@friendlyotaku9525]

@@vb2806 you're really not hiding the bigotry are you?

[@guygrist4436]

It's not been great and I'm one of those weirdos whom liked the Whitaker years. There are some episodes I liked but it ended up feeling rather directionless. It feels bit like season 22 where it doesn't know where it's going and is a bit to obsessed with the shows past.

[@lolfzbf]

This new season was utter garbage. It was more about delivering the message & less about writing quality Dr Who. This new Dr is a total miscast

[@Woke_Invaders]

Dr. Who Wants To Be a Good Citizen is lame.

[@friendlyotaku9525]

Doctor Who is a show that delivers messages. Not been here long?

[@Woke_Invaders]

@@friendlyotaku9525 But maybe its message deserves to be criticized? Or not the message in itself, but the clumsy way of delivering it?

[@friendlyotaku9525]

@@Woke_Invaders Such as? What is the clumsy way of delivering it? give examples.

[@Woke_Invaders]

@@friendlyotaku9525 Like trying to criticize r##cism while pointing fingers at white people. Which is r##cism in itself.

[@mathieuleader8601]

In regards to the series being connected with the Timeless Child at first I thought Mrs. Flood and Ruby's Nan are actually incarnations pre-Hartnell

[@nigelwalker6103]

The new fans haven't turned up. If they wanted to get younger fans, they should have targeted the millennials. Many have kids now, and if they liked it, they'd watch with their kids. If he made a series that appealed to the 20 and 30 somethings, it would also appeal to older fans as well, like the 2005 revival did. So you'd add millions of viewers at a stroke and potentially create a future audience. It's not that hard to work out. I agree that the showrunner shouldn't write all the stories. In classic, who you had a producer and a script editor. The producer had some input but was mainly looking after the external stuff to make the series happen. The script editor looked after the creative side and would help shape the scripts but didn't write them, usually.

[@SissyPoettler]

My opinion is they should've kept Jodie instead of David, go directly to Ncuti.

[@thevirgologychannel6215]

Great video and I agree with a lot of what you’re both saying. Personally I think we have the equivalent of dad dancing here. RTD has admitted that his purpose is to pull in the under 30’s, the generation that doesn’t watch television. We have Doctor Who for the TikTok generation with vastly shorter attention spans and are watching TV at the same time as scrolling through their phones. The journey we experienced with the characters from the classic series to 2005 up until now has diminished. The difference for me what how RTD told the story of Rose not really knowing her father but heard stories and built up an idealized version. She has a vague memory of him but when the chance to came save his life she jeopardises the world and her relationship with the Doctor. It all made sense. Compare this with Ruby who would naturally like to know who her birth mother is but doesn’t actually seem to have had any ill affects because she was brought up in a loving family. The only one she knows! The crying and wailing at the hologram of a stranger was a bit weird. I mean if she’d had an awful upbringing or couldn’t function because of the feeling of abandonment that would work but she’s pretty much happy go lucky. Personally, I think Doctor Who needs a revamp of how it’s made and by that I mean team written. Including American writers ! I like Ncuti but we need the know it all Doctor back and the alien distance. He can do that and in fact I think it’s essential he does. I’m black so I can say this but there are some racist trope his Doctor has fallen into. The jazz hands, singing and dancing and hurdling. Even the overtly sexual undertones in Rogue, (which by they wouldn’t have done if he was coded as straight) . I think we need to share our toys with the show and I actually think we need our first American Doctor. Just because Americans like watching Americans . The really needs to change to make it relevant.

[@AkasaurusRex]

The Woke be is absolutely in there and dismissing it and people who bring it up isn’t helpful. But the sad, hilarious thing about it is that it had ZERO bearing on making the season good or bad narratively. It’s just there for Russel and his weird friends to make fans fight and him feel good about himself. The Meep story would have been without the trans Rose hating Men, Wild blue yonder would b the same without Indian Newton, the Goblins n episode the same without the 8 foot tall trans guy in the beginning who you never see again. Take out all that virtue signaling and the series is just as bad. Th comedy series Community predicted Jodie’s female Doctor. Which proves God really is Loki and existence is just a joke lol I’m so grateful being a Palaeontology Nerd is my core love, I feel so sorry for those who gave Star Trek, Star Wars, Who, Marvel etc., as theirs. Luckily the Nosferatu remake looks amazing…

[@friendlyotaku9525]

Yeah, it's woke, which Doctor Who has been since it began in 1963.

[@cyberemperor1435]

I do like this series, however, compared to all the pre jodie series its not as good - A lot of the things u say i agree with, but tbh most of the problems i have is with the series structually, and how it missed the mark on what it was meant to be, if we were going just off the episodes, i think id like it more

[@stevenmcnicoll5060]

Its so dull. It's not Doctor Who. Just the trappings. Poorly written. Bad storytelling. Such a shame.

[@Melkur1981]

I'm genuinely wondering if this has been a hit in the US? I'm talking about it's actually reach, as I still don't think it'll ever be a mega hit over there.

[@mcdaysalive6586]

I think Doctor Who is moving in the right direction from the Chibnal era, but overall Russel's biggest problem (And the BBC rn) is they refuse to listen to any kind of fan feedback. Any feedback is seen as negative and they seem to go out of their way to avoid listening to what the fans say they want. I get that over the last decade, we've had a wave of anti-woke grumbling fans, but the majority of us just want Doctor Who to have good writing, and it feels like they haven't listened when we've said "Hey we didn't like this plot" or "You need more of X in your season."

[@Shew28]

Mel… that’s what I liked in the show, seeing Bon’s updated version of this character was brilliant… and I would watch the UNIT team, I just hoped for better.

[@vortexspinner4470]

Why it failed??? You really need to ask????? 😂😂😂

[@williamwheeler7068]

I've been a fan of the show since the 70's. It is just a show I keep in my heart. However my first upset with the show was when they started to mess with the regerations. That began in Matt Smiths last episode. When it was said the Mata-crisis was a regeneration. However, I stayed with the show. The in Jodie's era. The whole Timeless child thing. Almost made me quit the show altogether. Note: I'm not Jo Matins Doctor in my rant because I like Her Doctor. Then when the 60th came up and David returned. I had one eyebrow raised. But if you listen well and take note. David's face and body was like a shell. Ncuti Gatwa is in there waiting. Now as far as his first run went it was Ok.

[@JolynBowler]

Have to disagree. Tom Baker was my first Doctor in '75. Although there are a few episode I've enjoyed less than most, but enjoy each story as it comes. I’ve seen them all🌻

[@me-li8kd]

Even the 97 missing ones. Don't buy it.

[@JolynBowler]

@@me-li8kd whatever I can get my hands on or for that matter my eyes on

[@brendanfalvy1281]

The movie is Croatian, “No Man’s Land”. It’s fantastic

[@mmobhm2059]

You two are a joy to watch

[@AllThePiecesMatter_]

I have to agree that it failed for many of the reasons you two discuss. It might have worked well had the two-part finale satisfactorily closed the chapter on the many mystery boxes but sadly it brought down the whole season and I do think season 2 will be much the same. Maybe Varada Sethu will help provide a more compelling doctor/companion relationship and maybe the production team will have settled in and (re)found their feet and maybe Ncuti's lack of outside commitments will help but I fear a continuation of the parts of season 1 I didn't care for, like fourth-wall breaks for no discernable reason and Mrs Flood.

[@burgunbeerd]

RTD said in a comicon interview recently that "Fourth wall breaks are just a part of the show going forward"

[@AllThePiecesMatter_]

@@burgunbeerd yes, he also said at some point that "they" -presumably the production team - know the reason for the fourth-wall breaks but see no reason to explain it. Sometimes I think RTD needs to stop talking. I say this as someone who loves the RTD1 era and is a fan of his other work outside of the show.

[@Che1Angelius]

Another flaw is that Ncuti had to finish filming another show. So that is why, this season is Doctor-lite.

[@markcolgan3262]

It failed cos doctor who is sci-fi and always has been the into of supernatural and gods didn’t fit right with the ethos of the show

[@zcvxs]

Sad for jinkx ..she had soo much hope

[@ThatSalmonGuy]

Honestly I have hope that they'll capitalise on the strengths that they have shown, but do I I have faith in their ability to do so? Honestly, I'm not so sure and I've felt this since Bill.

[@PatriciaCoberly]

Better writing and scripts are needed. And what good is DEI when there's no creativity involved?

[@nicklennox]

Would love to see you guys break down the presidential debate

[@CoryBollig]

I say it failed because I can't find it on any of my streaming services. I'm not buying Disney just for one show.

[@ReinatakaharaVT]

The issue is we had zero time to see the doctor and what he can do they literally just threw him into a story arc . Standalone episodes are the best ones . I dont know this doctor and even after this one season I still don't know anything about him . He's crying alot and he doesn't really do anything . As someone who Is trans the way rtd has handled those characters is awful . They just make stereotypes and then say oh we care .

[@Luna-cn4pj]

9:05 true I hate when ppl use term woke and stuff it’s soo dumb😭

[@killhall021]

Doctor, who was great. I loved it, my subscription ran out before I could catch up The 13th Doctor, I hope it's not as as disappointing as you're saying it is, ...because of..Your feelings of this is the same feelings I had whenever the Halo TV show, came. Out/ the feeling of what developers are doing bad-mouthing the characters,...

[@johnrider5701]

I took his advice and went out and touched grass and it's more entertaining than the new series.

[@zcvxs]

Cant ever remember the channel name .. Burger beard is not correct

[@Luna-cn4pj]

9:23 bad politician reminds me of black mirror demon 79 they done it better then this

[@greggmcmahan8566]

I been watching Dr who from Tom Baker days. When Peter Capaldi played Dr. who that's was the last time Dr who was worth watching. The last two seasons sucks. The writes has screwed the dr who shows. BBC network and Disney just need let Dr who die before it get any worse.