Why this speaker is considered the best for vocals ! [4K]

[@drs-Rigo-Reus]

You fill a void in the industry! Close to the subject, tech specs and a listeners perspective. Very well done! And needed......

[@garyalexander5686]

"..you don't hear the box as much.." That's absolutely true. I have a pair of Falcon Acoustics LS3/5As. I'm driving them with a Cayin Audio US A-88T MK 3 on the 8 ohm tap. Earlier versions of this amp had a 16 ohm tap but not the MK 3. Still, the sound is consistently open, warm and immersive. Nice review. Thanks.

[@luciodelgado]

Simple, honest and straight forward!. Excellent thrusted Channel for all audiophile who is very interested in and enthusiatic about equipment for playing recorded sound, and its quality. Your doing a good job and excellent videos. Thumb up!

[@greymurdock2]

You have the knowledge and wisdom that’s all that matters. Keep sharing

[@ampheat]

I just bought a pair of ROGERS STUDIO 3 and am impressed. Great sound. Get a pair if you can before they start getting more expensive. a great alternative to the venerated Rogers LS3/5a. The bass is impressive for the size

[@joseph-ow1hf]

I think the LS3/5a was the gateway drug for a lot of back in the late 70's into the world of audio higher end audio.

[@hushpuppykl]

Rogers LS3/5a + Rythmik F12 ... settled. 😬 I’m enjoying them. They sound so lush. Very different from the P3ESR.

[@charleskatz2606]

P.S. another speaker on my possible near field list is the Voxativ Hagen

[@gino3286]

Thanks a lot for the very informative and helpful reply. I think that one of the biggest issue with human voice is that is difficult to cover well all the human voice freq range with just one drive. Lately i have become aware of the phase coherence issue. To have a crossover point inside the voice range poses a big challenge ,,, however i do not know about the xover of this speakers. But i have the feeling that a wide band driver could be even better for voice reproduction.

[@RennieAsh]

It's crossed fairly high I thought, maybe around 4-5kHz?

[@gino3286]

@@RennieAsh Hi thanks for the info. Then there is another problem with music with high content in the lowest freq ... IMD. These monitors should be cut below 100 Hz for best results. i think that the BBC monitor woofer would be a great midrange. I think that Spendor and Harbeth do something similar.

[@RennieAsh]

@@gino3286 It's definitely a sound some people like. Yes it would probably do well in a 3-way, though I'd possibly distance the large woofer baffle from the mid-tweet box so you keep that clear vocal. ____ | | ____ | | _________ | | | | _________

[@gino3286]

@@RennieAsh yes i like your approach a lot. I have a friend who loves deeply the ls3/5a and has a pair made i do not remembe kef or rogers ? he built a subwoofer (two one per channel) for them. I found the result really excellent. He also built a passive xover but unfortunately i did not remember which cuts it adopted. Small woofers sound so much cleaner (i.e. less distorted) when dispensed from reproducing the lower Hz like below 100 Hz ... and they can sound also louder. But a sub is needed of course. Thanks again and kind regards, gino

[@superarsenal009]

Which Tannoy speakers do you consider the best for vocals?

[@dougg1075]

If you dialed in a sub perfectly with these, would it be bad ass or just get another speaker with bass built in?

[@linkeddevices]

What's funny is that you can do the same thing to any speaker by adding felt the same way. It even works better when it's slightly asymmetrical but no one does it because it's ugly

[@Dilyaev]

These have an incredible tone! try using supra ply 3.4 speaker cables to increase it's timbre / tone!

[@edwardbalboa5528]

Buy a digital EQ if u want alter the tone ... Cables do not alter tones ... scientifically impossible

[@charleskatz2606]

Nice review.Ever compare them to Harbeth P3ESR?I also think you had a PMC review I was wondering how they compare with the Fact6.The only thing I thought was missing with this review was a comparison of how they sound near vs midfield.

[@linkeddevices]

Im so glad kef decided to resurrect them with some actual anesthetic consideration

[@Jayiyagi]

Audio space and falcon audio resurrected them not kef

[@edwardbalboa5528]

I mostly like the look of them ... And great for listening to radio talk ,. And pretending it's 1970

[@aquagreensorganic]

Where to buy them?

[@josegallardos4265]

I bought a pair of this today at a local thrift store for $2.95 each.

[@net_news]

well.. many british bookshelf speakers are "remakes" of the BBC LS3/5a, for example the KEF LS50

[@Beathoven007]

Seems to be partly in the name with the LS. With '50 marking KEF's 50th aniversary.

[@tthedon2471]

i see d'agostino amps in the background, when you review them?

[@CONVID-xy4ur]

Hi, I like your review on the LS3/5A, is there a big difference.if you use 8 ohm amplifier vs 16ohm. Does it really effect the sound. I am considering an LS3/5A but 16ohm tube amps are very expensive, also my concern.is my power.amp is rated at 300 watts at 8 ohm, will it be to much if it plays 15 ohm LS3/5A. My pre amp is tube, my power.amp is solid state. My concern is will the sound be noticeably uglier with 8 ohm, next is my amplifier over kill, and is a solid state amp with tube preamp good combination match this, or must it be all tube. Thanks and good review

[@dougbulldog9947]

Thanks for sharing your knowledge. I have recently inherited a pair of old audio master LS 3/8A 8ohm 150W speakers made in UK do you know anything about these? I cant find anything on them

[@JohnOShaughnessy]

is there any manufacturer label? How old are they? are they from Rogers? they had floor standing ones called LS8a's

[@Hdngy8]

Monitor used before the Ls35a's.

[@lumntoob999]

I had a pair of harbeth p3esr and I really miss them after watching this video. There are still many speakers I want to hear but I could see going back to an ls3/5a for a while or even keeping a pair long term. They have a unique sound that I really enjoy but there are still a few more speakers that might compete that I'd like to try, like the full range open baffle stuff from GR research or a pair of the bigger driver Tannoys.

[@charleskatz2606]

thomas locatell Yeah I have been watching "Tech Tuesday" with owner Danny of GR at New Record Day.Were on same page.Maybe Tekton but other outside of the box (and these BBC :S3/5's are definition of that term) would be GR.Pure Audio Project,or Spatial Audio.Yes Devore and Vandesteen still some of my faves but lower cost and benefits of open baffle given the right room is intriguing

[@lumntoob999]

@@charleskatz2606 yep we're definitely on the same page, all great speakers you bring up. I love the tech Tuesday's with Danny that Ron is doing. That is actually what made me remember about the GR research stuff, like I said before there are just so many great speakers to try you can forget about some stuff for a while. The reason I'm leaning towards GR research though is because of the possible value, their diy kits are a ton of speaker for the money. I know you have to put your own time into assembling and finishing it but I will enjoy that part of it and then you know the quality of the build to. I'm looking into building the NX-Otica kit with an automotive grade paint and clear finish on them.

[@hushpuppykl]

I miss mine too. The P3ESR is great for vocals, piano, saxophone, violin and many other instruments etc. But I must admit, they don’t have the extended highs that gives the airy sound. But then again, with the extended highs it will mess up the naturalness of vocals.

[@charleskatz2606]

@@lumntoob999 Yeah.I must say that while Tekton's Eric Alexander might be a good designer the Parts Express stuff he put's in seems a bit crappy.With large cabinets to shipp you have to cut cost somewhere.I would like to hear the DI's,DI montiors,and SET 15's (he he has vids on them) but again not sure about parts.Compare that to Pure Audio Project where you get basic frame,mid and bass drivers but a choice of rethm,voxativ etc plus and open architecture and you have upgrade path.Watched OCD Hifi guy do simple mods like adding silver wire on Klipsch and it seems to pay off.Having choice and path is good.Plus with GR like you said get the plans cut 'em yourself or get the flats delivered has to cut material and shipp costs.I like crazy high end stuff like Avantgarde horns and own an EAR 834 int but got stuff when I was flush and now think companies like Schiit or Spatial Audio,GR or some other kit companies are where it's at because 1/2" thick aluminum face plates and Lexus prices are a waste

[@lumntoob999]

@@hushpuppykl I agree they are not the total package but definitely unique. It's funny because they are so rediculously cheap ($73 USD on sale) but the Sony ss-cs5 is a unique speaker to, it has great vocals and really fun highs, you just need a subwoofer to have any good bass at all. I actually have them on my stands right now in place of speakers from a few hundred to over $1k and in a decent system with a decent sub they actually sound really great and have a unique sound to them. I don't know how they would sound in a system where the price of the rest of the gear matched the speakers but in a decent setup like I consider mine they sound fantastic.

[@robh9079]

falcon acoustics (uk) still do a ls3/5a 'style' kit at under $1000 - they also make 'the only genuine LS3/5A in production' though seems now they have some competition! stirling made some matching subwoofers for their ls's to sit on

[@antonchigurh4125]

The Ram Studio 30 floorstander by Falcon look very tasty!

[@RennieAsh]

Would be interesting to compare to the 5" ATC SCM7, but the ATC I can get for less money than an ls3/5a let alone the "sought after" version. New is some ridiculous amount of money like $4000 AUD

[@matthewtaylor6405]

They can be had from China. There versions 500 or 800 quid etc. Plaudits for the British audio elite and there followers make all kinds ov xcuses. If u ignore English distribution networks u save 2000 pounds. They don't give a toss about us they want get r money etc. I ordered mine 750 n they r identical at least to my chartwells now sold.

[@stephencosta6814]

, hey brother I cannot find how much they cost what is the price of those speakers and if you can direct me to the cheapest version of those speakers thank you so much love you reviews keep up the great work I trust you so much even with my wife😍😍👍👍🙄🙄☹️☹️

[@NickP333]

Hey Steve. Here’s a link to a kit from falcon to build these speakers. Btw, I see you in the comments section over at OCD HiFi guy all the time. Mike’s a great dude! Have a good one! www.falconacoustics.co.uk/ls3-5a-full-bbc-specification.html

[@ahmadathari3503]

Hey, i suggestes you to buy the original ls3/5a new classic build by andy whittle, other one dont have bbc licensed agreement

[@jozefserf2024]

What if? What if someone was to build them today exactly the same in every way but only with modern better drive units? The originals had fairly standard drive units didn't they? There must be room for some improvement, mustn't there? Or were those BBC designers back then just better than those of today?

[@edwardbalboa5528]

Epos far superior.... Ls3/5 was a voice monitor..... It's not good for full range audio

[@panoskonstantinidis1950]

Have you tried a subwoofer with the LS3/5a? I have a pair of Falcon LS3/5a and an looking at filling that missing bottom end. Apart from that, I am IN LOVE with the LS3/5a. I prefer them to my Harbeth SHL5 Plus 40th Anniversary, which are great speakers on their own. So, any suggestions about a sub? REL T/7i or SVS SB-2000 Pro? Or something else? Or no sub at all?

[@barneypooch]

Panos, I have the same Harbeths and I just ordered the Falcon Gold Badge. I'm very excited to hear them. Did you try subwoofers yet?

[@arnolfini1434]

LS35A speakers should have grilles on!

[@cmessi]

No.

[@arnolfini1434]

@@cmessi So you know more than BBC engineers!

[@cmessi]

@@arnolfini1434 No. it is just that differences in sound are negligible. And they are designed as nearfield, but not everyone listens nearfield. Every owner should do what he wants.

[@dougg1075]

Remember, try not to be like Sean , you have to be you. You seem slightly less enthusiastic doing reviews at the store.. like you don’t want to be there. Other than that keep up the good work man.

[@Alan-megan]

These speakers were specifically designed to reproduce the main spectrum of human hearing, i.e. the human voice, in a "small' room/environment. Very very good velvety smooth sound, especially with human voices (Adele and Jennifer Warnes would sound like they are there singing in front of you) and majority of jazz music instruments eg. piano, saxophone, guitar, violin etc. But way Over rated. They don't have enough speed and attack and would struggle with more complex musical pieces and in larger rooms!!.

[@edwardbalboa5528]

The BBC stopped using these decades ago

[@thomasandersen6014]

Yes?

[@jamesveach6918]

Those speakers sell for $1,500 to $5,000 and up

[@edwardbalboa5528]

Ridiculous.... Good or amazing ,they're still just small speakers

[@edwardbalboa5528]

Great for vocals ..... Not for full range audio ...... Or buy some Epos ,. And have both capabilities

[@dougg1075]

Doesn’t it make sense that if a speaker does the human voice correctly then everything else should be correct? Ad a sub and done dog

[@westelaudio943]

1:15 Oi m8, u got a loicense fo that speaka?

[@edwardbalboa5528]

The Chinese won't copy 100% because they don't have the license?? Lol .... Yes they will !!

[@dougg1075]

Everyone hates to hear themselves.

[@edwardbalboa5528]

True. . but why?

[@playboyv12]

@@edwardbalboa5528 because our jaw makes our perceived sound to ourselves, deeper than it actually is. So we never hear our real voice except in recordings

[@henry66699]

I see this so often on KZbin and its getting more and more annoying.....please take some professional soundrecording if you discuss gear like this. And give us real samples...really the sound is so awfull in 80% (raw guess) of the video's...no problem if its just a video but the thing is.....you are the one who is talking about the sound being so great.....so why in ...name is your video sounding as if its coming from a cardboard box or a small toiletroom?Maybe the sound in the actual room is super....but you've recorded it so that its just not coming across...... and you don't alway's have to use good music....that sounds alway's great even on a ghettoblaster....same as disco...it stomps and stomps and always sounds great no matter if you listen to crappy audiosystems.