Why this Wing Won’t Catch On

This Rear Wing is absolutely MENTAL! It's called the 'Active Multi-Axis Centripetal Wing' - let me explain.
So when you look at a Ferrari, then a Ferrari race car - there aren’t that many differences anymore. Power is similar, suspension setups are similar, and so are the brakes.
But the main one is the aero - but! Properly clever active aerodynamics have slowly been appearing on modern supercars - and this Zenvo is the maddest of them all.
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Enzo Ferrari once said “aerodynamics are for people who can’t build engines”. In hindsight, he might be wrong. Aerodynamics has shaped the way cars look, made them faster and even more economical.
As technology has moved on, carmakers have tried many clever ways to improve aerodynamics. One of the most popular, particularly in modern supercars, is active aero. This enables a car's aerodynamics to change while it's moving.
And by the way, folding the mirrors in on your Fiesta doesn’t count.
To give you an example, a fixed rear wing can give you an improvement in downforce, pushing down on the rear wheels and increasing grip. Unfortunately, it also increases drag, making it harder for a car to move through the air at higher speeds - reducing its top speed.
So the engineers need to figure out something that can change dynamically.
The McLaren P1 is a great example of this. Not only can it hunker down closer to the ground, but the rear wing changes in height and angle depending on the speed or mode it's in.
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[@OVERDRIVE.studios]

I want this on my car! This Zenvo looks absolutely mental! *Don't forget to subscribe! We're so close to 100k*

[@mateerdei3218]

What do you think about vertical "wings"? Well not wing, i don't know the word for it. Like the pagani one, just not on the top but on the side. Would have little affect on wheel load if executed properly, but i think it could redefine things. Cornering G load and tire wear also. While "downforce" just adds to tire wear. This moveable rear wing this vid is about is half way there.... Why not go all in, i might never know. Race cars could be steered like a plane with little to no downforce.

[@MagnumLoadedTractor]

P1 gtr has DRS and a big chassis mounted wing

[@DeViceCrimsin_]

5:30 to that I say: “Full send it. Active Adjustable everything, boom”. True flyby wire like a true mad scientist should.

[@alunesh12345]

@@mateerdei3218 Believe in JESUS today, confess and repent of your sins. No one goes to heaven for doing good but by believing in JESUS who died for our sins. GOD loves you soo much unconditionally.🤩❤😍🤗

[@mateerdei3218]

@@alunesh12345 may i ask what is your religion? Also, if Gods love is unconditional, then why not send me to heaven anyway? Whats the alternative? Im not messing with you im genuinely curious.

[@blargl121]

Can't wait in 20 years for the entire car to change shape like a transformer when going around corners

[@khuthalandebele4954]

🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂

[@shadmansudipto7287]

Better yet, like Lightning McQueen.

[@DecibelthePanda]

@@shadmansudipto7287 drift around every corner?

[@DJAizakku]

Have you seen SRT's Tomahawk concept?

[@kerimca98]

@@DJAizakku My first thought too

[@mikedrop4421]

The moving rear diffuser and wing actually appeared on the Mitsubishi 3000GT/GTO VR4 in the mid 90's and blew my 12 year old mind.

[@tim.iteland.9447]

Only 24 sold in the UK

[@Tarex_]

VW Corrado also had a moving wing, same time period

[@metadata4255]

wings that move up and down make sense, this thing doesn't make the car go faster, I suspect they consulted an 11 year old

[@Tarex_]

@@metadata4255 Wings don't make the car go faster anyway (Downforce is drag, hence hiding the wing is DRS), this one makes the car go faster around corners though, allegedly xD

[@kublenator]

Epic

[@captain_context9991]

Zenvo eventually came back on TopGear and finished their lap. The car was about as fast around the TopGear track as your average family hatchback. They had a LOT of work to do back then.

[@alunesh12345]

Believe in JESUS today, confess and repent of your sins. No one goes to heaven for doing good but by believing in JESUS who died for our sins. GOD loves you soo much unconditionally.🤩❤😍🤗

[@MagnumLoadedTractor]

And now?

[@TehDookman]

According to Wikipedia, the Zenvo did its lap while the track was very wet, so its a little misleading to compare it to similar lap times done on a dry track.

[@daveyattenborough4115]

@@ufvnjg6 pretty sure jewish, christian and muslim scholars agree you all worship the same god, just in different ways...

[@antanis]

@@daveyattenborough4115 a good example of why there is no good reason to believe in any of them.

[@KyrosTheWolf]

I remember driving the Zenvo in Forza Horizon 3 or 4, can't remember which one, but when I saw the wing tilt as I went round corners I was like "whoa wtf"

[@19kruger99]

Same lol me and my friend were challeging eachother and he suggested we try the Zenvo Boy were we surprised 😂

[@LegitDucks]

It was 4, I don't think zenvo was in 3

[@valkeitos]

Yup, it's the 4th game. I tried making a race tune with it

[@johnosullivan5241]

I have it in forza horizon 5 now. I was very surprised when i seen it move. Found it very hard to drive as well

[@commonsense7754]

@@LegitDucks thing was a weapon in s1 for Goliath in FH4...

[@wild_lee_coyote]

The interesting thing about a movable wing like that is the way it adds traction to the inner rear tire. It’s not pushing down more on the inside tire. It’s actually sucking the entire rear end into the corner. A rear wing on a car is an inverted airfoil that pushes down perpendicular to the width if the wing. If you tilt it at a crazy angle then you can I react that force into the turn instead of straight down. This allows for more traction and greater rotation in the corner, creating higher speeds cornering speeds. There reason you don’t really see it in other cars is because of aesthetics and it’s complexity. It is what happens when a small car company is willing to take a risk and try something new.

[@dylanclark8856]

Yeah driven media's takes are ussually pretty basic honestly.

[@jonahgetz5882]

Any gains you get from lateral aero force aren't as important as downforce. Racing tyres can have a coefficient of friction as high as 1.7. You could either have 100N of lateral force from aero or put that 100N into the ground and have 170N more lateral force. It's a little counterintuitive, but tyres are so important to cars that the benefit of weight transfer is probably much more important than the lateral force gained from tilting the wing.

[@hjuugoo4416]

​@@jonahgetz5882 It doesn't quite work like that because we are dealing with angles and the components of downforce involving sines and cosines. Using your given coefficient of friction of 1.7, if I havent fucked up, there's an ideal angle for the wing of around 30.5 degrees where the combined force of the tires and the aerodynamics of the wing is highest.

[@anthonyborrazas6289]

From an engineering standpoint just like you, the weight shift from back to front in the cross diagonal pattern may not be such a big issue as trying to plant 1200 horsepower to rear wheels. Maybe the car had a massive oversteer problem, and this would help correct part of it so as horsepower gains shifting to help keep weight balanced in corners and good traction you might have to take different approaches.

[@dheerajmurthy393]

Oversteer?

[@alunesh12345]

@Daniel Sebastian Believe in JESUS today, confess and repent of your sins. No one goes to heaven for doing good but by believing in JESUS who died for our sins. GOD loves you soo much unconditionally.🤩❤😍🤗

[@StuntpilootStef]

@@alunesh12345 Lay off the juice will ya?

[@StuntpilootStef]

Exactly, have the chassis set up for oversteer, so low speed corners are fast. Then use the wing to balance it in high speed situations. It's what the thing is for. I think the main drawback is the added weight. There's no way this isn't massively heavier than a normal wing negating any performance gains from the wing itself. If there even are any.

[@MagnumLoadedTractor]

Make it awd?

[@Matty.Hill_87]

Before even watching I'd say reliability seems like an issue, it just seems like another expensive thing that's going to break or get broken

[@RR-us2kp]

It's a hypercar. It's already expensive. Reliability or practicality of the wing doesn't matter. It makes it special. That's all that matters.

[@Matty.Hill_87]

@@RR-us2kp fair point

[@sehajkaler9285]

The development of specialty technologies only makes them cheaper and more practical!

[@dheerajmurthy393]

Yea i think Lamborghini have a better take on this onw with their aero vectoring. This looks impractical.

[@alunesh12345]

@@RR-us2kp Believe in JESUS today, confess and repent of your sins. No one goes to heaven for doing good but by believing in JESUS who died for our sins. GOD loves you soo much unconditionally.🤩❤😍🤗

[@sebastianhjdbejyu]

In the 1970-1980 Porsche had already coupled it kinematically to the suspension, which to this day is more fail-safe than electronic measurements and hydraulics. It was so successful that it was banned in motorsport at the time.

[@joldsaway3489]

Which car? I’m curious to learn more

[@Delimon007]

@@joldsaway3489 Just look up all the banned technologies from motorsports. As you'll see, many of those techs could be used in modern cars but for some odd damn reason is not.

[@ErZocktLP]

@@joldsaway3489 Porsche 908 LH or the early 917 (1969)

[@toximan2008]

@@Delimon007 brabham bt46 🥺

[@mann_idonotreadreplies]

Cool story bro.

[@Diogo-fk3xn]

4:58 SAI DE FRENTE, GUEDES! wasn't at all expecting a Portuguese classic, here

[@kendimen.c]

That big hit from 2011 never gets old :D

[@pilotofjet]

I don't think its about anti-roll, i think it is about generating force towards the inside of the turn, generating in some sense an aerodynamic grip.

[@bananasplease666]

it's definitely more grip focused but i could see there being an anti-roll aspect considering the opposite forces would somewhat even out the weight distribution on tight turns.

[@metadata4255]

it's about looking different and getting attention, both for the buyer at a trackday and for Zenvo on "craziest supercar" listicles. The reason nobody else has a wing like this, is because it doesn't work. A functional active aero system is either adjusting the wing angle (up and down, not rolling the wing) or opening/closing flaps through which air can flow and interact with aerodynamic elements like the diffuser/wing/etc.

[@alunesh12345]

@@bananasplease666 Believe in JESUS today, confess and repent of your sins. No one goes to heaven for doing good but by believing in JESUS who died for our sins. GOD loves you soo much unconditionally.🤩❤😍🤗

[@ACEGAMER120]

Right but his point what that it has a similar effect as anti-roll and when you use downforce to put more load the LR tire during a left hand turn, you also take some load off of the right front wheel which could induce understeer. However, it could still benefit the car if its able to improve the overall attitude of the car in a corner which will depend heavily on how they tune the active aero.

[@DapperHesher]

@@alunesh12345 Heaven was destroyed utterly by The King in Yellow back in 1925. All your gods are consumed and twisting in unrecognizable, multi-dimensional madness. You're reading the wrong scripture.

[@bougieproletariat]

The Pagani huayra bc still has those adjustable flaps on the rear and front. They weren't removed the rear wing was added

[@JoaoDuraes]

4:57 classic portuguese "SAI DA FRENTE GUEDES!"

[@garyhost1830]

This is brilliant, I can definitely see these getting used. Imagine having an active front spoiler to allow more force in the front aswell

[@malachigrey4895]

Pagani right

[@zyh6566]

I still admire the active Aero on the 1990 Mitsubishi GTO/ 3000 . Not to forget about active suspension and 4wheel steering

[@mann_idonotreadreplies]

4 wheel steering on that car suck ass.

[@cmbaileytstc]

I’ve kind of wondered why no cars have a flap on the side to create push towards the inside of the turn.

[@metadata4255]

The Pagani Huayra has two rear and two front aero surfaces which do something similar: kzbin.info/www/bejne/imLdiXZ3hcd9j80 Only car that comes to mind though, and I'm surprised it's not more common.

[@cmbaileytstc]

@@metadata4255 Thanks man!

[@dheerajmurthy393]

Lamborghini aero vectoring does something similar

[@alunesh12345]

@@metadata4255 Believe in JESUS today, confess and repent of your sins. No one goes to heaven for doing good but by believing in JESUS who died for our sins. GOD loves you soo much unconditionally.🤩❤😍🤗

[@metadata4255]

@@alunesh12345 your voice is deep af, unlike your theology HAYOOOO I'll be here all week

[@Kataru.]

The only part not made in house is the infotainment screen, it’s just a iPad Pro, which is pretty clever if you ask me. I don’t know why more manufacturers don’t do that.

[@Adam-de8jm]

because then how will they charge you the price of an iPad pro for the "super ultra infotainment package" that will make the car obsolete and costs them 20$ to make

[@fritzdaddy-135mmgetstagger4]

Because apple products are generally shit

[@adrianwelgemoed9562]

Because when you buy a car you want the whole car in one go. You dont wanna have to buy a bunch of shit separately for it

[@lumityandowlhousefan]

@@adrianwelgemoed9562 they meant pre-installed on the car

[@adrianwelgemoed9562]

@@lumityandowlhousefan well then it makes sense.

[@tawon1984]

2:25 Looks kinda like a Lexus LFA from the back.

[@DiaperSNiFFER]

No way the LFA is more boxy and skinny

[@dshaprin]

0:45 Folding the mirrors or how I like to call it - DRS.

[@pyreaurum676]

Disregarding the potential benefits from shifting the weight balance, it sacrifices overall grip. For racing tires, the coefficient of friction is generally above 1, meaning its more efficient for the wing to push the tires into the ground and let the tires handle the cornering than for the wing to try and generate the necessary inwards turning force.

[@Marz2695]

is theres some source that could explain this in depth?

[@Delimon007]

@@Marz2695 No, this is basic racing knowledge. If you don't understand this then you don't understand basic racing or the dynamics of it. This is the simplest breakdown you're going to get. The tyres can handle everything asked of them, the wing changing the weight shifting would just screw everything up and it also likely would not feel good to the driver who cannot predict what will happen.

[@pyreaurum676]

@@Marz2695 You could probably find more information following some intro physics courses to get an idea of how friction relates to other forces. The more car specific stuff is somewhat covered on youtube channels like Kyle.Engineers and Engineering Explained.

[@pyreaurum676]

@@Delimon007 This is such a poor attitude to go after someone with. Were you born with the knowledge of vehicle dynamics? Everyone has to start somewhere, so there is no point in jumping down someones throat for literally asking for places where they can learn more.

[@Marz2695]

@@pyreaurum676 thank you for answering. I know its basic knowledge that downforce is better in a race car. and sure the cf for a big slick tyre might be >1 but what about superlight road/race cars or motorcycles with skinny tyres? my thinking is that the lighter the vehicle is and smaller the friction from the tyres, the greater benefit you have from sideforces, as the added downforce is not overloading the tyres

[@jakobwhiddon6033]

I really hope this works out well for zenzo I personally think the overall design of there cars are gorgeous so I hope they don’t fade away

[@CountFisco]

The problem with active aero (in racing at least) is that it increases the dirty air effect in the corners, and decreases the slipstream effect on the straights.

[@mann_idonotreadreplies]

Cool story bro.

[@fruitygranulizer540]

i like how you gave us an entire history of active aero and told us everything about the zenvo wing except why it won't catch on...

[@Rippthrough]

Because they're worse than a horizontal wing on anything with reasonable performance tyres on. Angling the wing gives less improvement to cornering than just directing that through some sticky tyres that give you ~120-140kg of grip for every 100kg of downforce. Plus they're heavier, less efficient and can cause stalling issues. Basically it's a one trick pony, it looks fancy, and nothing else.

[@fruitygranulizer540]

@@Rippthrough makes sense

[@a64738]

@@Rippthrough Yes I was just thinking that it it should be more effective to just do it the old way and make more downforce to give grip, and go even faster trough the corners...

[@questionabletaste2700]

"Folding in the mirrors on Your fiesta doesn't count" Whole of London is pissed now 😂

[@redslate]

Is that really a thing? Do they override the controls for the mirror?

[@questionabletaste2700]

@@redslate fiesta boys are desperate

[@Xsidon]

damn! what a great video! very detailed technicaly for a short youtube video and yet i managed to understand everything. you got urself a sub m8

[@Herio7]

Didn't know about Zenvo but love this design.

[@matteooriani9978]

Awesome video! Made my day 👏🏻

[@viggoketelaar7106]

Another Callum video!!!!

[@720MotorWorks]

Very high production for a channel with 90k subs, great video subbed

[@roflchopter11]

4:20 NO! Anti-roll bars don't actually change the steady-state load transfer. This wing does. Edit: yes changing the front or rear ARB without changing the other does move steady-state lateral load transfer forward or rearward, but the total amount is the same. This wing (and things like sharkfins, etc) change the total.

[@Mr.deBest]

420

[@Hyper_drive214]

I had a Zenvo ST1 as my wallpaper back in 2011. A few days ago I finally saw Shmee in his TSR-S. Awesome looking car and to see the Aurora unveiled this week in Monterey really shows their growth. Not a fan of the centripetal wing but it is a clever idea.

[@samueljones3668]

But doesn't the Pagani Huayra act on the same premise ? With its Flaps both front and back ?

[@Mercman1010]

Im not sure what wheel it send the load to but i was infornwd the wing tilts in the corner to maintain more downforce as the wind is traveling sideways over the wing.

[@tiagoLPsporting]

4:56 "Sai da frente Guedes" oh the nostalgia

[@Lamalas]

Great video!

[@ElSpeedo1980]

That was a NICE Fiesta!

[@Emanicas]

Good on them for getting some attention

[@lebomathatho6633]

Any time a P1 is mentioned I just go crazy damn I love that car

[@keith_5584]

They need to take this to the next level. For instance putting “hot wires/Intake air temp,” type sensors on the wing to measure compression (added heat from AAT < IAT), and how much is flowing over each section of surface. They move the wing in an formula to try and learn and increase airflow/reduce the temp being sensed until you want resistance (braking).

[@SMASHGIL]

great video!

[@dudscoconut]

Zenvo just use that wing for handling by tilting the wing by up to 20 degrees, it can move downforce from side to side and increase cornering grip

[@trevorniddrie1088]

Zenvo’s spoiler blew me away when i first saw it 😍

[@Djarra]

In 1968/69 Brabham ran two high wings with this concept. Before the high wings were banned after the 68 Spanish GP. Their system was less dramatic and used cables controlled by the steering, with the wings attached directly to the suspension.

[@rxdom2329]

I think pagani did something like this with the huayra, it has folds on the front that come up at speed, and tilt while cornering, it could be completely different but it seems cool.

[@myswiftracecar]

Well u look great and the Freeway meme was so great 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍

[@OkieDokieSmokie]

I imagine fixing the front downforce with some neat “death race” style knife wings that pop out of the front fender.

[@mondo_stunts27]

That’s cool, thought I had seen it all

[@cb2536]

Move the snow plow from the front bottom to the rear top? Genius !

[@davedarling4316]

The early 917s had moving flaps on their rear wings. They were connected to the rear suspension. The setup was banned because it was not "mounted to the body", and the cars were even less controllable as a result.

[@luislongoria6621]

I find that hard to believe. All 911s have a ballast mounted to the transaxle to increase grip. With a racecar, you just add more weight where it's needed

[@davedarling4316]

@@luislongoria6621 -- Where did you hear that?? There's no ballast in a 911, except for the very very early ones that had a couple of lead weights in the front bumper. Even when 911 racers are forced to add ballast by series rules, they add it in the most central and lowest place possible, generally bolted on top of the passenger side floor.

[@luislongoria6621]

@@davedarling4316 The official explanation was to control vibration, but its mere presence suggests that more weight could be added without violating FIA homologation rules

[@vascomanata]

With the long board fall you showed one of the classic Portuguese memes! "Sai da frente Guedes!" 😂

[@ZoomZoom870atGmail]

I'm just hoping more three-wheeled cars like the Aptera catch on. Being able to have aerodynamics so efficient. It actually doubles your range even for a bigger car is awesome.

[@mtcgaming9738]

Idc my favorite active aero ever on any car is the huayra those front and back flaps 😍😍

[@sirbak3d316]

That Fiesta was hella clean can't even lie

[@alexanderjensen7049]

Hallo from denmark Nice video 🤘

[@peterbennpan7288]

Would be good to see Mclaren bring out a new and improved version of the P1

[@dennismichealsm3786]

That car is discontinued..

[@therainforest4314]

I'm really quite surprised the concept of far more active-airflow-management has not already been developed, considering what Dodge did with their Chargers and Plymouth GTX's over half a century ago. Whether it be applied to racing cars or higher end highway cruisers, this air-management department certainly has a lot of room for further potential development. :)

[@TDCflyer]

There was an aircraft engineer who applied a similar design on a relatively slow experimental glider as means of steering it. He called it vector-steering and on paper its looked like a good idea. The plane crashed and he died. Unsurprisingly we still have conventional steering surfaces on aeroplanes. The main problem was rotating the steering surface around the longitudinal axis of the plane - it was just impossible to move it fast enough to achieve directional stability in turbulent air.

[@machintrucGaming]

Huh ? That's exactly what this video is about... One aileron lowers and the wing go up, and one aileron goes up so the wing goes down... Unless you're talking about a completely different thing were the aircraft tails rotate on itself, in which case is what is the plane called, who's the guy, is there pictures and videos of because that sounds insane and crazy ? Googling vector steering plane just give me png of steering wheels...

[@LarsAgerbk]

So the change in downforce works for the rear wheels but also lifts the front wheels making the car gain grip at the back and loose grip at the front. Does that mean it would need a moveable front splitter, that worked in tandem with the rear wing, for it to work?

[@crtmojo2705]

If! In the future cars become faster and safer and perhaps more autonomous; then I can see control surfaces playing a bigger role in stabilization.

[@guigui70051]

Making downforce on the whole rear will pitch-up the front anyway so I guess any company putting rear downforce just want more traction

[@TeamCGS2005]

Well hats off to Zenvo for making the turbo charger/super charger hybrid mainstream. It's an engineering feat found on only a few specialist sports cars like the Lancia Delta S4.

[@Wargasm54]

I bought one from Zenvo and mounted it on my 2008 Ford Focus. Night and day difference.

[@charleswinter1335]

Hmmm... thinking of the mounting of the movable wing, does it make much difference, it seems to be more of a we did something differently than bring any gains.

[@Mzee1084]

I can't get over how different you look after the shave.

[@williamoverton7775]

how about an internal variable ventricle duct. have a wedge that redirects airflow to the right or left side with steering. after being collected in the grill

[@IhsanMujdeci]

New host is cool. Love the video

[@grandicellichannel]

This is an advanced modern adaptation of what Porsche did in 1968 with their 908 Langhecks that had airfoils that moved up and down depending on the roll of the car linking the machanism to the rear suspensions at each side of the rear wing, where these airfoils were placed. For example, in a right-handed corner, the left airfoil went down to create lift, and it's right partner went up to generate drag and a little amount of downforce, creating a momentum that was supposed to rotate the car in the direction it was moving to.

[@jasoncazeault7776]

Since everyone as for gotten the very first active aero was on the 1936 Genesis Cord 810.... As crank up headlights this reduced drag by putting the ginormous round lights inside those beautiful flowing fenders during day time driving... Genesis is also first car company to have front wheel drive the Cord 810 was equipped with front-wheel drive but not the first one for Genesis who were based out of India

[@heinedenmark]

The last statement 👍 Zenvo got completely new stuff inbound 😉

[@2811JPR]

I appreciate their effort but this simply looks incredibly goofy. Plain and simple. If I was in a position to buy this I'd rather get something more elegant.

[@InformatrIIcks]

Most people that buy those car do it to look better than other rich people. You're saying that if you had that kind of money you wouldn't choose this one, but the people that are ready to spend this much on a car often do it so that they could say "pff, look at that looser with his fixed wing. It's so old, i wonder how anyone can still drive a fixed wing design" even though they probably can't do laps on a racetrack without actually dying

[@qualitycontent5244]

@@InformatrIIcks you dont know anything about people do you? Or ur just mad that it exists. Its not just snobbery,what ur saying is the mindset of Tesla owners,

[@Masterfighterx]

@@InformatrIIcks People buy it because it's different, unique and supports a small rather new company they see potential in, kinda like Koenigsegg.

[@mrtrendizzle]

I contacted Williams (F1 team) back in 2015 discussing an active aero front and rear spoiler for their cars to help improve handling in the corners. My email was passed on to their engineers and i never heard back from them. With strict F1 rules i fully understand a movable spoiler might be against the rules but i have no doubt in my mind this was passed on to several companies as a foot note to development. I did contact Ferrari a few years later with a similar email. It's nice to see people with the money and know-how putting the devices to the test and not slowing on development for safety, speed and handling.

[@tommytan4073]

That fiesta though……. Sweeeet!

[@Player-9]

Gran torismo's tomahawk x is a great concept

[@HebuTheLoneWolf]

6:04 well the simple answer would be weight. having motorized active wing will weight more due to the mechanism compared to simple carbon fixed wing when it comes to racing weight is a big benefactor as well is weight balance

[@Ko0okieeZ]

So what’s the answer to putting most of the weight to the back which causes understeer??? did zenvo just ignore it?

[@bassedboofin]

the zenvo is my dream car

[@rogercorn8320]

I'd argue Pagani did it best, because they also has the individual flaps in the front as well, which would help combat the understeer generated from the rear downforce.

[@perasperas]

Since 1968 Porsche introduced the active rear spoilers in their models 909 Bergspider and 910 Bergspider, being pretty useful in hillclimb races. That year 1968, that system was also used in the new 908 LH for endurance races, continuing on the following year with the same car as on the new 917. However, the results were not very positive in long circuits. FIA also banned the system and from 1970 all moving aerodynamic systems were forbidden.

[@Roberto.Gouveia]

4:57 "Sai da frente Guedes"

[@hambone7777777]

The McLaren Senna has front and rear active aero, w/hydraulic shocks, for the street. Then they went to a big fixed splitter and massive active wing, w/coil over shocks, for the track The latter said to be more predictable, with better weight shift.

[@user-tc7lm9yg3m]

roadandtrack covered this in an article as far as I remember

[@gathel8574]

Is it effective using active aero wings ? I remember this brand Zenvo was completely failure in previous ST1

[@muhammadfathurrahman1761]

The lambo one reminds me of the F Duct which was used in F1

[@theowarmelink7347]

Looks so funny. Leaning against the corners looks strange to me. The other way around would look much better. Probably not effective though.

[@MC-Racing]

it looks backwards, but think of it like a weight hanging from the wing in a bar. then it makes sense, that the weight of the wing is moved towards the inner wheel :-)

[@theowarmelink7347]

@@MC-Racing True

[@silentblackhole]

I like this new presenter. Hope you stick around!

[@Raven-sj8bl]

Im actually from Denmark and i love zenvo❤

[@ossharkuenmeursault5609]

btw, the "more performance oriented versions having more conventional wing for some reason" - the reason is that most motorsports ban active aero

[@bulversteher]

Curious why no one has yet tried to use vertical movable surfaces to directly create aero forces in yaw.

[@redslate]

Exotic aero coupled with a reliable engine sounds like the perfect combo.

[@alunesh12345]

Believe in JESUS today, confess and repent of your sins. No one goes to heaven for doing good but by believing in JESUS who died for our sins. GOD loves you soo much unconditionally.🤩❤😍🤗

[@redslate]

@@alunesh12345 Pretty sure God's not going to turn away good people simply for not believing. That would be a pretty dick move. Also, I imagine they're *much* higher on the entry list than blind evangelicals... Take care!

[@precastsnake3171]

@@alunesh12345 if God wanted you to believe wouldn't he have given more signs than just believing the word of other people

[@MrMannyhw]

Only in use maybe on the track. Might get a advantage on track. Imagine you use this on your regular car on the street.

[@josephschaefer9163]

This looks like it would induce a torque on the whole car opposite of the turn. The wing needs to be centered over the rear axle

[@whiteandnerdytuba]

12 years is a new boy

[@justin4tubes203]

OMG "sai da frente Guedes"!

[@ZKozak-hp5vb]

I was really really paying attention and then I saw the Williams F1 logo :x

[@danielbrealey2924]

This is an interesting concept. If anyone out there has ever driven go karts competitively, they would have noticed that weight distribution is very important when cornering. Allowing weight to load up on the outside rear wheel always got me through corners much faster than if I lent into the corner like a bike (creating more weight on the inside rear tyre) it was much slower, you lost so much grip with the outside tyres- did not translate well into go-karting

[@stinkyarmpitbass6259]

Williams Racing!!💯👍

[@bridgerolson3556]

I want that zenvo wing on my Miata :)

[@killingfields1424]

Only the Countach looks very very cool with wings

[@mattevans4377]

So really, they need a diffuser that can also tilt like that, just in the opposite direction to whatever the wing is?

[@aabidamn]

That dig on the Fiesta. Lol