why thor was weak in endgame

[@LuckY000Y]

They made thor weak because if thor was as strong as he was in infinity war then he could have destroyed Thanos without help of iron man and Captain America so endgame would have never happened.

[@ChiefAlex]

Sure thanos could be him in hand to hand combat but if IW Thor was there he would just do is lightning jump and half of thanos army is dead. From there he would just shoot thanos with lightning and cut off the head this time

[@susposter4174]

The directors actually confirmed that endgame thor is stronger than iw thor

[@Anti056]

Maybe but remember 2014 Thanos is a lot stronger than 2018 in raw strength and the infinity stones were sorta draining Thanos's life in infinity War so Endgame is stronger than Infinity, he also wasn't as old in Endgame so he could've been a lot more mobile

[@Marshkoon]

@@susposter4174 the amount of time I’ve seen this he gets stronger with ages yes but he was mentally unstable depressed and out of shape for 5 years straight the other point of people saying oh he’s been alive for 1500 years is irrelevant because you know nothing of his biology how do you know that 5 years of excessive superhuman drinking will do to him along with depression

[@caske77]

Yeahs that's what I was trying to explain 😂

[@fadilahyendra1122]

"It's just lazy writings" - Deadpool

[@thewolverine8387]

It's not lazy right they know have always been physically stronger and Thor even in the comics.. he physically outmatched Thor in the infinity war so in games would have not been any different..

[@fortnite_memes1781]

It’s a joke for god sake and ain’t you Wolverine? I thought you knew DeadPool liked to joke around

[@Histerdcap]

@@thewolverine8387 seems a whole lot of coping to me.

[@fknmonty]

@@thewolverine8387 yeah but it's not the comics, or else thanos wouldn't need the infinity Stones to beat everyone

[@thewolverine8387]

@@fknmonty he didn't use the infinity to beat Thor.. he beat both Thor and hulk with just his own physical strength and skills alone... The makers of the movie even confirmed this .

[@_____Neo___]

My man lived for 1500 years but was a warrior for thousands, that's the grindset we should all be following

[@manuelrogoz5531]

Exactly! Real motivation here! Screw math!

[@Username-kn1ci]

Fuck maths Be motivated never sleep Work 27 hours a day Grindset

[@Star_Taro]

Lmaoooo

[@kunji529]

He was a child upto 500years then grown up and became a warrior .Hence proved 😁✌️

[@abhinandpaulm8858]

@@Username-kn1ci who count hours when we can count sunrises

[@naz.4713]

They nerfed Thor because Thor would easily beat Thanos if he was fit

[@loudboy317]

They nerfed him in Infinity War as well. Thor had the extra power boost from the Odinforce in Ragnarok but that power suddenly disappears when Thanos boards his ship.

[@abhishek-uf5oo]

@@loudboy317thor didnt unlock odinforce in ragnarok. He just figured out his true potential , that he can grab lightning from the sky without mjolnir with his bare hands and power himself with it

[@mkarthik100]

Read ragnorak event in comics you will regret and sad about thor character development

[@pranjalshelar3830]

​@@loudboy317but in infinity atleast he bounced back

[@loudboy317]

@@pranjalshelar3830 Yeah, but Thor bounced back too late.

[@techngamestamilan5454]

I have heard about ex wife, ex girlfriend but for 1st time in my life hearing a word ex hammer 🤣🤣🤣

[@mancw3162]

Axe*

[@DarrGabb]

@@mancw3162 no? It’s a hammer the axe is not an ‘ex’ weapon of his..

[@King_Marvin]

@@mancw3162 what hi weirdo

[@roberttouthang5818]

Stormbreaker was already mentioned😂

[@yourdad466]

Imagine having your axe which is now your ex. You'd call it Ex-axe

[@manischill3959]

The writers just didnt want the endgame to end in 30 minutes :skull:

[@eidmatanis]

:skull:

[@crankfastle8138]

well that and they dont like the character. anything to make it caps movie.

[@unarmedguy]

💀

[@Lizuya]

thor would honestly blitz the hell out of thanos, obese or not

[@vinaypratap69]

The biggest dissappointment for Thor fans was not in endgame. It was in Thor love and thunder.

[@glacier1034]

True

[@huackeyelvena8449]

that's definitely true

[@jeevans7656]

True asf

[@shadrachkangayelle7183]

False Thor love n thunder was actually quite awesome best movie of the year the fights were awesome the suits were dhp af n storytelling was actually quite good better than captain marvel

[@iamjustwallkingby]

fax

[@angeluvsvid]

they say Asgardians the older they get the more powerful they get he was never weak just mentally broken at the time with depression it seems

[@JosephStalin311]

I think that's the Greek gods that get stronger with age

[@othmanehaldaoui]

@@JosephStalin311 also norse gods.

[@henryshtickdudewithlowerca1942]

Nah thanos claps thor

[@henryshtickdudewithlowerca1942]

Thanos was being goofy if he is serious he would definitely clap thor and odin

[@othmanehaldaoui]

@@henryshtickdudewithlowerca1942 odin?! Are you serious? Odin is fucking op.

[@AxmPlays]

Thor didn’t lose power, he just wasn’t asked to fight, he literally nearly matched Thanos’ strength when he was trying to dig stormbreaker into Thor’s chest. He lost his mental strength but could somehow lift stormbreaker

[@Je-ot5cx]

Stormbreaker isn’t enchanted he can lift it regardless of his condition anybody can lift it just can’t access his power since all the storm breakers power comes from thor

[@AxmPlays]

@@Je-ot5cx Forgot about infinity war? You need to be physically and mentally strong to lift stormbreaker. Also I never said it was enchanted

[@Je-ot5cx]

@@AxmPlays sorry for the late response but no you don’t? I’m saying since stormbreaker isn’t enchanted it doesn’t require anything to lift it. Infinity war didn’t mention any requirements about stormbreaker which explains why anyone can lift it in love and Thunder and in endgame If I’m wrong please tell me the scene where it said you had to be mentally strong enough to lift stormbreaker Also I’m aware you never said stormbreaker isn’t enchanted. But I’m saying since it wasn’t all of thors power was used through the axe so anybody can lift it just can’t do nothing with it since stormbreaker like a conduit to thors power Thor wasn’t mentally strong in infinity war Thor was angry and out for blood specifically Thanos’s for killing his brother Come to think of it he hasn’t been the same right up to Odins death because that’s when it was revealed he didn’t need the hammer

[@AxmPlays]

@@Je-ot5cx “You simply lack the strength to wield them, your bodies would crumble as your minds collapsed into madness.” Thor said to peter quill after he asked Thor why they can’t all have a weapon like stormbreaker the video link is kzbin.info/www/bejne/iqPUdmSrh9-Ed8U

[@Je-ot5cx]

@@AxmPlays If it was actually a thing which I don’t think it is, that would only be if you used it. Stormbreaker is a conduit to thors power so you can’t use it Their minds wouldn’t crumble just by picking it up it simply just doesn’t work that way and gorr picked it up to and her out here killing gods cuz nobody supported him To be honest I think there’s more to it cuz any weapon made there isn’t gonna crumble your mind I think it’s just the mcu classically explaining things wrong

[@Kal-El207]

They disrespected Hulk so bad in the MCU. I can only pray that Wolverine gets a correct adaptation.

[@ryanspurgeon4841]

Was good in ragnorak

[@BodipHat1]

I agree 1000% Hulk should have had some sort of redemption in End Game. I get having Hulk get beat up before but in End Game they should have had a angrier stronger version of the Hulk save Cap, Thor, and Iron Man. Maybe not beat Thanos but give him a good beating. MCU has really ruined Hulk thus far.

[@EMCOTW]

@@BodipHat1 Ik hulk was a GOD in the comics. he fought wolverine warpath and juggernaut and wolverine AT THE SAME TIME and killed them all in the comics. and also in the comics he solos the avengers and throws Gladiator in a nuclear reactor

[@77wolf89]

Hulk is one of the worst characters based off how marvel just OPs the hell out of him. I feel the writers have wrecked that character.@@BodipHat1

[@DaveLaMuse]

They disrespected Hulk giving him a fighting chance with Thor! The Asgardian would wipe the floor with Hulk any other day if only the latter didn't have American origins

[@danielhamilton3496]

I'm depressedfat too Thor. Don't sweat it.

[@Icyjay13]

Sweat it 😅

[@gyrozeppeli4862]

Feeling that lately...

[@epicdreamkid]

Thanos’ goal in infinity war was not to kill, in endgame he was so furious it was more than just kill them, he wanted to rebuild the universe out of blood.

[@collinscollins7777]

same with Thor... he literally chopped off thanos head in front of all the avengers and none of them could say shit... they purposely made Thor weak because no matter if thanos was angry or happy fit Thor would wipe the floor with his guts.. it's still thesame thing in love and thunder... infinity war Thor would literally murder gorr in ten seconds..

[@jeevananthan8278]

​@@collinscollins7777 bro gorr is nerfed so much then hulk😂. One thor can't defeat gorr

[@avengeredits1673]

"To set up a hierarchy" Hawkeye and Spiderman:

[@jonasbrattka2454]

Spiderman is in fact among the strongest characters of Marvel.

[@focuscommitmentandsheerwil9526]

@@jonasbrattka2454 Nice joke🤣🤣🤣

[@InZaynReality]

@@focuscommitmentandsheerwil9526 No really Spidey is one of the strongest in terms of raw strength.

[@tamicktamick912]

@@WalterWhiteY0 not cap, not panther, not q/silver. other characters that you mentioned can also destroy 616 spidey, andrew and tobey, and almost any other spideys, because spiderman is a street level character who can handle fights on even cosmic level, but these are very rare situations, spidey just have the potential to do so

[@yashk7715]

@@jonasbrattka2454 Actually if you see he goes as one of the best characters to be used for the Multiverse Plot And yes because of this the writers can go wham with its character in alt universe at the point to even creating a spider hamster🗿... That said they can even go stronger to create the strongest spiderman Also Spiderman was supposed to be a psychological character who well would have to defeat all the problems from love life to family problems to get into his primes.

[@thebigsteppa1101]

If people was upset with thor being weak imagine how people felt seeing their childhood juggernaut get beat so bad he don’t come out again for entire movie then in the next one HE DOES LITERALLY NOTHING but hand out tacos

[@true2disunew2dis91]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@meme_lover3142]

Bro should’ve aimed for the head 😭

[@dylanziesing6122]

Every shot he took in endgame was for the head, proving that Endgame Thor has the best mindset. He has the full Lightning powers of himself, Mjolnir and Stormbreaker and he’s just as agile as Infinity War Thor. Endgame Thor is the most powerful Thor(at least before Thor love and thunder, haven’t seen it yet)

[@SuperRamtin]

He was!!

[@dylanziesing6122]

@Note I’ve heard, I’ve heard it’s also really funny. It seems like a lot of people like it, and also a lot of people don’t.

[@stan52323]

@Note it is for everybody else that isn't you

[@slyx4104]

@@dylanziesing6122 the movie is good when it’s serious, the only problem is, even if it’s serious, they try to joke or tell a joke every 5 minutes like it’s mandatory. I really hate how much of a joke Zeus is in this movie.

[@Sukuna1.1real]

Best 2 Thor lines: “I told you, you die for that” “I went for the head”

[@chrisochoa5829]

I just love that you called it his ex hammer lol

[@threeonethree2718]

Axe* 🤦‍♂️

[@medeathewitch7560]

@@threeonethree2718lol fym, it’s his ex-hammer, did you even get the joke 😂

[@hunterwinters3739]

Stan Lee said it best. "The winner is who the writer wants to win" doesn't matter how powerful either of them are.

[@wildcardology]

In love and thunder he got fit again to fight properly. Because he learned from his mistakes in endgame

[@junenelson4426]

Love and thunder was even worst than Ragnarok

[@PersonalAccount23]

@@junenelson4426 bruh ragnorok was good and so was L&T u got bad taste.

[@junenelson4426]

@@PersonalAccount23 They were both horrid and I think you are the one with bad taste

[@easylife6348]

@@PersonalAccount23 yea, ragnarok is the best thor movie.

[@matthewwest6039]

“Thahnos”

[@who-ny5oe]

I thought it was funny

[@FrasierOfficial]

Out of all 14,000,605 outcomes Strange saw, Thor didnt go for the head on neither of them

[@Theeducationalboy2525]

Wait I just saw you 3,4 videos ago

[@thedesispermtds4359]

Maybe Thor go for the head a few times, but in that possibility doctor strange was gonna die

[@Natta44]

That's because he's a viking war god, it's in his blood to make his victim suffer first.

[@justadepressedguywithnobi]

Wait yea

[@plantfoodpower77]

No he definitely went for the head one time, just got his ass beat.

[@CitizenoftheWorld1]

I assumed Thor got whooped cause Thanos came prepared. He studied how the Avengers fight through Nebula. That's why he was so confident to take on Thor/Tony/Steve on his own

[@durak4371]

Its more to do with the fact infinity war thanos' goal was to snap and nothing else so all the fighting was only done to reach his goals While in endgame thanos his goal changed to completely destroy the universe The simple way to explain is like comparing u trying to push a child out of the way so u can cross the road vs u actively trying to murder and oblitirate the every living sht out of the kid

[@citrus_yt6850]

“Thor is weak” *me struggling to lift 1g*

[@caske77]

😂

[@CitrusBuilds]

I think it's also because thor was getting another movie whereas Steve and Tony wasn't getting another movie, that was their last movie so they were shown as their best.

[@lawrencel5519]

Thor aint just a depressed fat. He shoulders the blame on failing to save the entire universe. He’s the only one who’s powerful enough to stop Thanos and failed to do so due to just one slight mistake which is not aiming for the head. In fact, Thor did a pretty good job keeping himself intact from the immense mental pressure.

[@jonathansdreamland1207]

And also he turned that Dad bod into a god bod

[@GyroZeppeli8787]

This guy:he lives for 1500 years Also this guy:he fought for thousands of years

[@alltheworldsastage4785]

Lol.

[@PoisonJarl71501]

Gotta love it lol

[@hamilton_podcast]

That's a very SMART way of saying that the Writers were just LAZY af to NOT consider this matter inside their HEAD...

[@pickysaw]

That doesn't explain why thor was weak. It just explained why thanos was stronger

[@Sayedkumail]

Because Thor wasn't weak in Endgame, If he had said that, Thor fans would have attacked him

[@huackeyelvena8449]

I always love thor and always sees the best in him, didn't even get a bit of disappointment in fact i idolized him the most when he saw his mom and cried then gets back to fight again with full of courage after having an advice to the most wise person in Asgard, yep his mom.

[@shinsuorain3595]

I always thought it was that 2014 thanos was physically stronger than his infinity gauntlet counterpart since he wasn’t being weakened by the gamma radiation and Strain the stones put on him

[@michylmagdaleno6421]

No because the stones dont actually put a strain or release gamma radiation when theyre in the gauntlet. The only time thanos got hurt by the stones is when he used the stones to drstroy the stones. The energy blast nearly killed him. The gauntlet acts as a catalyst for all the energy it doesnt harm the wearer

[@mfngeez]

It was to show that infinity war he wasn’t tryna kill them..he was puttin his energy twds gettin the stones and snapping his fingers. In end game he was mad he wanted to kill them that’s why he had all bis armor his weapon. This was said by marvel if or some one close. It was simply him puttin more intent on hurting them and we all knw Thor was moping and sulking.

[@mongooseunleashed]

They didn't add the gamma crap until Endgame and even then, they also forgot Hulk can ABSORB gamma radiation.

[@Warlord-dc5un]

The only difference is that in infinity war thanos was merciful and didn't use lethal force unless necessary while 2014 was more brutal.

[@Ev01v3d]

@@mongooseunleashed ok? And our skin can absorb sunlight, but too much and we get a burn or skin cancer.

[@MisterDemonTC]

one theory i've seen is that Thanos was holding back in Infinity War, but Endgame he didn't need to. i don't quite remember it but it went somewhere along the lines of: Infinity War he only wanted to delete half the universe and wanted to be fair(the genocide "at random" line when talking to Strange), so he only killed when he had to. He wanted to stones to select the ones that died. End Game he wanted to delete everything and rebuild it, so it didn't really matter and didn't need to hold back.

[@Diken5432]

Thanos wasnt aware of thor in infinity war but In endgame nebula gave all knowledge about avangers so thanos was prepared

[@AxmPlays]

Mate he was well aware, he fucking killed his brother, heimdall and half of the asgardians, he knew Thor would eventually try to attack him

[@Diken5432]

@@AxmPlays but he thought he cut the dwarfs so they cannot make another artifact but thor made stormbreaker thats what I want to say He wasnt aware of STORMFCKNBREAKER

[@AxmPlays]

@@Diken5432 Obviously he wasn’t aware of stormbreaker’s existence, but he knew Thor would go after him sometime soon with a weapon

[@Diken5432]

@@AxmPlays nope I just told you what russo brothers said about it… Thats why thanos slaughtered dwarfs so they cannot make another object like gauntlet cus the material of gauntlet same as the material of stormbreaker’s axe so when thanos directs a beam from gauntlet stormbreaker suppresses it Didnt u listen the story from peter dinklage What the movie again if u didnt…

[@AxmPlays]

@@Diken5432 Mate eitri is the last of it all the other dwarves died in 2015

[@GrubKiller436]

It's all about having characters cave in to the plot no matter how ridiculously illogical it is.

[@codgaming7144]

I do think he’s a lot stronger in love and thunder , he has a more understanding of his power the older he becomes the more powerful he is

[@isiahrobinson6421]

But still needed Jane to help him. 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@ethegoat6915]

Fr I noticed that when Gorr almost slit his throat on their first fight, that’s when I realize Thor is really really powerful and wouldn’t die that easily

[@othmanehaldaoui]

Nah, he was weak, he was still depending on a weapon to summon lightning, he lost stormbreaker, then he had to use thunderbolt. And in the finale battle, he didn't even use his own lightning, he used zeus's from the weapon. In my opinion, the most powerful version of mcu thor so far is in ragnarok, not infinity war and not love and thunder.

[@Justrandomvideos-2023]

Depression on losing almost everything in his life 😪

[@epicmusic7918]

Listen he wasn't weak because of his psych. It's because he was Depressed.

[@angeluvsvid]

exactly

[@thewolverine8387]

But what people also feel to understand is that they know it's always been physically stronger than Thor I don't know why people are overlooking that.. he was physically outmatched in the beginning of the infinity war..

[@crankfastle8138]

​@@thewolverine8387he had the power stone then. he was already jacked.

[@thewolverine8387]

@@crankfastle8138 it was already stated that he didn't use the power Stone to beat both thor or hulk... Even in the second fight he physically outmatched Thor... They know it's always been a villain that was stronger than Thor...

[@mmltpb14]

It’s crazy how they explain these things and people just wanna ignore the writers explanation

[@animadoarts5123]

All those who says he is weak. He is not. Actual fact is : He was never stronger than Thanos...even with strombreaker... Strombreaker no doubt is a powerful weapon. Which could have killed thanos. But thor let just say wasn't as experienced as Thanos. Even russo bros confirmed that....he caught thanos off guard in wakanda and hence was able to bring out purple juice from his chest.

[@dredaylarue]

And also at the beginning of the movie Thor was laid out nobody else could have done that but Thanos Just like thor is more skill in battle than the Hulk thanos was just more skill in battle than both of them

[@NexusGameEnt]

It was the simple despair of being able to kill someone but not change a thing.

[@SpiderHolland]

"Ex-hammer"

[@edithgamer7917]

The reason is thor got feared by thanos we all need to agree that thor is not fearless when thor came to wakanda he says bring me thanos at that time thor doesn't have fear only vengeance after the snap when thor killed thanos then also he couldn't reverse what thanos did thor got depressed and even he is 1500 year old this type of situation he never faced that worse all worse happen to thor in just 2 days In only two days he lost father homeworld people friennds loki so thor got feared when he saw thanos in endgame and didn't rush to fight thanos alone he is just standing in front of thanos until cap and iron man comes

[@patsnation4094]

The way he said Thanos lmao ... 🤣 tha-nos

[@onesaitama5156]

He is not wrong. Tha-nos and Than-os both correct.

[@durak4371]

Im pretty sure in those 1500 years thor was never this close to his lowest point I mean he lost everything he loved, he lost the meaning, the motivation to fight, he lost the meaning to stay in shape, he lost the meaning to everything, life feels pointless to him, i mean he only joined hulk and rocket cuz they promised beer This is the most realistic representation of what will happen if even the strongest man(physically and mentally) loses literally everything, alchohol, videogames aka all the thing that give even the slightest bit of meaning to a meaningless life

[@ZohairAhmedR]

*THAANOS* 👍

[@DailyHacksAlpha]

Thor in wonderland.. no other god killing saving scenes..

[@Drambo_69]

Thor wasn’t weak He was just giving Thanos a little power so he doesn’t feel bad

[@zam6877]

Um no, they were showing his humanity... ...it is what made this series so good

[@beelze4405]

Bruh...just stay at one room for a week or two doing nothing only playing games while drinking...u will feel a lot weaker...and ur stamina will go down...

[@mandeepkumarray9050]

The fact that he thinks he is unworthy to be the savior of his people tells a lot about him, it's after meeting with his mother that he decides to fight for the right and even though he acts as an idiot . Thor Ragnarok made it clear he's way stronger then he thinks he is.

[@Lucci136]

He is not a human

[@DonsStudios]

If a bodybuilder stops lifting for even 1 month, they will lose a lot of muscle mass and get weaker. Talking from experience, if someone knows how to fight and doesn't do it in a while, they will get rusty. Thor wasn't weak due to this "hierarchy" it was depression

[@maxthebabe]

The directors said themselves that's the strongest potential he had

[@adolfogarzachaires394]

I like to think Thor lost to Thanos cus he not only felt like a disappointment after IW, but was a bit scared of facing Thanos again after failing 2 times against him in IW

[@TheDeathmail]

Thor wasn't weak, Thanos was just strong...

[@victorgasper]

no.thor was stronger in inifinity war but weak in endgame

[@MShenanigans]

Thanos when Thor throws Stormbreaker: *Random bullshit, go!*

[@ronjacob9242]

Its always meant that Thanos is more stronger than Thor. Even in the comics, Thanos defeated him.

[@MrChampion2024]

In live-Action , no Comics, Yes Thor is way more powerfull in live Action

[@coreywilson8161]

@@MrChampion2024 yes live action

[@coreywilson8161]

@@MrChampion2024 no he's not more powerful In live action

[@MrChampion2024]

@@coreywilson8161 Well Thor’s stormbreaker is VERY strong, it can resist (with the help of Thor’s lightning)the power of all 6 stones

[@MrChampion2024]

@@coreywilson8161 and lightning is VERY strong +Thor has way more fighting expirience

[@tap9655]

this is exactly the same with edward norton's hulk, if they used norton's hulk, thanos would be crushed in the 1v1 in infinity war and endgame would have never happened, thats why nerfs can be useful sometimes.

[@lenix6320]

Bruh wouldn’t thanos look more powerful if he was shown to be able to beat Thor at his full power-

[@ichbinsooocoollul6860]

He was more powerful than before because he had 2 weapons and 2 teammates

[@lenix6320]

@@ichbinsooocoollul6860 but his physical and mental were weak

[@drabyz1729]

Thanos was absolutely going all out in endgame while he didn't want any unnecessary deaths in infinity war because he wanted who died and lived left entirely up to the snap.

[@rayyan5347]

WOW

[@nickdibart]

Both are true. The writers needed to power down Thor a bit, and his story arc is how they went about it. With All Thor has been through leading up to and including Infinity War, it's no wonder he was depressed. I think his character was written well for the most part.

[@melwinchacko6515]

My man was an awakened beast in infinity war 💀. I can only think of him being depressed and unhealthy as the reason he was nerfed. Or else he would destroy thanos in a couple of minutes 😂

[@jacobboyle9868]

It also was to show how powerful Captain Marvel is, even though Thor should be more powerful.

[@thatguyspectre5871]

Source: trust me bro

[@Dunno683]

It's his opinion

[@Dunno683]

Nobody is saying this is true fact

[@egglavator]

Endgame Thor was the most accurate looking to Norse mythology.

[@MAHIRUTU-07]

First like and first comment

[@spawncampe]

Let's paint a scenario where an NBA superstar has been great since he was a rookie and he's in his prime, and he's been practicing srsly since he was like 7yrs old. Then suddenly stops playing for several months, doesn't even workout or touch a basketball for those months, then suddenly plays a game against one of his biggesr rivals who's been practicing consistently, you can't expect that guy to win after months without practicing, even if he has the better legacy

[@addictiontransfer3731]

It sounds like you're excusing an error in the writing/logical consistency within the script, by explaining why it was convenient for the writers. Thor turning into a fat depressed sad-sack of shit wasn't just lamn because people didn't like an emasculated pathetic version of Thor, people didn't like it because it makes very little sense for his character to have become that. It's incredably jarring and hard for much of the audience to believe that this 1500 year old warrior alien would devolve into an anxiety-ridden undisciplined goofball when he had the remander of his people to care for. He had already been through 3 movies where his arc was learning that he needed to take responsibility as a leader and not let set-backs destroy his resolve and self confidence. Thor is constantly reset as if he has learned nothing from the experiences in the previous films, like none of it ever happened. The MCU turned what was once a very competent and stalwart character into a complete joke, and even in Thor Love and Thunder he has reverted back to a pathetic caricature of himself. Just an absolute idiot that allows his own hubris and incompetence to put other people in danger. Instead of jaded, battlehardened, seasoned, intellegent warrior that's an awesome specimen of positive masculinity, Thor is now a blubbering, utterly incompetent nervous wreck, all so the writers can insert more jokes every ten minutes with his stupidity as the punchline. Bravo.

[@venize3050]

I have felt this since Thor Ragnarok. Don’t get me wrong, Ragnarok was amazing. But damnn, it’s just like you said. This character keeps learning lessons, and acquiring or discovering more power and we haven’t gotten to see this growth. Thor at first was a god like being whose alien nature and almost OP level offered enough comedic relief at times. Now he’s just straight up dumb…

[@addictiontransfer3731]

@@venize3050 yep. can you imagine how awesome it would have been if we got rage-driven angry dark thor after infinity war, like how he was when he finally killed thanos? Instead the writers were like "na that wouldnt be funny, lets make him fat!!! lul"... not only was it a missed opportunity but it would have made a whole heck of a lot more sense. and youre absolutely right, it started in ragnorak, but was overlooked because that movie was so entertaining.

[@revanes6979]

I agree with both of you

[@jessewarren7954]

The directors literally talked about this. He wasn’t weak and it had nothing to do with hierarchy of power. Thor was strong enough to take on Thanos and beat him, especially with storm breaker and without Thanos having all the stones. The reason he appeared weak was because he had no faith in himself. In his mind he had failed over and over and everyone he loved was dying. He didn’t think he was strong enough but he indeed was. Two other characters also stood against Thanos and were more powerful than him. Marvel and Scarlet Witch. Thanos was outmatched in pure power but he had an army and knew once he had the stones it was over

[@_Ryuzaki...]

H in infinity war Thanos intention was never to kill anyone he just wanted to snap and when Thor suddenly arrived he was not supposed by Thanos with a powerful weapon like stormbreaker so Thanos didn't use all power of infinity gauntlet understand while in Endgame, he knew his future after snap so his intentions were changed so he wanted stones at any cost and that's because of his dangerous intention everyone got beaten by him like a dog even Thor. Thor was not weak on that time Thanos was more dangerous on that time that's why he defeated MCU Trinity easily. Fun fact: Captain surprised him by holding mjolnir and gave him a good fight bcz Thanos had no idea about that could be possible too.

[@Mhyko380]

Infinity was the best movie in marvel because it shows the tragedy of the all the heroes losing for once

[@joffles6516]

The worst part about endgame is right after the bombing, thanks was just sitting there with Thor watching, with six infinity stones thanos didn’t stop his axe(he could have, he just didn’t expect it to get through what he did) so it is so stupid that Thor didn’t just throw the axe at him from where he was and thanos didn’t have his helmet on either. I don’t think that helmet could stop the axe but even if it could he didn’t have it on yet.

[@youngwang97]

Thor lost his mother, brother, father, Mjolnir, his home, brother again, was responsible for half of all life disappearing, and lost his mother again. There's a reason he was overjoyed when he realized he's still worthy

[@T0nite]

I think the main reason why everyone was getting bodies In endgame by thanos was because he wasn’t holding back, he was out for blood. In infinity war, he only wanted to bring balance to the universe. In endgame, he saw how earth reacted to the snap and saw them unfit to live and wanted to snap them out of existence entirely

[@ponchopalito3953]

People need to understand that both are different thanos especially on power level the one in infinity war is slowly getting weaker remember when hulk used those stone it almost lost he's arm same goes to thanos the more he used those stone the more it gives toll on him while the one in endgame he never used those stone so he's in full power on that time. Thor was strong it's just thanos is more like in he's prime state on endgame simple as that.💯👍

[@Corprus7]

Take a shot every time this man says 'Thanos'

[@yanecphilipp3354]

He was OP in Infinity War and the directors didn't want the same kind of story in Endgame.

[@oneofgodschildren8361]

Those super strong pressure point strikes Miss the Hulk up

[@younggod2525]

The simplest answer is that Thor was mentally not stable !! Mental strength is really important even for the gods! Remember the fight he had with hella? He was about to lose because he wasn’t sure that he has the power to defeat her. Odin reminded him and the push he got because of his fathers motivation truly unlocked his full potential at that moment! Same goes when he fought during infinity war. His brother died His people died He was just going for the kill. All he had on his mind was revenge and that really made him powerful.

[@waafflethepotato4698]

Orrr man lost his brother, then was slowly losing his friends during battles.

[@brandonharden1964]

Man he did come in hard asf all lightning flowing shit was dope asf an I like how black panther came into play for a bit

[@florjankelmendi3498]

Being very fat and depressed was a major factor not to mention but one thing that wasn’t mentioned is the main reason why Thor was losing was because in endgame he didn’t use lightning in the fight he just kept swinging at Thanos head with rage the reason why he didn’t use lightning blasts is because lightning is sloppy and destructive he didn’t wanna risk hurting cap or damaging iron man’s armor he wanted to get it done quickly

[@justineneartv5685]

Cmon man because they all came back, each hero need exposure

[@Rip_JahCraft]

This so simple i fail to understand how fail to realize how simple this directing is

[@UnexpectingDuck]

Also thanos in infinity war wasn’t trying, he was doing the bare minimum to stop the avengers without killing them. 2014 thanos realized that wouldn’t work and went 100%

[@wh0_odat644]

Thor has never truly been on par w Thanos. It is what it is

[@ray1ashwin]

thor doesn't get weak with age,he gets stronger as he ages

[@joshuaking3731]

He was weak because of his depression. You said it, he lived for 1500 years. For about 1490 of those years, he lived like a frat boy. Arrogant and prideful without any real hardships. Then in roughly a decade he lost his powers, lost his mother, lost his father, lost his hammer again, learned about his sister then killed her by sacrificing his homeland, lost half his people, lost his best friend, lost his brother, then failed to kill Thanos before he wiped out half of the universe. He was not in the best mind space for a final climactic battle, yet he fought it anyway.

[@christophergaither2032]

Fat Thor in the comics was actually OP

[@ultimateleader8646]

In endgame thanos was angry since he realized that human did not accept his victory by half population wipe out. So in end game thanos was fighting with intention to kill evryone. Whereas, in infinity war his objective was to wipe out half of the population.

[@Stopinvadingmyhardware]

He was weak because he didn’t have Asgardian Mead which was magical.

[@xtxerm4101]

It was bc Thor stopped trying his depression made him unable to fight at full power bc he thought he couldn’t do and he had nothing else to keep him going

[@garyhooper4424]

Because that's how Thor is normally portrayed against Thanos. Thor around the infinity watch era was in Warriors madness and has the power stone and was beat by Thanos. The same Thanos that tanked a god blast from Odin and sent Galactus flying. One shotting Silver Surfer Beating up on the Avangers on the regular. He has once or twice had a seat at the table with abstracts.

[@lolsports5615]

The only mistake in avengers is they’re always confused to whom is the strongest

[@christophermallory3400]

In the comics, the avengers, even Thor lay dead at Thanos feet. Can't remember the number, but it's the cover

[@skibidicommenterr]

“Thor always holds back”

[@dominicbuck3744]

This guy said “becauze plot armor” and was right

[@Y0G0FU]

Well Thors Mindset plays a Big role. The Asgardians seem to be only as strong as their spirit and Thor was clearly depressed and not in any kind of fortified Warrior mentality.

[@DeanWinchester12345]

And wanda casually destroys Thanos sword and lift him up in the air, proceeds to tear Thanos apart 😂😂

[@tarun5845]

They did dirty with thor and Hulk

[@walterliggins3619]

Your exactly right except for one thing they used it to show how powerful they made captain marvel. To emphasize how the most powerful character they have is female. Which they didn't need to do because they already have Wanda.