Film Theory: Thanos Tried to Save Us, and Eternals PROVES IT!

[@ChippyGaming]

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[@griff1240]

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[@dancmill]

Trueee

[@finalistburrito2499]

Couches are awesome! :)

[@klism]

lol

[@captainrick4513]

Nice to see a youtuber from a specific topic/genre in another area. It's like seeing a DnD player at a Star Wars movie.

[@hahathatsawesome123]

Also to add onto this I remember him talking to Tony saying “you’re not the only cursed with knowledge” which we could make a case for him knowing what happens and doesn’t want to share it. Just like Tony seeing a vision of everyone dying, but he doesn’t share it until Endgame when he talks to everyone at beginning of the movie explaining that they can’t win.

[@caloreen1992]

Exactly what came to mind for me.

[@joseph-sm5hk]

there’s also the fact that if thanos said he was there to stop the celestial it’s possible that the other eternals could’ve gotten involved which would be a hard time for him

[@arcallium]

Regarding Strange's "one win" outcome from his vision, I think may have seen the Earth hatch. He doesn't want humanity gone or the world in darkness though, so he opted for the next best thing: delaying it so we can possibly deal with both of those eventually.

[@hexum7]

That.... or Eternals hadn’t even been thought of when Endgame was being produced, and the scripts have nothing to do with each other

[@Warrenoh]

@@hexum7 they literally have decades of comics to pull from

[@Acoustic_Screecher]

@@hexum7 no offense but u gotta work on ur spelling

[@jacobmanchenton3901]

Or strange probably saw that it had to happen or the tva would step in and prune them all so idk

[@poshorange6757]

@@Acoustic_Screecher his spelling is good he just probably rush-typed the reply seeing as his O’s become I’s because it’s right next to each other on the keyboard

[@OXfootballshorts]

*"Maybe I treated you too harshly"*

[@truthoftheuniverse4179]

the avengers will look like assess went they find the truth

[@luckyducky9669]

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[@yingtyson4493]

An interesting note is that Thanos also snapped away half the entire UNIVERSE's population, not just earth, meaning he was also stopping other celestials from "emerging". He nearly saved countless planets across the universe.

[@NinjofNature]

yES WHY ARE THE COMMENTS SAYING HE WAS RIGHT THAT IS SO DUMB

[@godemperorofmankind3.091]

he didnt save anything. the celestials need to emerge. its necessary for balance and the creation of new stars

[@silenthermit4637]

He didn't save those planets, he only delayed their destruction.

[@TheF1nalRulér]

@@godemperorofmankind3.091 Are you fvckin blind? What about existence huh? So the Celestials sacrificing each other for the existence of living things just like when pawns sacrificing their king in a chess game?

[@godemperorofmankind3.091]

@@TheF1nalRulér are you really trying to lecture me about how evil celestials supposedly are, while defending and making excuses for goddamn thanos?

[@EvieOConnorxoxo]

The fact that there was eternals on Titan at all means there was definitely a celestial in it's core. And I've always felt odd about the way Titan was described. This explanation just makes so much more sense. It's all I've been thinking since I saw the film.

[@pokejedi5184]

I mean, yeah. Aeros = Thanos' Brother. Thanos = Lived on Titan. Aeros = Eternal. Therefore, Thanos = Eternal. Therefore, Titan = Celestial Host. It makes quite a lot of sense, tbh. If Thanos found or made a ship to get off titan, it is definitely possible too. But the only question is: What was Thanos' power?

[@lolirot6031]

@@pokejedi5184 his power differs from books to movies. In the books Thanos has superhuman strength, God like speed, agility and invulnerability. He is suppose to be immortal and is a genius. He also has energy projection capabilities, and much more.

[@Hhhh22222-w]

@@lolirot6031 they had to nerf them, when the authors were basically having a power jack-off competition to compete with DC powerscaling

[@fewntug3760]

@@pokejedi5184 maybe he did have eye beams like in the comics and was similar to Ikaris but hideous.. and maybe he found someone similar to Sersi to give him the Sprite treatment, which removed his powers? Idk.. Him being an Eternal makes things super hard to follow now lol

[@porkchopsensei2742]

@@pokejedi5184 Strictly speaking, Eros never says he's an Eternal in the Post-Credits Scene. He just says he's Thanos's brother. We'll have to wait and see if it is confirmed either way, maybe in GotG 3 or whenever Eros next shows up.

[@ShortHax]

It’s sad how Thanos won millions of times. But the Avenger only won once and it was enough

[@osmosisjones4912]

The Eternals waking saving earth was the secret time line sense the TVA was Founded on earth in 31th century

[@sunofabob]

Like Dom said. By an inch or a mile.

[@loganwoods1590]

You just perfectly explained Dark Souls

[@AnInsideJoke]

Not really. Him "saving" worlds by brutally murdering at least half of the population puts him no better than the whole Deviants/Eternals/Celestilas created conflict (which was specifically pointed out to be in a morally grey area) or the Celestials' parasitism of entire planets of sentient beings (because that's what it truly is once you strip away the mysticism and the whole god idea--they create life and galaxies and planets, yes, but those planets are often used to incubate the next generation of Celestials, making their actions very self-serving, and the way said unborn Celestials leech off of the "energy of sentient beings" before violently bursting out and destroying the host planet is 100% parasitic, and very similar to that wasp that lays it's eggs inside tarantulas). Plus, his solution is very temporary, eventually the population will start to climb again.

[@ianlister7333]

its also intersting that Doctor Strange, never looked further ahead of time, beyond the simple undoing of the snap.

[@sypherd.3771]

Another theory as to why Thanos used the resources explanation could be because he already tried the real explanation on Titan and everyone thought he was crazy and it didn’t work.

[@memenashedi919]

Good theory but it does not work actually, because it is clearly established in infinity war that no matter what are the circumstances, Thanos does not lie about anything, he just says what is the truth according to him.

[@Patsfan79]

@@memenashedi919majority of the time thanos doesn’t lie but how about the Eetrie guy? Thanos said make the weapon and everyone will survive, but instead he killed all but Eitri

[@yzxz9012]

​@@memenashedi919thanks not lying never makes 0 sense😂

[@alfonsotovar895]

In Avengers Endgame, Thanos said he was going to get rid of everyone in the universe and make a new universe. This is just an interesting detail I wanted to add in because this means he either wanted to delay the emergence entirely or he just didn’t know about the celestials and just cared about having a better universe.

[@racool911]

Yea it's like "You don't want me halving you to save the world? Fine I'll take out all of you to sop the emergence and make a population I can control!"

[@christianemerson4622]

He didn't say he was going to get rid of everyone, nor was he going to create a new universe. I don't remember the exact quote, but he said he'd snuff out half of all life, and retire; watching the sun rise on a grateful universe

[@basicsimp8798]

Except the Eternals and Celestials are unaffected by the Snap of Infinity Stone. Thanos was literally just crazy.

[@christianemerson4622]

@@slimerewoods5766 That was Endgame Thanos, not ours.

[@naimac1015]

Which in turn makes me wonder … since supposedly he didn’t know the existence of Celestials creating galaxies and of Null; would Thanos re-creating the Universe void their existence and their battle as well.

[@dannod9961]

This actually makes sense cause when thanos had a conversation with tony he said “you’re not the only one cursed with knowledge”

[@codex988]

True

[@PBJG5]

Keyword "Cursed"

[@luciddream5055]

Ahhhhh now it really makes sense !!

[@Marshall_Jones]

Thanos did tell Tony, “You’re not the only one cursed with knowledge.” So I buy the theory about him knowing.

[@strangefungus2093]

Stolen comment but alr

[@Garry2527]

indeed

[@Marshall_Jones]

@@strangefungus2093 stolen from where? I’m literally quoting a movie that millions of people have seen.

[@Marshall_Jones]

@@strangefungus2093 Because it’s a literal quote from the movie…. Are you saying I should’ve read through all 8000 comments before commenting in case I said a sentence that one of the other 8 billion people on the planet have said before? Get over yourself, troll.

[@mochiyeosang1908]

@@strangefungus2093 yeah, thats kind of how quotes work...

[@brettcramer47]

You may have nailed it with this one. Looking over how the MCU is playing out with the introduction of celestials, venom in the MCU, and Gorr the GodButcher, I think Knull is going to come sooner than Kang the conqueror. I am kind of hoping that MCU does two separate story archs that lead to both these villains, which will ultimately build up to someone huge like Galactus or Annailis or Doctor Doom or someone else. I am not sure. But man, this is the best theory I’ve ever seen. Well done.

[@lokenontherange]

Kang already showed up

[@matthiasjanzen4621]

@@lokenontherange he wasnt Kang!

[@godemperorofmankind3.091]

no he was horrifically wrong and so are you for saying hes right. thanos would have to be a braindead idiot to go about "saving Earth" in this way.

[@sameersingh9929]

@@matthiasjanzen4621 kang is the new big bad confirmed

[@Inebriated_Goat]

Lmao aged like fine milk

[@LocalMaple]

What’s the chance that Galactus will be introduced as an eater of Celestial embryos? He does eat planets, but he is trying to eat or absorb Celestial energy.

[@EungsuLee]

EARTH X BABY!!!

[@alpha9wolf671]

You know that would make the whole planet eating thing make so much more sense

[@NobleRaider2747]

That's just Earth X lol

[@colovick]

@@alpha9wolf671 it all makes sense if you relate everything together just right

[@albumkosong]

So galactus is bad then?

[@mrshib8460]

"Why are you booing, I'm right" is a meme that basically sums up the entire thing

[@the_random12345]

Yeah

[@Walrus5]

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[@the_random12345]

@@Walrus5 yeah

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[@toainsully]

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[@DJZZ__]

Theory: It wasn't thanos, it was Doctor Strange, since he could have stopped Thanos by not giving the time stone but did so which allowed for 5 years to go by and let Ajax think on why humanity was worth saving. Doctor Strange saw that if they won, 1 week later the earth was doomed anyway so by allowing 5 years to go buy with half the planet gone it let Ajax change her worldview.

[@ShadowPhoenix82]

Someone else said the same thing about that one win Strange saw. It's not only one way Earth's heroes beat Thanos. It was only one way Earth endured.

[@zacyquack]

It wasn’t one week. It seems to have been months since the snap at least in eternals

[@DJZZ__]

@@zacyquack How long after the snap does FATWS take place because these plots happen at the same time. genuine question btw sorry if it sounded pretentious

[@noyoucant8862]

@@DJZZ__ The Phase 4 timeline goes like this following Endgame: WandaVision (1-2 weeks after Endgame) FATWS and and Shang-Chi (Both April 2024) Far From Home (Summer 2024) Eternals (Fall 2024) No Way Home and Hawkeye (Winter 2024)

[@bashengatheblackmanta7003]

@@DJZZ__ here's the timeline after endgame so far : -Wandavision (6 weeks after endgame) -falcon and the winter soldier (6months after endgame) -shang-chi(April 2024) -far from home(8months after endgame, which makes it 2024) -venom post credit scene -no way home (few days after far from home) -the eternals

[@reksceasar6764]

Like what Thanos said to ironman. "You too are cursed with knowledge."

[@hm.hm.788]

Maybe that’s why he said to Stark (ie; Iron Man): “You’re not the only one cursed with knowledge” probably because he saw some type of catastrophe, as Iron Man was scared losing half the population, Thanos was scared to lose many worlds.

[@basicsimp8798]

To be fair, Celestial are the creators of multiple life, so stoping the Emergency would also stop the creation of countless new life.

[@legendarytronic7774]

@@basicsimp8798 Yeah but for a Celestial to be born they are gonna destroy life to be brought to life?

[@F8Beast]

@@legendarytronic7774 Trading a planet for millions or billions more sounds good to me

[@legendarytronic7774]

@@F8Beast Doesn't mean it's right. Plus it's the earth.

[@F8Beast]

@@legendarytronic7774 It's right imo. Sacrificing one insignificant world in the vast universe for million or billions more sounds good to me

[@TheRealReVeLaTioN]

As Thanos told Stark: “you’re not the only one cursed with knowledge”

[@Onaterdem]

Holy sh*t everything is making sense now

[@maxgoldstein6309]

Trueeee

[@shinkounova8485]

Why didn't Thanos just snap the Celestials away?

[@DeltaSanz]

@@shinkounova8485 you have a point

[@dsb_dinesh8413]

@@shinkounova8485 celestials are older and more powerful than infinity stones.

[@budderballistaishere7845]

This certainly is a solid counter to “why not double the resources”

[@jacobweatherford4696]

Exactly it would have sped up tiemats birth

[@samlasalle3853]

Yeah, the problem was never "not enough resources" it was always "too much intelligent life", Thanos just wasn't able to articulate it or didn't fully understand what he was trying to stop. Also, Thanos is the "mad titan" and the disease eternals can get is "madweary", both are called "mad"...

[@foozle1up9]

Idk if "why not double" was even a logical counter. Matpat did theory on that before ig.

[@dinossauroancetral5158]

@@jacobweatherford4696 990

[@jacobweatherford4696]

@@foozle1up9 yesh but now we know if he doubled the resources a gods birth would have happened and blew up the planet.

[@manic221]

I really liked the Eternals but I think it is very high concept to fit into 2 and half hours I'd have liked more time with them in the ancient civilisations. - I think that this movie will actually get better retroactively with sequels and mentions in future movies.

[@DelphanGruss]

I mean - I feel like Thanos not mentioning the Celestials was so he didn't get stomped BY the Celestials. After all, we saw at the end of Eternals that the Celestials can just roll up on a planet and effortlessly 'yoink' people if they interfere in Celestial business. So Thanos indirectly sabotaging the Celestials without directly targeting them seems very on-point. Would also explain why he's so frustrated about people not perceiving his grand vision, because he is trying to use incomplete data to get them to understand.

[@iffahnurdian]

just imagine a Celestial's wrath. The largest power generators in the entire universe (from what one of the Eternals said) being pissed at someone for stopping another one of their kind's emergence

[@lbt9634]

Hmmmmmm

[@tnty1561]

So, if we were to be in Thanos's shoes, it would be like trying to tell a deaf person how to hear?

[@themanonwheels.1890]

@@tnty1561 not how to hear but like rather trying to explain something verbally to someone who can't hear at all.

[@charliewebb7812]

I think if thanos had the gauntlet he could take a celestial

[@anthill223]

I''d also like to metion the fact, that at the end up venom: let there be carnage. Eddy ask venom "where do you come from and what's your purpose?" as venom responds with " I couldn't tell you, you're tiny human brain isn't ready to comprehend it". I thought it was a cheap throw away line, but going off Mat's theory, it would make a little more sense venom not telling eddy as the preverse lore around him, the symboites, null and his battle with the eternals WOULD blow his mind.

[@abrammedrano4392]

So the eternals are beefing with the symboites?

[@khrinalekill-thebloodspira2531]

@@abrammedrano4392 nah not really what happened was that the symbiotes were created as a weapon for null to destroy the celestials null is basically a god like the celestial but bathes in darkness and when null was in battle with the celestials he managed to make the universe 90% darkness instead of light but eventually he lost and was imprisoned and then kylntar was created planet of the symbiotes this would blow eddies mind completely

[@PokeMageTech]

*your

[@PokeMageTech]

And the symbiotes were corrupted towards being good by the influence of their hosts.

[@Charlie94781]

“Eddie… there are two primordial factions known as the Celestials and Null who fought a war of dominance since the birth of the universe and both sides aren’t friendly towards tiny mortals

[@sloppyburger00]

Actually, to be honest, knowing how the comic books were about the MCU and everything in between, I do believe you are onto something. I look forward to seeing how it turns out, I hope they don’t disappoint.

[@sherjane]

Yeah

[@igron_kenpachi2163]

Red

[@maxcat1970]

I saw the movie and I remember that in somewhere, someone said that "when they brought half of the universe's population" it provide the necessary energy for the celestial to emerge. Nice video!

[@WhiteTUnknown]

Yes. The additional population from after the snap and then bringing back half the population

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

With this theory, Thanos virtually delayed the inevitable birth of the Celestials from destroying earth. When Thanos said he was going to save the universe, he really wasn’t kidding.

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[@nickharrison1477]

No

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[@hottrin6103]

Nice

[@lorlok623]

Well if we consider mat's theory, it's actually a bad thing to prevent Celestials from birthing

[@isaiahthomas789]

Thanos isn’t just an eternal with a recessive gene, he’s literally half deviant. That’s why he looks how he does. This theory makes more sense if you bring in the idea that thanos was being driven by the deviant half of him, the half that wants to stop the celestials.

[@wildlif3214]

misred your message sorry

[@user-qp5xh9ky4t]

he's not half deviant. His father is A'lars who is an Eternal and his mother is Sui San who is an eternal so where exactly did the deviant half come from? he just has a deviant gene, if it's enough to warp his appearance I'm sure it's enough to warp his mind too.

[@bfp909]

i don’t think we know from where exactly his deviant genes come from since his parents were both eternals, but the idea of them giving him a drive to stop celestials is so dope it’s insane

[@EdSigma]

The film did have a plot point of how a Deviant became more Eternal by absorbing their essence; who says it couldn't work the other way around, that Thanos either on purpose or by accident took on Deviant traits.

[@nagendraprasadsingh4489]

No it is a recessive gene dude

[@clampchamp1822]

Me after watching the Movie: "MatPat is definitely going to make a theory about this."

[@Loquacious101]

did u watch it in the cinema or illegal website? if so tell me illegal website lol

[@Loquacious101]

@@ThatCupcakKe there is some websites but its really bad quality so im wait like a week or 2

[@dnxx503]

@@Loquacious101 lol

[@verymuchhobi9270]

literally

[@handtomouth4690]

@@Loquacious101 disgusting

[@Rajeenik]

I can buy the first premise of the theory. That Thanos saved the Earth when the snapped occurred and the Celestial couldn't be fed. But the rest is reeeeeeeeaaaaaaaally far fetched. 1/ If Thanos wanted to prevent planet from dying because of Celestials... why not using the snap to have Celestials disappearing instead of reducing population by half ? Moreover in Endgame, he "destroys" the Stones, which means that when the planets are getting populated again and the "baby Celestials" are ready to be born, there will be no way to prevent that... Which makes it pretty useless. 2/ A Celestial breaking Titans to be born would leave more damage to the planet that just a deviation of 7 degrees from its axis in my opinion. What could do that however, is a massive war using very advanced technology over the last resources of the planet. 3/ The "vision" thing doesn't work either. Because if Titans would have been destroyed by a Celestial coming from the center of the planet... then why would Thanos think the planet had been destroyed because of a lack of resources ? Assuming he foresaw the apocalypse of his planet, and got kickout by the other Titans and called a "mad man", why would he think the apocalypse happened because of a lack of resources ?

[@AustinWilliamson27]

“..and the parents are all there, stiffening…”. Phrasing Matt. Phrasing.

[@aurniox]

AHAHAHHA

[@SnickersEatsCookies]

And this kids is why context is important

[@alexanderlindley197]

@@SnickersEatsCookies kinda works in most contexts though...

[@RAIN-zz7mr]

orrr it was intentional 😼

[@typical8903]

i just got to that part, perfect timing

[@wksnxkeksnd]

Also, it was confirmed that thanos did not just wipe out humans, but every life form on every planet. It's also confirmed the celestials need enough general life on earth (not just people) to be born. If thanos was about making sure there was enough resources, you would think he would just erase half of all of the apex species of all the planets, not absolutely everything.

[@saberneumayer1692]

that explains why he didnt do the obvious thing to do yk, double the resources on earth

[@LucyWest370]

@@saberneumayer1692 if you double the resources humans are still going to be reproducing at the same rare and before you know it those resources are gone

[@trovellcornell9196]

This theory is based on the comics, the comics aren't like the movies in any way. Can someone explain to me y tf they did that? Seems to be a cash grab rather than a video made with love and sucks to see

[@Tim.Stotelmeyer]

@@LucyWest370 Reducing the number of humans by half would have the same affect as doubling the resources and might actually increase the rate of reproduction to make up for the loss of life.

[@saberneumayer1692]

@@trovellcornell9196 its what matpat and his team does when they make mcu theories, they make the theories by comparing the comics and the movies to find missing links in the plot

[@okupant880]

With this it makes sense. Thanos was VERY powerful but Stranges suggestion of only one positive outcome is impossible, there should've been more than just one timeline in which they win. unless it was completely necessary for the snap to happen, for the unsnap to happen and then Thanos' army be defeated in a specific way. Strange is playing a very dangerous game here.

[@molybdaen11]

Dr. Strange was surely not in his best shape in endgame. All he had to do is taking his stone and hide - that's it. Or capturing Thanos in a time loop. Or giving him a fake stone which explodes after a while, releasing the other stones. But nooo, he had to lose his very first fight.

[@Crilyte]

@@molybdaen11 because all that is impossible. Four stones overpowers one Also, more people would die if Tony didn't snap right there, in Endgame. As an example, Rocket would've been crushed to death by a Leviathan, which got dusted before it did

[@arshawitoelar7675]

It's not like there's only 1 outcome, it's just out of the first 14,000,065 futures that he saw

[@Sly-Moose]

Shouldn't Doctor Strange know about this "the Earth's gonna hatch" thing?!

[@WebbanationX]

He definitely didn't see the right outcomes, or he was looking further into the future than just the threat of Thanos

[@anthonykoprowski5434]

in the comics, Thanos is labeled the mad Titan because he loves death and wants to impress her by killing half the universe...he was also created by the Eternals...so that may have been part of it. Once he has the Infinty stones he fights the Eternals and Galactus and wins...it is only when death spurns him that he loses.

[@khora3845]

An idea I had about the ending of Eternals is based on an action Tiamut made in the comics. In the comics, the Celestials, Deviants, and Watchers served a being called the Fulcrum. At one point, Tiamut asked the Fulcrum to spare Earth as he had grown to love it. Assuming the flow of energy from Tiamut to Sersi at the end of Eternals was voluntary, that could mean that Tiamut in the MCU had grown to love the planet he was incubated in and allowed Sersi to save Earth.

[@marcelcjr9313]

W Tiamut

[@MorePower8679]

Is this the “Fulcrum” Fulcrum or the One-Above-All Fulcrum? (I.E. is this the God-stand in or another being?)

[@jigolocana7492]

I mean if tiamut really wanted to be born. Even if the eternals formed a uni mind to freeze or stone the celestial. They can't stop tiamut from being born.

[@phaiag1727]

I believe it was. Cersei said that when they formed the uni-mind, Tiamut joined them and didn’t resist.

[@OK-yy6qz]

This theory actually does solve 2 massive plot holes . Plot hole 1 :why didn't Thanos just double the resources . Plot hole 2 : why was there only 1 win out of millions since there definitely were options to defeat Thanos before the snap.

[@razzy6728]

Holy moly, Strange probably had no idea why every time they killed thanos too early, the world just exploded and killed everyone. He had to try so many different scenarios before he found anything that resembled success

[@muhammadmuqhrizz1631]

Plot hole 1 : doubling resource = faster advancement rate = faster celestial birth rate Plot hole 2 : idk I stupi

[@kaine8911]

The first is simple, doubling will make birth rates faster making celestial birth rate faster. The second one wasn't even the point of the video, he didn't didn't mention it. Did you even watch it? Or did you just presume that he will talk about that? Instead of actually watching the video?

[@OK-yy6qz]

You guys don't get my comment. I said that there were 2 massive plot holes in Infinity War . This theory solves them both

[@OK-yy6qz]

@@razzy6728 exactly

[@parsapouyafar1047]

I love that everyone's now realizing this because Thanos wasn't just another bad guy the character has so much more story to offer

[@davidteres9463]

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[@jenjenhocho3188]

He's still mad though. You got to be if you're in a love triangle with Death and Deadpool.

[@victorhinderliter5349]

@@ГияСкова now more great

[@vincentbeton]

He does, but then again Endgame made him into "screw all that, I'll just remake the whole Universe the way I want it to be", ruining a lot

[@jamesbyrd3740]

@@vincentbeton end game was straight trash

[@gtaipan7422]

"With all six stones that I could simply snap my fingers, they would all cease to exist. I call that... mercy. I would finally rest and watch the sunrise on the grateful universe." A quote from a hero we all should to remember.

[@godemperorofmankind3.091]

uh no. thanos is a brutal psychopathic supervillain and calling him a "hero" means you're an insane murder apologist. are you saying id be a hero if i killed your mom to "conserve resources"?

[@godemperorofmankind3.091]

@elekdog8352 except it was never gonna save anything. the Celestials were already on top of universal balance. thanos entire plan was a waste of time and effort.

[@fishcake2519]

@@godemperorofmankind3.091 I mean Not really The celestials are products of the universe And therefore under its power The infinity stones have direct control of the universe So thanos could've dealt with the celestials at any given time

[@godemperorofmankind3.091]

@@fishcake2519 my point is why would he ever want to?

[@maggie1000]

Someone pointed out that strange might have some insight into this as well from when he was going through all the possibilities. If thanos lost then the emergence would have occurred pretty soon afterwards. So maybe he knew thanos winning in that moment would give them more time and have the ability to stop the emergence. If Ajak didn’t have the 5yrs to live with humans she wouldn’t have picked Sersei and the emergence would have just happened. But because of the snap Ajak had time to change her mind which set off the events in Eternals to stop the emergence

[@jarenmonzon2840]

I had the same thought

[@milesprowerkardia3024]

I agree, That is what i think so too i mean Dr. strange saw million of timeline using the time stone and found only 1 timeline that they won which is kinda weird for me because i doubt that out of the million timelines Dr.strange saw i'm sure they defeated Thanos at many of those timeline. So my theory goes on that Dr.strange probably saw the earth get destroyed and so he keeps going through time till he found 1 timeline that the earth didn't get destroyed which is were the "Eternals" rebel against the destruction of earth against the celestial or maybe more to it. PS sowee for bad english not my first language ^^

[@jarenmonzon2840]

@@milesprowerkardia3024 that's what I kept telling other people. Also your English is ok.👍

[@maggie1000]

MilesPrower Kardia your English is fine! I completely understood and agree :)

[@davidperge4742]

i just saw the eternals 2 days ago... Idk why, i liked that movie too, but I think it was not the biggest hole in the story. For example: These eternals exist since millions of years right? traveling between worlds in our universe. And Arisham made human eternals millions of years before even humans evolved. (almost all of them are human as we saw in the movie in the arisham's "eternal storage" :D except mabye Thanos.. but as we know he is not really original eternal, becasue he is a "son" of an eternal, what is kind of impossible couse they are kind of "biomachines" or wahtever) And what an accident... a life evolved look like just eternals what arisham made... I would like that idea Arisham makes eternals face, skin and kind of "shape"less and they get their face, skin and shape when they are sent to the world where they have to work on. Becasue we saw scenes when they were working on other planets in the same human shape but helping some alien race. :D this is what bothers me and other plotholes as well... but lets just discuss this, i hope did not couse brain cancer to you with my english :D

[@jjamesstewart]

"The parents and the audience are collectively stiffening." Uh, phrasing.

[@osmosisjones4912]

What if Ego had won

[@victorhinderliter5349]

Wow no bot

[@lolkayleen2757]

STOPP

[@Da_doggo104]

He said the first seen iron man 1 in the background

[@roothlus]

Aww stiffening with your kids sitting next to you is Tight!

[@Patterrz]

/r/thanosdidnothingwrong feeling pretty good right now

[@ItsmeUVie]

Yup

[@foxhunter3509]

Oh hey it’s Pat

[@builder1013]

Well, actually this theory is contrary to that one What If episode, I just found out.

[@gigachad5095]

Yea dude thanos was right also love your videos

[@aas2009]

Griffithdidnothingwrong.

[@OmniMonitor]

You really are putting in the work to make the MCU more intersting and coherent. I don't know how to feel about this.

[@williambilliam5001]

I always felt that, when watching Eternals, I thought that the movie isn't meant to be a showstopper, but a "plot glue" that would make better sense once everything else comes together. Reminds me of the "slow tracks" in a great album: yeah, it's not a hit, but it's not meant to be a hit. It is more of a palate cleanser.

[@subjecttochrist]

That's called 'mcdonalds'

[@shaunalexis8162]

I agree

[@bee-18-ki]

@@subjecttochrist i agree

[@yourpsychicfriendfredbear]

“… the parents in the audience are all collectively stiffening” is not how you want to phrase it.

[@TheScarletSlayer]

Parents? Meaning women too? How does that work lol

[@gabrielking7855]

@@TheScarletSlayer Y O U D O N T W A N T T O K N O W

[@Cyberlord_Blaze]

wow I only just realised XD

[@TheScarletSlayer]

@@gabrielking7855 BUT NOW IM CURIOUS!!!

[@kiwiyaya1556]

@@gabrielking7855 wait i wanna know

[@killerbeans]

Thanos also says to tony stark “you’re not the only one cursed with knowledge” probably wasn’t referring to madweiry, but he could’ve been

[@Imnotsemi]

Because tony also had a vision of the decimation of the avengers during age of ultron

[@StormWildSpace]

I can't believe TFT completely whiffed this. Then again, I haven't really enjoyed much of their recent content.

[@_TracerBullet]

I really doubt Knull will ever make an appearance, but this is such a good theory otherwise. I'm an unapologetic fan of Eternals and this just solidifies it as my favourite movie of Phase 4.

[@danieltentori7523]

Venom the Last Dance 👀

[@Mika-ph6ku]

I love how the selling point of vpns is what is ultimately a secondary, unintended feature of them.

[@shwoopi]

and It doesn’t even work for Netflix because it recognizes you’re using a Vpn

[@Mr_Joe_B_619]

and some of them don't work. My ISP is cutting me off at the end of this month. Lol. Not a ISP monopoly, so okay.

[@untitledj3007]

Online privacy is hard to explain I guess

[@willverschneider1102]

It's something that's legal, but feels illegal.

[@ronardjones6762]

The problem with "The Eternals" is that they tried to pack a lot into a movie. It should have been a series.

[@kenjironakazawa9177]

Agreed. I like the eternals movie but i hate that they dont have equal character development so when gilgamesh died i was just like oh no. So yeah anyway. They focus too much on sersi and ikaris. It should have been a series indeed

[@cjthenarhwalking1378]

same thing with the aquaman movie it felt super fast paced

[@justinehercthehuman]

Yes but sadly Disney wants money. And with that many big actors, they would be spending so much for a smaller income. Movies sell more sadly.

[@kb7867]

Why tho, series tend to drag things out, 2 episodes about cersei and kit harrington, 1 episode for sprite describing her feelings for icarus, 1 episode for the dude to how he got to the village in brazil, etc.

[@kenjironakazawa9177]

@@kb7867 isnt that better than nothing at all? I mean you dont have to give a full episode just for 1 character atleast with many episodes there is space for each member of the eternals to get some scene for them. Im sorry not really good at explaining ahahahaha.

[@vanillarice6163]

“The celestials reproduce by laying their eggs in the core of planets” Evangelion fans: *vietnam flashbacks*

[@goosmaw8561]

the ending sean with the steals gave me end of eva vibes

[@siluda9255]

sounds like thursday for us

[@TheRedstoneWeb]

*Komm, Susser Tod*

[@siluda9255]

Eternals you can (not) save the world

[@OxygenDestroyer36271]

And Thanos Brother FLashback *

[@ROBLOXTHANOS]

I am still trying, actually.

[@LonelySandwich]

I always thought that Thanos was trying to save the world. Just seemed cruel. But I loved that guy

[@TheHotBlade]

Stolen. The fact that this was fully copied and pasted from DaGuun OSHO and the thief’s account goes by the name of Lonely Sandwich makes it obvious. It’s never good to lie for attention or clout.

[@Profile_Profile_Underscore]

@@TheHotBlade who is DaGuun OSHO?

[@rollerskdude]

Yeah, I got the feeling from infinity war that Thanos wasn't a bad guy

[@Cat_Garfield]

did you delete your comment because you copied a comment

[@Cat_Garfield]

because I'm know you were here 9 hours ago

[@wesleytitcombe58]

When I watched Eternals I thought the exact same thing because I knew that Thanos has the Deviant gene which is why he is purple( fun fact he was hated by his people for that) and I knew from the movie that the deviants stop the emergence of celestials and then I when Ajax said that Thanos delayed earth’s emergence I was like holy crap he saved so many planets in the universe, he wasn’t stopping overpopulation he was stopping emergences across the universe.

[@draconis7561]

Thanos was definitely an Eternal. His name is a variation of Thanatos, the god of death, who also happens to be the brother of Eros in Greek Myrhology.

[@octoxite]

And also its straight up mentioned in the eternals movie that he is eros brother so like, there's that too.

[@Sorrowdusk]

I see.

[@B14z3rather]

lol

[@jovianguyen]

I’m pretty sure that Thanatos was the son of Nyx and the brother of many other deity like beings. And Eros was one of the protogenoi (One of the first beings to exist). (Eros is also mentioned to be Aphrodite’s son) But since mythology has many other variations (Like all mythology) there might be a myth like that. The name Thanos is thought to be believed coming from the word and deity Thanatos (death). (I’d also like to point out how the name Thanos means immortal)

[@givemeanameiwillhate9525]

He is, and half deviant, if i guess myself

[@PeffHus]

5 years later and we are still waiting for that quality marvel stuff, wrapping up, and continuing previous storylines

[@noahgtg]

“the celestials reproduce by laying their eggs in the core of planets” I am starting to think the audience that did not like eternals for its plot would not be fans of evangelion

[@warriorscholar41]

The biggest complaint I've heard about the plot is that it tried to take on too many things at once, so it explored precisely none of them. It tried to cram an entire Avenger's arc into one movie.

[@wbw911]

ah yess Komm Susser Todd

[@malikdespanie4344]

Ain't watching the Eternals but I better look into Neon genesis Evangelion.

[@allietiller1925]

@@warriorscholar41 I agree with that. Left with more questions than answers

[@papabearlives9995]

So did Ego do it wrong? He left them on the surface of the planet and did it to a lot of planets.

[@kalebgetoffit3529]

Stories are always more interesting when the villains have a point rather than just being blatantly evil cuz they’re evil.

[@Dan-kz6tq]

What would knull's point be? Celestial took over his domain?

[@piotrlatuszek171]

Samurai jack is exception

[@fynkozari9271]

Thanos only saved earth for 5 years. Then Stark screwed it up again, rebirthed the egg.

[@ericm5315]

@@Dan-kz6tq That's basically his reasoning in the comics. He was just floating around in nothingness then the Celestials kept creating stars which pissed him off. Basically, we're a bunch of hobos living in his house.

[@randomdude8202]

@@ericm5315 I would prefer something like nurgle in warhammer 40k, he destroys so new life can form again.

[@racool911]

God this Thanos twist could be incredible. Applause to the mcu writers if they actually thought about this back in IW

[@jamesbizs]

@seeni gzty that’s stupid. More resources and knowledge, is what stops population growth. And more population growth means more potential to have some super genius that solves huge problems. More chances that there will be another Tesla or such type of person.

[@edwardelric8966]

@@jamesbizs you don't actually get it. Humanity creates comfort for itself at the expense of the planet's longevity. Why? Because we create things and culture that breaks the cycle of life and death as it should be in this planet. Like burial. Our bodies at the end of our existence should be given to the earth. By that I mean the energy. We should become a part of the earth when we perish. But we create ideas like burial where we bury our love ones inside a tomb or a casket entombed by cement. Where the earth cannot harvest our energy to bring new life. Humanity creates comfort "resources" by destroying or modifying natural resources but the outcome would be an object that cannot be reversed and be harvested by the planet. Hence, in due time, will result into the depletion of a planet's resource.

[@thalmoragent9344]

@@edwardelric8966 Well, our population is slowly stagnating in various areas

[@edwardelric8966]

@@thalmoragent9344 This is in fact true but with the amount of products we produce daily population isn't the only factor we take into account.

[@Olivia-vg4mm]

And also all the way back to gotg vol 2 when a celestial was the main plot point 😳 i feel like marvel is extremelyyy on top of things lol

[@JEBaganha]

The MCU should listen to Mat, their new movies would make sense, and be actually good to watch.....

[@wickidgames]

Kinda explains why he doesn't just double the resources

[@lukascisar6740]

That would be stupidest idea. The world is based on equal exchange. You can't just create things out of nowhere.

[@joshbrosh6626]

@@lukascisar6740 with movies everything is posible

[@joshbrosh6626]

This is also true

[@fica1137]

@@lukascisar6740 You haven't read the comics?

[@lukascisar6740]

@@fica1137 Nah

[@jasoningramx3731]

What's even more interesting is that this provides a perfect answer as to why Thanos didn't just double the resources with the stones as many have wondered. And this gives even more nuance to Thanos as a character than he had before. It works on many different levels.

[@osmosisjones4912]

Earth's survival was part of the secret time line

[@CrackingCody]

I mean, also because doubling all resources in the universe wouldn’t be possible…

[@mobslayer211]

@@CrackingCody it would be possible but humans would just go through it faster

[@jayboom25]

Most people: "Galactus, Galactus, Galactus" Matt: "Have you herd of Null the dark god?"

[@w1ndgeneral226]

I have, and I theorized that knull was gonna show himself as well.

[@demiurgusgodofform8589]

To be frank, it kind of makes sense that Marvel would go for Knull instead of Galactus (not that I like that they're probably skipping over him) simply because he hasn't been relevant in comics for a while, whereas Knull was part of one of they're more successful comic story arcs in recent years, making him more relevant and identifiable to a modern audience that, in all brutal honesty, seems to have all the attention span of a dementia ridden cockatoo.

[@jayboom25]

@@demiurgusgodofform8589 as someone who’s not a massive comics fan Galactus definitely had more powerful pop culture settings

[@imbored7444]

I thought chaos king

[@bigbirdscousin]

Yes, yes I have

[@juliogambino8087]

Matpat after Venom 3 trailer: They called me a madman

[@danieltentori7523]

Aged like wine

[@sjoauga4561]

I really wish Eternals was spread out more rather than just one movie. I actually quite enjoyed it.

[@GonzalezJio]

feels like a tv show

[@eventplanner461]

@@GonzalezJio Yeah if it was a series each character would have more screen time and development. They rushed everything.

[@irinaklimova5863]

yeah, if it was a tv show it might have been better, but even as the movie was i really enjoyed it, i don’t get all the hate tbh. def had more potential but what was there was great

[@ChildWatcher]

Felt to jumbled

[@reddyprahlad]

I feel sorry for your husband

[@kaxida]

I’m still waiting for you to count every single bee carrying the jet in the bee movie, along with wondering how many bees it’d actually take to actually carry a jet of that size, MatPat

[@ShadowLynx777]

It's impossible A bee can lift up to a max of 100 mg A 747 is 333,400 kg or 333,400,000,000 mg. So it would take a minimum of 3.3 billion bees to lift a plane. But there's a problem, a bee takes up about 20 mm of surface space, and the underside of a plane only has room for 13,000,000 bees. You'd need the area of 256 planes for bees to carry 1 plane. Therefore impossible

[@Donmoonu9000]

I wish I could do what you did

[@1stNumberOne]

@@Donmoonu9000 google, then open calculator.

[@roreah]

@@ShadowLynx777 But are these bees MOTIVATED?

[@ShadowLynx777]

@@1stNumberOne Pretty much lol. Just harder doing it on your phone and switching between apps

[@FreshSkit]

Strange must've seen the emergence when looking into the future, hence why he had to let Thanos "win" in order for Earth to survive in the long run. "It was the only way" probably refers to the fact that if they had beaten Thanos, the entire world would have ended regardless.

[@ly_is_music]

Oh yeah that would actually make sense. I also noticed that the reason why doctor strange couldn't tell tony what to do for the right timeline to happen was because tony himself would die, therefore he would've done everything in his power to stay alive and then the one right timeline wouldn't have happened.

[@matmurk8536]

Then why wasn't he there to help the Eternals stop the emergence? So it saw it and knew it was coming but told no one and did nothing? Doesn't make any sense

[@aaditkhan728]

@@matmurk8536 bro there was simpler way to stop the emergence,wipe out half of all life.Quick,clean and precise.

[@Deadpool-px2nm]

@@matmurk8536 uh, because he can see the future? Jfc. anyone who's seen Infinity War already knows Strange could see what happened in the future and if there was a reason why he gave Thanos the Time Stone, there must also be a reason why he didnt help out if that's what "needs" to happen for things to be okay. And things did in fact turn out okay (the Eternals save Earth), so I dont rly get what ur problem is

[@FreshSkit]

​@@matmurk8536 Strange probably had no knowledge of the Eternals, only of what happens to Earth if Thanos loses. Remember, when he looks into the future, he's seeing alternate timelines through his own perspective of the situation; living through those timelines as himself. With that in mind, Strange probably only witnessed the destruction of Earth without knowing the 'how' or 'why' of the situation.

[@collosus5501]

Thanos is killing half the universe to attract lady death in the marvel universe. He isn't trying to save anyone, he just wants the love of death.

[@ZeroFighter]

A friend of mine said that he understood what the movie was TRYING- and failed- to do, and explained that the movie suffered from being a 2.5 hour movie rather than a TV show that would have allowed the stories to be told at a more suitable pace, and in greater detail. It sets up ideas, and then immediately wraps them up, or else just abandons them after a few minutes, making for a bad movie.

[@ZeroFighter]

@@nickter745thebold8 k

[@syahirahshuhaimi3282]

I don’t think it’s a bad movie. It’s just lack details that would be great for explanation. In my opinion, tv series would be dragged with unnecessary details. Having few details not explained will make people think for it and talk about it more.

[@JCPRuckus]

It didn't need to be a TV series. It just needed to be 2 movies. The flashback stuff should have been its own movie where there would have been time to flesh out all of the characters, and it could have ended with them going there separate ways. Then the second movie could have been all of the modern day stuff, and instead of having to do a bunch of character introductions and backstory, it would have had time to deal with all of the revelations they make while trying to deal with The Emergence. The problem is that it's half of each of those movies, and they don't stitch cleanly together into one whole good movie.

[@hexum7]

@@syahirahshuhaimi3282 #RESTORETHEZHAOCUT ?

[@shadowsoul121]

@@nickter745thebold8 honestly I liked it but I like a lot of movies that get a lot of hate 🤷‍♀️ I do wish they had split it up and fleshed it out more but i don't really think it deserves as much hate as it's getting

[@Unhinged_Pegasus69]

I actually read an article on ScreenRant a few days ago about this, and you are correct. The Earth’s population had actually achieved the necessary number to start the Emegence during the events of Infinity War, and then Thanos erased half the population using the Infinity Gauntlet and Infinity Stones, saving the earth from destruction for 5 years until the Avengers undid it during Endgame. (Though I’m not to sure about the whole “visions” thing that you’re talking about)

[@thisnewnamesystemisdumb]

Screen rant is trash.

[@puffmoneyo3590]

He didn’t save anyone bud

[@braedenhoang6646]

@@thisnewnamesystemisdumb the only thing i like from them is their pitch meetings

[@disgustof-riley]

Thena has traumatic flashbacks of her past lives from watching planets being destroyed during her previous missions as an eternal. If Thanos was also an eternal, he would also have past lives, and in them have seen similar destruction, and would also be capable of having similar flashbacks. These could be misinterpreted as visions

[@tycarne7850]

Population growth would have undone Thanos's snap in less than fifty years. Thanos was a moron.

[@spiderboi9425]

As Peter would say, "Please don't lay your alien eggs inside me!"

[@tuavaresm]

😂

[@markdennnajaw3786]

I have been a fan of these videos for a long time but since I have suffered cranial trauma and have not been as smart as I used to be I find these videos very hard to keep up with.. but I still watch them so I can feel as smart as I used to be and I thank you for making them so I can have that feeling I appreciate you

[@IamTheGoat....742]

Dang Hopefully u can get your smartness back

[@eternalre-incarnate2904]

get well soon man

[@Cubick]

Can’t wait to see a theory of “Train to Busan has something to do with the Eternals”

[@katherineminor3402]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@samzadeh2518]

Also in the Venom2 post-credit scene, Venom mentioned that the symbiote Hiveminds transcends the multiverse, so Knull could be a multiverse threat that would tie in with the MCU, even if Spider-man and venom end up going back to the Sony timeline in the MCU and are not present in the Earth 199999 timeline

[@loganjblack]

Iirc venom never mentioned the multiverse, he said something like "the hivemind has millions of lightyears of knowledge across galaxies"

[@samzadeh2518]

@@loganjblack no, he said across universes, not galaxies which would be in a single universe, which means it transcends the multiverse

[@jazzman7842]

spoilers aren't epic

[@samzadeh2518]

@@jazzman7842 movies been out for a while now and anything Spider-Man related spreads like wildfire, it’s on you for being on the internet with anything marvel related and getting mad of being spoiled 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@samzadeh2518]

@@jazzman7842 the video itself even spoiled the end credit scene so nothing really for you to complain about

[@maks-tldr56]

Yknow, Eros' weird ability sorta makes sense since his name in greek mythology he's a god of love.

[@ShadowPhoenix82]

Not sorta makes sense. Just makes sense. That's why he's named Eros. He IS Eros from ancient myth, as all ancient myths are based on the Eternals.

[@maks-tldr56]

@@ShadowPhoenix82 ok ok calm down i get it.

[@Cshepherd]

Thanks to that eternals scene, I went to the movies again later that night just to watch the parents look in horror whilst trying to get their kids to look away as their children watch the screen either in awe, or terror

[@kevinlam9437]

If they do Knull, then they would most likely do Chaos King and Oblivion. Also, in the actual eternals comic, Tiamut woke up but didn't destroy earth, and instead helped stop the horde and became the partner of the Fulcrum.

[@Zaacdrums]

Just give oblivion is comic book origin. He is representation of nothing. He is what is left when a universe is destroyed or when a comic book is burned. I forgot and I’m sure someone will correct me

[@theanimegod4687]

knull and chaos king may be too powerfull for the mcu. like they might at most mention them but not actually have them in the movies

[@himum3429]

@@theanimegod4687 Gorr, his presence and motivationsakes him a baby Chaos king. They're legitimately laying the foundation for him as we speak

[@ez_is_bloo]

@@theanimegod4687 yeaaaaa chaos king would be waaaaaaay too OP

[@DarthMolgy]

So, um... Can anyone give us movie amateurs some context? Who are these people you're talking about?

[@TheGhostlyBucket]

The Eternals set up so many cool ideas for the MCU. I'm so excited to see what happens.

[@karamelsaeed8298]

Wowww kzbin.info/www/bejne/fIS2d5qNoamVgLc……..

[@Infinitystar225]

It's definitely going to be the most underrated film in the MCU

[@xanadryl5691]

I alredy saw it, it was fucking garbage

[@catsballs9657]

@@xanadryl5691 sure bud

[@owyemen9367]

@@Infinitystar225 the movie is trash, the ideas are amazing

[@davidwright8450]

When thanos said “you’re not the only one cursed with knowledge” is hitting differently now(edited…god dam autocorrect😂)

[@killerbeans]

That’s what I’m saying

[@maspesasmasperras5554]

Thanks is the second best villain after you're welcome

[@kendraenaike9329]

Cursed being the key word

[@smwhtunknown]

@@maspesasmasperras5554 🤣🤣😭

[@Cyrus-rodn45]

@@maspesasmasperras5554 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@nicolaemihai3581]

not sure Thanos was first thought up to be a ethernal, or that him wiping out half was about celestial not getting born. I mean Arishem would intervene faster if that was true. I think it was more about the lack of resources, as the plot for Eternals squeezed in the MCU afterwards and in a way that would feel decently meshed with all other things

[@-Uranos-]

Thanos and Eros are part of the second-generation Eternals that were born, not made like the first generation Eternals. Ikaris along with the other Eternals in the movie were created directly by the celestials. There were more Eternals created by the celestials but some went their own way and conducted their own experiments. They wanted to breed and birth children naturally creating their own societies. Thanos, Eros, and many others on Titan were products of that social experiment.

[@robinmattar2715]

Which is why Thanos could be snapped away, but the eternals in the movie can't.

[@MarinKitagawa2]

@@robinmattar2715 true

[@derkaffeenator9172]

@@robinmattar2715 but that’s still questionable, because Thanos with the Gauntlet should be the third strongest being in the universe. Even the Celestials shouldn’t be able to stand against him.

[@db-tuncturan4983]

@@derkaffeenator9172 Eternals are something like robot or humanoid. They are not fully living being. Thanos snapped away living beings. So characters like Vision, Ultron or Eternals wouldn't affect from that.

[@robinmattar2715]

@@derkaffeenator9172 i'm no expert in marvel lore, thats just what i gathered here and there. (Ps: geiler name bro haha)

[@ZenithAMVs]

Wouldn't this mean that Doctor Strange would have seen a reality where Thanos lost in their first fight and the Celestial destroyed the world, killing the Avengers?

[@Unknown-gn8gn]

Doctor strange and only saw one reality were Thanos lost, and that’s the one we see in the movie’s

[@Console-l0gger]

he said there was 1 option meaning thanos dying would still lead to surviving idk he said what he said

[@chrisjensen9476]

Doctor strange probably never looked beyond the success or failure of dealing with Thanos so more than likely no.

[@LucyWest370]

@@Unknown-gn8gn the exact phrasing is that he only saw one future in which the avengers won, not thanos lost.

[@noraiyu]

i don't see why he needs to see till the very end of existence. there's like 14 billions, do you really thinks he would have watch all of it? like, literally all of the thing they do and stuff. i bet he juts look till they actually win against thanos and lives.

[@fishpop]

I liked Eternals... The thing with it and Shang-Chi is that they're banking on characters nobody, outside of those who actually read the comics, has heard of and the films generally don't have that MCU vibe. They just feel like standalone science fantasy films.

[@mikeconrad1183]

Same

[@NJPCofficial]

Yeah. Eternals was a good movie.

[@JustThatOneRandomGuy]

I never read a comic in my life but I am a MCU cinéphile and I just love these introductions. Doesn’t matter to me what the comics are, as long as they made a good movie, I’m all for it.

[@L16htW4rr10r]

@@JustThatOneRandomGuy Same for me.

[@Philweasel]

I mean Eternals was... a weird comic, even more so than Guardians of the Galaxy. I don't think anyone expected the MCU to touch them.

[@Brodyvandl]

at 00:10 he says ten exactly when it reaches 10 seconds

[@purpledevilr7463]

I want this to become the cannon lore of the MCU. I want marvel to move in this direction.

[@gamers-xh3uc]

It probably will this will be another phase I guess like the phase of the stones now the phase of the celestials galactus etc

[@alexv0714]

I think Kang is likely going to be the next big bad we see going forward... With how much time they spent on Thanos, I'm going to guess that anything that has to do with Null will likely be set up officially in Eternals 2 (which has already been confirmed in the Eternals post credits scene), probably like 5 years from now

[@drac0nisw0lf]

Canon*

[@BardicLasher]

Great job on this one! Thanos being an Eternal is so strongly implied at the end that it raised a lot of questions, and the answer of "Thanos has Madweiry and doesn't fully understand what he's trying to stop" is a great idea to bring that all together.

[@starpower1598]

I actually quite liked this movie, being a lot about the morally gray characters, one of my favorite types of storylines to see

[@firerice5650]

That I liked but the rest just seemed like jibber and jabber and meaningless fights

[@MelancholyMusicOnly]

Me too i enjoyed it

[@captainwaffles940]

Do you have covid? Because you clearly lost your taste

[@MelancholyMusicOnly]

@@captainwaffles940 dont ruin someones favorite just because you dont like it.. get lost.

[@GearDiego23]

@@captainwaffles940 OMEGALUL

[@MangoMongoose9291]

Knull is here!!

[@TbagCentral]

"The parents in the audience are all collectively stiffening" That was an...interesting choice of words

[@JacksonFilmsMovies]

Lmao

[@Antonio-ys5zd]

That doesn't imply any good circumstances

[@jameskarg3240]

So, Eternals was LITERALLY just a wish-fufillment request Marvel: Give kids the boot, TELL them what they need to hear: "College credits first"

[@Always_Muddy]

I love this theory since it also explains why Thanos didn't use the stones to create MORE resources.

[@kennyholmes5196]

It _does,_ however, raise the question of why he didn't use the stones to solve the Celestial issue in another way, such as getting rid of the ones in the planetary cores.

[@kayy6579]

@@kennyholmes5196 Matpat stated that just like Thena, Thanos must’ve only saw fragments or glimpses of planetary destruction. He knew that by cutting the population in half he was saving the inhabitants from something. He just wasn’t exactly sure what he was saving them from. But he knew the plan was affective because planets he wiped half the population from survived (Gamora’s, for example). But he needed to do it on a universal scale because he most like felt something was coming and needed to act fast by using the stones.

[@quibbs126]

You know, this theory sounds really cool in retrospect, the whole stuff with Null. If only that was the direction the movies went…

[@danieltentori7523]

Venom the Last Dance 👀

[@FlashthePreacherGuy]

I enjoyed The Eternals and the deeper plot lines. My prediction is it’s going to be a bigger deal than anyone thinks.

[@keif9447]

No, you're just that gullible.

[@ironhideproductions3616]

@@keif9447 💀

[@ianwoodaudio]

It’s already growing on me

[@teodordimitrov7758]

Thanos: I am doing this to save the universe MatPat two years later: Guys, He tried to save the universe!

[@10thletter40]

Like I agree he tried, terrible execution though

[@DUSHEVNIK]

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[@merbik9398]

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[@hottrin6103]

@@10thletter40 yuh

[@lukascisar6740]

It doesn't matter.

[@mitsuyuki-hime9879]

Ngl this theory and Mat's discussion about the Eternals' choices, as well as the Null theory, kind of saved the Eternals movie for me, because I so strongly disagreed with the saving of Earth that I couldn't accept the movie. This theory sort of clears up what this sets up for the future of the MCU.

[@JahanMisra]

what... thats like saving 1000 fertilized zygotes instead of saving one child in a burning fire

[@hotelzeta24]

So, you wanted earth to be destroyed?

[@em_iiy]

Before watching this video, I felt the movie would've been better outside the MCU. They would've had more freedom with which direction to take the ending and I also felt a lot of the MCU stuff was just mentioned here and there to remind you it's a Marvel movie. I guess he's cleared some things up about how it fits into the MCU making it not as bad as I thought, but I still think this concept was wasted here.

[@lolicongang.4974]

Yeh getting woke

[@joonashannila8751]

Knull* Also this theory is not true.. Eternals are not robots neither.. If you want to learn how the REAL lore goes, go watch Comics Explained video "Celestials Explained (2021 version)" now that video might actually get you excited about this ;) It gives you so much background info etc they could never fit in one movie.

[@Random-user..]

The infinty gauntlet gives you any wish so why didnt he wish for the titan to die

[@ioandote5393]

Bruce: You murdered trillions!! Thanos: You should be grateful...

[@savagetyrant7428]

The MCU directors should be scared of their real life villain: Matpat and his theoretical spoilers.

[@ZachzWinner]

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[@Antonio-ys5zd]

MatPat may be highly wrong though. I'm not entirely certain but I believe that Sony didn't renew the contract meaning no more spider-man or spider-man related things in the mcu meaning no knull

[@Bduboff]

I like that MCU took a big risks like this. I'm not sure it paid off but it shows that they are trying to evolve from their previous movies.

[@xanatgarcia9241]

Maybe right now the direction is being written and they needed externals to propel that direction abs hopefully it pays off

[@chinmayjain2023]

I think eternal is just like Avengers age of Ultron. Like in AOU Stark show a vision which then was completed in Endgame just same like that with eternals.

[@jeffreytsao5710]

It's kind of sad that, no matter how good Matt's theories are, or how close they are to what was originally conceived by Marvel, Marvel studios and Disney are so hung up on chasing trends and having movies instantly liked that they either won't think of this, or they won't commit to seeing it through.

[@baneblackguard584]

I liked Eternals, the only real problem I had with it was that in the back of my head I kept asking "if all this craziness is going, how in the world are no other heroes getting involved? where are they? are they too busy with something else?" it was a hole in the story that I still haven't really gotten over. If you accept the movie for itself rather than as a piece in the Marvel Universe, it's a pretty good movie.

[@HungJulian]

That's the case with many marvel movies. Comparetively this movie doesn't have that problem

[@jabronibasher]

well to be fair, neither spiderman nor the defenders have the money to travel outside of usa. All the rich heroes are either dead or off planet.

[@musixmash4466]

For heroes to go there, they must know it first. But no, they have no knowledge of what's happening. I think they do now since Tiamut's head and hand can be seen in the Indian Ocean, and its all over the news.

[@generalspizzy4679]

They did mention who will lead the Avengers. They are busy and low on funds. They can't just teleport

[@Leo-pb3ju]

Especially since Dr. Strange can teleport anywhere he wants to.

[@iSupermanCKi]

If this has been going on for millions of years and Thanos set everything back maybe 3-4 centuries, I don't think he was trying to prevent this. It just happened to set back their goal while helping his.

[@caiusdrakegaming8087]

Yeah, can't say he saved the planet if all he did was just DELAY Tiamet's birth. It was still going to happen regardless so if that was why Thanos did it then... why not just snap away Tiamet in the first place? If the stones can destroy themselves, then they can destroy a Celestial embryo.

[@foozle1up9]

No, stones are no that powerful. Thanos never destroyed the stones, he made them sooooooo small. People forget it's not gauntlet that does things, gauntlet is powerless holder for stones (that's why I was confused why not just bring back stones to OG sizes using ant man) stones can't destroy something more powerful than stones themselves

[@zapmenhightide9233]

He never was Thanos had his own plan

[@Faustaine]

There are thousands of Celestial seeds spread thru the universal. Thanos didnt care about Earth. He cared about life in general. He would've saved multiple planets..not just Earth.

[@kari548]

That means doctor strange was the real hero

[@eldritchchaos2663]

Ooh, I love when media gets existential, it's honestly my favorite type of horror because it affects everyone and makes people realize how fragile we really are. Whatever movie Knull is introduced in, I hope it delves more into the horror side of sci-fi, I think that would really work well.

[@silverprimus321boi9]

Knoll would be perfect

[@starlightseason1462]

If I’m not mistaken, Doctor Strange: Multiverse Of Madness will lean into the horror thing

[@eldritchchaos2663]

@@starlightseason1462 I read a theory that the main villain of MVoM is going to be Shuma Gorath, who's this eldritch tentacle creature with psychic abilities that can drive people insane. Another theory I found thinks that was the tentacle creature Dr Strange encountered in his episode of What If, as well as being the source of the voices in Shang Chi, and since the post-credit scene takes place in the Inner Sanctum, I think that there may be a crossover there, as well as the already confirmed Scarlet Witch one. Speaking of which, the same theory I found on the identity of the main villain also thinks that Shuma Gorath may have taken over Wanda's mind in a similar way to what happened to Wenwu with his wife, and that was potentially the reason that Billy and Tommy's voices were heard at the end of WandaVision. Apparently Shuma Gorath is also closely tied with Chthon, who wrote the Darkhold, which Wanda was reading when she heard her sons' voices. Needless to say, I am SUPER excited for Multiverse of Madness, I can't wait to see if they really are including Lovecraftian monstrosities into the MCU, it would work so well with Doctor Strange's reality-bending abilities 😆

[@Rumbletron828]

BTW this video is my favorite theory video [plus I love the celestial’s] the kinder egg joke had me chuckle 7:02