Why Tierlists Don't Mean Sh*t In Tournaments... Lord Kaizur

[@Kaizur]

Wow. I never thought that I would be in a Main Man video, thank you. I really appreciate all the kind words, dream come true!

[@Ace-tq9kr]

You did awesome dude, you made everyone proud!

[@YatiAcharya]

You're fkn amazing, dude 😂 Made me root for LC, wow 😂

[@GGun1t]

Never give up! Good luck in future tourneys!

[@TwinnNightmare]

I can’t even hate on your Chloe bro, good shit

[@BakedConjurer5]

dude ur amazing lucky chloe user

[@aris_everose6865]

Kaizur: *Misses backswing* Also Kaizur: “H-hyuck, I’ll fxcking do it again!!”

[@painandpyro]

Of course, because who would do that?? It's really a case of "its so dumb its actually brilliant"

[@ZeroSleap]

@@painandpyro Unpredictability vs uhm spamming huh

[@ryzen8039]

Classics goofie

[@beaniegenie8735]

like the video reference. goofie and Kaizur have something in common.

[@taseenhaider3961]

Kizur played great ' a pakistani player azhar is also a beast chloe player.

[@surprisecat7401]

10 times out of 10 I'd rather root for a Lucky Chloe player than a Leroy or Fahkumram.

[@farmboyfanGaming]

same

[@davipenha]

Kaizur was the embodiment of chaos. So unpredictable and confident that he set the pace of the entire game

[@edlerkrieger8045]

I can't believe I was rooting for a lucky chloe player

[@Dajen_Tk]

Same

[@Wockks]

She good

[@wwzzz-]

i mean the only other option is akuma...

[@rivendzi]

@@wwzzz- yup, worst option possible to root for

[@m4rcin847]

Player was really good with very pleasing to watch fight style unlike some greats with whole matches spammed by df1 and KBD. Character design is the problem for most of the people, fighting style of Chloe is pretty nice.

[@MetaliBlack666]

Kaizur was such a nice breath of fresh air to watch. Something different and unexpected to shake up the Tekken tournament scene.

[@Dajen_Tk]

If you think he "got lucky" you're crazy. This guy made top 8 at an offline event. You dont make top 8 at a major offline event by being lucky

[@MrUnc]

He puts the "Lucky" in his Chloe plays. Def deserves that top 8 placement.

[@nikkeri2816]

I mean he got got lucky... Chloe

[@jR0xas]

Top 5 even.

[@painandpyro]

And he beat other killers like Kwiss, just because the guy doesn't play the way you like, doesn't mean he isn't using strategy, there's no luck

[@xravenx24fe]

Not his first good performance at a major, I recall him playing in Top 16 (?) in the last year or two of another tournament.

[@painandpyro]

Its crazy how many people aren't seeing the clear strategy Kaizur was using against Farzeen: he's using the backswing and power crush to get around fff3 and demon flip mixups, in addition to opening up space for the longer inputs for his own running moves by making his opponent more hesitant to attack or use normal frame advantages, its really not as crazy as it looks, just high risk high reward

[@Tryhardfann]

_That's pretty much the definition of Lucky Chloe in general..._ *High Risk- High Reward*

[@कुशालपाण्डेय]

@@Tryhardfann There!

[@jR0xas]

Yeah he used it in good situations, I mean that's literally his playstyle so he knows very well when it might actually hit. Also hopkick as keep out and to crush jabs.

[@painandpyro]

@@Tryhardfann I dont think the definition of Lucky Chloe is high risk high reward at all, that would be: "Big damage, but otherwise sh*tty character." There are plenty of good Chloe players who don't rely heavily on backswing blows, that seems unique to Kaizur

[@c.conga11]

There was no strategy to anything he was doing.

[@erikkumitsubashi1048]

Kaizur had the hypest sets of 2021 hands down

[@Philippe44]

The absolute state of Tekken

[@seryux4788]

kaizurs playstyle is like the perfect example of kill quickly or get killed quickly

[@Dajen_Tk]

This guy made me not hate Chloe anymore and thats impressive. Im genuinely shocked he was able to do this

[@aleifr3967]

If you fought against a lucky chloe player like him then youd lucky chloe even more

[@ravenkyo6328]

The uchiha is watching

[@Bozzy765]

Made me hate her even more with those backswings 🤣😭

[@Guitar-Dog]

Chloe is pretty good. Her WR3 and Hellsweep are a great 50)50 if you can iWR. Her df1 has extension(s) but is -1 on block

[@Khayran]

I came close but i wouldn't go that far 😂

[@welsh_steel2285]

Chloe is 100% in T8! "I can feel it in my loins!"

[@radphoenix5872]

Personally, I see her as returning DLC. Mraven as well, and I like both characters.

[@regmatshiya1437]

I respect it, as much as I pull my hair out against these kinda “cheesy” characters if you manage to win, even if it’s partly due a lack character knowledge on your opponent’s part you should still be proud of it. Of course when people learn the match-up you might start losing but until they do keep doing you. Risks, confusion and trickery are sometimes the core of a character’s strength rather than fundamental and safe play. Also it’s fun as hell to watch players like Kaizur and Eyemusician making the best in world lose their minds😂

[@rrteppo]

She isn't the most cheesy character, the gimmick is her unsafe moves have evasive properties that make them avoid the optimal punish, and makes other people's unsafe moves wiff. But to get the wiff part you and your opponent need to hit the button at almost the same time.

[@jamesmeikle7216]

He didn't say she was the most cheesy

[@pietoeat9750]

@@jamesmeikle7216 They just wanted to vent about something, the comment doesn't even sound like a response lol

[@somethingsinlife5600]

Kaizur was not lucky to land that many backswing launches. He had a much better grip on what he was doing than people give him credit for. It wasn't just ung bunga crazy. Crazy is not this consistent at getting the results you want.

[@MarcusDobson916]

Thank you some one with sense. He is ranked very high online while all the people talking shit aren't even in blue rank lol

[@Eedorian]

Kaizur is actually pretty well known if you watch ICFC North America online tournaments.

[@Tryhardfann]

_Lucky Chloe is very strong but has a ton of weaknesses. That makes her gameplay most interesting for me alongside the unique animations._

[@madln5070]

"Unique", she has a lot of eddy moves tho.

[@Tryhardfann]

@@madln5070 _No she doesn't. She has familiar looking animations/throws but their move set is entirely different._

[@incognito9379]

So she’s strong at what she does but weak at everything else?

[@milosaga5450]

@@incognito9379 She's high risk high reward

[@yormeaceko7101]

@@Tryhardfann even in gameplay, she's basically just Eddy.

[@thatredcomet]

"Tierlists don't matter" 6 Leroy's in top 8: "This is gonna hurt"

[@xEndymionS]

Leroy parries tierlists, so they dont matter to him lmao

[@HansWurst-in3sl]

@@xEndymionS made my day hahahahahaha thx 4 that

[@Mr440c]

11:40 he did the same mistake because the brain goes: "He's gonna press now for sure!" And not: "He's gonna do backswing!" In a FT2 you can't adapt. Others adapted seeing this shit before they had to play Kaizur in the first place. Then again Kaizur either was ready for the match up knowing that this option will beat Akumer's wr move or he got lucky (LUCKY~!) with the opponent.

[@_urahara_]

The only thing that was lucky is the character's name. Everything else is calculated, well-practiced, and perfectly executed. Such awesome plays, looking forward for more :)

[@WeR2VEVO]

I'm so unbelievably glad you're making KZbin videos more frequently. Always excited to see a new vid.

[@Nawrly17]

It's true. My first tournament experience was against Ganryu, Xiaoyu, & Hwoarang. Got steamrolled

[@fancyhermit7]

I'm not all about the Tier Lists, I just play the character I like and enjoy myself

[@dasnab2231]

Not sure if anyone mentioned it, but it just seems also like he has a setup if you break that Chloe throw to put you at a good range for backswing. That was so fun to watch!

[@LauritsTTCampen]

YEEEEEEESH finally, I have been waiting for your commentary! best youtuber to react and do commentary i.m.o. :D You were probably the reason I started getting into Tekken again since childhood due to your videoes about Arslan Ash (who is still my favorite, thanks to you) I really love your content and I have been waiting and hoping for you to react, commentary and analyse the matches from CEO and of course also the hype matches with Arslan Ash :) much love and support from Denmark!

[@seiryu265]

Still unbelivable that Kaizur did all of this. Makes me proud to be a Chloe player after all this years🥴

[@Dark_Crow_Official]

Me too bro)

[@shafir2]

🤨📸

[@darrenpingüino]

Bro... Makes me proud she's got me 2000 subs

[@HoDoBoDo]

When I watched this fight, I couldn't believe I was rooting for Chloe 😭💀.

[@taseenhaider3961]

this is the funniest cartoon I've seen in my life.

[@Guitar-Dog]

Howdy! This was a great set, was hype for offline Tekken again

[@taseenhaider3961]

A pakistani guy named azhar is a beast lucky player who fought aginst Arslan.

[@RandomGameClips27]

@@taseenhaider3961 yall pakistan fanboys cant stop self-promoting your own players, cant you? Go eat pork lol

[@TheOverdriver1]

To me, Kaizur figured out his opponent's spacing after the first match, and improved as the match went on, coz all those backswing blows were perfectly placed! And if you've versed a good lucky chloe player, you know she has some insane evasive moves, her u4 hopkick is literally highcrushes and almost unpunishable btw lol

[@matthewsnover8320]

Kaizur plays a lot in ICFC, a Tekken tournament every Wednesday

[@KirraZirra]

Right I was thinking the same thing. He has been doing this almost weekly for months.

[@shiekastate]

I like K-Wiss, but he looked super dazed after the loss. I can guarantee he's thinking 'I just lost...to THAT?'

[@KirraZirra]

I think it was the df4 fake into dance mixup that forced his reaction... that shit was crazy. 😄

[@johnnytheratface]

“MAKE HIM WATCH THE MOVIE” is the best commentary I’ve heard in a long time

[@1starfalco1]

Kaizur : Misses backswing blow Kaizur : your only minus if your a scrub *Does backswing blow a second time in a row and does 99999 damage to the opponent*

[@farmboyfanGaming]

i remembered this excerpt from an anime or something, talks about the a challenge to break in to this most secured house. Renowned thieves failed to do so. One thief successfully did, "by using the front door".

[@tantalizingfgc]

Just a great showcasing of what I was saying for years...LC is fun to play, period 😁😂

[@MrJaCC_]

I have the same issue with “keep doing the same stuff” because I don’t except people to do the same extremely risky shit over and over, damn. 😂

[@federicoramirez2466]

Proof that you can make any character work, which is great!

[@kondziox11]

kaizur with cloe, anakin with jack in final, both doing cool things and it's really nice to see

[@Panthro-lo2lh]

Some call it random, some call it heroic, I call it entertaining.

[@The_Humble_Hurricane]

The title of this video has been my mindset my entire life. Difficulty be damned. Either you make the correct decisions and have the necessary skills and focus to complete your objective or you don't.

[@cheeseUout]

Being top tier is a double edged sword. An example is Wesker and Phoenix in Marvel Vs Capcom 3. They were incredibly OP (and still OP after whatever patches) but they were used so much that everybody that bothered to study the characters knew most of the setups and animations and tricks that nothing was working, and those two characters quickly fell off the Pro player's character roster. Some stuck to them but for very specific reasons (team makup, combo potential, etc.). But rarely did anybody use Wesker and Phoenix for the purpose of OPing out the other guy.

[@GORO911]

Not surprised. Always knew how tough Lucky Chloe was through my experience against her online. I struggle against noobs who cheesed their way to high ranks using her. Was always worried about having to face an actual good player who uses her cause then she would turn deadly.

[@jk844100]

Chloe’s running 3 is very underrated; very plus on block and unlike most running 3s it gives a guaranteed follow-up on hit with dash up b1 (even mid stage)

[@EynkiYoom]

Even the hatred towards lucky chloe cant compete with the hatred towards Akuma.

[@citrus_manndarin]

The guy was playing online offline

[@lumiverinightstar228]

As a player of Josie, armor king, gigas, heihachi and lucky Chloe. This was amazing to see.

[@insipid_yt]

this set will forever be in the top 10 goated tekken sets of all time. it’s so entertaining

[@happ0bapp0]

also when i first saw this i was blown away that kwiss didn’t take it lmao but kaizur canceling that low and faking out into another low was so sick lmao

[@josepartida1711]

He did that in NA icfc. Blew everyone’s minds 😆

[@ohtwitchy9371]

Been waiting for another great commentary from anothers perspective

[@kintsuki99]

Dude waited untill it was clear there would be no more updates to the game to bring his character out so it doesn't get nerfed when shown to be OP.

[@CDodger24]

My goodness.. how did he manage to pull that off against Akuma is beyond me.

[@Darktotaled]

lack of match up knowledge. Doesnt matter which character you play, if you dont know what the other guy can do, the whole game is a 50/50 soup.

[@Lukasz5424]

Kaizur is just straight up giving out a "Fuck meta, fuck core gameplay, backswing blow his ass" vibe.

[@MEGASTRIX]

This dude made Backswing blow look so friggin OP. But that definitely required footsies level of spacing.

[@themosthighvaluemaninthega9048]

To be fair, there was no footsies going on. He used it well, but he never once backdashed to get it to hit, he just did it when he felt he could get away with it and took advantage of the built in evasion.

[@MEGASTRIX]

@@themosthighvaluemaninthega9048 True . I guess he got a better feel of the move better than others.

[@FeddaCheezy]

I think this is the only video where TMM praises anything to do with Chloe

[@Shibu_PL]

Cool to see something fresh opposed to typical tournament snoozefest.

[@JohnDoe-dd7ne]

TMMS: “Tier lists don’t matter in tournaments.” LMG Mob, Playing Lars: “You’re goddamn right.”

[@BlueJin503]

Wiss was pissed. Still waiting for him to post the match and get his thoughts

[@genzo454]

It's already on his Twitter, 3 days ago: "Didn’t expect my game to be first on stream so I just walked straight in no warm up and just played. No excuses, Kaizur played well and it’s time for my trademark Loser’s bracket run"

[@dowzjohn4011]

When bullshiit is actual smart and get reflexion behind the action. That Kaizur, one few who make bullshiit(AKA Chloe) actually smart and fun to watch. His skill talk for himself

[@luay_khan]

Y’all gotta respect kaizur and farzeen in our community

[@countlessbathory1485]

There is a method to Kaizur's madness kind of like Boa.

[@Hemess]

Masher ❌ Unpredicable✅

[@Wyrmixx]

Kaizur brought the online strats

[@flyingfrogofdeath9616]

I know some tournament players use pad but the fact Kaizur is a pad Lucky Chloe player just makes this even funnier to me - surrounded by "try-hards" with stick and my dudes just chilling w/ PS4 pad. Awesome

[@Ravemaster620]

Never thought I'd see this MU in an actual tournament. I'm personally comfortable with the MU but only because I've been playing it since S1

[@shigshug8581]

That was pure entertainment, both the game and the commentary.

[@ModernDayWarriors]

The hype in the room for both those sets was amazing!

[@shutfix]

Every time Farzeen close his eyes, he see backswing blow now. Hope he doesn’t have sleep problems

[@1991jj]

We need more players like this. Bunga at elite level is awesome to watch.

[@PassionFlame64]

Holy crap, Kaizur is amazing! He did an amazing job!

[@MaskedGuyCh]

Kaizur definitely delivered entertaining sets.

[@lynce..]

He won cuz of his perfect iwr and perfectly set up backswing.. Tho he did some really stupid stuff, kaizur definitely a mad lad..

[@larevolution13]

Tier lists apply but only on a personal level you cant expect the same gameplay or the same respect from a random stranger but if we are about to deathmatch and let's say we are on the same execution and knowledge level then tiers are a thing.

[@Fejiiva]

For him to beat k-wiss it’s omg much respect for lucky 🍀

[@SaltedMallows]

Kaiser looks like a comeback machine

[@therealmccoy2004]

I've never watched a match where I cried and laughed at the same time!! Lol😂😢 I almost started liking chloe after this lol

[@ImTiredBossYT]

During the stream a guy in chat asked if this was Pakistan space program , i fucking died there lmao . Offline Tekken is great i miss TWT and evo so much

[@Gabi24492]

18:57 most sexy yeah i've ever heard

[@michelleh1464]

Now Lucky Chole is confirmed for Tekken 8. :D

[@Tenchua917]

17:05 That face lmao, yea chloe rage drive has a follow up where you have to time 1+2 that does fck ton of damage, most of her rage arts/drive has a gimmicky rhythm game to it

[@fsh_outta_wtr]

Most lol? There's just 2

[@Hand0verFist]

Lmao that ending was hilarious. I hate Akuma players. Was a great watch!

[@AshishAroraa]

Yes. I prefer Chloe's BS over Akuma's BS.

[@darkshaman98]

As a Chloe main this brings me great joy

[@trollerplays9124]

Kaizar In Front Of Ash! Ash: Let Me See, Dances! Ash: End With 2 Perfect Calm!

[@Wizard_Lizard_]

Something I hate about the Tekken community is that people who play aggressively or have an unorthodox style are called mashers. Like, heaven forbid that someone isn't super patient and doesn't just use poking tools all match.

[@AshishAroraa]

Those people should know themselves that mashing against skilled opponents is harder. You will most likely get owned if you mash.

[@ohskunt9416]

I've been waiting for this😂.

[@goldenbaster22]

Sometimes the biggest mind game is no mind games at all and just do it again.

[@ngocatnguyen5771]

Beside the frame disadvantage, Lucky Chloe is a 150kg muscle man inside her. She pack a bazillion damage in her, her 50/50 is too good. You can win 50 streak with Lucky Chloe or Nina in the low-mid rank if you know how to handle her. I struggled with her all the time in Yellow rank.

[@FerventFourEyes]

I really dont understand why this is called a greenrank strat. Most experienced players either backdash or ss in those situations where he did the backswings. This is an extremely viable strategy and pretty advanced to be able to do it consistently.

[@obeesrcconstruction9279]

Kaizur is the man when it comes to Chloe and I've been playing her for years and can't do what he does.

[@2Syndras1Cup]

What a wildcard, I love it.

[@genzo454]

Now this was hilarious, but if I had to face this shit you would know 100% I would have no chill

[@Flight000]

The salt is marinating😂😂💀

[@NeutralReacts]

Most fun I had watching that character. does this guy stream?

[@darrenpingüino]

She's deadly on the right hands, tier lists dont matter at all

[@WarframeCrunch]

6:24 Dude comeone... the laughts....

[@ScrambledEggAbdullah]

I don't like lucky Chloe same as you but the way he played her made me want to genuinely practice playing lucky Chloe.but I don't think akuma's the right character for Brother Farzeen. He was dropping a lot of combos

[@jR0xas]

He's literally one of the best Akumas in the world. What do you mean? Lmao

[@ScrambledEggAbdullah]

@@jR0xas Yeah I hadn't watched farzeen before and the way he was playing made it look like he hasn't played akuma that much but it looks like it was a bad day for him maybe he's a bit rusty

[@AndroonArcade]

He was pressured because when you don't expect such character in good hands then you have to control nerves and he is just a kid Kaizur really performed well

[@LauritsTTCampen]

Farzeen is young (18) and inexperienced. This is his first big tournament (first time traveling) so he was defintely mentally effected. Normally back in Pakistan, he has matches where even Arslan has trouble beating him.

[@acehendo]

Ok, the K-Wiss Tier list makes sense now.

[@EvilPineappl]

Never thought I'd see MM talking up Chloe

[@Nobbi_Habogs]

Im rank 20, but TBH i think, the reason why kaizur did so well has 2 reasons: 1) He is a good player with a very good sense for the enemy and spacing 2) Kaizur aggressiveness works perfect on player who dont know the spacing really well on chloe. Because u can be agressive as u want to be, as long as u dont get hit. Frames dont matter if u get spaced perfectly. 3 matches are just not enough time to adapt and learn maybe. i dont want to talk bad abour Kaizur (i love him), but its my thought why he crushes akuma so hard here.

[@VengeanceTK]

That thumbnail is wild lmaooo

[@mortihucay566]

Because of this f***** ranked ins now full with lucky chloe

[@HardStyleMarkoo]

So weird how you mentioned about pickin akuma instead of a mishima. Cause i did just that. I got kazuya and heihachi to yaksa first tho

[@namenotfound8747]

Not surprised kwiss lost, he seems to think if you are from the US, you can’t be that good. If he was playing a top Korean player he would respect their skill set a little more I think.

[@NeoZero85]

There is that and he wasn't ducking or at least watching the lows because of fear of the launchers