Why TMNT (2012) has one of the Worst DVD Box Sets

[@41dn]

The difference between you and Scott's stash is that this is probably a real carpet

[@doofusdan_]

You would be correct

[@Adamwinters]

DVD releases are a lost art since like 2010. These days, we are so happy to get physical releases at all, we ignore the terrible quality.

[@doofusdan_]

@@Adamwinters Given how few series gets sets at this point I don’t think we can really blame people

[@bowserbreaker2515]

The DVD release of Puss in Boots: The Last Wish is surprisingly good.

[@joevictor53]

That's so true. As soon as Blu-ray and streaming came out, DVD releases started going downhill in quality. Like you said, we were just forced to be happy with what little we got and accept that. But then they didn't even switch to Blu-ray releases. They just gave up completely on so many releases

[@SerpentHashiraObanaiIguro]

All the effort goes into 4Ks and Blu-rays. I usually import mine from Japan, anime or otherwise. They put more care into packaging and on-disc content design, and give bonus goods, like how Japanese Marvel 4Ks come with complementary 3D and Blu-ray copies, plus gifts like mugs.

[@boogerman908]

I guess if you ignore how everything used to be released in volumes instead of seasons sure

[@jaredthebc5926]

I have this set and tbh it hurts that one of my favorite childhood shows was treated so poorly with this set. Absolutely screams “we had to get rid of old inventory quickly”

[@doofusdan_]

The need to get rid of inventory is certainly what it felt like

[@JamesLawner]

The amount of care put into those Spongebob DVDs compared to that TMNT set is a night&day difference!

[@doofusdan_]

The First 100 Episodes is one of the highest quality sets I’ve had experience with personally. Unique menus for each disc with exclusive bonus features.

[@killerquinn64]

@@doofusdan_ it's a fantastic set but sadly it's been ruined for me because of the Simpsons and Futurama sets having even more going for them: deleted scenes, extras, and commentaries on every episode rather than a few select s5 episodes (as great as those are) but it's definitely up there for me, it's an amazing set

[@connorolson1752]

This is the exact type of niche internet content that makes my brain release the feel good chemicals

[@doofusdan_]

Happy to be the one to make good brain chemicals release

[@RandomBlackGamer]

I'm sick of companies producing piss poor physical media. There's no reason why standard def DVD's are still a thing. It literally cost pennies on a dollar to buy a blu-ray player nowadays. Blu-ray discs can hold a lot more space and preserve the overal quality of the footage. Not to mention it minimizes the amount of discs companies have to produce. Hence allowing you to preserve more shelf space in your collection. People shouldn't have to deal with this anymore.

[@doofusdan_]

It’s really frustrating seeing companies insist it’s the most viable format. The argument used to be that dvds were far more accessible since not everyone had a blu-ray player. With your point that blu-ray players are rather cheap now they really don’t have an excuse anymore.

[@RandomBlackGamer]

@@doofusdan_ I know right? It reminds me when NCircle tried to use that BS excuse when fans told them that they'd much rather have the Sonic SATAM series in standard definition on Blu-Ray.

[@Ace_of_Horns]

@@RandomBlackGamer that's a good point, I'm still waiting for a spongebob series blu ray release.

[@ComicBooksandVideoGameNerd96]

I own all three shows on DVD. They have their own problems episodes are out of order, etc but it should be noted that this is the only show that has Blu-ray the other two Ninja Turtles shows DVD only

[@LxMxNxG]

Personally I prefer DVD due to being able to run on basically anything with a disc drive released passed 2001, as well as easy to rip. I think companies should give the option for bluray, but DVD it makes sense for a kids show like this, it's cheaper and works on more, i just wish they put slightly more effort into making them easier to watch one after the other here

[@slaterism2762]

the discs not being numbered should be a CRIME.

[@doofusdan_]

Personally I consider it a crime

[@pantyosashu8137]

It’s the same thing with KZbinrs not numbering their let’s plays and other shit.

[@slaterism2762]

@@pantyosashu8137 well at least youtube videos are free lol this is something you pay for

[@staringcorgi6475]

@@pantyosashu8137what’s so bad about using numbers like if you’re afraid of the algorithm hating numbers for some reason use Roman numerals or write them out.

[@DaltonLunday2103]

No TMNT set will ever beat the complete 80s series that used the turtle van as the case.

[@doofusdan_]

I’ve always been interested in that set. Not sure how practical the van package is but I always thought it looked cool

[@supermariof0521]

@@doofusdan_ Didn't that set have the issue of episodes being out of order?

[@doofusdan_]

@@supermariof0521 sounds right to me. I believe James Rolfe talked about the set and I think that was an issue he mentioned

[@supermariof0521]

@@doofusdan_ I don't get why companies feel the need to release "Complete Series" Sets out of order.

[@itsjayden8002]

What the "correct" order is has been debated for some time. Certain websites change the orders around with different airdates and production codes, but I recommend watching it in blog user TMNT Entity's episode order(I also recommend reading his episode reviews).

[@ModokFan]

The lack of numbers on the discs would really bother me tbh, but I have been meaning to get the tmnt shows physically so I may buy it

[@doofusdan_]

Like I said in the video, given the price, it wouldn't be a waste of money

[@wannabkain4400]

Some guy on Amazon reviews put a watch disc order so I printed his list and put it in the box, I thank that person 😅

[@mecojean4119]

It's hilarious how they had more caring with the discs of the show with random plots than the one with a chronological order

[@doofusdan_]

Honestly, don’t think any other Nicktoons set has these issues other than the actual case

[@ethanwayne6973]

​​@@doofusdan_You mentioned it being the last few episodes. I heard somewhere that the last few episodes were actually ran out of order by Nickelodeon and not how the people that made the show intended for it to be watched. So maybe they arranged it back?

[@nerdatello]

@@ethanwayne6973 yeah the last arc of the show in the production order was the mutant apocalypse arc, but nickelodeon didn't want the series finale to be that dark so they made the 3-part crossover with the '87 turtles (wanted: bebop & rocksteady) to be the series finale lol. they did swap it back in the box set which is super interesting

[@ethanwayne6973]

@nerdatello I wonder if it's because they just copied the raw files to disks

[@masteroflight7296]

Unlike Blu-ray which are super scratch resistant, DVD's scratch just by looking at it. Putting the disc's back to back insures it will get destroyed

[@TAGanimation]

The most unforgiving DVD sets in my opinion are the DBZ "orange bricks" sets. But yeah, this set doesnt look too well put-together.

[@Aserl]

It's truly a shame there is no "definitive" DBZ set.

[@doofusdan_]

From what I’ve gathered a lot of DBZ on home media has issues. I know there was a fan restoration recently of GT as I guess the dvd colors were completely inaccurate

[@theshygamer3633]

​@doofusdan_ to make a long story short for the z home media releases The dvd singles are the best way to watch the show even if the first 17 volumes are English only and are censored (remember this is the ocean dub). The orange bricks are terrible and unfortunately gaslighted every casual fan into thinking it was this 16:9 overly saturated and blindingly bright show. The dragon box set is a fan favorite despite the colors being degraded and the sound effects being a bit off time unfortunately this set is stupid expensive to own now. The level up blu ray is amazing as it's a good hd scan of the show unfortunately it was canceled only two volumes in. The blu ray season sets are somehow even worse than the orange bricks as not only is it cropped to 16:9 again the cropping is worse as its cuts off more stuff from the top and bottom the video quality is worse than the dvds. The steel books are awful as it's just the blu ray season sets but without the cropping and they didn't even do that correctly as not only was it advertised like it's something people should look forward to, it's not even the correct aspect ratio so it's somehow worse

[@MrZilla]

​@doofusdan_ It gets real bad. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mGTMopSpbbF7r68si=VUELoFy9jhLp_dQl

[@32lilbruce]

At the least the disc's onthe brick set were numbered though lol

[@sketchyartist2007]

The Rugrats complete series is worse. There are 26 discs with the same packaging style and there is no episode list. Companies these days are being lazy with releasing stuff on physical media

[@doofusdan_]

@@sketchyartist2007 funny enough both are Paramount so I can’t say I’m too surprised

[@dogmd7]

@@doofusdan_ Spongebob is Paramount too so it seems like they don't care about titles not Spongebob...

[@chrisrockett5897]

​@@dogmd7And that's kinda crazy because Rugrats was a flagship.

[@Xx_psych0-rabbit_xX]

god the second you showed how the discs have to be removed i immediately thought "those are gonna accidentally snap one day" so happy to hear that is a worry regarding packaging and not just me being paranoid youre not expected to baby the discs like i did as a kid after i noticed how flexible they were lol

[@doofusdan_]

If I gotta flex the disc an uncomfortable amount I take issue with the set

[@peytonrusher325]

the designs on the tmnt discs look abysmal, just a boring ass gray chrome

[@doofusdan_]

@@peytonrusher325 welcome to the Hell hole that is Paramount disc art, or just modern disc art at this point.

[@ShockwaveFPSStudios]

@@doofusdan_Modern Disc Art.

[@Zer0effort]

I mean was it really that hard to put stock art on a disk, pathetic

[@jwess02]

I’ve been desperately hoping that someone like Shout! Factory comes around to do a proper complete series Blu-Ray box set for this series.

[@RandomBlackGamer]

I'll take them or Discotek anyday.

[@doofusdan_]

I would really like if Shout! took over show releases for most companies. Their Gravity Falls set is great and their Nickelodeon stuff is all solid.

[@Sir.Felix1590]

@@RandomBlackGamer fr

[@chrisrockett5897]

Shout! are GODS when it comes to releases.

[@mateus02681]

I had their Hey Arnold! box.

[@Bianca-c7f]

Hahaha, the click sound grosses you out!! I get what you mean, though, I broke a Psych DVD where they stack more on one little thingy haha🤦‍♀ It was my favorite disk too😭

[@doofusdan_]

I’m sorry for your loss 😔

[@The_Sentai_System]

Already hated this box set (bought it last year and was so disappointed by the discs and their order). You did convince me to pick up those Spongebob sets though.

[@doofusdan_]

@@The_Sentai_System happy to hear that, the First 100 Episodes is great

[@Totavier]

Have to admit that I really liked the box itself of the SpongeBob set. Because since is a little bulky it remind me the boxes of a VHS tape, lol. But the TMNT one..., that was a monstrosity.

[@doofusdan_]

@@Totavier I can’t deny that the large cases command presence on a shelf. The TMNT set is certainly something though

[@brave_sir_robin54]

I hate when dvd companies won't include a guide to what episodes are on what disc. If I want to watch an entire series and stop at at some point, I have to look up a guide to figure out what disc I left off on.

[@doofusdan_]

You really shouldn’t have to look up anything when using a dvd set

[@TokuAndAnimationNewsNetwork]

There is no reason this should NOT be a BD set. It's a complete insult to the work that was put into the series.

[@doofusdan_]

I mean there is a reason, it’s just that it would require more effort and money from them. Not exactly a good reason but y’know

[@tedioustotoro4885]

Yeah, I think the two Avatar series are the only Nick shows with blu-ray releases

[@doofusdan_]

@@tedioustotoro4885 you would be correct, and that will be a talking point in an upcoming video

[@VaniRoyal]

To me Blue rays are just dvds that don’t work in my Xbox and look worse on a shelf

[@lunabourke3923]

​@@VaniRoyalDisagree, I got the SU Season 5 on dvd and not Blu Ray on accident, and the video and audio quality was clearly worse. (side note, hate the packaging for Season 5, it came out quite late, and it didn't follow the same look, with the previous four featuring a Crystal Gem, with the one before being Ruby - that character's gem stone, and images featuring them in, five clearly should have been Sapphire, but is a generic image of the Crystal Gems, that is wrong for the season). Blu Rays can hold more information, so the packaging issues experienced here wouldn't be as much as of an issue. (which Xbox do you have btw? Xbox Ones can play Blu-Rays)

[@briskdarthmaul]

Nick should've give this show and others to Shout! Factory! Their DVD releases of Jimmy Neutron, Angry Beavers, Wild Thornberry's, CatDog and their out-of-print versions of Rocko's Modern Life and Hey Arnold felt like they are made with love and care with stuff like reliable packaging and disc art. Paramount used to do a good job on Nick DVDs until the mid to late 2000s where the quality is slipping. I still have the mental scars from the SpongeBob Next 100 Episodes DVDs lazily reusing data from the season 6 - 9 sets instead doing what they did with the First 100 Episode box set and make new data.

[@doofusdan_]

@@briskdarthmaul I got a few of Shout’s box sets and they’re pretty high quality. Really hope they get the license to more Nicktoons, would love for My Life as a Teenage Robot specifically to get a set.

[@flybuttero]

Me too its really unfortunate how they're doing this for every box set at this point its the exact same way for the another 100 episodes set and still didn't add kwarantined krab

[@oldman5247]

Sadly they made the same design choice. For the 2003 TMNT show when they released the whole thing.

[@doofusdan_]

@@oldman5247 I’ve been interested in that set but I’ve heard it has some problems of its own

[@oldman5247]

@@doofusdan_ Each disc has episodes written on them. But no indication of what season it is. The quality of the episodes (in terms of picture presentation) varies in quality. From being no better than the KZbin uploads of the 2003 show. To being a decent clean up of the episodes. Plus, the 2009 Turtles Forever movie included in the box set. Is the standard release of the movie. When there is a version of the movie. That adds ten extra minutes. That greatly increases the quality of the movie.

[@doofusdan_]

That’s a bummer for sure, especially regarding the video quality as the original 4Kids releases weren’t too great in that department either

[@KFXG]

​@doofusdan_ Oldman is right. There's no separation between seasons with each of the 03 discs, so the start of season 2 will be on the same disc as the end of season 1. There also isn't any sort of episode guide in the case like what is in the 2012 case. The only thing you get is what you see on the outside cover, and then plain grey discs with "Episodes 1-9", Episodes 10-18" etc. on each disc. The discs will probably be loose in that dogshit case as well. I've put every individual disc into their own cases because of that. The last episode of the show also uses the censored version, and Turtles Forever isn't the extended cut, and is actually a trimmed down version from the standalone home video release. So it's basically an even shorter version of the short version of the movie, which is crazy. The 03 set was even more of a lazy box set than the 2012 one. There are other issues as well like the inconsistentpicture quality that Oldman mentioned (it didn't really bother me too much, though, but one would expect it to be better than it is), but at least every episode of the show is finally available on DVD, so it's worth it if you value actually owning physical media. However, don't expect something stellar. No joke, I've seen bootleg box sets that are better quality and more lovingly put together than the "official" release. Unfortunately, it's simply a quick cash grab, and another "fuck you" to the 03 TMNT fans. It was thrown out just so they can say "There. You got it. Shut up now." The fact that it isn't available in stores like Walmart should tell you everything. It's only available online.

[@Futuredynamo]

@@oldman5247 I haven't picked this set up yet. I likely will at some point when it is on a good sale. I mainly want it for the Back to the Sewer episodes. I have the previous DVD releases from years ago. While the episodes are out of order on some of the sets, from what I understand the quality is better overall (more on that in a bit). But regarding the order of the episodes on this new complete series set, and how the seasons break down, me being the nerd I am when it comes to these things, and here is what I figured out: Discs 1-13 add up to Seasons 1-5. The discs are not separate by season (meaning one season ends and the next starts in the middle of the same disc), BUT these are the seasons that were when the show was simply titled TMNT. Discs 14-16 are all of Season 6 and the first episode of Season 7, or in other words, all of Fast Forward. Even though Season 7 is the "Back to the Sewer" season, the first episode picks up when they are still in the future and still uses the FF intro. So like I said, it is all of FF. Discs 17 and 18 are the rest of Season 7 (back to the sewer) and Turtles Forever. While it does stink that these are not properly separated by seasons, it is at least nice that they are separated by when the show changes title. If someone wanted to move the discs into better cases than what this comes in, and make/print custom covers, they could separate them by the title changes and in the case of season 1-5, just give them volume numbers if multiple cases are needed. From what I understand, Turtles Forever on this set is TERRIBLE. Supposedly the video quality is really bad, and it is even more cut up than the previous Paramount/Nickelodeon DVD release of it (which was already the TV version and not the extended cut). So if you get this set, it is highly advised to still get either the stand along release of Turtles Forever, or import the UK DVD which is the extended version (but is region locked). One this that disappoints me about this release (and is part of why I haven't gotten it yet and I'm wait for a REALLY GOOD sale), and is becoming far too common of a problem with old tv shows released on DVD these days, is that while the show is of course 4:3, the DVD itself is formatted to be 16:9, which the black bars on the sides of the screen being an embedded part of the image. This may not seem like a big deal when watching on a modern TV, but it does result in a lower quality image than having it properly formatted at 4:3 on the disc, and then letting the equipment (TV, player) add in the black bars. Plus I still have some old 4:3 CRT TVs that I use for retro gaming, and sometimes I may watch an old TV show DVD on them. Having these formatted in this way screws that up, adding black bars to the top and bottom, and basically making the show be a small square in the middle of the screen surrounded by black on all sides.

[@Benjamillion]

As much as I enjoyed the 2012 series as an adult when it came out, I can't help but agree with all of your points here. Physical preservation is important but Nickelodeon treating the TMNT franchise like dirt is so sad.

[@charmoo16]

omg why do they keep using the same bs stacking method case every single time they do a DVD release?!

[@charmoo16]

like this is why blu-ray needs to become more adapted so we're less likely to get stacked discs like this.

[@doofusdan_]

You’d think they’d stack less sense they could fit more on each disc but the Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul sets say otherwise. At least in those sets since they’re blu-ray they are less likely to get scratched.

[@staringcorgi6475]

@@charmoo16it is more adapted in the western world or where ever modern tech isn’t ovepriced

[@ana.wordswordswords]

before the video even loaded beyond the first frame i was like “scott the woz?” 😭

[@doofusdan_]

It didn’t occur to me until right before I began recording that I was basically copying his second channel’s format

[@LittleLexi24]

I love that Scott’s Stash has turned into a genre.

[@bluetarantulaproductions6179]

As a big fan of TMNT since the '87 cartoon and the first four movies (Micheal Bay ones are 50/50 for me), I enjoy the 2012 series and own every individual set on dvd, not a fan of the newer stuff.

[@SaddieMoon]

4:14 And what’s even worse, they didn’t even need to number the discs if they just slapped the names of the discs next to the Disc Numbers on the box.

[@doofusdan_]

They wouldn’t have needed to change the discs at that point. Don’t know if all that text would have fit though

[@holeofdarn]

“If you buy shows online you don’t really own them! Physical DVDs are the best!” The physical DVDs in question:

[@doofusdan_]

@@holeofdarn thankfully, most sets from my experience don’t face a good chunk of these issues. That said, it’s a bummer when they do as they are often the only physical release for a series

[@RyneMcKinney]

The Rugrats complete series set is even more tedious because of the sheer amount discs and how easy it is to damage them

[@doofusdan_]

Another set I’ve been interested in simply because it’s the easiest way to get the whole series but the case is putting me off from buying it

[@ThePillowGamer]

Not as bad that one Back to the Future special edition blu ray release (that required INSTRUCTIONS to get to the discs)

[@doofusdan_]

@@ThePillowGamer recently found out about this, actually idiotic

[@blazingspeeds8330]

I can confirm a couple episodes in the Season 1 and 2 discs are out of order with each other (According to the Paramount+ order). So if those are out of order, then the rest probably are too. This isn’t the first time, they’ve butchered something like this. TMNT Forever’s DVD release especially was just sad.

[@doofusdan_]

TMNT on dvd in general seems to be quite sad

[@ashtonsomethingsomething9940]

I feel bad for any kid that got this for their birthday or something.

[@doofusdan_]

I can imagine excitement quickly turning into confusion and frustration.

[@conixel]

@@doofusdan_kid- I HATE YOU TUTRTLE

[@conixel]

@@doofusdan_mom- WHAT THE FU- mmmm….Help me lord.. WHY WOULD YOU SHIT ON THE DISC. Lo- Lord help.

[@Foxxyz_official]

Oh they did my childhood reboot of the Turtles dirty

[@doofusdan_]

I’m sorry to say they really did

[@JazzyKitsune69]

The complete rugrats box set is set up similar with tons of discs stacked on top of each other and it’s annoying

[@doofusdan_]

From what I’ve gathered from this comment section I’m going to be grabbing the individual releases for that series

[@ToonamiT0M]

I collected the TMNT 2012 DVDs as they were being released. I had to use a Sharpie to write the season and disk number on each disk to make sure I was able to identify them and keep them in order.

[@doofusdan_]

I imagine it helps keeping the discs organized

[@albinoninja0224]

As a fan of the 2003 show i was pretty hyped when I saw this for 20$ and I was very excited to watch it, only to be very disappointed once I realized the discs weren't numbered and I needed a guide on what order to watch it in. It's also a little disappointing anytime you get the boring grey discs but I wasn't expecting more with how cheap it was.

[@doofusdan_]

The set is by and large disappointing but at least it’s only $20

[@Edgy_Rabbid]

THANK YOU. This has been bothering me ever since I got the thing! I had to mark which disk has which episode!

[@doofusdan_]

Honestly not a bad idea, I’m considering doing that myself

[@Ultra-Den]

It's even worse with the South Park boxset, the disks are numbered, but they don't include a episode guide 😵‍💫

[@doofusdan_]

That’s unfortunate, but at least you know the order the discs go in. . .

[@KSWAN1287]

I have two box sets like this. This series and the complete series of rugrats. I absolutely hate this style of packaging. Right out of the gate they come heavily scratched and looked used because the discs are stacked and rubbing on top of one another. There’s absolutely no reason for this kind of release.

[@doofusdan_]

It’s a really frustrating experience as in theory it’s the best way to quickly obtain the entirety of these shows but the quality of the packaging says otherwise

[@TediousMilkshake]

The doctor who collection blu rays really go above and beyond in terms of box sets

[@doofusdan_]

@@TediousMilkshake I’ve heard good things about those sets, it helps they actually get released on Blu-ray

[@TediousMilkshake]

@@doofusdan_ i just got the new season 25 set this weekend! I love the packaging and special features that come with it, the new set has updated effects for every episode... 🤯

[@ShockwaveFPSStudios]

It really sucks how the Streaming & Digital Releases of the 2012 Ninja Turtles have better quality then the Fucking DVD releases. Freaking Streaming!

[@Rafielo]

I used to put DVDs in jewel cases for easier reachablility instead of opening dvd box sets each time, but now it seems like a thing I'm gonna have to do by default due to the stupid inneficient way the boxes keep discs nowadays. I'd recommend printing custom made dvd box arts over using them the way they come by default...😒

[@doofusdan_]

A few loose discs of mine are in CD jewel cases, might have to look into this for some of my sets

[@LeopoldLitchenstein]

Truthfully, I bought this just to have it so I haven't really cracked it open. Same with the 2003 series one where I was just happy to finally have the full show physically. Usually if I'm getting a box set it's just for convenience, since I have most streaming services and would opt to rewatch the shows that way, the box set is just in the event said show gets removed for any reason. Plus I had the 87 box set (not the new one they announced recently) and wanted the other two shows (not a Rise fan but hope fans of it get a box set that has effort put in)

[@doofusdan_]

@@LeopoldLitchenstein at this point my SpongeBob sets are just in the event they get removed from Prime as the digital versions look much cleaner than the dvds

[@LeopoldLitchenstein]

@doofusdan_ I actually don't have the SpongeBob compilations because I want to wait for a full box set. I'll be waiting forever I know, but still. Might go for First 100 and Next 100 secondhand at some point

[@emirlsanchos6302]

I'm not too fond of this DVD box format for any show. They cram the discs tightly over top each other where you're forced to extract a few in order to find the proper one where you last left off at, increasing the chances of wear and tear, and are generally unreliable as protective storage with the discs constantly jangling. It's also not uncommon to find some top discs tumbling out of their holds every time you either first open the box or turn an interior section.

[@doofusdan_]

It is rather prone to damaging the discs which is obviously not something you want from a dvd set

[@bmasters1981]

I had that problem for the first time starting in 2018 when I got CBS' all-in-one DVD of The Streets of San Francisco (that 70s ABC police procedural from Quinn Martin w/Malden, Douglas and Hatch); at first, I didn't know what I was dealing with, so I had to take it slow and get used to it. I had much the same problems you're describing w/having to keep discs in order, albeit I did finish the show (other shows I had to deal with that on have been that hit 50s and 60s CBS B/W Western Have Gun Will Travel w/Richard Boone; the original 50s and 60s B/W Untouchables series that was on ABC w/Robert Stack as Eliot Ness; and the 70s NBC hit medical/action series Emergency! from Universal [all of those, I have completed]).

[@OKTANE0]

I wonder if your "Scott's Stash Camera Pointed at Carpet" setup is as confusingly complex as Scott's "Scott's Stash Camera Pointed at Carpet" setup

[@doofusdan_]

As funny as that would be, I’m afraid to say my setup uses actual carpet flooring

[@Nights-gh2hn]

If I had that set, I would get a Sharpie (Permanent Marker) and write a number on each and every disc and put them in those DVD book things and have the list of episodes put in with them. Sure it doesn't sound like a good idea, but it sure beats doing all those tedious tasks that you went through.

[@doofusdan_]

Many have saying they would and HAVE used a sharpie on this set, sounds like I should do the same

[@ill_hex8103]

I think one of the worst cases I've ever owned was a special edition Halo 5 case. It's bulkier to hold the bonuses, but the latches were fragile. The spindle also held onto the game disc for dear life, as if it was warning you how awful Halo 5 was going to be. It also came with my mortal enemy; Box Sleeves.

[@doofusdan_]

Honestly on you for buying Halo 5, no but seriously that sucks

[@KatOwO2235]

worst part was the discs were in super stiff tall disc holders that felt like if I didn't take it slow, I could break a disc, plus I needed to keep out each set of 4 discs in order so I could watch it, I binged the series and loved it but I've seen a case of similar style done better without stiffness, Harry Potter 8 disc set had normal disc holders, didn't stack the discs, but it increased the amount of normal disc holders and pages to fit the discs in a safe manner

[@doofusdan_]

@@KatOwO2235 I wish I emphasized my fear of breaking the discs a bit more because it’s definitely a fear of mine with this set

[@Burtsmask]

I recently bought a Beavis and Butthead complete collection set and it literally SUCKED. It was missing a ton of episodes and the episodes were just the Mike Judge Collection.

[@doofusdan_]

@@Burtsmask from what I know a lot of MTV shows get botched on home media for one reason or another. It’s a shame as they’ve produced a lot of stuff.

[@Burtsmask]

@@doofusdan_yeah and the episodes didn’t even have the music videos which are the best parts of the episodes

[@helpfulplaylists3933]

​@Burtsmask Well, that's for copyright reasons.

[@chrisrockett5897]

​@@doofusdan_Did they fuck up Aeon Flux or The Maxx?

[@Digiflower5]

The Danny Phantom Boxset is horrible too. It was scratched on arrival. But this thing takes the cake.

[@doofusdan_]

Sorry to hear your set’s scratched, great show

[@Digiflower5]

@@doofusdan_ No worries, I was able to salvage it.

[@xking_dicloniusx4680]

Whoever thought of stacking discs together is straight up evil. Stacking discs makes them more susceptible to scratches. And it's sickening. One of the reasons I skipped the Batman 4 movie collection.

[@doofusdan_]

Overlapping discs is one thing but just straight up stacking them on top of each other is despicable

[@tfan2016]

The "Another 100 Episodes" SpongeBob DVD that came out two weeks ago has the exact same problem

[@dg_productions]

I bought a huge DVD set of Universal Monsters. The case is the same size as that TMNT case but some of the disks were hard to take off and some fell out of the case So I returned it and got a 6 movie collection instead

[@doofusdan_]

Need to get my hands on those films as I still haven’t seen most of them

[@jadedheartsz]

The Battlestar Galactica reboot DVD sets were apparently pretty bad about packaging as you had to be pretty forceful to remove the DVDs from the case which led to some people accidentally damaging them.

[@ManikiMPACT]

Bought this for my nephew he finished watching all the episodes they had on Netflix. When i got this i thought it be a breeze but cant even tell were your supposed to start and end this needs a re release

[@doofusdan_]

A re-release would definitely be ideal, if you need help with using the set though there is a guide available

[@ulfberht4431]

Seems like TMNT and physical media muck ups are a common thing, with all the episodes being out of order and such, it’s almost like a joke at this point.

[@doofusdan_]

It is rather frustrating given the series legacy but it is what it is I guess

[@somisimons]

They really treated one of their most iconic/memorable and loved franchises like trash, I don't know what Nickelodeon's smoking nowadays

[@KnightStudios]

I really liked this video! The vibes are unmatched and talking about TMNT made it better 😎 good job! Can’t wait to see more videos!

[@doofusdan_]

More videos are coming eventually, just gotta get through something first

[@tytheaniman497]

Wow. These people didn’t even try. I love this show more than anything and should be treated with more respect.

[@doofusdan_]

You’d think Nick would give it something a bit more worthwhile

[@dogcakewog]

I liked the dvd packaging like older futurama episodes with the cardboard sleeve and smaller thin cases for each disc inside.

[@doofusdan_]

@@dogcakewog a lot of the older Fox cartoons used to have sets like that, wish they’d bring them back

[@mattigi]

No the worst box sets are the ones where the disc's are only held in by a slit in tight cardboard.

[@doofusdan_]

It’s definitely a contender for worse packaging. It’s the main reason I’ve stayed away from the Steven Universe set and original print of the Adventure set

[@flybuttero]

While they were ez to get scratches i still prefer them over too many hard to get out stacked disc overall flipper cases or single ones will always be the best

[@SleepyLuigi]

DAN’S STASH!?

[@doofusdan_]

@@SleepyLuigi something like that

[@mostlyghostie]

I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND. My Columbo Boxset has at the very least numbered discs, but the four discs to a sleeve is still present. And Very evil !! The case feels like I might snap the disc every time I have to do the math to find the episode I want ( there isn’t any guide that tells you what episode is on what disc. by the way. ) Update as I’m writing this comment: I TOOK OUT MY BOXSET TO CHECK. It Does have a list of the episodes, but it fucking !! It does the same thing the tmnt 2012 boxset does where there’s discs on the inside that are covering the list of episodes !! So I just straight up didn’t know, I don’t rewatch season one of the show very often, and I literally opened the second dvd case for the first time to check that one too, because I don’t rewatch seasons 5-7 very often either. It’s also extremely difficult to take out the discs, which feels like. Really shitty. Cause I feel like the larger audience that might be buying this boxset nowadays are older people that liked the show when they were younger, who might not have amazing hand strength anymore. Making it so extremely difficult to take out the discs is just doing a disservice to your Main customer demographic !! And same with the tmnt boxset, their demographic is kids, and kids are just generally uncoordinated and might still be building grip strength. At least the spongebob one is well put together, but Man. I really wish more care and thought were out into these designs

[@doofusdan_]

I don’t know a whole lot about Columbo but the fact the blu-ray set crops the video to be widescreen bothers me greatly

[@mostlyghostie]

@@doofusdan_ It what.. That’s so gross honestly, why would they do that…

[@Jepze158]

@@doofusdan_ Wait really? Damn I was gonna buy that

[@manic221]

This would drive me insane. The state of physical media is very sad. Though I don maintain hope that we are currently at the lowest right now and it can only grow. I liken it to music it took a while but the music industry eventually realised that streaming does not generate enough profit and so they eventually turned to special editions and collectors stuff in the case of music that was the surprise revival of Vinyl. I expect the same thing will happen with television and movies and we will start seeing more steal books and other special editions for collectors. We have to hit the slump first tho. On the plus side Paramount while releasing these disastrous things for Nick they are also one of the only streaming services that release its original series on 4k Blu Ray consistently.

[@doofusdan_]

I do think younger people will come around to collecting movies and shows like music leading to higher quality releases.

[@moviesbye9294]

3:58 They literally are numbered right there!

[@doofusdan_]

Those numbers are from the original release, so super shredder had a disc one and two but they are not disc one and two of this set

[@DigitalLeonardo]

Omg they didn’t give the discs new art!? Not even throw on some number stickers… this is my favorite TMNT series so it might still be worth it to pick it up and just make my own disc art and print it out.

[@haileyvelker8976]

I love watching people be passionate about a craft I've never even considered.

[@doofusdan_]

That’s one of the best aspects of the internet

[@bluze]

More rants about turtles pls

[@doofusdan_]

I’d be interested in doing more rants and stuff about turtles

[@fictionalmediabully9830]

This is funny out of context. XD

[@pedzad9528]

Weird how they don't put effort into THEIR ninja turtles. Like, these ARE Nick turtles

[@doofusdan_]

You’d think, you’d think

[@SortaNonymous]

As someone who's owned that SpongeBob set for years now and not even used it as much as I'd like to because of how much I hate the case design, hearing it compared positively to this set in the beginning just filled me with a massive sense of impending dread. EDIT: And now I'm seeing the actual case design. Where's my barf bag?

[@doofusdan_]

The later release for the first 100 is definitely a downgrade from its original release, but it looks like a godsend compared to the tmnt set

[@Cartoonish]

I agree with everything you said, it really sucks But.... However, it is mainly intended to be on the shelf , after all you don't really watch the episodes on the disc but on the computer

[@christianthrasher8677]

Honestly I never knew that this set was released until Bruno and Mia from mmprtoys found it on their vlog channel

[@justinlugo8006]

They easily could’ve had their glossary say “disc 2: enter shredder” and then list the eps

[@FerinaAryele]

You could always number the discs with a Sharpie, not ideal but at least they would be numbered. Of course that only fixes one of the many problems with the set lol

[@doofusdan_]

At least it’d be a step in the right direction

[@HornZ.]

Agreed, the disc layout really isnt great and the out of order episodes sound like a huge pain. I'm glad to have the show atleast, but its poorly set up, especially compared to the SpongeBob ones, or even the Rick and Morty S1-6 box set for example. Great video

[@doofusdan_]

Thanks! It is nice to just have the show on hand but it would be a lot better if it had the layout of the other shows you mentioned

[@joshmullen136]

This video has the same energy of a one off James Rolfe video from the late 2000s recorded in the Scott's Stash style. I like it!

[@doofusdan_]

It wasn’t intentional, but I can totally see it.

[@tristanraine]

YOU KNOW WHAT'S BULLSHIT?! DVD BOXSETS.

[@ferbusgddc]

The Twilight Zone boxset has a similar issue with how covered everything is, but at least it has dvds labeled and a list 😅😅😅

[@doofusdan_]

You’d think bare minimum aspects like that would be universal for box sets

[@ferbusgddc]

@@doofusdan_ you’d really think so…

[@LEGO_NASCAR]

I personally prefer this way of arranging the disks. With my spongebob and jimmy neutron collections, the discs are ALWAYS falling out. Yes, the discs are a bit harder to access here, but at least they wont fall out. But yeah, the fact that the discs aren't conveniently labeled is lame.

[@doofusdan_]

Honestly you aren’t wrong, these discs aren’t falling out anytime soon

[@Kittenmax15]

I have this box set because I didn’t want to pay for paramount + to watch the series and I can say it was a ABSOLUTE PAIN to figure out as a first time watcher. I think I even accidentally skipped a disc the first time I watched and got supper confused.

[@doofusdan_]

I ended up double checking guides just to make sure I didn’t skip a disc

[@StarkMaximum]

I'm surprised you didn't call out that the SpongeBob discs are colorful and each associated with a character, making them easy to tell apart at a glance and making them all look varied, while TMNT all has blank, boring silver text on silver background, making it not just hard to figure out which disc is which, but also making it very hard to read and just all blend together into one visual mess.

[@doofusdan_]

All the discs being gray is rather lame for sure

[@SketchCartoonGuy]

A very informative video! I guess you get what you pay for in this case, a cheap set made carelessly. It's maddening that they didn't do the most basic thing and list the DISC TITLES on the sleeve instead of just disc numbers. They didn't need to touch the discs at all to do that much but they didn't even do that. The disc holders are absolutely intolerable, the Lionsgate complete TMNT 1987 set has the same issue and I literally only bought it so I could get a free copy of the digital version on Vudu. It's beyond a shame that 2012 and Rise didn't get Bluray releases, Rise didn't even get more than a few single DVDs... I collected each volume of the original singles (as I did with every TMNT animated series) so there's no reason for me to grab this even though it would take up a lot less shelf space. I did buy it digital to have an HD copy and for the convenience but I waited for a killer sale when it was 25 dollars. TMNT fans always seem to get the shaft when it comes to DVD releases and we don't even get a sniff of Blu-ray besides the movies.

[@doofusdan_]

It really is baffling how a series as long running and as popular as TMNT has very little in terms of high quality home media. Not saying 87 is high art but I feel at this point it deserves a crisp blu-ray release.

[@SketchCartoonGuy]

@@doofusdan_ I completely agree. Unfortunately it’s not well preserved and my old VHS tapes look better than any of the DVDs. I don’t know if a proper remaster is possible but I would love to see one happen.

[@glassowlie]

I have 2 South Park DVD boxsets, and oh my lord, the case is god awful! Each side isn't labelled, and the disc holders easily fall off. The way the discs are layered can cause scratches and more. I wish I got the Blu-ray, but HMV only had them on DVD...

[@doofusdan_]

Definitely conniving me to pick up the blu-ray sets

[@BigSteve1997]

I had to look-up a watch order guide then label the discs with numbers myself

[@doofusdan_]

More than you should have to do after buying a dvd set

[@Technotron-ec6ty]

My version of the complete TMNT 2012 dvd set didn't have the Return to NYC disc and instead gave me another copy of Super Shredder disc 1. I've been trying to find other ways of watch those episodes on Return to nyc, but I've come empty handed. Paramount plus and Netflix only had seasons 1 and 2 avaliable, meaning that Return to nyc is part of season 3, and I don't have the money to buy them digitally. But I want to buy them digitally, because like you said, I like having a physical copy of that movie or show on my shelf that I can just put on whenever I feel like it.

[@doofusdan_]

For what it’s worth, since all of the discs are just earlier individual releases, you could probably find the OG release of Return to NYC to finish the set

[@Reddison]

Find the episodes online, get an ISO program + disk drive, and burn the episodes onto the disc. You technically paid for them already.

[@asakukarma]

I really like the box sets with a cardboard sleeve and a bunch of really thin cases for each DVD. I have the Samurai Champloo complete series boxset and I love it. Every disc is in it's own thin case with unique art for each, and it tells you which episodes are on which disc. sadly you don't see box sets using that format much anymore

[@doofusdan_]

I believe that’s what the original SpongeBob first 100 episodes and it’s the version I want. The only set like that I own personally is my old Madagascar set

[@thetoythief8940]

2003 also has a bad box set but 2012 for a cgi show has compression issues framerate issues and shadowing like how paramount don't care about the turtle

[@doofusdan_]

Given the current state of Nickelodeon I just don’t they care in general

[@thetoythief8940]

​@doofusdan_ 2003 is definitely the one that annoyed me I have the original run of dvds including the uncommon season 7 but I was hoping to retire that set and get the new one but nope I returned it and got my money back

[@doofusdan_]

@@thetoythief8940 dang if the new set is that bad that’s a huge bummer

[@thetoythief8940]

@@doofusdan_ look up at video it should be should you buy the tmnt 2003 ultimate dvd it's from a year ago and is 10:30 i believe

[@LeopoldLitchenstein]

At least for the 2003 one, they put what episodes are on each disc on said disc, but I get what you mean

[@z.l6708]

Close enough, welcome back Scott's Stash.

[@doofusdan_]

@@z.l6708 bro I don’t think he’s gone anywhere

[@philipnapier3382]

I bought this set for my son and I have the same issues with it . Honestly I never noticed the episode list on the inside of the artwork . lol I’m glad u showed that because up until til now I’ve been playing the guessing game on which disc he needs to watch next . This has to be the worst designed set . Great show though

[@doofusdan_]

The show is pretty solid which is why it’s such a shame the set turned out the way it did

[@KyloDino]

This is the first video I've seen on your channel and I also watched your adult swim video, I really like your content 😎

[@doofusdan_]

Thanks! As far as first videos go I’m still pretty proud of the Adult Swim video.

[@KyloDino]

@@doofusdan_ You should be it was great!

[@killerquinn64]

this is still better than the Chowder blu-ray set (see see the joke there is that doesn't exist) also in terms of stuff being out of order, you know what really grinds my gears? the damn SpongeBob Season 6 set. (not Seasons 4 and 5 though since I don't have them and the First 100 Episodes set exists) like the whole season is in order of the single-disc DVDs so it's just totally out of order and it's an annoying way to watch one of the most underratedly hilarious seasons of the show dammit now I wanna watch some SpongeBob Season 6 why did I do this to myself anyway good video, this was made for me, someone who has way too many cartoon DVDs that she doesn't use as much as she should

[@killerquinn64]

I'm actually being reminded of how shitty the SpongeBob Season 13 and 14 + Kamp Koral & Patrick Star Show Volume 2 sets are (I don't have them but I do wanna get that Patrick set at least) maybe you could cover those

[@doofusdan_]

I definitely want to cover the recent SpongeBob media releases and how they could be a lot better. . . Honestly with how much I love the series I might just end up doing a full deep dive into the series home media releases

[@killerquinn64]

@@doofusdan_ oh hell yeah

[@bellscoutV3]

If he has issues with 4 disks to a page, no one show him Breaking Bad's disc set

[@doofusdan_]

At least it’s blu-ray, meaning it won’t get too scratched

[@Stormerbuzz]

You know what an easier solution is? List the discs by name instead of number. It's that simple.

[@doofusdan_]

You’d think it’d be that simple but idk if they’d have the room to print the full disc titles

[@Stormerbuzz]

@doofusdan_ There's always enough space if you fiddle with the font size and spacing

[@SarahTheScottishBunny]

It's the same with the better call Saul complete series only the disc's are stack like towers. It baffles me when companies do this.

[@doofusdan_]

The disc towers are something only weird people who throw away cases should do, not film/movie companies

[@TurtleCraftZ1]

I mean I do think it's silly that the discs aren't numbered, but the set does give you a guide of the discs with the episodes on them. It's the reverse side of the artwork, it's clearly visible on the inside of the case. You have to pop a few discs out to properly read it, which is inconvenient, but it's there- you can even see it in the video

[@doofusdan_]

@@TurtleCraftZ1 this is true, but as I point out in the video the discs don’t match said guide. Makes the guide useless in a sense

[@marioyungblood]

Bro I thought you were "Scott The Woz" my bad. That's a Bummer on this DvD Set. Thanks for the heads up👍

[@doofusdan_]

Sorry I’m not Scott but glad I could you worn you about the set

[@KeiNova]

Yeah, I thought I had some bad ones, but this setup is horrifying.

[@doofusdan_]

Truly horrifying

[@thetechconspiracy2]

I feel like the design of the Avatar/Legend of Korra Blu-Rays is worse, if only because it not only risks destroying your discs, but can cause actual physical harm to unsuspecting viewers. They don't even include an episode list (which would be pretty handy for an episodic show), and the case has the opposite problem, where the discs essentially sit on short pegs, meaning that if you don't put the set on a table like a book, you have a very high chance of dropping *multiple* discs on their edge, where they will end up rolling to who-knows-where, or potentially crack on impact, ruining the set before you even have a chance to watch the first disc. The discs will also just rattle around in the case, which while not terrible because they are scratch resistant, still isn't ideal. They also haven't edited episodes in any way from what I can tell. Unrelated episodes that aired together (The Serpents Pass and The Drill, for instance) on TV are still listed as the same episode on the box set, just stitched together into a 44 minute blob with a title card in between. Not to mention the intense flashing that really strains your eyes during lightning bending, especially in LoK Book 1, I have to wonder how they got past legal without an epilepsy warning at the start.

[@doofusdan_]

I have a few sets where the discs fall of the spindles, it’s rather annoying

[@christophermcbride2522]

This set was the first time I experienced shows in one giant case. It made me find the original DVD releases on Ebay. Im still trying to sell this set. I also had "Breaking Bad" in this kind of set. I sold it and bought the individual seasons on bluray.

[@doofusdan_]

Honestly don’t blame you for going for the individual releases