Why to Tune your DSG Transmission | B8.5 Audi S4

[@Bawla187]

Paul knows his ish, man. Can hear him talk about cars all day. Not many mechanic channels on KZbin have this knowledge base. Been watching this channel a long time. 💯👍🏿

[@JohnMaffa]

Next to tuning your engine, tuning the DSG is a great improvement. In smaller engine cars (2.0 Turbo's), it really allows the car is shift properly (and stops the care from downshifting and spinning the tires). It also makes sports mode something different than higher revving. LOTS of subtle changes, all match up perfectly with the tune.

[@jacobhauenstein]

Just wanted to post my experience to help others. I have a car running on Unitronic Stage 3 Dual pulley with a smaller top pulley, putting the car at a little above the boost/power ratio of Uni's stage 3 kit. I have never experienced any slip or hesitation with the DSG, but having driven Uni and APR cars, the way the trans behaves is very differently. At full throttle, the APR TCU will leave the clutches engages making an awful slipping slushy sound. This is actually better for your quarter mile but results in a pretty unsettling feeling shift as the clutch slips from gear to gear. The unitronic STage 2 will make the shifts much quicker and tighter, but at full throttle my car almost slams them, as if it is trying to shift too quickly. For my taste, I love it, the car throws you back and you feel the engagement of each gear, and your ears are met with a pop/clap instead of a "DSG FART". For the track, I would rec the Uni tune, as the downshifts and upshifts are much quicker, but if you are trying to build a quarter mile car, you might want APR even though it doesn't sound good.

[@Jmschnider]

Any excperience with the EPL dsg tune?

[@xiaoliuwu8539]

I recently had Unitronic stage 1 tcu + ecu tune on my 2010 cc. The tcu tune reallly transformed the transmission and how the car feels. Now the D mode is much smoother and and not going to race to the 6th gear. As soon as I put foot down, the transmission knows to downshift even in the D mode. The ecu tune does give the car a little kick. Anyone want to have the ecu flash on their cc should not expect the tune will transform the car into a gti.

[@JDFelda]

Totally unrelated, but I love those striped interior trim inlays.

[@tcolondovich2996]

LOL I can't believe ECS tuning has a tool called OBDeleven. Nice video.

[@depaolibio]

Any update on durability of parts after 2 yeas?! How many miles and putative issues/replacement of parts?! Thanks!

[@thomasr7429]

Hello ! Do you have a change in behavior with the ACC cruise control and front assist ?

[@denniswallace9087]

Couple of Questions. Do you feel that the DSG tune is needed at the same time you do the Stage 1+ tune? Or can it wait down the road? Is there a way with the OBDeleven that you can see the number of times your ECU and TCU have been flashed?

[@frumpd63]

Forget warranty problems, these insane tunes are turning the secondhand market into a minefield.

[@p0werl0ve]

3.5 sec to 100 kmph is super car performance, so if you are seeking the cheapest driving experience, it's not for you

[@TheCarCrazyGuy]

Does the Golf R have a numerical limit for launches?

[@scottforrest2097]

Great job, I’m glad you like it.

[@robertogarcia9413]

Hello Paul... Can you make a video on how to bleed the coolant im the s4 b8.5? Im planning on upgrading the heat exchanger in my car. Thank you very much...

[@macrolosses]

I dont like gear 2 and 5 with TCU upgrade. It drives too rough. I do like the gear display. But if i wanted sportier driving i will drive in sport mode, while in D i want comfort. However i dont track my car, just cruise and the occasional 0-60 from red lights.

[@KujGaming]

I think i met the torque limit with my Eurodyne stage 1.5 tune sadly... its a 2010 S5 cabrio so off the bat i'm 500lbs heavier than the S4, im assuming this extra weight loads up the engine more and causes the power cut while shifting sadly. So i've just been running the Stage 1 for the past year, i feel like its time to flash the trans and see if my car can even handle a pulley.

[@mjsauto6432]

what do u think bout the dsg 7 speed reliability? worth buying ?

[@thomasr7429]

Unitronic tune works with a Ross Tech VCDS cable?

[@christianthompson3876]

What’s the difference between a stage 1, 2, 3, and 4? Looking at it for my 07 GLI

[@omarcheevers]

can you restore to factory tune?

[@peterstegemann4782]

is you interior trim an option? or is it from a different car?

[@PressurenFlames]

What is the actual torque limit for a stock 0B5 transmission?

[@josephcammack]

I just bought a 2015 SQ5 a few weeks ago. 42,000 miles. (No Mods yet) I have noticed some "Sloppy" trans behavior. Its not all the time, normal day to day driving in "comfort" mode is fine mostly. In Dynamic it shifts harder and seems to jerk around - up and down in gear. I understand this might be the trans way of becoming more eager and aggressive. However, here is where it gets strange,...When in "comfort" and I decide to be aggressive with the gas peddle (like chasing down our mail man on the highway) it shifts hard, and after the big chase it's like the transmission stays pissed off - Shifting a little hard and up and down in gear. It's not until I stop the car and it sits a bit will it stop the erratic behavior. SO with this said, do you have any kind of explanation? Also do you think there is a good TCU tune that would help some of this erratic behavior when in Comfort mode? Do you think a simple re-map of the trans at the dealership will fix this? ANY INFO HELPS!!!!!! Love your Vids by the way!

[@Zx10r_jimmy]

Anyway to tell if my car has a tcu tune already ? Bought it used

[@timothybracken1728]

love this channel, keep it up!

[@architecturehappy]

Could you have an AWE touring exhaust with stage 2 tune and stage 2 dsg without damaging the exhaust system? I want this power but don’t want to melt the catalytics.

[@jasongtivr6]

Transmission gets confused at particular rpms. Other than that I do like the changes. 2017 a3 stage 2 unitronic trans and engine.

[@TheComputerwizzz]

Why didn’t you get the IE Dual Pulley upgrade with DGI transmission & ECU tune? Better value (higher Power output) for price compared than Unitronic.

[@curlyhairedcarguy9299]

Is the s4 project dead?

[@hllboi817]

I read up somewhere that u need a boot pin flash at a unitronic dealer to get the unitronic cable to work on a mk7, is that true?

[@tommygunnz130]

Would my stock S4 be good to do the Stage 1 ECU and Stage 1 TCU tunes?

[@541_CoyotePower]

Any tunes for the 2010 A4 B8?

[@swe3n525]

What wheel setup is this car running?

[@FANTOllVll]

So if i get the stage 1+ ecu tune for unitronic, do i need to get the stage 1 tcu tune?

[@SynysterJesus]

Why does it have a 200 limit for launches? Is it due to the clutch packs wearing out? And is that a thing to look out for when buying a used b8.5 s4?

[@4rings6]

@Auckland357 You can view launches with vagcom or one of the obd2 modules, I checked used s4s when shopping for mine. The one I eneded up getting had 0.

[@4rings6]

Nope @121bham

[@Flaksting]

But 200 seems insanely low. When the car is new you could go through them in a few months and then what? No more launches for the next 5-8 years? Why even include it, if it’s so vulnerable that it has a low limit.

[@juansantiago4657]

Hello there. is the transmission vibration between 1k & 2k rpm a normal thing on the B8 S4?... your videos are so easy to understand which is why i am asking you Sir. thank you

[@architecturehappy]

Can you help us all out and list exactly what modifications existed on the car when you shot this video? Thank you!

[@akmaltitan8497]

only 200 limit for launch control? and after that cannot use it anymore?? why car manufacturer do that? for engine safety? can someone explain to me

[@zaxophne]

What paddles are on that car?

[@pk3040-d7k]

Good vid. Where did you get your paddle shift extensions from?

[@Treizez34]

Do this with an A3. Would love to hear your impressions on the 2.0t Quattro setup on the MQB platform

[@tcolondovich2996]

Yeah, get a car that's 1/2 the price used, and put lots of money into it? Makes no sense. You're starting with something slower than my C-max Energi in the 1/4 mile, the A3, versus something that compares with a Corvette in the 1/4 mile, stock. (My S4.)

[@Treizez34]

T Colondovich TROLOLOLOLOLOLOL

[@AllenYoho]

great video paul, need to pull the trigger and get the dsg tune for my stage 2 MK7

[@yoadriaaannn]

If you use Cobb accesport, check 5150 Racing for their tune and tcu. It's waaaay better than Uni's.

[@Jlit3]

So if I use Uni stage 1+ I need the stage 2 tcu?

[@thomasr7429]

Hello! Unitronic or IE DSG tune for dq381 on mk7.5 GTI stock ? Daily driver 😉 Thanks

[@changrex1313]

@Deutsche Auto Parts I have a 2018 GTI sport in California. I see people doing secondary cat delete. My question is, will removing secondary cat on mk7 gti harm the engine in anyway? (Without tune) I know secondary cat is after the O2 sensor so no CEL will show. Thank you!

[@foureyes5498]

Chang Rex no it won’t

[@TheKingOfLions]

Just skipped over the DSG tune, and instead purchased IE Stage 1 and ECS rear diffuser,front lip and front diffuser. Was going to get the DSG instead of the carbon fibre pieces but decided i would wait and get it as a combo kit for stage 2 when that comes about. Love the videos! Please keep posting and check out my vids, dropping weekly! Thanks.

[@bieight8]

A5 2.0t also can?

[@miket.8528]

Is there a transmission tune for the ZF8 in the A6/A7 with 3.0T?

[@olddirtyburt7522]

Yeah, show some love for the 3.0 liters. ( shhhhh. Tdi )

[@FreddieBexperience]

Mmmm dsg tune!

[@rokimarinaj9442]

hello everyone i need your guys help please i have a 2010 audi s4 and im having gearbox malfunction do you guys know anything about it what can it be so let me explain a bit im driving with pedal shifters and hight rpm and i want to change gear the car die for a second and after it takes the speed back or like i said im hight rpm and i change gear the car jumps also sometimes if anyone knows anything pleas let me know thank u??

[@adensterchi977]

Is there a launch control limit on something like the alltrack? If it’s 200 I should have hit it by now 😂

[@dorkultra]

this voids the DSG warranty even if you revert, right?

[@ChrisR14]

Absolutely

[@lornesbored]

IF it is detected. Some people have had their warranties voided, but not all (me)

[@volanta0112]

Hi ..I have a 2015 VW PASSAT TDI SEL PREMIUM.. what do you recommend me for my car (what is the best option unitronic have for that kind a vehicle)

[@foureyes5498]

MARTINEZ POLANCO start with a stage 1 tune if you’re on a budget

[@volanta0112]

@@foureyes5498 I'm thinking on KERMA TDI TUNE and DSG TDI FLASH TUNE ...what do you think?

[@foureyes5498]

MARTINEZ POLANCO never heard of them but I’m sure it’ll do. I’d say go with whatever is closer to you or some tune companies, such as unitronic in the video, have flash cables that allow you to tune your car from home

[@volanta0112]

@@foureyes5498 www.kermatdi.com/cart.html

[@rotebaron26]

Nice!! I really wanted you had an a4 2.0t it would be great 👍

[@tcolondovich2996]

Why did you buy an A-series Audi if you were trying to go fast? Aren't those above 7 seconds 0-60 and above 14 seconds in the quarter mile? Look at zeroto60times.com if you want to see why I wouldn't start with something slower than my C-max Energi plugin hybrid in the quarter mile. Imagine how much it takes to get it in the same range as my S4! It would cost you as much as I would spend to get my S4 to do 1/4 miles in the 11-12 second range, just to run as fast as my car does stock, around 13.0 seconds. Thousands of $.

[@rotebaron26]

T Colondovich S4 is compressor... A4 4 cilinders is turbo ... now we are about 750hp with good preparation, 450hp with moderate preparation 300hp with stage 2 preparation ... So it is just different... Turbo and compressor. Also ... it is about quantity, the most of car in the world now are turbo downsizing.

[@architecturehappy]

@deutsche auto if you stopped at stage 2, would there be any reliability issues? Seems like a 3.5 0-60 might be too much stress reducing reliable daily mileage? Would appreciate a response, goes a long way on credibility when you can take a second to reply to the community. Great videos !

[@jasongroves1111]

How much us a DSG tune?

[@sebastiangonzram8615]

600-700

[@Jpmam832]

How much $$$ is it?

[@JusttRelaxx]

It would be much better if you had chosen REVO for this project. They have a pulley+belt kit, also a great software for 3.0TFSI. They also have the S-Tronic software. And all of this works great. Am I the only one who hates the wheels on this car?

[@Beacon57]

Lots of tuners have pulley+belt kits. Its really down to personal preference.

[@JusttRelaxx]

@@Beacon57 It's true. But REVO's 3.0TFSI software development took more than two years and it's tested on multiple test vehicles all around the world in different weather conditions. It's just very well made.

[@mitchellblu3]

@@JusttRelaxx He's a Unitronics dealer so he's obviously not going to use REVO lol. Promotion will help push more sales and be more useful to him.

[@JusttRelaxx]

@@mitchellblu3 I didn't know that. Ok, now it makes sense. :)

[@stephenEs3532]

why is the V6T still on the car....

[@p0werl0ve]

this is great! 0-100 in 3.5 sec WTF

[@nurbsenvi]

So just software eh? Wow

[@a.alamria5702]

Can you write your email for contact if that’s possible?

[@lornesbored]

those wheels are SO fucking heavy

[@4TKRACE]

Unitronic supa expensive and stupid ( separation between st1 and st2 DSG is fucking silly)

[@lenwoodcruze3594]

This is fella appears to be the stereotypical geek.... he's working with a awesome company, working on awesome projects, doing awesome things with awesome cars....I would like to be him other than taking his lunch money.

[@Deutscheautoparts]

Even worse.... He owns the company. Sincerely Stereotypical Geek ; )

[@DIYIMPULSE]

He always looks so sad

[@kevinpham8578]

:(

[@TriptoCo]

Trying to figure out why your using Unitronic software? They are known to be the worst of the worst for VAG vehicles for over 15 years. It really is garbage programming. MTM, APR, ASP, GIAC and IES are light years better and provide way more power at every stage. Is it just due to the fact that they possibly sponsor your shop? If so, reach out to all the other companies that are so much better. I am sure they'll sponsor your shop and provide the same needs etc.....

[@willypupo89]

What are you talking about? That is nonsense. Unitronic is one of the best. I have 0 complaints about my mk7 GTI and its Unitronic Stage 2 tune. Over a year with the tune, and I have had no issues, and the power is more than adequate.

[@proseidon411]

They are not sponsored by Unitronic. Also, power ≠ better, depending on the owner/application. "The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long"

[@vroomgc]

I agree with William Pupo. I have a Stage 1+ on my Golf R and works great and felt a nice improvement over my JB1 that I used to have. Obviously this guy is just a hater of Unitronic for his own reasons and no factual evidence.

[@TriptoCo]

@@vroomgc Check any comparative dyno graphs. Unitronic is the lowest on TQ and HP by far. I tried their garbage in my B5 S4 back in 2002. Then went to GIAC and it was insane on the difference via dyno pulls. Read any Audi forum about what software is good or bad. Unitronic is at the bottom at all times. As for longevity.... I have had either APR, ASP or GIAC in my 3 previous (and current B8.5 S5) up to the Ultracharger and beat the living shit out of them all. Daily. Never had a single issue with anything. Unitronic is not worth crap. Just fucking Google software for any VAG car and you'll see that Unitronic is considered the worst on results.....

[@radoadamov9201]

It's 2019 now, companies make progress on their products.