Why Togepi Is EGGstraordinary 🥚

[@AdeptCharon]

If the beasts were resurrected from eeveelutions, that would make the part of the story where Ho-oh imbues them with the three elements, kind of irrelevant... But if you just say it was unevolved Eevees, then the story actually makes some sense, because an unevolved Eevee is literally all about being susceptible to elemental influence, so it would not be surprising if getting a crazy level of elemental energy would transform them to the legendary beasts INSTEAD of just eeveelutions.

[@jark06]

Unown definitely seem like they’re the key to creation in the Pokemon world. It’s fun to imagine them as the code of the games.

[@MrGamerofmusic]

The Pokémon multiverse was a simulation the whole time XD

[@nochancewithoutpasta7637]

Reading lines of Unown is just basically reading. Cause they're letters. The real question is the same one GF have asked us since the 90s. Red version or Blue version?

[@jabrown]

@@nochancewithoutpasta7637 In this light, it's interesting that there are no Unown forms that look like numbers.

[@lightdanger]

I believe that Volo has a togepi because deep within his heart, he is trying to do the right thing, he is trying to create a better world. Togepis can be found in Hissui in the wild, as well as Togetics and Togekisses. It would not be impossible to believe that in a better, more peaceful time Volo would have been more like Cynthia, a simple lore keeper who loves Pokemon and People. Remember that in Pokemon Masters she has Giratina, and in the latest event her Giratina seems to be acting off for some unknown reason while the top of a Togepi's head is seen running off somewhere in the very last scene. Yes Volo is a monster from our perspective, but he also helps the trainer, he helps with the lake trio quest, dealing with the red sky, and finding the missing Arceus plates. All he wants is a better world, and perhaps that is what his togepi sees in him, a person wanting a better world.

[@Aberforge]

That wild Stantler is so chill!

[@wheatunrye]

I like this idea. Headcanon accepted! The Togepi line is my absolute favorite. Two things to add to your theory. The ONLY place where Togepi can be caught in the wild is in Hisui. So they did exist in the past, not the future. However, they've now gone extinct. And they exist in the peaceful future, ONLY because of the paradox that Celebi keeps bringing them back from the future for good trainers to raise. Celebi is saving the species! Side note, Togepi can be found in the wild with things like PokeRadar, and is found outside of the daycare in the Wild Area of Sword and Shield (which is funny). But that means they are incredibly rare, or just being bred, so my statement is still valid.

[@TheSpektrum1989]

given it was also featured in the anime as Misty's pride and joy but also as kinda THE Gen 2/Johto mascot, Togepi has definitely always been special.

[@grantdaily9662]

I personally see Volo with Togepi as a nod to him once being a good person. In Legends (and places like Galar Alola and ORAS Hoenn) we see that that constantly dealing with otherworldly powers or huge quantities of Infinity Energy can corrupt people. Like Rose with Eternataus, Lily's mom with the Ultra Beasts (in her case turning an already bad person worse) both Archie and Maxie going slightly insane after obtaining the orbs filled with the Primordial energy. But with those theyre treated as a "probably" but in Legends we out righg see what huge quantities of Infinity emergy can do to pokemon (specifically the Guardian mons) if they get boosted by that energy. Even going back to Alola we get horrifying Dex entries for the Megas on how they go mad and are either devolving into their basic insticts, literally dying out right or both in some cases. So Volo is just the newest case of a Good person that cant handle the exesive Infinity energy theyve come into contact with

[@johnherb4243]

That's an interesting point.

[@grantdaily9662]

@@johnherb4243 thank you, it's something I've noticed since ORAS as they've brought more attention to Infinity. It started with XY and how AZ went from a kind caring man to a near 180 from his Grief as he finished the Doomsday Weapon powered by either the Embodiment of Life or Death and how much energy they get talked about when they either emerge from or enter their cocoon state. It's in ORAS that I noticed the heavy play into the Infinity energy corruptions

[@nochancewithoutpasta7637]

The alolan dex entries are sus, because they're Rotomdex's POV. We have no idea how it's viewing Megas, and what it's seeing that we aren't. Or what it's hearing. Despite that, numerous times, we've seen Megas used properly, when crystallized human energy used by a human and Infinity Energy used by a Pokemon react to cause mega evolution, without pain. I think the key here is the bond between them. Any mon that isn't fully trained is going to go berserk with power if you shove literally infinite energy into it. I think this is what Rotomdex was referring to. Natural instances of Mega Evolutions, or poorly trained megas, going on rampages or being used to battle so often they melt.

[@grantdaily9662]

@@nochancewithoutpasta7637 See I did take that into consideration, but the problem is that we never see it in the Game Canon only the Anime Canon. So it's a potential "What if" scenario, but the problem is that the Game and Anime canons don't match up well with how they add things or retcon things or add stuff from the movie canon, so it just ends up being a goopy mess of potential. As for the Rotomdex part, it could be Rotom making things more horrific than needed. But the problem being that Sycamore's assistants are in Alola and ages up, meaning that Sycamore has done far more research into Megas and how they function with the selected Pokemon

[@nochancewithoutpasta7637]

@@grantdaily9662 I doubt Rotomdex was drawing from Sycamore's assistants in US/UM. Maybe when we inevitably get a kalos or alola remake they'll mention this again.

[@Oceane1803]

If Erika truly is the daughter of Sylph Co's director, then I have a headcanon. Unlike Steven who participates in his father's horrible experments with Pokémon Life Force, Erika rebelled against her father's own horrible experiments with Pokémon Life Force and opened the Grass Type Gym as a way to kinda oppose her father (Grass being nature and what Silph Co. does being unethical and unnatural). And maybe her Gym only has girls because her father is so horrible that she doesn't trust men anymore.

[@vinicius5793]

Ruin Maniac, if you are reading this I really hope you come back with your theories some day. With just the Infinite Energy files you became my favorite poketuber. To be honest, your theory became my headcanon and now I enjoy the games in a whole new level (way better than the original lore that never gets explained). Anyway, your videos are amazing, hope you come back someday, even with more of this colabs with Toby.

[@theruinmaniacfiles1418]

Hey man, thanks for those kind words. Can't promise anything soon, but I have a couple ideas for the future :D

[@DekuOfPower]

I find it most liekly that Volo got his Togepi from Cogita, another tie to the Celestic people. He did not have a peaceful heart, but he did well at hiding it from the player for most of the game; its likely he fooled her as well.

[@nickwhyman4815]

Yesss! I love to see more of the Ruin Maniac. He does such good work.

[@kirin1195]

I have always said that the unknown are Arceus's thousand arms spoken about in Dex entries that he used to shape the universe. Obviously they aren't literally arms and their is alot more than a thousand but it's mythology. The idea that they are the part of arceus that is used to form the material world makes sense. Unknown are essentially sentient atoms.

[@gaaraofthedesert801]

It's not even just that Volo has a Togekiss, it's that it's his ACE POKEMON, whereas Garchomp is Cynthia's. Such a weird flip-flop.

[@nochancewithoutpasta7637]

pretty sure his real ace is giratina...

[@gaaraofthedesert801]

@nochancewithoutpasta7637 its not part of his actual team that is in a pokeball.

[@nochancewithoutpasta7637]

@@gaaraofthedesert801And yet it obeys his commands and shows up when he needs it. Legends, as a rule, barely worry about Pokeballs anyway. If they don't want to be caught, they won't, and they can and have very easily stopped even Master Balls.

[@bl00dblight]

A lovely video! Togepi is one of my favorite Pokemon and has been ever since I began playing Platinum as a kid, and now, after Legends Arceus' release, I can proudly say that Volo is my favorite Pokémon character. :) I could go into a whole multi-paragraph explanation on why I personally believe Volo's Togepi sticks by his side, even until the very end, but I don’t wish to bore, haha!

[@ladystormdance3051]

Yoooo. I'd read it. 👌👌

[@Official_NGMRX]

I feel the reason Volo has a Togepi is purely because he is the ancestor to Cynthia who she herself has one

[@livinglightning6336]

Pretty confident that Volo is actually Cynthia from another Platinum “Version” so assumedly he does everything Cynthia does up until the reveal of Giratina. Where he gets sent back to Hisui after catching that worlds Giratina now displaced then obsesses instead over Arceus.

[@timwoods2852]

I never noticed before, but Celebi and Togatic look very similar. Could it be that the two were/are related. Mayhaps Celebi is protecting its own kind.

[@BirdKeeperToby]

I do wonder if it’s the case yknwo

[@squallthegriever]

Togepi was a huge fave of mine since gen 1 and 2. Still use Togekiss on my main teams to this day. To this day

[@syaefullrizcky]

I thought you gonna mention that in ORAS we got Wynaut and Togepi egg from the same person..

[@maero1557]

At 10:34 I can't help but think about Danny DeVito saying "Can I offer you a nice egg in this trying time?"

[@_Banjo_]

wynaut and mirage island...mirages could link to unown's illusions

[@Moon-Vixen]

I think Volo has one because at heart he's a good person. we regularly see villains having pokemon that love them. like Lysandre being able to mega evolve, several evil team leaders having crobats, as well as Silver. good people can be corrupted and do bad things. I think togepi was one of his first pokemon, given to him as a child or teenager, back when times were good for the Celestica people, and through hardship and abuse his heart hardened and he became obsessed. but in the end, he's still just an abused child lashing out at a world that hurt him. I also think his togepi is a sign that he can be redeemed, if given the chance. I also still think Cynthia is his reincarnation, and her togepi is a part of that. her whole team is due to his own, his love for his pokemon transcending even death.

[@BirdKeeperToby]

Interesting idea

[@Moon-Vixen]

@@BirdKeeperToby ah! if you're interested (in my theory that Cynthia IS Volo reborn), I can explain it in more detail! so, PLA takes place in the 1860s and is only 5-7 generations between then and now. we can see familial lines, the traits and habits they passed on that are still easily recognizable, be they genetic hair colors and styles, personality quirks and mannerisms, or interests like in specific jobs or pokemon types. we see Gardenia's hair and grass preference coming from being a descendant of a farmer, we see Charm having both Birtha and Agatha's aces, confirming the theory that they're related, as well as making a new connection potentially with Melli being related to both Lucian (hair) and Avery (personality), both are psychic type specialists) and I'm willing to bet the Lucario man didn't just pass his hair down to his descendants, but likely passed eggs of his Lukario down the family line too. but what I note most here, is for most of these people, it's only one or two things. while there's multiple different ways for us to see the signs of their family line, they don't feel the need to beat us over the head with proof. just an outfit piece, or a hair style/color, or both a hair style and matching ace is enough to get the point across. and Cogita is no different. her outfit and hair (though that is likely purely a genetic trait specific to all of the Celestica people rather than a direct lineage sign, so Cynthia would have that regardless of what specific Celestica ancestor she had) as well as the location of her home make her the obvious genetic ancestor to Cynthia. but yet Volo is different. he has nearly everything about Cyntha. her battle theme, her entire team (even always starting with spiritumb) minus only the inaccessible milotic to be replaced with a likewise inaccessible hisuian arcanine, her title as a historical researcher, obsession with the ancient lore and stories and her connection and love for the Celestica people, a drive to meet arceus, as well as the physical genetic traits passed down by the Celestica people, as well as the habit of sneaking up on you and even the finger wave, which I believe Cynthia is seen doing in the anime. even their faces when they lose (for her, in the anime) match near exactly. that same scrunched up forced smile. literally no other character is as DIRECTLY referenced as Cynthia is to Volo. and none of it was even necessary when the very moment we saw his official art pre-release we ALL instantly recognized Cynthia in him. we didn't need them to beat us over the head with the connection, it's obvious. that is, unless they're trying to make the point that Volo is different from the others, that he's not just another ancestor like everyone else, he's something more. and while some think he and Cogita are both related to Cynthia, Cogita clearly at no point has any fondness for him, even as one of the few remaining Celestica in Hisui, so that wouldn't make any sense. and if he were just a fake out bait and switch and Cogita is her real ancestor, then why would Volo have basically ALL of her traits? a bait and switch wouldn't do that. you'd want the similarities to end once Cogita is revealed. a bait and switch has to actually *switch* while many in the Japanese fandom think Volo (and Cogita) are basically immortal and Volo lived on to became the backpacker that you meet at Sinjoh, my pet theory is he actually dies (possibly by his own hand, or by accident blinded by his anger at you thwarting his plans. they do drive home how dangerous it is in Hisui when you're by yourself after all) not too long after your fight, but it's because you show Arceus the world through your eyes with that little piece of it that it lets you keep, and it sees how humans can change and grow given the chance, how much circumstances mold an individual's behavior and view, and so when Volo dies, it allows him to come back and try again, to earn the right to stand before it, and he does. as Cynthia. the same soul, the same feelings, the same desire nearing obsession, but a new outlook on the world. a loving childhood in a safe environment fostering a love for the world and a pure curiosity, instead of the pain and abuse that fed a need for revenge. or maybe I'm just way overthinking things bc he's one of my favorite characters lol but I'd love to know what you think!

[@ethacon]

I believe that much like real life Japan; the ancient cultures of the Japanese inspired regions have much overlap and are connected to each other. I think that at one point in time, all of these regions were once united under a single civilization, the Dragon Empire.

[@ccarbs9204]

togepi reminds me of calumon from digimon

[@CakeofRage]

...omg i can see it now

[@thezemag]

Paradox forms are not naturally existing within the timelines. I don't see them anyway related to the origin of the 3 legendary dogs.

[@VaskoGames]

Oh deer! What an awesome intro!

[@Mcflyeon]

I was thinking of Cynthia when you mentioned that Glaceon trainer XD.

[@5Porygon]

Thank you so much for all videos you made. You are one of my absolutely best youtubers ever. :) Jsi borec. Mám moc rád tvoji tvorbu. Zdraví Nogy.

[@ExHappyFace]

It's been years. i am still after that egg plush. i will wait until it returns or find another seller at a similar quality. Great vid by the way.

[@BirdKeeperToby]

Aw thank you mate ^^

[@chaosdragun1608]

Nothing like your vids. Going to miss these

[@BirdKeeperToby]

Thank youuu

[@TBustah]

Doesn’t that present a classic time travel paradox, though? Togepi are only found in a peaceful future that will only be achieved by bringing Togepi eggs back to the present.

[@bitterney]

You really cooked with this video i have never thought of any of this before

[@BirdKeeperToby]

Aw ty ty ^_^

[@pkmntrainermark8881]

4:45 That's... an interesting trio of Unown.

[@BirdKeeperToby]

The 3 letters that have represented the Unown across the franchise.

[@pkmntrainermark8881]

@@BirdKeeperToby Do they use A a lot? I know F and G are the Sugimori artworks.

[@kotlolish]

Volo has a togepi cause.... he freed Giratina and started the time/space distortions. He been to the peaceful future probably... and took a Togepi with him. Cause now he wants to create an even better future. Remember the Volo seems to be upset he wasn't chosen for anything... he was up for greatness and was willing to do anything to snatch it.. even from the god of the pokemon world itself. That is why VOLO has a Togepi and raises it well. Since he was probably ment to get one from the Kimono girls but was denied this... then prayed to Arceus and was denied anything.. so he took everything he could just to get his "Destiny" and "his right" That or he IS from the peaceful future then went back in time. But personally I think it makes more sense and more in charater that he wants to create a perfect future for his people and pokemon as is his birthright. This is why he gets Togekiss in the end.. cause... deep beneath he isn't abusing his pokemon... he is just trying to make a future where someone like Giovanni and Cypher would never exist!

[@ExHappyFace]

Dunking on my boy Volo. I guess could gotten one the first Togapri before they went extinct and are only from eggs in the modern day.

[@Levi_Heicho]

Because togepi won our hearts when it became Misty’s iconic companion 😤

[@Axecon1]

Volo has a Togepi because he may be a time traveler just like the player character in Legends Arceus and is not an ancestor or Cynthia but possibly a descendant (Cogita is Cynthia's true ancestor). However, unlike the player character, Volo may hail from a different time period and could have stolen a Togepi egg with ill intent. How he got it to evolve into a Togetic by friendship and lack of a pure heart is beyond me.

[@FabulousDi2002]

Volo being a time traveller makes zero sense 😭 Also has anyone ever considered that his Togepi evolved because she actually likes him??? Him being the antagonist doesn't mean he hates his pokemon

[@creature6715]

People tend to have multiple ancestors

[@FabulousDi2002]

Both Cogita and Volo are Cynthia's ancestors since they are implied to be related

[@pikanonymous512]

But Toby! Why does Volo have a Togepi?? 😂

[@PadSapphire]

Volo probably has a Togepi because he was good person, with good intentions but got corrupted by Giratina's influence

[@pitbullseatkids2682]

I hope that after his story in legends arceus he would do some serious soul searching and become less of a villain

[@theserpent8667]

Hmm. Perhaps in the future, something close to what Lysandre envisioned came to pass, with the world becoming more peaceful and beautiful, leading to an influx of Togepi.

[@katies7158]

Toby is a Disney princess: confirmed ✅️

[@M_Alexander]

Stantler? Looks more like a Deerling to me!

[@fluffybunnybadass]

I love how you just repeatedly have to bring up how volo is a weird random exception (wrt in-verse lore. we all know why he has one at a meta level!) could it be because he had it with him from ancient times, before the celestica people were annihilated? provided he is some weird eternal living person.

[@zivamayne]

Unown look like biblically accurate angels

[@bankrupt_batman]

I really wish i easnt afraid of airplanes. Ive wanted to see australia all my life.

[@geekecology]

Pokémon Travel Channel when?

[@Toddthechaos]

I looked up bill from Pokemon Bulbapedia it says bill only has two sisters

[@brocksmith7650]

Nara is SO beautiful! I got nipped so much from the deer stealing the biscuits from my pocket! Did you see the Buddha?

[@BirdKeeperToby]

Yeah they nipped at me a lot haha. And yeah same

[@StrawberryStickRB]

Maybe volo has one because it agrees with him?

[@nissanzenkiboy]

Hey did you see those deers horns they have little hairs!

[@THELIFEOFVIEWS1]

Wait till all the Komodo girls are bill’s Sisters not just one

[@BirdKeeperToby]

I believe so yeah

[@fruit3193]

Wait, the Kimono Girls are descended from the people who made the Ruins of Alph? First I’m hearing of this, but neat, makes sense. …Cynthia is not a Kimono Girl. She’s not even connected to Johto, unless you count Sinjoh which is a big stretch.

[@BirdKeeperToby]

I think you’re missing my meaning. She’s not a literal Kimono girl obviously not she’s the series Glaceon user connected too them in the same way Valerie is with Sylveon. Her dialogue in the Simon ruins event as well as her gifting of the togepi egg convinces me of a similar role in the story and likely some connection

[@DeltaZinnia]

Volo is from the future

[@BirdKeeperToby]

👀👀👀 could be could be

[@sethbieber5127]

Long for no reason, and barely anything about togepi.. I'm gonna miss your older content, you're good content. But I'm glad you're stepping into your own life and building your own joy.

[@BirdKeeperToby]

Long compared to a TikTok sure but it’s only 11 mins and there is like 4 videos in one here all building to the one about Togepi :’)

[@sethbieber5127]

@BirdKeeperToby I'm sorry, your leaving is just bittersweet.. and most of the togepi stuff was at the end. I've watched most of your other videos, so I didn't take much from this video, since I have already head cannon'd your previous theories lol

[@n1hondude]

This is now canon, I don’t care what Nintendo says because nintendoesntcateaboutfans

[@veraxiana9993]

Omg that deer in the Intro was SOOO precious!!! ❤❤🦌

[@charliebaines5365]

Howcome the deer isn’t scared?

[@BirdKeeperToby]

They’re very used to people in the park

[@pittoopokemon]

Mm egg in me

[@Aluran]

Oh your in Japan

[@pkmntrainermark8881]

Hang on, I don't think the Kimono Girls are Bill's sisters. Where did that come from? I know his mom used to be one.

[@merlijnbal221]

yeah ash found the egg and then also stole it

[@kaydenahmed]

Blocking kids from saying first

[@Hip-Gnosis1134]

Doing Arceus work 🙏

[@ianfairbanks1318]

FYI folks, showing that much body hair in Japan is considered DIGUSTING. The Japanese do not like body hair at all, and you SHOULD NOT show it off, even if your'e a tourist. please don't do this.

[@BirdKeeperToby]

I’m googling this now because I hadn’t heard that to be the case and google doesn’t seem to suggest that body hair is in anyway considered disgusting or offensive just uncommon. Additionally we did a considerable amount of research as to not cause offence given the reputation KZbinrs in particular have out there and nothing about body hair was mentioned anywhere. Finally we were travelling with a number of people who were currently in Japan for several years and this didn’t come up at all. If you can point me in the direction of some sources on this I’d be happy to read them. If it is the case the Japanese public have my apologies but in 100+ degree heat I’d hope they’d understand.

[@ianfairbanks1318]

​@@BirdKeeperToby I myself, being an american, and being in Japan, august of 2019, can wholeheartedly understand the heat, and the need to unleash the man fur. i get it. ill link the video from my source.