WHY TREVOR MADE A MISTAKE BY FORGIVING MICHAEL?

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@aastik99
@aastik99 11 ай бұрын
I remembered what Tenpenny said to CJ ,"Homies for life, street loyalty, it's all bs"
@AHX214
@AHX214 11 ай бұрын
"Eddie I can't talk to this guy, he's a f***** idiot!"
@miguelpasamano4995
@miguelpasamano4995 10 ай бұрын
"Didn't you learn that what they ran you out of town just because you let Brian die?"
@AjayKumar-wu1vi
@AjayKumar-wu1vi 10 ай бұрын
Because he wanted to clear his head there is no one on the back to save him/help him now
@miguelpasamano4995
@miguelpasamano4995 10 ай бұрын
"C'mon, CJ! How you think he got that new house? Huh? Just let that "Grove 4 Life" bullshit go and take a look around you."
@joanfelicianoo
@joanfelicianoo 11 ай бұрын
As a famous person once said: "Witness protection for what?"
@soranyk004
@soranyk004 11 ай бұрын
Hah I get the reference
@Cralist
@Cralist 11 ай бұрын
No one was convicted of anything 😈
@painfullybadnoob
@painfullybadnoob 5 ай бұрын
Where is DarkViperAU on this!?
@NASCARFAN93100
@NASCARFAN93100 10 ай бұрын
The Reasons Why Trevor Forgave Michael: 1. Michael Quit Being Selfish 2. Trevor Would Never Harm Michael's Family 3. Brad Never Changed 4. The People Against Michael, Trevor & Franklin Were Worse 5. Loyalty Towards Franklin
@bobhill3941
@bobhill3941 6 ай бұрын
I completely agree with your analysis combined with what was said in the video and that's why I chose ending C. Plus, on a personal level, I couldn't bring myself to kill either of them. I liked how they chose to band together and go after the people pulling their strings.
@lovableairheadmile6809
@lovableairheadmile6809 5 ай бұрын
Clearly someone here is a fan of the professional
@NASCARFAN93100
@NASCARFAN93100 5 ай бұрын
@@lovableairheadmile6809 He's The GOAT
@lovableairheadmile6809
@lovableairheadmile6809 5 ай бұрын
@@NASCARFAN93100 the goat
@lovableairheadmile6809
@lovableairheadmile6809 5 ай бұрын
@@NASCARFAN93100 professional definitely my fav lore KZbinr of GTA
@Arck171_Br
@Arck171_Br 11 ай бұрын
15:15 When Devin offers work, Michael says "I've got the right guy for you" referring to Franklin, right before Devin mentions Solomon Richards. In other words, regardless of whether Devin brought up the Richards thing, Michael would still recommend Franklin for the job. And it would have been a good opportunity if Devin hadn't refused to pay later. Michael's change of mind refers to HE not wanting to work for Devin, only if he received something bigger (Which you, me and anyone else would do too) just like he did. And also, I hate how people condemn Michael as if he were the worst villain of all. On the level of Dimitri Rascalov, Big Smoke or even Catalina. He betrayed because he had to instead of just betraying because he simply could. Trevor was dangerous to him and his family. Sure, it becomes clear throughout the game that Trevor has no intention of harming Michael's family, he even appears to like them. But the problem is not that he intended to do this. He just brings this, this chaos. Wherever he goes. That's what people don't understand. Take Floyd as an example. Trevor literally destroyed his life, even though he had no intention of doing so. Or the Merryweather Heist, where he steals a highly classified, government-protected superweapon that obviously wasn't a good idea to steal since you wouldn't be alive to enjoy the money. If it weren't for Lester, I would have condemned them all. He doesn't think about the consequences of his actions, how dangerous they can be for those close to him. You wouldn't want Trevor near you and your family. Plus, Michael didn't betray Lester, as he said in Friend Request. He helped and welcomed Franklin, even trying to lie to the FIB that Franklin was fixing his car to prevent his involvement, only giving in when Dave threatened to send men to Franklin's aunt's house. He's not as cold and traitorous as you think.
@bryanpate9531
@bryanpate9531 11 ай бұрын
Finally someone said it I don't care how "loyal" Trevor is how many people did he kill before Micheal betrayed him it's just something i think about
@ajjohnson3416
@ajjohnson3416 8 ай бұрын
Snaking is not an option, it doesn’t matter how bad or tied you are in something you don’t snake people to be killed, the fact that you see this acceptable tells me your a person your friends need to be careful of
@Arck171_Br
@Arck171_Br 7 ай бұрын
​@@ajjohnson3416"acceptable"? At no point do I agree with what Michael did, but I understand why he did what he did. He did what he thought was necessary. Even though in the end it wasn't really necessary. He chose his own safety and the safety of his family over his cannibal, maniac, torturer and sadist friend! But like I said, the way Michael decided to get rid of Trevor was completely wrong. He tried to kill him instead of simply ending their partnership with a conversation and leaving.
@ajjohnson3416
@ajjohnson3416 7 ай бұрын
@@Arck171_Br I get everyone has their own way of thinking but there’s no understanding about it because of family, that’s just to throw you off, look how he treated his family, Amanda cheated on him, Tracey hated him, his son drugged him & lied on him by saying he was under the influence. The guy blames everyone for what he did, he only cares for himself & to be fair I rather trust Trevor than Micheal, even when Trevor came to him he still was lying to him, I get that part because he knew he was screwed if he had told the truth, but he did help Franklin kill him while Trevor took no part in his death. If Micheal cared for his family he wouldn’t be robbing banks in the first place, he already put them in danger
@Arck171_Br
@Arck171_Br 7 ай бұрын
​@@ajjohnson3416Part of what you said is true. Even though Michael supposedly tried to do everything for his family, the relationship between them was never very good. In fact, much of the conflict in the family is caused by Michael himself and his complicated temperament. For example, the fact that Amanda kept cheating on him with other men only happened because Michael had cheated on her first. But the claim that he doesn't love them or doesn't care about putting them in danger is completely wrong. Michael becomes extremely depressed and regretful when he is abandoned by his family in the story. When he manages to get them back and the possibility arises of losing them again at the hands of Devin Weston, he fights to protect them, even though he missed the premiere of his first film that he was dreaming of producing. Proving that all Michael wanted was to live in peace, doing what he likes with his family by his side. And deep down, behind all the conflicts, Michael really shows that he loves his family. Even though he is unable to express himself in the desired way. In every Heist in which Michael planned or participated, his motive was always a debt, promise or even blackmail that was made against him. Never simply because he want to steal. Heist Jewelry was due to the huge and short-term debt that Michael had with Martin Madrazo. The Merryweather Heist was at Trevor's insistence. The Blitz Play Heist was due to threats from the FIB. The Paleto Score and The Bureau Raid were also due to pressure from the FIB. In The Big Score it was to calm Trevor down and stop him from killing him. Of course, several times during the game Michael admits that it felt good to steal again. But he himself knows and imposes limits on what he can or cannot do and soon after discovering another profession that he liked and which is mainly honest, he decides to abandon the life of crime once and for all after carrying out his last robbery.
@Mitsurugi2424
@Mitsurugi2424 11 ай бұрын
That's not what happened tho. Michael said, on several occasions, that he realized Trevor was a psychopath. A legitimate crazy person who had no problem doing anything to get what he wanted, or to even feel good. This includes indiscriminate murder, cannibalism, non-consensual stuff, and even rewriting history from previous games. Michael wanted money, sure, but that's it. Stealing was a job for Michael, and he never hid that. Trevor just wanted it wanted it to be some messed up bromance murder gang. I am not saying Michael is a saint, and deserving of pity, and the best character in the game. I am just saying R* made it clear why this was happening in the prologue, made sure you realized it in some of the exchanges between Michael and Franklin, and then cemented it when Trevor showed up like a feral animal at the end.
@RowKing2323
@RowKing2323 11 ай бұрын
Michael is luck he ain't dealing with someone like the Boss in the original Saints Row, look what he did to Julius in Saints Row 2 after Julius betrayed him in Saint Row 1. The Boss have no forgiveness for betrayal even after they team up to get out of danger before they could get killed, the Boss still kill him.
@NinjaskKing
@NinjaskKing 10 ай бұрын
The moral complexity of GTA 5 is actually compelling, you could say micheal is a man caught in a tough spot with a family and needs ways out or call him a selfish snake with no honor. With Trevor you could say he was a unhinged maniac that needed to be put down or he was a the better man standing by his principles and honor while micheal wanted his way by any means necessary. It’s left open to interpretation but I’ll say that I think Trevor was in the right to feel betrayed here considering nobody involved here is a saint and calling Trevor anything but just another guy involved is counterintuitive to the discussion.
@Gazpacho834
@Gazpacho834 11 ай бұрын
You know I always wondered why Michael never asked Lester to create him a fake identity.
@justsomeguy747
@justsomeguy747 11 ай бұрын
I think it would've been more dangerous. Say that the FIB or IAA would discover that Michael Townley is alive, the Townley couple would've been arrested and their children would be orphans, probably in foster care or even separated from each other. Worst case scenario for their family.
@PuzzleMV
@PuzzleMV 11 ай бұрын
​@@justsomeguy747 His kids are adults.. tracy would do her porn stuff and Jimmy would be homeless or working in a fast food
@lovableairheadmile6809
@lovableairheadmile6809 5 ай бұрын
​@@justsomeguy747the thing is.... Michael's face isn't known, otherwise even faking his death won't work and he could still be identified. The fact that this isnt the case means Michael's facial identity is not known by the feds
@papajubjub8139
@papajubjub8139 11 ай бұрын
5:56 an ozzy man who hates cougars is very happy
@thecamishere4344
@thecamishere4344 11 ай бұрын
while yes Trevor refused to take out Michael with Franklin in option B, that is canceled out IMMEDIATELY because he doesn't try to talk Franklin out of killing Michael nor does he do the very least warning Michael that Franklin is coming for him. So he's not much better
@ajjohnson3416
@ajjohnson3416 8 ай бұрын
Are you here really justifying Micheal’s actions and making out like Trevor is no better? If anything Micheal is lucky that’s all Trevor did because realistically he should have killed him since he set up Trevor for death
@lovableairheadmile6809
@lovableairheadmile6809 5 ай бұрын
Also remember trevor and Micheal never settled their difference in OPTION B, they only settled their beef in the option C, trevor still hates Micheal in this scenario and is more upset that Franklin will betray Micheal.
@libertyisland6950
@libertyisland6950 11 ай бұрын
If you noticed when you play as Trevor you see that he isn't succesful The deal with Mr. Chang, the merrryweather heist He was succesful with Michael but for the topic he did it right to forgive him because of his family
@cejay3760
@cejay3760 11 ай бұрын
20:01 Also on top of that G.I. Brad was also a psycho and much worse than Trevor as The professional pointed out even going as far as saying he can only kill hostages if Michael shoots the girl in the prologue, if brad was the one who lived and Trevor died not only who he have killed Micheal but also his entire family even going as far as to make Michael watch brad kill them, Trevor would never go that far if he chose to kill Micheal.
@degenratex4834
@degenratex4834 11 ай бұрын
Trevor did the right thing by not killing Michael. He did weight out the conquests of what could happen. He thought if Jimmy and Tracy and how their life could have turn out. If he killed Michael then his kids life turns out very bad. Like look what happens when you kill Micheal as Franklin, we can expect Jimmy is gonna go through a hard time understanding that the man his father had trusted had killed him. Tracy life could have led to her ending up like her mother in her younger years as stripper/ prostitute. So yeah Trevor most likely didn't want Tracey or Jimmy's life to go to shit if he had killed Michael.
@ajjohnson3416
@ajjohnson3416 8 ай бұрын
Micheal supports Trevor’s death guess that’s the right thing for Micheal too?🤔
@justsomeguy747
@justsomeguy747 11 ай бұрын
Trevor valued Michael and his family, despite his family wieghing him down. He was angry because Michael betrayed his trust and screwed him over. I think that Michael felt guilt for betraying Trevor before his arrival, judging by how miserable he appeared in the beginning. He goes to a therapist early on, showing that he is depressed, likely from the gulit of his betrayal, similar to Derrick's heroin addiction to assuage the memories of his treachery. I think both were wrong for the way they went about things, but I think that another way, potentially Lester creating Michael Townley a new identity, could've put his and his family's life at risk. Sure, Dave was corrupt, but no one ever came after Michael for his secret. (Apart from Trevor). The FIB or the IAA finding that out would result in him and Amanda being imprisoned as complicit in Michael's crimes as a witness and his children being orphans. Michael would never want that and it would be the worst case scenario for the Townley family. I agree that Michael is selfish, but after Devin promised him that he'll connect him to Solomon, Michael realized that there might be some perks working for him, something that will make him happy and keep his crew satisfied. Michael didn't know that Devin would screw the crew over. He describes Devin best: "Twisted fuck." If Michael only cared about himself, he would've potentially betrayed Franklin and Lester, which he never did. As for Michael talking shit about Trevor, that's how he sees him from their friendship together, and attempts to justify his betrayal. He realized from their time that Trevor does care about him, despite what he did. Michael's shit-talking came out of fear that Trevor would discover his betrayal and also stress of what Trevor might do, because he precieved him as a threat to his family. When Trevor finally gave up on his goal, Michael realized that Trevor is to be reasoned with and the two worked to enact revenge on those who betrayed them. Additionally, I'd like to point out that Michael was hesitant to betray Trevor again in Ending A and wanted out of it but came along because he roped Franklin into this whole FIB deal.
@walterwhite99.6
@walterwhite99.6 11 ай бұрын
Finally, A Time's Come for someone to talk Something Sensible.
@justsomeguy747
@justsomeguy747 11 ай бұрын
@@walterwhite99.6 Thanks man, and interesting choice of words
@lovableairheadmile6809
@lovableairheadmile6809 5 ай бұрын
100% agree like i pointed out in another comment, lester could have been the one to make him and his family new fake identities, And I Pretty much agree with everything here.
@miguelpasamano4995
@miguelpasamano4995 10 ай бұрын
I remember when TenPenny gave CJ a much-needed reality-check and said "Homies for life? Street loyalty? That's all bullshit, Carl. Didn't you learn that what they ran you out of town just because you let Brian die?".
@synthesis8157
@synthesis8157 11 ай бұрын
I think T valued his friendship with Mike, and maybe realized if he was put in Mike's shoes he might understand Mike's reasoning, although not complying with it, maybe if it was Brad... also if Trevor despite Mike actions, maybe forgiveness was a way of him wanting to be the better person in case, you can't deny Mike never felt proud of his actions, Trevor in another hand knows better and rather move on than make the same mistake of screwing with a friendship, he might saw though Mike some regret.
@madhunter6420
@madhunter6420 11 ай бұрын
Michael always was open and immediatelly jumped into betraying someone for his own gain, ending B also has michael say they should roll on T Ending B makes total sense. Ending A also makes sense as it is realistic too Ending C is kind of a fairytale but decent
@SleepyjoeOG
@SleepyjoeOG 11 ай бұрын
Ending C is what is canon
@primedemarr
@primedemarr 8 ай бұрын
doesn't matyer he talm bout realistic ​@@SleepyjoeOG
@saintakins187
@saintakins187 11 ай бұрын
Trevor Phillips is the Godfather of Michael Townley's son & daughter, once you get that life promotion you become more merciful & forgiving if wrath isn't one of the seven deadly sins.
@AH-is5yg
@AH-is5yg 11 ай бұрын
Glad Trevor forgave Michael
@pyroAdapt
@pyroAdapt 7 ай бұрын
"why would Michael need witnesses protection if he has a new identity?" Uhh... Anyone care to explain to him how witness protection works? Lol
@kaisertrinityt.m.i.s1607
@kaisertrinityt.m.i.s1607 9 ай бұрын
i still wonder how dave norton and micheal met in the first place, after all dave was on the side of law
@wilycasady6639
@wilycasady6639 11 ай бұрын
he did the right thing forgiving mike.
@ajjohnson3416
@ajjohnson3416 8 ай бұрын
No he did not
@Spelltron1972
@Spelltron1972 7 ай бұрын
He betrayed everyone he knew and in ending a he teams up with Franklin to kill Trevor
@ordafles5360
@ordafles5360 3 ай бұрын
​@@Spelltron1972 C is the canon not A Franklins reactions in A and B prooves stop spreading nomsense.
@ordafles5360
@ordafles5360 3 ай бұрын
​@@ajjohnson3416 He did stop the fanboy thing.
@ajjohnson3416
@ajjohnson3416 3 ай бұрын
@ordafles5360 just because c is the cannon doesn't mean micheals actions cannot be spoken about joker.
@miguelpasamano4995
@miguelpasamano4995 10 ай бұрын
Frank should've told Lamar how Devin WesTon ripped them off when Lamar mentioned their work together for Devin WesTon they had that long talk on their way from Paleto Bay back to Forum Street.
@fluffyflufffox1385
@fluffyflufffox1385 11 ай бұрын
6:01 that’s what DarkViperAU said 😂😂😂😂
@miguelpasamano4995
@miguelpasamano4995 11 ай бұрын
No reason. Michael's in no position to deem anyone deathworthy. Trevor's not either. Frank went to Lester for help. Lester came up with the plan to save Michael and Trevor. Frank recruited Lamar for backup. Frank, Michael, and Trevor killed Wei Cheng, Stretch, Steve Haines, and Devin WesTon then went their separate ways. GTA OnLine confirms it.
@miguelpasamano4995
@miguelpasamano4995 10 ай бұрын
R* should've made a mission which has Michael and Trevor help Frank and Lamar take back Grove Street for the Families for good in GTA5.
@jedipadwan20
@jedipadwan20 10 ай бұрын
I say yes but should have nearly killed Michael and then forgive him, so Michael would think twice about betraying him.
@gerardsloan1593
@gerardsloan1593 11 ай бұрын
Trevor for all his flaws, is interesting in that he has forgiven someone? This is an anomally in this line of work lol. A good day all.
@WarVeteran213
@WarVeteran213 9 ай бұрын
I would love to see in GTA6 if Trevor and Michael are in the game, if Trevor dies because of Michael or something because he forgives him for back in north Yankton in 2004 in GTA5 and basically have Trevor killed off to also give an ironic death for forgiving Michael, kind of like how Johnny did with Ashley to have her back in his life, just to have her cheat on Johnny with Trevor and Trevor murdering Johnny, and heck not just Trevor Michael as well if they both had an ironic death in gta6, well to be fair in the endings both of their deaths are ironic in a way for what happened but still
@orirotem2298
@orirotem2298 11 ай бұрын
Not a mistake at all they restored their relations
@The-Plaguefellow
@The-Plaguefellow 10 ай бұрын
My takeaway from all this was that therapists outside of Dr. Friedlander don't exist, despite how helpful they would've been to... Everyone, in GTA. Albeit, this *is* America, and any medical help costs an arm and a leg here so...
@bowkatiewow
@bowkatiewow 11 ай бұрын
I haven’t gotten a notification for this channel in ages. Thanks KZbin 😅 🙄 Quality video! Trevor is one of my favourite gta characters.
@Invidente7
@Invidente7 11 ай бұрын
Why not? Trevor does everything he wants to at anytime, heck he could even steal Michael's family as well.
@WarVeteran213
@WarVeteran213 9 ай бұрын
Trevor wouldn’t hurt Michaels family at least not jimmy and Tracy
@ajjohnson3416
@ajjohnson3416 8 ай бұрын
Yeah I think you should play the game again since you just making stuff up as you type
@miguelpasamano4995
@miguelpasamano4995 10 ай бұрын
If ending c was for Frank, Michael, and Trevor fight off 11% of MerryWeather and kill Stretch, Wei Cheng, Steve Haines, and Devin WesTon then go their own separate ways, that'd've been the perfect ending.
@miguelpasamano4995
@miguelpasamano4995 10 ай бұрын
CJ, Niko, and Frank were very exceptionally moral.
@SOM-v4o
@SOM-v4o 2 ай бұрын
So far Victor Vance maybe the most moral.
@miguelpasamano4995
@miguelpasamano4995 2 ай бұрын
I don't acknowledge GTA: AdVance, GTA: LCS, GTA: VCS, GTA: ChinaTown Wars, or GTA 5: OnLine. I barely even acknowledge GTA 4: TLaD, GTA 4: TBoGT, and GTA 5
@akashprasad5750
@akashprasad5750 11 ай бұрын
looking at the history of betrayals in GTA universe, who thinks Jason will betray Lucia or vice versa in GTA VI?
@madhunter6420
@madhunter6420 11 ай бұрын
theres so much flickering at character's cutscene shadows
@SOM-v4o
@SOM-v4o 2 ай бұрын
1 thing where it may have hit michael maybe is when he tells Franklin to distance from him for Trevors death. I don't know if it was because he didn't care for Franklin and tried to keep any trouble away from him and his family after doing the job for Devin and his associates or if Michael really felt for his old friend.
@FaSE_CS
@FaSE_CS 11 ай бұрын
Bro can u do explanation why sweet doesn't ask cj where's ryder at the end of the game, and the fact in the mission "the green sabre he only said big smoke the traitor and did not said ryder"
@Lvl22Cowboy
@Lvl22Cowboy 3 ай бұрын
I love Michael. He is my favorite GTA5 character. Saying that, his actions torwards Trevor and sometimes to Franklin are unforgivable. He kind of deserved to die
@Andy_77799
@Andy_77799 10 ай бұрын
Yoo respect for playing the Driver:Parallel Lines intro song in the video
@ordafles5360
@ordafles5360 3 ай бұрын
Micheal and Trevor are both protoganist and antagonist
@nawazeeshali4340
@nawazeeshali4340 11 ай бұрын
Michael had every right to give up crime and live a honest quiet safe life with his family, he didn't kill Trevor or harm him anyway he just hid himself from a monster look at what Trevor did to Wade's friends including daisy bell and cousine Floyd and Debra (people defend that as if Floyd and Debra were the bad guys, Debra was a caree3r woman living a good life and didn't need crazy Trevor ruining things and waht she said about Floyd not getting rid of a sick man like him and Floyd not being a brave man was right, Trevor had no business poking his nose in their life, then Trevor killed Leon who never harmed him), if Trevor wasn't a playable character no one would defend him, yes in A Michael helps to kill Trevor but don't forget Trevor l;eft Michael to die too after finding Brad, its not michael's fault Brad died and he didn';t harm Trevor before Trevor forced himself back on his life, Michael just wanted a normaL happy safe life with his family, no one would ever defend Trevor if he wasn't a protagonist people would kill him immediately for what he did to Johnny and how he endangered Michael, Franklin and everyone!!
@breezy6859
@breezy6859 10 ай бұрын
Thank you! People act like Trevor’s loyalty to Micheal erases what Trevor has done to other people. Look at what Trevor did to Johnny K.
@nawazeeshali4340
@nawazeeshali4340 10 ай бұрын
@@breezy6859 Trevor isn't that loyal to Michael either he left Michael to die after discovering Barad's body and it was not Michael's fault Brad died either , Michael just used the circumstances to have a normal life.
@ajjohnson3416
@ajjohnson3416 8 ай бұрын
You lot must be smoking something, you expect Trevor to support Micheal after hearing that Micheal tried to have him killed are you ok? Imagine thinking someone was your best friend, lying to you & then to only find out they are complete snake, I don’t blame Trevor for not trying to save him, really and truly Trevor should have killed Micheal, the guy is a liar & a backstabbing selfish guy that you lot ignore and look past. If Micheal didn’t do any of those things to Trevor, Trevor would have 100% saved Micheal without question, so don’t try flip the script on Trevor to make out like Micheal is good person when he clearly is not. But I bet you lot be the same ones to act surprise if any of your friends did this, or it’s either you lot snake your own friends and can’t see the problem…
@ajjohnson3416
@ajjohnson3416 8 ай бұрын
@@nawazeeshali4340bro are you blind or stupid, how do you mean is not Micheal’s fault why Brad died? Trevor isn’t that loyal but Micheal is yeah? Regardless if Brad didn’t die, it would have been Trevor in the ground and Brad in prison, so yes it is Micheal’s fault… everything is his fault, most just look passed his problems because his a fan favourite character. Micheal is the one who set up the deal & planned it so stop making excuses for the snake, I’ve seen this comment from you more than once
@ordafles5360
@ordafles5360 3 ай бұрын
​@@nawazeeshali4340 Trevor was loyal until found out what he did to him.
@trentonbates3114
@trentonbates3114 11 ай бұрын
Lmao I thought this channel was ran by a whole studio 😂 Also is it me or did Catalina actually like cj? Cause she did call him for the rest of the game after she left to make him jealous. I can't be the only one who thinks this!
@ordafles5360
@ordafles5360 3 ай бұрын
Micheal wanted to protect his family and himself and get out of the criminal life.
@ordafles5360
@ordafles5360 3 ай бұрын
Probably Micheal was afraid of Trevor before he got shot.
@هايالقناةفقطتجربة
@هايالقناةفقطتجربة 11 ай бұрын
before i start this comment i wanna say that i don't think that michael was right nor that trevor is bad but i like how everybody is acting like they could've done better than michael like when you have a psychotic friend that only wants to constantly rob banks forever and might bring the police on your ass and by the way money is just a small reason on why he robs banks he just does it for fun and on top of all that you have a family to take care of yes michael was still wrong but he was in a tough situation and he had to think fast
@ajjohnson3416
@ajjohnson3416 8 ай бұрын
Snaking is not an option
@breezy6859
@breezy6859 10 ай бұрын
I feel like Micheal made the right decision. The only issue was making sure Trevor wasn’t dead. Micheal had a family and far more to lose. I see people sticking up for Trevor saying he’s loyal. Some of us will never forget Johnny K. I like the ending where you kill Trevor but I hate Micheals regrets after the fact. Witness protection is changing your identity so technically Micheal was in Witness protection. Trevor was a loose cannon and extremely dangerous
@ajjohnson3416
@ajjohnson3416 8 ай бұрын
The only reason why you agree to this because you’re most likely a snake in real life or some sort of narcissist he doesn’t take responsibility to your own actions that’s why you can relate to Micheal. I mean if you think Micheal made the right decision then you ain’t no type of person anyone should trust
@Gundamxking1997
@Gundamxking1997 5 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠@@ajjohnson3416seems like you described yours self seeing as every comment you make you seem hurt hurt
@lovableairheadmile6809
@lovableairheadmile6809 5 ай бұрын
He had a corrupt deal with dave and is transferring 5 figures to dave EVERY month. And for the record the reason Michael was forgiven by trevor is cause of his kids. As he told franklin if they hang out. The fact that Michael's identity was not known by the feds otherwise name changing wont work and trevor was willing to leave out Micheal from the crew to continue it with brad. Lester is also someone who can make fake identities for michael and his family. Yes he had to get out of the crew. That's a fact, doesn't also change the fact that he is a traitor. The whole FiB mess he got himself into was his fault, cause of what he did when steve looked into Dave's files and found out about the deal he had with Micheal
@lovableairheadmile6809
@lovableairheadmile6809 5 ай бұрын
Michael needed out that's true, but like I said The way he did it was his fault. The fact that he wanted to have trevor cap whom was supposedly his best friend. The fact that he would help kill Trevor when Trevor won't help to kill him.
@lovableairheadmile6809
@lovableairheadmile6809 5 ай бұрын
Also this comment makes it seem like you're only upset that trevor killed johnny, blame the writers on that one for literally assassinating his character, the johnny in V is nowhere close to how good he was on TLAD
@Sigmondenglebertsaxonkaser
@Sigmondenglebertsaxonkaser 11 ай бұрын
Putting your kids first is the most loyal thing a man can do
@ajjohnson3416
@ajjohnson3416 8 ай бұрын
There’s ways to do it, snaking is not an option
@Sigmondenglebertsaxonkaser
@Sigmondenglebertsaxonkaser 8 ай бұрын
@@ajjohnson3416 I would do anything for my children if I had to
@ajjohnson3416
@ajjohnson3416 8 ай бұрын
@@Sigmondenglebertsaxonkaser yes do anything for them but planning to have your best friend killed because of actions you caused knowing the risks you was taking at first and now want to snake your friend then use a cheap excuse of your family when it’s not the case, his done it out of greed and selfishines
@ordafles5360
@ordafles5360 3 ай бұрын
​@@ajjohnson3416 Micheal and Amanda were afraid of Trevor that he will kill all of them thats why Amanda doesnt want Trevor near them because you dont know when he goes crazy and he is a perve.
@ajsmith5686
@ajsmith5686 11 ай бұрын
Can you do gta girlfriend logic please
@DanteMikial69
@DanteMikial69 6 ай бұрын
This is why alot of people don’t like Michael too😂
@ayylmao2040
@ayylmao2040 11 күн бұрын
I think Trevor's actions in ending B, isn't much more laudable than Michael's in A. Yes, Michael helps Franklin kill Trevor, but in ending B, Trevor's inaction is just as much a betrayal. He forgoes his own greatest virtue, loyalty, and chooses to let Michael die, becoming the same traitor he said he abhorred. All it would have taken was a phone call to warn him, and Michael was saved. Jimmy and Tracey, who looked up to Trevor, get to still have a dad. But instead, he chose to let Michael die, and can spend the rest of his days realizing he's no better than Mikey in the end.
@Puxi
@Puxi 11 ай бұрын
Made. He MADE a mistake. Where are you from, man?!
@methodboy50
@methodboy50 10 ай бұрын
Keep up the good work.. love your content❤
@ajjohnson3416
@ajjohnson3416 8 ай бұрын
Even with enough evidence to show that Micheal cannot be trusted & is evil to his own friend, people still support this guy & see nothing wrong with what he did, I swear some people are just either blind or ignoring the fact what Micheal is just because they like him as a character but if the same thing is to happen to them in real life they wanna then complain. When lance betrays tommy people complain but Micheal does it, it’s not that deep. Hypocrites of today
@AjayKumar-wu1vi
@AjayKumar-wu1vi 10 ай бұрын
In this video I have a small doubt with the game ending 'Time's come ' if Trevor knew that Franklin is going to kill Michael by his call then rejects it . Then didn't he help Michael to kill frankly if friendship is meant something in his life or atleast tip Micheal to be vigilant around Franklin now on?/Trevor believed on Mikey that he will Frank if he made a move on him /believed on frankly that he may get some sense before doing anything stupid 😕 ( moreover Trevor knew that Mikey is atleast important until Dave narton clears their files to be clean) People who viewed by comment pls enlighten me that I said was right or not❤❤
@arthurmorgan1899rdr
@arthurmorgan1899rdr 11 ай бұрын
If ending B was to kill Michael as trevor that would be great ending
@miguelpasamano4995
@miguelpasamano4995 10 ай бұрын
If ending c was for Frank, Michael, and Trevor fight off 11% of MerryWeather and kill Stretch, Wei Cheng, Steve Haines, and Devin WesTon, that'd've been the perfect ending.
@SOM-v4o
@SOM-v4o 2 ай бұрын
21:02 That kind of desribes me and i hate it at tines.
@francskgp
@francskgp 11 ай бұрын
Is this video voiced by ai?
@SuperJimmie21
@SuperJimmie21 10 ай бұрын
Honestly, i killed Trevor because i didn't like him. Never returned to the game afterwards.
@ajjohnson3416
@ajjohnson3416 8 ай бұрын
You didn’t like him because he was real but you rather save a snake who will back stab you at anytime makes sense
@SuperJimmie21
@SuperJimmie21 8 ай бұрын
@ajjohnson3416 I didn't like any of them, but Trevor is a psycho so I chose him. Michael will just go be with his family and not danger society.
@tavellclinton9256
@tavellclinton9256 11 ай бұрын
I would remove this video if I were you!
@nafian_n
@nafian_n 10 ай бұрын
i love mike
@bluedan4306
@bluedan4306 11 ай бұрын
you took long to make this video
@frank1313
@frank1313 11 ай бұрын
Michael is a traitor, I never understand why people choose A over B.
@miguelpasamano4995
@miguelpasamano4995 10 ай бұрын
I chose ending c the canon ending.
@ajjohnson3416
@ajjohnson3416 8 ай бұрын
Because most people who chose a are snakes in real life like I said they can relate
@brunomarques6470
@brunomarques6470 3 ай бұрын
Johnny Klebitz
@ajjohnson3416
@ajjohnson3416 8 ай бұрын
The 77% people who agreed Trevor should forgive Micheal are snakes in real life so they can relate
@dakinademino977
@dakinademino977 4 ай бұрын
Hmm, simple family life with a wife, two kids and a dog with no worries, or hanging out with a meth addicted psychopath and his equally crazy buddy who kill for fun and giggles, one of which wants to kill you. Yeah no, Trevor was/is an issue that needs to be dealt with. The guy kills for fun, brags about being a cannibal, recommends that Jimmy should try meth instead of weed, Assaults Lazlow on live TV after dragging Micheal along to "save" Tracy, is hostile to Amanda, keeps Wade as a slave after murdering his friends, completely destroyed the life of Ron and treats him like a slave, keeps on picking fights with a mercenary army, steals a nuke and even kidnaps Madrazzo's wife getting Micheal exiled from his home. Seeing people call Trevor a noble and loyal friend makes me sick when we know he kills Wade's cousin and then lies to his face about what he did just as his did with Wade's friends when they tried to buy drugs from him. You can say the same about the way he completely fubared Ron's life, making him completely emotionally dependent on Trevor who then throws him aside when he got rich.
@awesome0873
@awesome0873 2 ай бұрын
Trevor definitely deserves to be brought to justice as does michael, which the game does a very good job of explaining throughout the story. Everyone labeles trevor as the monster he is, but michael is seen as a friend to everyone cutting deals with the law, helping franklin, and even Trevor sees him this way despite almost dieing multiple times all because of him. I think the point of this video is to show that michael is no better than trevor is because michael never cares about anyone besides himself only making decisions that would benefit his own life with no regard to how other are affected. Sure he was protecting his family, but he should know deep down that trevor is considered family. There’s not a single moment or scene in game where trevor ever threatens michaels family, instead actually protecting them despite how much they’ve changed michael. Should also be noted that yes trevor kills for giggles but even to the very end when he was laying in the pool of gas, he would rather die for michael than to defend himself
@tribbergrips1613
@tribbergrips1613 11 ай бұрын
There is no such thing as a "good" rat in the GTA universe. Period. Michael should have been killed in an unavoidable unskippable cutscene. Trevor forgave him because of the loyalty that Michael didn't feel. Trevor was loyal as hell to his crew/friends, and the betrayal of that loyalty is too far for me. If I wrote the story, Michael always dies when Trevor finds out the truth. Especially....because the truth is that the bullet that killed Brad was actually meant for Trevor. Brad walked in front of the shot because the plan was changing. Michael wanted Trevor to die and Brad get arrested. Michael is an evil character who betrayed his friends during a big score so he could get off scot free and care only about his own well being. And the worst part is....hes the character with the slo-mo super. So you cant kill him. Thanks Rockstar.
@ajjohnson3416
@ajjohnson3416 8 ай бұрын
Exactly my point at least someone sees Micheal for who he is, others sticking up for the snake because they like him as a character and most likely have snaked their own friends so they can understand Micheal.
@ordafles5360
@ordafles5360 3 ай бұрын
Bullet time shows how fast they can use the gun when under pressure adrenaline. Martin Madrazo and the Triads overpowered him.
@carscollection17carsgaming16
@carscollection17carsgaming16 6 ай бұрын
What if all with m and T what if breads survive
@johnbzn6508
@johnbzn6508 11 ай бұрын
OK so I never played GTA five myself but it’s a normal person in that situation. I kill Michael.
@miguelpasamano4995
@miguelpasamano4995 10 ай бұрын
GTA OnLine debunks endings a and b and confirm ending c.
@GhostysGameplay
@GhostysGameplay 11 ай бұрын
yoooo
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