Why Typing is Close to Everything - The Volcarona Theorem

[@mr.gamewatch6165]

Shedinja probably fits this theorem as its terrible typing is suppose to counter its godly ability Wonder Guard

[@playboikaniiii]

shedinja was also banned thanks to tera... to natdex ag after being a gimmick for years it's like an exaggerated version of volc's situation who went from a solid ou mon with a clear weakness to ubers (in this case, shedinja was a very flawed niche mon that became way too strong for ubers after tera)

[@jellomochas]

and because Terastallization got it banned from National Dex Ubers

[@geddyw]

In theory its typing isn't too bad, it would have 4 resistances (ground, grass, poison, and bug), along with 2 immunities (normal and fighting). Which is 6 good defensive traits compared to the 5 weaknesses. Ghost and bug also offer good coverage, since ghost is super effective against ghost (which would resist bug), while bug is super effective against dark (which would resist ghost). Only reason it can be seen as bad is just because every team will run one of the super effective types as a way to make sure they don't get walled by the one and only Shedinja.

[@fishyfishyfishy500akabs8]

@@geddywalso most teams naturally run at least one move that hits shedninja and shedninja doesn’t hit hard enough off the bat to threaten most stuff

[@SJrad]

Lmao finally a shedinja W. which typing does it tera into? water? Also what do tera shedinja teams do against mold breaker, entry hazards, sand, and burn/poison?

[@rubenduenas5881]

Volcarona is the right pokemon to use for this theorem. The inclusion of Heavy Duty Boots negating Stealth Rock Damage already made Volcarona a strong pokemon in Gen 8 OU. But with Terastalization? It's weaknesses changes completely and by the time you KO it by outspeeding it or with priority, you've already lost a lot of pokemon to a moth.

[@mothgang7603]

don't underestimate moths, the vast majority of us dont have mouth parts and we perish in 1-2 weeks

[@mailcs06]

Hollow Knight players can relate.

[@mailcs06]

@@mothgang7603 You have little to lose, and as such are far more dangerous.

[@Chibispore]

@@mothgang7603 Don't underestimate moths, we pollinate more plants than bees do and make up a huge part of biomass in an ecosystem (as food for other species but still!!)

[@shardmaw]

I consider it less to be about mons like volcorona and much more about tera, quickbanning volcorona wasn't the right choice, should have been a suspect.

[@albertgranell7335]

In the other hand we have Tyranitar, that decided that even with one of the worst type combinations (including a quad weak to fighting which is lethal) he would consistently be a top tier Pokémon

[@philiphockenbury6563]

Tyranitar: sand Godzilla.

[@chaoscasserole5990]

Tyranitar be like: *Today I will set TWENTY-SIX sandstorms*

[@Drby_]

You are so right. He just had so much raw power and god tier ability that it didn’t matter. Ttar. What a beast

[@fishyfishyfishy500akabs8]

T tars viability went crashing down to UU as gen 9 came along and the big elephant along with misc physical fighting, ground and water moves became spammed everywhere

[@yeet8036]

@byrdmaniac3949 garchomp is almost fell to uu lol

[@IloveHildasfeet]

Who thought making both Aggron and Bastiodon quad weak to two of the most common offensive typings was a good idea? Bulk doesn’t matter when you’re 4x weak to a close combat from a attack weighted mon

[@dynamic8192]

oH nO yOu ArE tHaT oNe DaNgErOuS gUy

[@Musasensei1674]

aggron has the most badass design but fuked in competitive

[@PerfectAzrael]

They really hate flying types or normal types. Both.

[@phucdisshiet6838]

The devs acknowledged this fact too because Mega Aggron is an extremely rare instance of a pokemon losing a typing. Dunno why they didn't just keep it that way for the regular one 😢

[@mesplin3]

Rock/Steel works well with a Flying type pivot. It's not as good as most steel types, but I don't think it is a bad type combination.

[@ExcalibeonSwordofEeveelutions]

Should do a Amoonguss vs Ferrothorn Theorem, discussing about what makes a pokemon good in singles or doubles and what tools are simply excellent!

[@Gold_Gamer_100]

The Amoongus theorem. It's got a good ring to it

[@DCBiscuit]

Galarian Weezing has to be there and Telepathy has to have its own entry.

[@mailcs06]

The Ferro-Moonguss Theorem!

[@skeetermania3202]

Considering they’re good in both formats, I’m not sure if this is the best comparison.

[@MrShadowThief]

@@skeetermania3202 Toxapex vs Incineroar (Toxaroar? Incinepex?) theorem.

[@bluebaron6811]

Now that we've basically done all aspects of what Pokémon themselves can do, it would be nice to see things like Weather, Terrain, Items, and Hazards be analyzed.

[@mysticmongrel1289]

The Pelipper Theorom, The Alola Theorom, The Marowak Theorom and the Rock Theorom

[@oscara1573]

I think they already covered hazards, unless they remake it

[@leonardomerlo8293]

The leftovers theorem, why ítems aré close to everything

[@RyanJW001]

@@mysticmongrel1289 It'd have to be distinct from the regigigas theorum. Pelipper simply falls under that where its ability makes it good. Hell, weather teams barely exist without abilities.

[@poppling60]

@@mysticmongrel1289 I think instead of rock theorem I think rosersde theorem(or a better hazard setter I forgot) would fit better maybe?????????????????

[@jjtjp2469]

Yeah, I'd figured Ice-Types were going to show up in this Theorem for sure. The typing that everyone loves to have access to for coverage, but would dread having the baggage that comes with being an Ice-Type, lmao

[@tedbrouwer2831]

At this point, the only purpose that the ice type serves, is to make water types better

[@Various1026]

Ice is good for coverage moves, but as a type it's really awful.

[@S7evieL001]

Ice types did get a massive buff in Gen 9 though. Because now they can Terastalize to not be ice types anymore. Best buff they could have given them tbh

[@theemeraldboars484]

Bit of a winter lover here, but Ice will always be my favorite type.

[@blazethegame]

@@theemeraldboars484 aesthetically, it's probably my 3rd favorite type. Only beaten out by Dragon and Ghost imo

[@thecod2345]

Its kind of depressing how stealth rocks did such massive damage to the viability of any Pokémon weak to them. Imagine the timeline where the stealth rocks never existed, competitive would look so different.

[@isnanesavant]

Volc would have been banned so fastin other generations omg I'd love it in a way

[@GoldStorm07]

I always thought SR damage should've been based on whether a Pokémon is airborne, not their type. That way Levitate pokes that dodge other entry hazards get targeted.

[@ExcalibeonSwordofEeveelutions]

*Imagine if there were Steel and Ice type variants of it...*

[@matteoschiro7710]

Sneaky Pebbles is a necessary evil in Singles to prevent Flying-type and switch spam.

[@lewispatton6550]

It wouldn't be so bad if it didn't count as rock damage. It's so sad

[@SovanJedi]

Kind of surprised Rock/Steel types weren't mentioned here, considering a bunch of highly defensive would-be-walls are almost entirely ruined because of it.

[@nicolasromani3523]

Aggron before it's mega came around: 💀

[@highadmiraljt5853]

@@nicolasromani3523 Aggron after mega’s were removed

[@dontmisunderstand6041]

Rock being the 2nd worst defensive typing matters a lot.

[@ShiningJudgment666]

@@dontmisunderstand6041 And the overlapping weaknesses to Ground and Fighting don't make up for Steel's great Defensive attributes.

[@theoverlord4060]

It's not just the typing. Mons like aggron and Bastiodon have no reliable recovery and also have crappy spdef

[@Fabiocean2000]

The one type combination with Normal that actually benefits from it is Ghost. Changing one of Ghost's 2 weaknesses, as well as Normal's single weakness into immunities is incredibly useful, only leaving a Dark weakness.

[@toyecatm2558]

Hisuian Zoroark enters the chat

[@HazeEmry]

​@@toyecatm2558why is there a Goodra here?

[@toyecatm2558]

@@HazeEmry what do you mean "a Goodra here"

[@HazeEmry]

@@toyecatm2558 oh damn, it's actually a Zoroark. Fuckin Illusion

[@toyecatm2558]

@@HazeEmry Welp, GG on that one 😂

[@Goldenblade14]

I'm genuinely curious how drastically the meta-game would change if Stealth Rock was just reverted to another Spikes clone that just also affects flying/levitating pokemon. That being, that the type advantages/resistances are removed in favor of a flat 12.5% damage upon switch-in.

[@aekaralagonisi]

Rock types absorbing stealth rocks upon switching in would have made so many underwhelming rock types in gen 4-5 viable, such as Aggron.

[@TaLeng2023]

​@@aekaralagonisiI support this. Sending out a Rock type to knock away SR sounds pretty nice. Maybe while at it, when SR is knocked off it deals Rock damage to the side that set it up.

[@EmperorATsamaku]

You forgot to mention Scrappy. That ability gave Mega Lopunny STAB coverage.

[@Robin_hsr12]

Yeah but this video aged. Poorly. Volcarona being in ubers and all

[@deadinside8004]

​@@Robin_hsr12pretty sure volcarona is a very specific case

[@clarafindley6689]

I love these videos they act as a gate way for someone to understand and get into competitive Pokémon through stuff like pokemon showdown

[@dragneel3458]

It would be pretty interesting if we got a general overview video that discussed all of the OU metagames over the generations, which Pokemon were top tier and which fell off. It might be a long project but it definitely would be cool.

[@Imitationist]

Does this include new abilities in future generations such as ADV clef vs DPP Clef?

[@fungmanhei]

They already did a video on being outclassed.

[@enyellake9025]

I would love to see a "Why Held Items are Close to Everything".

[@dontmisunderstand6041]

They're not. Held Items are *something* but far from everything, though not really nothing either.

[@misfit-hu1xk]

Held items aren't close to everything tbh 😥 like the comment above said, they aren't nothing either. But they are nowhere as close to important as the theorems mentioned on this channel

[@Fr0stySn00ze]

The ADV/DPP Tyranitar Theorum

[@N_IRL]

Maybe "Why Held Items CAN Be Everything (but usually aren't)" Focus Sash comes to mind

[@playlover9680]

Xerneas without power herb is 10x times weaker

[@cynical_perks8725]

Ice resisting only itself but sharing the same number of weaknesses as grass still makes me sad.

[@natnew32]

Ice has 4 weaknesses (Fire, Fighting, Steel, Rock), Grass has 5 (Fire, Ice, Flying, Bug, Poison)

[@ShiningJudgment666]

@@natnew32 Ice also only has one resistance. Grass has a few. Electric, Water, itself, Ground. All pretty good ones to be fair.

[@Leangreen69]

Grass is also resisted by 7 types while ice is resisted by 4.

[@Raziel_HHL]

I would have liked a seperate section about the Tera mechanic, as there are a lot of Pokemon that become really really good by being able to change their typing like Regieleki or the mentioned Volcarona, both in VGC and OU

[@brunop.8745]

Sometimes they become *too* good, in fact

[@vyor8837]

​@@brunop.8745always you mean.

[@TheMaplestSyrup]

These two Pokémon were already good I think a better comparison would be galarian articuno

[@dontmisunderstand6041]

@@vyor8837 Ah yes, Metapod becomes too good with Terastallization. For sure.

[@vyor8837]

@@dontmisunderstand6041 you know exactly what I meant.

[@joshuad1925]

I see volcarona, I click. This simple premise has allowed Volcarona fans to live on for generations Praise be to Volcarona!

[@delgande]

Volcarona is when gamefreak stopped making trash bugs that are a joke(except Heracross and Scizor I guess

[@imagination1720]

Why evolution isn't everything - the porygon2 theorem

[@jayjones4175]

More like the evolite theorem

[@annabelwessel7545]

There is one exception for normal being a good addition: with ghost, lile hisuin zoroak. There normal is actually adding benefits in everyway, because it gives an immunity to a previously super effective type to it and a stab and the weakness it brings with it, the ghost typing was already immune to it. So there is an exception

[@roidadadou5456]

It's also this typing which made it such a great Defensive member, in teams' synergies! Especially since Fairy was introduced.

[@Earthboundmike]

How does Golem not get brought up? Those two quad weaknesses are brutal.

[@clayblondin4356]

Golem is very good in gens 1 & 2

[@dse763]

Rock/Ground may be an awful defensive type but good luck trying to defend against the Earthquake/Stone Edge combo !

[@solarstorm5242]

@@clayblondin4356Golem is a worse Rhydon in gen 1. Sure, it’s alright in the lower tiers, but it’s not good, otherwise it would be better singular bubble sucks, yes. Papercuts are not as much of an issue though. And the normal resistance is actually good in gen 1.

[@Fr0stySn00ze]

Golem also has sturdy and access to Stealth Rock + Explosion with the EdgeQuake combo.

[@Fr0stySn00ze]

@@solarstorm5242 It's just no longer OU in RBY due to it directly competing with Rhydon and falling off after the discovery that normal types can't be para'd by Body Slam, meaning you want something with more bulk & longevity to deal with late-game Zapdos as opposed to something that just explodes on Body Slam Lax and is gone early. If Rhydon didn't exist though, Golem would be solidly OU because of its typing. It was actually more preferred over Rhydon pre-discovery due to being faster and having the second strongest self-KO move after Lax's Self Destruct. The only reason it's not UU is due to the excess of Water types. If you want to use it over Rhydon in OU, you'll likely still be fine just minus the substitutes in favour of blowing up. There's even an OU set still listed for it on Smogon. So yeah, Rhydon's overall better but Golem is by no means bad at all in RBY. It's just in an awkward tiering position. In gen 2 it's the opposite after people remembered that Golem had EQ + NYC PokeCenter Rapid Spin meaning it could stop Gengar from spinblocking it, while also packing Explosion. Rhydon is basically non-existent in that tier now despite still being listed as OU. It's essentially BL now.

[@DJSpocktimus]

Thought of the Tyranitar theorem for this one, but I like Volcarona better. Good choice 👌

[@Hyperneosonic97]

I'd argue TTar is good _in spite of_ its typing, not _because of_ its typing. Rock/Dark is horrendous defensively, having seven weaknesses, four of which are to common types, and one of THOSE being a crippling quadruple weakness to Fighting.

[@fokspoks]

ttar is the best user of this typing. its ability boosts its sp. def thanks to rock type and its stab pursuit was scary to deal with. But yeah, defensively it's sucks. But Ttar is a threat still

[@breadeater1194]

Not quite cuz Volcarona is a good offensive, bad defensive typing, that became broken because of Tera. Tyranitar's typing, meanwhile, is riddled with weaknesses, and it's one of the best Pokemon ever made in spite of that (though I do think Rock/Dark is a solid offensive typing that helps define Tar's role). And it's the worst it has ever been in gen 9.

[@skeetermania3202]

@@breadeater1194Rock/Dark also has its uses defensively. About as many resistances as weaknesses, and the Rock typing boosts Ttar’s Sp Def in Sandstorm.

[@matthewkuscienko4616]

@skeetermania3202 While that is true, Tyranitar's typing still holds it back significantly defensively because of not just how many weaknesses it has because of it's rock/dark type combination, but because several of those types are ones that are bad to be weak to. It's type combination doesn't really do much to make it any better defensively, as outside of fire, flying and a psychic immunity, it's honestly more effectively defensively because of it's combination of being quite bulky while also getting it's special defense boosted by sandstorm

[@CammyMeeleTea]

I could not be happier that this video came out. Sincerely, big thank you to the FSG team.

[@TORVEX_]

Why items are close to everything. The choice theorem. You’re the greatest KZbin channel ever

[@dawniebunsvods6567]

Hazards are close to everything - The Ribombee Theorem Ever since they have been introduced they kinda have shaken the meta game to the point where Pokémon have been carried by hazards, like Ribombee sticky web. This is not the only one, as glimmora is able to put out so many hazards the meta had to adapt to it. It also increased the usage Defog and Rapid spin mons, and hazards are so prevalent that in every team from gens 5-Up, you are always at least reccomend one Defog/Rapid spin mon. Even Pokémon like Gholdengo contribute, because it gets rid of both Defog and Rapid spin.

[@mangosteak]

Ribombe is ass even with webs. Cause webs are ass 9/10 times. They are dead weight against just about everything that is not an offense team

[@doomgirl5341]

It's crazy how hazards are becoming a thing in VGC thanks to glimmora and mons like kleavor and samurott, not as oppressive as in singles, but the cheap damage is always welcome

[@throastpopoki1682]

surprised fairy steel wasn't mentioned as the strongest type combo. Great video keep up the good work!

[@tdarkhorse4]

so fun fact about volcarona: all 3 of its forms have a double weakness, but those double weaknesses form a pseudo type trio of their own. the regular one's double weak to rock, iron moth is double weak to ground, and slither wing is double weak to flying. not quite the rock paper scissors of fire/water/grass, but rock/ground/flying can be seen as sort of a trio themselves.

[@PhoenixShadow13]

I think we need a good Gerenation gimmick video, talking about the Gems from 5, megas from 6, etc. And how it helped or hurt some mons

[@andyblargextra]

It's a bittersweet thing seeing a Theorem based on my favorite pokemon. Especially coming after a Theorem based off my favorite Eeveelution.

[@lizzerd5112]

6:48 you know bkc is writing the script when gen 3 snorlax gets dunked on

[@Goldy12378]

Maybe an item theorem? Lotta stuff you could talk about there. Leftys and Boots reliance, how some items enable abilities (Guts, Posion Heal), etc

[@Zeo--]

Leftovers theorem I assume.

[@onebear6504]

I think it'll be helpful to make a separate playlist for the why XYZ is important videos imo, it's my favorite of your videos as of recently! XD Items would probably come next, but I wonder if after this there'll be ones of mechanics like Megas, Dynamax, Z- moves, Teras lol... Maybe even why physical attackers are preferred over special attackers oftentimes (that is until this gen got so much busted special attackers) Update: Thanks for making the playlist!

[@ryanmeek6284]

Honestly the smoothing of the extremes that doubles provides is one of the reasons it’s my preferred game mode to singles (speaking of course of the reliance on rocks)

[@Mac_Spector]

"Why Entry Hazards... Might be Everything - The Ferrothorn Theorem" "Why HP Might NOT be Everything - The Blissey Theorem" "Why Balance Might NOT be Everything - The Glalie Theorem" idk I'm just throwing out random ideas

[@rainpooper7088]

Blissey is actually pretty good though. Sure, it folds instantly on the physical side, but send it out against a special attacker and it's gonna be extremely annoying. And Pokémon that have an even stat spread are generally seen as bad unless it's something like Mew, though it might be interesting to look at all those mythicals in comparison.

[@ShiningJudgment666]

@@rainpooper7088 Blissey is surprisingly durable on the physical side because of its HP but only if you max out its Defense otherwise it becomes paper to any physical move. It comes in handy in stall wars mainly but it can help sometimes. On the special side, it was hard to break. Only stuff like Choice Specs Kyogre with a max power Water Spout under rain, strong special Fighting moves from the likes of Mewtwo packing Focus Blast instead of Aura Sphere (which it typically didn't due to Aura Sphere's superior reliability) and STAB Fighting moves from Infernape or Blaziken in the form of Focus Blast or Lucario (Specs Aura Sphere could get past Blissey that didn't invest in Special Defense but if she does, it misses the 2HKO and special variants of Lucario became rarer later on so it could instead opt to go for the one-shot with Close Combat). Mythicals like Mew are carried by their typing, movepools or both in the case of Jirachi. Mew fell victim to its vast movepool no longer being enough to compensate for its stats no longer being enough as well as its pure Psychic typing.

[@erinprice7522]

Didn’t think I’d see a theorem video mainly about my favorite Pokémon.

[@imtheonewhoaskedlol]

I kind of wanna see a video on the traits that are good for singles/doubles. Hearing how pokemon like gyarados and arcanine are used as support pokemon in VGC when in singles, they house offensive roles boggles me. Seems like a cool idea. Edit: I have a name now: The Incinaroar Theorem. Is this good?

[@i_like_chomp6382]

Actually Arcananine is usually always used as a defensive pivot in singles, but a breakdown between what makes a mon good in singles as oppossed to doubles would be very cool

[@14g0t7]

The weezing theorem

[@imtheonewhoaskedlol]

@@14g0t7 Incinaroar theorem?

[@THENOCK1366]

Eviolite Theorem- where a single item can change a Pokémon’s viability

[@isnanesavant]

Amoongus Theorem: the radical differences a pokemon can take on depending on format, would be an amazing video for you guys i think Amoongus, Maushold, Dondozo, Volcarona, Groudon, and so many more pokemon take on drastically different stat spreads, moves , or abilities depending on VGC or Smogon singles or 6v6 doubles

[@JoeVO24]

These videos are always informative, retrospective, and fascinating, im glad the theorems have become a recurring show on the channel, and would love to see more if you can

[@maneruloquendero]

I have an idea for a video: "Why options are close to everything - The Pachirisu Theorem". Sejun Park won a tourney with a Pachirisu and used it because Pachirisu was the only mon that could do everything Park needed it to do

[@slipperynodd578]

“Won a tourney” lmao, little bit of an understatement.

[@mailcs06]

Not just *A* tourney, *THE* Tourney!

[@matthewkuscienko4616]

To my understanding, it wasn't just that Pachirisu had good options that helped him win with it in 2014, but I feel like just as big of a reason for it's success was it's surprise factor: nobody else in the tournament (I don't think anyone else used it, anyways) was using it on their team, so not only did people not know how to best counter it, but they also probably underestimated it because Pachirisu isn't known for being a good Pokemon otherwise. It's also worth noting that the options it did make use of wouldn't have been nearly as useful if not for it's team being built to take advantage of what it could do, as it was to my understanding an anti-meta pick that Sejun Park used specifically because of these traits

[@clingfray3]

I like how Rock and Bug are so unused people call them Stealth Rock and U-Turn

[@Significantharrassment]

Funny that it's due to terrastelization that Volcarona was banned to Ubers, a part in me still think that it is a broken mechanic but oh well...

[@N12015]

I'm sure it was a tournament running during the time, and they did not wanted that thing despite people not really wanting a ban of the moth. Smogon can be tyrants at times.

[@Significantharrassment]

@@N12015 to be fair I've had enough of competitive pokemon as a whole, Smogon not making sense at all and Gamefreak having grasshopper level of brain cells when it comes to balancing there games lmao, I even started day dreaming a new path called "The Institute of Balance" having Kyurem and Zygard in the logo and start balancing the game myself lmao...

[@usuallyangry]

It frustrates me to no end. "No, we're NOT going to give Ice types more resistances and boost Luxray's BST, that would break the meta" was in the same breath as "Hey, wouldn't it be fun if we made a gimmick that could change a Pokémon's type while also boosting any move that is of the type it was changed to?"

[@Significantharrassment]

@@usuallyangry like it's not that hard to take off some weaknesses, why is ice type weak against fighting? I never saw a fighter actually break a fkin iceberg??? Why is rock type super effective against ice? If something is heavy enough of course it will break it lmao... why dosen't ice type resist water since it literally FREEZES IT WHY DOSEN'T ICE TYPE RESIST DRAGON SINCE DRAGONS CAN'T RESIST COLD TEMPERATURES WTF GAMEFREAK??? If we go by logic only Steel type and Fire type should be super effective against ice type since both this two types resist ice and are commonly used to deal with it

[@dontmisunderstand6041]

Terastallization would ironically be LESS broken if it wasn't so restricted as it is. If each pokemon could terastallize once per battle, and into ANY type instead of one set type, it would massively reduce the power of terastallization in general. It would also be a lot more fun and skill-intensive to use that way.

[@multiagustin2]

Amazing video as always. I think a video explaining the viability of types would be interesting. For example, how changes like poison mons absorbing poison spikes, or steel having no good offensive moves made the type they belonged better or worse. It would be a mix of theorem and how good was X type actually. It could be 1 video, certain groups or just 1 for all.

[@KINGBADASS100]

The best way to boost the Ice type is to just have it resist all the types that it’s super effective against, as well as water.

[@robertsiudak8507]

I probably said it before but your voice is honestly one of the most relaxing sounds to me. Combined with the background music those videos are my favourite way of just zoning out and resting.

[@Zeo--]

I said Arctozolt is going to rise up to OU at one point in G8 because of its electric ice offensive typing and it did.

[@Syogren]

Excellent video as always. Maybe there could be a video about a Pokemon's popularity stopping it from dropping a tier and not allowing it to shine? Like the Ambipom Theorem or something.

[@ManyTanks1]

The Ttar theorem kek. Iirc in gen 8 despite not being all that good, ttar was used enough that it never fully dropped to UU. And when it did drop people used it so much that by the next tier shift it rose back to OU.

[@specs.weedle]

can we please get How BRAVE was Talonflame ACTUALLY? we've wanted it for months, and also I think such a video should shed some light on its pre-evolutions' performance in tiers they were viable in

[@skimbeeble8115]

almost as if it was a Brave Bird

[@crarlo]

almost as if that was the pun

[@lulu82o]

Haven't watched the video yet but despite volcarona having proved itself op without its natural typing with tera, I think that a better exemple of a Pokemon held back by its typing is articuno. This pokemon had SUPERB bulk, good speed for such a bulky pokemon. In gen8, it had defog, roost, heal bell, u-turn, freeze-dry, hurricane, whirlwind and the ability pressure

[@dontmisunderstand6041]

Every Ice type would be a better pokemon if it wasn't Ice type. That's not even an opinion, that's just a fact about the type chart. Using an Ice type as the mascot doesn't explain the idea clearly enough.

[@lulu82o]

@@dontmisunderstand6041 some rare exceptions (like mamoswine with its arguably best offensive combo in the game and gen8 weavile) actually benefited from their ice type but it's always offensively Also yes ice-ground is very arguably better than ghost-fighting because it's super effective on over HALF the whole pokedex and only resisted by bug-water, bug-ice, and levitate+ice resist. In the higher tiers, only rotom-wash constitutes a check to the ground-ice combo, while zoroark-hisui does the same for ghost-fighting, except that ghost-fighting has a lesser super effective coverage. Look at how crushing kyurem was in gen8 with freeze dry+earth power.

[@ShiningJudgment666]

Superb bulk because of its Legendary base stat total. While it has good moves in its movepool, it's somewhat predictable too because there isn't anything else it can really do. Also Toxic prior to the move's distribution being nerfed.

[@skeetermania3202]

@@dontmisunderstand6041Eh, that’s debatable. Losing Ice STAB would be pretty bad for someone like Weavile or Mamoswine.

[@dontmisunderstand6041]

@@skeetermania3202 Losing the weakness to steel, fighting, AND fire would help mamoswine a lot too. It's not just that ice has a lot more weaknesses than resistances, it's that its weaknesses are some of the most common and strong offensive type attacks. Weavile would suffer a lot though, as while Mamoswine is relatively bulky stat-wise, Weavile is fragile.

[@nyasputinya]

How about a list of Pokemon who have gotten the biggest indirect buff from the gen 4 physical/special split? Pokemon such as Gengar and Azumarill!

[@indiradevi8136]

Gengar was better pre gen 4 weirdly enough

[@tedbrouwer2831]

Are there also some losers of the physical/special split? Maybe some special attackers that had access to the elementel punches?

[@ShiningJudgment666]

@@tedbrouwer2831 Alakazam. It lost the elemental punches coming off its Special attack and in exchange got Special Shadow Ball and Focus Blast. Strong and good moves yes, but not enough to make up for the lost Super effective coverage of those moves. Sure, it could do a sort of worse pseudo Bolt Beam thing with Shock Wave and Hidden Power Ice but that just seems so crap. Gengar losing Ice Punch and Fire Punch hurts it. ThunderPunch doesn't matter because it has Thunderbolt. Getting Special STAB Shadow Ball was nice though. Sludge Bomb was meh until Fairy types due to bad type coverage.

[@harryf9885]

7:16 normal/psychic is a good type and normal/ghost is a broken type because in both these cases the ghost immunity eliminates a weakness and the fighting weakness either makes the Pokémon neutral to fighting or doesn’t matter because it is already immune to it. But definitely if the type doesn’t have a fighting resistance/immunity and ghost weakness combining it with normal generally makes it worse, unless it comes with normal types typically blessed move-pool but that doesn’t really count as a feature of the type.

[@ES-dp6tw]

If you could change or add to an existing Pokemon's type, who would you choose? ie - Vanillite line -> Ice/Fairy Spearow line -> Ground/Flying

[@ZorotheGallade]

I would add the Grass type to Flabèbè's line.

[@popsy1100]

luxray and the dark type

[@jaretco6423]

.The Woobat line. Change from Psychic to Fairy/Flying. . Haxorus. Add Steel to it's secondary type. . Beartic. Ice/Fighting . Simisage. Grass/Dark . Simisear. Fire/Fairy . Simipour. Water/Psychic . Druddigon. Add Rock to it's secondary type. . The Gothetelle line. Change Psychic to Fairy. . Crynogonal. Add Psychic to it's secondary type. . Vesperquin. Change it's secondary type from Flying to Fairy. . Electivire. Add Fighting to it's secondary type. . Magmortor. Add Ground to it's secondary type. . Sunflora. Add Fire to it's secondary type. . Beautifly. Change it's secondary type from Flying to Fairy. . Castform. Add Ground when there's an sandstorm and fix the stats too. . Conkeldurr. Add Ghost type to it's secondary type. That's all I got for now.

[@Mepphy99]

Gen 9 finally got over the Volcarona theorem

[@Shadrio]

I'd think a video about how hype for a new pokemon affects its viability would be a good watch, and I'd call it something like The Electivire Theorem.

[@memenatsuki2577]

When was electivire hyped up?

[@wcv6009]

Gen IV. Its awful, but was hyped so much it stayed OU through the entire generation, and is trash in the tier.

[@D461Sage]

They already have that

[@skeetermania3202]

@@wcv6009 Your onion, m8.

[@JosephRiveraSantiago0617]

That nightmare was one of my brother's biggest nightmares ever since Stealth Rock has been created in Generation IV.

[@thksai1684]

I would like to see a theory of archetypes. Kinda like how ferrothorn is an amazing defensive pokemon, but is not great on stall for lack of recovery and other reasons

[@Steph_N]

Why creative marketing is everything - The Iron Mugulis theorem.

[@ImJustBag]

Hoping "Why Weather is NO LONGER Everything" is in the works after permanent weather was removed and dramatically changed the meta.

[@thebigbean8783]

These have been fun. No suprise that typing is good, though lol

[@misfit-hu1xk]

I just gotta say-- I love the script writing in these videos

[@lewispatton6550]

Honestly, I feel like they should just rebalance the type matchups at some point, a system multiple decades old is bound to have problems.

[@breadeater1194]

The system is less than a decade old. X and Y came out October 2013.

[@the_dragon_king_5374]

@@breadeater1194this gotta be bait

[@lewispatton6550]

@@breadeater1194 pokemon came out in 1996... Might wanna check your math buddy. If you mean the introduction of fairy types, and the 1 or 2 tweaks to some resistances... That's not a rebalance. It's a tweak. Just about every other type has remained unchanged, and several of them are suffering because of it

[@LNRspeaks]

The only thing I'd say is give Ice resistances and lower the types that resist Bug from 7 to 3 Ghost and Normal might also need a rework, but everything else works fine

[@nicolasromani3523]

​@@LNRspeaksThis right here, ice is in desperate need of being capable of resisting SOMETHING, like water, flying, poison or even normal since most people are not able to shatter a chunk of ice with a single punch.

[@mailcs06]

I kind of want to suggest "Why Coverage Can Be Everything - The Regieleki Theorem", because of the massive, instantaneous jump Regieleki took from UU to Ubers with the addition of Ice Tera Blast to it's movepool, but that kind of falls under a subcategory of the Flareon Theorem. Maybe next could be something like "Why Items Can Be Everything - The Leftovers (or Knock-Off) Theorem" I think it could make sense to name it after a really good item, Rather than naming it after a specific Pokemon that heavily relies on an item, since most of the great items are used to great effect by many pokemon. Alternatively, Naming it after Knock-Off makes sense, as it is one of the best moves in the game precisely *BECAUSE* of the fact items can be everything. The theorem could cover pokemon that are particularly helped by their items, the items themselves, and various moves that are useful because of how they interact with items

[@mysticpumpkin8520]

Tbh this could had been called the Terapagos theorem, but it came too late😅 I suppose the next is why items are almost everything: the Arceus Theorem

[@ManyTanks1]

That second one would prolly be the heavy duty boots theorem cause honestly that one item has done enough to offset the damage SR has brought upon the singles landscape to where even mons resistant to rocks like Great Tusk use them to aid in pivoting in and out. As well as being able to talk about how the addition of life orb and specs were the onset of some crazy powercreep as their damage boosts are relevant to damage calcs

[@Yzerbruh]

Hisuian Zoroark should've been included in the Normal type segment as an outlier; with its secondary Ghost typing the Normal typing is beneficial for adding an immunity.

[@BleKz]

Next one should be "Why meta means a lot" and talk about pokémon that were good and without changes became irrelevant due to other picks being popular or the other way around.

[@thatonefool0215]

The Tauros Theorem

[@bluebaron6811]

The Gastrodon theorum

[@SJrad]

I remember quagsire being an example of this. it rises to OU when it is needed and then falls down to like nu when meta changes unfavorably

[@GenerusCrow]

The Forretress Theorem

[@mandalorianhunter1]

The artwork on these thumbnails are sublime

[@indecisivecollector438]

I wonder how unique and fun competitive teams could be if stealth rock was banned or didn't exist?

[@enoyna1001]

There would be nothing unique. Imagine Gen 8 where HDB were introduced and give those HDB users another item. Defensive Moltres, more Charizard usage(?), Volcarona probably banned. But it wouldn't make Bug types viable, they're still bad with some exceptions. And we would again be in Gen 3 where Flying types don't take any hazard damage.

[@skeetermania3202]

@@enoyna1001Your opinion, m8.

[@enoyna1001]

@@skeetermania3202 Obviously. Even veteran players can't predict how the metagame will change with banning a single mon. Everyone who says they can is just speculating at this point.

[@dersteve4240]

Next week: Why generations and metagame are close to everything - The Tauros Theorem

[@isnanesavant]

Volc is so perfect for this cus wow tera sent him over the edge by simply having his type become a random dice roll while keeping great stab

[@isnanesavant]

Tera video retrospective in the future better be called something like "looking back on terastalization, the Goob phenomenon"

[@LucaYasha]

So happy to see this, like to believe you saw my comment suggesting this idea or if you had this idea for awhile. Either way good work as always :) 👍

[@Senshidayo]

Orthworm is an example of a Gen 9 mon that greatly benefits from a new type immunity, getting stronger and taking no damage from ground. Baxcalibur should have gotten Fire immunity not just burn immunity and damage boosts from its new ability too imo.

[@iantaakalla8180]

Honestly, it’s an Ice Pokémon. The fact that it has properties that will not yet neuter it to hell next generation is a miracle in of itself.

[@itgetsdajobdone]

Whoever made the thumbnails for this series deserves a raise

[@Veecy]

I can tell I must not be in the minority here, based on the rate of these new videos coming out, but I'm really enjoying this content a lot more consistently than the competitive Pokémon history videos. While there are still a few more Pokémon whose history I would like to see an in-depth analysis of (including a few good remake candidates), it's a lot easier to engage with this kind of content compared to that surrounding more niche Pokémon.

[@Veecy]

I'd also like to put the few Pokemon I would still like to see a video for out on the table: - Latios - Rotom (especially Wash) - Sneasel/Weavile remake (would be interesting since the original was pre-Gen 8) - Tyranitar remake - Zapdos remake - Gengar remake

[@camillalapolentona84480]

As a fellow trans Pokémon enjoyer i must ask your opinion on the fall of Lando

[@Veecy]

​@@camillalapolentona84480 Very sad, I am a big Lando enjoyer. However, it's good to see a new Ground type, Great Tusk, taking over its place at the top of OU this generation. As a Gen 7 DOU main, I've taken some interest in National Dex Doubles since it started, and it's really confusing and frankly disturbing to see Landorus being ranked not top 5, but around 20th on the VR. I see Landorus as somewhat of a glue that holds many metagames together, which I strongly believe would be much worse off without it. How about yourself?

[@camillalapolentona84480]

@@Veecy I agree with most of what you said, buti am a bit happy about its fall. The Lando Kingdom lasted for too long, It was about time that Tusk arose.

[@the_godbodor7026]

Now this is a good finale video as basically every previous one in the series has its outcomes determined by your typing. The only one that would be exempt from this for the most part would be the speed video, but even still you could argue speed still gets heavily affected by typing.

[@mcdonnell-douglasdc-1056]

One way to change Stealth Rocks is to set its damage to 12.5% for all types, basically a version of Spikes that can only be set up once, but can hit Flying types and Levitate users.

[@pickcollins9910]

At this point there’s plenty of counterplay for hazards. Defog, rapid spin, there’s an ice version of RS, heavy duty boots, magic bounce, etc. Nerfing hazards isn’t really necessary. If you are being pulled down by hazards, that’s bc you misused or didn’t bring a hazard remover

[@luke0980]

That would make it too OP. Cause resistances against rock would also still take the same amount of damage. It would also make Heavy-duty boots almost entirely useless. It would only work for mons with multiscale or mons that get effected too much by poison spikes.

[@mcdonnell-douglasdc-1056]

With how every gen releases more Pokemon that are more absurd than last gen, Stealth Rock's reworking wouldn't make such a difference. Besides, it still does what entry hazards are supposed to do: punish switches and push something into K.O. range. So no, reworking Stealth Rock wouldn't be such a bad idea.

[@mcdonnell-douglasdc-1056]

@@pickcollins9910 I don't think Stealth Rock would be nerfed, just reworked. Sure it wouldn't deal super effective damage against Flying, Fire and Ice types, but Fighting, Steel and Ground would not be resistant to it. Everyone takes a flat 12.5%, regardless of typing.

[@nicolasromani3523]

Galarian Darmanitan is a perfect example of a mon being good despite it's typing. A lot of people referred to it saying that an ice type can be good, but G-Darmanitan isn't good because of it's typing, it's great because of good offemsive stats and a broken ability. And i'm pretty sure that if it wasn't a pure ice type it'd be outright broken.

[@iantaakalla8180]

I love how at this point Ice typing is a downright nerf in of itself save Gen 1 and that is more like “we accidentally forgot to make Pokémon that counter Ice types good”. Ice is so bad you practically need a generation where all its weaknesses are nonexistent to be useful. That or you have to be an excellent Pokémon.

[@pikagammerpluspizza7478]

I wonder why a Ice version of Stealth Rock was never made

[@codynelson7575]

Sneaky Shards

[@DarthFhenix55]

You could've talk about Swamper, his amazing typing made him the most iconic Mon of advance OU. Rock resistance, inmune to sand, stab earthquake and surf, just weak to grass, all of those were amazing traits back in the day.

[@sirmoony5633]

I actually do like Volacrona! It's very cool since it's a Psuedo-Legendary Bug Type and it's very cool how in Gen 5, Game Freak finally made Bug Types very useful!

[@Handlingthesenuts.]

It is unfortunately not a pseudo legendary. Should be though

[@nicolasromani3523]

Volcarona looks so regal people actually don't realize it's a "normal" Pokémon, can't blame 'em though, it's power doesn't feel normal.

[@sirmoony5633]

@@Handlingthesenuts. I know that! I still feel like it is because despite only having 550 base stat total, it's still an excellent Pokemon.

[@sirmoony5633]

@@nicolasromani3523 Yup! Having a base 135 Special Attack stat, 105 Special Defense Stat and a 100 Speed Stat has something to say about that!

[@jaretco6423]

I think if they would've added an middle form from Larvesta and later evolves into Volcarona, than it would've been an Psudeo-Legendary. How cool would it be to have an Bug type Psudeo-Legendary?

[@Alg3br4]

11:12 "[Steel type] elevates everything that has it." *sad Bastiodon noises*

[@timmyreobed5043]

No mention of Ghost? It's been a solid typing since gen 1 with it's Normal immunity, and even with Normal falling off, it's Fighting immunity once that type popped off and amazing offensive value has made the typing withstand the test of time.

[@connivingkhajiit]

ghost offensively is a menace

[@Hyperneosonic97]

The big issue with Ghost is that the Fighting resist is basically all the defensive utility it brings to the table- the only other types it resists are Bug and Poison, neither of which are great offensively.

[@IschmarVI]

@@Hyperneosonic97 coughrapidspinimmunitycough

[@Hyperneosonic97]

@@IschmarVI That's... not really _defensive_ utility? A Rapid Spin immunity is an offensive utility, by virtue of keeping Stealth Rocks off the field.

[@NoPulseGames]

Why doubles can be everything: the Amoonguss theorem Based off of Amoonguss being viable on practically every team composition in doubles due to Rage Powder, Spore, and, in later generations, Pollen Puff, but really only niche on one or two team styles (like stall) in singles. Other examples could be Ferrothorn (adverse of Amoonguss), Arcanine (intimidate, snarl), Venusaur (chlorophyll, sleep powder), and Prankster users (Klefki, Grimmsnarl, Murkrow, Tornadus and Sableye)

[@Missiletainn]

In a lot of fairy tales, the fae folk are weakened or poisoned by mundane everyday things, this is why I think Normal should resist fairy and be super effective against fairy. Normal not being super effective against anything right now is weak gimmick which just makes the typing boring, and normal shouldn't be boring, it should be at least average.

[@bigchungus7870]

The BKC theorem:Why having a niche in gen 4 ubers is everything

[@deltalord6969]

"When generational gimmicks break pokemon" - the regieleki theorem

[@danhatter6823]

Next up: Why Evolution Might Not Be Everything: The Scyther Theorem

[@PapaCriv]

Why Nature is Important - The Pachirisu Theorem. (A reference to the 2014 VGC World Championships)

[@mintyerb]

the next vid: why everything is everything - the thing theorem

[@n7x]

The fact that terrastalisation banned volcarona into Ubers shows how much typing matters. It also did the same thing to regieleki, but that’s mainly because of ice Tera blast.

[@kronnzolotenn421]

Kinda surprised Fairy/Steel wasn't mentioned given the astronomical number of resistances it has

[@michaelserwetnyk1607]

PLA was a great reminder of just how OP the ground type is. Throwing my Torterra into a pack of Luxray was a super easy way to level up weaker Pokémon since they were WAY more likely to go for thunder wave/thunder fang/wild charge as opposed to crunch which would have actually done damage to me.

[@matigamer329]

Now do a why balanced stats isn't everything - The Silvally Theorem.

[@IschmarVI]

... unless they are high enough - the Arceus Theorem.

[@gio9255]

Great video but I was hoping you’d cover how massively buffed Ghost types were as offensive mons. Gengar gained perfect coverage in Gen VI with just shadow ball and focus blast alone. Offensive ghosts are so powerful, your team was required to carry a ghost resist such as T-tar, Bisharp, or Mandibuzz in order to deal with them. While these days it’s easy to slap a bulky dark type on your team, Tyranitar’s and Bisharp’s pursuit were crucial to prevent ghosts from breaking the meta pre-SwSh.

[@chrischin_94]

After all these years I still love your videos

[@theboostedbaboon4586]

I liked this video, although I wish it extended to talk about how good all of the types are. It felt like it covered a good chunk of them but missed talking about grass, electric, water, dark, and ghost. I also think it could have delved just a bit deeper into some of the types. I found the analysis of fire, poison, dragon, normal, steel, ground, flying, and ice to be really good and hope there is another video talking about the other half of the types with the same depth. Very high quality production as is.

[@Silver-Arm]

We're running out of theorems, I'm gonna miss this series

[@NANIKANSEIDORIFTO]

These theorem videos are always a must watch. Great stuff

[@Kubosarutobi]

Will always be the Tyranitar Therom to me. T-tar bad typing but manages to be one the best pokemon consistently especially in gen 3 and 5

[@matthewdavis3421]

Proposal: Make Psychic, Dragon, and Fairy do half damage to Normal. These things are not real things in the real world (as far as we know), so a basic resistance is justified. This would give Normal types a bit more value defensively while not improving their offensive threat. Even in fiction, Ghost is non-corporeal, so it's remaining as an immunity doesn't break any logic. Second proposal: Similar to how toxic spikes can be absorbed by Poison types on the ground, let's give Ice a hazard interaction. Make Ice immune to stealth rocks and give Ice types specifically a damage boost (specific value subjected to balancing) to their first Ice type move and it removes rocks from your field. The idea is rocks in snowballs. The Ice type immunity to rock hazard is because they need a little extra help as a type, and the rocks in snowballs incentivizes staying in at least a turn to use an Ice move. That way it doesn't totally screw over the one setting rocks since they can switch in to something strong against Ice and claim opponent was jebaited. The rocks in snowballs thing would be specific to Ice types because I don't want to just boost something with Ice attack coverage but instead the Ice types themselves. Also, need the Ice typing to justify the snow that wouldn't exist otherwise. That's the logic. In implementation, the Ice type switching in would "chill the rocks" so they don't damage that turn and then the rocks get "used" by the Ice attack to boost its damage. I think these would be good changes. Simple, small alterations with potentially great implications to team building and strategy.