Why Turns Are EVERYTHING - The Salamence Theorem

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Who woulda thought, Turns matter.
Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
2:40 - Choice Items
5:15 - Passive Damage
7:59 - Setup Moves
10:13 - The Initial Turn
12:10 - Skill
14:49 - Outro
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@FalseSwipeGaming
@FalseSwipeGaming 11 ай бұрын
Get 20% OFF + Free Shipping @Manscaped with promo code FALSESWIPE at Manscaped.com! #teammanscaped #givegoodface
@playersnake
@playersnake 11 ай бұрын
Video idea The politoad therom, how field conditions (entery hazards, trick room, terrain, weather, etc) be everything
@roninwarriorsfan
@roninwarriorsfan 11 ай бұрын
How good was Terrakion actually!
@dynamic8192
@dynamic8192 11 ай бұрын
HOW GOOD WAS RAPIDASH ACTUALLY
@Luigi_Marineta
@Luigi_Marineta 11 ай бұрын
blastoise remake when
@cluelesskhajiit
@cluelesskhajiit 11 ай бұрын
Sellout....
@ctehuey
@ctehuey 11 ай бұрын
The Tyranitar/Ferrothorn Theorem, the power of passive damage
@nickp7983
@nickp7983 11 ай бұрын
Could just be passive action in general (healing like leftovers/ingrain get included)
@richardjohnson8991
@richardjohnson8991 11 ай бұрын
Sand Stream Hippowdon when it could run toxic
@Jollofmuncher2000
@Jollofmuncher2000 11 ай бұрын
toxapex theorem would work too tbh
@gavaldez5668
@gavaldez5668 11 ай бұрын
They put passive damage in the video? Watch the video first or at least look at the chapters.
@dangerdude
@dangerdude 11 ай бұрын
Don't forget Garganacl. Haha
@TheElcollin
@TheElcollin 11 ай бұрын
My favorite turns are the ones where you and your opponent both miss your moves, so you both just click the same button the next turn like nothing happened.
@quacklord8710
@quacklord8710 10 ай бұрын
yeah lol
@Raven-2000
@Raven-2000 10 ай бұрын
Or both get fully paralyzed
@dreadking6142
@dreadking6142 10 ай бұрын
When I see them click a move that would kill me and they'd outspeed me I will effing switch you can bet on that.
@okebedoke
@okebedoke 8 ай бұрын
​@@dreadking6142to be fair why were you staying in in the first place if you know that move will kill?
@sinteleon
@sinteleon 5 ай бұрын
Because some formats are not open book, they didn't know the opponent had a 1hko on them. ​@@okebedoke
@Ronny35106
@Ronny35106 11 ай бұрын
congrats to roaring moon for being the 3rd best Salamence form
@GlossArt
@GlossArt 11 ай бұрын
competitively? it's definitely second
@yoozernayme4371
@yoozernayme4371 11 ай бұрын
@@GlossArt he's talking about historically, its the only salamence to never have been banned to ubers
@Interiorcrocodilealigator10838
@Interiorcrocodilealigator10838 11 ай бұрын
@@yoozernayme4371look at nat dex where moon has the insta smack it never did in SV which is like it’s one biggest problem is that it doesn’t have a big boom that isn’t outrage, ig Z rage was too much when on paper it’s only right behind mega mence
@treygreypaws3689
@treygreypaws3689 11 ай бұрын
Love Roaring Moon better that Mega or Salamence. Only used Mega and Moon competitively, I dont like Salamence actually
@GlossArt
@GlossArt 11 ай бұрын
@@yoozernayme4371 true, that's fair
@elijahdooley5697
@elijahdooley5697 11 ай бұрын
I still think we should have a theorem about why some pokemon are good in singles and not doubles. Or, the skarmory theorum
@Emilator93
@Emilator93 11 ай бұрын
The Farigiraf theorem.
@wyvernpatriota1842
@wyvernpatriota1842 11 ай бұрын
I think murkrow is a better example
@ExcalibeonSwordofEeveelutions
@ExcalibeonSwordofEeveelutions 11 ай бұрын
I feel like to know what is good in Singles but not in Doubles, we need it side by side with what is good in Doubles but not in singles... So I suggest the Ferrothorn vs Amoonguss Theorem as I did in the last theorem video~
@FoxFighter-HellBringer
@FoxFighter-HellBringer 11 ай бұрын
And vice versa.
@MrShadowThief
@MrShadowThief 11 ай бұрын
Toxaroar theorem
@mr.truffles9294
@mr.truffles9294 11 ай бұрын
Oranguru using instruct to Torkoal, making it use Eruption twice with full HP (at the junior's VGC) , Is a good reason why turns are everything.
@bobfan2821
@bobfan2821 11 ай бұрын
Theres also murkrow with tailwind/quash
@JanusHoW
@JanusHoW 9 ай бұрын
Imagine how broken a Pokemon that automatically set up Trick Room would be. Even if it had terrible stats except for Speed (which would make it move last in its own Trick Room), being able to invert the turn order just by coming in would have a cataclysmic effect on both singles and doubles. Even if it literally could not do anything else, it would still break the game.
@luirromenjivar1390
@luirromenjivar1390 11 ай бұрын
This is why Darmanitan-G was so strong, with a Choice Scarf + Gorilla Tactics basically didnt need any set up turn to be both threating to get a KO and outspeed the oponent. While Choice Band sets didnt have the speed factor, they pushed the KO threat to the limit.
@Zethoro
@Zethoro 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, not to mention the viability of scarf and band made a gimmick like zen mode a serious threat too, solely because base g-darmanitan would force so many switches with its sheer power.
@Groundlord
@Groundlord 11 ай бұрын
On top of that, with Galarian Darmanitan you still have the option of Dynamaxing and losing the effects of Guerilla Tactics. Sure, you lose power, but G-Darmanitan hits like a truck even without its Ability and it has a versatile movepool that can let you score some important KOs without having to worry about switches.
@neversparky
@neversparky 10 ай бұрын
It was effectively already having a free dragon dance up
@wiritpollapcharoenporn3168
@wiritpollapcharoenporn3168 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, a hyperspeed monkey with Coverage is the last thing anyone without Kingshield want to face
@jalepano2608
@jalepano2608 11 ай бұрын
would love to see a theorem about how items are/aren’t everything
@Gold_Gamer_100
@Gold_Gamer_100 11 ай бұрын
Why Items are important. The leftovers theorem. Slap a Skarmory on the thumbnail, and you got a video
@fishbakeditself1213
@fishbakeditself1213 11 ай бұрын
Marowak with Thick Club works too
@mr.truffles9294
@mr.truffles9294 11 ай бұрын
Latios with soul dew would be the cover I guess
@DarthFhenix55
@DarthFhenix55 11 ай бұрын
​@@Gold_Gamer_100Or Chansey with eviolite.
@Interiorcrocodilealigator10838
@Interiorcrocodilealigator10838 11 ай бұрын
@@DarthFhenix55real Gs use lucky punch
@Fletch_078
@Fletch_078 11 ай бұрын
I like how most KZbinrs try to play around the fact that Manscaped sells a ball trimmer, but FSG just puts it how it is.
@rainbowunicode8352
@rainbowunicode8352 11 ай бұрын
I find it funny that over 90 percent of the viewers are guys. Pokemon isn't male exclusive but I guess Pokemon analysis nearly is
@jimmy13morrison
@jimmy13morrison 11 ай бұрын
A key exemple of this is corviknigth>skarmory because of u-turn
@ashameroule9110
@ashameroule9110 11 ай бұрын
Using it at first for massive damage and even sending it off with a final hurrah when it was practically empty in the tank anyway. Actually left the target still in, but, it was still a play🎉
@NotAnElk
@NotAnElk 11 ай бұрын
That could also be representative of the importance of switching out
@gregorymirabella1423
@gregorymirabella1423 11 ай бұрын
corviknight also has slightly worse physical bulk in exchange for much better special bulk.
@overlord3481
@overlord3481 11 ай бұрын
@@gregorymirabella1423 physical bulk advantage of skarmory Is negligible. What skarmory rly has over corviknight is spikes and rocks, and it's better at stopping setup sweepers with its ability sturdy and whirlwind.
@shaderu3402
@shaderu3402 11 ай бұрын
⁠@@overlord3481in a vacuum, yes, but any well constructed team would likely have some way to apply passive chip damage (i.e. hazards, good momentum, etc) and ensure Skarm had been chipped before going for the sweep. In a sense, Skarm ends up being way more passive as a result, since Corv can at least pivot out into a wall or phazer with U-turn on the setup turn
@yokaipinata1416
@yokaipinata1416 6 ай бұрын
Serperior is another good demonstration of this theorem. Generally, a setup sweeper needs to, well, set up before they actually start attacking. Serperior attacks you and sets up _in the same turn._ That first hit won't be too strong because it's not boosted yet, but it helps all the same.
@SemiHypercube
@SemiHypercube 11 ай бұрын
I wonder how much better Trick Room would be in singles if there was an ability that set it up on switch in, rather than needing to take a turn to use the move
@enoyna1001
@enoyna1001 11 ай бұрын
Would be controversial, to say the least.
@redwings13400
@redwings13400 11 ай бұрын
I think it would be super strong, especially if that setter either could use the trick room themselves, or had something like teleport or u turn to pass to another teammate. Auto weather setters are so much stronger than manual rain dance because it saves... you guess it... a turn! And that's so huge! Trick room lacks consistency because it takes mutiple turns to set up and take advantage of, then gives a very small number of turns to take advantage of the set. You need someone who's strength borders on broken like Ursaluna to make it work, anything else and the turn cost just isn't consistently worthwhile. Make it an ability and its a MUCH, MUCH stronger playstyle.
@assassinshadow2800
@assassinshadow2800 11 ай бұрын
TR has -6 or -7 priority so that the oppoment at least has something to deal with TR set up, with that, it would be too OP
@lipika2841
@lipika2841 11 ай бұрын
Trick Room extender wouldn't be so bad
@amandacarricato3487
@amandacarricato3487 11 ай бұрын
I think it would be better if a Trick Room extender so that Trick Room could kinda work in singles while not being the most broken thing in VGC (what game is balanced by)
@parkerdixon-word6295
@parkerdixon-word6295 11 ай бұрын
I would actually call this the "Legends: Arceus Theorem" just because of how well that game demonstrates that changing the turn-based format throws the entire battle system for a loop into something completely different.
@demi-femme4821
@demi-femme4821 10 ай бұрын
I really wish that L:A had pvp. I'd wanna see what crazy meta would develop in that game.
@djroscurro9859
@djroscurro9859 10 ай бұрын
​@@demi-femme4821Quick attack and priority moves everywhere lol
@worldsboss
@worldsboss 11 ай бұрын
The day Trick Room becomes an ability, the scene will feel the true force of this theorem.
@iantaakalla8180
@iantaakalla8180 10 ай бұрын
It will be the ability of either an Ice type that is fast or a great Ground or Steel or Fairy or Dark type.
@maxlimit9129
@maxlimit9129 11 ай бұрын
aside from the videos voiced by BKC, this is the most BKC video you guys have ever uploaded. I see the good work you're doing here Kev, maybe next time Kellen will let you slip in some obscure movie references
11 ай бұрын
Who is BKC?
@02miguener99s
@02miguener99s 11 ай бұрын
​@im also curious
@gerardoortega323
@gerardoortega323 11 ай бұрын
​@PokefanGuquizUjixyz I believe he writes the script. He also has a youtube channel where he gives insightful commentary about a wide range of Pokemon metagames
@Interiorcrocodilealigator10838
@Interiorcrocodilealigator10838 11 ай бұрын
@@gerardoortega323he’s singles portions, he’s at least done skarmory, and chansey and blissey. FSG covers singles and doubles, yet BKC only talks singles on his channels, and more consistently drops hour long videos on meta or tournament analysis, or what if’s like recently “what if stealth rocks in gen 3” “Latias in adv OU” “mew In dpp” they’re so long cuz he doesn’t use a script
@theschnozzler
@theschnozzler 11 ай бұрын
BKC videos are goated
@FirstLastname604
@FirstLastname604 11 ай бұрын
The Ambipom Theorem: Why being in a certain tier isn’t always a good thing
@TheVodkaHaze
@TheVodkaHaze 11 ай бұрын
Was Ambipom a case of way too good for the lower tiers, but it struggled in the tier it was in?
@noobmaster-yx7de
@noobmaster-yx7de 11 ай бұрын
@@TheVodkaHaze yeah
@noobmaster-yx7de
@noobmaster-yx7de 11 ай бұрын
Not exactly. It wasn’t that it was too broken, it was that people were using it too much in the upper tiers, thus not allowing it to drop.
@thebard9459
@thebard9459 11 ай бұрын
Turns out that turns in a turn-based battle system are essential. Who would've guessed?
@honestkyn718
@honestkyn718 11 ай бұрын
Really makes the gears in my head turn
@Significantharrassment
@Significantharrassment 11 ай бұрын
I feel the gears inside me turning me on
@jirehtheprovider
@jirehtheprovider 11 ай бұрын
So, as a long time fan of the main series and the genre, does it mean that for us fans that neglected the hidden valued lessons of Turn based Game mechanics, are we just not fit to play Pokemon VGC and Smogon sets? As someone that tried it during Generation 4 and 5, while fun for a short period of time, it made my experience sour for one simple reason. My In game team pokemon favorites NEVER Work most of the time in the standard tiers. Character Loyalty (aka sticking purely with your favorites no matter what happens through studying their best strengths overtime)
@sumthinorother9615
@sumthinorother9615 11 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@jirehtheprovider Character Loyalty for Pokémon doesn’t work in the same way as some genres. Mastering their strengths involves more than changing their own moves and items. To do the best by your favorite, you have to use a team that lets them shine. Depending on what you mean by “standard tier,” there’s a decent chance you can find a way to make almost any of your favorites viable, but probably not at the same time. If that’s a dealbreaker, you *_only_* want to use your favorites, then yeah, you probably won’t get anything out of competitive. That’s not on turn based, though, it’s a shortcoming of team based/deck building games. Even in Skullgirls, which is considered a near perfectly balanced fighting game, there are team comps that just suck. Rarely.
@jirehtheprovider
@jirehtheprovider 11 ай бұрын
@@sumthinorother9615 thanks for the painful red pill. But let's say this as an example. Tell me how much these kinds of teams will suck in Generation 5 metagames (or even other Generations if you want). As someone that does not always have the time keeping up with community metas, how much do these thematic teams suck? Team A (a personal favorite of mine for the team of Team Angel Wings from Final Fantasy 10X2) Cinccino (Primary) Mienshao Lilligant Gardevoir Medicham Team B (All small Baby 100 based Stat Mythical Pokemon) Jirachi (primary) Mew Celebi Manaphy Shaymin (either form works) Victini
@Cykk0
@Cykk0 11 ай бұрын
swapping a psychic terrain indeedee into an eject button drought torkoal to instantly set up the field for an armorouge to enter at full health and maximizing the number of turns you have for each field effect starting at Turn 2.
@numberstheidiot
@numberstheidiot 11 ай бұрын
Fear incarnate
@zachpro5475
@zachpro5475 11 ай бұрын
We need the Marowak theorem why items are close to everything
@MrMonkey2150
@MrMonkey2150 11 ай бұрын
They aren’t tho like at all, if you want proof why just look at gen 6-7 knock off meta. Don’t get me wrong items are important but they are not required and everything because if that was the case knock off would have been banned
@scoutbane1651
@scoutbane1651 11 ай бұрын
​@@MrMonkey2150... And... Why do you think knock off is so widespread, if items aren't *that* important? And why do mons often fall an entire tier simply because they lose the utility knock off affords? They very very often decide the course of battles. This is like saying speed isn't that important because sticky webs and agility aren't banned... Like obviously it isn't everything, but that's why they suggested *CLOSE* to everything, like for the other vids.
@MrMonkey2150
@MrMonkey2150 11 ай бұрын
@@scoutbane1651 it’s not close to everything tho is it, because if it was then it would have been banned. Pokemon don’t need items to be good dude and if you think they do then ur playing Pokémon wrong
@jeff-hh8fs
@jeff-hh8fs 11 ай бұрын
i think latias/latios would fit this better because of how much weaker they became without soul dew
@browserjunior4707
@browserjunior4707 11 ай бұрын
⁠@@MrMonkey2150 Uhh…items make Pokémon better and they do need items to maximize their usefulness. Ferrothorn is decent if it doesn’t have Leftovers or Rocky Helmet, leftovers is essential on defensive Pokémon just like how Type Boosting Items, Expert Belt, Life Orb, and Choice Items are on most offensive Pokémon. Look at Latios and Latias, they’re already great Pokémon yes but Items provide so much for them that they always need to run them. Back then Soul Dew provided a free Calm Mind boost, making both of them very dangerous and why both were staples in OU and UU respectively for so long until the Soul Dew Nerf. Items provide so much that some Pokémon rely on them a lot, Heavy Duty Boots is on every pivot Pokémon and every Rock Weak Pokémon, Leftovers/Assault Vest on bulky tanks, Black Sludge on Poison Type utility Pokémon pre-SV, etc., the reality of the situation is that items make the game so much more varied during their introduction in Gen 2.
@GuyFromCanada
@GuyFromCanada 11 ай бұрын
If we’re doing game mechanics, I think the Dynamax theorem might be something to do as well. Generational gimmicks are everything. Considering that the pokemon who can abuse generational gimmicks tend to be some of the most busted ones.
@mistermr2147
@mistermr2147 11 ай бұрын
Pre-Gen 5 there were no generational gimmicks lol
@GuyFromCanada
@GuyFromCanada 11 ай бұрын
@@mistermr2147 You could stretch it out if you wanted; Gen 2 got held items, Gen 3 got abilities, Gen 4 had........... Gen 5 had permanent weather. They're stretches but idk, seems like an interesting idea. Maybe generational mechanics might be a better theorem?
@warsword4
@warsword4 11 ай бұрын
Gen 4 added the physical/special split.
@GuyFromCanada
@GuyFromCanada 11 ай бұрын
@@warsword4 Totally forgor about that
@mistermr2147
@mistermr2147 11 ай бұрын
@@GuyFromCanada Gens 3/4 had much bigger changes than you listed, Gen 5 didn't add permanent weather, and I'd say those are major mechanical changes, not gimmicks like Dynamax, Z-moves, Megas, etc.
@MasterAbeer101
@MasterAbeer101 11 ай бұрын
I love the thumbnail referencing the moment Cell from DBZ points at himself 😂
@bdt2002gaming
@bdt2002gaming 11 ай бұрын
The Azelf Theorem could be a very unique idea for one of these, being a video about the lead metagame and how being a good lead can give a Pokémon a niche
@amateraceon5202
@amateraceon5202 11 ай бұрын
And as we all know, when it comes to singles, there’s no better turn to take than a U-turn
@Sam_Hetfield
@Sam_Hetfield 11 ай бұрын
The Murkrow/Chansey/Eviolite Theorem: how an unevolved Pokémon holding Eviolite can be far more useful and terrifying than its evolved form
@joshuahong8255
@joshuahong8255 11 ай бұрын
Tbh murkrow doesn’t even need eviolite to do its job. I know some of them ran covert cloak to block fake out
@VincentV465
@VincentV465 11 ай бұрын
This made me think about gen 7's Extreme Evoboost. I was surprised it got so much recognition despite the fact it takes 2 whole turns to set up, one to z move and one to baton pass. At least in VGC, that's a long time. I never played the strategy personally, but I had a lot of respect to those who did well with it.
@ayushseth6950
@ayushseth6950 11 ай бұрын
We seriously need reboots of some of the old ones....like crobat
@rishabhb307
@rishabhb307 11 ай бұрын
Yeah even Gengar
@roninwarriorsfan
@roninwarriorsfan 11 ай бұрын
No we don't, not until every pokemon that hasn't gotten covered, gets covered
@jossuecabrera8611
@jossuecabrera8611 11 ай бұрын
Especially ones that were covered during the early days of gen 7. Amuk and dragonite comes to mind
@haidynwendlandt2479
@haidynwendlandt2479 11 ай бұрын
@@roninwarriorsfanI half-disagree, I think it would be fun if he started a quick “updates” series, where he makes KZbin shorts providing small “here’s how the Pokémon changed since the video”
@jossuecabrera8611
@jossuecabrera8611 11 ай бұрын
​@@haidynwendlandt2479that would be a good idea. Would love to see a brief explanation on how dragonite and the starters changed since their last videos
@JMalaby89
@JMalaby89 11 ай бұрын
My god…he’s gone off the rails. There’s a theorem for everything lmao
@Musasensei1674
@Musasensei1674 11 ай бұрын
more theorem more money more view
@mintystingmoon4787
@mintystingmoon4787 11 ай бұрын
“Why Pokedex number may or may not be everything” The Gholdengo Theorem
@Musasensei1674
@Musasensei1674 11 ай бұрын
@@mintystingmoon4787 why pokemon colour is close to everything,muk alola theorem
@heypaisana
@heypaisana 11 ай бұрын
the falseswipe game theorem are theorem videos everything?
@aubueruser7228
@aubueruser7228 11 ай бұрын
Why breedability is close to everything - The Beheeyem Theorem
@warrockenjoyer2170
@warrockenjoyer2170 11 ай бұрын
I still say we need a "Why teammates are everything" or the Indeedee Idea
@lwfawn
@lwfawn 11 ай бұрын
Perhaps the Torkoal theorem; when weather is a Pokémon’s make-or-break.
@mistermr2147
@mistermr2147 11 ай бұрын
Nah give it to Politoed
@benyusop6471
@benyusop6471 10 ай бұрын
Toilet seat pokemon Go drizzle drizzle
@hifuu1383
@hifuu1383 10 ай бұрын
Pelipper Theorem.
@cesarflamenco9484
@cesarflamenco9484 8 ай бұрын
How ironic would it be for Torkoal to have a Theorem video dedicated to it before a How Good video on this channel.
@SerenV11
@SerenV11 11 ай бұрын
Half-expecting something at some point about Four Moveslot Syndrome. Dunno if it'd work specifically as a Theorem vid per se, but could be fun to tackle directly in some depth regardless.
@cesarflamenco9484
@cesarflamenco9484 8 ай бұрын
I see Gallade being a good candidate for the cover of this topic.
@droozyyy
@droozyyy 10 ай бұрын
Gen 4 Salamence just shows how Salamence has always been one of the best Pokémon around. Physical, special, mixed, even defensive sets, it does it all. It’s fast and strong enough to end games after just 1 dragon dance, and bulky enough to get off the best setup move in the game at the time.
@Goldy12378
@Goldy12378 11 ай бұрын
I feel like mentioning teams centered around speed control, namely Tailwind, Sticky Web, & Trick Room, are worth mentioning in regards to this thereom. One turn completely alters the order Pokémon can attack, and this is even more so true with the introduction of dynamic speed in Gen 8.
@Mis_May493
@Mis_May493 11 ай бұрын
I would love to hear about the leftovers theorem how items are mostly everything
@brandonmoore9754
@brandonmoore9754 11 ай бұрын
Absolute banger of a video once again, my favorite Pseudo legendary/one of my favorite Pokémon ever just being a monster
@whichDude
@whichDude 11 ай бұрын
15:00 Everything about this Deoxys attack animation is amazing. The approach, the "attack", and the aggressive arm wiggles at low posture
@themasterblaze7563
@themasterblaze7563 11 ай бұрын
"Why progress is EVERYTHING - The Blissey/Toxic Theorem" Inevitability and blanking out an opponent turn would be a neat thing to talk about at length
@noahwins2657
@noahwins2657 11 ай бұрын
This theorem is EXACTLY why I always say that Garchomp doesn’t necessarily want Dragon Dance, so long as it has Scale Shot. Either way, you have to spend a crucial turn setting up; either using Dragon Dance or Swords Dance. The difference is that Garchomp needs +2 in Attack to hut crucial benchmarks to KO targets such as Ferrothorn, phys Def Clefable, and threaten Landorus after an intimidate. With Swords Dance + Scale Shot, you are only spending ONE turn to boost your attack to that level before you can start attacking. With Dragon Dance, you have to spend at least TWO turns not attacking before you can start your sweep. That one turn difference literally makes or breaks Garchomp’s sweeping potential.
@mentalityandmotivation7069
@mentalityandmotivation7069 11 ай бұрын
That def drop is so bad Sucker punch Gambit is everywhere and almost every team has priority attacker.Dragon Dance is far more better.Scale shot is stopped by fairies easily.
@Lmjacks
@Lmjacks 11 ай бұрын
was surprised to not see switch moves mentioned in this, but cool vid nonetheless. the value of singles trick room over time is a pretty good example of rarely having enough value per turn it’s active (with the obvious exception of ursaluna). an auto setting ability or an extending item would go miles to make it more viable in singles
@analyticofexistance7847
@analyticofexistance7847 11 ай бұрын
Next theory: Why mechanics are close to everything, The Charizard Theorem? I think Charizard having access to the most mechanics makes it the perfect candidate for this theory.
@Qamikace
@Qamikace 11 ай бұрын
It's essentially the idea of "action economy" applied to one-on-one RPG fights, which is a situation that only really happens in Pokemon.
@MrMaharg79
@MrMaharg79 11 ай бұрын
Next time 'Why everything in mons is a theorem' - The Theorem Theorem
@roidadadou5456
@roidadadou5456 11 ай бұрын
Nah, let’s be real, Salamence just has everything to begin with.
@Mswordx23
@Mswordx23 11 ай бұрын
No qualifiers, no "almost", no "might be", just they ARE everything
@nieldoe1751
@nieldoe1751 11 ай бұрын
Next Week: "Why Pokémon Are KINDA IMPORTANT I THINK - The ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎‎ ‎ ‎ Theorem"
@TehDompie
@TehDompie 11 ай бұрын
Love it! Do the Shedinja Theorem next! Low tier pokemon finding a niche in high power metas.
@MishKoz
@MishKoz 11 ай бұрын
That's kind of what the Quagsire Theorem video was
@gibletoglory
@gibletoglory 11 ай бұрын
​@@MishKozYea lol
@kendukin9725
@kendukin9725 11 ай бұрын
We should get shorts offering brief updates on all the Pokemon that have seen relevant meta shifts since they were covered on this channel. A lot of the early gen7 content especially was just a few months short of more content.
@mattlurking3136
@mattlurking3136 11 ай бұрын
I never thought I would find this so insightful. It seems so obvious that every turn is important in a turn-based game what more is there to say? I was definitely surprised. Great job FSG team!
@mandalorianhunter1
@mandalorianhunter1 11 ай бұрын
I was just looking at the channel and now a new video came up. Hell yeah
@danieljones0529
@danieljones0529 11 ай бұрын
Why a bad Movepool doesn’t spell doom. The spectrier theorem (have spectrier with a hat saying “one trick pony”)
@tomikokasaka624
@tomikokasaka624 11 ай бұрын
I feel like this should've been called the Aegislash theorem because it was always attacking one turn and defending the other. Also, video ideas Why Size is almost Everything, the Aggron Theorem Why Immunities are Everything, the Shedinja Theorem
@GerrytheHeeHo
@GerrytheHeeHo 11 ай бұрын
insane, turns in a turn-based RPG matter... who would have thought!
@iwinha8495
@iwinha8495 11 ай бұрын
Now that we have a False Swipe Theorem film, let's see the long awaited sequel to the Pokemon typing film! It's been almost 6 years since how good the ice type was actually, we've been getting cold feet waiting for the next one 🧊
@OdysseyExe
@OdysseyExe 11 ай бұрын
Which will come out first? The Pokemon "x" Type video or the Gen 2 Pokemon Mechanics explained lol
@videakias3000
@videakias3000 11 ай бұрын
I was hopping that you would make a list with pokemon whose abilities/movepools give them/their teamates free turns. fine I will do it myself: -spore users like breloom can put the opponent to sleep, this is a nearly guaranteed free turn since the opponent will either switch or try to wake up (most of the time they don't wake up immediately). -glimmora does not need to set up toxic spikes thanks to the ability toxic debris -hisuian samurot can set up spikes and deal damage at the same time thanks to the move ceaseless edge. -the move protect in general is good if you are trying to wear down the opponent with passive damage like toxic. -the weather and terrain setting abilities -the move shed tail got banned from gen 9 ou since it allowed set up sweepers a free turn to set up. -ditto's imposter ability lets it transform to the opponent instantly instead of manually.
@superfrubblez6123
@superfrubblez6123 11 ай бұрын
What about the Incineroar theorem. Why success in singles isn’t everything.
@matigamer329
@matigamer329 11 ай бұрын
Do a why HP isn't always everything - the guzzlord theorem Some examples of pokémon whose best stat is its HP: Wigglytuff, Lanturn, Wailord and obviously Guzzlord.
@gibletoglory
@gibletoglory 11 ай бұрын
They basically already did this with the bastiodon theorem
@matigamer329
@matigamer329 10 ай бұрын
@@gibletoglory that was with defense. I’m talking about health points.
@gibletoglory
@gibletoglory 10 ай бұрын
@@matigamer329 no, they did wigglytuff.
@matigamer329
@matigamer329 10 ай бұрын
@@gibletoglory what they did? they did wow.
@Tenshiyo
@Tenshiyo 11 ай бұрын
My favorite application of "the initial turn" concept discussed here was a few years ago in Smogon PU where I played a lot and I used a Choice Scarfed Kingler lead where I gave it a very specific amount of Speed EVs to outspeed Emolga leads. I slapped many squirrels in that format lol
@that_dwayneee
@that_dwayneee 10 ай бұрын
May I propose: why flexibility is everything - the landorus theorem
@HanakkoLove
@HanakkoLove 11 ай бұрын
Why itens are everything, the knock off theorem
@N12015
@N12015 11 ай бұрын
Turns being everything is also why speed is close to everything. Moving first means a guaranteed turn, while moving second it means almost no chance of acting way too often.
@ktownpunkjr.1946
@ktownpunkjr.1946 11 ай бұрын
Love the theorems! Lets see how many more we can conjure up!
@justindekoning9988
@justindekoning9988 11 ай бұрын
Theres really slow examples of this too. Jirachi's para flinch spam is almost broken in gen 4 ou. Sometimes its ideal to just switch in a hippoowdon or something and try and male it waste all it iron heads so it isnt a threat anymore
@Imanmagnet00
@Imanmagnet00 11 ай бұрын
This trend of calling everything a theorem is getting ridiculous. Complete nonsense
@Musasensei1674
@Musasensei1674 11 ай бұрын
true but it doesnt matter as long as he is making more money
@algar6616
@algar6616 10 ай бұрын
You guys are getting straight up philosophical with it I like
@skeletorthebest7204
@skeletorthebest7204 11 ай бұрын
y’all are making a theorem out of everything now “why IVs are everything: the trick room theorem” boutta be next
@yurisei6732
@yurisei6732 11 ай бұрын
At this point may as well just make a video titled "why the battle system as a whole is everything", since just about every component of it has now individually been more or less everything.
@jabarimcleod9768
@jabarimcleod9768 11 ай бұрын
I haven’t seen anyone say anything about how brilliant the thumbnail is. Genuinely got a smile out of me lmao
@Wreckbot_
@Wreckbot_ 11 ай бұрын
Something i find interesting is how legends arceus plays with the turn order and thus emphasizes it importance. In that game, since it showed the specific turn order on the side and you were able to manipulate it by using agile/strong style moves, it allowed for opportunities such as attacking 3 times in a row and made KOing opposing pokemon incredibly easy. Similarly, since turns were not solely determined by both you and your opponent clicking a move and the faster pokemon moving first, sending in a new pokemon after another fainted oftentimes allowed you to just straight up attack before your opponent even gets the chance to switch, furthering that instant KO potential. I think this played a big part in why so many people found the battle against Volo to be challenging, since the battle system revolving so much around 1 for 1s meant that having an unfair disadvantage in terms of the number of pokemon on your team made it infinitely more difficult to beat that Giratina. Would have been cool to be able to actually battle other players in that game, probably would have been quite a few interesting strategies in terms of manipulating turn order for your own advantage.
@froggy822
@froggy822 11 ай бұрын
Never did I think I'd hear the words "cutting-edge BALL TRIMMER" on a False Swipe Gaming video.
@ScoutNess
@ScoutNess 11 ай бұрын
Whoever invented Quiver Dance probably just wanted to watch the world burn.
@TheMightyWobb
@TheMightyWobb 11 ай бұрын
The same guy who made Victory Dance
@Articunoboy12
@Articunoboy12 11 ай бұрын
Geomancy
@mr.truffles9294
@mr.truffles9294 11 ай бұрын
Destiny bond
@Immys_Art
@Immys_Art 11 ай бұрын
Rockslide powertrick shuckle during trickroom in the VGC format is an incredible combination, but it takes a lot of time to set up. It’s theoretically one of, if not the best way to sweep a team, due to rockslide hitting both opponents, shuckle having unmatched speed and attack (and it’s not even close), as well as shuckle’s sturdy allowing it to take a hit after powertrick. The only problems are how long it takes to set up, allowing anyone who knows what’s up to easily put it to a stop, and multiple-hit moves, which ignore sturdy on the second hit, instantly killing shuckle. It takes a turn to set up trickroom and a turn to set up powertrick. These can be done in the same turn, but that also allows your opponent to have two unopposed Pokémon, leaving you in a terrible position. They could double your shuckle, killing the strategy. They could predict trickroom and also use it. They could switch in a Pokémon with sturdy or sash. They could kill your trickroom setter before it goes up. They could kill the play with one Pokémon and use the turn to set up the other with dragon dance, quiver dance, bulk up, etc.. Essentially, there’s not a good way to set shuckle sweep up, not without making a better opportunity for another play (such as sleeping both opposing Pokémon and then using quiver dance volcarona).
@afriendlycampfire260
@afriendlycampfire260 11 ай бұрын
This is the first episode where it says “are/is everything” because every thing else is “might be/is close to everything” or “is not everything”
@AtlasNovack
@AtlasNovack 11 ай бұрын
Loving these theorems guys
@nomemuitocriativo9792
@nomemuitocriativo9792 11 ай бұрын
A Knock Off Theorem about why Items can be everything would be amazing even tho it would be different from the other theorems
@08Juan80
@08Juan80 11 ай бұрын
Why Knock Off can be everything: The Knock Off theorem, where we see the upsides and rare downsides of using moves like Knock Off and Trick/Switcheroo.
@arthurvergolino6859
@arthurvergolino6859 11 ай бұрын
posting this every video until false swipe see it. video 4. please finish the series with what we truelly deserve: why the metagame is LITERALLY EVERYTHING: The Smogon/pachirisu theorem.
@Aflay1
@Aflay1 11 ай бұрын
I friggin love the memes in the thumbnail. Especially the rollsafe salamence.
@DaikoruArtwin
@DaikoruArtwin 11 ай бұрын
10:14 Yeah, versatile Pokemons are such a pain. One time, I faced a Celesteela, and I decided to just switch into Ditto for the sole purpose of scouting its entire moveset and not get any bad surprises for the rest of the battle. That was a turn well spent~
@yasuohatsu3374
@yasuohatsu3374 10 ай бұрын
Okay so you may or may not be getting tired of these theorems, but here's an interesting one I can suggest that doesn't really get talked about enough; the Wailord/Guzzlord theorem, or why putting everything into HP is a bad idea.
@yasuohatsu3374
@yasuohatsu3374 10 ай бұрын
This may sound similar to the Bastiodon Theorem, however I must point out that many of the mons that min/max for HP often have pretty underwhelming actual hit taking ability in practice, even putting aside other factors like weaknesses, resistances, recovery, etc. They fall short in actual, raw hit taking ability, which is one of their many problems.
@user-uv1vf6ep8h
@user-uv1vf6ep8h 11 ай бұрын
i cant believe the EVERYTHING video's theorem was based around my favorite pokemon nice
@RaynmanPlays
@RaynmanPlays 11 ай бұрын
Choice items give the equivalent of a single boost (not even a Swords Dance, Choice Band is the equivalent of Meditate) _and_ cost versatility by locking a Pokemon into a single move while out. And they're some of the best items in the game. Abilities and items that mimic a move on switch-in, even if that move is not powerful enough to ever see play as part of a moveset, are extremely powerful. You're effectively getting a free turn. Even if that turn can only be used for certain moves that are rather underpowered, it can still be counted as half a turn.
@priestesslucy3299
@priestesslucy3299 11 ай бұрын
11:58 Mence was leaving _immense_ damage in its wake. I see what you did there 👏👏
@NooKingsAshwin
@NooKingsAshwin 11 ай бұрын
MY FAVOURITE BOY GOT HIS VIDEO! Thank you for giving the spotlight to my favourite Pokémon man
@Winterbraid
@Winterbraid 11 ай бұрын
Just wanted to say I really love the thumbnail, Salamence looks so adorable doing that pose
@PandabearQ25
@PandabearQ25 11 ай бұрын
Speaking of vgc-glimmora had a spot during regulation c of the current gen, sv, due to its ability giving you 1-2 layers of toxic spikes if it was hit. Its signature move guaranteeing poison (whether that was toxic poison or not i don’t remember) on top of its alternative ability being corrosion lends itself well to the salamence theory given the inability to know if the opposing team wanted to cover for giving steel and poison types poison or passive hazards.
@joshuawilliams4741
@joshuawilliams4741 11 ай бұрын
This is why I always pack and Espeon and Oricorio-Sensu on my team. The main reason Volcarona is such a threat is because of its combination of Quiver Dance and Firey Dance. Thanks to Oricorio’s Dancer ability, I can set up my own Quiver Dance, AND abuse the opponent’s moves in the same turn. It can’t even hit back thanks to it’s boosted SDef, and resistance to it’s coverage moves. Magic Bounce Espeon + Yawn lets me set up Hazards on the Hazard setters and force them to switch out, or puts them to sleep. Psych Up and Psychic let’s me steal the opponents stat moves on set up turns. It doesn’t really matter what’s happening in front of it. Espeon is either going to make them sleep or going to sweep.
@cbored3778
@cbored3778 10 ай бұрын
I quite like these theorem videos I'd quite like to see one based on the importance of held items something like "The leftovers theorem" Or "the Lati theorem" cos of soul dew
@grrman
@grrman 11 ай бұрын
So, when will you guys continue the type series? Really wanna see that fleshed out
@juany8757
@juany8757 10 ай бұрын
The toxapex theorem, explaining how toxapex isnt so good in doubles but it is good in singles
@richardtust6355
@richardtust6355 11 ай бұрын
This guy explaining one word with so much detail it became a new description in the dictionary
@Cybertech134
@Cybertech134 11 ай бұрын
It would be cool to have a video on strategies and ways of thinking that were developed from later gens that were eventually adapted to earlier generations.
@Mac_Spector
@Mac_Spector 11 ай бұрын
"Why Status Conditions are Everything - The Sableye Theorem" As Sableye is known for being a pest with Prankster Will-O-Wisp and Thunder Wave and in the video maybe you can explore how status effects (Burn, Paralyze, Sleep, Freeze, Poison) can effect a game
@Noob-uz6by
@Noob-uz6by 11 ай бұрын
You should do a theorem about generation gimmicks and what makes them important for some pokemons viability such as Terastallation making Regieleki from UU to banned to Ubers
@mathieul4303
@mathieul4303 11 ай бұрын
I love this channel man
@MC_Seto
@MC_Seto 11 ай бұрын
I was kind of expecting a section about switching moves: the might of VoltTurn strategies reside in their ability to do three things in one turn: scout the opponent, inflict damage AND reposition to be in a better position next turn. That’s also why Dynamax is probably the most powerful gimmick, even over Mégas: it allows you to both deal insane damage AND boost yourself or set up terrain/weather in the same turn.
@flatbread42
@flatbread42 11 ай бұрын
I think something that would’ve been good to talk about more would be the flip side of choice items. If your choice Pokémon gets walled by a set up Pokémon, there’s now a big threat on the field you may not be able to beat. Great video tho, I like this series
@monkdonk4095
@monkdonk4095 11 ай бұрын
Remember a time when i got spidops in random battles vs a zacian,i used every single Hazards and she used SD,when she was about to Go +6 Circle throw
@lovekittys1239
@lovekittys1239 10 ай бұрын
I feel like a video on items in this format would be interesting
@lipika2841
@lipika2841 11 ай бұрын
I kinda hoped that you made a mention of PLA for changing how turns function. This makes me want FSG to cover mechanics of that game similar to the LGPE video.
@kitsuaria4859
@kitsuaria4859 11 ай бұрын
It is worth mentioning that this is the most powerful aspect of Terastalization. While in practice it is only changing a Pokemon's type, being able to tank or straight up ignore a game defining hit essentially gives a Terastalizing Pokemon a free turn, even more it forces the opposing Pokemon to switch out. A Choice Band Headlong Rush Great Tusk might be able to force Kingambit, but as soon as that Kingambit terastalizes into a Flying type, not only did that Great Tusk waste a turn on a now immune opponent, but it also has to switch out less it wants to allow Kingambit to get more than one Swords Dance off it.
@HenryZhoupokemon
@HenryZhoupokemon 11 ай бұрын
Honestly I want to see a “theorem video” about what different theorems exist between VGC and singles This video got me thinking, cuz for the example the actions in a turns are fundamentally different in 1v1 and 2v2 battle
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