Why Uncle is NOT Red Harlow (THEORY DEBUNKED)

[@vimetherandom]

We also know that red Harlow didn't have terminal lumbago

[@zonkers.]

you make a compelling argument.

[@24_Rav4]

😂

[@umarheadcutter7189]

@@zonkers. what the music theme in the back ground

[@rollingreal]

@@umarheadcutter7189 kzbin.info/www/bejne/d3eVY6mXfLGtn68&ab_channel=WoodyJackson-Topic (the music at the start)

[@kjp.7714]

We all know red harlow had lumbago, he just overdued it and had a relapse.

[@beserxs8545]

Personally I like to write off the holes in the theory by assuming the stories of Red Harlow simply were told incorrectly by the sheriff narrator in red dead revolver making the uncle theory still plausible. Kinda similar to how people thought Jim boy Calloway was a crazy gunslinger but in reality he wasn’t all he was hyped up to be as all the stories about him were simply “bunk”

[@zonkers.]

imagine if they payed homage to red harlow by somehow including him in that mission chain, where he played a role kind of like black belle mixed with hamish where you need to look for him to ask questions about jimboy and you end up befriending him and and you do little activities with him kind of like hamish

[@JackeyBoyyy]

if that's what you want to believe. Then whatever floats your boat. But if we talking actual red dead lore, then he 100% wasn't red harlow. I don't even care about the plot holes, the developers confirmed it wasn't him. And that is good enough for me.

[@downtown_clownybrown]

@@JackeyBoyyy thanks teach...

[@KC.45]

Not possible. We know for a fact Red Harlow is a well-known bounty hunter, not just a gunslinger. What would Arthur, a tough and lethal outlaw, do if he ever encountered a bounty hunter?

[@feiwnakausvkaxbdkebkswowbq8331]

@@zonkers. I just want to see how Red Harlow is after getting his revenge at the end of red dead revolver. From a rdr2 style character model he seems to be smiling.

[@DutchVanDerLinde-sx1ox]

This didn't even mention the personality difference. Red was the silent stoic type. Uncle can't shut up

[@zonkers.]

You do make a good point, however we just wanted to go over all the things people bring up as "evidence" and not just things that are flat out obvious characteristics, if that makes sense.

[@karuapereira726]

Some People can get a lot more talkative when they get older

[@JackeyBoyyy]

People change over time. Just because you're stoic today doesn't mean you will be tomorrow.

[@joecor8986]

Alcohol Dutch. Uncle's drunk 24/7.

[@Whocares158]

Agreed.

[@xiffly4736]

I believe that Red Harlow is just some legendary Bounty Hunter. No connections to anyone, just a person that people have told stories about for a while and the story has probably gotten crazier and crazier each telling. I mean, what if the original story we see isn’t even the actual one just some overhyped bounty hunter.

[@wooblydooblygod3857]

Read Dead Revolver 2: true story It's about what really happened and it turns out that Red was just a pretty good bounty hunter who wasn't unremarkable but also wasn't amazing.

[@datsapaddlin]

Or the story could be the truth and that’s what it is.

[@MrLlama-sz3br]

i always knew uncle wasnt red harlow but i still love the idea of uncle being a complete bad ass

[@wooblydooblygod3857]

He did know how to shoot at least.

[@user-wi7iy2me7y]

One shot kid

[@wooblydooblygod3857]

@@Zmirg according to him.

[@shallows529]

​@@wooblydooblygod3857 He knew how to shot three bullets straight out of a double barrel shotgun.

[@madmannn9576]

@@wooblydooblygod3857 And as we know Uncle isnt a very trustworthy source

[@ashleykendrick5133]

Perhaps Uncle was used as the inspiration for the "fictional" story that the characters share.

[@penjamingwrangler]

if jim boy calloway can get away with being famous then anything is possible

[@KC.45]

What did Uncle ever do that is remotely similar to the events seen in Red Dead Revolver?

[@SuperiorUncleGrandpaOfMadness]

@@KC.45 How the hell would we know? WE DON'T. At the time we meet Uncle, he is an elderly alcoholic. When RD Revolver ended, Harlow killed a GOVERNOR. When you kill a highly regarded individual of a Government, you become hunted, which is why Uncle COULD be Harlow. BECAUSE HE IS HIDING AFTER KILLING A GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL. I seriously don't understand you people. Decades pass and you think the guy is gonna stay the exact same person. Years pass and you think they are gonna look like they did decades ago. The original story could easily have been exaggerated and told incorrectly by the sherrif who was telling the story. Why? BECAUSE HARLOW KILLED A WELL KNOWN GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL AND IS ON THE FUCKING RUN.

[@Sogoti]

Imagine if rdr3 is about Red Hallow

[@zonkers.]

i would actually really like that. i think it would be interesting to revisit his story.

[@wakemewhenyouneedme937]

I think in order for that it would be revolver 2 instead of redemption 3.

[@JackeyBoyyy]

Maybe if it was called Red Dead Revolver 2 then I'd be down to check that game out.

[@remuz3561]

Red Dead Revolver Redemption

[@DemonGodRyuukai]

Uncle not being red is 100% possible, however revolver and redemption 1&2 not being in the same universe can be donated hard, cuz you can find red harlows house, and hear several different characters through both games talk about red harlow, and he's been mentioned by name in rdr2.

[@JackycakesV2]

Or the fact rockstar literally said red dead revolver and red dead redemption isn’t related bruh. That’s literally all that needs to be said

[@wrathsreign7227]

@JackycakesV2 that's a mistake I feel rockstar made. It would have been cool if all three games were in the same universe. But that's just my opinion

[@JackycakesV2]

@@wrathsreign7227 red dead revolver is a cartoonish game while rdr and rdr2 went for realism.

[@genevievesweet7741]

@@JackycakesV2 They also said their universes intertwine in the next sentence after that. It's never been clear.

[@JackeyBoyyy]

@@wrathsreign7227 even if it was a mistake, facts are facts and the redharlow being uncle theory is debunked. Your opinion is completely irrelevant to the discussion we're having.

[@miguelvasquez4648]

Whilst I Wouldn't Be Surprised If Uncle Was A Beast Similar To Red Harlow In His Younger Days I Can Easily Agree That He Isn't Red Harlow Himself

[@CringeGamingOG]

He doesn’t even have the facial scars seen on Red Harlow. That alone should be enough to debunk this.

[@JackeyBoyyy]

I remember I was talking with someone about this in the comments of an other video, he tried to argue that scars heal over time. to an extent he is right, they fade over time (at least that is what google says) but those giant scars across his face would still be noticeable even after 50/60 years.

[@CringeGamingOG]

@@JackeyBoyyy yeah, you can even tell that they were pretty deep by the shape alone. I have a scar above my eyebrow from when I was 5 and I split my head open and it’s still there. It’s been 17 years since I got it.

[@genevievesweet7741]

@@CringeGamingOG In fairness, Uncle would have over 40 years to heal, as well as RDR2 is around the time that scar repairing had hit it's groove.

[@JackeyBoyyy]

@@genevievesweet7741 tf you mean by "scar reparing had hit it's groove"

[@datsapaddlin]

Red also acts nothing like Uncle and was never interested in being a criminal. He didn’t even care about money to that extent.

[@hoseamathews115]

I can't believe the amount of arguments I've seen over this. Uncle doesn't even have the Scorpion Revolver. Kinda hard to believe he'd lose his father's revolver after all he's been through.

[@Scrimblytimblo]

Later in that article or a separate one I think they stated something along the lines of the “. Red Dead Revolver is also its own universe, but the world of Red Dead Redemption was always meant to be a world in which the myths and realities of the American frontier collide” meaning aspects of both CAN collide RED HARLOW being a possible example

[@zonkers.]

i wouldnt doubt it man

[@JackeyBoyyy]

Now that is REALLY stretching the fan fiction. Also the fact you couldn't even quote it word for word makes me suspect highly that this is some sort of fairy tale.

[@wooblydooblygod3857]

I think red is just a legend in the universe

[@genevievesweet7741]

@@JackeyBoyyy "The Undead Nightmare story takes place during the "home" period of the main game, while John is trying to rebuild his ranch but before the end of the game--a period that we imagined took several months. (If you've played the game to the end, please don't put spoilers in the comments.) You play Undead Nightmare as John, and it is an entirely stand-alone game that runs separately from Red Dead Redemption's main story and not part of any Red Dead Redemption canon, if such a thing exists. Red Dead Revolver is also its own universe, but the world of Red Dead Redemption was always meant to be a world in which the myths and realities of the American frontier collide. As for whether it's literally a nightmare or not--you are going to have to play the game and find out for yourself." From Dan Houser

[@JackeyBoyyy]

​@@genevievesweet7741 When dan houser said that, I would say it is safe to say he was talking about the unicorns, big foot, zombies and whatever mythical creatures spawn in RDUN. Not to mention that whole quote is mostly only referring to undead nightmare, meaning that the quote is completely irrelevant and mostly taken out of context espically when we're talking about red harlow.

[@donttreadonme123]

Counter argument, uncle is red Harlow 🍷🗿

[@ulla__britta]

Agreed

[@Alright9871]

Disagree

[@Myers-Editzzz]

⁠Agree

[@Real_L.G]

Look I love Uncle too, but saying that he is Red Harlow ISN'T going to make him Red Harlow.

[@datsapaddlin]

Red would put a bullet in his skull if he turned into Uncle 😂

[@hyperscepthical-end]

5:09 this one part is defiantly not true, Red Dead Revolver is in the same universe as rdr2, it just takes place in 1886, and rdr2 takes place in the end of the century, 1899-1907. But you can come across someone camping and if you talk with him, he brings up and I LITERALLY STATE, he says: “My brother’s dead, but he used to tell me stories about *Red Harlow.* the man who watches his parents get murdered right in front of him?” Edit: Ok, this came up later in the video, but I didn’t watch that part yet, sorry 😅

[@StefanWinchester]

I believe uncle is the man who inspired the story of red Harlow since I also believe red Harlow is a legend in the rdr universe.

[@wrathsreign7227]

What if... Landon Ricketts is actually Red Harlow, and after the events of red revolver he changed his name so the government couldn't find him. And then we meet him in rdr. Not to mention his past is sort of a mystery 🤔 just a what if

[@JennyCuntballs]

Would be cool tbh, sad the voice actor passed before RDR2 because I think he could've had a decent role in that game too

[@madmannn9576]

Red Harlow isnt a criminal tho

[@mannimelen]

​@@madmannn9576 I might be wrong, but I don't think Ricketts was an outlaw himself either

[@JackycakesV2]

Landon ricketts was still an active gunslinger till like 1902 lmao. Not red. + he’s way too old

[@wrathsreign7227]

@JackycakesV2 I know that. My post was a what if sorta like wait what! Kind of mystery reveal. And I think that would have been cool to tie in red dead revolver to the red dead redemption universe. Because as we all know rockstar already came out and said revolver and redemption are not in the same universe

[@SonicChaocc]

I like to imagine Uncle being a badass before RDR2. Hopefully we'd get a prequel (to a prequel) that is about Uncle's past Imagine at the end of that game Uncle's wife gets murdered by the big bad guy which leads to him killing him in revenge. Then after the game he just becomes a drunk. Or he has always been uncle like we knew him who knows

[@erikjohnson2885]

I would say that Uncle is and also is not Red Harlow, as an example (Spoilers for jo jo part 6) Irene is the equivalent of Joylene they aren't the same person but they are the universal equivalent of them or reference to them.

[@JackeyBoyyy]

I would say that uncle is 100% not red harlow, as an example (Spoilers for gamespot interview) the former vice president of R* games confirmed they aren't the same person but they do live in the same universe.

[@poptartninja]

i am still in denial after reading stone ocean

[@erikjohnson2885]

@@poptartninja Big sad.....

[@muslimgangvlogs6042]

4:34 what is uncle doing😳

[@erickvz5769]

Proudly showing his lumbago

[@muslimgangvlogs6042]

@@erickvz5769 💀💀

[@leidra2733]

What if uncle is red harlow of the red dead redemption universe and not red dead revolvers???

[@BryanFury-mi6eh]

No not a multiverse there too 😫

[@alexcallan07]

@@BryanFury-mi6eh red dead redemption and revolver were confirmed to take place in different universes by rockstar so it could be possible

[@hylandhistories4140]

It is possible that red dead revolver with its heavy emphasis on the mystical was a mythologized version of a real gunslinger. A myth originated by uncle about his own life that got romanticized with each telling by him or anyone else.

[@KC.45]

If it is possible, then when in the game can we encounter Uncle telling Red Dead Revolver's narrative?

[@SuperiorUncleGrandpaOfMadness]

@@KC.45 It's not that he tells the story, it is that a lot of details line up. The 2 universes are connected. Red Harlow is a "Myth" in Red Dead Redemptions world. The campfire stories you here are exaggerated stories of a bounty hunter. Most myths find their basis in truth and fact. Red Harlow and the RD Revolver game are connected to the RD Redemption games, but the story of Harlow is either made up, or greatly exaggerated. As for Uncle being Red. The Original Revolver game was being told by someone, not Uncle, but someone who likely did know the truth or had actually encountered Harlow. This means that all of Harlow's details and dates could be misconstrued, which means that no matter what anyone "Proves" is not actual proof. All of the information is being presented by different people and that easily explains a lot of shit. Hell, Harlow might not have had any scars at all in the "True Tail", he could have been a drunken douchebag out for revenge, who then wrinkled up and became what Uncle is when we meet him. A wrinkled up, giddy old man, who barely remembers what is true and what isn't, with a bad drinking problem due to ptsd and years of torment in the wild west. Red Harlow could have been downright insane for all we know, maybe his "Bounties" were just his murder victims due to delirium. The simple fact is, we do NOT know. We will likely never truly know. Even Rockstar might not be sure if they consider Red and his game "True". But in the end, everything is close enough with enough connections for Uncle to be Red Harlow.

[@bashainnitbruv]

Great video Iv subscribed keep it up bro

[@KaitouKaiju]

Red Harlow is the fictionalized version of John as written by Jack

[@zonkers.]

doubt it, Red is brought up by random people in camps while talking to john. if what you're saying was true, then it would be breaking the 4th wall in all the wrong ways

[@KaitouKaiju]

@@zonkers. In GTAV you can find an easter egg, a book called Red Dead written by J Marston. Redemption games are confirmed a separate universe and in those games they treat Red like a folk tale

[@acanthaceae7896]

@@KaitouKaiju still dont believe it as down in the bookshelf you can find a book made by H.Potter so unless its just refference i doubt there is a harry potger

[@Shadydoesit]

6:00 Correct me if I'm wrong, but red harlows home isn't in the original red dead redemption, instead there is just an abandoned brick house falling apart at two crows. I looked all over and could not find it.

[@Dr.Anarchy97]

It doesn't take a science major to see that Uncle is not Red Harlow. They're each other's opposite in every way.

[@roachdoggjr8399]

The amount of people who genuinely believe it and treat it as gospel constantly spewing it is beyond annoying

[@jonboner2987]

Nah, you are just a pussy for getting annoyed by their imagination. The video game timeline for this game is meant to have imagination by the player, so it's totally justifiable why they dwell into this lore of Uncle being Red.

[@justaayan2]

Calm down its just fun to think about

[@KC.45]

​@@jonboner2987 *The timeline of the Red Dead REDEMPTION games. Revolver is not a part of it.

[@jonboner2987]

@@KC.45 Again, that is the official canon explanation, but the viewer of an art can eventually see new perspectives of the painting. You must free your mind from these strict boundaries and guidances if you want to see the full picture my friend.

[@Whocares158]

I agree. It really is annoying.

[@satherandfon_poetry7090]

Although a lot of evidence points to uncle not being red Harlow. I still love the idea and theory that this wacky old man once upon a time was a badass gunslinger, until eventually time caught up with him.

[@JackeyBoyyy]

But, unlucky for you that isn't the case.

[@Maxhydrom1864]

@@JackeyBoyyy ok shush now

[@channel45853]

​@@JackeyBoyyy are you just a massive blowhard on the internet, or in real life too?

[@SuperiorUncleGrandpaOfMadness]

@@JackeyBoyyy You. You are an aggravating little girl.

[@Waterlord13]

I just don’t get how red would go from a bounty hunter to a outlaw

[@samson0wns]

It would be funny as hell if uncle is technically Red Harlow but Red is just the stories of uncle that overtime became a legend

[@J2thaAMES1]

Was the man who said he saw Annie Stokes just lying about it? He details the bull riding mission pretty accurately, even talks about her rifle. Also, I dont think the Harlow's had a slave lady like the skeleton attached to the churn at Two Crows in Redemption. Also, why only a single grave? I see two plaques there but still. Also, a cross? I dont think the Harlow's were catholic. Falling Star for sure wasnt, Red doesnt have, mention or practice a religion.

[@oliverpony]

2 crows is not Red's house I think it was just a Nod by Rockstar The layout is different and I don't believe the Harlow's owned a donkey woman

[@LocalBoyy]

It’s so obvious he’s not Red is ridiculous people think he is. Is his hand burned? No. Case closed

[@tlivelife_waag1150]

No they are not... Rdr2 plays on 1899. Uncle is 61 years old in rdr2. Red Hawlow is on his young 20's in Read Dead Revolver. Red Dead Revolver plays during the 1880's...

[@SuperiorUncleGrandpaOfMadness]

Red Harlow's story is being told by a sherrif. Details can be fucked up. Why is that so hard to understand?

[@datsapaddlin]

Given how he’s portrayed in Red Dead Revolver Red would never have joined up with bunch of murderous criminals to begin with. He hunted those types down.

[@JRMAV1]

Red Harlow was born in the south, Uncle was born in Ohio. End of the theory.

[@huytranasd]

i hope there will be a RDR 4 or 5 where we can play young uncle and feel more bad-ass about him. We may not make fun of his lumbago anymore

[@captainhostile101]

Hold on why would the developers say they don't take place in the same universe, and then mention his name in both of their red dead games? What?

[@vbnotmonky4943]

There is a song on rdr2 called “Red” and in that song someone says how that love Red and that he is a good son

[@jirden]

Never understood why anyone thought this theory was true. Five seconds of using your brain should be enough to debunk the theory.

[@Exiled_King95]

Even if red dead revolver was kind of based on the actual redemption series definitely one character in particular some exist which would be Annie Stokes bonnie Mcfarland is too heavily based on her. other characters including some of the weird bosses like pig Josh or the guy who has a coffin with a gatling gun inside would also fit in the same area of none existing characters.

[@CDTyphol]

How could Revolver be based on Redemption if Revolver was the first in the franchise and Redemption wasn't even out then?

[@21stCenturyNabokov]

Personally, I just can't see Red Harlow becoming a outlaw since Red decided to become a Bounty Hunter to fight against outlaws like the ones who killed his parents. Him joining the Van Der Linde gang is definitely out of character for Red Harlow

[@Clowningnet]

i went to Red's childhood home as red in red dead redemption 2 online

[@CDTyphol]

How were you Red Harlow in RDR2O?

[@johnschuch7090]

Here’s how I see it. I think they take place in the same universe red dead revolver takes place in 1886 and then red dead redemption 2 Takes in 1899 and red dead redemption takes place in 1911 red Harlow kills the man who killed his father never to be seen again. There is a little evidence of him being Uncle from red dead redemption, two and red dead redemption, but I don’t think it’s true but I do think the one shot kid was a real person but not red Harlow but Uncle but I do think the story is in the same universe and is real .

[@SpinoEditz1224]

The problem with your theory is that Rockstar confirmed there diff universes

[@johnschuch7090]

@@SpinoEditz1224 so they can’t say that nobody cares. Why can’t we just say it is they just bought the rights they didn’t create the game. It was already made. They bought the right and revive the game.

[@SpinoEditz1224]

@johnschuch7090 Rockstar owns the rights to it whatever they say is canon

[@SuperiorUncleGrandpaOfMadness]

@@SpinoEditz1224 Oh my... dude. It is obvious what the truth is in that regard. The 2 universes are connected. Red Harlow is a "Myth" in Red Dead Redemptions world. The campfire stories you here are exaggerated stories of a bounty hunter. Most myths find their basis in truth and fact. Red Harlow and the RD Revolver game are connected to the RD Redemption games, but the story of Harlow is either made up, or greatly exaggerated.

[@timetotravel2624]

Greatest gun slinger, almost cooked alive in red dead redemption 2! He could have saved himself if he was the Red Harlow.

[@Puppy_Puppington]

4:35 lmfao 😂 you can see all his lumbago showing

[@Garfunkle77]

what if uncle is not red harlow but red harlow is uncle🤯

[@batslug23]

There is so much evidence that uncle’s red Harlow I can’t ignore saying yes on this one

[@danedunford7250]

My opinion is they should remake the game red Harlow from back then to this year. They should make it again with better images like rdr 2. I know we all liked it back then for play station 2 from are child hood. But would it be great if rockstar brought red Harlow game out and turn it into the same game but with it looking like rdr 2 images

[@2k10yt]

how do you only have 350 subs??? this is better than many channels with over a million subs

[@rdclips3647]

He’s got 1000 now

[@SmellsLikeRacing]

Uncle just cos-plays famous fictional gunslinger. Similar locations with different names is not a proof, Red Dead Redemption locations are also based on real location of our world, but different names - that's normal for fictional stories, to have some connection to world they exist.

[@DannyMorrs]

I would love it if Uncle is actually just grifting on Red Harlows story, and trying to take some of those old stories as his own

[@madhatter2705]

maybe we will see red harlow in rdr3 if rdr3 takes place before rdr2

[@Airfryer208]

would be cool if they completely re made red dead revolver

[@JackeyBoyyy]

maybe if RDR3 is set in the universe of red dead revolver. But I doubt they'd do that.

[@F-111Aardvark]

I dont see how a legendary bounty hunter could just fall in with a outlaw gang and rob and kill people after all he did

[@SuperiorUncleGrandpaOfMadness]

The Original Revolver game was being told by someone, not Uncle, but someone who likely did know the truth or had actually encountered Harlow. This means that all of Harlow's details and dates could be misconstrued, which means that no matter what anyone "Proves" is not actual proof. All of the information is being presented by different people and that easily explains a lot of shit. Hell, Harlow might not have had any scars at all in the "True Tail", he could have been a drunken douchebag out for revenge, who then wrinkled up and became what Uncle is when we meet him. A wrinkled up, giddy old man, who barely remembers what is true and what isn't, with a bad drinking problem due to ptsd and years of torment in the wild west. Red Harlow could have been downright insane for all we know, maybe his "Bounties" were just his murder victims due to delirium. The simple fact is, we do NOT know. We will likely never truly know. Even Rockstar might not be sure if they consider Red and his game "True". But in the end, everything is close enough with enough connections for Uncle to be Red Harlow.

[@spideyfan6296]

I never thought for a second Uncle is Red Harlow. The ages do not match, also their personalities are completely different. Plus it wouldn't make sense for Red's character, his family was murdered by a gang, so why would he join a gang that kills a bunch of innocent people. Cause when they're doing robbery's and when police and law show up they kill them, they're just following the law and doing the right thing and try to bring them in. Those law enforcement officers are trying to bring bad folk in, and they get killed for it. Their kids left without father's, so why would he join a gang that inflicts the same pain and trauma he went through onto other innocent people? He hates gangs and criminals, he became a bounty hunter to bring them to justice and kill them, as Red Harlow even said himself. "It never was about the money." Also another reason why the ages don't match, is because Red Harlow was in his early to mid 20s during Red Dead Revolver, which takes place in the mid 1880s. Meanwhile Uncle is in his 50s by 1899, also it would be really sad and depressing to see a badass become such a Buffon and joke of a person.

[@szveszs]

Jack is personification of the Red Harlow

[@I_JetFuture_I]

I honestly don't think Uncle is Red, but I did enjoy this video. Good job

[@Adiddy927]

If uncle have the scars on his face he is red Harlow. But no scars on the face just an old man with lumbago

[@venvex429]

Red Harlow in RDR 1&2 are just easter eggs to Red Dead Revolver as that game inspired this new 2 series.

[@tlpz3872]

If red Harlow was alive in rdr2 wouldn’t he be a legendary gun slinger in the Noblest of men and women side mission?

[@cannellonio4416]

If uncle was red Harlow then that means he would've been in all the red dead games

[@perc_coyote]

i know uncle isn’t red but i like to imagine he is since he’s some lazy old man who used to be one of the most notorious bounty hunters

[@CrungleFunk]

I think Rockstar really missed a great opportunity with this one. I love the idea of Red Harlow just being a total loser but managing to fail upwards.

[@frankcastle8397]

@zonkers. Red Dead Revolver is set in 1888 or 1889. Red Harlow was born in the 1860s. Uncle was born in 1849. Red Harlow's parents were killed in the 1870s. Uncle lost his parents when he was 9 years old. Uncle was caught by the Skinners Brothers he was tortured and that explains the scars on Uncle's face.

[@thebrittaniondragon6183]

I can see why the Uncle theory is so popular and the one time uncle calls out Duch with him wating to be king, Uncle calls out Dutch / Hidden Dialogue / RDR2 Cinematic (edit) but in my own opinion why would uncle once the Red Harlow who brought justice to outlaws become an outlaw himself, i now once upon a time The Vanderlin Gang "Shot people who needed shooting, helped people who needed helping" but robbing banks of small towns/farming communities which uncle organised Rhodes bank heist lets not forget, feels off to me IDK

[@inigknot101]

Could it not be possible that Uncle is still Red Harlow in the Redemption continuity, leaving room for minor changes in the backstory causing the inconsistencies that you pointed out in this video? If it's two different universes with both men being the same person, doesn't that leave room for changes in decision making resulting in the inconsistencies?

[@darkjester9140]

Unfortunately for you history will not see it that way - Darth Maul

[@gunnerweese]

I think the only reason Rockstar says the Uncle isn't Red Harlow is because Rockstar doesn't own the rights to Red Harlow, they have the rights to the game but they don't have the rights to the character because Red Dead Revolver wasn't originally owned by Rockstar.

[@JackeyBoyyy]

With just two google searches I found who owns the rights to red dead revolver and who developed red dead revolver. Take a wild stab in the dark at who owns the rights? if you buy the rights to something, you buy the rights to all of it. It would be fucking stupid if I spent thousands of dollars (if not more) on the rights of a game title, but then I couldn't use the characters. Let me just ask you one question. If Rockstar didn't own the rights to red dead revolver (or as you say, the rights to the character red harlow) then why haven't rockstar been sued yet by the people who "actually" (in quotations, because we already know who actually owns the rights) own the rights? I'll let you in on a secret. It's a trick question. Because as I already stated, no one else owns the rights, only rockstar do.

[@channel45853]

​@@JackeyBoyyy yes, because two Google searches from unknown sources make you smart and reliable? Try again.

[@Waxyyy]

I love to think they are the same person but it’s kinda obvious they’re not, just found ur channel I love to support smaller creators like me so I’ll subscribe

[@zonkers.]

YOO NO WAY! dude i actually saw your video about micah awhile back and thought it was a masterpiece! this means a whole lot man thank you for the kind words. we got even better videos in the works

[@Daublet07]

now the true question. was the stories being told about uncle but the sheriff change the name from Uncle to Red

[@m.amend27]

How Uncle Is Red Harlow: Red cloth Lumbago nerfed Uncle Slight Scars Is known as the one-shot kid RDR Community says Uncle is Red Harlow

[@Dem0VR]

This channel so underrated

[@DonnieDaniels]

I personally feel there are disagreements in Rockstar on how the the game fits; thus no consistent and concrete answer from the company. As for now, this is how I see it to make the most sense: Red Dead Revolver is a fictional story written and inspired by the people in the author's life that goes by the name Jack Marston. His father had similar scars and became a bounty hunter to save his family. Motivated by revenge and in need of training on how to kill, Jack became a bounty hunter to hunt down the government official that betrayed his father; just like Red. He always wanted to be a writer. After his vengeance was laid to rest, he found his purpose in writing.

[@JackeyBoyyy]

In my mind, the leader of the company/production (CEO, Founder or lead developer) should have the final say in what is cannon and what isn't cannon. To me that person is Dan Houser.

[@DonnieDaniels]

@@JackeyBoyyy Aaannddd he's gone.

[@KC.45]

​@@DonnieDaniels Like if that made much of a difference. Rockstar has already stated 4 times by now that Red Dead Revolver is not in any way, shape, or form connected to Red Dead Redemption. People just don't like reading.

[@dr.hugog.hackenbush9443]

All is possible with the proper application and amount of lumbago.

[@nickbuckley4371]

It still fun to think red dead revolver is uncles dream like red dead undead nightmare is Johns dream makes the most sense to me

[@KC.45]

Undead Nightmare is not a dream.

[@youtubeguy2k]

Come on man we all know uncle is Red Harlow they even nerfed him with LUMBEGOİOOO

[@RustyCog]

I wanna see red in rdr3 In some capacity, I don’t think he’s right as the protagonist but have him at least mentioned you know?

[@Bingchilling6]

i know uncle is not red harlow but part of me wants to say it is red harlow

[@zonkers.]

us too brotha

[@zackcampbell1346]

Couldn't Uncle just lie about his age I mean a difference of a few years is still believable

[@ravenger5672]

This, and the fact that the date he used for Red’s birthday isn’t canon. He just took a random birthday, someone randomly attatched to Red in the Made up Characters Wiki. If we’re actually going by the information given in Red Dead Revolver than there’d be no such specific date. There isn’t even a specific date for the games setting let alone a characters birthday. It seems kind of disingenuous to base half the video off of that.

[@Shashou1987]

I would like to add to this point by saying though Uncle ain't Harlow, he was the One shot kid. Becuase if you play the game, in the tournament there is a Character that is called the "One Shot Kid" ans he looked young. Similar Personality.

[@darckfantom7580]

I've never played any of the older red dead games so I wouldn't know I'm not even close to finishing red dead redemption 2 yet its mostly because before my parents didn't let me play the games because I was to young I'm almost 16 now

[@totallynotbruh1406]

If there's said red dead revolver isn't in the same universe the red Harlow for redemption is different in many ways AND UNCLE

[@Gearsolid48]

I like the idea that their the same for the sake of coolness

[@raes704]

The best of the sakes

[@valeria262]

It's only cool backwards not forwards, for everybody that played redemption first to go "ooh what if the lazy old guy was once a badass" cause nobody that played revolver wants the badass turned into some lazy loser

[@PihnOG]

I believe if Uncle was Red Harlow, he would have the same pistol as Red Harlow and if he were Red Harlow he would have the same scars

[@frankcastle8397]

Nah

[@JackeyBoyyy]

No matter how many videos we make, the fan fic nerds will always disagree.

[@Whocares158]

They always do.

[@Tsrashi]

Honestly I’m more inclined to believe that Landon Ricketts is Red. Makes more sense than the Uncle theory.

[@Cerberus589]

Landon Ricketts doesn’t have scars

[@hazemahmed3288]

Personally i think it's impossible for uncle to be red harlow cause 1. If red was rdr2 he'd be the main villain to the van der linde gang because his moral system. 2. There big difference in personality between the both how could a legendary bounty hunter with high honor becomes a gang member who steals rob and kill( i don't hate uncle , i just find impossible for him to be red harlow) 3. Uncle was born in 1849 in ohio while red Harlow was born in 1851 in new Austin both these two places are too far away from each other.

[@georgekhalifah9541]

One thing that would prove it once and for all is using mods to shave off uncle's beard showing the rest of the scars that red harllow had if they exist then the theory is true if not then it's horse shit

[@JackeyBoyyy]

Scars don't grow hair, So I think you'd notice the 5 bald patches stretching across both sides of his face. Plus one of the scars is on his nose so it wouldn't even be obscured by any facial hair at all.

[@thecowboy9698]

Of course Uncle wasn't Red Harlow, as if he were, terminal lumbago would have seen him and ran the other way.

[@JarlHæsting]

It would have been nice to see red dead revolver and rdr1 and 2 in the same timeline and uncle be red

[@non-canon7719]

I’ve always never liked this theory ever since I was told about it. Never made any sense in terms of timeline and character, Red would never settle down with the likes of the Van der Linde gang due to him taking down outlaws himself. And personality wise Red and Uncle are completely different, yeah people say that people change but this is a complete character shift. Realistically I feel like Red’s fate after the events of Revolver is most likely death from the government after his revenge on Governor Griffin.

[@JackeyBoyyy]

yeah it seems like anyone who wants this theory to be true just clutch desperatly to anything they can get their hands on and ignore all the obvious evidence pointing towards the facts.

[@shahnoorahmed1462]

The events of revolver being an exaggeration of the actual events could explain the dates not aligning well, This mean it's possible that Uncle is really Red Harlow

[@frankcastle8397]

Red Harlow is not Uncle.

[@shahnoorahmed1462]

@@frankcastle8397 why does everybody just say "he ain't uncle" instead of presenting some actual decent points for why not aside from the timeline differences which my theory above explains can still be plausible

[@frankcastle8397]

​@@shahnoorahmed1462Red Dead Revolver is set in 1888 or 1889. Red Harlow was born in the 1860s. Uncle was born in 1849. Red Harlow's parents were killed in the 1870s. Uncle lost his parents when he was 9 years old. Uncle was caught by the Skinners Brothers he was tortured and that explains the scars on Uncle's face.

[@shahnoorahmed1462]

@@frankcastle8397 this doesn't refute my theory at all, only further solidifies it's likelihood

[@frankcastle8397]

​@@shahnoorahmed1462You don't understand Red Dead.

[@feiwnakausvkaxbdkebkswowbq8331]

A lot of people come to two assumptions of Red Harlow *A* He’s Uncle and the story of Red Harlow is just more overhyped, which to me isn’t plausible because Uncle isn’t a Native American and has no scars like Red Harlow does. Also his personality doesn’t match Red Harlow. *B* He’s just a legend or an ordinary bounty hunter who became a legend because the story slowly became overhyped. This is sorta plausible but also not. There are tons of insane characters in Red Dead Revolver like that casket man or the guy with a straight up cannon on his arm. But I think these characters are real but the way they look is overhyped and not real but the people they were were not. There probably was a psycho who ambushed Red Harlow in the graveyard but he didn’t have a straight up casket on his back. That soldier with the cannon arm did exist he’s mentioned in rdr2 as a soldier around the Native Americans vs Soldiers missions. And if you compare it to Arthur and John and the shit they’ve done it’s pretty much the same thing. Taking down whole armies, getting into bar fights, massacring enemies left and right. I’ll just say it’s cranked up to 11 but then again Red Harlow always worked alone so he had to be twice as fierce.

[@RILakeLife88]

This video is funny because the caption says the theory is debunked, then they give a ton of information confirming Uncle is Red Harlow hahaha

[@KC.45]

How did they confirm Uncle is Red Harlow?

[@frankcastle8397]

Red Dead Revolver is set in 1888 or 1889. Red Harlow was born in the 1860s. Uncle was born in 1849. Red Harlow's parents were killed in the 1870s. Uncle lost his parents when he was 9 years old. Uncle was caught by the Skinners Brothers he was tortured and that explains the scars on Uncle's face.

[@dominicuccello9832]

There’s no specific date they say he was born or exactly when the game even takes place so any argument made using his birth date as evidence doesn’t hold up

[@frankcastle8397]

Red Dead Revolver is set in 1888 or 1889. Red Harlow was born in the 1860s. Uncle was born in 1849. Red Harlow's parents were killed in the 1870s. Uncle lost his parents when he was 9 years old. Uncle was caught by the Skinners Brothers he was tortured and that explains the scars on Uncle's face.

[@jonathancox298]

What if Jack became a new version of red Harlow ?🤔🤠

[@KennstWohlKeinSarkasmus]

Uncle was born 1838. He would be 42 years old in 1880 so he can't be Red Harlow. It's easy because Red Harlow was in his early 30s

[@wildcate]

Uncle was born in Fall 1849. Red's exact date of birth is unknown, but he was definitely 26 years old at the time of the events of Revolver (14 years in prologue and 12 years later after prologue), and if we accept the most generally accepted dates (1888 and 1880 respectively), he could have been born in 1862 or 1854. I'm not saying that Red is Uncle, just noted.

[@KennstWohlKeinSarkasmus]

@@wildcate that's not correct what Wikipedia tells you. Read it on the origin web site from rdr

[@KC.45]

​@@KennstWohlKeinSarkasmusYou made that up.

[@IAMBRAIN]

Ain't uncle too old to be red harlow?

[@TOFKAS01]

Yes, Red would be about the same age as Dutch or Hosea.

[@SuperiorUncleGrandpaOfMadness]

@@TOFKAS01 My best friends dad is 50 and looks about 68 due to alcohol.

[@SuperiorUncleGrandpaOfMadness]

@@TOFKAS01 who are both in their late 40's to late 50's. The age isn't that far off that details TOLD BY SOMEONE WHO ISN'T RED HARLOW, could have been misconstrued. How is everyone forgetting that Harlow killed a Governor, A GOVERNOR, by the end of Revolver? You realize he would have to change all the deets and come up with a new background to stay hidden after such a murder, right? As for the personality difference and the alcoholism, look at what harlow went through according to the sherrif who told his story. That is enough to drive any man to drink... heavily.

[@floydlawton9152]

Played rdr as a kid, great times

[@floydlawton9152]

Revolver^*

[@JackeyBoyyy]

@@floydlawton9152 RDR could stand for Red Dead Revolver

[@SinsiMonkey]

red Harlow is a Native American that's why it's not uncle and I wonder if he s alive in 1899

[@Averagegamer673]

Uncle is not red harlow Infact you can tell that by john in rdr1 and rdr2, he is the son of red harlow you can tell this by the hat and the conversation him and jack had in epilogue say his dad died at 7 years old All 3 games red john jack share the same hat regardless of what we think or say the hats are the same and plus seeing red being a damn good shot would play into the fact he was a bounty hunter and taught john to shoot and john did the same because he was a damn good shot and ended up being a bounty hunter and this is wrapped into jack being a good shot and ended up being a bounty hunter