Why Used Tesla Cars Are SO CHEAP Right Now... | Tavarish

[@sasukesuite1]

Cars are not investments. You buy a car for the same reason you go on a vacation: to lose money, but enjoy your experience.

[@krazy2094]

I go on holidays to find me a wifey x2 👯‍♀️💯😛

[@benjaminbradley8197]

Thank you 🎉

[@mastodon5220]

they are , just buy the right ones :)

[@8.o.8]

Invest in cars after you’re bored of investing in real estate or other more easy to manage assets

[@untouchable360x]

Cars are like cocaine for me. Expensive but worth it.

[@Michaellezcano-d7h]

Teslas are those prices because their warranty is 8 year or 120,000. 2016 is at that 8 year mark so if something goes wrong with the high voltage battery, you will be charge 22k for a new battery. Coming from a Tesla Model S owner that it happened too

[@figurespeech101]

if you go to an independent garage they can swap out individual modules and complements, making a repair much cheaper, but I am really sorry that happened to you, that sucks man

[@kawkasaurous]

Yeah got mine fixed for 6k.

[@greganderson6145]

It's obvious this guy is trying a high buck resale Teslas he must have been a crypto guy made millions off telling you guys to buy it. Buy it. Buy now. Buy now 80% of these KZbinrs are con artists get Nft's He probably has Tesla stock. Oh no I'm losing money

[@uakram0690]

@@kawkasaurouswhere did you get yours fixed? I’m in NYC/NJ area

[@josearias2671]

No. It’s because it’s a piece of crap. Because all the new Teslas are losing their value just as fast

[@ScottyLo]

We just purchased a 2021 model 3 long range AWD. This car is amazing. I’m 59 and I’ve never experienced instant acceleration like that in my life. The technology is endless and the car just works. You have to drive one to understand it. I still love combustion engines and loud muscle cars and lifted trucks but I can’t hate on EV’s

[@tom_from_myspace]

Don’t say that people here will hate you for loving them lol

[@oranbooker1356]

EV's are great and are the future. Very very low maintenance

[@doublem6027]

Sell out

[@losodinero]

I love mine!!

[@m73jaredII]

@@doublem6027you’ll be ok

[@maxvel7157]

Only non-car ppl consider 80-90k to be high mileage

[@katherinelangford981]

Sitting at 125,000 miles myself right now. Most I own go to 225,000+ before I sell to toss. I agree, 80,000 miles is not high mileage.

[@ryanpetree6475]

Have you seen the well laid out service manuals online for Teslas? I actually don't mind getting a cheap high mileage (160k) Tesla. Im looking at several right now. May pull the trigger soon! Good used Batteries are down in the $5k range for worst case scenario. Its hard to get a good gas engine swapped at that price.

[@Littlesuzieofficial18]

Depends on the car

[@Littlesuzieofficial18]

If you can wrench yourself or have a hookup with mechanics, sure but if you have no idea and say it’s a Range Rover 😂

[@HermanWillems]

@@ryanpetree6475 What service lol. Replacing interior filter? Replacing Tires? Checking your brake fluid. Replacing wipers and wiper fluid. That's it.

[@Y33HawGamer]

I got a 2023 model 3 for $20k. I got it from hertz when they did the mass selling of them

[@HermanWillems]

A second hand Tesla model 3 / Y is very good for your wallet. Even a new one is good for your Total Cost of Ownership. A second hand certainly. I bought one for 40K though and yes its depreciating fast. I rather could have waited a year and bought one but... i just keep it and drive it to the ground. THen its still the cheapest car i ever owned.

[@Y33HawGamer]

@@HermanWillems yea can’t beat a $20k electric car with full self driving.

[@HermanWillems]

@@Y33HawGamer Oh damn you even got full self driving option on it? Its worth nothing here in Europe though but could be. :) great

[@wumia]

I'm seriously considering getting one from Hertz. The one I'm looking at is a 2023 model 3 base version with 85k miles for $18,833. Is it worth it? How's your car going so far?

[@dct124]

Good deal. Hopefully you get the battery replaced under warranty. $25k or under to replace them.

[@brockvanleer1010]

the prices for used teslas are low cause there is still a 4k used ev tax credit for american built ev’s sold for under 25k at dealerships. pretty much all dealers list the cars online at the price “with 4k rebate included” that’s not the actual price they’re selling for retail. but if the car and you qualify there’s insane deals to be made. i bought a ‘19 model 3 dual motor long range as a secondary work car for about 15,9 after 4k incentive.

[@anekinoo7]

Used telsa have low demand. If a car is popular and in demand it depreciates less. People/car dealers are dropping price cus no one wants them. Thats why your telsa is under $20k. Thats 50% depreciation in 5 years. Most cars are not losing 50% in value in 5yrs.

[@ithomas101]

SO TRUE.

[@iamchaunceman]

The rare cheat code for a win in consumers VS THE man.

[@dinodemko209]

Only qualify for credit if you make 75k or under.

[@Areku06]

That’s right, a lot of dealers scamming people with EV rebate, because not everyone qualifies.

[@aaammm1033]

I am a mechanic waiting to find a tesla with a bad battery that I can fix up for cheap. I guess that is not realistic since they rarely go bad. Luckily I might not have to do that at these prices. I love driving the evs since they are like go carts and cost way less as a daily driver over my f-350. Also we must keep diesels alive as they are my biggest money maker! When a diesel truck come into the shop the customers bill can easily be over 10k!

[@geoffl]

you should pivot your shop to evs asap. EVs will continue taking market share since their performance/price will keep improving.

[@Json918]

My 2024 model 3 performance is so fun day to day where it matters and love that it doesn't attract unwanted attention unlike my c8 where I have to keep my head on a swivel.

[@Inferno45]

“Boo hoo my corvette attracts attention😢”….. first world problems

[@michaellee7841]

@@Inferno45 Yup it's nice to have them. Too bad you will never know!

[@Inferno45]

@@michaellee7841 keep d-riding and see where that gets ya 😂

[@michaellee7841]

@@Inferno45 Sorry your life sucks so much. Maybe, just maybe in next life…

[@ivormectin515]

As an owner of an Ariel Atom and numerous motorcycles I think I’m fairly familiar with the enjoyment of owning exciting ICE vehicles. Equally, my daily driver is a Model 3, which is equally exciting in some ways. The fundamental difference is that the ICE vehicles I own are strictly for track use, as that is the most appropriate place for driving/riding them in the manner for which they were designed. For responsible daily driving the Tesla can’t be beaten. For track use, not so much.

[@mikeni1225]

Manually switching gears, rev match, blip, e-brake, loud revs are all amazing inputs that is totally fun. But you can also appreciate EVs, 1.) no exhaust fumes 2.) flooring it off a redlight without any sound warnings to nearby cars 3.) cheap as hell with home charger 4.) amazing user experience in software and keyless. 5.) switching in and out of FSD because you know the software so well, you know when to take over. Teslas are just the best daily / city cars currently. Get a track car for the track, and a hybrid SUV for long distance trips.

[@HermanWillems]

@@tldrinfographics5769 I love fast ICE cars, i had sport cars myself as well in the past. I think this is it. EV's outperform regular daily drive cars so much. I don't understand why would you ever buy a combustion engine car for your daily driving. It's just dumb, but yeah V6 V8 i still love and i think also that ICE belongs on the track.

[@falsedragon33]

Our new society of tribalism the news media created its getting old, isn't it? I also own both, and one doesn't have anything to do with the other, although they serve common purposes. I don't throw out my flat head screw driver because I needed a Philips that day.

[@Techridr]

Model 3 owner here too, but I have to ask: Which iteration of the Ariel Atom do you have? Even the early ones were amazing, but they just got better and better! It's probably one of my favorite cars.

[@ivormectin515]

@@Techridr a Series 2 (2006). The first series with the Honda VTech motor

[@batsonelectronics]

I have owned a bunch of normal people sports cars. The fastest being corvettes and a 1st gen Viper. I loved the 94 and 95 corvettes the most because they were good HP, handled really well, rode good enough to take on a 6+ hour trip, and quiet enough to rip it off the line but not sound like it. I love music when I drive, it sounds so much better in any car that doesn't make a bunch of engine noises. Musk cutting prices on new cars is also driving down the value of used ones. I bought a used car in January and would have gotten an EV but they cost too much for me.

[@halkon4412]

1:40 Did anyone else catch how little sense this made? If new EVs in particular are becoming less desirable, the used EV market should have a lower supply, which would *increase* prices, not lower them.

[@RIVvideos]

yeah I thought that too

[@wellselectric3221]

Prices will increase if the demand for used EVs is there. I bought a 200k mile f150, I wouldn't buy a 200k mile tesla anything unless it was dirt cheap.

[@falsedragon33]

No one wants to talk about the Elephant in the room. The never ending story called it the nothing. Chaos is resonating in humanity again. This one is going to be rough. Our grandchildren have a good chance of living in another dark age. Failing car prices, foreclosed houses, ramped mental disease, and enough cynicism to fill an ocean is nothing compared to the potential.

[@kylem324]

I think it’s somewhat different than how you’ve framed it. The new and used markets are different markets with different consumers (often, not always) with different decision making chains. So a prospective consumer who would otherwise buy a new car isn’t looking at the purchase decision as new or used. Just as a used car buyer isn’t a new car buyer. (Maybe because of unaffordability, but just as plausible is they simply don’t care to put that much capital into a depreciating asset. Like if your fridge died and you needed to get a new one, if you’re the average consumer, do you go out and get the best one, or the one at the top of your budget, or the one that will do the job and meet your aesthetic? Aside from incentives changing, there are multiple other potential factors. EVs are an emerging tech where the product life cycle isn’t fully known or analogous to an ICE car. You can look at an ICE car and have a better understanding of what it will take to keep it on the road for a long period of time. There’s plenty of shops and parts stores to keep them on the road. There are fewer EV techs. Charging infrastructure isn’t great yet. And how economical are they to keep on the road for 10, 20, 30 years? The prospect of having to replace a battery pack is a serious consideration. And modern cars having so much tech as UI is cool now, but using old tech isn’t. In fact it’s painful. Further, things like battery chemistry are likely to be completely different within five years, and that could render all current EVs obsolete and worthless. The other factor is that residuals for your average EV right now are terrible. Buying one, you stand to lose more money. Not many people want to stand in that line. With Teslas specifically, the points of detraction are they are on average more expensive to insure and more expensive and take longer to repair if they aren’t totalled because of how they designed. (Having to replace a gigacasting frame and a battery pack because of minor damage is a design that doesn’t fully understand the full life cycle of a car. With EVs being emerging tech, they conform to the innovation adoption curve. Adoption happens in phases. It’s still the early adoption phase, and that market might be saturated. EVs don’t always make economic sense. If you drive a lot of miles every year, the savings can add up. But if you have a reliable ICE car it might not. For two cars for the last two years for me, fuel and maintenance has been maybe $2k. An EV would only save hundreds but cost more in depreciation. With a higher capital cost. My advice to friends and family is to buy the nicest Lexus with reasonable mileage for $10k you can find, and as long as you keep up with the maintenance you should have many years of relatively cheap and trouble free motoring.

[@kazienova]

It takes awhile for that effect. Ev were a high demand before so the market is filled with them now

[@S_Paoli]

I felt like a teenage boy again when I was walking around this CyberTruck in a Home Depot parking lot a couple of weeks ago. (FYI: I was a boy when Reagan was still the president) After a while, the owner came out and saw what I was doing. He was obviously used to people taking pictures of his awesome truck! I was kind of amused because he turned out to be 81 years old. After chatting with him for a couple of minutes, he asked me if I wanted to take a ride in it. My first thought was "do I go upstairs if Heidi Klum invites me upstairs at 11pm for coffee?" Of course I said YES! We drove around for a few minutes and it was an amazing experience. I was equally shocked when I found out that he paid over $100,000 for it. I wasn't really keeping up with CyberTruck news. I knew it wasn't cheap, but I thought it was more reasonable like $70k or even $80k. I couldn't help but wonder... if I do want to buy a $100k+ truck, do I really want the CyberTruck? While it's fun, I probably won't ever buy one.

[@iamchaunceman]

In 5 years a two or three year old RWD cyber truck will be 30k, a AWD will be 35k. Wait until the market has plenty of used teslas and like we see today with the 3s and S models deals will be there for the taking.

[@ImSumWhatGood]

I recently bought a model 3 and asked about the cyber truck prices. The employees were saying this is like a limited edition version and that next year they plan to release a more reasonably priced one around 50-60

[@cadechong4059]

A big reason is because of the EV battery life. Most people use Tesla superchargers which when used all the time will deplete the life of the battery considerably.

[@igloozoo3771]

I don't see the point of buying Tesla if your only option is doing majority of charging at superchargers.

[@iBullyDemons]

That's a lie. The supercharges are the ones that are least likely to mess up your battery because that's what they were designed for.

[@cadechong4059]

@ exactly

[@mustangdaddy4125]

I just purchased a 2021 model S long range refresh a few weeks ago for 52,900 with 30,400 miles. It was a leased car from Tesla used car facility. Immaculate condition!😊 I saved 40 thousand bucks! My 2021 MYP i over paid when it was purchased new at 62,990 then Elon dropped the price by 8 thousand dollars the next few months 😮. I will just stay with used Tesla’s because of the cheaper prices.

[@WillProwse]

I love my teslas, i run 4 of them with offgrid solar

[@FatTracksMusic]

I love my teslas, I run 5 of them with off grid solar

[@WillProwse]

@@FatTracksMusic nice!!!

[@_IMNNO]

I like that EVs have commoditized easy skill level, reduced NVH, quick acceleration etc. When I want to do short trips / BS errands - I hop in my EV and don’t have to worry about long term engine wear. However, when I want to sizzle my fizzle and spice the mechanical appreciation side of my brain, I whip out my enthusiast ice vehicle of choice.

[@tmzz3609]

@@_IMNNO a new engine can be installed for a couple thousand........ A new Tesla battery installed costs more than a new Camry

[@_IMNNO]

@@tmzz3609 Welp not my engine - but for the mass majority yes. That’s why I did not mention the long term running costs as one of the EV benefits.

[@leod7824]

I love my Teslas , on my second one now a model Y , perfect commuter vehicle

[@brandonderrick006]

Plaid is an even deeper love. Do it lol

[@BryceLovesTech]

I love my Tesla Model S. I just hit 190,000 miles on the original battery still running strong. Don’t let the haters persuade you most of the people that don’t like EVs have never even owned one.

[@andrewwigham3026]

I got a Tesla Model 3 Long Range (0-60 in 3.8 seconds) for 20k GBP (so 25k USD) with only 48k miles on the clock - I had some new tyres put on it (as the garage I got it from put the wrong tyres on, so I went to Tesla, and the garage paid for it) they looked under my car as they initially couldn’t work out why it was misaligned - they said “Your car is in VERY good condition for being 4 years old” (as it’s a 2020 model 3) so it also looks like the guy who had it before me looked after it very well, the only thing I’ve seen is swirl marks on the paintwork from washing the car (which usually happens to all cars) and I absolutely love it, going from a Golf R to a Tesla Model 3, I don’t miss the engine at all. I genuinely think most of the hate comes from with EV’s is that people who drive normal cars are scared to take the plunge or just can’t afford to get the car + charger installed at their homes (I’m talking about average every day people who drive 1.2L - 2L cars with 0-60 times of 10-18 seconds who think they can mock a Tesla and tell you to ‘get an engine’ or ‘get a real car’ when in fact they don’t drive ‘real cars’ themselves) Legit I pulled into a car park to go to the shop and there was a group of boy racers in 1L Corsas, Polos, Fiestas, etc and they all started revving their 60-70bhp engines at me as if they were proving some sort of point… there was no point to prove, their cars can’t go quick on their best day - they act like they drive Lamborghinis or Ferraris, mocking the Tesla’s that absolutely smoke their little embarrassing shit boxes. Personally I think that comes down to jealousy. Most people will never own a car that does 0-60 in sub 4 seconds, they’d rather the millionaires keep that privilege in their sports cars while they drive sad, sluggish NA petrols and little turbo diesels and laugh at people who actually have cars capable of racing / keeping up with the wealthy.

[@Jrock4690]

I’ve driven/rented quite a few electric cars including most of the Tesla’s. Agree with the car enthusiast visceral perspective and that’s where the Hyundai Ionic 5N makes things more complicated. Drove one recently and the car does really good job of creating an enthusiasts experience with electronics. It was fun, fast, satisfying…but for $70k?

[@Matys1975]

Mark my words. The same thing that happened to mechanical ⚙️ watches when quartz watches came out will also happen to internal combustion cars: internal combustion cars will still exists but become much less common as luxury items for the connoisseurs

[@falsedragon33]

Great example! I remember when Casio had that tuning fork watch that NASA ended up using. Thing is still expensive, but in a collector way. Ended up being obsolete from a 50 cent crystal a few years later.

[@TheShowOff2I]

The Rich people will drive gas and the poor people will drive Electric cars

[@leos3003]

Yes, but how many years. You still need a shit load of infrastructure. The prices need to come down and a few other things. This will take at least 10 years. If you're 60, how old will you be when that happens?

[@brandonderrick006]

@@leos300310 years is a blink think bigger

[@SelvinMartin]

Because the same features the ev has, the gas cars are getting You cant even ref them due to limiters. You dont even need to start them anymore. Just foot on gas and go with stop start systems. So the only real difference is the fuel. And charging is just too annoying. I wish i could put gas in my phones 😂

[@SeanandBlanca]

My wife drives a Tesla model 3. We use it as a grocery getter - it’s not a real car. We just pile-on mileage and that’s what it was made for. 95,000 miles and we’ve never even changed the brakes! No fluids. No nothing. Just tires , washer fluid and that’s it. I drive a full size bronco. The issue with ev’s is they could last a lot longer that we think …. I think a model 3 for $20-25k is a smokin deal (for a grocery getter)

[@snusmumriken232]

How does what you described not count as a real car?

[@robtennapel78]

The best car I've ever driven is my Tesla Model 3. It's incredibly quiet, with exceptional power for an everyday vehicle, and its simplicity is one of its greatest strengths. After 250,000 km, the battery is still performing amazingly well-it's truly a dream car. I can’t stand noisy cars or supercars; they feel inefficient beyond belief. I love EVs for their affordability in terms of running costs and the lack of maintenance they require. It’s a game-changer.

[@okallup8012]

You lost me at noisy cars feel "inefficient beyond belief." If a toaster on wheels is your dream car, I just feel sorry for you at that point.

[@de_Wukong]

It’s not incredibly quiet. You get lot of Road noise, not enough boot space but i like the way it drives and it looks beautiful among all the Tesla

[@davidmarvy6788]

You're in an area where charging is never an issue. Tavares made a good point that people get anxiety about needing to find places to charge. It's not as easy as finding a gas station even in the best city with the most charging ports. If you can always charge at home that's a different story.

[@robtennapel78]

@@davidmarvy6788 time will take care of this. Exponential growth.

[@brandonderrick006]

Only the best car you’ve driven because you haven’t drove a higher end Tesla…

[@Cka93]

I bought a Tesla Model S 100D (2019) for 32k euros with 80k miles on it. It drives great, has lots of space, and requires low maintenance. I also have a charger in my garage with solar panels. I have nothing to complain about. I must say the infrastructure of the Netherlands is great for EVs; you can find chargers at almost every gas station and along the streets.

[@Techridr]

Car enthusiasts that care about track days and whatnot do NOT dictate the market. The reasons there are so many used Tesla's is because there have been a lot of aggressive incentives like $7500 tax breaks and sometimes .99% or 1.99% interest, it becomes very compelling to switch before you need to. Next is a lot of Lease returns as two and 3 year leases expire. Also fleets unloading cars as they do, and a biggie is the huge price reductions on Tesla's in 2023 ($13k for model Y) means a lot of people locked in a payment can move into a new Tesla and have lower monthly payment. These factors play a part in the market, not the buying habits of your idea of car enthusiasts. The general public do not buy cars for the reasons you do. There is a great quote from Anais Nin: "We Don’t See Things As They Are, We See Them As We Are"

[@doomsday9973]

Exactly, the “enthusiast” market is niche and does not dictate anything

[@Synchromesh123]

Actually the question was "why do car enthusiasts despise EVs?" And the answer Tavarish provided was spot on. I can attest to that as an enthusiast. Nobody said that enthusiasts dictate the market for EVs. Only time we dictate the market is with niche rides aimed squarely at us. Rest of the time, the automotive sheep rule the landscape because they're the majority buyers of appliances that make bulk of the market whether EV or ICE.

[@TheLilleyPad]

I got my first ev. I like how it glides on the road and darts around. I feel a lot of power on the road. I’m way more assertive and confident than I was with my gas car. I have a turbo gas powered car which I feel confident and in other words more comfortable being aggressive when I need to be. But with the EV the acceleration is incredible and the precision to make decisions in a split second gives me a sense of superiority over other vehicles on the road (which makes me laugh at the huge pickup truck drivers that try to assert their dominance). I am by no means that kind of person but I do understand the power that I have with my ev. It takes more responsibility to drive something with more power. And I don’t see that responsibility with many pickup truck drivers, that’s why I wanted to put that out there. Yeah, so if I want to squeeze into a spot I don’t have to think twice. It just goes there. No lag from the peddle to the engine or to a turbo. It just darts to that spot that I am looking at. It’s incredibly satisfying. So when I think about that raw animal taming feeling I just hop on a motorcycle. You don’t get that kind of feeling from a regular turbo gas car unless it’s maybe a sports car or muscle car. For me, I am bored of gas cars and motorcycles are the only thing that fulfills that excitement and adventure that I am looking for on the road. EVs have kind of rekindled my joy of driving as well by introducing a new kind of driving experience.

[@joekev27]

Who wants to buy a used battery.

[@TimeLagGaming]

Love how they’re just ignoring the fact that almost every Tesla under 20k is a re built title which means it can’t super charger at a fast rate because Tesla blacklists them due to safety concerns.

[@markaponte7057]

As a car enthusiast, I'm convinced that Evie's electric motors offer a driving experience that's just as satisfying, if not better, than traditional gas engines, especially when you factor in the incredible silence.

[@lgs6476]

Used Tesla prices are crashing due to fear about the battery degradation. If you need to replace one it's 20k+.

[@evgrid2628]

More like $ 30,000 by the time you include All miscellaneous parts and the ridiculous install fees. A person must be Crazy to by a used Tesla

[@TrestanSKYWALKR]

You are absolutely right. That’s why I only leased my Teslas. After a certain amount of time the battery will cost you. And it’s hard to get the value you want from it if you own it for about 7 years and try to sale it.

[@hrcummings1113]

They're throw away cars

[@surplusbargains]

More like 8-9k for a used new battery then you have a all new car… Car updates to give newest features and with a battery replacement it’s a new car

[@lukem5962]

@@surplusbargainswhere?

[@thewolfking5252]

Tesla sells expensive at first because they use the money to ramp up production and R&D to keep improving the car. They make the most of any car in the industry off every single car so they can play with the price. The car is essentially like an iPhone that can be upgraded so even the older Tesla are like new cars on the software side. They slowly start dropping the price once it reaches mass production. Tesla Model Y is the best selling car on Earth and the Cybertruck is already the best selling EV pickup truck so saying the market is dying is not true. Especially with China ramping up and US adding tariffs to stop the flow of EV into the US from China. Tesla has primarily built the entire infrastructure for EV since they were the ones to make EV viable. Selling old Tesla cheap helps Tesla develop the data to build The Robotaxi network. Basically at this point they’re printing money regardless of how much they sell Tesla cars for

[@AlecWyld]

Driving an EV is a different type of fun. It's an experience of its own. Its fast af, smooth, quiet, extremely responsive, futuristic, etc.

[@ChiRat22]

Electronics depreciate stupidly fast. Imagine all the people that died on a Black Friday sale trying to get their hands on a 30 dollar DVD Player. Now people in their 20s never had a DVD.

[@document6]

0:12 80,000-90,000 miles is indeed nothing for a tesla there are facebook groups for high-mileage teslas they last easily 6x that mileage ❤

[@de_Wukong]

Easily 😂😂😂

[@iamchaunceman]

Yeah even crazy Elon says 300k but I’ve seen more.

[@pyros4333]

Glad it's not high mileage that's bringing the price down 😅

[@Neojhun]

@@de_Wukong 90K Miles is just A FRACTION of the battery lifespan a well built well designed BEV. Model 3, Model S, Kona EV have all been recorded to do 200,000 kilometers with very little issues with the battery. But Model S is known to have Dirty Motor Internals and Suspension problems at those ages. Soo yeah Easily is mostly accurate.

[@DreamMaker_970]

I know three people who drive Teslas and they love them. They literally have nothing bad to say about the cars. I’m seriously considering buying a model 3 as a daily driver.

[@pauldkb1700]

I'm on my second Tesla Model 3, I had a beautiful black Audi A5 for years before, loved it and I was always getting compliments. The Tesla craps on it in pretty much every way. It's amazing looking, everytime I walk up to it the Tesla stands out in every parking lot. I pinch myself I have it not to mention the looks I'd be getting. Some hateful granted but often people come up and say beautiful car. It has pretty much a computer inside with fantastic surround sound that drives the car. Then.... I put the foot down and the buzz as it throws me down the road, if people are in it they all go omg, it's the best driving experience I've had by miles. Enhanced autopilot parks it, summons it, changes lane. I can't wait to get FSD when it's allowed in Ireland. As for it's no skill involved, going around a corner in a car with that acceleration is a whole other level of skill needed than any other car I've driven. It elevates your driving because you need fantastic control to keep it steady with just straight-line acceleration. I don't drive fast everywhere but when I am outside the city and I know its safe I have my fun whilst significantly improving my driving. It never fails to make me smile and give me that brilliant feeling. Charger at home so the most it's ever cost me to run has 40 a month and I've driven 25/30k km in 15 months of owning Teslas. I've saved thousands, I wouldn't dream of ever going back to ICE, I have my dream car from when I was 6 years old wanting to grow up fast so I could have my first car. I thought the A5 was my dream car, not even close. Sorry for my rant but saying there's no skill involved is crazy talk!

[@ben3308]

“These cars are like, bulletproof from my perspective” Graham should do more research on Tesla quality control.

[@Muffinman9]

Initial quality issues are common, but if you inspect your car when you get it and have them fix any issues, they're incredibly solid afterwards. The tech and ownership is amazing, but the initial "god i hope i get a good build" is not.

[@skillion88]

The main reason is that the prices of new ones are now getting so low - down to $35k - and in some states you can get as much as $12-15k in tax rebates. For those people it doesnt make sense to buy used.

[@YD-pl5rn]

It's a disposable car because of the cost of battery replacement.

[@AnonN-sr6uu]

ICE cars are disposable because of all the mechanical issues that can go wrong with having an engine that's made for a million tiny pieces.

[@YD-pl5rn]

@AnonN-sr6uu Correct, my 1999 Honda Accord is also disposable, still kicking after 300k+ miles with original engine and transmission.

[@doublem6027]

@@AnonN-sr6uua classic chevy blazer just sold for 260k +

[@ReeLSpirit]

@@YD-pl5rnTesla can last 300k+ miles too?

[@Neojhun]

@@YD-pl5rn "300k+ miles" I thought you were going to use some silly impressive number. BEVs do 300K miles also with not much fixes. It'll do way more miles if you spend a few thousand dollars on fixes. You clearly have no clue what you are talking about.

[@weich1q2w]

The reason why Tesla’s are going down in price is because Tesla keeps coming out with better and cheaper cars under the same name. The model S use to cost 120k-130k because it was so expensive to produce but now they can make the same model S but better (more range, features) for 80-85k. So in the used market you’ll see that 125k car lose 40-50k of value just based off that. Then add in dep from use and the used EV credit and you’ll get those big drop offs you see. However if you buy a new one now the depreciation curve should be more “normal” for a Tesla compared to other cars since they have scaled up. You’ll always see big drop offs but should get better and better. I’m buying a used Tesla for myself and then another for my mom. We are looking at 2-3 year old vehicle under 50k miles and leveraging the tax credit. Doing so I can get her into a model Y or 3 at the same cost basis as some other used ICE SUV that’s 9-10k cheaper and the Tesla will be over, quicker, more features and look far better.

[@SeanMcDonnell33]

underrated comment. where are you finding a model Y under $25k?

[@anekinoo7]

Its demand. Theres no demand for used telsas. So sellers have to keep dropping price. No difference from any car in the market. 2018 model 3 can be found for $15k. 6yr old car and lost over 50% of its value.

[@Hardy2608]

What's the best place to buy used Tesla? Thanks @@anekinoo7

[@weich1q2w]

@@SeanMcDonnell33 The cheapest ones are always in Cali, Florida and east coast. You can get them for around 50k miles if you are willing to travel to them and don't mind it being in a prior minor accident (so had paint damage/dents but they should be repaired if the dealership is honest). Otherwise without the accident and lower than 50k miles it'll be 28-31k from what I'm seeing unless you get a really aggressive dealer that comes down during negotiation.

[@paulwin9036]

Yeah, and i love it. I got a 2022 M3 LR for under 10k. I got it at 75k miles and just got to 90. The body had some damage, which is why it was so cheap, but I manaed to fix it up with bondo and paint correction. It's still noticeable but definently more than enough for a daily driver. Very happy with my purchase and will probably drive it until it falls apart. Though, used Model S Plaids under 50k miles are around 50k... Might trade it in in the future.

[@bullit199]

I think enthusiasts EVs like the Hyundai Ioniq 5 N have proven that they can be so fun and bridge the gap between giving you ICE vehicle vibes with paddle shifters and mimicking engine revs and redlining the engine. But Tavarish is right, a lot of factors are slowing adoption and perception. I’ve driven an ID.4 for over 3 years, great experience and now more oil changes!

[@CryptocurrencyTheory]

If you buy a Tesla out of warranty be prepared to spend money, a lot of money. People say they don’t break, that’s a bold faced lie. They are expensive, let me explain after owning for 5 years. Struts replacement 7,600usd All door handles broke, fixed them 2 broke again 1.5 years later $300 each Trunk replacement $250 repair broke 1.5 years latee Engine broke quoted. $9400usd after $850 diagnosis. Headlights balast $1700 , both went out Windshield crack $1200

[@davidrockefeller2007]

Man, that is the first time I’ve heard the motors breaking.

[@goansunborn]

I live in Norway. The used car market is flooded with low km EV's that are not selling. Petrol and diesel cars are going up in value.

[@Thisthat1234]

Just picked up a 2012 FJ Cruiser with 178k miles for 11k. A steal in my opinion.

[@egs2169]

The car enthusiasts he described are a tiny percentage of regular people.

[@victorsladkowski]

Just watched this video after changing the oil in my 2010 Santa Fe that creaks in the winter time and is worth maybe $2k 😂

[@r3x_delta30]

Another reason I feel like they are so cheap is because Tesla themselves lower the prices of their cars like every other week. Plus most people who buy teslas want the latest and greatest tech and tech moves fast so when the car is 5+ years old they want a new one and there is just an excess of used ones

[@igloozoo3771]

I thought the tech on the 2018s are not much different than the 2024s since they are able to upgrade.

[@Ryukachoo]

4:40 Just wait till you get an ioniq 5 N Its not the same but its pretty impressive how close they got in visceral feeling to a dual clutch transmission

[@tom23245]

High performance EV's are like Mary Due characters; super powerful, easy, lack of character, and no hard work involved. It ends up being uninteresting despite literally outperforming gasoline vehicles. It's a huge drawback when for enthusiasts who aren't purely chasing higher specs just for the sake of it.

[@richardfolden3860]

Weird, Tesla is the first car that I’ve ever had that I just get in to go drive because it’s such a pleasant experience. To each his own, I guess.

[@Jortdf534]

nobody thinks you're cool or special because you choose to manually shift gears. Bragging that it's harder to drive a manual is boomer cope. It's harder to carve a turkey without an electric knife, but nobody's impressed that you did it without one

[@klwklw2583]

@@Jortdf534ha! Awesome comment but I am kinda impressed if someone does a neat turkey cut with a dull knife. It takes skill!😅 plus tastes better

[@doomsday9973]

@@Jortdf534lol DEAD ON. Boomer cope. lol I love it. It’s like computer nerds who want to look cool because they can do everything with the command line when everyone else can do the same exact thing with 2 clicks on an icon

[@OmegaOne-i9u]

A lot of people are finding out that it's only worth if you own a home with a driveway

[@coldlogic800]

ALSO: EVs were pushed on us. In the case of Tesla it was government incentives and speculation by early Tesla investors that put those cars into people's hands before the tech was ready. (cost effective to produce AND reliable)

[@AlexSarovsky]

The best thing about falling values of EVs is that naturally a very good percentage of owners will keep them until the wheels fall off. Which is the best financial decision you can make for any vehicle, but most people don’t for emotional reasons. And for most EVs that means hundreds of thousands of miles and 12+ years of issue free driving. By that time all car loans are long paid off and you are enjoying the cheapest possible transportation for 7+ years without feeding the banks

[@Andyski-h9r]

Tavarish looks like he's losing some weight, good on him!

[@BradThomas]

My wife and I have been driving Teslas now for 4 years. Getting back in a regular car, even my friends new bmw m5, just feels outdated.

[@Mustang46liters]

Bro hit the nail on the head on why some car enthusiasts don’t like teslas.

[@gravins32]

I love my Niro ev, but I totally agree and resonate with the love of a strong gas driving experience. I miss my 87 Porsche 944.

[@jasonpeck4444]

When the battery dies in a Tesla it’s 35k to replace it with labor. That’s why older higher mileage electric cars are worth way less, in my opinion.

[@Misssabul]

Teslas are just that, .... cheap, cheaply built, low quality components. They're showing up at Used Car lots across the U.S.. Very hard to sell a Used EV

[@Riverrain123]

teslas are great dailys

[@JohnDoe-lw2nm]

Until it snows.

[@zeecee9479]

@@JohnDoe-lw2nm AWD is a choice

[@HermanWillems]

@@JohnDoe-lw2nm I got an RWD model 3, it performs better than other RWD cars i had in the snow because of the extreme good traction control. Which is impossible with ICE motor because an electric motor has fine grained torque control. An electric motor is ALWAYS better in snow than ICE.

[@gregkollaeg2365]

The Tesla Roadster is a Lotus Elise. Lol

[@rg5445]

Prices go down for a one reason only. Because the item isn’t selling that’s that. Why it’s not selling is more complicated.

[@Tschacki_Quacki]

Yeah, it has nothing to do with age or mileage.......

[@rg5445]

@@Tschacki_Quacki What’s your point?

[@NOSFERATU_ONE]

get a land cruiser 100 series If you want an asset on wheels instead of a liability

[@coldlogic800]

I think you mean they're bullet proof right until they brick themselves OR have a battery failure. Disposable cars are just so green. I have a customer who's Tesla Roadster bricked itself in her garage. Apparently it was a nightmare to drag out.

[@campgod2979]

Got a 2020 model 3 40k miles from Subaru for 20k. Great car

[@Roger-il8iw]

Dude you can get a 2 year old Tesla for 20k everywhere now

[@stainlessstove4629]

Or I can get an internal combustion classic that runs great and you can mod for less than that.

[@ChuMaiHà]

Just jumped on the Cortux train and couldn't be more thrilled!

[@micker9830]

We can drive a daily driver car now, that has the acceleration, that beats a Ferrari F40 or Porsche 959, which I had posters of on my wall in the 80s, for less than a 1/4 of the price those cars were 35+ yrs ago. On top of that, you don't get 12mpg, with premium fuel only lol. I mean come on, people are complaining?

[@nickolasseesannyland6355]

Found a Model 3 PerforFound a Model 3 Performance 2019 with 75000km for about 22,500USD. From Tesla Certified Pre Owned. For some reason it has: Limited Vehicle Warranty October 2027 / 100,000 total kilometers Limited Used Vehicle Warranty Additional 1 year / 20,000 total kilometers Limited Battery and Powertrain Warranty October 2030 / 192,000 total kilometers Seems like a good deal?

[@WoWiWe-z2p]

Nah

[@nickolasseesannyland6355]

@@WoWiWe-z2p could you explain further?

[@iamchaunceman]

So you get a 5 year old performance model 3 with only 75k for 22,5 yet the battery is covered for 6 more years ? Sign me up after explaining what limited means

[@Tschacki_Quacki]

@@iamchaunceman "limited" means the usual stuff + for EV batteries it means that normal degradation is not covered by warranty. You don't get a new one if your Tesla has lost 8% range after 8 years. You get a new one if it has lost 30% or more. (ain't gonna happen) The extra long warranty is probably a glitch but it wouldn't be the first time that people can take advantage of such a mistake 😄

[@Ou8y2k2]

1. Supply & Demand. It's not just the Chinese with EV parking lots full of new cars. 2. Overpricing. Teslas make the most cheese per new car sale. 3. Competition. Several other manufacturers have finally started making EVs with decent range. 4. Alternatives. A lot of folks are buying hybrids which offer the best of both worlds/fuels. 5. Infrastructure. While Tesla has thousands of superchargers, they're more sparse in the south. And not everyone owns a home so charging is a pain.

[@TopmobileDeals]

I must be weird because I actually like how my Tesla sounds,sounds like I’m in a space ship 😂😂😂I choose that over mufflers

[@doublem6027]

Gay

[@cleanenvironment8121]

Very bad fit-to-finish

[@SrtRacerBoy]

Theyre cheap because of warrantys expiring. Tesla owners buy them because they've never used a screwdriver in their entire life, a flat tire is an all day event.

[@rancid216]

Hardest problems to track down on a car are electrical and EVs are all electrical. So why buy a used EV and maybe get an expensive problem. Not to mention the cost of needing a new battery and you really don't have any idea how much longer a used EV battery is going to last. With a used gas vehicle you can test drive it and get an idea how the transmission shifts and the engine runs.

[@IndiaMikePapa]

It's that battery man. Degrades quick and gives people range anxiety.

[@Dragferret]

As a single person I don't need a sedan or an SUV. EVs don't cater for me.

[@ShawnMortensenNE]

Their service and sales process absolutely sucks, which is why they cannot sell them because no one trusts them. I have one and just spent $3500 on nothing and it was down for over a month at the service center.

[@khoanguyen1176]

In 2022 people would pay $65k for a used Model Y that cost 55k in the first place.

[@orlandogarcia1036]

The Tesla model s and x can easily do 100,000 miles it's not a normal car. What you need to worry about is charge cycles on the battery and battery module balance. Singular cells may degrade and affect surrounding cells lowering overall capacity therefore range.

[@smks8er]

If the demand for new EV cars is dropping wouldn’t that mean the demand for used EVs would spike leading to a increase in price? There seems to be a disconnect there. Personally I think the demand for EVs is overhyped. At least in my area the infrastructure is the problem. Until EV super charging stations are as ubiquitous as gas stations I think the market will retain a desire for ICE. Also there’s something to be said about people that don’t own a home and can’t charge at home.

[@MrJturner74]

So is anyone else going to point out just how bad evs are in a natural disaster? It's all fun and games till a flood happens.

[@johnchristopher7697]

This felt like listening to the livery stable owner in the early 1900s telling you how the car takes no skill, but a horse takes skill, and you can hear the sounds of the horse, and you're outdoors and one with the horse, its visceral. He's probably right, but doesn't matter, EVs are going to take over during the next 10 or so years. Look what's happening in China as we speak, they are already above 50% now.

[@sykal]

new EV demand is slowing all over the world including China.

[@galeng2569]

Nice try. Still not buying an ev

[@johnchristopher7697]

@@galeng2569 You can buy whatever you desire. I live in Texas and plenty of people still ride horses. But make no mistake, EVs are going to dominate in the coming years, it’s just inevitable

[@KushbiZ]

@@johnchristopher7697 I agree it is inevitable that most cars on the road will be EVs in the future. That is the next automotive step. Not at the rate your talking about tho....10yrs? Hardly. This is a generational thing. We are atleast 2-3 generations away from EVs being kings on the road.

[@daison96]

The rear earth minerals will deplete long before we consume fossil fuels and natural gas--how do you figure EVs will take over? Besides that, ICE vehicles can run on a multitude of fuels, not simply petrol. The EV hype is a cash-grabbing fad.

[@Areku06]

Used Model 3 are super reliable especially dual motor long range models, those can go 400k+ miles on original battery and brakes.

[@SanDiegoOfficial]

I feel like the 2016 and below tesla are also getting affected by the FAD update. Those cannot be upgraded to FSD.

[@LuigiTốDương]

Cortux is a powerhouse! Excited about the future and the gains ahead.

[@callmebigpapa]

Car are a consumable like a tube of toothpaste: Average car: After 1 year: Loses ~25% of its value After 3 years: Retains only ~55% of original value After 5 years: Worth about 40% of original price After 10 years: Worth roughly 20% of original price

[@unchainedsilver9702]

The biggest reason nobody wants a used Tesla is the battery , you are screwed if it goes bad because of the cost . ...once third party companies come up with cheaper options then people will be more comfortable buying a used Tesla ...

[@IndiaMikePapa]

I can't believe they didn't mention ANYTHING about the battery, WHICH IS THE NUMBER ONE REASON THEY DEPRECIATE!

[@incyphe]

I don't like Tesla not because it's EV. It don't like it because they are arrogant. Their ergonomics are now trash because they've removed so many physical switches. They've been manufacturing cars for a long time and they still cannot get build quality right. They don't test their cars thoroughly in different environment compared to legacy companies. Just look at the cyber truck and all its issues. They take their customers for granted because they have so many fan boys.

[@Hella916]

I have a 2022 model 3 and it’s perfect.. Also, they haven’t been around that long compared to other car companies. I don’t know where you get your information from but they test their cars in every environment. The only thing they haven’t gotten right is the build quality of FIRST release vehicles. Those are the ones that have the not so good build quality and other small issues.

[@ben573481]

It is like saying you wanted a physical keyboard on a phone when iPhone was out. I don’t miss the gas car noise and the vibration at all.

[@jwick24gaming]

When your battery has to be replaced outside of manufacturer warranty thats about 20k. My friend has one u better be prepared $$ if u get one without warranty nothing is cheap to repair

[@wadepugsley2196]

It’s simple. They are selling them because of the upcoming battery replacement costing $18,000. This is not hard to understand

[@blackups__6554]

The range of the battery and charging time is why I can’t by a Tesla. I bought a 2025 Lexus nx 350h instead. When Tesla range hit 500 miles, then I might consider it.

[@RIVvideos]

2024 Refresh came out, with EV Tax and prices have been going down in the last 18 months. You can get a brand new tesla 3 LR RWD 2024 for 30k. So yeah, that's going to drop all used EV car prices

[@HermanWillems]

30K for such a car. Is a very very good deal. fk. In Europe they cost 43K or something. But we have tax included and everything. How much does it cost out of pocket for real in USA if you buy it for 30K. What additional costs can you get ? How much gets off your bankaccount for real.

[@RIVvideos]

@@HermanWillems yeah my bad, its more like 42000 - 7500 tax credit, then add another 3-4k with taxes, tags, etc. But for used cars its also pre-tax so youd have to add it aswell

[@MattWells-89]

No one wants to risk having to pay for a battery that equals the price they paid for the car, and many people wouldn’t be able to swing that from a financial perspective. Sure it’s a low probability, but the odds aren’t zero.

[@Splitthatpie]

Electric car as a daily driver if you have the ability to charge it is mind blowing to be able to go 70 80,000 miles with no oil change no transmission fluid no anything but tires and brakes. The biggest expense on view and a gasoline vehicle is the gasoline 300,000 miles cost 30,000 in gas + oil transmission, fluid differential fluid, PTU etc. you’d be an idiot if you don’t buy any electric vehicle unless you live on the East Coast and you’re worried about a hurricane

[@dct124]

Add $10k to $20k to all Tesla cars due to the possibility of replacing the battery.

[@ItsameBS]

Value goes up when fsd comes out. Especially is you can use them as a robo taxi.

[@bisquick1093]

I got a brand new one for $28k. Best car I have driven and will be getting wife one for $15k with trade in. Take advantage of credits because they will be gone soon

[@projectdohctur8798]

Imagine an ev with a manual transmission Built like car enthusiasts like them 🙀

[@stainlessstove4629]

Only non car people would ask why people dont like EV's.