Why VA Gaming Monitors Kinda Suck...

[@humanbeing7938]

To everyone, PLEASE do your research before buying monitors. I bought a VA monitor that seemes to have good specs, and didnt read any reviews from buyers. The monitor had very bad ghosting/smearing, and I didnt even want to play games on it. Thankfully I have a better one now.

[@purplegill10]

VA monitor user here. I finally switched away from a TN (and formerly IPS) because of night work and the difference has been absolutely staggering. I can finally lower my monitor's brightness WAY down while still being able to see stuff and the dark smearing is, to me, an incredibly small sacrifice to finally not strain my eyes at night.

[@bluecali4na]

What monitor??

[@tankertanker3373]

you can lower ur brightness super low with ips too

[@purplegill10]

@@tankertanker3373 You can, and that's what I did on my old monitor, but the advantage of VA is that you can still see things very clearly because the contrast ratio is so high. The best way I can describe it is that things still look visible even during dark games and the monitor is on its lowest brightness setting. On IPS you could barely see anything when it would get that low.

[@sweetsurrender815]

For that you should've went with OLED then. TN is absolutely horrible tho lmao

[@purplegill10]

@@sweetsurrender815 I wasn't in a place to afford any OLEDs on the market. I got a black friday deal on a VA monitor and jumped on it.

[@swirrllfolfsky9803]

Fun fact, that wasn't a landed player. It was a landed NPC, similar to the ones that want to trade when you're in space. Still fairly rare, and adds a bit of immersion

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

Oh cool! You learn something everyday. Pretty disappointed, but still cool. 😃

[@tonyhughes4101]

Honest dude, i have a 144hz ips panel in my omen laptop 9th gen with an rtx 2060 6gb and it looks bob on

[@TabalugaDragon]

did he REALLY expect a real player would land in a galaxy which literally has trillions of planets in it? There is a good chance to meet one only in popular star systems

[@TabalugaDragon]

@@DawidDoesTechStuff dude, Euclid(first) galaxy alone has trillions of star systems and planets. If you want to meet real people in the game you should go to Space Anomaly or to some popular places. Community expeditions also include a lot of players at once, especially at the start. And about these landing pilots - you can buy very rare hazard protections from them, try trading with the next one.

[@SpaceGamblerJR]

Guess I'm just not that picky. been playing games on a console with an LCD panel for years. recently got an LG gn600 32" and was happy with that and never noticed it. I guess beggars can't be choosers. lol

[@amargasaurus5337]

Was heavily considering VA (on Argentina, high end doesn't even cross the border here) and god bless you and this video. I heavily dislike motion blur (I even turn it off in games that include it, if possible) and holy bejisus I could notice the blur on those monitors while watching the vid on my phone as my internet went full potato 240p. You've saved me from mucho sadness! I am eternally grateful.

[@Checo89]

De dónde sos? Yo probé un par de va y un par de ips. Ambos tienen sus pro y sus contra

[@amargasaurus5337]

@@Checo89 El Hoyo, Chubut.. sep, posta se llama así el pueblo. VA tiene sus ventajas (principalmente precio/htz) pero yo no juego shooters u otros multijugadores competitivos. No voy a estar corriendo Skyrim modeado a más de 70FPS, y ya estoy re acostumbrado a 30/60 así que me hace más diferencia pasar a mejor definición, más tamaño y mejores colores que gastar en refresh rate o velocidad de respuesta. Al fin y al cabo depende de para qué vayas a usar el monitor. En mi caso IPS simplemente aplica mejor al uso que yo le daría, pero si jugara shooters seguro compraría VA

[@Checo89]

@@amargasaurus5337 si... yo probé el gigabyte g32qc. La imagen es hermosa. Buenos colores y excelente contraste. Pero nunca había visto un ghosting y black smearing al nivel que tenía. Movía una ventana en el escritorio y se veía toda una estela detrás. Ahora tengo un lg 32gp850-b. Es perfecto en claridad de movimiento. Pero el poco contraste y el ips glow son una mierda. En este momento estoy probando una tv samsung qn90b y me sorprendió el poco ghosting que tiene. Pensé que iba a ser muy molesto

[@kristoffer3000]

You can get VA panels with very little ghosting, don't discount them!

[@amargasaurus5337]

@@kristoffer3000 Any recommendations? Do consider that where I live we don't get many options. There are like less than five affordable monitors in each category, plus half of them don't even have reviews or were reviewed four years ago xD

[@Lethariusoctovan]

So I had NEVER thought about this until I saw this video, and now i can't unsee the visual cholera on my 43inch 144hrz rog strix VA monitor that cost me the equivalent of a fist sized blood-ruby. Of course this only proves my wife right about the purchase, which somehow ages my inner child through pride breaking pain. Honestly Dawid, I think some things should stay a mystery! :P

[@bah0met1]

A monitor that size is going to look shitty anyway. Terrible purchase. Buy monitors in that specific resolutions sweet spot for the best visual experience.(1080p is 24 in and 2k is 27 in)

[@Lethariusoctovan]

@@bah0met1 and 4k is 32inch? :) Oh and shitty IS a matter of perspective :P I would like to point out that watching Dune on this monitor is like watching god giving birth in realtime, but I will admit that i am as of now seriously considering selling the monitor in favour of an IPS one but if the gains are nominal... I've heard great things about OLED as long as you're willing to risk the burn-in

[@dnegel9546]

buy a CRT tv or monitor. smearing is not even possible on those. of course you lose resolution..

[@AdamMi1]

​@dnegel and you also lose a massive amount of other things that are considered standard

[@SA9LTY]

"visual cholera"-☠☠☠

[@MaybeMizuki]

Regarding the "tell me in the comments if you have a VA monitor": Yeah, I have a 165Hz VA monitor, and I came from a 60Hz IPS (but an older one) And I find the overall blurriness in motion somewhat comparable. It *is* better on the VA, given the higher refresh rate and new panel, but the black level smearing specifically is indeed quite noticeable. A lot less at the higher refresh rates, but if it goes down towards the 60 FPS range, the ghosting in night scenes is real. I do understand if for some people that could be a deal breaker, but over the 5-7 or so years I had my old IPS monitor, the IPS glow, backlight bleed and bright black levels were more annoying for me personally. (Yes I know IPS panels have improved a lot as well)

[@EvolutionBG]

Sadly, no, IPS panels wasn't improved in any other way than refresh rates, on the contrary - they are getting worse (in terms of IPS glow, bleed, contrast etc.)

[@ThiagoMatuo]

What you talked about the IPS still happens. I have the LG 29WK600 ISP 75hz and playing games in dark environments such as Metro Exodus and GR Breakpoint makes everything look odd. Buuut I work a lot with black themes and I'm a little afraid that scrolling codes will look like pasta with the VA panel. I just bought one and I hope I don't regret it.

[@colinpierre3441]

@@ThiagoMatuo How is the VA panel working out for you? I work with a lot of dark mode themes myself and I'm contemplating if it's ok to buy a VA panel.

[@peterwoodaman5936]

@@colinpierre3441I have the LG ultra gear 24 inch IPS panel that everyone considers the best 24 inch monitor out there and a 27 inch LG ultragear VA panel that runs 1080 p and 120 fps on COD and I’m enjoying the VA panel a lot. They are just different! I don’t consider one better than the other. Both have pros and cons. For example, last week I played on the IPS and immediately missed the deep rich black tones on the VA panel. One thing I can say, LG has mastered the movement aspect of the VA panel. It plays nearly identical as far as smoothness in comparison to my IPS panel.

[@kamen.rider.decade]

I've noticed on my old 144Hz VA monitor that the smearing isn't noticeable if it's set to 60Hz. Which soundly defeats the purpose of getting a 144Hz monitor, but at least it's good enough to watch streaming videos on if you decide to get a used one as a second monitor.

[@curvingfyre6810]

at that point though, just go to your local goodwill and pick up something random. If you're not gaming on it, what does it matter?

[@kamen.rider.decade]

@@curvingfyre6810 colors and viewing angles

[@Ignacio.Romero]

even at 120hz it should do much better

[@MLWJ1993]

Ehh, it's not that dark transitions no longer smear, every pixel response is more or less equally slow at that lower refresh rate. I.E. they all smear 😆

[@ET_AYY_LMAO]

Honestly most people can't see the difference anyways. Back when CRT monitors were a thing I required a high refreshrate monitor because I would get migraines without it, but I have been running 60hz on flat panels since they came to market, no problem. I can still own you all in CSGO.

[@budgetking2591]

Just bought my first VA monitor, never going back to IPS again, finally no more eye strain .

[@Mashruz]

Which monitor did you get?

[@MunsaiN]

I thought i was the only one with eye strain (and extreme headache) on ips

[@Talos202]

probably ill give it back, it really hurts my eyes. Who TF said IPS monitors more safe for eyes, with any brightness level it burns out my eyes

[@rafiulrafi9091]

@@Talos202 I got a samsung T35F and really burns my eyes out, made me get blue light glasses

[@rafiulrafi9091]

which one?

[@sam_86314]

I've been using a 35" VA ultrawide from Monoprice (3440x1440 100Hz) for two years now, and while I've definitely noticed the smearing in dark scenes, it hasn't bothered me (even as a dark mode user). I absolutely love the black levels that VA has. I view it as an excellent compromise between IPS and TN, and I actually prefer it to those two.

[@goochipoochie]

Not at all, the blacks in no way compensate for the ghosting which makes the VA monitors completely unusable for most tasks The blacks themselves are nothing out of the ordinary and most HDR IPS displays match or exceed the blacks that VA offer IPS reigns supreme easy (until OLEDs become cheap and solve burn-in problems)

[@FantasticKruH]

@@goochipoochie I think if you do any gaming, if you want VA you gotta go for the expensive VA monitors, otherwise they will have shit response time and have smearing and ghosting. But high end VA monitors have the same response time as IPS monitors sometimes even better than IPS.

[@keponen331]

@@goochipoochie what HDR IPS are you talking about? Only ones are $800 miniLeds, HDR 400 is laughable

[@redditmanllegnisthebirdofh9887]

@@keponen331hdr adds around 50ms latency, comp gamers do not use hdr for this reason. So HDR being the only reason to get an OLED is kinda stupid for a ton of people I’d rather get it for the blistering fast response times with no hdr unless I’m playing some single player game.

[@keponen331]

@@redditmanllegnisthebirdofh9887 how many of us are comp gamers? exactly

[@redbeardrpg]

The blur effect from VA panels literally give me motion sickness. 100% unusable

[@jeffrossbach695]

I have a VA panel monitor and while I do notice the smearing vs IPS monitors that I've had, it isn't bad enough to make me buy an IPS monitor with similar or better specs to replace it especially since I do enjoy the contrast of the VA for stuff that doesn't necessarily need motion clarity.

[@ALmaN11223344]

Both are kinda compromises, but I'd personally consider the IPS to be less of one if I were in the market and only had the two choices. Hopefully more OLEDs come down the pipeline, they ace what either VA or IPS are already decent at and do better with everything else across the board too.

[@syarifairlangga4608]

@@ALmaN11223344 Amoled in TV is bad idea, unlike phone who turn off the light frequently.

[@shinefake48]

had a 24in IPS, but it broke, got a 32in VA from my relative for free, and I still can't really get use to it

[@bairaqarpinker7460]

What is your contrast ratio?

[@bairaqarpinker7460]

@@ALmaN11223344 OLED is compromise too, "burning in". Id rather deal with contrast and motion problems than with an image that is imprinted on my display.

[@Totto70770]

Thank you for this. I thought I was losing my mind after I initially switched to a VA monitor. I love the contrast on VA, but the blurry motion causes me severe eyestrain and headaches. Sadly will have to move back to IPS (OLED isn't there yet for me). Hopefully the monitors coming by the end of the year and early next year will be able to bring adequate contrasty IPS options.

[@ALmaN11223344]

The new AW3423DWF costs $1000, it's a pricey investment but it's well worth it given you probably won't upgrade for several years to come.

[@peanutonapopsiclestick790]

Its often to va monitor not just va. Some va monitord have no lotion blur. It depends on what ur using. You cant jusy buy a 80 euro va and then blame all va panels

[@broakroze]

Try an odessey G7. The G series has the best response time performance of any VA panel. Also response times are borderline useless metrics since the setting they use to achieve that have so much overshoot it’s completely unusable. Actual response times of those VAs are more like 12-18ms.

[@ohhave3586]

I just went from a TA xl2546k to trying an ASUS rog IPS panel and g7 VA panel at the same time and the IPS was definitely better for some contrast/colour stuff but the general effect of the VA and the much better lighting for dark areas really won me over. They all had positives (low input, good colour gamut spread, ‘HDR’) but the g7 was surprisingly good.

[@Ay-xq7mj]

Whats the point? Im gonna just stick to TN until i can get a giant oled.

[@im_godness7990]

Got the G9 and I dont see any problems with the panel at all

[@theoldpcgamer77]

@@Ay-xq7mj Oled is still sample and hold and the moving image won't look any better than the best TN. Right now the Samsung G7 1440p 240hz 27" has almost TN response with the great blacks, colour, greyscale and gamma with HDR that is good enough and beats any 1000nit FALD IPS with it's blooming, less nits yes but a better on average picture in HDR on dark vs light average.

[@Alex-tu5vu]

yup I have one

[@Wonka0998]

I have only used VA panels to play games because they're cheaper and were the only ones I could afford. So I've never been exposed to any other panel technology. I also don't play particularly fast moving games, so it's never ever been a problem for me.

[@Neverknot47]

Look at how slow he was moving in the example at the beginning lol The smearing is simply from turning

[@04Y]

I recommend you to try ips it’s better in every aspect, its will be noticeable

[@TanteEmmaaa]

It's crazy that so many TV's are using MVA or SVA or QLEDs, that are all VA panels, but with much less black smearing than these "gaming monitors" that they are selling.

[@gaunterodimm3606]

It depends on panel quality. There are IPS panels that have bad ghosting and VA panels don't always have great contrast. I'm glad IPS has come a long way, ghosting and washout used to be a much larger issue.

[@yunsha9986]

IPS panel with bad ghosting only happens when dumb customers don't check the response time. If it has >2ms, obviously you will experience ghosting, which is normal. If you are buying a monitor for gaming purposes, you always want 2ms, it's probably not a gaming monitor, if it is, that's gonna be the worst design you want to stay away from.

[@smahsan3431]

@@yunsha9986 it isn't thay easy and simple tbh There are two types of pixel response time, GTG and MPRT In very basic language, GTG is like the thing gamers concern for, faster GTG = Better response time (should range from smw 3-5ms, be careful of brands achieving lower gtg by agressively backlight strobing and reverse ghosting everything) MPRT deals heavily with motion clarity (should range normally smw 1-2ms) So yeah, there u go It really isnt that easy lol And do correct me in places I'm wrong since im learning such stuffs recently too

[@phat-Rat]

It still is washed out... the contrast is still terrible. Like TN terrible.

[@jayzee8bp276]

@@yunsha9986 fun fact, most of the cheap "1ms" monitors are actually a gimmick. Some of them even goes up to 6ms.

[@EduardoTyrannyth]

@@yunsha9986 Good IPS panels don't usually comes with 5ms BTB and 1MS GTG?

[@GENKI_INU]

For me, I find IPS' terrible contrast ratios and "IPS glow" (not to mention backlight-bleed), more distracting and noticeable than the black-level smearing I've encountered on recent high-refresh VAs in almost all gaming scenerios, unless you only play horror or certain survival games with very dark scenes.

[@ExQRx]

The ips glow and bad contrast can be mostly eliminated with bias lighting. It is reducing the eye strain also.

[@UltraBearsFan]

​@@ExQRx "Mostly" eliminated isn't good enough. I returned my IPS monitor for a refund as soon as I determined that I couldn't eliminate the terrible golden glow on the left side of the screen. Crazy that monitors sold in 2022 are inferior to a monitor I've owned since 2014 and how people simply accept this glaring fault in the product. It was an LG Ultragear monitor, perhaps LG is particularly bad, I don't know. Definitely not wasting my time with an IPS panel again.

[@ExQRx]

@@UltraBearsFan I'd be glad to buy a budget OLED monitor for 500-600$, but it doesn't exist. When choosing between VA for this price and IPS, all VA panels for this price were so terrible with black smearing that I consider them unusable. And there is no way to fix it, you have to live with it (or with inverse ghosting on high overdrive settings which is even worse). With bias lighting all glow that I have on ips is absolutely not visible. It is a matter of getting the right brightness of bias light. So in this unfortunate situation where you have to deal with shit budget products there are some compromises that have to be made...

[@rawrgi4338]

@@ExQRx where The hell did you buy a oled monitor for 600 please tell The name

[@gamingindonesiatv]

​@@UltraBearsFanlol lg is shit. I almost buying them until I read so many review on horrible glow. But I end up buying another ips screen with no backlight bleed and lower price than lg.

[@chrisfanning5842]

The trick is to find a VA panel with non-terrible black response times. RTINGS review response time in-depth and you just need to look at the response time chart for the first result which is 0-20%, which is a worst-case scenario for VA smearing. Getting a VA panel with sub-10ms 0-20% is fast enough to negate any black smearing and you still get the amazing image quality that makes VA so much nicer to look at than IPS. I went through several VA monitors before finding one that didn't suck, and I settled on the Dell S3220DGF which is mediocre in many areas, but can do a full 0-20% transition in 1/165th of a second - zero black smearing.

[@dnegel9546]

seems a CRT monitor or TV blows all these monitors away. specially with motion. something modern displays cant seem to match.

[@Catboy-hr2qp]

Mind listing the rtings response article? Thinking of picking up a dell s3222dgm which the rting review put just beneath the one you got in response time

[@kanta32100]

It's possible to eliminate smearing on VA monitor. At least on my monitor there is an option called 'Shadow control'. It basically just lowers the contrast to IPS levels.

[@FreshExp]

I use the 27 inch version of your monitor and they are so good, I used to notice smearing but I don't anymore

[@yeahhboii6685]

which monitor should I get? Samsung Odyssey G3 G32A (LS24AG320NUXEN) VA or ASUS Wide VG249Q1A Tuf Gaming IPS

[@craftmaster300]

I bought an aoc VA panel monitor and used it for about a year before buying a ips as my main monitor. I noticed the smearing right away while playing Minecraft, the leave blocks looked terrible when moving around and text on signs was impossible to read unless I stood still. But I didn't really notice too much smearing for anything other than deep blacks. Another place where VA sucks is scrolling web pages on dark mode. The text all blurs when scrolling and it's impossible to skim for information quickly, you have to stop scrolling just to see the text.

[@AnnaDoes]

Aww I love it when we get to see Neko in a video

[@Jezza_C_WT]

Neko is adorable!! ^_^m

[@x8jason8x]

Lol... don't you get to see him every day?

[@Bruh-gx1ey]

I find it really wholesome that you always show your support by commenting on his videos!

[@mjkhan03]

Have you found any budget friendly small OLED yet?

[@sandylechef]

😅 perso sa me dérange pas

[@flying_cactus]

I use a VA panel, and I have to say, I got used to it in like a week. The colors are amazing and I don't really mind the smearing, at least on the use cases I do.

[@uribak9144]

I like to watch TV series on my screen not only gaming, that's why I chose a VA panel all the way.

[@FreshExp]

same, barely notice the smearing compared to when I got my monitors towards the start of the year

[@markfrederick5012]

What is the brand of your va monitor?

[@gb1838]

you have the odyssey?

[@hircine92h]

Colors are not amazing on VA at all. Put it near an IPS and u gonna see.

[@sergiostockfleth823]

As so many others have already commented, try a Samsung Odyssey G7, or a G9. They are not ultra wide, but they represent the pinacle of VA panels. I think you will be quite amazed. I myself am using a G7 for work/gaming, and it is quite awesome with butter smooth 240Hz refresh rate and very vivid colors, and deep blacks from a true 10bit panel. If it didn't have a mat coating, you could mistake it for an OLED. Only downside is the rather aggressive curve, which can make it tricky working with 3d CAD modelling.

[@ALmaN11223344]

They're definitely the best of VA panels, but they're still measurably worse than the mediocre IPS panels in a number of ways. If you were gonna spend G9 money I'd rather burn it than nab a G9 over a QD-OLED and if you only had G7 money I still don't think it offers anything better than IPS competitors in the same price range.

[@sergiostockfleth823]

@@ALmaN11223344 I agree. A QD-OLED is way better then VA and IPS, but this video is specifically about VA panels. I also wouldnt want the G9, but that is because it is too massive and expensive for my taste. But since I have been using the G7 for a couple of years I really love the VA panel type. Recently tested an Apple Studio Display, and although it is a sexy screen, the actual quality of the IPS display was sort of a let down compared to my G7, because of the much lower contrast on these old IPS panels. In the Liquid HDR video on YouYube, the G7 gave way better black levels, and therefore percieved better more saturated colours. Only downside for me, is the curve, and the ugly black plastic/rgb finish, but that is of course a matter of taste. My next monitor will probably be the Samsung M8 as it has the looks and the deep blacks, and rich colours I like.

[@245trichlorophenate]

So, funny thing, I've thought for 6 years that my primary display was IPS. I just now found that it is in fact a VA panel. I ran some motion clarity tests (artificial as well as in games) on it (4K, 60Hz, VA) and my secondary display (1080p, 60Hz, IPS) and the motion clarity is very noticeably worse on the IPS panel. I was confused because I saw this video a while a go, just now putting it out there to say your mileage may vary. I will probably now be buying VA, because of the blacks, the price and since motion clarity is apparently a non-issue and varies per product and not by panel type.

[@joemarais7683]

I got a VA, IPS and OLED panel. While I think the IPS is better, I really can't see a difference between the two compared to the OLED, so imo VA and IPS both suck equally bad.

[@TechRIP]

Well, you aren't doing it correctly. You have to pause the screen and zoom in 3X. lol

[@x8jason8x]

OLED kills everything for image quality and response time. I love with my LGC1, puts every monitor or TV I've ever had to shame.

[@huskers1278]

I could never go back to an IPS screen. The damn blooming killed me.

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

Oled is the next step. I’m excited for more oled gaming monitors to come on to the market. 😃

[@vipersrt30]

i got an IPS after using a VA and uh yeah its not as good of an upgrade as i thought.

[@BitZapple]

I prefer the deeper blacks of even cheap VAs (with some smearing) over the washed out grayish blacks on IPS. Cheap IPS will also have ghosting btw, which is almost just as bad as the dark smearing on a cheap VA.

[@OptimalMayhem]

I agree. I have 3 monitors in my setup. The center monitor is IPS since I run my games on it. The monitors on each side of that are VA, as they were cheaper and have a better viewing angle. Works out really well for me.

[@IamJoeTV]

I have almost the same setup. I have 4 monitors but for sake of conversation we'll ignore the top one. My center display is OLED and outside 2 panels are VA. I did a lot of color tuning to try to match when i use all 3 panels to play a game. It's crazy how much difference the OLED to VA panels are. Edit: All of my panels are 32" curved, center 1800R outside panels 1500R.

[@OptimalMayhem]

@@IamJoeTV Yeah the color matching was tough. I used a Spider pro and Displaycal to calibrate all 3 of my monitors individually, which isn't completely perfect, but its very close. My center monitor is flat, but my both of my flanking monitors are 1500R. Works out pretty nice.

[@MirelRC]

Wait, a VA panel having better viewing angle than an IPS?

[@OptimalMayhem]

@@MirelRC Yeah i misspoke there. My VA monitors do seem to have pretty good viewing angles as far as VA goes and they’re curved so in my particular case and setup they do look better than some flat IPS would, but thats specific to me. On the flip side my IPS monitor’s blacks and grays look better than my VA panels’ after calibration in most things. Go figure.

[@OptimalMayhem]

@@Gandalf721 Its not brightness, they’re all set to 120cd/m. The actual blacks are good, but there’s a more pixelated affect around them on videos and such.

[@shakeyerhead_]

I notice that 99% of the youtuber reviewing their VA monitors are playing first person shooter. How about for those into other games like DOTA, Diablo, etc.. is VA ok ?

[@applesauce2710]

After upgrading from 1080p TN to 1440p ultrawide VA two years ago, what bothered me the most was the overall response time. It looked like motion blur turned on, was okay above 90-100 fps but horrific at 60fps. I rather use TN than VA because of that blur. One year later I switched to ultrawide IPS monitor and been happily using it since.

[@voodfernichterofficial4745]

I got a VA based 144Hz panel (Terra 3280W bought in 2019) and I never really noticed any smearing the only thing that bothers me are the not completely dark black levels. However I never really played on an IPS or OLED. The only monitor I have with less smearing is a CRT Monitor wich has its own issues. Actually I felt like the smearing on this monitor wasn't much because I only used TN Panels before. You should do a challenge where you play with a 2004 LCD or something they are so horrible with their ghosting that you even notice it when moving windows around. Oh and they need to warm up because they use tubes as a backlight

[@dessso4463]

Did you use old monitor with VGA cabel?

[@aryannarotra7487]

​@@dessso4463 probably But my 2024 IPS panel has VGA still no issue

[@LLCooLM595]

I got my first IPS monitor back in 2015, and honestly don't think I can go to anything else. The colors are much better than something like a TN panel, and the motion is crystal clear. Gonna be running my Acer Predator X34P until it stops working 🤘

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

Oh yeah! That predator x34 is an amazing monitor. 😃

[@cloud8521]

Going to be a long time, but micoLED is going to be amazing

[@ALmaN11223344]

I just switched from a monitor with a similar panel (PG348Q) to the new QD-OLED from alienware and it's equally as drastic a jump, if not greater.

[@Topper_Harley68]

I don't think they sell TN panels on monitors in the western world anymore.

[@Star_Spangled_Man_With_A_Plan]

After trying many many monitors over the years Ive learned that Im quite sensitive to motion blur / smearing, it is very noticable to me. But once I finally broke down and bought an OLED there is absolutely no going back for me now, it's like night and day when it comes to smearing and response time.

[@VladKov36]

I got a VA monitor like a year ago for the color range (mainly the darks/blacks) plus an upgrade to 1440p. Color transitions between these dark colors are much worse than on any other panel so you can get a little bit of smearing. The monitor has some "overdrive" setting and when set to the max there is no real smearing - its maybe not as good as an ips display of this quality would be. but compared to my older monitor the darker colors are just soo good for movies and games that have a nighttime where you can see clearly without upping the brightness.

[@railfans-psi]

Good for games that have a nighttime/much shadow where you can see clearly, Then VA panels is the best??

[@horrorfan6710]

Well IPS kind of sucks too, due to the IPS glow and low contrast IPS monitors have when your in darker scenes it looks like crap. VA on the other hand doesn't have either of these two big problems. But people complain about smearing on VA, but I much would rather have smearing then IPS glow/low contrast.

[@joshuawilliams6973]

Keep up the good tech work love watching your videos Dawid 💯

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

Thank you for the nice comment. Im glad you enjoy the videos. 😃

[@RunningCordoroy]

With va, I prefer to enable motion blur as it sort of diminishes the presence of blurring caused by the monitors innate slowness. Its not ideal but as the saying goes, "if you cant hide it, embellish it"

[@detmer87]

I have a LG Ultragear 32gn600, 32" 1440p 165Hz. Looks exactly as shown in this video. I prefer VA over IPS. I'm allergic to the low contrast which makes the image look washed-out. For fastest response time you need to use the BFI option which inserts black frames inbetween. In that mode it gets half way looking like my OLED TV in terms of pixel response. For VA I consider it quite impressive (read: quite decent in the realm of all monitors). IPS can have inversed ghosting which is much more noticeable. I hope we won't debate about this over a few years and all are on OLED monitors...

[@kigasdj2]

Keep dreaming OLED is insanely expensive to produce in small sizes, we will never see a cheap OLED monitors, not unless new tech will come up. Which would kill off LCD completely

[@МальвинаКотик-л1ъ]

@@kigasdj2 why is it though? I've seen many cheap OLED micro displays, like 2 inches or smth, Nintendo Switch has an OLED version that's not crazy expensive.

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

I tried all those settings and unfortunately it just couldn’t get the smearing to a point where it worked for me. I’m glad to hear the monitor works well for you though. 😃

[@omniyambot9876]

Yes. I maybe biased but I will choose my VA panel any day. Just because of the color.

[@kigasdj2]

@@МальвинаКотик-л1ъ Think about how many companies can produce 24 inch oled monitors? I only know 2 companies, Samsung and LG, they barely produce any as it is expensive and yields are not great, Samsung produce millions of 6 inchers for phones and Switch because they mastered technology on this size, when we move to 24 inch or above you facing entirely different problems and no company yet masteried 24 or above inch sizes production in cheap and huge quantities. So yeah we are many years away from cheap oled monitors something drastically has to happen to make them cheap.

[@swarmer5]

My biggest regret is buying a VA panel monitor for my little brothers setup. Playing warzone at 160 fps feels like im playing at 60 with all the smearing

[@jasonjavelin]

Recently picked up an almost identical monitor to my main IPS panel and it is a VA panel. The difference is hella noticeable but since it’s just a secondary monitor it’s not too bad for me. It was cheap and will mainly be for KZbin/ discord/ wikis. Being a mainly tarkov player that stuff is super noticeable Edit: despite the monitors being from the same manufacturer and very close in specs I could not get the actual monitors to match color wise

[@mightykodiak2584]

I got a VA display without even knowing VA was a thing. Spent 5 days trying to figure out how to get rid of the visual bugs. Ended up returning it and getting some 144hz IPS ultra gear for under 200 usd. Infinitely worth it

[@Piipperi800]

The first monitor I upgraded to from a TN panel was a cheap VA monitor from AOC. Not only were the colors horrible on that panel, the smearing was so bad I could not even make out what was happening in fast paced games and got very motion sick. Swapped it out for a very similarly priced LG IPS which had much better color, similar contrast and no smearing.

[@maelstrom7063]

wich model was the AOC one?

[@vita007]

@@maelstrom7063all cheap gaming AOC monitors sucks

[@loolgam1ng229]

I went from TN to IPS and i HATED it. There was this annoying glow and some like lighting smudge spots. And anything dark looked HORRIBLE. WHY did they stop making monitors. A 1440p TN panels would be great. I guess i will just have to buy a Benq Zowie monitor

[@Andarthiel]

I recently upgraded to the AOC CQ27G3S which is a VA panel and I cannot say that I noticed any weird motion artefacts. I do have I do however love the colour and brightness that it can produce as well as the contrast. I did have a cheaper VA ViewSonic monitor before this one which had a really bad ghosting issues when motion was involved which annoyed me a lot

[@AintThatSwell]

I'm getting an AOC moniter too soon, va panel, is yours still holding up n doing good?

[@Andarthiel]

@@AintThatSwell Yea, still enjoying it. Still going great

[@HistoricalFidelity]

Samsung is the best manufacturer for VA panels. They were the first to adopt VA for computer monitors and they invested insane amounts of money in VA research to create a competitor to LG’s OLED technology resulting in Samsung’s QLED VA based TVs. I still have Samsung’s first generation curved 34” ultrawide VA display from around 2015 and I still love it! Especially after color calibration where my average delta E went down to 0.34

[@merdax2760]

is VA for competitive games ? because i have the choice between a 165hz tn or 240hzVA ?

[@AveragePootis]

My Asus VG27VH1B 165hz VA monitor replaced my decade old Fujitsu SL23-1 LED inch OEM monitor and i have been in love with it ever since, the colours are nice and i almost never notice any ghosting and never have any issues with response times. It being curved is also so convenient as somebody with limited desk space Also to be fair, i dont really play FPS games outside of TF2 and some older CS games (even those against bots) and with my reaction times, i don't think im the best person to judge a monitor for fast paced fps games lol

[@MarkoVuckovic32]

I only used TN in the past and right now using IPS. Never tried VA but I'm absolutely happy with how IPS looks. I use my PC for everything from gaming to internet browsing and work. I feel like I won't upgrade until monitors with OLED panels get cheaper and also smaller since I don't like large monitors considering how close I sit to my PC when using it. I'd probably go up to 27" and no more than that.

[@saibamoe]

Miniled bro Miniled

[@jonathanellis6097]

I'm hoping to get an OLED display for gaming at some point. Burn in seems to be less of a problem on them now so perhaps sooner than later.

[@Dorraj]

Funny that you mention OLED. I have a Galaxy S22U, which has an OLED screen. When Dawid mentioned the smearing happening with darker scenes, and specifically the rendering of KZbin on dark mode, it immediately made me think of my phone. That exact issue happens on my phone. If there's ever a high contrast color moving on the screen, it will smear just like that.

[@abrikoskokos3769]

@@Dorraj Same thing with Galaxy s9, but it happens only on low brightness.

[@bulletpunch9317]

@@Dorraj happens on every oled phone at low brightness

[@FachryZulfikar]

@@Dorraj it happens on my A50 only at low brightness.

[@Ecalypse]

@@Dorraj My samsung odyssey+ AMOLED panel VR glasses also have this at night in skyrim and VTOL VR. Black smear.

[@darkmanure]

Dawid, your ads are the most awesome tech ads in the youtuber space.

[@peaheaduk]

Samsung G7 240hz has the best VA panel i have ever seen with my own eyes and i have owned a lot of monitors over the years.

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

Yeah I mention it in the end of the video. I’ve heard the G7 is awesome. 😃 I’m glad you are enjoying your monitor.

[@bujfvjg7222]

Grapevines man....

[@GoranObal]

The only channel where I don't skip the sponsor part. ;) Fun! IPS FTW

[@slipy050491]

I'm using a 165Hz VA panel for gaming. In my opinion its still 10 times better than a 60hz IPS/TN panel. It does not bother me too much but maybe i will try an IPS Panel next time. Did you test any overdrive settings? Edit: Ah sorry i missed it at 3:53

[@UmVtCg]

A 60 Hz ips panel, LOL there are high refresh rate IPS panels, they're great

[@slipy050491]

​@@UmVtCg I know but good IPS panels used to be way more expensive than VA Panels. Prices seem to go down though so my next Display might be IPS or OLED

[@SideFlame]

IPS has one over huge drawback, IPS glow. I actually wouldn't care much about the contrast ratio issue if every single monitor wasn't plagued by some degree of ugly white glow in random corners.

[@dynastes4938]

It's really of question of how sensitive you are. Many people are fine with the VA performance. A friend of mine has been using the AG322QC4 for years now and is absolutely satisfied - and he actually used to be a very high-level CS player. Subjectivity is real with this one, which is why you did the only right thing - test this stuff out for yourself.

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

I completely agree. It is very subjective. Some people really don’t seem to notice that kind of thing. It’s a complete deal breaker for me though.

[@creepershug]

Ayyy I’m the guy who sold you that monitor 😅 sorry again for forgetting the accessory box! Great videos as always dawid ❤

[@RandomRider570]

The Samasung Odyssey G7 has a better panel for response time than the Odyssey G3 (and the Cooler Master one), and it's one of the best monitors (overall) for response times in the Hardware Unboxed review.

[@hoti257]

It is an amazing monitor

[@ARCbirdman]

Yah, it's an amazing va monitor. Still doesn't compare to the best ips monitors for motion clarity

[@TheTryingDutchman]

It's also in a completely different priceclass than the g3 (2.5x more expensive where I live)

[@ironeleven]

Yeah HUB's talked about this in the past, VA and IPS are very comparable at the high end with newer and more expensive panels, but show their stereotypical downsides in older/cheaper panels.

[@ARCbirdman]

@@ironeleven the g7 doesn't have an old cheap panel. And it only competes with ips displays that are a few years old. Va is good for movies and web scrolling, that's pretty much it

[@dioniziomorais8138]

Having fellas testing things by us, so good. Thank you very much, Dawid!

[@kingkong445]

I explore you to try those Samsung monitors you mentioned (either the neo g7 or neo g8). I rock the G8 and black smearing is essentially non existent, it’s extremely impressive. Sadly the g8 does have scanline issues at 240hz mode however the g7 doesn’t suffer from that issue at 165hz according to hardware unboxed.

[@blacknemesy]

If you have scanlines at 240hz return it, it is a defect of the panel so you shouldn't have to stick with something broken that has a warranty, at least in EU you don't. That being said, the G8 is great in Doom Eternal and probably any shooter because its curve is somehow better and trashes my PG279Q from Asus in every aspect, and I guess the same goes for the G7. The G8 is one of the best monitor in the market unfortunately it has a lot of issues that pop-up over time if you are unlucky but that is due to QC from Samsung

[@oshotz]

I'd really like to throw my thoughts in but... my new IPS monitor is $600 more than my previous VA panel, so I can't really give a fair comparison. What I can say, though, is that my new monitor gets SO much brighter than my old one, which helps with the perceived contrast ratio SIGNIFICANTLY. The colors just pop so much more than they used to, so if you get a good enough panel, the contrast ratio isn't even a disadvantage with IPS. That being said, the story is probably different for similar-specced VA panels as my new one, but I much prefer IPS as everything is just so much clearer.

[@ikram2512]

U can find a cheaper ips panel now at 150 dollar 1080p and 165hertz too

[@jwoody8815]

Nice! Its been a long time since ive heard anyone explain panel tech. Im a bit of an expert because I was an early LCD adopter back when a 15" panel could go north of $400.00, I find modern IPS can rival even the best VA panels and wipe the floor with any TN&Film, In fact id rather have SIPS for gaming even with the sub 1ms responce times of TN, Like my trusty 2K Viewsonic VP770 VERY little smear and thats at a rated 8ms B/W, My favorite part is the very wide ranging and accurate color. I find high refresh serperfilous.

[@rinkyouma2320]

Thanks for the info brother! I am checking some IPS monitor to replace my VA one.

[@TheGamerTazz]

I've had an AOC C24G1 for the past 3 years, going for the CQ27G2U. (1080p to 1440p) As i play alot during night time (especially autumn-winter) i found the VA panel perfect for me, considering i also watch movies and tv series. i never even knew about smearing so i guess i'm not bothered by it even in fast paced games. I also find the curved monitors more appealing as i'm just a meter away.

[@cpljimmyneutron]

I have to ask, did you use hdmi or displayport? Because I have a Viewsonic 32" VA 1440 @ 144hz... and I use displayport, and all settings like overdrive are disabled while using displayport because they are controlled from the computer. Also, blur/smearing has not been a problem for me, and I much prefer the better color reproduction and higher contrast.

[@arsicpedja]

They are disabled because you are using freesync/gsync :) When you turn those off then you get back your overdrive options ;)

[@letsplayskyrimle9391]

Today I bought an OLED (LG 42C3) to replace my old and beloved VA (Philips BDM4065UC), which served me for almost 7 years. IPS was out of the question! The absence of blacks or the hypersaturation of colors to try to compensate for the absence of blacks are too noticeable for me to be able to ignore these defects. However, I know people who prefer an IPS to an OLED or a VA.

[@johnarigi11]

My main problem with VA is eye strain! I cannot stand it no matter how many other strengths VA panels have. I also haven't used the OP Odyssey G7 /G8 though so I don't know if those ones also induce eye strain. I'd like to hear people's views on this.

[@maddieh6093]

I just switched from a VA to a Samsung G4 IPS. The motionblur in any slightly dark scene was so unbearable on the VA, and I really love using IPS now.

[@InimicusSolitus]

Just ordered a VA display today to replace my current VA display. I like the black levels, and don't play fast action games.

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

That’s awesome. Enjoy your new monitor. 👍

[@InimicusSolitus]

@@DawidDoesTechStuff Thanks! I'm getting a Dell S3422dWG ultra wide. I'll let you know how it goes.

[@MarginalSC]

I have a GN950 on one system and an old 60hz LG 32 in 4k VA panel on my other system. I haven't really noticed smearing on the VA panel. Mainly just appreciated that I could actually see what I was supposed to be fighting in a cave in Witcher 3. Sometimes that contrast ratio gets kinda vital for game play. Still favor the GN950 for a whole lotta reasons.

[@lachlanbrown8110]

I think it also depends how sensitive you are to the smearing. I have friends with VA monitors and they swear they can't see any difference between VA and IPS for motion rendering. It's really something personal you need to try in a store before you decide on one or the other. I can't stand VA and only use IPS.

[@JoMaABC]

Dawid, that ad for BeQuiet felt like a movie trailer, or perhaps a PPV promo! Quite well done, so much so that I watched it 3 times. An ad. Also monitors and stuff.

[@SJutigard]

Interesting video. I have a Gigabyte VA monitor. I specifically chose a VA panel because I hate the washed out look of an IPS panel. My tv is an oled so going to the IPS it looks terrible. The motion blur is annoying but not as much as the lack of contrast on the IPS, for me. The next question I guess would be why didn’t I get an oled monitor. Mainly because they were difficult to find at the time (just as covid was kicking off) and I don’t want to deal with image retention.

[@MirelRC]

The picture quality of an IPS is good as overall, the only but is the black. If you're gonna encounter too much black yeah the image is gonna be washed out, but if you have colored images then you'll see how good color volume is on IPS.

[@kigasdj2]

IPS has best color reproduction from all panels, not sure what you mean washed out, VA and TN panels all look washed out. There is only 2 usuable panels IPS and OLED :)

[@x8jason8x]

Newer OLEDs don't really burn in anymore. Why do people keep saying this? The first runs of LG's OLED panels were the only ones susceptible to bad burn in, and even then, it had to have static images on screen for months.

[@MirelRC]

@@x8jason8x I wonder how it does the new Evo panel. On C1, the burns can get in few months runing 12 hours a day in Store Mode but on TV cable on news and sports channels. I mention Store mode because it will get maximum brightnes + that ugly dynamic image mode, no eco etc. The only things being on is pixel shifting.

[@x8jason8x]

@@MirelRC I couldn't say for the Evo panel, but on my C1, I've had it on for the majority of 18 months and change, no burn in. I turn it off once in a while for pixel refresh anyway.

[@Castigar48]

I have a 27in gigabyte va panel ( borderlands 2, monster hunter world and kingdom hearts) im very surprised im not getting such bad black smearing

[@azrans4644]

To fix VA smearing you need to play in limited RGB or lower contrast.

[@WolfChen]

Then you lose the benefit of VA technology. At this point, buy a IPS monitor.

[@Pixel_FX]

Went from an IPS monitor to a VA TV. Samsung TU series. blacks/contrast ratio is so good. IPS look shit when u watch movies.

[@NotSandhorst]

facts im on a VA monitor right now the colours are really bad tooo edit: i think its worth the money cause theyre a lot cheaper though

[@vitalsteve1]

same imo. for a $450 monitor my s3422dwg really really good. i want an AW3423DW, but for 3x the amount i cant see it being 3x better...

[@ARCbirdman]

But...they aren't really cheaper at all...

[@ClellBiggs]

As long as a monitor doesn't have a massive amount of backlight bleed I'm good. I've been trained by monitor (and TV) manufactures to always expect some kind of issue.

[@jjrazra]

I've never really had an issue with my va panel, I use an odyssey g9, and I've never really been able to find something so long (not tall, as I don't want a tv) that doesn't have a va panel

[@Mr.N0B0DY.3D]

as someone who bought a va panel recently I can say that first time using it, the smearing hits you. but because i have a 32 inch that i dont sit infront of maybe like 2m away. i dont notice the bluriness at all. bt sitting very close will hurt my eyes as they try to focus. with that said, i noticed that its mostly very deep colours and white that has the most smearing. to be clear though it not motion blur you seeing. its ghosting which creates the same effect but isnt exactly the same. a high refresh VA will have a clear image that has the ghost trails over it.

[@grrkaa8450]

spoiler alert: VA does not suck at all and "Dawid" just has some individual preferences and doesn't mind milky grey blacks and poor contrast

[@lucutes2936]

Yeah bad vid

[@MusicMath123]

Very happy to stick with my gaming NT Asus 27. Dont mind little color difference!

[@krazyolie]

It’s definitely personal preference. At lower frame rates a bit of blur makes motion handling more natural.. one of the issues with oleds is the sample and hold on 24p content. At higher framerates you probably want the rendering to handle it. Still, if you move your head around things look blurry, I crisp clear moving image is not natural looking but some want that in games

[@merdax2760]

is VA for competitive games ? because i have the choice between a 165hz tn or 240hzVA ?

[@Katari_Kityama]

I have a MSI Optix MAG301CR2 30" next to a LG UltraGear 34GK950F 34" on my desktop system and the 200hz refresh rate of the VA panel in the MSI monitor vs the 144 hz refresh rate of the LG panel certainly helps.

[@zaidlacksalastname4905]

I've been using a VA panel for a year. It was my first "gaming monitor" which could be why but it's never been a problem for me. I don't play competitive fps games though (have beaten doom and doom eternal's w/dlc on nightmare with it though) so maybe it's worse for those.

[@zaidlacksalastname4905]

@Slywerk ig it depends on what you're playing

[@Zatchillac]

I've only been using IPS and I tried my friends VA one time and hated it. Looked terrible compared to mine

[@jotapeeee4009]

@@Zatchillac IPS has generally worse picture quality than VA though. Depends on each model, however.

[@johnyjohn6468]

I didn't understand the difference in different panel types such as VA, IPS, OLED until I started researching after buying an odyssey Neo G8 Qled which is a VA panel. I had no idea what ghosting was until I got this monitor and I regretted it more than any other purchase in my entire life. DO NOT get a VA panel if you play competitive and need snappy reaction and zero distraction! I returned the G8 and bought an OLED instead.

[@Amin_2k]

0:17 genuinely see no noticable difference.

[@higorss]

If you can't see the black trail you're blind

[@andreamaral9725]

It's very minor and most likely this is a very average VA panel and not a good quality one that can effectively eliminate these issues

[@ototurmanidze5578]

​@@andreamaral9725i have that on asus

[@OsakaSan]

I have exactly that one last monitor, and it's infamous for its slow pixel response. When it comes to VA, you should look for fast pixel color switching, because that's where the smearing comes from

[@ridiculous_gaming]

I own a number of VA panels and enjoy them. To me, they are poor man's Oleds with fantastic blacks. I don't even notice the smearing.

[@Mark-nu3us]

I got a great deal on a new monitor, my old one was 11 years old. Hooked it up and was amazed by the depth of the blacks, then I scrolled, my eyes said, "Ouch." Then I loaded up a game, and the 'smearing' was something I had NO CONCEPT of... After maybe 5 seconds it gave me a headache... It was just SO BAD. What's the point of paying bookoo bucks for a graphics card if the monitor just shows it as blurry and smearing at any pixel movement?!?! Sceptre C30, 200Hz 1ms response time, colors are beautiful, the motion blur and smearing is SO BAD... I just don't understand HOW or WHY anyone would ever use a gaming monitor that literally has motion blur and smearing built into it!!

[@sussy_61]

if you are rich,just buy oled

[@unknown185]

Nah burn in, fringing, brightness

[@joshb6470]

Anna comes home and finds 18 monitor boxes in the recycling, looks up the accounting entry to use them as christmas gifts and tells Dawid to sign them and repack them for personalization.

[@Seansmit23]

I have a Samsung odyssey g7 32" you showed at the end and it's a great monitor. High end va panels are much better. I have had this monitor for 2 ish years now and I have not noticed any smearing or lag in the image

[@stillready6405]

That's the best video I have seen so far on that topic. Thank you, I had a really hard time to understand the differences while reading all sorts of specs!

[@Jenkie6969]

I bought my first gaming monitor a year ago and it was a 144hz VA monitor. I was really amazed of the smoothness of the gameplay, but like 2 months ago I started to feel the blurness and horrific ghosting that monitor had. So I was kinda worried and I bought few days ago an IPS monitor and I'm so happy about it. The ghosting and everything is so much better. I won't ever by a VA monitor. Cheers

[@Xsuprio]

I got (and will return) a Mag 345CQR last week. All reviews for it are great! And I'm like... am I nuts? Specially black to gray... YUCH! Adjusting some settings made the smearing less. Only LESS, mind you. Thanks for restoring my sanity... with this 2 year old video...

[@MMOStein]

TN is still the best for gaming. Idgaf what anyone says. The End.

[@matcauthon1081]

Oled ftw

[@motoghetto4421]

Yes, I agree (but enjoy ur washed out, bad viewing angle screen). I had TN Panel previously and I'm satisfied playing competitive games. I have VA Panel rn and I totally regret buying it.

[@VanguardDragon]

Very interesting comparisons, thank you Dawid! I would love to see you look at the Odyssey, I've heard very good things about that panel.

[@hircine92h]

VA panels sucks.

[@alyessamaddox7022]

I've used three monitors in the last five years, and I just stopped using a VA panel a few weeks ago (oled time) I upgraded to a 165 hz VA panel from Asus, after using a... Samsung? 1080p 60hz monitor that was from before the invention of displayport. I never noticed the black smearing too much, or maybe had no idea what motion looked like without it, but had more serious issues with VRR flickering that made the monitor more or less impossible to use with GSYNC enabled.

[@fractalized3]

2:06 "Really difficult to spot" "everything just kinda blurs" - IGNORES THE FACT THAT HE'S PLAYING WITH FPS BELOW 60. Genius take.

[@higorss]

So basically VA is horrible for console players and 30-60 fps gamers?

[@Beezleybuzz]

I'm using the Gigabyte G32QC-A (post Xmas sale) and I'm very happy with it. The smearing seems to be at a minimum and the contrast and colours are just gorgeous!

[@Snow_Leopard]

I’m just sure that the best minds of humanity are right now developing a new matrix technology without the disadvantages of VA and IPS. And it's not O LED.

[@godofdeath8785]

Seems like microled can be this technology

[@DryadMachine]

Had a VA panel for about three days last year until i noticed the black smearing and returned it. The monitor was an MSI Optix G241V. The first time I noticed the smearing was when I was checking the monitor's specs on the MSI website which are display in a alternate grey and black table. Once I saw the black overshoot I could never unsee it.

[@colinoleary207]

I have a VA monitor that I do all my gaming on, specifically the "GIGABYTE G27QC 27" 165 Hz 1440P Curved Gaming Monitor". I have never noticed any problem with motion blur and honestly really enjoy it. Strangely, I think my only complaint with it has ever been that I don't think the colors are rich enough. While I am not new to gaming, I have only started gaming on a PC at the beginning of 2021. Before that, I would play on consoles on the couch with a TV for display, which were never high refresh rate TVs but did have a very vivid and rich picture. Maybe the motion blur of VA monitors never bothered me because this 165 Hz refresh rate monitor was such a dramatic increase over a TV in terms of smoothness and I only really notice picture quality differences.

[@thiagodelacroix]

There is a way to prevent black smearing on a VA monitor. You need to set the highest Gamma available, Max Overdrive and increase the Shadows by 10 points in you monitor's configs. That way you will avoid over 90% of any kind of smearing, but you will sacrifice the high contrast level on those kind of monitors.

[@Murrummba]

If the whole point of the monitor is the high contrast, why would you want to do this?

[@thiagodelacroix]

@@Murrummba you can set high contrast settings for the not so fast games, like the games focused on the history telling or for your videos. And, on more competitive and fast games, you can use that config I mentioned, so you don't need to change the monitor for diferent content, options. Nobody wanna smearing effect on a competitive scenario, it makes you dizzy and compromises your performance since you can't see what is in the screen when it's smearing.

[@merdax2760]

@@thiagodelacroix is VA for competitive games ? because i have the choice between a 165hz tn or 240hzVA ?

[@thiagodelacroix]

@@merdax2760 For competitive scenario, I rather the IPS panel even considering the better refresh rate on VA. 165hz is good enough already. I don't like the TN's image quality, it lacks constrast and color range, the image quality on VA is way better the TN's. But, for your gameplay performance, the TN would be slightly better.

[@merdax2760]

@@thiagodelacroix even if it 165hz