Why Vietnam is Not "In Play" in the U.S.-China Rivalry

[@inlee99]

I have heard "Communist China" so many times but never heard "Communist Vietnam" from our media, why is that ?...

[@marvinfok65]

That is what Western media does! If one fine day US decides to mudsling Vietnam, they will start with that Communist Vietnam again just like what they did during the Vietnam war!

[@kennedy6618]

@inlee, US controls the media across the world. China is progressing too fast and US is jealous about China.

[@DiamondHandle]

😂😂😂

[@YenzikovALCherasLegend]

That what U.S. and the West European Imperialist do and still practicing in most Asian Nation particularly those nations of the Oriental. They will never ever let any Asian Nation rise and "Communism' is use as a tool to divide these Orientals in order to control and rules them thru' their influence. United States had almost destroy Vietnam and will the Vietnamese forget and forgive ? Only those Greedy Oriental like the Japanese and South Korean who sold and pawn their own soul to the American and worse the Korean is still killing their brothers ,sisters , fathers and mothers.

[@joeawk]

China's communism is more about socialist capitalism, a far more humanistic model and ideology than the unfettered capitalism in the west which enslaved the people in the west.

[@alansyb232]

Vietnam is a communist regime. US hated communists, when then seek Vietnam asan ally. What a hypocrit

[@richardgoh8725]

A devil will seek another devil to destroy an angel. This is natural. All you need is to study humanity.

[@tagodain]

USA has been and is trying to steer the world towards democracy. What better way than converting? If USA wanted to force countries under its rule, it would have done it at the end of World War 2, and no country would have resisted; even now, if USA want to use force, no other countries can resist it.

[@tonywyli]

USA doesn't hate communist regime. It only hates those countries that would threaten it's hegemony.

[@danhtran6401]

Viet Nam might be communist but they have KZbin... they're not like North Korea and China...oh and Russia... Only criminals need to control the voices of the people....

[@jerryle379]

Just like how they become allied with communist china in the 1970s , china biggest mistake was betray the Soviet and communist in 1970s short run it benefit china , long run it hurt china as it lead to a war .

[@DonaldYoung-pn7tc]

how could Vietnam ever forgotten the Chemical warfare 'Agent Orange ' by united states ???!

[@peanut0brain]

Same as how can Philippines forget america invaded them in the 1890s and killed 1M of their fellow men?

[@KhmerKandal]

Never, it will get even one day 😮

[@liaojohnweechun7454]

GREAT INFORMATIVE DISCUSSION 👍

[@tagodain]

It’s just simple: Staying neutral is not that different from being with China because if the war happens, and Vietnam is not an ally of Western (USA), it has no choice but work with China.

[@pito6979]

That kind of mindset, if u r not with us, then you are against us. Isn't it?

[@danhtran6401]

You can't even touch Taiwan now you want a war with VN?... 😂

[@tagodain]

@@danhtran6401 Taiwan is being protected by the USA and other Western Countries because Taiwan is their ally. Just look at the number of USA fleets surrounding Taiwan, and you’ll see. Without USA’s protection, China would have taken over Taiwan a long time ago.

[@hilp1993]

Informative

[@aleaiactaest8354]

Excellent episode.

[@davidbedford7835]

One thing you must learn about US politics is there are no coincidences

[@davidhoang6360]

Even know I have been living in UK for over four decades I still never want to visit usa as respect for over three million Vietnamese during us Vietnam war which ended April 30th 1975.

[@hawkkim1974]

Vietnam fought brutal Vietnam war with America. Then Vietnam fought another war with China. Historically this is the history of Vietnam. They always choose to be independent. Vietnam will take advantage of the rivalry between the US and China. They will never take any side even if this causes economic loss for Vietnam.

[@isthisme-ct9fe]

Do you know why china fought vietnam in 1979?

[@Honestandtruth007]

During Vietnam and American war,...... Without Khmer King HELP...... The Viet Kong government would have been toasted and become Fried Rice. That's FACT

[@KhmerKandal]

​@lucysatanas9938Behind the scene.....politics

[@Wecareus]

This is an interesting episode providing so much insights about China and Vietnam relationships and to a great extent how distorted and ignorant Western media reporting on Asia and Africa. WSJ as cited in the podcast is a good example - ever since they were sold to Rudolph of Australia, they have become a biased media with agenda and ill intentions. Thank you for your good work!

[@CN_SFY_General]

If Vietnam is intelligent, Vietnam shall stay neutral and use its neutral position to get what it wants from both China and the United States. Not be as stupid as Ukraine!

[@HungNguyen-if9qh-j3z]

Ok. Vietnam is already doing that. Ukraine (leadership) is so foolish to have brought their country to the point of collapse like today despite having the capability to avoid it.

[@joeawk]

Just like Taiwan. Depends on the leaders. The people are Chinese.

[@TeeSpells]

US always talk security never development concerning Africa

[@hendrasalim8883]

Smart move

[@PKVeteran]

In the Vietnam war, the Vietnamese ally of the US lost everything. The problem may be corruption. Today, Vietnam is still corrupt. In that since it doesn’t matter too much which side it is on, as it is a liability. The other issue is, Vietnam is next to China. It does not want to go against China regardless of friendly it can be towards

[@jerryle379]

All countries are corrupt mates , just some made it legal ( lobby ) . China actually are biggest corrupt country if you think about it , but now that xi are the supreme ruler he manage to scrub it somewhat

[@peanut0brain]

Look at yankee govt for massive scale corruption via lobbying

[@davidnek8196]

Vietnam like most countries would play a game it can win,

[@KhmerKandal]

Vietnam can slip and fall back to China if making a slight mistake.

[@MRT-co1sd]

Vietnam always supports China on the surface.

[@herchickenlegs4]

I'm not exactly sure if Vietnamese are still trying to fight their water economic zone against China in the south sea or they are trying to have a good relationship with China even though their rights of the the south sea are also very important for their economy Why is that? We all know that the Philippines is still fighting for their water rights until at present and not giving up for sure...

[@nmew6926]

May be the Vietnamese understand the bigger picture. They understand that China national security matters more than sovereignty dispute. China militarization of SCS is the reaction to the 350 US military bases in Japan, Korea, Philippines and Australia. If the US can sacrifice 10,000 islanders of BIKINI Islands for the only sake of nuclear experiment on humans, then why can't China disregard Pinoy objection rgd SCS for the sake of China national security. How many Pinoys were killed by PLA. Not as much as 10,000 as in BIKINI island

[@joeawk]

Vietnamese are Chinese. The bureaucrats are different because they are still Frenchie. The Central post office in Ho Chi Minh shows time of many cities but that of Beijing has the clock missing.

[@inlee99]

I always thought Vietnamese are different from other East Asians like Japanese and Korean who still use classical Chinese characters. I have not seen any of Chinese characters in Vietnamese language.

[@danhtran6401]

And Beijing is Russia's capitol. They have the same white paper policies, an unlimited joint dictatorship, and the will to ignore international borders.

[@richardgoh8725]

Tribal as other minorities of China. China has no problem dealing with minorities.@HoLeeFook68

[@luongo7886]

Please do not insult us Viets by saying we are chinese.

[@KhmerKandal]

​​@@inlee99Language and not on written form. Chinese characters can be found in temples and ancient buildings.

[@PKVeteran]

If we look at just post 1945 you miss a lot of the experience. The country started breaking from China, fighting and invading China , ally with other countries to invade China. Trying to learn about Vietnamese from the context of the colonized by Chinese, French, American is very short and narrow scope. Today is no different than the days before the French arrival. Vietnam trying to make it.

[@tagodain]

Since the fall of South Vietnam in 1975, Vietnam fell under China again.

[@HungNguyen-if9qh-j3z]

Is Vietnam trying to invade China? Do you have a nervous problem? A country that is too small compared to China (population is 1/14, area is 1/30 of China) is trying to recover after decades of war, just wanting peace to rebuild the country, instead of invading a giant country right next to it? The leaders of Vietnam are not crazy to do that. China has wanted to split Vietnam in half like the Korean Peninsula in 1954, then tried every way to prevent Vietnam from unifying in the 1970s, and China itself provided all the resources for Pol Pot to attack Vietnam in 1978 and sent 600,000 troops to attack the Vietnamese border in 1979. With all that, what do you want Vietnam to think about China?

[@brucelu4782]

@@HungNguyen-if9qh-j3z For 3000 yrs, Japan was insignificant to China, only 120 yrs ago it suddenly became strong, then quickly invaded China and a lot of people died. What happened? The outsiders came, they fought the major power in the region, also prop up the weaker players in the region to challenge and topple the major power. Then the outsiders can rule everybody

[@HungNguyen-if9qh-j3z]

@@brucelu4782 No, it's all just a pretext for China's expansionist and hegemonic intentions. With actions such as: scheming to divide our country, like the Korean Peninsula through the Geneva Accords, trying every way to prevent our unity (failed because we united in 1975), then nurturing, equipping Pol Pot to instigate attacks on us at the southern border, mobilizing 600,000 troops to invade our northern border to defeat our country but all failed (you know English, you can find the truth about these two wars on the internet). The Chinese government may deceive the Chinese people, but how can they deceive the world? They know it all. It's ridiculous when you try to defend those actions. Today, we have put the past behind us (but we will never forget) to focus on peace, stability, and development for the two countries. We are a peace-loving nation, just wanting tranquility for development

[@HungNguyen-if9qh-j3z]

@@brucelu4782 No, it's all just a pretext for China's expansionist and hegemonic intentions. With actions such as: scheming to divide our country, like the Korean Peninsula through the Geneva Accords, trying every way to prevent our unity (failed because we united in 1975), then nurturing, equipping Pol Pot to instigate attacks on us at the southern border, mobilizing 600,000 troops to invade our northern border to defeat our country but all failed (you know English, you can find the truth about these two wars on the internet). The Chinese government may deceive the Chinese people, but how can they deceive the world? They know it all. It's ridiculous when you try to defend those actions. Today, we have put the past behind us (but we will never forget) to focus on peace, stability, and development for the two countries. We are a peace-loving nation, just wanting tranquility for development

[@feihongwong2524]

Seem like a snake with two head