Why Was Shedinja Banned in Competitive Hacked Pokemon?

[@blakebenner2070]

You should talk about the suspect test in Metronome Battles, and how Fur Coat was banned while Ice Scales and Fluffy were not

[@senpai2.054]

probably cause Fluffy doesnt double the defense stat (and gives the user a fire weakness), and ice scales also dong double the sp.def stat (also therr are a lot more physical moves than special)

[@Begeru]

Why was it banned?

[@senpai2.054]

@@Begeru it doubles the defense stat with no drawbacks. its just defensive Pure Power

[@_lostglory]

@@senpai2.054 Ice Scales does better than double the defense stat, it halves special damage taken, including Psyshock

[@jpshy1130]

Doesn’t fluffy half physical damage

[@Edujs23]

The removal of pursuit might be one of the most impactful decisions on the competitive scene

[@fractalisomega9517]

It ruined so many pokemon and enabled stall RIP Ttar

[@phillipanselmo8540]

on the smogon scene* pursuit wasn't used in vgc at all

[@ninjagaro.]

sacrificing singles balance for vgc balance

[@phillipanselmo8540]

@@ninjagaro. it didn't affect vgc though

[@AacroX]

@@fractalisomega9517 Tyranitar is still OU tho

[@playboikaniiii]

sometimes just removing one brick from this "pokemon balance" tower results in shedinja being overpowered

[@ink3487]

Idk giving any pokemon any ability, any 4 moves, and maxed IVs seems like a lot of bricks in the pokemon balance tower

[@lillypad6936]

We have now seen evidence of this in gen 9 nat dex. Really, shedinga is a boolean variable. It's either useless, or extremely overpowered.

[@tysondennis1016]

@@lillypad6936it hard counters kyogre

[@slashine1071]

Uhh... sturdy shedinja is plain ridiculous to face, it's not really a matter of a single brick

[@trauma0866]

In VGC, shedinja isn't a very good pokemon because it doesn't really do much, while fire and rock types are very consistenly relevant types (also rock slide is busted). However, the moment a restricted format comes up, shedinja's viability skyrockets because it completely counters kyogre, xerneas and zacian, while groudon has to "waste" a fire punch to target it risking a protect. It can become an autowin condition, and while on the firld it can spread burns and deal some damage with poltergeist (spread is always max attack because there isn't a point in anything else, and it has a respectable 90 base stat) and threaten low healt mons with shadow sneak. (Also it has now access to ally switch, but we don't talk about that). Still, it isn't really used much, but it's a constant thorn in the side both in teambuilding, teampreview and during the match. Fun fact, shedinja is the only pokemon in the game for which endure is better than protect, since it's effectively the same since it has one hp, but protect gets broken by urshifu, while endure doesn't. Weathers are very strong in restricted formats, and sun in particular is the strongest, but sun itself can use shedinja to great effect against rain, other venusaurs and regielekis, other restricted legendaries..... The reason why it's still not that good is because there are increasingly more ways to deal with it, and some of the best pokemons in the game can defeat it. The most used items are safety goggles, which also stops powders, and the ever faithful focus sash.

[@phantomfire5013]

Unburden Liechi berry reversal hitmonlee takes endure over protect as well.

[@trauma0866]

@@phantomfire5013 yes, but that's not used in VGC

[@user-fe8gx3ie5v]

@@trauma0866 Shedinja is decent to good in Restrricted formats.

[@TwoHeadedMeerkat]

I know Shedinja is probably reponsible for that species clause addition, but I wanna go back to the good ol' days where I could run a full team of six Farfetch'd, starting every battle introducing ourselves as "The Farfetch'd Brigade," and how we're there to kick their teeth in.

[@DoodleWill]

If you ran a team of 6 ludicolo you'd get miror b's theme

[@RGC_animation]

You can still do that tho, just not in VGC.

[@EXFrost]

@@RGC_animation or on the absolute of smogon formats? So where would you use it?

[@RGC_animation]

@@EXFrost In regular Pokemon.

[@EXFrost]

@@RGC_animation ye but u cant beat people up in comp with farfetchd if ur playing singleplayer or casual link battle (i dont remember if that has species clause or not)

[@BladeRabbit]

You should make a video about why sleep is banned in competitive hacked mons despite sleep clause being a thing. Or maybe a video about all the currently banned moves like DIB and Octolock.

[@Musasensei1674]

Dib can be combined with serene grace and fast pokemons..So u will get flinch most of the times..and octolock is a crazy trapping move

[@Mustache99]

@@Musasensei1674 for octlock if you have contrary It can give you a huge boost

[@mr.krustykrust]

@@Mustache99 and octolock made entrainment normalize ghost types stupid powerful. I remember sweeping in early BH with dragon memory dragapult. You’d set up while they got weak and then ran through the whole team. Couldn’t be stopped by imp either unless they ran a memory for some reason

[@Ryan-lh1np]

@@Mustache99 contrary is pretty bad tho tbh, it needs more setup than other sweep attackers and needs to be improofed very badly

[@nothanz7409]

@@Mustache99 isn't contrary banned

[@troykv96]

Removing Pursuit was what break the camel's back, before it's removal, Pursuit Moldbreak was basically a guarantee K.O. against Sturdy Shedinja, it's ultimate counter... but isn't longer possible.

[@bebe8090]

2:06 I was going to ask why you would use imposter Chansey rather than Blissey, but I looked it up and it seems that eviolite works based off of the original pokemon rather than what it has transformed into. Thank you friend.

[@clairebit]

This format honestly seems so cool, I’d love to mess around with some of my favorite Pokémon that don’t have a place in standard tiers like Farfetch’d and Emolga 🥰

[@balancemaster55]

As someone who’s main ladder is balanced hackmons I’m telling you that those mons are not that good high ladder but anywhere from 1000-1300 you can make a team with half your mons being gimmicks but if you wanna stay over 1500 you probably won’t be able to using mons without really good typings/stats

[@redtube8667]

Game knowledge is everything in BH so be careful on how you build teams. Not knowing one move or ability can cost you games. (Example, up until Gen 8 Dazzlesmash was a common set that abused Shell Smash's ability to allow easy wall breaking with Dazzling blocking priority killers like Triage sweepers or -ate killers)

[@diegoxavier9107]

@@redtube8667 And stuff like Sap Sipper Swampert and Flash Fire Ferrothorn is everywhere, too. Even if they don't have it, you're never going to want to use a grass move on Swampert just because of the possibility

[@Ryan-lh1np]

BH is unfortunately an incredibly team building focused gamemode. It doesn't matter near as much if you can make good predictions, your team just needs to be able to deal with all the low elo cheese garbage while also being viable against meta sets. Things like poison heal xern or regigas and offensive eternatus or palkia are stupidly strong. random mons don't have much use unless they have incredible typings or stats. In spite of all this however, it's an incredibly fun gamemode and you can gimmick your way to like 1400 for a great time.

[@balancemaster55]

@@Ryan-lh1np that low level cheese has many outs and doesn’t work in higher level for many reasons, also predication is super important in balanced hackmons can a single mistake can mean you lose your mon considering you can use some set ups like unburden sitrus berry belly drum, unburden power herb geomancy, simple no retreat (on a ghost type so you can retreat), and many others. Team building isn’t the only thing in balanced hackmons but it’s more important cause you have accessibility to so much more.

[@Rarest26]

I remember running a refrigerate espeed Kyurem Black in gen 7 hackmons and slapping Sunsteel Strike on it to destroy Shedinja, and it was fun. Plus, now that DIB is banned, it's not outclassed by it anymore, so in the hypothetical case that they unban it, we have actual options.

[@stealthgamer4620]

They just need to bring back megas like M-Gengar (keep Spectrier-C banned for gods sake) and M-Tyranitar with that effective Sand Stream. MTtar and M-Diancie had the best synergies. Having Shedinja makes my experience more worth while. 🤦🏽‍♂️🤓I used him on every team.

[@trauma0866]

I like how in the viability rankings chansey is straigthup called imposter

[@siberiangopnik]

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[@Manivilization]

pretty sure it’s just showing where imposter generally is placed - i don’t play the tier but i’m sure there are other viable options with large hp that may have some good assets such as better speed to have a faster imposter than other imposters

[@Manivilization]

or maybe because chansey is forced into eviolite you might want a blissey with shoes on or a scarf on

[@redtube8667]

@@Manivilization there are like 5 or so viable Imposters, with Chansey ranking number 1. Chansey's eviolite combined with the second highest HP stat allows their imposters to reverse sweep much easier and lowers the chance of -ate-killers or faster threats from removing the Chansey. Blissey is usually ran with scarf so it always outspeeds the sweeper it imposters. Guzzlord and Zygarde-Complete are just niche and either get run with Leftovers or Scarfs. And finally, and maybe surprisingly, Pikachu is better than Zygarde and Guzzlord because of Light Ball. The extra +2 makes any offensive threat it imposters deadly without the need of a stat boost. Its massive drawback is the base 50 (I think) HP making it extremely frail and hard to use. Getting it on board isn't easy, and it's forced out by faster threats. It's better than Guzzlord and Zygarde-Complete because of that and Blissey just being the better Scarfer, so if you're not using Chansey/Blissey it'd be better to just use the Pikachu or not Imposter at all.

[@redtube8667]

You could also run Imposter Blissey holding a Spooky Plate to bluff the Scarf and bait the Normalize Mega Gengar into trying to set up on it so you can immediately knock it out. This is really niche though, it can be really good but it needs NMG to be popular, so it fluctuates in usability

[@sarasaland4709]

I love how Zacian Crowned is so unbalanced that even HackMons doesn't want it around.

[@ElectroBlastLuigi]

False Swipe Gaming: *makes a video about Ninjask* Freezai: *makes video about Shedinja* Coincidence?

[@jagjitpradhan2038]

I think nooot

[@Chrispy]

everyday is a good day when Freezai uploads

[@massimilianodelrosso5495]

It's incredible how much an held item managed to change so many metagames at once.

[@skyeschlueter9877]

Largely because stealth rocks themselves were overtuned to the point of being meta defining, so introducing any counterplay that doesn't cost you MULTIPLE TURNS to use is huge.

[@ninjaniknik6136]

I do wish though that you still had to ev normally in balanced. Gen6 pure hackmons has normal evs which helps with balance a lot.

[@TheSpeep]

I love how the moment you actually start talking about Sturdy Shedinja, the first thing you show is 2 Pokemon that normally would have Mold Breaker failing to do anything. Thats irony right there. I remember messing around with Hackmons for a bit years ago, and one of the first things I noticed was that youd basically always want to have some mon with Mold Breaker on your team.

[@teaguzzler3392]

lack of reliable counterplay + the absence of anything running moves to reliably damage it easily pushed it over the edge

[@anaconja]

☝🤣 bruv innit

[@sharpclawv2]

You parents left you. Here's why (its clefable)

[@trenchcoatdoggo5185]

Indubitably.

[@NobodyDungeons]

Sun steel strike is nice because it lets ignore abilities like fur coat, and unaware which can make sweeping difficult.

[@YuseiTheSynchroHero]

Shedinja really breaking the game xD Also, apparently he can wear da timbs

[@homuraakemi3287]

You should do a video on Imposter Chansey/Bliss in BH and how it warps the format around its existence and its huge usage rate

[@Ferax2k10]

Sturdy shedinja could be easily fixed if they could increase his hp to 2 hp instead of 1

[@lordnatu]

That's a weird change for the sake of an unplayable meta

[@petruciosxd1374]

I'm pretty sure Shedinja's HP is hard coded to be 1 at all times even though a base HP stat of 1 would otherwise result in a much higher amount at level 100 (for Shedinja, at least). EVs would also work, then.

[@Hensley_Jb]

Why would they do that

[@ElHarmonyV]

They will never do this as hackmons is an unofficial mode.

[@MTF_Epsolon-9]

I love playing pure hackmons and i can confirm that sturdy shedinja is a really nasty pest but multi-hit moves completely counter it

[@redtube8667]

I would love more videos on BH meta. You should do a video about why Mega Ray was banned from Gen 7 BH

[@lududelubin3011]

He was?

[@redtube8667]

@@lududelubin3011 yes. He was by far the deadliest individual pokemon in BH and you couldn't check one set without leaving yourself open to other equally viable sets (for example: Dazzlesmash Mega Ray needed a different counter than Triage or Aerilate)

[@jaimeXDgo]

One thing I'll never understand is the removal of moves like retribution, which made normal type actually relevant, and pursuit, which came with a great mechanic in prediction reward stuff.

[@gypsysprite4824]

i think Pursuit was removed because gamefreak could not be bothered to get Pursuit working vs Dynamax switches and bug test said interaction.

[@ElHarmonyV]

@@gypsysprite4824 Removing it is a step too far i think they could've just made it so that it wouldn't affect dynamax pokemon, i think low kick was disabled against dynamax.

[@llSuperSnivyll]

Likely because it's an irrelevant move in Doubles.

[@metalmario1231]

I see zekrom and excadrill vs the sturdy shedinja and im like "their normal abilities stop this strat dead in its tracks....they also get around shedinjas wonder guard"

[@metalmario1231]

But yeah they do reveal themselves which is something i didnt think about

[@Spunow]

Laughs in mold breaker.*

[@zovrah9993]

it would be cool to see you cover the shedinja suspect test in gen 7 and tall about the most prominent bh team to feature shed at the time, titled penguin by user cityscapes

[@grim_blazer9120]

Thanks for the balanced hackmons video but it’s time for an aaa video

[@vandanagupta4240]

Imagine if you could have 2 abilities on one pokemon Magic guard with wonder guard💀

[@lordnatu]

You can with As One but Unnerve doesn't do much

[@redtube8667]

Pokebilities AAA lets you have two abilities, and Wonder Guard is banned

[@vandanagupta4240]

@@redtube8667 Oh , that makes me happy and sad at the same time

[@villagemarauder]

I used to love coming up with strategies to cancel study shedinja. I mainly use gimmick sets because they're fun. I had a tyrantrum that filled its gimmick role in 3 move slots, so I gave it infestation for shedinja. Nobody saw it coming. Granted, I wasn't exactly a high ladder player...

[@ilavain]

DUDE, the showcased balance hacked pokemon had Rex Orange County's "Apricot Princess" (2017) song names, that's so based

[@lowqualitypicture5528]

the names of the pokemon on the pokepaste thing he showed at the beginning are names of rex orange county songs

[@assault410]

"last straw on the camels back"😄😄😄

[@wispyspectre5128]

I used to run a full team of 6 shedinja back in gen 7 hackmons, calling myself the 'shedinja guru'... Had the typical sturdy set, a magic bounce set to catch things like toxic and stealth rock, a prankster set with recycle for focus sash, and 3 others I can't remember... Genuinely the most fun I'd ever had on Showdown and was actually a respectably powerful team

[@BrettRKS]

great vid freezai

[@prwellzpokemonclipsbattles5914]

Amazing match I’m going to get into it next week! & post it up on my channel!

[@sagacious03]

2:33 Wait, Sleep-inducing moves are banned in Balanced Hackmons? 3:13 Why was Double Iron Bash banned? Anyway, neat analysis video! Thanks for uploading!

[@kitsune_roxi]

double iron bash could be run on something fast like zamazenta to force flinches and is generally considered uncompetitive

[@komborekt7016]

The Shedinja was wearing safety goggles, pads and heavy duty boots :O

[@mysticmongrel1289]

Nobody ever ran partial trapping moves and it was always a fun way to circumvent so much

[@TheMetakev]

I'm sorry, I filtered out most of the video after seeing the Regigigas nicknamed "Si veo a tu mama" - "If I see your mom".

[@TheFrantic5]

"Heavy Duty Boots" IT HAS NO FEET!!!

[@NocturnalPyro]

4:24 so my initial thought was correct, Heavy Duty boots made it too strong.

[@liv9520]

When it wasn't banned I didn't have a problem with sturdy shedinja, my main strat was to use a geomancy simple zygarde-complete to sweep and I always had core enforcer/moongeist beam to hit this

[@22NightWing]

I used to top the Gen 4 Hackmons (not Balanced) with a Level 1 Wonder Guard Sableye with Endeavour and Dragon Rage. Those were fun times!

[@22NightWing]

I'd have a Mean Look, Baton Pass Bulky Giratina that would switch in to Sableye. It also carried Gastro Acid for anything that also had Wonder Guard.

[@24xlilman24]

Heavy duty boots strikes again

[@byzantine5761]

*Any gimmick metagame/main series mechanic exists* WHY CANT YOU JUST BE NORMAL Shedinja: *screams*

[@dreamlanderjoel8162]

What a coincidence that Freezai makes a video on Shedinja the same day False Swipe Gaming makes a video on Ninjask

[@yeseungshin8009]

i love how there are all these banned pokemon with monsterous stats like shadow rider and crowned zacian and there's just cramorant and shedinja

[@harryf9885]

It’s funny that wonder guard is one of the best abilities in the game, and is even restricted from being skill swapped, unlike other insanely strong abilities like huge power, but isn’t even the best ability on shedinja and is surpassed by sturdy, a fairly common ability with no restrictions at all.

[@senpai2.054]

i used to run q funny Prankster Shedinja set that used focus sash + recycle, along with endeavor + accelerock, then either magic coat or spikey shield for the last move slot

[@Thund3rDrag0n12]

Whenever Blunder says to ban something to triple Ubers in his vids, this is what he means

[@zad_rasera]

I knew Heavy-duty Boots would come into play somehow.

[@JDizzle_98]

Freezai taking about Shedinja and False Swipe Gaming talking about Ninjask on the same day. What a coincidence

[@11-aritradas99]

Well we can run Stealth Rock (or other hazards) + weather (like hail) to kill shed. If it's hdb then it loses to weather and if it's safety goggles then it loses to hazards

[@estusshart6470]

“Si veo a tu mamá” LMAO

[@BaniniThePanini]

Sturdy Shedinja is a great example that just because there are counters to something, doesn't mean it isn't broken and unhealthy for the meta game.

[@ElHarmonyV]

What I hate is that they don't seem to think that if a counter is specific it isn't balanced like yeah make yourself weaker in general so you can counter this one broken thing.

[@gusgarrison9211]

The Shed ban hurt as much as the Prankster ban tbh. Shit's why I don't bother with BH anymore

[@tttech_2]

Except prankster isn't banned

[@QueuedUp_]

Genesis of Sin is actually a hilarious name for Xerneus

[@roychaosreaper4688]

Due to that, the only best counters for Shedinja are the users that can have the ability/move that ignores the ability effect.

[@UnknownVir]

Can you have level 1 pokemon in hackmons? Wondering about lvl1 sturdy swinub

[@rendomman1969]

Also usefull for countering other broken stuff

[@Choicexband]

photon geyser, sunsteel strike, and moongeist all hit through unaware

[@RoninofCrimsonMaple]

Can you talk about the Nintendo Cup and how they had a tier list? That seems fun.

[@resyrum5301]

My fave part of gen three is that, for a generation or three, wynaut and Shedinja we're constantly headlining for being Uber tier pokemon

[@tomatogenesis]

Missed opportunity to put "Sturdynja" in the title.

[@stealthgamer4620]

I’ve been looking for a resource on this Shedinja ban. If mega evolutions come back, I don’t think Shedinja will be banned because of certain Pokémon like M-Tyranitar and M-Gengar. It also needs Arceus, its plates and z-crystals. All this in mind makes Shedinja underwhelming, and I like Shedinja. It may sound ridiculous to use Sand Stream, but Sandstorm is a menace because of the +SpD and the chip damage. If Spectrier-C was still legal, that would stop Shedinja, but on the other hand M-Gengar is just as effective with being a hybrid toxic user or Entrainment Normalize. Last thing, if more things were enabled in Hackmons or brought back in Gen 9 Hackmons, Shedinja would definitely be legal, but running Sunsteel Strike and Moongeist Beam blindly is viable. While running Shedinja blindly isn’t. Shedinja with Safety Goggles is too specific, there are literally No Guard Inferno Hooh and Toxic users going around; I’ve never heard of Protective Pads on Shedinja in BH before because Rough Skin and Rocky Helmet would be unviable in this format (Rocky Helm depends). I’d always run Focus Sash or Heavy Duty Boots on my Shedinja. Also to throw people off, I use Magic Guard Focus Sash, it worked on people and someone got it to work on me.

[@anaconja]

national dex balanced hackmons has these changes and shedinja is still overpowered. sunsteel strike / moongeist beam / status users are easily scouted by using imposter and magic bounce and weather is easy to play around: just keep the shed in the back until the last turn of sand, then click uturn if they switch to the sand user.

[@makhseed]

omg imposter chansey LMAO

[@siberiangopnik]

Prankster whimsicott with leech seed + magic bounce for Ditto

[@lordnatu]

Prankster Magic Bounce 🤔

[@RGC_animation]

If Shedinja wasn't banned everyone would just be running Sturdy Heavy duty boot Shedinja.

[@marianogutierrez9519]

In pure hack mobs I just get a deoxys speed to give me all the stat boost in the game and baton pass it to a mold breaker Pokémon

[@hmalba7864]

>FSG uploads a Ninjask video >Freezai uploads a Shedinja video Coincidence? I think NOT!

[@irisrosario5040]

I've encountered Sturdy Shedninja teams but I just click thunder cage(Before getting skill swapped I think) or even have weather do the job(Sandstorm or Hail) You could also poison or burn it

[@lududelubin3011]

This video covers the limitations of status and weather as counterplay options.

[@rendomman1969]

Just use the ability mummy

[@adrihercar4487]

Impostor shedinja with Life orb and double-edge was so good they had to ban It

[@RockHoward256]

i just find distracting how everyone in the 2:06 clip is named after bad bunny songs lmfao

[@Spyko-]

that's funny, you released a video on shedinja at the almost exactly same time (like ~10min diff) that false swipe released a video on ninjask

[@firstwavenegativity6379]

It would be interesting to know why Double Iron Bash was banned as well

[@MrcreeperDXD777]

Probably because high power + breaks sturdy/sub/sash and also the 51% chance to flinch

[@zandernator]

So basically the situation that made Shedinja banworthy was also one that was created by other bans, and a meta that pretty much demanded it.

[@Blue-ik8ij]

Pretty sure defensive pokemon like Toxapex kill Shedinja readily. You can always use baneful bunker and other similar moves

[@codenamec.a.t2480]

bruh that’s me in the thumbnail 💀

[@PedroHenrique-vs3mf]

One of my favorite pokes

[@RealityMasterRogue]

shedninja wasn't banned back when I played, though that was before heavy-duty boots

[@Kolacics]

2:12 they could have just put it in the little space where u chat not literally send a chat

[@hbarudi]

So what about using moves such as confuse ray, toxic, will o wisp, or hail/sandstorm? You don't need to prevent use of shedinja with sturdy ability if there are those ways to take him down. The original shedinja also have 5 types that can defeat him in addition to doing such kind of damage.

[@pimmm]

I played a lot of gen 6 BH back in the day and shedinja was always viewed as a noob strategy. I only needed to use one move slot on one pokemon (moon beam), and that countered shed. I never felt like it should be banned. I honestly don't know enough about gen 8 BH to have a good opinion, but it feels like if it only takes one move to counter an entire mon, it is manageable. idk, can someone help me understand a bit better?

[@derpyefalant478]

0:15 What's with the Rex Orange Country names lol? :)

[@bretterry8356]

Contrary is also banned. Can you imagine putting Contrary on a Pokémon with moves like Superpower, V-Create, Leaf Storm, and Dragon Ascent? Slaking would be an insane choice because of its base stats and normal typing, since you can replace Truant, but Slaking's not in Gen 8 sadly.

[@hiei49]

Contrary wasnt broken in past formats. Im not up to date rn but something new might have originated to ban the ability. Imposter bliss usually checks most contrary sets, but then you also have spectral thief, prankster hazers and the unawere arceus. Having said that, sone pokemon like primal groudon were banned in part due to the contrary set. Slaking in particular isnt a very good contrary user in general since it cant abuse a good stab or be imposter proof. Most slaking sets used to be shift gear + poison healing + facade iirc. A good contrary user back in the day was mega ray, with dragon ascent, v create, superpower and another move to check shenanigans, like sunsteel strike.

[@bretterry8356]

@@hiei49 I was just theorizing. I've never played Hackmons, so I don't know the meta. Tbh, every time I think of some neat interaction I find out it's already been done and is easily countered. Another one I thought would be good with Contrary is Cinderace, since it gets stab on V-Create and has high speed and attack. Does it still get Libero if you replace Blaze with Contrary, or does it lose it? Not sure if hidden abilities are affected by the changes in Hackmons.

[@mysticmongrel1289]

@@hiei49 Gen 7 Balanced Hackmons had massive Contrary use everywhere. It ended up banned

[@hiei49]

@@bretterry8356 You pick an ability and stay with that. Hidden abilities arent relevant. Also, a pokemon may not have a banned ability even if it holds it naturally. Thus, Libero CInderace cant be used, nor can be used contrary Serperior. For Fire type contrary users you could use Ho - Oh i guess if Contrary were allowed, since it gets Stab from V create and Dragon Ascent. Emboar gets stab on Superpower and it could circumvent its low speed with V-Create, but i dunno how it would work with its relative low stats. Reshiram could also be a decent mixed contrary sweeper in gen 7

[@hiei49]

@@mysticmongrel1289 I know it was good, but i never found it broken, it was just another tool in the meta to break defensive cores. Maybe some overload contrary teams were hard to come by, since they can be improof by being immune to all their moves that could be boosted (sth like Draco Meteor V create Xern), and then they just need to focus down the Prankster user, trap the imposter and power trip the Unawere user. I cannot tell since i wasnt around when the ability got banned.

[@tysondennis1016]

Ironically, Shedinja is better in Ubers than in OU. That’s because there’s more Pokémon that can’t touch it in Ubers than there are in OU.

[@hillhank3070]

Impostor Chansey should be banned You can't change my mind.

[@Cat-nr2jm]

Tea In the video fr

[@layschips134]

Congrats ur first

[@Cat-nr2jm]

@@layschips134 no not me I’m not tea, just saying tea was in the video, should’ve clarified that and worded it better

[@frankwest5388]

Guessing here before seeing the video. Sturdy-boots?

[@memekeeper-gaming3552]

Imo gen 8 pure hackmons gave hackmons a bad name, gen 6 is genuinely fun and interesting

[@lorekeeper685]

Heavy duty boots

[@Jinkuzu]

Almost like Gamefreak dosent considering singles even though that's probably the most popular format due to the entire story practicly being singles.

[@lordnatu]

Bro this is literally a meta for which you need to hack

[@redtube8667]

This is also a fanmade meta

[@thepotato513]

It's about time they banned Shedinja. It's always been super annoying, especially once people caught on to Focus Sash

[@pdt6925]

HEY ITS ME IM AT 2:51

[@NotAFatWhiteKid]

I used to run prankster hail on aegi just to screw over shedinja

[@Dexuz]

Si Veo a Tu Mama gives me life.