WHY ****** Was To Blame For Man Uniteds EMBARRASSING Performance Against Crystal Palace!

Tactical analysis of #ManchesterUnited in their embarrassing performance against #CrystalPalace in the Premier League, discussing who was REALLY to blame for the pathetic result!
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[@Nefariousbig]

Casemiro looked like he was playing Drop-In Pro Clubs while drunk

[@wolfswinkel8906]

Yet ten Hag will not promote another youth DM to challenge him

[@catology4052]

Do you have an actual suggestion or do you want Ten Hag to just spawn a player​@@wolfswinkel8906

[@cormac7884]

@@wolfswinkel8906are you dumb, ten hag said he wont promote any youth players that arent ready

[@benjansens8595]

@@wolfswinkel8906 who do you want him to promote? we were always going to loose that game which youth player would have done better?

[@user5092]

@@wolfswinkel8906throwing in a youth player who ain’t ready yet into the team will sort it👍🏾

[@mikester4896]

That first goal is definitely on the players. Just look at 12:51, Ten Hag looks panicked and urging them to get back.

[@user-ig1ps2mr2r]

People say he isn't pragmatic which is the biggest lie I could ever digest. Remember the 4-0 trashing of Brentford, he realised that the technical and physical acumen of this squad is very low and he absolutely had to throw his possession ideas to the bin and adapt to the players. So, since that 2-1 win over Liverpool, his entire tactics last season were there to suit the players available. I absolutely agree that he has had tactical flaws this season but doesn't this show that our players aren't capable of playing in an expansive system were you actually need to be technically and physically strong!? Sometimes I feel ETH is doing the right thing by exposing these players. Bring in anyone you like, these players will fail everyone. While other clubs have built a team to play a system, our club is just an accumulation of different types of average players of different styles and age groups. Recipe for failure if you want to implement a system

[@danielca3]

I watched live and the lack of athletism we have is honestly appalling no power no pace no fight.

[@jackreacher8858]

Almost all the PL teams are better on athleticism In comparision MU players are smallish

[@FountainOfYoot]

And you can see why we have so many injuries. ETH has been trying to condition this lot to high physicality and seems as though they’re all made of feathers.

[@jak3brap10]

Just so you know. Our fitness coach had one previous job at stoke. Erik was denied bringing in his fitness coach from Ajax who he’s worked with for years at other clubs too. Our doctor is from Arsenal and Arsenal always had a ridiculous amount of players out but haven’t since he left..

[@user-ig1ps2mr2r]

Everyone ask this to yourself : Can Pep make this same squad with these same injuries play even the simplest form of his patient positional and possession based football? If Klopp had this exact same team, would he be satisfied asking this team to gegenpress? Let's say the hottest manager now, Xabi Alonso, if we get him. He has been absolutely genius in rotating his squad, will he have the same success doing that in our squad? These are simple Qs. If you think about the answers honestly, you ll realise what's the real issue.

[@richson222]

A simple question I'll ask are we as bad as you make it look on paper?

[@CCChing-wl9ir]

People prefer to take the simple argument and nothing else is simpler than blaming the manager. Sack the manager and the next one will be the answer. Well you might say haven't we been through this before? Yes we did but it's much simpler to repeat the same thing and hope the next one will be different.

[@benjansens8595]

was that the same with the other 7 managers? you have to go down this path to allow yourself for better mate. its how football works. we have to get out the players who have frozen our club and dictated who the manager is for to long. all these injuries is exact same thing happen before. players think they can get the manager out.

[@richson222]

@@benjansens8595 this is one of those excuses y'all put out here. Every club has players from different managers but here it's a crime. We got schooled by palace manager with zero of his signing. 9 of the 11 that started for us had never played under a different manager. Excuses excuses excuses.

[@Michael.Koulibaly]

​@@richson222Its not an excuse. Other clubs have sporting directors that set their club's tactical philosophy which dictates what managers and players fit in. United have done it backwards where we get managers with any philosphy and let that dictate who we sign. The result is a squad with contrasting players because we've had 5 managers with contrasting philosophies. It's a big problem.

[@FireHead-xm8ih]

Nearly all our tactical so called issue from ten hag you’ve pointed out, I’ve seen other teams do it but it’s not an issue, why? The PLAYERS

[@FireHead-xm8ih]

Our pressing is bad because we leave a player open but palace does it and it keeps us at bay. City has Rodri alone in the mid third two defenders behind him every other player in the final third but ten hag does it and he leaves the team open? Ten hag can’t tell the players to run and give there all did you see wb yesterday running back?

[@Manutdhighlights136]

The reason why other teams do it and it's not a problem is because they actually have a proper structure to make it work, a defined pattern of knocking the ball around... So often than not you'll see a Man utd player on the ball and then no one to pass to, because teammates are not occupying the right zones for easy ball progression. You also have to think of it that we've played with different players this season but still face the same issues that definitely tells you it's not all on the players man

[@sjkdbuwauxiohceunbk3483]

Eriksen, Casemiro, Mount and Evans weren’t fit. Can’t win with this team.

[@ABESW0RLD]

All shit signings by ETH.

[@ksix3526]

@@ABESW0RLD casemiro was good in 1st season but this szn yah

[@royalkings254]

@@ABESW0RLDseek for more knowledge desperate signings for ETH!

[@FountainOfYoot]

@@ksix3526you could argue that this is one of the two bad performances by Evans this season.

[@ashtonndlovu9470]

Over payed for an old man common what was he thinking? ​@@ksix3526

[@animemadness1171]

The argument that he had all his players, two of those players are free transfer because he couldn’t get who he wanted and one is a CDM playing as a CB. This is a counter attacking team and yes it looks bad but it’s been bad before him. Everyone that comes to United seems to look bad no matter how good they were before.

[@user-ig1ps2mr2r]

Imo, his only biggest and most grave mistake was to push for Antony. Still, people don't understand why he did that. It was because we didn't have one single left footed attacker in the squad (Greenwood was out). Also, it was the board's mistake that they gave ETH the authority of the entire transfer strategy which just shows how incompetent our recruitment team is. If people blame the manager for overpaying for a player, then they can't be any more wrong. Casemiro wasn't really his signing, it was another panic signing. Martinez was absolutely brilliant until he got injured. Malacia was a decent option for €14M, but again injured. We overpaid for Højlund but he, Sesko, Kolo Muani and Ramos were the only top young STs in the market so that fee was justified. Onana's signing really made sense as De Gea's contract was up and it was time to move on after 12 yrs, yes it could be debate whether it should have been that a priority. Mount, again can't really judge because he has been injured. Eriksen, Dubravka, Butland, Sabitzer, Weghorst, Evans, Amrabat, Reguilon were either free or loan signings. Having almost equal loan signings than actual buys just shows at which horrendous level the clubs recruitment has been. Bring in Pep if you like, but it won't mean anything if the backstage setup is such

[@wolfswinkel8906]

​@@user-ig1ps2mr2r Amad was here before Antony, but we never gave him a chance.

[@animemadness1171]

@@user-ig1ps2mr2r I’m glad you are another fan with sense. People keep overlooking the mess he deals with behind the the scenes and the manager shouldn’t be doing a DOF’s job, recruitment teams job, whilst doing his own job with all the problems that already exist. Ten hag asked for players to be sold and they are still at the club, Jose even said the same thing. The job is impossible to succeed in if the team around him are incapable of doing their jobs properly. Every year and every manager we have we break records we don’t want to and that can’t be solely down to the manager. For the people saying he’s made bad decisions, well of course he has, if you’ve been in a toxic environment long enough you are bound to start making decisions that aren’t right. Ole came out and said most of the players didn’t want to be captain and some players didn’t want to play in certain matches but we are here with the same players repeating the cycle.

[@FountainOfYoot]

@@user-ig1ps2mr2rno no. Antony made sense at the time. Nobody was playing on the right - arguably United haven’t had a direct right winger since Nani. Antony’s profile is correct. He just has no quality. That’s why they’re going for Olise. He’s a direct winger with more quality than Antony. The one that completely made no sense was Mount. I completely agree with your last sentence as well.

[@benjaminngopwaamos6878]

The club has spent 400m in two summers since he came in. And to add to that, most of the players who played that game were players who were signed by him, so we can't make the common excuse of players downing tools. There's something at play here, and the best guess is bad coaching.

[@taxiforcraig]

Its the player that need to go first

[@henrikruckmann6321]

Besides all the well put points I also think it's apparent that the players lack routines in their inter play. (BTW: To be fair Eriksen actually got pushed into the ballet stature on the frozen frame.) Glazers out!

[@ianwachira8322]

The mistake was selling pastor Fred to get 007(mount)

[@joni.sirvio8867]

mistake was not to get players sold.. we have released like 20 players last years.. money out of drain

[@BritishReaction]

Bro I was there, fans were class - team were awful.. couldn't believe what I was witnessing

[@maplesyrup8369]

Can't understand why Amrabat was not picked ahead of Eriksen personally.

[@coalfacechris1336]

With FFP this will take years to fix. Somehow ETH has kept up. Should be applauded.

[@ShahulHaq]

Is there any point doing tactis at this point?

[@EzeorahJohnpaulNnaemeka]

I love the question

[@cellanjones28]

it was annoying to be honest, i made the call of 4 an hour before the game but did expect us to get 1 lol. nothing ten hagg could have done apart from putting 11 behind the ball and he would have got slaughtered for that.

[@UnitedLoyalist]

Well we did get a goal which I think should have stood. Also if not for an offside we had another from Casemiro. But yes, get your point

[@davidublin]

Young Manioo Garnacho either look exhausted or needed leaders , Casemiro Evans Eriksen look like there towing a caravan , AWB Anthony aren't good enough

[@mr.increediblle7964]

Ten Hag is damn fool to play AWB in LB when Dalot is very comfortable playing as a LB

[@jackreacher8858]

Losing 4 regular center halfs badly affected MU or any team for that matter ! Wouldnt happen if only one was on the field tbt

[@dmitriykrashev]

Great video AJ, I now better understand tactic ideas of CP, didn’t know about shadow press before it, my thanks👏🏻🙌🏼.This was the first time when I saw the line-up’s and understand that is no chance MU win, even without individual mistakes it would be a miracle if MU win with this squad, his fitness, his understanding in the squad how who playing and individual abilities of the players. Still for “EtH stays”, think that individual mistakes made that game, understand that the coach take responsibility for the squad and for the players, but think it’s unfair to blame him for the players make poor decisions that out of structure what coach gives, unfortunately the choice is not big.

[@sjin420]

This is very thorough and a lot of insight into how United is playing. I would say though, the wingers run a lot but that's not where the injuries are. The injuries are with our defenders for the most part. Martinez was more of a contact injury so.he may not be injury prone, but the rest of the defense seems to be injury prone

[@unitedinthestates]

Good analysis, I feel like ETH player narrow because of how slow our back line is. We're most vulnerable during transitions and when we're switching shape (Brentford were literally hoofing balls into empty space and daring our defenders to win a foot race) and Palace are a good transition team. There was an Ericksen switch in the first half to Wan Bissaka (maybe why ETH played him deep instead of Mainoo who doesnt have that switch in his locker) but thats AWB not Shaw over there so it went nowhere. It obviously didnt work but i see what ETH was trying to do.

[@k1llsk]

All i remember is finally getting my stream to work n seeing the 4th goal n then turning off the stream

[@maleekmydin9969]

I am so fed up with this 325 build up..i does not get united anywhere... build up is poor, and defending with it is also poor... much rather go back to 4231 proper build up with full back and winger actually on either side and build up from there..

[@robertheyes1389]

Before ETH arrived we were told he was a master tactician and meticulous planner. Where is that now?

[@delgodzilla1977]

Seems that last week Ten Hag said with all the injuries he doesn't want to change how he wants the team to play - which I think is soething we want isn't it - the team dont' change how they play because someone is missing etc. What do you think of this approach rather than adapting to who is available?

[@mikester4896]

I just feel that he's in an impossible situation because these players will still play shit even with any other system/tweaks, you have 30 year olds who are half injured anyway going up against hungry pacey wingers in their prime. Not even Pep could salvage this and I bet if we played super defensively, he would still get shit because 'It's not the United way'.

[@delgodzilla1977]

@@mikester4896 yeah I think there's pressure, it's at least he'll have seen that ole was expected to move away from counter attacking - but that's a long term approach and maybe he doesn't have that time if he hasn't already run out

[@user-ig1ps2mr2r]

People say he isn't pragmatic which is the biggest lie I could ever digest. Remember the 4-0 trashing of Brentford, he realised that the technical and physical acumen of this squad is very low and he absolutely had to throw his possession ideas to the bin and adapt to the players. So, since that 2-1 win over Liverpool, his entire tactics last season were there to suit the players available. I absolutely agree that he has had tactical flaws this season but doesn't this show that our players aren't capable of playing in an expansive system were you actually need to be technically and physically strong!? Sometimes I feel ETH is doing the right thing by exposing these players. Bring in anyone you like, these players will fail everyone. While other clubs have built a team to play a system, our club is just an accumulation of different types of average players of different styles and age groups. Recipe for failure if you want to implement a system

[@theonceandfuturething3999]

If you are stuck with central defenders who move at the speed of late, why on earth would you have your attacking three doing an unsupported high press?

[@nicholasflay8819]

Great , if exasperated , analysis ; thankyou. As a Palace fan i was relieved to see Amrabat not starting - arguably the very best in his role in Qatar and would have surely negated ,to some degree, our superior midfield athleticism ??

[@Jas-nj3oo]

Can't legislate for Casemiro & Evans back from injury in defence. With no proper left back and Eriksen in midfield. This creates technical problems for the defence technically in and out of possession and physical attributes of the defence too. I called a Palace win too. The defence creates the base for everything tactically and confidence for the rest of the team. For me this result is based on how severe our injury situation is, the quality of players in certain positions hurt us.

[@abdulkerimidris7689]

11:00 Why feel sorry for Ten Hag? He made the choice to play Eriksen in that position. He had Amrabat on the bench, Mount if he wanted a different profile, or CDM for the U-21 side Maxi Oyedele. Why Eriksen was in that team, and why the f*** in that position, I will never understand.

[@joa4339]

To have 6 of 7 CBs out with injury (and the 7th not really fit at all - Evans) is unacceptable. Not sure if I'd be too hard on the players (played out of position) when the tactics don't help them one bit. Players in their natural positions gotta step up and help them out (Hellooooo AWB and Dalot)! It is impossible to gain confidence if the team play is about individual brilliance, and the patterns of play are demanding a special kind of players that all are injured and unavailable... ETH should've assessed the team by now (hell, we got a huge coaching team to help him.. WTF are they doing?! Lazy as hell if you ask me!), know how we can play to these backup players strength (or coached them to know their roles and responsibilities) - superior team play as our players actually aren't that skilled. Instead players do not trust one another and they don't take defensive responsibility when teammates leave positions. You cannot let any player get away.. even Dalot must know he gotta step down if Casemiro is joining the press. Or another player if Casemiro is pressing opposition toward right side... The players are dumbed down to be high on stamina, instead of quick thinking, explosive acceleration and immediate aggressive press applied from several players at the same time. From Ole's Moments FC where the defensive block was quite solid with a deep double pivot, the single pivot is very vulnerable as that CDM is working way too much as a no.8 in the sense of joining attack. Instead of screening and help doubling and reinforcing our defensive line from right to left. Working vertical vs lateral. Really thought we did that well in ETHs first year, but now it is way too empty. This organization, guidelines and rules of play in the system, it gotta be crystal clear. Either ETH has drilled players in these systems or he hasn't. I've never felt he is doing preparations to defend vs opposition strengths - United play the same way vs every team we face. Which is basically not having any defensive plan at all, or a flawed one that every team in PL can expose with ease. If you got 3 CBs (Varane, Martinez and potentially Shaw if either first two are ill/injured) and then just one RB that can play high line well (Dalot, AWB usually screwing our offside line)... simply put, it is complete nonsense to play a high line. We're able to do so for less than half a season. ETH system is based on this. You are making a mockery out of fans with such stubbornness... process?? Players learning a lot by being humiliated by far inferior clubs huh. I believe some wise managers said you also learn a lot by winning and breeding a winning culture. Our players are losers with a loser mentality. They down tools and get into 2nd half with zero intensity.

[@snakekime7608]

Im officially ten hag out, not that hes the entire issue, but i think INEOS and the club should start on blank papers

[@Zamunda-]

This has been the solution for the past 10 years and we always end up here. Happened with LVG, Jose, Ole, Ragnick and it will happen with the next manager. It would be nice to see us try something else.

[@snakekime7608]

@@Zamunda- Difference is we actually got some real owners now who want us to improve, if we cant improve our playing style, even if the players are awful, its better to just restart the process under new owners and go from there

[@djpulverize]

Be patient. As Zamunda mentioned.. changing managers and getting a bounce doesn’t resolve anything. I believe INEOS wants to work closely with ETH in building a solid foundation, which has started already since he came in. The youth team is an example of that. The senior team is difficult to drastically change because of the wages. No club wants to pay that much for mediocre players like Rashford, Martial, HM, SM etc. it’s tricky. And now, even if the stadium is always fully packed, due to Glazers and execs, we are stuck with FFP limitations. Which led to us loosing two key transfer windows. Remember RR saying that this team needs 4-5 windows. We have so far only used 2 and that too detrimentally. In a nutshell, let the key players come back from injury, let the crap players on last year of contract leave, increase funds and start from there with a new structure. Coach has a good philosophy and is one of the gifted minds in modern football. Let him cook.

[@pavlosmundis6090]

Do you believe that I have travelled from Cyprus to see that game and my 6 old boy was crying at 3-0 not because of the result bit because we were so poor!

[@akib2542]

Sick to death of the inverted fullback. I see no value in it anymore.

[@UnitedCanuck]

Ten Hag is not pragmatic enough. We need a coach who can be quick to adapt.

[@djpulverize]

Not the time to be pragmatic if you’re building something. Let him cook bud.

[@krisswalker-tv1yw]

No he should leave immediately​@@djpulverize

[@blackmojoking820]

​@@djpulverizeA shit castle you mean. Even you, can't spell out what it is we're building.

[@someasiandude8645]

I’m still ETH in, however, I simply cannot defend what seems to be just an innate stubbornness to adapt the teams tactics… I understand the situation is so far from ideal for him that you gotta have some sort of sympathy. Most of us have heard the interview n his reasonings for not changing tactics, n like sure ok but surely he can the consequences now of not adapting ur tactics. Like now an improvised team is supposed to pull off the main team’s gameplay, which is alr difficult enough in of itself? If I c his unwillingness to adapt his tactics again I’m gna have some srs srs doubts cuz I can’t imagine any competent manager being this stubborn about a change of plans

[@roons_utd]

I watched this live as i always do in the middle of the night. It was a horrific game to watch as a life long UTD fan. I dont mind losing games but it felt like players didn't care and are not playing for the Badge and manager. Its embarrassing players like Antony in our team, we had bad players before but he has a bad attitude altogether for a UTD player. At the end seeing him discussing something with Mount, Onana covering his mouth complaining about something was pukish. I dont think ETH is a good manager to take us forward but more over I think there are horrible players who dont put effort each week and should be sold.

[@JohnBishorek]

Hi why does the manager keep putting out the wrong formation I know we have had alot of ibad injuries but we have not a good squad of players and is Marcus Radford still injured if not why isn't he not playing

[@petershodeinde4]

🤣 Legendary analysis man. 🤣🤣

[@andyleong74]

Sack ETH

[@AdamStone-rv4bq]

It's a perfect shit storm of injuries, bad players, poor coaching and naive tactical approach. Blame can't solely be pinned at anyone, it's just a combination of awful things. I do feel like Ten Hag has just been making the players run in training and seem to be doing 0 POP?

[@calebnwachukwu9097]

@Aj pls what do you use to watch match after it's been played Pls kindly assist

[@feranmiquadri6279]

i use footyfull though

[@ab0b3]

is way too risky keeping eth. Best for him is to move back to Ajax, not Bayern or whatever. All his decisions turned against him eventually.

[@kraeutrpolizei]

Don’t feel sorry, we all know what we‘re getting into when we watch a game nowadays

[@ofofononoiwa9397]

After watching the game not even Zidane can help this players

[@ChadYu]

Go off King

[@user-pu1ds4gy4x]

Personally i dont mind if united don't qualify for Europe that could be a blessing, united could focus on the league.

[@abacaabaca8131]

One thing i do like to point out if you're Southampton, you don't play like Barcelona, Cut that shit of playing out from the back. Its risky with uncapable players. Just shoot the ball up and let hojlund chase.

[@sosamma090]

Ten Hag is the reason why we lost. No ifs and buts. His insistence on playing his way with this team, decimated with injuries is the reason why we wont win. Him playing from the back with the players he had is the reason we lost. Also, him playing mainoo and erikson in front of the defense makes me question if he actually knows what his players are capable of doing. All he had to do was to play with just two forwards- Garnacho and Hojlund, and put an extra player in the midfield. If we dont have any, bring in someone from the youth team. This season we had the most goals conceded with the most shots taken against and we scored the least goals.

[@Stephenheaven7]

Brother I watched this live 😭😭😭😭😭💔💔💔

[@United_Wings]

This is definitely a player profile profile

[@TheReddances]

Well, no worries, only 4 of the strongest teams left. Perfect time to hit your worst form. WHY can’t this expensive team pass out from the back, after all this time working on it? Why can’t they develop a short & medium length passing-based game? And learn to press properly? Because it’s too much like City?!? Are they too embarrassed to learn from the best? It was as if they had been told before coming out just how terrible they were and are all out of a job soon, no matter what...Massively demotivated. Insipid Rashford, Casemiro, Shaw, Martinez, Bruno = the bedrock of last year’s efforts. But this year & this game - injuries and lack of form from the stars. And it looks like they have mentally accepted their fate (though Mount and Amrabat did seem to try to muster some energy)... And the fans too... That they were so spiritedly loud and consistent, despite observing that awful fare, reminded a bit of the crazed support after Denis Law's notorious backheel. (The moment that finally confirmed my commitment as a small boy). The drive is to discount the immediate evidence but gather oneself to look ahead for the fightback in the distance, that cant yet be seen. No Dennis Law, but a Haaland - and the rest of the best- to push the final nail in?

[@Rich-gb6cu]

You think EtH goes end of the season? I've always been EtH in but I just don't know anymore.

[@user-ig1ps2mr2r]

Well, let's say this way that if INEOS keep ETH, then either it is purely for financial reasons and uncertainty to get an upgrade or even at par level of manager as ETH in this manager merry-go-round OR INEOS are very thoughtful and see it from a rational perspective that the manager is not the biggest problem. I think ETH might not be perfect or even a great manager, but he certainly isn't the biggest problem. But, at the same time, I don't have enough strength to defend him anymore like I did maybe till February

[@kingflockthewarrior202]

its like your tyres flat and you change the engine

[@ashtonndlovu9470]

​​@@kingflockthewarrior202just because you have a flat tire doesn't mean ignore a smoking engine Both need change

[@genghiskhanjunior9581]

​@@ashtonndlovu9470 Maybe the engine just needs a new head gasket and a new set of piston rings? 😂

[@reeveswongpiano]

I woke up at 3am to watch that crap 🤣🤭

[@UNITED8993]

AJ, can you do a video looking at Simone Inzaghi. Personally, he's the only manager i'd be interested in bringing to united. I think with a few key signings his ability to switch between 3-5-2 and 4-2-2 would suit our squad to a tee. especially with Luke Shaws fitness questionable at FB, and I think should be rotating between LCB in a back 3 and FB against certain opposition. Would be really interesting to get your thoughts because no one seems to looking at him for some reason.

[@subhanqureshi4273]

I hope casemiro won't be at the club next season.

[@itsnickjoseph]

7:22 isn’t this phase of play - rondos - tight passes and quick decision making a hallmark of the ETH system? Want that a massive part of the Ajax system?

[@FountainOfYoot]

Absolutely. And if he goes to Munich you’ll see that system work to perfection.

[@davidsrinivasan7764]

ten hag seems like a plan A only kinda guy .

[@thaboseane502]

This game highlighted how dependant we are on Bruno

[@ALEX-ut4pp]

IMO, it just highlight how a manager can take three months to take an underperforming team and give them an identity and turn underperforming player into something decent the polar opposite of this manager. As for bruno this game would have been the same if not worst he isnt brilliant in possession so their tactic wouldnt have change nor would the result

[@user5092]

@@ALEX-ut4ppwe going to pretend new manager bounce isn’t a thing

[@FountainOfYoot]

@@ALEX-ut4ppI believe a lot more passes behind the line of defence would have happened, giving Rasmus the responsibility to use his strength. He got next to nothing as always.

[@Doctor_Kroom]

Bruno would have just kept loosing the ball against the palace pressing. Bruno is a counter attacking footballer with zero press-resistance or dribbling ability.

[@blackmojoking820]

Naa. With been shit with him in the lineup.

[@Guilefpv]

Palace was using Alonso's formation and tactics and it worked brilliantly. 1 glance at how they shape up based on their formation and you can see we are in trouble with Eriksen and Mainoo in the double pivot. ETH is tactically clueless. No doubt we are struggling in defense, but that doesn't excuse our frontline where we had only 7 shots on goal, 2 on target with none from Hojlund. we had 4 players who were wanted and signed by ETH for big money ion thew starting line up, 5 if you include Casemiro though he wasn't ETH's choice...3 of them were subbed out for our youngsters and a loanee (another wanted by ETH and could have been bought by him if we had the funds). So basically more than half the starting lineup were his players with Garnacho, Mainoo, Dalot and AWB signed before he came.

[@VKBKK]

Predicted a 3-0 lost, under 10H this team just dont know how to play the ball on the ground n quick pass n move. Its so predictable any balls into midfield it will be a blind hoof upfield. Amrabat or U21 CB would do better than Evans who clearly is not fit

[@fen697]

I saw it live. Made me want to give up living. Palace has been playing well so all credit to them. But lordy lord... Yeah. I had to watch it live as we got progressively worse

[@benjaminngopwaamos6878]

All of these are not things that just happen once in a while. They are recurrent patterns we see in every match. It's very poor coaching by Ten Hag and his coaches. I absolutely do not understand how anyone says the players aren't doing what the manager wants and he can't find a way to combat that. He's a coach fgs.

[@ALEX-ut4pp]

Why do you keep saying shadow pressing like it some genius tactic it simple blocking/cutting of the passing lane. Good analysis but that just annoyed me.

[@coreyboachie]

I’ve been saying this for months our system is what creates so many injuries in a lot of cases, so really it’s not even an excuse for why we are so bad, especially since we are supposed to be training more than 11 players

[@thaboseane502]

How?

[@coreyboachie]

@@thaboseane502 do you not see all the running out players need to do?

[@mikester4896]

@@coreyboachie But then we're not technically proficient enough to play Cityball with the full strength squad. Don't forget other teams have struggled with injuries this season but we've just had the worst of it coming off the back of a brutal season last year.

[@coreyboachie]

@@mikester4896so then his lack of rotation becomes a problem once again

[@k.m9900]

There is no structure in our midfield. Onana and Rice wouldn't cover the spaces we're leaving. Tactical problem with this manager

[@mikester4896]

Are we leaving those spaces because we don't have players like Onana or Rice though? People love saying about tactics but it's extremely clear that this current squad doesn't not fit any structure properly, even with counter-attacking tactics under Ole we still had major flaws especially when we played McFred.

[@k.m9900]

@mikester4896 it's clearly instruction because why are all our players doing it? If it was just Erikson and Casimiro leaving the spaces, it would be evident only in their areas, but that's not the case. The whole team is spread massively wide in and out of possession. Every pass we attempt looks like a long pass, and every time we lose the ball, we aren't in positions to win it back. Hence why I said it's a structural/tactical problem.

[@refigee8752]

Our results are finally starting to match our performances. We look so terribly caoched and it doesnt look like there is a single thing we're good at, not in defense, build up or attack. The injuries excuse only goes so far. The players dont dictate the style and tactics of play, the coaches do, and all season long they've looked bereft of ideas even when injuries improved.

[@XboneMalone]

So Maguire, AWB, McTominay & Amrabat (for example) are capable of playing like City or possession based teams do? The answer is no to any one of four of them. The only one player that hasn't been a regular is Amrabat and that's because he's unable to play in the PL. Then we have Antony who seems to have been a competition winner when in possession. Casemiro who has got his lazy twin to play for him. Evans only back in training this week. Mount playing his first full game after long term injury. Eriksen whose legs have all but deserted him (can still do a job on the ball). These are the players that have had to be relied upon. None of them can play together and produce consistent performances for 45mins at a time, let alone a full match/stringing a sequence of games together.

[@krisswalker-tv1yw]

​@@XboneMalone no one is playing city ball. Ten hag can't install his own philosophy

[@wenjun_n]

I think Ten Hag will be sacked based on his delusion and stubbornness. What he said in that Neville interview is shocking.

[@onpoint1421]

ETH is super bad and always having an excuse about his bad decisions…He has 7 players in the game which he brought in but all poor decisions making players. ETH has no tactical ability.. my question is what is the gameplay or tactics which he is passing to them???

[@Justlookingaround19]

Like bringing in a new manager is going to change anything the players have shit mentality even Klopp would flopp with a squad like MU. In MU the players decide how they want to play instead of the manager if ETH pushes them too hard they have a mental breakdown and can't seem to play football anymore

[@onpoint1421]

@@Justlookingaround19 you are right though. But this team has no style of play.. leaving acres of space in the midfield while players run through. That is something the manager should have address before it get to this stage. Leverkusen were down last season before Alonso took them 6th and this season they are unbeaten. That is progress with good game pattern which teams haven’t figured out. Even though MANU players are shit. They should not lose like they do to smaller teams. It is an embarrassment

[@XboneMalone]

@@onpoint1421 This team has no style of play because there isn't a style of play that can make them a cohesive unit as they've been panic bought for several different managers. Paid over the odds for players because they dithered and dallied early on. Wouldn't pay the money for 1st choices, then end up paying 80 for Antony, 60 for Casemiro, 55 for Mount (would be free this year), 70 for Hojlund (worthy purchae, but not for 70). Cut the overspend & failure to move on players not upto it and who knows, might have been able to sign a defender comfortable on the ball and can pass precisely; a midfielder who can trap a ball and pass it, rather than running forwards and marking himself out of the game when we're in possession, a winger that can use both feet or, hell, put a cross in the box every now and then as their first thought, not when they've ran down a blind alley and allowed the opponents to get back into shape.