Why Was Topologic Gumblar Dragon Banned? - Yu-Gi-Oh!

[@awesomesauce-h1x]

I remember when someone asked you "are there any cards you think were a mistake" on stream, and you immediately answered Gumblar, so glad to see the video on it

[@melffyrabby1009]

Oh yeah, and I said summon sorc and firewall and he didn’t even hesitate to agree. Seriously though Konami printed so many broken cards just to ban them

[@bl00by_]

@@melffyrabby1009 I think that they wanted to see if such effects are fine, because of the link format. Soon they realised that even with a "highly restritive" format like MR4 such effects are still broken. The entire link era was a mistake from konami, the decks which were realesed in this time were completly awseome, but the link monsters like summon sorceeres, pre-errata firewall, the knightmares, isolde, halq or gumblar were a huge mistake. But the good thing is that you learn from your mistakes and konami is doing it right now, we hadn't really broken archetypes since the end of MR4. And the archetypes which were broken and meta wasn't broken because of the new cards, but because of existing cards (except zoo's), stuff like blockdragon, s0, VFD, smoke grenade or benten were/are the problems. And yes we've got halq and linkross, but those were designed for the link format, it was not planned to release them in MR5, I even think that they hadn't even plans for MR5 while designing linkross.

[@LunaDachi]

My instant thoughts were Firewall and Soul Charge

[@cephalosjr.1835]

@@bl00by_ I don’t think Halq was a mistake. Halq and Auroradon are currently only played in rogue decks and a few Dragon Link variants. As you can see, they’re fine without Linkross, Jet Synchron, and O-Lion.

[@nightshroud9671]

@@bl00by_ And then Tearlaments happened..

[@scalchopwarrior3298]

Topologic Gumblar Dragon was released in 2018, so it's only 3 years old as of the current 2021 time. That is not nearly old enough to gamble, making it illegal according to the laws of America. That is why Gumblar is banned.

[@melffyrabby1009]

Lul

[@starforce6751]

Actually,The Card the looks the oponent hand and shuffle it is The Forceful sentry,Confiscation discard it

[@silent7159]

Don't forget about Gouki using Aqua Dolphin to potentially ripping a 5th card out of the hand

[@Mr.Hibat313]

Was Connector release at the time? If so it can potentially loop for 6 cards

[@salehabuluay8158]

It would have been even worse if they kept the anime effect

[@shadowmetroid18]

Topologics are just walking bombs which is the thing I love about them.

[@bolobre4th]

Gumblar was banned too late in the ocg. Interestingly enough, what caused it to be banned was the danger dark world deck, where they did azathot you then rip you for 6 while gaining advantage of the dark world monsters, since gumblar discards from your hand by effect. The deck took all events by storm and lasted no more than 3 weeks

[@versutus2699]

All of Varis' link boss monsters are absurd now that I think about it

[@scalchopwarrior3298]

Honestly let's just be glad it's nerfed from the anime version...that one destroyed all cards instead of just max 2, and its Extra Linked effect couldn't be negated. Also, Link Monsters couldn't be destroyed by card effects...Jesus Christ.

[@Flexy59]

ah yes, gameplay

[@otakotako2601]

and playmaker could still win after being hit by that bs

[@gkarak1996]

@@otakotako2601 this was the plot armor power. Nothing wins over that

[@CelVini]

@@otakotako2601 a trap that reduce damage sounds legit in a anime deck

[@TheDonJuan]

At my first local I went to I was gumblar handlooped... Surprised I didn’t quit tbh, but I’ve got the will of IRON!!! Great video, my testosterone levels have risen 300%

[@spencersss1251]

Same gouki gumbar and next duel firewall

[@melffyrabby1009]

I’m honestly surprised Konami even allowed this card to be printed, cards like firewall were already insanely powerful and even cards that weren’t as strong as gumblar saw constant competitive play, not only that but even Konami should know how important a single card in hand is, I mean ripping 1 card in hand is already broken as heck especially when it’s a generic card like confiscation but making a generic extra deck link monster that can rip 4 cards out of the opponents hand along with being able to potential enable your own grave yard plays is just insane

[@hikarimemeirooficial]

And if you go out of your way using that Dolphin-Isold combo that's the entire hand, before the opponent gets to play.

[@otakotako2601]

i think that they thought this card is ok to print is bc they used the anime card as a standard, the anime card destroys the whole hand on summon, has spell speed 4 destroy the whole hand when extra linked, the 3k burn and giving the other extra linked monsters protection from being destroyed so yeah the card is way waaay weaker than the anime card, maybe they thought bc they nerfed it that far it would be okay to print it

[@michaelalberto9846]

Konami didnt think you can play a protagonist and a antagonist monster card in the same deck.

[@suisui5930]

Hey man, Konami need those money by selling those busted cards

[@hikarimemeirooficial]

Eventually the power creep of the game will reach a point Gumblar will be 3 of outside ban list and rarely see play.

[@orchidquack]

No, I don’t think that’s really possible, not without an errata or severe master rule change

[@hikarimemeirooficial]

As the game go on, GY is more and more becoming a second hand, we see that with Orcust's, eventually a DARK Warrior generic arquetype could come up with few or no restrictions using Orcust's as base.

[@repeekyraidcero]

Yeah. But Konami loves creeping, cause it sells new stuff. Let's not forget how many "negate everything" monsters now... Also wtf nibiru

[@nonlethalnuke]

@@repeekyraidcero idk ik this comment is old but konami has largely moved from negates to interactions which i think makes the game much better. gumblar can never come back because it rips your whole hand basically before you even play. gy effects or not, handlooping is something that has been over powered through all of yugiohs history and nothing does it as consistently as gumblar.

[@mariogonzalezdario7926]

0:32 song name please?

[@SSF2ClassicVideo]

And now we can play it in Duel Links. Dont see an issue with that at all.

[@an1nja]

im just surprise people dont talk about the 6 card hand loop combo innovated by nishad. you would use levi and darkest diabolos to hand rip 2 cards along with the gumblar for 2 on your turn, then on your opponents turn you would use fairy tale snow to banish 2 thunder dragon monsters to add 2 other thunder dragon monsters to your hand as CL 2 and 3, then trigger gumblar as CL1 to rip the final 2 cards, absolutely insane shit

[@hikarimemeirooficial]

They don't talk much about this due to consistent problems.

[@an1nja]

@@hikarimemeirooficial I mean a good deal of the time you were hand looping for 5 cuz you were seeing the levi, and if you didn’t see the diabolos you would just make hope harbinger with colossus, I still believe that this variant of danger thunder was the best to this day, even if you weren’t looping for 6 you were putting your opponent in a position where they cannot win, and the fact that the combo was non linear with no real choke point was just the icing on the cake. The deck just didn’t have a big event to preform at.

[@Laki071]

Short answear: Remember delquent duo yeah this card is it but without tho cost and it nills the entire hand + deals 3k effect damage

[@AquosYeah]

Still waiting for my topologic archtype

[@bl00by_]

Maybe we get one in BODE...

[@sefeiba7477]

Topologic Gumblar errata be like: If this card is quadruple co-linked, you can discard your entire hand (min 4), make your opponent discard 1 card from their hand to the GY.

[@eavyeavy2864]

No quad

[@_SlimYGO]

Having played the wombo combo danger thunder list with this and snow I can confirm this card was ACTUALLY ABSURD!!

[@ryuzayuki1997]

Grand kid: Grandpa, please tell us about dragon link Blade: What about dragon link? Grand kid: When it was at its strongest! Blade: 4:56

[@BladeYGO]

XDDDDD

[@radianzero]

Gumblar: *Exists* My Hand: "My time has come."

[@leandroroman7053]

After thinking about it for a while, I would errata it to: If *the turn player* Special Summoned *a monster* to a zone a Link Monster points to, while this monster is on the field, *and both players have 1 and/or 2 cards in their hands: Destroy all cards on each player's hand.* During the Main Phase, if this card is Extra Linked and your opponent has *1 or 2 cards in their hand: Destroy all cards on your opponent's hand,* then, if they have no more cards in their hand, inflict 3000 damage to them. You can only use 1 "Topologic Gumblar Dragon" effect per turn, and only once that turn. *While this card is Extra Linked, Link Monsters you control cannot be destroyed by card effects.* Yes, I'm a hard anime fan, I want destruction and no discard, and protection, on every duel TGD was in, the turn player was the one that makes TGD activate the Infinite Destruction effect.

[@GizmekGalaxy]

Løøps but without the fruit, and regarding hands.

[@eavyeavy2864]

Not loop

[@juvielmartineztorres8425]

This card could Rip one card from their hand for each effect and it would probably still be banned.

[@jamesbrincefield9879]

I loved Gumblar back when he first came out. I feel like everyone gets at least one free pass on playing something super toxic in their life. Gumblar was mine.

[@Keviniscloud]

Confiscation discards a card doesn't shuffle. The forceful century is the one that shuffles. KNOW YOUR YUGIOH HISTORY

[@NoneofImportance9080]

Hand loop go brrrrrr!!!

[@eavyeavy2864]

Dunce

[@FieryDance]

I'm so glad I took a break from the game from 2017- early 2020, the shit I hear about Gumblar and Firewall and how they were I don't want to be playing then

[@aliobeido8754]

Loved this in atlantean/mermails, moulinglacia plus this to rip whole hand

[@nibirutheprimalbeing3765]

Linkuriboh is the problem card bro

[@blackcandymensshop7691]

man as a stax/pox player i lover this card, whenever i see a deck or strat capable to utterly decimate your opponents resources (in any game) it is usually the first deck i am building. I just enjoy seeing the will to live drain from my opponents eyes, ngl.

[@Flexy59]

if that is the case, please take a look at mystic mine

[@blackcandymensshop7691]

@@Flexy59 yup i am a mystic mine control/burn player, loved the card ever since it came out.

[@Flexy59]

@@blackcandymensshop7691 i feel you, i started playing shortly after it got released and immediately built an exodia mine deck lmao

[@RisingJericho]

Thank you once again for answering a question I had, Blade From 2 Years Ago

[@bl00by_]

I'm still waiting for a topologic which banishes cards from the opponents extra deck...

[@Asim-nm1bc]

For me, it is the graveyard

[@bl00by_]

@@Asim-nm1bc This would be sick right now. I'm In!

[@Asim-nm1bc]

@@bl00by_ glad to hear it

[@CallMeNevermore]

We have Lithosagym

[@CallMeNevermore]

This card made late 2018 seemingly unplayable. I have no idea what R&D was thinking when they made this card.

[@deanoor9391]

Anybody know the name of the song in the beginning of the video?

[@mustafamrouweh7873]

Confiscation discards a card doesn't shuffle The forceful century is the one that shuffles

[@Kefkaownsall]

Weirdly the card was legal in the ocg for a long time I guess handloops vs Maxx c

[@dage2079]

My guy why hasn't anyone put light on goddess of rebirth yet, nor the results of her used first turn, Cannot be negated, banishes whole board and hand

[@umergulmuhammad9756]

How are those Topologic Monsters Bomber Dragon, Trisbaena and Zeroboros are Legal the way Gumblar Dragon isn't?

[@Rene-ij1ut]

Because hand looping is not fun, and I'm tired of people who use it actually thinking it's actually a good idea!

[@EizaYgo]

Handlooping is fun

[@herzji]

How is this video just no getting made? Everyone knows this...

[@bl00by_]

Beginners or people who havent't played 2018/early 2019: What is a gumblar?

[@vanesslifeygo]

Still salty about how the second I got Agarpain it got banned But happy that I didn't *also* get all these other dragons that ain't as good right now. Void Ogre for example

[@gureomokri5583]

Can you talk about Egyptian god vs sacred beast again The Egyptian gods have new support from kings court and their structure deck

[@ufukcangencoglu2279]

2:13 you are describing The Forceful Sentry, not Confiscation

[@yugiohdm5659]

I think need a errata this card but komomoney don't do it

[@xtehmoonlight7400]

dont forget the new birb deck allows access to wiraquocha rasca easily... prepare for another vietnam flashback

[@bl00by_]

You have to cotrol 3 monsters to rip 3 cards out of the hand. I don't think that this card will be played in flundereeze.

[@Osindileyo]

Another fair and balanced link monster

[@digitalstatictv]

Better question: why was it printed?

[@marks3684]

2:18 ............................................. ............................................. .............................................that's not what Confiscation does whatsoever. That's literally Forceful Sentry. How did you not know this?

[@micro3090]

pov : you use gumblar against danger

[@anhduchophuoc7523]

You forgot to mention agarpain

[@janithernest3929]

Blade look at gumblar anime effects so broken

[@cheshirewise942]

Nah, bring it back to 1.

[@scalchopwarrior3298]

Yeah, but isn't as broken as Ligma

[@Bwings4life]

But hand loops are healthy /s

[@thesheep1488]

Nice, now, why was Rongo banned. Pls '_'

[@exbelleenthusiast2315]

Look ill save you 7 minutes. Basically Handloops

[@adannovoa8223]

Oooh. No wonder why its banned. But like no yeah. I mean I see it it is a overpowered card that can be abuse, but I mean there nothing saying it effects can be negated. Plus has people ever actually extra link before? I don't see anyone actually do that if I honest. But if the card is banned then I guess it is banned. 😐 I this really answered my question so yeah.

[@mr.thomaswaffles6700]

Anyone with half a Brain and reads the card instead of seeing this video: Oh so that's why

[@trailmountain8336]

It wasn't that bad or broken 😎😭😭

[@mustafamrouweh7873]

Bro we all know that linkross is the strongest link monster but gumblar is a very very close second

[@CardCommander]

God this card is degenerate

[@umergulmuhammad9756]

I think Topologic Gumblar Dragon shouldn't be banned

[@epictom3423]

epic

[@MegaMK13]

Ayy