Why We Avoid Certain Popular RV Models 🚐

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[@josephharrell5724]

Fuel for thought: tow capacity is almost meaningless on a tow vehicle. Its the weight on the back axle that limits things. 10% of your loaded RV is the tongue weight which can pretty much be added directly to the back axle. Full tanks are 700 to 1200 lbs on most RVs so never run with full tanks. 22 feet (26ft total) is probably the max RV floor plan to comfortably tow with a large SUV. How many people are going in that SUV? Single axle means more sway which is a big concern and more likely to loose control in a blow out. Double axle means that it is vital to keep the trailer level on the hitch which is hard to control when renting it. Murphy bed means you are not going to put one of those comfortable RV mattresses in main bed because it wont fit folded up. Bunk house is great for more beds but you lose space for kitchen, bathroom, storage, etc. I could go on and on. There are lots of tradeoffs in a Travel Trailer that you don't have to think about in a big class A. Its good that you are looking ahead because you need to take time to figure out what would work best for you in a travel trailer. With a TT there lots of places to go that a class A won't fit.

[@fellixx11]

Keep an eye on tongue weight. It can be more important than total towing capacity. A trailer with excessive tongue weight can use up available cargo capacity of your suv long before you reach max towing capacity. Be careful.

[@mickeym2380]

Pretty sure you know this, but payload is the number you should be concerned about. You will find the max payload on the driver side door sticker. Your payload is hitch weight plus everything and everybody in the truck.

[@dayrelgates8628]

THIS!

[@elainemarler1842]

Suggestion double axels not single. Much safer for people towing and better balance!!

[@GratefulGlamper]

Thanks for the suggestion

[@SpykersB]

And CCC! 🍻

[@jasonlainson7831]

Hey. Love your videos! Just having a look at the actual ford towing guide for 2017. I think your expedition has a dead hitch capacity of 6,000 pounds and dead tongue weight of 600 at the maxes. The 9200 looks like a theoretical max with a proper wdh set-up, which will transfer weight, not eliminate it, to your drive axle and your trailer frame/axle. I’d suggest using the dead weight numbers for your calculations. You’re going to run out of axle capacity - either front axle with a wdh or rear axle without it - if you tow upwards of 8 to 9 thousand pounds. Plus most of those lighter trailers I’d question the tension that wdh is putting on the frame. Truck might be the safer math. Good luck!

[@myqlj1]

I second this. Most dealers, both RV and auto, ignore payload capacity when considering towing, and merely consider "Tow Capacity". The latter can only happen with an ideal truck configuration with an ideal trailer, which travel trailers never are. The weight bottleneck in order to be "legal" will almost always be the truck's carrying capacity: Payload. One other thing to consider is potential gusting crosswind load on a longer trailer.

[@yoyomom1]

Follow Josh the RV nerd here. He is really informative about weight. He also demonstrates, in his videos, how accessible everything is with the slides folded in for quick overnight stops. He calls it “road mode.” He has helped us a lot narrowing down our options. We tow a 21’ about 4000 lb GVWR with our Jeep GC w/a 7200 tow rating.

[@mommaangela9302]

My rig is 33’ Forest River Salem. I love it. I don’t have any problems towing it. I’m solo. One thing I’d like to point out is many National and State Park campgrounds have length limits such as no longer than 27’ or 32’ etc. That is something you’ll need to consider and research instead you want to go camping.

[@simplelife5861]

Another big thing to consider is accessibility to bathroom and fridge when slides are in. Big help when traveling with littles.

[@GratefulGlamper]

Good to know, thanks for sharing and for watching

[@bobabooie6389]

Yes

[@Tsch6373]

The last one has an oven that none of the others had. Murphy bed is an excellent use of space. I like the bunks in the back of this (last) rig. I own a 25' Keystone Passport 219bh purchased new in 2021. Has a Murphy bed, double over double bunks, has an oven, no slides, ducted a/c. Sleeps 7 (using the dinette table). There is lots of storage via drawers (under the sofa/MB, under the dinette benches and the counter top), plenty of kitchen prep space. Not one to overlook. Oh and it is two axel.

[@Rick-x8h]

Don’t rent! Yeah you can make a bit of cash but you do not know the people and how educated or not they are. Plus the maintenance and repairs if they screw up. And maybe a law suit. If you get another then have it for you and only you. Don’t trust nobody. Sounds brash but it’s truth. I would hate to see you on the losing end of a bad situation. Think about it.

[@LdeBluEyes]

We have the Minnie Winnie 2327TB and we absolutely love it with the twin beds.

[@neilcherylscott6380]

Also check the payload capacity on the Expedition (inside sticker on drivers door), not just the towing capacity. Don’t want the tail wagging the dog! We have a 26 foot GD Transcend that’s 6147 lbs dry and tongue weight is 647lbs dry weight

[@GratefulGlamper]

Thanks for the info!

[@JeanieBooher]

We downsized a couple of years ago. We are weekenders, use our camper for “camping” only. One thing I can see from this video is that you are not giving enough consideration to 1) - Tank size - Nothing worse than having to either cut a trip short or tear-down your campsite to go dump the tanks or always carry a portable tank tote. Not pleasant! And 2) - The bathroom size - Even tho it’s fully self contained, just sitting on a toilet or trying to dry-off after showering in the smaller bathrooms is a real pain, and going to a shower house is not always necessarily ‘getting clean’ because we have found that the majority (not all) of campgrounds don’t necessarily clean their shower houses. (Some have been downright disgusting!). Granted, we pull our TT with a truck so opting for a unit that’s a little longer is an option so that we can accommodate larger tanks and bathroom size. But, for us, my idea of “glamping” is using our own bathroom and is hands-down the #1 priority when choosing a unit for our family of 4. Just my 2cents worth!

[@varcement]

When we first bought an RV my husband said 24 ft is longest for backing up reasons (our driveway I crazier than any campsite) and for weight for our F150 at that time. (That was 20 years ago, so now we have moved up n what we have and can do much longer). Our first travel trailer had bunk room with 4 bunks and was perfect when our kids were kids)

[@heatherjolly8389]

I love the idea of a Murphy bed with a couch underneath because who wants to stare at their bed all day long? I mean I get that it's camping shorter trips etc but I just think that's a really cool feature!

[@Tsch6373]

I agree, it's also excellent use of space in a small TT! Love my 2021 Keystone Passport 219bh, as a solo, it has everything I could ever ask for, truly cozy!

[@timwoody3835]

The advantage of the twin bed model is that for those of us who are length enhanced (TALL! - I’m 6’-6”) the mattress can stretch the full length of the bedroom. You don’t have to take up an extra 1-2 feet to be able to walk around the bed. As far as suv towing goes, any dry weight over 5600 pounds (max rating for Ford Explorer, others are similar) will move you up to Expedition class vehicles, max tow package medium trucks (Ford Ranger, Chevy Colorado) and half ton pickups.

[@carolynhogan6816]

Have you considered a bunk house in a travel trailer. We have had 3 the last one is A Heartland North Trail. But I liked the Jayco that had a large slide out in the bunk house. BUT if you want to make a BIG change. There is a 5th wheel that has a bunk house with 2 bedrooms that each have a slide out. Making it separate rooms.

[@RobertMcDowell-y3h]

If you are thinking about down sizing, what about a class C you can drive it to dinner and other places like your car and you do not have pull a tow vehicle.

[@davidtriplett3057]

We loved our Jayco 26BH. It easily slept our whole family, gave us a made-up master, kept the lav separate from the toilet/shower, and avoided the added weight and complexity of slides. High value that served our family well until we evolved into empty nesters and graduated to an Arctic Fox 32A.

[@christopherhamm1574]

My wife and I are currently looking for our first and probably only rv. Mostly for the two of us and our German Shepherd. Our daughter and her potential future husband and most probably grandchildren so a model that sleeps 4-6 is optimal. We will be towing with a 1/2 ton full size pickup with a tow rating of 9700lbs and a cargo capacity of 1700 lbs. Although we are not really interested in a bunkhouse model we haven’t ruled them out due to the extra storage space they can provide. Tops on our list of “must haves” is a solid build quality. I want this camper to last well past the last finance payment. Of course I must do my part too. Ive seen lots of new units with broken shower doors, loose trim and other deal breaking quality issues. Other needs are: private bedroom with ample space to get dressed, real wood cabinets (no vinyl wrapped particle board or MDF, decent kitchen counter space, solid surface counters, a decent size bathroom, dinette and a sofa/sleeper. Sounds like we are looking for a magical unicorn. Throw on top of that decent camp side windows…. So here is what we have learned, lavish outdoor kitchens chew up a ton of needed indoor storage. I can throw my portable grill or stove on an outside table and cook just fine without smoke and grease splattering all over the side of a trailer. Coachmen underbed storage systems are amazing and imho should be on every rv made. But, I am not a fan of the “wood” used in their cabinets. I love double sided Azdel or similar walls. I am not a fan of Luan. Ive seen it used in home construction (floor underlayment) and it seems to be an excellent seeker and absorber of moisture. Luan makes great mold food. Everything in our search has been some sort of compromise except for a few models of certain manufacturers. I will say this, Ive seen some manufacturers under the Forest River umbrella that are top shelf and some that I don’t like. Its fun watching your take on our search. Thanks for the great content.

[@larry-katebrenner8014]

Be careful towing with a 1/2 ton. You MUST look at your over all capacity. Remember to take gas and people into consideration. In addition you need to know what your bumper can handle. Most 1/2 tons are much more limited than you think. DO NOT rely on the dealer for what you can tow. Do the math yourself. I’ve heard a number of horror stories where folks were sold something their vehicle couldn’t handle. I had a 1/2 ton and my uncle has one - your numbers don’t add up when you take everything into account. Just be CAREFUL is what I’m saying. I think the Glampers need to review their numbers too.

[@christopherhamm1574]

@@larry-katebrenner8014 without any doubt

[@christopherhamm1574]

@@larry-katebrenner8014 without a doubt. Ive done my homework for sure but still have not settled on “the one” yet.

[@terryhaynes1596]

I think you might not be looking at cargo carrying capacity and tongue weight. Just because it is say 7000 lbs it could be to heavy because of pin weight. A CCC of less than a thousand pounds could be very troublesome as well.

[@Findingourhappyplace]

My first RV was a 29'11" sunline that I towed with a chevy 1500 towed great.

[@simplelife5861]

We had a 24’ with no master bedroom, (pull out couch) and we had a 27’ with a bedroom. Both had bunks, no slides. I preferred the separate bedroom. I like the layout with the Murphy bed over the couch, bunks for kids and a full bath that is not a walk through.

[@GratefulGlamper]

Us too! Thanks for watching

[@radioactivemike1]

If you’re looking for rentals, just make a list of what all the rental places are using. Cargo is the endless limiting factor of tow vehicles. My F150 will pull my airstream, 3 people, snacks, paddle boards and not much more due to its 1500lb cargo. I’m sure your suv will have a much smaller cargo capacity. Check the door sticker….and make sure the tires support this idea.

[@MarleneGreenwell]

We have 26’ not too overwhelming for beginners anything larger may be- we went with 4 kids tent -to pop-up (+1>kid) to 26’ trailer & love it- now just need elbow space😁

[@sandramcfarland2704]

We bought our first TT in 2019 and were limited by needing to stay within the limits of hubby’s Toyota Tacoma. We found that in the size range like you are looking for, you either get the larger fridge or larger pantry space. We opted with larger fridge and bought a Surveyor Legend 19bhle. We’ve been happy with it, but yes the bunks are too small for adults. We are hoping to upgrade truck and camper in the next year and are considering a 33ft fifth wheel. Really liking Keystone.

[@willriddle4802]

My wife and I bought our first Trailer in October 2023. We got a Starcraft 241BH, we love it and it sleeps 6-8 and when since we have some big dogs (120lb Shoty and 100 Shep mix) when the slid it out we have a ton of room.

[@GratefulGlamper]

Good to know - thanks for the comment.

[@arthurcutting9227]

Better check that towing capacity for the SUV a little closer. It says 9600 pounds if properly equipped. That may mean an entirely different model than your extended version. As an example a long bed two wheel drive single cab F-150 has the biggest tow rating but everyone has the crew cab four wheel drive that only tows 8500.

[@loganl7547]

In terms of first time towing a shorter RV may sound like it makes more sense but after 1 summer of towing you'll get just as good at pulling a 30ft as you would a 20, other factors to consider are, as you mentioned, the weight, but also the height, as a taller RV is more susceptible to crosswind, and the number of axles, when going down the road the number of axles really just determines how much the weight of the rv is distributed, but backing up is a different story, a 2 axle trailer is more difficult to pivot than a single axle, infact it can be very difficult for a beginner to keep a single axle rv straight while backing up

[@niterider3131]

Our first towable was a 30ft 5th wheel. However with that being said I did drive OTR truck pulling 53ft trailers

[@GratefulGlamper]

👍🏻

[@moonlightgardener6305]

We just bought a 23’ Jayco Feather Micro 199mbs. It is 4510 dry weight, 5750 GVWR and 625 dry hitch weight. It sleeps up to 8. We have 5 grand daughters that we want to be able to take with us. We were looking at the same thing as you guys in that we wanted a shorter travel trailer, sleep at least six people, and not put stress on our half ton dodge rebel.

[@geemoe3064]

You may want to check if your 9200 lb limit on the truck includes the driver too in the weight. Enjoy your videos - thank you!

[@merlpriester]

Towing capacity is the weight of the trailer. The weight capacity of your tow vehicle is the weight of the passengers, fuel, anything in the bed and the tongue weight. Half ton vehicles will get overloaded in a hurry.

[@TravelSmallLiveBig]

We love our Grand Design Imagine 17MKE, but it's just two adults and a Labrador retriever. If we have guests... I think a tent would work - HA HA! And we are full-time.

[@timolson7005]

does it HAVE 3:73 gears? most expedition, even with the "tow package" have 3:31. its a dealer stupidity thing.. ford assssssumes that the dealer will actually read the tow guidelines and order max expedition tow and the 3:73 at the same time to actually have the tow rating that they say they have.. its not a minor issue or hassle.. my wife and i got burned - max tow - but 3:31 and oh my god.. 3rd gear struggling on a overpass hill 2nd gear on bigger hills and screaming. it matters, we gave up on our expedition towing after that - its a fabulous car, but ... omg 3:31 sucks.. you are good folks do your own reasarch.

[@njstan8188]

Love twin beds. Much easier to make the bed, no crawling out or over.

[@GratefulGlamper]

True story!

[@brianschwotzer5132]

You have got to check out the Rockwood 2509s. It is about 7000 GVRW. We bought it to tow behind our Chevy Tahoe. Dual torsion axel and tows like a dream! We have towed about 5000 miles. It is a bunkhouse with a front murphy bed. It has two pantries with a nice u shape dinette that can fold down and sleep two adults!

[@GratefulGlamper]

Thanks for the info!

[@dasfinc]

WE had a 26DJSE Grey wolf as our first camper for 5 years. Slept up to 8? 26 foot long, no slides 4500lbs dry; would HIGHLY recommend that same layout again for rental consideration honestly (Rear bunkhouse, front RV Queen, Jackknife and dinette). Drug it all over the country.

[@GratefulGlamper]

Thanks for the info!

[@rodneylw10]

I was snickering as you looked through the trailers and talked about sleeping 6 and towing it with an SUV. You really have to go by fully loaded weight not dry weight for weight limit and the tongue is nearly always more than they say. My 25' has an advertised tongue weight of 860 but it is 1000# at CAT scale. Then there is the cargo or payload limit of the tow vehicle. My F150 is 1605# payload. My tongue weight takes 1000# of that so the cargo and me and even a friend about max out my vehicle and it is a max tow. When shopping I had to qualify the beds as child or adult rather than how many beds. Some sleep areas are ridiculous. I went to the show too and saw so much. Fun.

[@GratefulGlamper]

Thanks for the comment and for watching!

[@LadyCamilleE]

When I was a newbie towing a 20’ BH it was enough to stress me out. I was able to tow with Grand Caravan. With more experience I was able to park it around trees on sites.

[@nicoleolson2790]

We bought a 32 foot first and didn’t like it. Not so much towing it (agree it can feel the same with 20-30 feet as an example). We opted for a way smaller camper bc we like to be tucked away, hidden in a campsite. Think privacy not pull through for us. Not everyone feels the same but for us smaller was way better. If you RV full time that would be way too small. We currently are a family of 6 (+2 big dogs) and we have a 20 foot, 4 bunks, bathroom, kitchen and dinette we never use as a table (our bed). It a 1969 we completely redid. We love it! Once the kids are gone we would use the bunks for storage.

[@carls2u]

I just always have a tent and comfortable bed for it, the kiddos sleep outside like I always did. My husband is a truck driver and he won’t do a long towable. We pull a 35’ fifth wheel garage model. Why, the winds etc.

[@tammieflemal7871]

I had a 22 foot trailer loved it but towing was something that caused me way too much anxiety especially when a driver attempted to merge onto the highway BETWEEN my 1500 truck(every time I took my camper out the check engine light light would come on🤬) and the trailer. After that trip I sold the camper and bought a small van. I’d had enough of the limited parking and low gas mileage. I also trained the truck for a mid sized SUV

[@GratefulGlamper]

Thanks for sharing your experience and for watching

[@PudPop1980]

Checkout the Forest River Rockwood 2509S, full size bunks, HUGE dinette, Murphy bed with couch

[@tracyh1466]

We had a travel trailer when our kids were little. Had a murphy bed and hated it. Most uncomfortably bed because the mattress split in our low back. Loved the layout with the bunk with double bed on bottom for our older son though.

[@Tsch6373]

My Murphy bed folds 90° instead of being split as yours was. I did swap out the mattress for a foam one which added weight.

[@jerrydonovan7507]

Our current trailer (we have had a few different ones over the years) has a walk-though bathroom. We love it. Our previous trailers have had small room type bathrooms and that was always a big negative for us. The walk-through bathrooms have lots of room to spread out our wings while drying off after a shower while those others felt too confining. There is just the two of us on most trips now, but even when our grown daughter goes with us, we have not had an issue with the bathroom being occupied, since the bedroom is the only thing blocked off, which is not used most of the time. On the other topics, I would not buy or rent a trailer with a murphy bed. It is too much of a hassle and the bed is even less comfortable than the typical RV mattress. Liquids weigh a little over 8.3 lbs per gallon, so 30 gallons is 250 lbs, and other gear adds up quickly as well. Regarding renting out a trailer, while most renters will treat your trailer at least somewhat nice, there are quite a few that will be a little more rough on it. Figure on more depreciation than the average trailer you only use yourself. Molding will break loose, surfaces will get scratched or worn quicker, etc.

[@GratefulGlamper]

Thanks for the comment!

[@dancingmama6]

Our one and only travel trailer is 29ft. We were looking for something very specific. We have six children. When we bought the trailer, our oldest was a senior in high school. We have a quad bunkhouse. Now our youngest is 18 and we only have one left at home. We did it out of necessity. I wouldn't buy one that long to use as a rental though.

[@pbgijoe]

I have a Wildwood XLite 240BHXL Travel Trailer and it's great for camping. love the outside door to the bathroom great for kids to use so they don't track through the travel Trailer.

[@GratefulGlamper]

Awesome! Thanks for watching and for the comment

[@calburnIII]

Empty weight is meaningless. Nobody tows empty, and almost everyone loads a lot more than they think they do. So use the trailer’s gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) to decide whether it’s towable with a specific tow vehicle. 300-500 lbs of added stuff is really an underestimate. If you’re really expecting a safe tow with a medium size SUV, you better think 20’ or less.

[@GratefulGlamper]

Thanks for the comment - yes, we've talked alot about how most Rver's are "overweight" on their towable RV's.

[@lindacusick1156]

We had a 27” one slide out. Bathroom up front bed room in back good kitchen

[@sandymanning8744]

Thank you for sharing the different types of campers and the pros/cons of each. I would pass by any single axle because the double axle will give better stability, easier to change tires and etc..... God Bless and I love y'all 💕💕💕

[@SpykersB]

And better CCC. 🍻

[@donnavernon7023]

Trinity if you get a rear bathroom and the sleeper is out in the floor with people you will have to climb over them.

[@bobabooie6389]

Trying to get one where the bathroom is in the middle and you don't have to open a slide when you're on the side of the road traveling. If you can get one with a big back window that would be nice when you're at the river or a lake you can have a nice view. And also if you can get rack and pinion slides instead of schwintek. Schwintek sucks👍🇺🇲

[@richardfoley3020]

Great Reviews! Would you consider adding measurements of sleeping areas, the shower areas, and height of shower to your reviews? Just so we can get a better understanding of the trailer youre showcasing. A tape measure goes a long way and i think it would do well in one of your "top must haves" episodes.

[@GratefulGlamper]

Great idea!

[@Edwardsjourney]

My first criteria is that it fits in my driveway because I don't want to pay for storage, so 26ft max for us.

[@deanh6689]

Alot of the state park and some of the older parks the most of the sites are 30feet or less you might find some longer but are few

[@GratefulGlamper]

👍

[@ammiedoering4205]

We went to a pull behind from a 5th wheel and REGRETTED it. A pull behind does not drive well. We are in Daytona looking to get a new 5th wheel. I am trading in my suv for a new truck.

[@GratefulGlamper]

Interesting! Thanks for sharing

[@bradleypriester9833]

We have a lance 2185. 25 ft sleeps up to 7. Id definitely be looking to the payload not the tow capacity. With 4 people in the suv you will be pushing it with most of these trailers.

[@GratefulGlamper]

Good thought - thanks for the comment

[@druellapartee2010]

I am looking into an RV-CamperVan Motorhome Park and location for Senior Citizens like a Retirement Community… Nursing Homes ARE NOT for everyone and are becoming more and more unsafe… Those I have spoken to would prefer that life than Nursing Homes… Other Amenities will be included like a Medical RV and Motorhome on site for Caregivers!😊🌹

[@GratefulGlamper]

Best wishes in finding the best option for what you need 😊

[@darrencontinoytube]

I don’t know what State you are in so completely general but I know there are municipalities that forbid adult only parks. Only mentioning it so you can cross t’s and dot i’s. Let us know where you locate!

[@brownsugar1616]

Wow! I'm surprised ! I almost never read comments, but the RV Assisted Living situation is exactly what I've been looking for! I tow with a Ford Expedition and it does a great job. I tow a 2018 Forest River Surveyor 245BHS. I got the bunkhouse model for extra storage. My dream tow vehicle is a Ford Excursion, but they are really hard to find .

[@RickandDarcirvadventures]

escapees has an assisted living park in Livingston, TX

[@vaporflayer1469]

First thing I noticed in the video is that you did a general google search of the tow capacity of your vehicle. First thing is look up by your vin number of the actual tow capacity of it. Then what I use for general rule is you do 80% or less that towing capacity. Just my initial thoughts on your search.

[@GratefulGlamper]

Thanks for the feedback

[@RickandDarcirvadventures]

You can’t only think of the dry weight. You have to think about the cargo carrying capacity and if the people you will rent to will overload that trailer.

[@michaelwalker8501]

131” wheelbase on your expedition max with about 1700lbs of payload. I would limit length to 25’ and GVWR if the RV to 8000lbs in order to keep tongue weight under 1000 lbs when fully loaded.

[@GratefulGlamper]

Thanks for the info!

[@krmie6405]

We are glampers. Bought a TT to have the campground move on and off site and store for us. We do not like the "bounce" when inside and moving around. We are trying to figure it out or it will ne a short lived ownership. Our class A doesn't bounce when we walk. Downsizing is never easy.

[@Traveler_GAL]

I loved my Coachmen 257bhs. Sleeps 5-6 and under 7500 pounds. Azdel inside and out. It comes with a tub too. It was just too big for 1 person. 😊 So far I’ve owned 3 Coacchmen. 1. Apex nano hybrid. 2 Coachmen 257 freedom express. 3 Coachmen 192 rbs. ** while watching I’m like saying out loud. Go see coachmen lol I know you couldn’t hear me😅

[@GratefulGlamper]

Thanks for sharing!

[@mindydodgen2024]

Don't get a single axel!!! One tire goes out and you're in trouble. It is not as stable to tow in any weather. Our son had a tire blow and it was so dangerous.

[@GratefulGlamper]

Yikes! Thanks for sharing - good point!

[@bostonmom9602]

What about a toy hauler... they come with bunk beds in the back. Ours had 2 bunks and a queen bed so it was suitable for at least 6.

[@GratefulGlamper]

Most are larger than what our SUV can safely tow

[@f14flyer11]

most SUV's or light trucks that have tow packages can tow 7000-7500 lbs.

[@Kingskruisin]

We're looking at the Delta TT by Alliance. 252RL but they have others. Can be pulled by half ton

[@GratefulGlamper]

Nice!

[@gebertg]

My opinion, 28 feet is big for an SUV, but not impossible if you are withing payload and GVWR capacity. I would focus more on tongue weight and payload of your tow vehicle as some SUVs are limited due to the body weight. Consider the extra gear and people in the vehicle too. You will almost always hit tow vehicle payload, tow vehicle GVWR, and tow vehicle rear axle rating way before hitting tow capacity. Also, I wouldn't go over 6,000# dry as you'll likely be close to 7,000# loaded and towing at the max capacity will wear the drivetrain down.

[@gebertg]

As an example, I have a 14,000# GVWR 39'-4" fifth wheel with a 2,000# UNLOADED pin weight. My 3500 SRW diesel truck has a 25,120# tow rating and a 12,300# GVWR. At 14,000#, our truck scales in at 12,280#, meaning we are only 20# under truck GVWR while still being over 10,000# under my tow capacity.

[@GratefulGlamper]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@jaynefrederickson5058]

We pulled a 28 ft with a large SUV. All the weight was within parameters. BUT, it was terrible towing. Had to get a truck. Just an FYI. Start smaller.

[@Pacamamma]

There are so many great options!

[@MikeWitzenburg-fb9tn]

Not a bad idea buying a travel trailer to use and rent out. We thought about renting out our class A diesel but with 4 slides we thought to many things could go wrong. Have you looked into how much your insurance will go up if you decide to go that route ?

[@Scott-gx3ne]

Check out a keystone passport SL 268BH. 5800 pounds, sleeps 8-10 people 30foot long and I tow the rv with my Toyota Tacoma. It’s a great size not too big not too small.

[@GratefulGlamper]

Thanks for the suggestion!

[@amandam8035]

Our first truck was a 1/2 ton, we have a towable camper that is 34 ft. We did end up upgrading our truck so it really is no big deal now. We pulled it with that 1/2 ton for a year though. It wasn’t a big deal.

[@amandam8035]

I probably need to leave and edit here. My husband is very good at towing, we own a business and it’s pretty much a daily thing. We also NEVER had any tanks filled with anything. So we always went to campgrounds that had full hook ups. Now it’s not an issue at all, but we had to be very mindful what we had in the camper

[@GratefulGlamper]

Thanks for sharing!

[@amandam8035]

Thank you! We are actually headed to an RV show in Kansas City this weekend. We are upgrading to a 5th wheel this year.

[@tm8747]

how about a MPG 25 BHS" like i have . you get a ing size bed, a real king size bed, like at home, and all the extras, i purchased mine in a liensale auction, that was only 2 months old bought from the bank, the only thing i did different was i installed a household refrigerator from the 10cu.ft, to 18cu.ft, with ice maker builtin. the dry weight is , 5100# or you can go with the 2200 dry weight is 4800#s,

[@ralphp3057]

Was checking out some of your videos! I never considered full time RV ing . Went straight into building a tiny home base first! Then a small fiberglass RV . And a heads up about RV shopping now ! They are mostly built like junk now and overpriced! Definitely do your homework! Good luck .👍😁

[@GratefulGlamper]

Thank you and thanks for watching

[@darrencontinoytube]

I’d love to do this with our Toy hauler pull behind. I am just so worried about , well things. I will be watching all your progress 😊🍿

[@GratefulGlamper]

Thanks!

[@nancyfanello7425]

Renting out your Rv may cause serious problems, I have seen rented rv’s, they get trashed.

[@GratefulGlamper]

We do like the RV sharing platforms because we can “vet” renters first. Thanks for watching

[@brentshepard3925]

Love her shirt!

[@GratefulGlamper]

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[@stephenpolos1689]

Good video just saying that Ford or Lincoln doesn't seem able to tow a trailer suspension is not designed to pull trailers 🤔

[@GratefulGlamper]

Thanks for the feedback

[@TeacherTonya74]

As long as it's under 30 for parks. Man, if I knew you were going to be at the Tampa RV show, I would have tried harder to go. It was just a little too cool for my little one.

[@GratefulGlamper]

It’s been cold this week! Thanks for watching

[@michelleconcannon7584]

We avoid Thor. Which is hard considering how many companies Thor owns. Some they've left alone more than others. Went to the show today, there's no shortage of things to choose from!

[@GratefulGlamper]

So true, lots to see! Thanks for watching

[@beckynewport5980]

One criteria we would consider is we need a true queen verses a camp queen. I enjoy your videos.

[@GratefulGlamper]

Yes! Thank you!

[@adriannurse1502]

I worry about you guys. If you rent it out ultimately you are responsible for it. Will you start a corporation to separate you from the liability? What will you do if they get a flat tire? Who will you get to fix it for them? What about repairs on the road? How about if they back it into something or another rig. Renting out an RV is a lot of responsibility.

[@GratefulGlamper]

Very true! Yes, we would put the rental under our LLC - we are still researching but there are some extra protections via the insurance that is provided but the RV sharing platforms (similar to what airbnb provides for hosts). Thanks for the comment.

[@movingthenest]

With your tow vechicle, you need to look at payload...which you will quickly run out of. Figure on 10% of the weight for your tongue weight and then add in the weight of your WD, plus people, plus gear in the car, and you are prob overweight for payload. As far as length, I wouldn't go longer than 27 total feet with a good WD system. Much longer it will become the tail wagging the dog.

[@GratefulGlamper]

Good to know, thanks for the comment

[@mattwin1986]

dont tow with an expedition. the rear independent suspension dont like heavy loads. lots of sway. And the differential will burn up. It isn't made to pull heavy loads long distance. Get a truck, with a straight axle. It will save you a lot of headache in the future.

[@GratefulGlamper]

Good to know!

[@okinawadonkichi]

@@GratefulGlamper Nah. Expedition tows just fine if you don't overload it. I have had 2 (2017 Platinum and 2021 Platinum) towing various TTs, most recently my 2021 towing a 27ft @ 8,000 lbs loaded weight, 780 lbs on the tongue. Just fine going cross country for a total of 10,000 miles. Not an issue with sway, even in the Dakotas (IYKYK). Just have to use a good weight distribution/anti sway hitch, I use an Andersen. Edit: If you are going to get close to the tongue weight max, I suggest getting SUMO spring helpers installed (I would do it, regardless). Also, WD hitches are a personal preference, but the Andersen is around 40-50 lbs lighter (less tongue weight) than traditional torsion bar style and they reduce the amount of porpoising that is inherent in a torsion bar WD hitch. If you want to chat about experiences towing a TT with an Expedition, let me know and I will drop you my email address.

[@philipgerry5228]

The pickups tend to have a longer wheelbase and tow easier than SUVs. I’ve towed with SUVs and pickups..pickups are easier for towing.

[@GratefulGlamper]

Good to know!

[@redfoot69]

I live full time flag staff e pro 19 fd travel trailer only weighs 2850 lbs dry weight pull with a 4 cylinder pickup.

[@GratefulGlamper]

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[@gregmeyer2897]

Our empty nester RV is a 2250rk

[@johnnunez17]

I had a 27’, no problem, easy to pull.

[@GratefulGlamper]

Good to hear!

[@timolson7005]

i love our mini wini mattresses all got swapped

[@PamMacKay-l9l]

Your estimated weight added for water, clothes, dishes, etc is low. The fresh water alone will be #gallons x 8.8lbs. The trailer will have a max cargo capacity and hitch weight that has to be added to get to the actual weight being towed

[@hhawknv123]

Hi, love your information, BUT, before you really consider anything that you will turn into a rental, please check out a national class c rental company for the wear and tear of there units. In your grandparents day I would say, good idea. Today, not in a hundred years. People do not take care of anything anymore. In one trip the nicest people can destroy your pride and joy. Had friends that thought renting a trailer was a great way to make extra income. Bought trailer, after first rental, sold it. The damage amounted one fourth of the value of the trailer. We live in las Vegas, NV.

[@GratefulGlamper]

Thanks for sharing!

[@charliedeckard7896]

Size goes by bumper to end a tongue

[@ZXX984]

I thought you would consider a Class C. Are there any Jaycos there?

[@GratefulGlamper]

Yes lots of Jaycos! Come on down and check out the show!

[@ZXX984]

@@GratefulGlamper too far for a day trip.

[@MsChrystophe]

Having the kids behind a door is a great plus in our family, so the grand design one would get 5 travel trailers in our household😊

[@GratefulGlamper]

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[@dfnsmn1411]

Listen to those talking about tongue weight being WAY more important than gvwr. Tow capacity doesn't matter. Payload limitations are all that matters. Midsize SUV means something under a gvwr of 4000lbs really. Only Durango and maybe a Pathfinder are midsize that can handle 4000-4500 pounds. All other midsize are gonna be WAY too low of payload.

[@GratefulGlamper]

Thanks for the info!

[@SpykersB]

Did u know the specs length includes the hitch eh 😂🍻

[@beccabrinkley1230]

We love our grand design imagine 2400BH and tow it with our SUV!

[@GratefulGlamper]

Good to know! Thanks for watching

[@pgithens1]

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