Why We Bought a Cirrus SR20! (Best Single Engine Training Plane?)

[@rruades99]

I’m a corporate pilot and I been flying for more than 15 years, I think you did a good choice when decided to buy the SR20 as a training plane, the only thing is that you are going to need to do later some hours on another plane with conventional yoke, that’s going to give you the bases of the feeling needed to fly any other kind of aircrafts.

[@elonpatrick4722]

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[@jamesryland7104]

@Elon Patrick flixportal =)

[@elonpatrick4722]

@James Ryland thank you, signed up and it seems like they got a lot of movies there :) I really appreciate it!

[@jamesryland7104]

@Elon Patrick you are welcome :D

[@maxjensen8500]

What you guys are doing also inspires us 50 yr olds who never thought flying was an option 👍

[@abdozargelin6114]

I'm still in high school junior year and the motivation you guys give is awesome I used to know close to nothing about planes but know even if I don't become a pilot a private jet is something I would love because of you guys,keep it up👌👌🔥🔥

[@justagiraffe2868]

High school freshman here, so slightly different but still the same. Absolutely agree dude

[@chriswinton]

OHHH this is the guy on Matt's videos. He flew all across Alaska with him.

[@michaeljerez2040]

Congrats on the cirrus guys! Great seeing other young people get into aviation I’m 20 years old with my cfi, cfii, and mei and over 500 hours of flight time. If your ever in Florida It would be dope to go up with you guy’s and getting you greasing the runway in no time

[@stamis22]

So I'm a pilot at Purdue studying professional flight. I got my private in a DA20 and quickly got checked out in a 172 before college, and at Purdue, we fly SR20's. Don't get me wrong, I think its a great airplane and there is a lot that you can do with it in training, I would encurage you to fly a 172 or diamond or Cherokee as well because there are a lot of little issues I feel the sr20 has for a private trainer aircraft. It is a little overpowered for a new pilot and it's a little more "clean" as an aircraft in control. I don't know if that makes much sense but basically what I mean is that I feel like in the 172 or da20 or 160 you learn these natural stick and rudder feels that i just don't feel in the cirrus. Now as he said its great that you can keep flying it through all your other license, and if its being used beyond just training, then it is a fantastic aircraft, but if the sole purpose is training I think there are better planes on the market. (I would also like to say that of the 7 different aircraft I have flown and am checked out in, the SR20 is my favorite, so don't think i have a bias against it or anything). Also i would NOT pull out the analog flight instruments, at least not until you have your private, and maybe even after some practice with them IFR. I think that being able to read the analog gauges is an extremely important skill to have, but once you're comfortable with them, then transition to glass cockpit (which is easier to use). I think it's always good to get all the fundamentals down with you as the pilot having to know everything, and only later letting the plane take some of the load off of you (kinda like learning to actually fly the airplane and not just how to turn the autopilot on and off).

[@madconewheels8546]

Sweet!!! You guus flew over my home town near El Paso!!! How freaken sweet!!! I love what we can learn from KZbin and youtubers like you!!! Thank you guys for your contribution and awesome content!!!

[@scottiencali]

Im really glad you didnt go for the "wrecked to rebuild" on the plane purchase like you do the cars!! Much safer!! :)

[@mouser485]

I’m glad I got my license in the venerable Cessna 172, very docile and forgiving but as soon as you acquire your PPL you want to move up to something faster and more complex. With the SR20 you’ve kind of already obtained the “fast plane” so in the long run this was probably the right decision.

[@sethbaldwin249]

I’m 21 and going to college to be a pilot!! Its barred right out of Arkansas called Henderson State University, and we mainly use maules that are for the most part IFR equipped. They get beat to hell, especially in the fall with so many new freshmen coming in to do the same thing I’m doing and you guys are doing. I seriously love what I plan on doing with my career and wouldn’t change it for anything.

[@andrewcarlssin4385]

I always wanted to start flying. My dad learned when I was a child. We would fly with him. The fun memories.

[@andrewjaschke7019]

Just as a pro tip for training. Fly as much as possible and try a get through training as fast as possible. For commercial build X country time because you’ll need it for ATP if you go that route. Also the sim is your best friend for instrumental rating. But love the video boys and good luck on training.

[@humanfactorswithpaulgarth9596]

6:57 - Yup. Take full advantage of what you have, which is amazing. I'm looking forward to following both of you in progressing towards CFII in this aircraft. Not sure if this is the plan, but the current setup is perfect for actual training. One of you in front with the CFI, while the other is in the back observing and taking notes. You'll both experience all the training "twice" and it will really pay off. 13:29 - Owen rocks. He has some form of sub-aural process running that overrides any in-cockpit chatter.

[@JRAviation]

Thank you for the comment! Looking forward to training. Yes, Owen is like a hawk for ATC communications. Didn’t miss one call the whole flight home!

[@midwestpilot6079]

Great video and great choice on the cirrus! I know you guys are COPA members.. That is probably your single best resource to learn everything Cirrus and aviation in general. Best advice on learning to fly is to go up often. Once a week is no good. Too much repetition. Go up as often as you can. Enjoy the Cirrus!

[@jeeberlewis7352]

Hopefully the FAA doesn’t see Owen without his harness latched haha. So happy for you guys, stoked to see you in a Cirrus. See you up there! :-)

[@Picklemydickle377]

As long as he has his lap belt on during cruise he’s legal

[@Diidou1214]

@@Picklemydickle377 On the Cirrus the lap belt and shoulder harness are combined and clap together in one single point in the middle. So it's either you have everything on or off, but you can't separate them. :)

[@flight73vlogs4]

Man beautiful aircraft. Welcome to aircraft ownership!! I used to own a c150... I miss it so much. Fly safe and happy landings.

[@codyjohnson3756]

I just finished up my private in a Cirrus SR20 Gen 3. It's a blast to fly, you guys will have so much fun. Best of luck to you guys!

[@Jacob99.]

I’m a newly instrument rated pilot in San Francisco. I’d definitely recommend holding off on the g1000/ glass panels until u finish your IRA, I’ve been told learning off the round dials help make u a sharper pilot. Nice vid guys and lmk if u have any questions about flying

[@CaptainCurt07]

---GUYS THIS IS REMARKABLE--- As for side yoke, that’s what high end aircraft use, obviously u took that into consideration! And once u get ur certification u can get a cert for whatever else, and the fact u both need a aircraft and most likely 50-60 hrs each x2 being FORTUNATE ENOUGH and BLESSED to be able to make this happen is truly a PILOTS DREAM COME TRUE! And MOM LOVES the BALLISTIC CHUTE I’m sure because my mom is most likely like yours “ SHES WORRIES ABOUT HER BOYS” Again We r very excited and happy for you guys! Hope to see you guys at a fly-in one day, that’s when I can afford to finish my certification 👍🏼

[@JRAviation]

Thank you so much for the comment! We are loving it so far, and excited for the times ahead!!

[@mikaraurala1358]

Good choice for sure. Fly as often as you can and maintain/operate her meticously. At approx 16:50 I notice that your cyl #1 EGT temperature bounces around. Have your EGT/CHT harness connectors checked/cleaned. These [pre mod] are notoriously prone to fail and there is a Cirrus mod. bulletin. I suggest get the mod done, so that you get reliable temp indications which will enable you to operate your engine the proper way. Cheers & Tail winds 👍

[@Rooksaho]

So strange Ive been flying for southwest for 23 years but I watched your car vids about a year or so ago and had no idea you flew good for you man

Nice and clever choice. Thanks for sharing your experience and have fun with your new toy. Blue skies and safe flights.

[@BaxterretxaB]

I own a piper arrow 200hp with a G500 and a GTN750 installed. Your friend was right. That is a wonderful combination of avionics. The screens are similar in size and look great in the panel. I’m located in North Carolina but would always be down to meet up even if it’s off camera just to fly and talk airplanes. Good luck with the new plane.

[@CarFul]

Wonderful to see you evolving from cars to planes 👍👍😀😀

[@danlincoln8987]

I enjoyed the v12 Mercedes flip, that brought me to this channel, keep up the great work guys

[@unclefester420]

Nikko from Nikkos wings! Avid cirrus owner and KZbinr. Just took delivery on a new one! Business owner and he uses his for both business and pleasure.

[@ilyakipnis3254]

Im a Airline pilot now but flew many GA aircraft all over the country. GTN750 is much more user friendly than the G430s . I think also the G500 would be nice but also look into the Garmin G5 units for now, they are lower cost, and give a modern touch to the panel. Enjoy the Cirrus, definitely a great airplane!

[@AutomotiveTherapy]

Big moves man congrats! -Michael from Silverthorne Colorado

[@zacharynorman397]

Hey guys, another Cirrus pilot here. I think it is a great plane to train in. The Garmin 430s you have are ok, but have some annoyances, especially in the IFR world. The GTN 750 is a fabulous upgrade to get.

[@VentiTimes]

I really like the way you guys do your content! Looking forward to the amazing content coming up!! Been a HR Garage from when you took the Ferrari to High School

[@bennyboy6069]

So hype for the content that’s to come on this channel

[@CodedCOD]

Gonna love this side of your channel

[@anrew1000]

With every KZbin video I watch I want to get my certificate more and more 😂 So glad I stumbled across your guys channel!! Currently researching flight schools here and how to get started! Good for you guys living your dreams out at such a young age!! Most people live a lifetime and never Pursue or invest enough time into finding their passion! Once again, thank you for sharing your guys journey! I’m looking forward to seeing what comes next!

[@gazzpazzer]

I bought a new SR20 and took delivery in Dec. 2005. I loved that plane. I did my transition training in Duluth, just after Angelina Jolie did hers.

[@AndresGarcia-wj3dl]

Regarding the jpi engine monitor, you're better off going with a G500TXI and using the TXI EIS system which incorporates the engine indications into the pfd. Way more streamlined than have a separate jpi and it's lighter too.

[@BoahNote]

Not normally a plane person but this is awesome!

[@nickdelatorre7037]

Nice Vid!!!! Gonna start training in college on the sr20 this fall!

[@ivankuznetsov9342]

Hey guys. I rent a G1 SR20 myself. For me it all comes done to CAPS. The unique fact of having an OPTION in a single-engine airplane, should the engine quit in real IMC or flying night. And in your case, bying an airplane, I am pretty sure it is the best value just over 100k can get you.

[@Doggepe]

About the wrap! I think the Cirrus wings are quite sensitive due to them being made of composite. Sticking something on there will create a different kind of heat when the sun is on it. Can't really explain but this is what we have been told by our instructors but be sure to ask someone who knows more about the Cirrus specifically

[@erinchillmusic8930]

Cirrus Sr20 is a wonderful airplane for its mission BUT it is not a good trainer, here's why: try hitting one thousand foot markers engine out scenario for commercial checkride, if you're off by a few knots on your short final speed you will easily float a thousand feet past your markers and that's a fail on your checkride. I love the design of Curris though! Brilliant machine for it's mission (point A to point B). Absolutely brilliant!

[@pr3ttyboyfloyd]

Done brotha I dont win stuff at all. I'm just happy to support you guys. Love the channel both of them.

[@TIO540S1]

Yeah, a former business partner of mine bought an SR22, I had a Piper Saratoga. I told him that it was a mistake, chicks don't dig fixed gear. I took the steam gauges out of Saratoga and put in a G600Txi along with some other upgrade (ADSB for example). It ran about $70K. I sold the airplane last March, a year and a half after the installation. I don't know exactly how much less I'd have had to sell it for or how much longer it would have taken to sell it but I do know lots less and lots longer.

[@racersadvantagercboats8203]

Love the content with the new plane. Great blend of channels with JR aviation and JR garage. Any timeline on when you 2 will get your private pilot certifications?

[@michaell9811]

I'd put in a Garmin G600 Txi touchscreen. You can get it to display engine information so you would not need a separate engine monitor. Also two new Garmin GTN 650's to replace the 430's, and a two USB power ports if you don't have them already.

[@theduckrunner5164]

Congrats on your purchase - I think if it were me, I would have gone with a C-182 because you just can't go wrong with a 182 !! 1st of all, the C-182 is all metal which is much easier to detect defects and repair. Yes composites are very strong and don't corrode, but they can delaminate and you would never know it - like some of the older A-319 vertical stab spars. I worked at a VIP large airliner FBO and once on a A319 we did this inspection where you had to get a core sample from the composite vertical stab spar and send it to a lab. If the lab results were bad, you'd trash the entire vertical. This particular aircraft the results were good and then we had our best composite guy fill the core sample with some special composite resign. I'll be honest, I'm still a little standoffish with composites although I'll get in a composite sailplane and not blink an eye however in the case of the sailplane you're talking a lightly loaded wing with insane glide ratios. But you do have a parachute on your 17 yr old SR 20 and hope to God you never have to use it. In the case of the 182, you can have a STOL mod done which gets the stall speed extremely low. If you're flying VFR try to plan your route where you pass by airports, golf courses, and lakes so if you have to go down you have an out. With lakes the idea being in an eng out, set er on the beach or in the water as close to the shore as possible. Hitting trees or buildings or power lines head on is not a good thing. The 182 is nothing to sneeze at - it's got amazing range, decent speed, great payload, and it's relatively forgiving. Because when you compare the 182 to a Cirrus, you're STILL buying 100LL or 100 no lead aviation gas. Now the Bye Electric aircraft {if they ever build them} changes the game - IF YOU COMPARE NEW TO NEW - so a new 182 is a half mill and the Bye electric 4 seat will be point 35 mill. Then the operating costs will be light years less than the 182 and that will start to make sense. HOWEVER, point 35 mill is still a ton of dough, and if you got say 125K, that will buy a darn nice used 182 which leaves you point 225 mill saved. Point 225 mill buys a whole lot of 100LL/100NL as well as eng overhauls and the maint is totally predictable. If I were that Bye guy, I would market an electric conversion kit for the C172 & 182 because the price of the new electric is still way too high and I just don't think they will sell as many as they think. My dream is to get a 182 for charter ops and maybe a dirt cheap 172 to test out an idea I have for an inexpensive hybrid drive where auto gas would be no problem to use. The idea being the electric motor is the primary drive anyways and the ICE augments the power to the prop as well as recharges the batteries JUST LIKE IN MY TOYOTA CAMRY HYBRID CAR !!! Talk to you guys later - PS - do a video on your status with the Electric Bye Flyer !!! Thanks the Garden Runner.

[@JRAviation]

Thank you for that comment. 182 is definitely an awesome plane!!

[@theduckrunner5164]

@@JRAviation I'm sorry it was so long, but I just wanted to make some points with sound reasoning to back it up.

[@taylorluc43]

I'm excited to see some great content with this.

[@warrenhallum6201]

I’m currently training in the diamond da20 and I love it. Highly recommend upgrading to a garmin. The 6 pack definitely will help you be one a good pilot tho.

[@AIRSOFTdude2284]

Hey boys! I’m a private pilot with just a little over 120 hours. I love aviation and continuously learning everyday. I’m currently active duty Airforce and unfortunately that has limited the time I can spend flying. Anyways, it’d be awesome to Rip the Cirrus in Arizona. Cheers🤙🏻

[@davewillis6947]

Ok guys if your listening, my name is Dave Willis and I’m the D in Delta Tango (Tony) Aviation. We flew 143RJ from Glendale to St. Louis KCPS, equaling your 1000 mile flight to Phoenix. We had no real issues on the flight home, oil ran a bit hot in the climb but cooled quickly at cruise. We have updated the databases for both Garmin units and the Avidyne Entegra. Currently the oil is being changed from Mineral to ash less detergent oil. Did you guys ever get your pilots license?

[@davidbartch8917]

Having to get Owen was a good thing Great video!

[@stevenpdxedu]

For useful load, max flying endurance at all altitudes, and bang for the buck I don't think you could have made a better choice. Durable airframe, safe, fuel efficient and well equipped. If you've got the bucks for a GA plane that's the one I'd go with. Uh, think I skip the wrap though. Thanks for the fun.

[@matthewpolitis5119]

at 10:40 when you said bells and whistles, i straight away went to thinking you were gonna say to subscribe and hit the bell and ya didn't hahahaha... I did it anyway hahahaha

[@FadeArmani]

That's very good for you and congratulations.

[@tpsu129]

I'm looking at a 2002 SR-20. The panels looks the same as yours. I would not rip out the gauges. I like the hybrid look.

[@ORINP76]

Congratulations 🍾🎉🎈

[@andrebonitto5690]

Safe travels gentlemen!

[@supritacharya]

I think this was a great decision, my local aviation college which is top 3 in the U.S uses similar if not the same aircraft for training.

[@cmtetaboaco]

Just add a Avidyne PFD like newer Cirrus have and you can app cards to the MFD to include a moving map, don’t need fancy instruments with touchscreen and stuff!

[@anthonydowling8316]

Using a Cirrus as a primary trainer is like buying Rolex alarm clock. Add up insurance, maintenance and the chute repack bill.

[@H-Zazoo]

Like how one of the compelling reasons to buy is that the doors match the McLaren. 😀

[@mohammedzakwan3638]

Keep it going guyz

[@keithcarlton2054]

I’m an avid pilot and study at GCU so maybe I will see you guys flying around the valley. Also, probably don’t wanna have your seatbelt off on camera... not saying it never happens but best not to flaunt it to the FAA my man

[@ictpilot]

Keith, he still had his lap belt on.

[@landsharkbuckaroo3429]

Keep making content on this channel it’s awesome, so keep updates going

[@JRAviation]

Thank you!

[@ChrisJones-yt8zp]

That's a beautiful plane.

[@andenw2408]

Can’t wait till you guys get your license

[@aidanperry910]

Love your videos and subscribe to all your channels plus Instagram and like

[@bobhittenberger8473]

Loved the videos as I live in Scottsdale and am looking to purchase a Cirrus in the next 12 months. I'm doing my homework and am a little concerned with 200hp engine in the summer time. The mountain flying in the summer heat could be a problem. What are your thoughts?

[@christopheradam4256]

Hey guys love your new plane and I love all your content... I'm a huge fan and car lover I live in Glendale right next door to you guys I would love an opportunity to meet you guys?! Keep up the awesome work😎

[@bret3039]

I fly out of KSDL. Not a Cirrus owner, but I rent quite a bit. I’ll keep an eye out for you guys! 👍

[@Antonio_Talavera]

JRgarage be like “we wrapped a PLANE!” 😂😂😂 yall are awesome

[@frederickhalljr8947]

Hey, you guys did a good job on getting that plane. Always wanted to fly myself. Maybe

[@smokeydan1]

Did you ever consider a Columbia 300, 350 or 400 (now the Cessna Corvalis)? My father ran a dealership in the southern US from the time the aircraft was certified until the parent company Lancair sold the line to Cessna. Have flown dozens of them as well as the Cirrus. Found the Columbia to be a bit more comfortable.

[@Airplanefish]

Downside to the Columbia.....no longer made, no factory support, less cabin room, not as "user" friendly to work on, ect....

[@TheHuff73]

really good decision thumbs up..

[@kasiabasinska6233]

I'm a huge fan! I wasn't a pilot though, but keep It up!

[@darthmoomoo]

How much did the airplane cost? Where can I do some research about the tradeoffs between the different generations?

[@michaelstern1945]

New to your channel and how can you go wrong with sjcspotter on board I have been following him for a while wishing you success with your new Cirrus.

[@ラトパック]

Nice plane better then nothing im from yuma Arizona so not to far keep up the glad to have you in Arizona 😃

[@nobaddaystravel6855]

Winkler county is home of Kermit, Texas!! I’m from Midland, county originally which is about an hour drive from that airport. Hoping to to start flight training soon if all my medical issues are cleared by my specialty doctors.

[@255-southcarolina8]

Still think you should of went for a vision jet sell some Of those cars

[@Jessie20032]

Awesome hope you get your pilots licence soon 😁

[@justinmccord291]

Awesome video. Sounds like Christian really did his homework.

[@JRAviation]

Yes, he researched for months!

[@quintinbray955]

That’s a good aircraft to learn on.

[@KyleClerico]

Just found you guys and subscribed. Really excited for the electric airplane, I've always wanted to be able to fly for so cheap. I know a SR22T owner and have spent some time in the copilot's seat. Do you guys have oxygen in yours?

[@cmtetaboaco]

What about tha Vans RV10? Or even a RV7, you can also learn how to acro! And the 7 performance surpasses the SR22 with the SR20 engine

[@moseskelly2886]

I'm really excited to see a part 2 Jeffrey and Christian!!! Tell Owen hi for me!! I am looking forward to seeing this extraordinary experience. It actually makes perfect sense why you both purchased the Cirrus SR-20. You both should launch JR Aviation merchandise.

[@tomdavison9107]

Most of the Cirrus that I have seen have a three bladed prop.

[@mattyflying5483]

Hey Guys! Wow. This is my dream private plane. I'm on my 21'hour in flying, to get my PPL. Please keep making these videos, they are really amazing. When do you think you will be done with your licence? Please, if possible, record your flightlesson and upload it to your channel. That would be awesome! :D Cheers, Matias.

[@PRGanapathy]

If you don't spend the money on repacking the parachute, does the aircraft lose its airworthiness certificate? Can you just tag it "inop" and continue to operate it like any other non-BRS aircraft?

[@jaedanatchley]

I’d love to go for a ride! My best friend who I sadly lost a few years back always wanted him and I to be pilots but as the years have progressed I cannot bring myself to learn to fly but I would love to go for a ride.

[@Devoh915]

Shoutout to El paso💙 my hometown

[@Nbolanos0624]

Check out Nexair avionics in Plymouth Massachusetts. They have done some amazing upgrades in Cirrus planes before. Ask for Brian.

[@motorwouter]

Beautiful plane 👍

[@255-southcarolina8]

Owen I seen your video With Matt Awesome Alaska's beautiful

[@255-southcarolina8]

Owen get them private jets buddy you'll make some money

[@alpcamalan]

Everything is worth for that sight

[@gaylonwimsatt1630]

Done. Love it.

[@ColinMartinSoccer]

What kind chartering service do u guys use?

[@richardpena3944]

Hey boys ive been flying since im 16 im 35 now grew up in a moonie but now fly a kinda special plane called a lake buckaneer its an boat bottom plane. I fly out of city island in the bronx ny. Please look it up and feel free to come hang and fly a few days !

[@jackvu.hustle]

It's so awesome.

[@landsharkbuckaroo3429]

@jr aviation you guys should collab with Matt Guthmiller he would teach you a lot